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The beef between Cam Newton and Cameron Jordan is a long-standing rivalry in the NFC South, while the ACC football conference is gearing up for a new season with teams like Miami and Virginia Tech looking to make a comeback. PK Subban's entertaining play-by-play commentary of his dogs eating has gone viral, and David Tepper's confidence and success have earned him a man crush from fans. The Charlotte sports scene is also buzzing with the potential for an MLS franchise to be awarded to the city.

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It's brilliant. Ham Newton's Arch Nemesis. was talking. and saying something nice about Cam yesterday. Panthers fans hate the Saints.

And specifically, defensive end Cameron Jordan, who has trash-talked Cam Newton on and off the field for years. Yeah, I was surprised to see Colin Cowherd inviting Cam Jordan in studio, and Jordan complimenting Carolina Cam. I don't really know how to feel about this. I've been emotionally detached from the Panthers for years now. I don't consider myself a fan like I did when I was a teenager and even younger than that.

But I'm all about beefs and sports and rivalries and sports. This kind of feels like How it would if you saw in the nineties One of the best good guys in wrestling. Maybe Dez can. Fill me in on who that might be in the 90s. Going out to dinner outside the ring with somebody in WO.

That's what it would be like, see him one of the good guys in wrestling. Hanging out with the heels. Sting eating dinner with Hollywood Hulk Hogan in 1997. Yeah. You don't want to see.

The bad guy saying good things. About the good guy? You kind of want to perpetuate this rivalry. The Cam Newton, Cam Jordan Beef is great for the NFC South. It's great for the Panthers Saints rivalry because both guys are very similar.

They're both flashy. They're both flamboyant. They both like to talk. They were both drafted in the same year. They were both first round draft picks.

They're in the same division. Both are all-pro players. They're both named Cam! It's kind of like the dark night. Remember when Batman was holding Heath Ledger's Joker over the edge, and he kept saying.

Me and you should get together. We're actually the same. We complete each other. You complete me. We're the same person to them.

We're both freaks. That's KM Jordan. and Cam Newton. But if you missed the comment on Fox Sports Radio. Miss the comment on Colin Cowherd.

This is Cam Jordan. Talking about Cam Newton yesterday. Having our division, you face Matt Ryan. You know, as soon as you get a hold of him, you know he's going down. You know, it's not like he can just sort of shrug you off.

I mean, that can't happen. You get a hold of Cam Newton, he can shrug you off, he can outrun you, he can then, as he's falling, sling a 60-yard accurate ball. I mean, he's probably the greatest. Sack, you're going to try and get after just because he's strong as Ben Rothesberger. He's got accuracy like any other top-tier quarterback.

And then, of course, he can outrun you. More than Russell Wilson can. I agree with a lot what he's saying there, but. There's just one spot that's just utterly false. Cam Newton is not as accurate as top-tier quarterbacks.

I don't want to parse things, but come on. Cam Newton's not Aaron Rodgers, he's never been. And that's fine. He's probably going to be a Hall of Fame quarterback, but let's not make him out to be Brady. In terms of his accuracy, running, that all checks out.

Big Ben like size, that checks out. Hard to bring down? I get that too. But this is a change of tone from Cameron Jordan. who was dressed like a Disney villain.

The last time I saw him, it was Monday night football. The Panthers lost a tight game to the Saints in December. It was the last game Cam Newton played last year. And It was the game Cam wore. In pregame.

The the sneakers or the Clates that had a broken broomstick. And a wine bottle on it. Cam Jordan, after the Saints beat the Panthers not twice, but three times in 2017. set a wine bottle, Takam Thanking him. for allowing the saints to sweep them.

Pretty Snarky stuff there. That's trash talk at its finest. But apparently, someone else sent him a broom, and he wanted to make it clear: this is in the Saints' locker room, that. He didn't send the broom. And he's looking like a Disney villain, like I mentioned.

He has a burgundy. Long winter jacket. He has What do we call these spectacles? The ones that open the frames. The Dwayne Wayne glasses.

The Dwayne Wayne glasses. Yeah, from a different world. Probably the best way to put it. That's what he's wearing with the frames open. And as he was talking about Facing Cam, denying the rumors that he sent a broomstick to Charlotte and to Cam.

He Questioned. Whether or not Cam was injured. Remember, this was the last game Cam played last year with the shoulder injury. Yeah, he doesn't talk back with back to me. He just gets back in the huddle.

He'll get up slowly, and he did the air quotes. With his shoulder injury. And I had to jump in after that. I asked him. Are you saying?

What's up with the air quotes? Are you saying? Cam Newton isn't actually injured with the shoulder. This was Cam Jordan's response. He shook, I don't know.

You say shoulder problems, this man, I grabbed this man. I'd like to say by the shoulder. And he shook me off. I'm just overly irritated. That's him denying that Cam Newton's hurt.

And the air quotes. I'm surprised. There are a lot of things I get out of the locker room.

Sound I get in press conferences, questions I ask that lead to interesting responses that get picked up, and you know it's going to be a big deal immediately. Like when Coach Kay. Started asking me to come up with a new basketball terminology that's going to follow Zion Williamson the rest of his career. Dabo Sweeney. Saying that It was a troll.

When he had The play card with the laptop on it. When they beat NC State last year. Cam Newton talking about that drip. Owner David Tepper wearing the hat. Before I asked him about that, This was one I thought was going to explode and no one seemed to care.

This beef here, it's real. Cam Jordan and Cam Newton, and it's dated. Or I should say It's storied. Since twenty eleven. Cameron Jordan was one of the first players to make fun of Cam Newton's dabbing.

And his dancing and his celebrating and his outfits and his hats. Then you have the broomstick rumors. Him sending the wine bottle. Those comments you just heard, him denying the fact That Cam Newton was injured. And now he's coming out saying nice things about Cam?

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The only position groups that would make a beef better. Then a quarterback going up against a defensive lineman. Probably wide receiver corner. Those two racing upfield. Jumping up for a 50-50 ball, or even though they don't face each other.

Face to face on the field, quarterback to quarterback. Those are the biggest names in the sports. In the sport. They're the biggest stars. In the sport, if you have a beef between two quarterbacks, Woof!

That's going to be a media circus. Have we seen many of those? I was just about to ask you that. Face between quarterbacks? It's usually like a quarterback and like a something, yeah.

We like to perpetuate Aaron Rodgers going up against Brett Favre the first couple of times when Favre was in the division playing for the Vikings after leaving Green Bay. Brady versus the Manning Brothers. That. Was pushed quite a bit, but it seems like Peyton and Tom are actually friends. Yeah, yeah, it does seem that way.

I don't know if you guys can. I don't know about Eli. Yeah, I don't know about Eli. Eli took two rings off Brady. I don't know how close.

Those two are. Yeah, normally it's like on a football field. You're right. It's usually wide receiver, defensive, back, because they're both on an island by themselves, and it's really the only one-on-one matchup you have in football.

So. I I immediately think of Deion Sanders versus Jerry Rice, Deion versus Michael Irvin, all of those classic Reevas versus receivers in the AFC East.

So, I mean, it it's usually that more often than not, right? It is. But there just haven't been as many great beefs. Between these position groups. At least, not to the degree we're seeing even in the NFC South with Cam Newton and Cameron Jordan dating back to 2011.

These two guys being very similar. Oh. We've got the Bachelorette minute today. Last night might have been the most dramatic piece of television I've seen in a long time. I was yelling at the screen desk.

Just yelling. At what was going on. It was Fantasy Suite Week. Are you familiar with what the Fantasy Suites are? I kind of have an idea of the concept of what's about to happen.

Final three, Final Four. Contestants in either the Bachelorette or Bachelor. They get to spend a night together for the first time without any cameras. or recorders. No microphones.

So obviously, you can imagine what goes on. Behind the scenes. But It's network television, so they're pretty discreet about it. It always presents one of the best hypothetical questions you can have, as every man as it gets on TV. If you are someone who's in this circumstance.

You're competing to be the uh to win the Bachelor or the Bachelorette. And you know There's two, or maybe three, other guys or girls who are going to be going into this suite with the person you're pursuing. Do you want to go first, second, third or fourth? Really, we're asking first or last, what's the best place to be in? If The understanding is Intimate moments are happening in all four instances.

Yeah, when you have that part, I think I'd rather go first. But if you're trying to win the game, you want to leave the lasting impression, yes? But if you're you don't want to be forgotten about after the first one. But if you're really good or extremely confident in what you do, then she's going to be thinking about you throughout the rest of the guys coming in there. I don't think it is.

A cleanliness concern. I don't think. I think that's just. I don't think it is. We really hope not.

You really hope not. That'd be a stain on the show for sure. Literally.

So, you want to go first? I probably want to go last if I'm wanting the win. To be more competitive. I'm a competitor. I want to win.

I mean, if you go last, you're literally competing with the last three hours or however long she gets with each one before you walk in the door. I would think it's an advantage to go first and make a great impression, right? It was so much drama. Mm. Fascinating stuff.

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Now back to the drive with Josh Graham. A quick reminder that we're going to be broadcasting live. From Charlotte tomorrow and Thursday, it's crazy to thank ACC kick off. The ACC football media days have already arrived. We're going to be speaking with Dave Doran, Dave Claussen.

New North Carolina coach Mac Brown, Manny Diaz, the new head coach at Miami, and many others over the next few days.

So be sure to be listening as you are right now. On the Triad Sports of ESPN's Roy Philpott.

Now, with us from ESPN and college football, play-by-play man has been covering all things ACC for a very long time now. It's crazy that we've arrived at this time where we're already getting set to do preseason polls and talking about. Football again. I like it, but it's just crazy to think we've arrived here, Roy. No, it's good.

It's good. It's that time of year, and you mentioned a couple of names there that immediately sparked my interest, especially Mac Brown. What a great job he's doing in North Carolina. Recruiting. I spoke to somebody at ESPN about two or three weeks ago that knows Mac really well, and they were just so amazed by his endless energy.

and just how he has attacked this job at North Carolina. And he hired such a great staff. I am so curious to hear and see what he does there in year one. And I'm going to tell you right out of the gate, Josh. upsettler week one, North Carolina is going to have an opportunity the Tar Heels will have a chance Against South Carolina in Charlotte.

And I really expect that game could be a barn burner. It's going to be a lot of fun to see what happens there. Whether it's because of his age or the fact he's been out of college football for five years now, do you think that Mac Brown is flying under the radar? Because after all, he's one of five or six coaches in college football active who have won a national championship. I think every coach in the Coastal Division is under the radar because everybody poor mouth that division.

As being one of the worst in college football. And I think we're going to all find out that it's not by the end of the year. That's going to be something to watch as we go through this season to see who emerges. From those that that the pack of teams And I think North Carolina has got a good chance to do it. But look, they lost a ton of close games last year.

One of the games I called at Keenan Stadium against Virginia Tech, they were going in for a two score advantage. with about Three minutes left. The guy fumbles with the goal lines. Virginia Tech takes it the full length of the field on the ensuing drive, and they stole one at the end. That happened like four or five different games for North Carolina.

So if there's a team. that is ready to emerge that nobody is anticipating. You got Mac Brown, you got a great staff, you got new energy, they're recruiting well, and they do have some talent.

So that's a team to watch, and yeah, I think they're totally under the radar right now. Here's the complete list of active head coaches in college football who have won a national championship. Of course, Dabo Sweeney, who won his second earlier this year with the Tigers, Nick Sabin, Jimbo Fisher at Florida State, who's now at Texas AM, Les Miles, who's back in college football with Kansas, and Mac Brown.

Now that Urban Meyers out of college football, that's the list. Five coaches who have won national championships among active coaches. Coaches. Another coach in the coastal who's going to be stepping in is Mandy Diaz, who takes over for Mark Rick. And you have Virginia Tech, Miami, and Florida State all having down years last year.

So I'm interested in your mind: who do you view as, who do you trust most to bounce back this fall out of those three schools? Miami, because I like their schedule. Manny Diaz, I remember when he was the safeties coach at NC State back in the day, got to know him a little bit. And he has really, I think, sparked new life into that program. It's amazing how quickly Miami turned things around after winning the Coastal Division and last year they just were lifeless.

That's not going to be an issue this season. He also is recruiting, I think, at a very high level down at the U. And Miami is the team that has the athletes, and it's easy to say because everybody always says it, but Just go back and watch and what they've done the last two years into fatality. And the division overall in the coastal, I think it's there for the taking for a UNC or for a Miami to make a significant run. But Zenotech, I just don't know if the skill position players are there.

And I like Dustin Puente. I think he's a great fit in Blacksburg, but Something just appears to be missing right now, and I don't know that they've had the true answer they've needed. At quarterback.

So I'm not believing in the hokies, but Miami is the team with the talent. North Carolina with all the close losses. Those are the two in that division that I think could sneak up and surprise the people. Listen, Miami maybe picked as the favorite. I don't know who the media is going to pick in the coastal division as the favorite this week.

But it it may be the hurricane, so maybe it's just silly to think that they're under the radar, they're going to surprise when they're the team that everybody's going to pick to win the division. I probably think Virginia Tech, it's either Virginia Tech or Miami, only because, even though the schedule is a little bit more difficult with Virginia Tech, I think Justin Fuente is the most proven coach out of Willie Taggart and Miannie Diaz. And last year, it just seems like an aberration when you consider it's the first losing year since the George H.W. Bush administration for the Hokies, and they returned just three starters on defense a year ago, and they also had all those injuries and eligibilities and dismissals, and an injured quarterback to boot. That just seems like to me, since Justin Fuente.

Brought the Hokies to an ACC championship game in his first year. That seems the most like an aberration out of the three. Yeah, maybe. I mean, maybe. And I again, I think he's the perfect fit there.

Bud Foster is doing his thing. And the times that I had him last year, I always walked away from the coaches' meetings. very impressed and you know somebody's going to come out of that division that we're not seeing And like you said, you know, there's there's there's going to be somebody that bounces back. I I'm going to lean on the U. I'm going to lead on that team speed.

They've got a couple of options, a quarterback and For some reason, I just think Manny Diaz was the perfect fit down there at the right time. And I think it was good for Mark Rick to step away and You know, we'll see him on the ATC network this fall, so that's not a bad thing either. ESPN's Roy Philpot with us here on Twitter at Roy Philpott. While we were talking about Mac Brown, somebody brought it up to me last week saying, you know, Mac Brown is now the second most. Prominent coach.

in this conference now, when you consider Mark Richt and Paul Johnson both retiring after last year.

Now that they're both out of the conference, would you go as far to say Mac Brown's the next best head coach, if not who?

Well, that's other than Davo Sweet. I mean, I you know, the job Dean O Babers has done at Syracuse, I mean, Mac, I think the energy's there, the recruiting's been there. He's kind of partying like it's 1997 in Chapel Hill right now, which is great. But hey, Dino Papers and the job he's done. I mean, look at what he's done against Clemson the last two seasons, including a win.

He's been one of the few coaches To be able to beat Davo.

So I I would I would go with Syracuse. They're a team that always seems to be kind of under the radar and Dino Vapors. They've done a good job keeping him there, given the considerable work that he's done in rebuilding that program. Yeah, after this season it may be Mac or or Justin or somebody. But right now, I think it's a bit of a slight to ignore the job that Dino Babers has done at Syracuse.

Everybody knows him. And it's familiar with that program, is just enamored with his ability and his personality, his charisma. And then you know what? He knows how to scheme you. He he knows how to scheme you.

He's a brilliant offensive mind and I think that really has voted very well for Syracuse since he's arrived a couple of years ago. In terms of broadcasters both on television and radio, you've been pretty close to Clemson's football program in the past and saw up close what Dabbo Sweeney has done to build it into the juggernaut it is now. Do you buy the notion that Clemson's level of dominance, this gap that exists between Clemson and whoever you perceive to be the second best program right now, that that's bad for the ACC? I yeah, I it's you know, somebody it it's weird because you can go back just two years. And the ACC, you could make a legitimate argument, was the best football conference in college football.

When Florida State was still in the top ten, the year Lamar Jackson won the Heisman Trophy. I think you go back to twenty sixteen, just around there, that the ACC rivals were beating the SEC rivals. Clemson was ascending.

So I mean, it was just Really, two years ago or so, where it was a vastly different conversation, and there were three legitimate top 10 teams, and now There's Clemson. And really, everybody else, and you're looking at Syracuse, or maybe an NC State crawling in the back end of the top twenty-five or top thirteen in the country. Florida State is way down. Louisville is way down right now. That no, that's it's not good for the league.

It's not good for the depth of the conference. I will say this. I think by the end of the year, the ACC is not going to be the worst power five league in the country. I think that's going to belong to the Big twelve or the Pac twelve.

So the ACC I think should be better than what people are thinking. But Josh, somebody else has to emerge as a semi contender for top ten status. in order to kind of reclaim Just the brief glory this league had in totality a couple of years ago when Louisville, Florida State, Clemson were all there. Knocking on the door of the top ten and the top five in the country. And it can happen.

I think there have been some good coaching hires. And it's it's all cyclical to a certain extent. But yeah, right now it it is Clemson and everybody else and that gap. even if the Tigers are played close By a team in league play this year is still. I mean, it's significant at the line of scrimmage, at quarterback, at running back, You know, from my vantage point, I don't think it's close right now.

We'll see who can recruit up the fastest between Miami, North Carolina, and maybe somebody else to try to contend for that elite status in the conference. I hold two truths with it, Roy. Number one, what you're saying, I agree with all of it. I don't think the gap's ever been this big between in the ACC since it expanded to 12 in 2005, between the top team and whoever is second. But the second thing is this, and this is what gets overlooked, I think.

I think the middle of the ACC has gotten a lot better in the last few years. The very top has not, and there's been separation with Clemson. But I can't think of more than two bad teams in the ACC right now. I look at, I mean, Georgia Tech, it's going to be a haul for Jeff Collins to go in from Temple and try to coach a team that's been coached for the triple option with Paul Johnson leaving. And Louisville, that's a rebuilding job for Scott Satterfield from here in Appalachian State.

But aside from that, like you mentioned, UNC, the energy Mac Browns brought in his pedigree. Pittsburgh going to the coastal championship game last year. Virginia bringing back Bryce Perkins and Bryce Hall. Miami getting Manny Diaz with that defense last year. Syracuse with Dino Babers.

Wake Forrest, three consecutive bull wins. And they finished sixth in the ACC Atlantic last year. It does seem like to me, while Clemson is really. Building a gap between themselves and whoever's is second, that the middle of this conference is getting better, Roy. I mean, I'll give you that.

And Virginia with Perkins returning, he is a total under the radar player. That program is massively under the radar despite shutting out South Carolina. uh in the belt bowl last year i does some depth in terms of Mediocre to slightly above average programs. You know as well as I do, that's not how we measure. conferences.

Yeah, Bronco Men and Hall's turned things around in Virginia. Dino Papers has done it at Syracuse. Dave Doran, they're going to win eight or nine games, it feels like, every year and challenge somebody before falling just short of the mark. There is some of that, but but two of those teams at least need to take it to the next level. to kind of get it to where it needs to be, to where it should be.

And Yeah, I think the ACC network launch on august twenty second. I think that's going to help things along and some of the coaching hires that were just made will as well. But Yeah, it may take a zero tail. Or maybe longer to kind of get back to where the league was just two or three seasons ago, like we just spoke about. I hear you.

Hashtag we do this. Roy, when's the next time we're going to see you? Do you already have a TV schedule yet or not so much? I don't. We know our crew.

That was announced yesterday. I don't know where I'm going first, but. You're kinda checking email every two and a half minutes this time of year. You know, when that's coming in, but I can't wait for it. It's going to be a ton of fun.

Roy, enjoy your summer. Thanks for doing this. Yeah, you got it, Josh. Thanks. That's Roy Philpot on Twitter at Roy Philpot, E-S-B-N.

And he's making it sound like there. Maybe the ACC network, we might see some really Philpot, which I'm all about. one of the finest play-by-play men E uh ESPN has over there. Up next. Why are the Carolina Panthers bound to become the biggest story in sports in the next week?

Keep it here on the drive. The champ is here! This is the Sports Hub at AM 600, AM 920.

Now back to the drive with Josh Graham. See, Desmond Johnson picks the music on this show, and I don't even think Dez realizes. That this song choice really fires me up. While it is a great song in the North Carolina classic Wagon Wheel, When I think of this song, I don't go to the Darius Rucker version. It's always Old Pro Medicine Show I play first.

Jim Zoki is someone who's been around in North Carolina for a very long time. I'm not sure what type of music he might be into from the Panthers Radio Network, but Wagon Wheel, are you a fan, Jim Zoki? Yeah, I am a a country music fan, Josh, but uh wagon wheel has a high burn factor with me. I've just heard it too many millions of times. But when you think about it, Old Crow Medicine Show or Darius Rucker?

Darius Roker, because I just that's the one I hear all the time, but I need to hear the original more, definitely. All right. And another thing we need to keep an eye on is what's happening later this week with the Panthers Amazon all or nothing series launching. I'm already seeing some local media getting a chance to watch it and talking about what's happening in this series. Other than looking for yourself maybe at times on the periphery, what do you intend to keep an eye on most when you watch it?

Yeah, I'm sure the fans are looking for me and Mick and the usual suspects, but they might also want to see what Cam Newton And Christian McCaffrey and some of those guys too. I just uh some of the clips I've seen, I just love. the uh just the cutting up. Christy McCaffrey telling a joke. Greg Olson explaining Hamilton to his teammates on the bench at a practice, and Ryan Khalil.

Yacking it up with McCaffrey about being a fast white guy. I mean, I just uh It's just there's a lot of camaraderie on these teams every year. And guys like Ryan Khalil, some others have passed through that are not on the team this upcoming season.

So it'll be fun to look back. And it was some of the cameras all around last year. They were at everything, obviously, and a lot of stuff we never saw.

So I think it'd be just kind of that whole behind the scenes Kind of fun, you know, everything from football to watching film with Luke Keekly to them just cutting up. That'll be great fun to see all that. How often were the cameras around, Jim? All the time. I mean, truly, we, you know, being on the radio network, are able to go to practice and then.

We'd see them out there, and then we'd see them at the press conferences, which everyone is media-wise invited to. But they have full access to just meeting rooms and They went to Greg Olson's kids' little league baseball practice that he's coaching and things like that.

So we saw them, I would say, almost everywhere that we were going. And they were obviously in a lot of places that we never went.

So it'll be a total Alexis. Being in the locker room for home games the last couple of years, I started to think about with this series stuff like this and hard knocks, it really introduces you to the players on a personal level. And you start noting Greg Olson trying to introduce his teammates to Hamilton, among other things, Christian McCaffrey telling jokes. I remember with the Falcons a few years ago, Brian Cox Jr., he was the standout star in the hard knocks, and it's very rare you'd see a defensive line coach really stick out, but in a show like that, it really can happen.

So I started thinking about for Panthers who might be a standout personality among The players that you wouldn't consider, like a Cam Newton or a Greg Olson or a Christian McCaffrey, just given that criteria, guys who might be a backup or a lineman, whose personality do you think can really shine in the setting of this Amazon show? Yeah, somebody like Dante Jackson's got a big personality, the rookie cornerback from last year. Again, we'll see how much. Is actually put into these eight episodes that is actually used and what doesn't make it. But he's something that immediately comes to mind.

He's got a lot of swagger, and I get to see him having a lot of commentary there. There's always this winning thing between Thomas Davis and Cam Newton and practices. It'll be interesting to see how much of that makes its way onto that. They kind of had this personal one-on-one offensive versus defensive battle that was going out there at all times, which was kind of reminiscent of when Steve Smith was here. I mean, the practices were intense a lot of times, and there's a competition that spills over from training camp into the weekly Wednesday, Thursday press conference, practices, I should say.

So again, TD, obviously, with the Chargers now, but just seeing stuff like that will be fun. Jim Zoki is with us from the Panthers Radio Network on Twitter at Jim Zoki. I'm interested in this beef that seems to exist between a couple of Cams in the NFC South, where you have Cam Newton, of course, drafted in 2011, but later in that first round, the Saints selected Cameron Jordan. And it seems like these two are both very similar in that. They're both flashy, they're both flamboyant, they're both talkative, they're both drafted the same year, they're in the same division, and they're both named Cam.

But back and forth, you see Cameron Jordan talking in the media in the past, criticizing Cam for the dancing and the dabbing, and talking about the hats and picking fun at Cam and sending, I think, a bottle of wine. And he disputed sending a broom, albeit Cam got one after the Saints swept the Panthers in 2017. Yesterday he was on the radio complimenting Cam Newton, but it does seem like there was a lot of beef there is between Cam Jordan and Cam Newton. Are you pro-beef in football, Jim Zoki? Yeah, I think we need characters is what makes it interesting.

And you know, it's secondary to the game itself, but you know, the best way to win. Those arguments and to send back the bottle of wine if you wanted to send a broom would be to win. And that's your rival. I mean, that's the team you got to knock off in the NSC South based on the past couple of years is New Orleans.

So it's not bragging when you back it up, right? And that's what the Saints have done the last couple of years, and they've set the bar high in the criteria that the Panthers and Falcons and the Buccaneers for that matter are going to have to try to reach to now. Jim, you've been with the Panthers Radio Network since the first year of Carolina Panthers football. How long have you lived in Charlotte? Going back to nineteen eighty seven.

Okay, so I don't think there are many people who probably have a better pulse on the sports scene in Charlotte than you. And I wonder, when you see David Pepper. Hiring Tom Glick last year, you know that there's going to be some pursuit for soccer, and David Tepper even said it publicly. They get the meeting with the MLS, and then the MLS puts out a statement yesterday, and they included them among the teams that potentially could land an MLS franchise.

So there could be MLS soccer being played inside Bank of America Stadium. Given what you know about the Charlotte sports scene, how much demand do you think there would be for pro soccer in Charlotte? I think it'd be the perfect fit. I look at what the Raleigh area has with the Carolina hurricanes. And it would just be something that's different.

We've all grown up with football, basketball, especially here around the ACC areas like that. But this, again, millennials, generational. Uh really seemed to have uh of strong attraction to soccer, and that's why you see it's going to Austin. going to Nashville, it's going to go to probably St. Louis and probably Sacramento for that matter.

uh Miami.

So there's basically you're buying for one. And I think for the Charlotte area, I mean, because there's been such a rich history of Collegiate soccer in this area with the ACC teams and UNC Charlotte and Davidson. There's an appetite for it. I think beyond that, Josh, there's an appetite for something new that is their own generationally for the younger folks. A lot of places like Yarlafor and Greensboro and Winston-Salem area and all that, craft beer and Soccer.

I mean, it's just a little bit different. You know, we grew up, we had court led and Miller led him past. We didn't have a lot of choices. You know, beer choices, sport choices. All those things are evolving and changing.

And I think it's something that'd be the perfect fit for this city as something to complement the Hornets and the Panthers and the Triple H Old Knights baseball team here. What do you think the most attractive element of Charlotte is if they're going up against Las Vegas, which is according to some of the reports out there? If it is a 30th spot, it might be Charlotte versus Vegas. Is it the owner and how much he's worth in the NFL?

Somebody who is an owner there potentially being in the same room in the MLS owner room as well? Or what do you think the big point is? Yeah, I mean, you're not gonna worry about finding a Carolina with dollars and uh He's only gone up on show. You've seen what happened the way they've had at times, seventy thousand plus. Yeah, see in the Atlantic element NFL Slash soccer and the listing that can work together.

I think two This is a good ownership group that has a stadium already in place.

Some places have to. Cobble together the money. I know in Raleigh they're talking about putting something together. St. Louis is looking to build a 22,000 seat stadium.

You know, that stuff either has to be secured or it's just being talked about and dreamt about. There is a football stadium in place that could house soccer, I think, having the stadium. that's been updated year after year. I think having an owner with deep pockets and being in an attractive, growing millennial type market are all things that are factoring in a positive way for Charlotte. Jim, when you're in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

What do you do for fun? Look for shade because it's really hot, it's really humid. There's not a lot of it because it's a football field, right? There is one sign on the back side of the practice field. You enjoy that first practice that goes into the evening, the Thursday night one next week.

So you enjoy that one? Sure. And um You know, there's some great little local eateries. My favorite burger places on the planet is. Not the beacon, which is a famous one, but um Ike's corner.

So if anyone's making a trip down to Spartanburg, Ike's corner grill, I'm not a paid endorser, but Best burger I've ever had, and everyone has anything there. Nobody has disagreed with me.

So, definitely some good local eats when you go to an established town like Spartan Verdun's. It's essentially here. Camp getting set to start, and we're going to be in Charlotte broadcasting our show tomorrow and Thursday at ACC Kickoff in Charlotte. Jim, I appreciate you squeezing in some time for us. Enjoy the last couple of drops of summer.

All right, yeah, it's every bit of it, 99 degrees or something today. But, Josh, I'll see you down there. Looking forward to it. Yep, that's Jim Zoki on Twitter at Jim Zoki. from the Panthers Radio Network.

Can't believe you were playing. The Darius Rucker version of Wagon wheel. When you think Wagon Wheel. Do you think Darius Rucker old Crow Medicine Show. I don't really think either.

I mean, I know the song. It was familiar to me, but uh I'm familiar with Darius Rucker. I mean that song is a North Carolina classic. I mean I know the song. I d I don't really think about who's singing it.

I I would prefer the hootie version, so I'm gonna go Darius Rucker. Ugh. That hurts. I think there is. A parade of people, maybe a mob.

Willing to disagree with you on that. 336-777-1600. Which wagon wheel version do you prefer? Darius Rucker Old Crow Medicine Show. That's blasphemous.

The Darius Rucker version. It won a Grammy that version, which fires me up because. Again, it's a cover and the uh there's not many instances where the cover is better than the original.

Now I'll give you Whitney Houston, I'll always love you over Dolly Parton, but there aren't many examples. Where the cover is better than the original. How many people know how many people even know that that's not the original? That the Darius Rucker version is not the original version of the colour. I think a lot of people do in North Carolina.

Across the country, maybe not. Which is why it might be the more popular version. But I like to believe in North Carolina, the land of the pines. Okrow Medicine Show comes first. before Darius Rucker.

I want to believe that. That's what I want to believe.

So we mentioned the beef. Between Cam Newton and Cam Jordan. It was weird to hear him complimenting Cam Newton. Yesterday on Cowlin Cowherd. Let's hear that sound very quickly.

This is Cam Jordan. Saying a nice thing about Cam Newton, which is offsetting considering the beef and the rivalry. You know, we have in our division, you face Matt Ryan. You know, as soon as you get a hold of him, you know he's going down. You know, it's not like he can just sort of shrug you off.

I mean, that can't happen. You get a hold of Cam Newton, he can shrug you off, he can outrun you, he can then, as he's falling, sling a 60-yard accurate ball. I mean, he's probably the greatest. Sack, you're going to try and get after just because he's strong as Ben Rothesberger. He's got accuracy like any other top-tier quarterback.

And then, of course, he can outrun you. more than, you know, Russell Wilson can. Come on now. Cam Newton, he's not as accurate as any quarterback of the NFL. I don't care if you're the biggest Cam Newton fan out there.

Stop. I'll say biggest running threat, hardest quarterback to take down, Russell Wilson comparison, Ben Rothelsberger comparison. Great. He ain't Brady. Cam Newton isn't as accurate as Aaron Rodgers.

He's not as accurate even as Matt Ryan.

So get out of here with that nonsense. It's just weird to hear Cam Jordan saying nice things about Cam Newton. It's a little offsetting. It's almost like If the iron sheik was saying Friendly things about Hulk Hogan. Right?

You would just be skeptical, a little skeptical. You are listening to WSGS, Winston-Salem, WCOG, Greensboro, WPCM Burlington, WMFR, High Point, those signals making up the Triad Sports Hub. This is where the magic starts. You're on the Thrive with Josh Graham. Show Thrive!

The Sports Hub at AM600, AM 920. Ding. Toilet feet just toilet me looking forward to getting. The Charlotte. ACC kickoff tomorrow and Thursday.

We'll be speaking with Dave Doran. Dave Clausen, Scott Satterfield, Manny Diaz, among others, we're going to have fantastic guests. Both both days and DG's going to be there as well.

So expect great coverage of ACC football from noon to seven o'clock, both tomorrow and Thursday, live from Charlotte. We're looking forward to that. I got an email about an hour ago asking for my ACC preseason poll. And I still have no idea really. What to make of the coastal division?

It's on our ACC kickoff bingo board. Coastal gonna coastal. Six years, six different champs. In the coastal division. Last year, Pittsburgh won.

They have a quarterback coming back in Kenny Pickett. But They lost four of their five starting offensive linemen and lost two. 1,000-yard rush here.

So I really don't think it's going to be Pittsburgh this year. Virginia Tech was Uncharacteristically known. Miami. After its outstanding twenty seventeen season, Down and Mark Richt retires. In comes Manny Diaz, though, and all reviews have been great.

I look forward to talking to Manny Diaz and Charlotte because I I'm just interested in this vibe that everybody's talking about. People feel like the U is going to be back sooner rather than later because Manny Diaz is a Miami guy through and through. It's an outstanding story. Miami. They they were great.

In the eighties? Very good at the end of the 90s and early 2000s. Manny Diaz, at that time, 20 years ago, was doing what I'm doing right now. He was a Production assistant for ESPN. Right out of school.

That's what he wanted to do. And then he pursued coaching and found himself at his dream job. Weeks after, he was named the head coach for the first time somewhere else. It was a temple. Mm.

A few weeks later, Mark Rick retires. Mandy Diaz. Coordinated a defense that was one of the best in college football for a team that underachieved. And as much as I like Miami, And I love This talent, and I like Manny Diaz, what I'm reading here. I think I have more faith in Virginia Tech to turn it around more than Miami and Florida State.

Virginia Tech has a coach that went to the ACC championship game in his first year. And did so while Miami was pretty darn good. And while North Carolina was coming off a One lost season in the regular season in 15. I think Justin Fuente is a very good coach. I saw it at Memphis.

He turned it around at Memphis.

something that was seen to be impossible, almost just as impossible as it was to turn around Duke and David Cutcliffe has done that. Justin Fuente did that kind of a coaching job with the Memphis Tigers, made them a power in the American Athletic Conference before that conference USA.

So we replaces Frank Beamer. He still has very good talent. I thought last year was an aberration for them. Almost in every Stretch of the word in every line of the definition. Aberration, that was Virginia Tech's 2018 season.

First losing record for the Hokies since the George H.W. Bush administration, 1992. They returned just three starters on defense going into the year and. They had to dismiss a player. They had two starting DBs.

Rupture their Achilles and tear their ACL respectively. They had academic ineligibilities. Their quarterback, Josh Jackson, there was question whether or not he would be eligible. He played and then he suffered a season ending injury against ODU, a game that they lost historically, a historically bad loss for Virginia Tech. It all went to hell.

They still went to a bowl game. and nearly b beat Cincinnati.

So, with that whirlwind of circumstances working against Virginia Tech. I can't help but believe that with Bud Foster coordinating a defense and him actually having players returning this time around and Justin Fuente being the coach and pressing the right buttons offensively, They're going to bounce back. Miami has the most talent. The best defense and the easiest schedule. Facing Virginia and Virginia Tech at home, opening the year in out-of-conference competition.

They're facing Florida. That's going to be essentially a home game for Miami. Even though I understand it's at a neutral site. Virginia Tech, meanwhile, has to go to Miami. Has to go to Boston College to open the year, has to go to Notre Dame, even though that's not a conference game.

Notre Dame plays a number of ACC teams each year. And they have to go to Virginia. You could argue Those are the four most difficult games on Virginia Tech's schedule. and they're all on the road. Still, I value Coaching so much that I'd be willing to overlook that.

versus picking the unknown. Everything in my gut. is telling me Pick Miami. They have they have so much talent. Everything you're hearing about Mandy Diaz is positive here.

But my head is telling me Virginia Tech isn't going to have back-to-back bad seasons. Justin Fuente is a very good coach. You don't know what Manny Diaz is yet as a head coach.

So I'm going Virginia Tech. To win the coastal and go to the ACC Championship game, Miami, I have them second. Virginia Third, Duke fourth, Pitt fifth. North Carolina six, Georgia Tech seven. That's how I have the coastal.

In the Atlantic. You'll be stunned to learn this. Maybe I need the hip-hop air horn to accent this. By winner. for the ACC coastal, or make it the Atlantic.

is clean sir. Yeah. Really went out on the limb there. It sounds like you during Let's Get Crazy. Who's second in the Atlantic?

Probably Syracuse. They lose their quarterback, all-time leading passer Eric Dungy, but Tommy DeVito, as North Carolina learned last year. Can certainly sling it. And it's a great scheme they run. That's gonna be successful whatever quarterbacks under center.

I think Wake Forrest is going to finish third in the Atlantic. I really do. I like them more than Boston College, which lost a lot, even though BC is going to be hosting Wake Forest this year, and B.C. has A.J. Dillon in those legs back.

And they have their quarterback in Anthony Brown. I think Wake Forrest returning a key player at every single one of their position groups. Quarterback, they have two guys: Kate Carney, running back, Sage Surat, wide receiver, Justin Haran, all ACC guy before being injured. At left tackle. Boogie Basham, D-line, Justin Sternad, linebacker.

Kobe Davis, a leader lost in the first game like Haran last year. And you have a saying Bassey if you go specialist. Maggio's back. Nick Skiba's back. A lot is returning for Dave Clausen.

It's hinged on being healthy, as all of this is. But I really like what the Deeks have put together. I think they're going to be the surprise team in the ACC, so I have them elevated to number three in the Atlantic Division. Boston College. I want to pick them fourth.

But I can't trust Boston College still. I just can't. With a Dazio to be better than Dave Dorn in NC State. NC State has lost so much. You lose your offensive coordinator in Eli Drinkwitz.

You lose the guy who would replace him in Dwayne Ledford, who. Becomes the O. C. for Scott Satterfield in Louisville. You lose Ryan Finley.

You lose your starting running back. And Reggie Gillaspi. You lose. Your two best wide receivers. Keldon Harmon and Jacoby Myers.

You lose your best defensive player, Jermaine Pratt. They lose all these players. How am I supposed to think NC State is going to be better than Boston College with those players back? I just do. I just trust Abe Doran.

NC State, fourth. Boston College Fifth. I'm not sold on Florida State. I think that's a disaster. I think Willie Taggart was a bad hire.

I have them sixth. Louisville seventh. Player of the Year, Travis Etienne. Not Trevor Lawrence. Etienne stats.

were absurd last year. I don't even think most people realize how crazy Travis Etienne's numbers were. He Rush for sixteen hundred fifty-eight yards. And he did so on two hundred four carries. He was splitting carries with two other running backs.

He doesn't have to do that anymore. Travis Etienne averaged 8.1 yards per rush. 24 touchdowns. Which means every ninth time he touched the football, Travis Etienne was scoring a touchdown. Those numbers were ridiculous.

So while Trevor Lawrence gets all the attention because of the hair and the position. I think ETN is going to be the player of the year. Clemson running back. Coach of the year, if Clemson wins every game, you gotta pick Dabo. If not.

Maybe the surprise team in the ACC. Maybe Dave Clausen. That's how I'd vote it. That's my ACC poll. Your thoughts are welcome on Twitter at SportsHub Triad.

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that you may not know. This is the drive. You gotta hear this. Go ahead. I think I wanna hear this.

You're on the drive with Josh Graham, the Sports Hub, at AM600, AM920. One of my favorite athletes in sports. is one of the biggest stars in his respective sport and you may not know who he is. In fact, just seconds ago, Dez just said the first two letters of this guy's name because. I think he wasn't trying to mispronounce the last name.

It's PK Suban. Of the New Jersey Devils who played for the Canadiens and the Nashville Predators. Is that what happened there? No. I knew how to say his last name.

Just making sure. Have you heard of Pique Subet? I've heard of him before. He is Flamboyant, he is fun. He is one of the biggest stars in the league.

Partly because he's very good, mostly because he's very good. But also, he might be the best black hockey player I've ever seen. That's why I know who he is. He's the black hockey player. There's only what, like, five of them.

There are much more Many more than there used to be.

So there's five instead of two? No, there's definitely about a dozen or more for sure. I could think of a few right off the top of my head, but PK Suban is better than Wayne Simmons. PK Suban is better than a Vanderkane. He's better than Dustin Bufflin.

And for the Hurricanes, he's better than the two black players I remember them having. Kevin Weeks in goal, even though he was one of the interchangeable goaltenders on that first team that went to a Stanley Cup, it was Kevin Weeks and Arthur Zerbe. Back in two thousand and two. But Piquet Suban better than Kevin Weeks, better than Anson Carter. He's very good.

He has a great personality. And he's awesome on social media. this sound you're about to hear. comes from PK Suban's Instagram account. Where he is doing play by play since it is the summer.

And a good time to put your dogs out in the backyard and have them compete against each other. He has multiple dogs. And they're eating at separate bowls. He filled them all up, and he has them competing against one another, and just the play-by-play itself. What Pique Suban is saying is very entertaining here.

We're taking it to the gridiron. Exactly the griz ass. Leo, poised, starving. Just woke up from a nap. He's got a split stance going.

He's ready to go. They're starving. Haven't even had lunch. Bear. Just waiting in the cut.

Lucy cheating, get out of there! Lucy Goose, I want a clean feeding today. No sloppiness, okay? Hey, get out of there, Lucy. No cheating.

Ready guys? Go! Lucy's off. Quick start. Sprint it off the line.

Look at Leo. Little boxer in them. Coming out, look at them working the corners. Let's work on the outside. That's a crazy tactic.

Look at Bear, half retriever, half chow. He doesn't care, he's competing. He's working the inside corners. Lucy. Let's see, she had a crazy start, Lou.

Show me what's up. Get back in there, Luci, back in the game. It's all going down at the super Yeah. at the Sou Ban house that's happening. Uh Why does he sound Italian to me?

I don't know. Just the first five seconds of this speaks to how entertaining PK Suban is. It really is just his voice. We're taking it to the gridiron. Exactly the griz ass.

Yeah. The grizzass. He sounds like uh one of them guys that kinda hang in the back of the deli. You don't talk to him unless you got an issue with somebody down in the neighborhood. It's very dramatic.

His cadence there. Getting people ready to go. I mean, the first five minutes of this. If you put it with the football music, It would get people excited for what Football season's about to be. We're taking it to the gridiron.

Exactly, the grizz ass. Leo, boys, starving. Just woke up on the nap. He's got a split stance going on. Stop it!

What are you doing? Da da da da da da da da da da. Oh. The griz ass. Can you imagine Joe Buck opening the broadcast that way?

What a grovelly New Jersey sounding kind of accent.

Well, no, just saying we're taking it to the gridiron. Grizz ass. To the griz ass. I'm Joe Buck, Troy Aikman here. No one's ever done a Joe Buck impression.

You notice that? I don't know if it's possible. Like, I don't even know how to go about doing it. Let's go to the sidelines, Aaron. No, he has the he puts a little inflection in there, but it's touchdown Raiders.

Touchdown Raiders. I'd have to study him. He's hard. A lot harder than the others. Yeah.

He's not very animated. Gym dance. Hello, friends. That's all I got. A tradition unlike any other.

The Masters Mm. I do like the idea of doing play-by-play for PK Suban creating content, having his dogs feeding the dogs, turning that into a game play by play. It sounds like what you would do to waste time. Like if you're driving in your car cross country, some of the tricks you'd take, some of the tricks you'd do to stay awake or to stay entertained on long car rides. What are some of the things you do?

I play music and sing along like non-stop. Me too. Like top. It keeps you awake to do so. I remember.

Driving from Colorado all the way back to North Carolina, I had to do sixteen and a half hours to Louisville. Driving across two different time zones, and I remember getting on Highway Seventy. Western Kansas.

So I went from Colorado through Nebraska and into Kansas. I got there around 5 a.m. Uh mountain time. Actually, make it central time. I didn't get.

off of that Highway Seventy until eight o'clock that night.

So, a lot of driving straight through, and I remember. Just knowing. I was singing out loud to keep myself awake. There was a Taylor Swift song that was really big that summer. And I My eyes were drooping.

My face was showing no emotion, but my mouth was moving while singing a Taylor Swift song, Getting Into Louisville, at. 10:30 at night at that point. 336-777-1600. If you have other tricks that you use to get into. When you're driving long distance across the country, on Twitter at SportsHub Triad, you can contribute that way as well.

Another one I do is sunflower seeds.

So you're chewing them, you roll down the window, and you shoot them out your mouth. You shoot them. like a projectile to see how far it can go. How far you could shoot the Sunflower seed. Fun fact, you can't fall asleep if your mouth's moving.

So, chewing something's always productive. That is true. I have heard that before about the mouth moving. Yeah, you just shoot it right out your mouth. That's how it works.

What's good to Scott in Greensboro who wants in on PK Souban? Scott, what do you got? If you want to know how comfortable K Supan is. You need to see the photo again he posted a couple weeks ago. where he was wearing listy moms the bikini.

Ah. That brings me to my next point. Thank you, Scott. Wearing Lindsay Vaughn's Bikini, the other thing is that makes him a huge star, he has a superstar girlfriend. And that is Lindsay Vaughan.

Probably the best Olympic skier the United States has had, at least on the women's side for sure. She just recently retired. But these two are Are all over each other on Instagram? And it seems to be a very fun relationship that they have. After she retired, she flew back eighteen hours.

And who was there to pick her up and to greet her? Piquet Suban. And this sound you're about to hear. It is the award for best boyfriend in sports. PK Suban To paint some of the contextual clues here.

surprises her with a special kind Of cake. You're going to hear her describing something. It's a special kind of cake. That PK Suban Uh Had made for Lindsay Vaughn when she arrived after her career had just finished. Oh yeah.

in the mix. Officially retired. Oh there she is, home sweet home. Oh yeah, look at her. Eighteen hour flight day, still in the mix.

That cake. The old belly goat. That's epic. Of course it is. You know how we do it?

With the pink poles. Baa! Is that a lamb or a goat? You was it, you was it, you was it, you was it. Oh.

Who's the hat? Is that another goat? Ho ho ho. Babe. What's up with the gizzots?

Ha ha ha. The gizzo kid. The goat That they're describing is a cake. He got a ga a a goat cake. That looked like it was skiing with pink poles.

Because in PK Suban's mind, Lindsay Vaughn is the goat. The gizzard game. And then when she went to the bedroom, there was a stuffed goat on the bed. Or, as PK Suban calls it, the gizzo kid. Yeah.

I love him. He sounds like a mid to late 90s New York rapper to me. I think he sounds more. like a surfer. A surfer or a skateboarder.

What's up, brah? Oh, what's that over there? Oh, that's not that's not a lamb, it's a The gizzo kid. Yo, let's go. Let's go skate at the quad.

I'm hearing like Brooklyn. We're hearing two completely different things. I'm picturing. I'm picturing somebody with very long hair And Shirtless with a surfboard on the beach. You know how we do it?

Yeah. We do know how you do. Great boyfriend. PK Suban. This is an easy guy to get behind.

who's now a New Jersey devil, was just traded. Just very good player. In addition to being probably the best black hockey player I've seen play, now you could go back in the past and say, oh, what about Grant Fuhrer, Josh?

Okay. Modern day. Best I've seen play. I never watched Grant Fur play for the Edmonton Oilers. But He's great on social media.

Great player altogether, superstar girlfriend, great boyfriend, it seems too, and does play by play. of animals On the Grizzass. Eating some chow. Big fan of that guy. Lot of things happening here on a Tuesday afternoon.

Remember, we're going to be broadcasting from Charlotte. Tomorrow And The Carolina Panthers are going to drop. Or excuse me, Amazon's gonna drop this special in the Carolina Panthers. Amazon all or nothing series, Scott Fowler, Jordan Roderick. They're already tweeting about some of the things that are going to be in this special.

David Tepper talking about the signing of Eric Reed, saying, Yeah, it's a little bit risky. It takes a little bit of. Fill in the blank to do that? And Apparently Christian McCaffrey's quite the jokester. Quite the jokester telling some jokes.

Has people on their side. I don't picture Christian McCaffrey being a very funny guy. I thought he was always pretty dry. But then again, that's just our interactions with them. He is wearing Bruce Lee T-shirts, it seems like, every week.

It's a way for us to get to know these guys a little better. I am very interested in learning more about David Tepper because I do have a man crush on him right now. Really? Yeah, I really wish he would buy the Hornets and just. Just end it all, just own everything.

We talked about that before. That is kind of sexy. It's just everything. Like how he carries down the button-up. It's crazy.

It's fading hair. Fading hair. Does he have any? Oh, I think he has. I think he's bald.

Oh, yeah. You know that's hot. But just the way he talks, the way he carries himself, just like he uh he he just feels so confident in what he's doing. And obviously he's been very successful in everything he's touched, so I respect that. I'd like to see that.

Are you saying David Pepper should be the next bachelor? Maybe. if he wasn't married. Yeah. Be the next Bachelor?

That might hinder his possibilities. How great would that show be? If David Tepper was on The Bachelor. Yeah, somebody. How old's David Tepper?

I'm terrible at this guy. He'd be like 50-something. I'd say he's in his 50s. That would be my guess. He's 61.

Wow, look at that. Imagine if the bachelor just went all in and saying, if David Tepper was single. Or maybe we could do this with Robert Kraft. Yeah, Marlene might not be very happy about Marlene Tepper. Since Robert Kraft.

has already been all over the place with things. If they just went all in and said, all right, here are 30 women that want Robert Kraft's money. and Robert Kraft gets to choose between the thirty women.

Okay. I don't know if Robert Kraft would be down for that. You don't think so? I don't know. I think Robert Kraft would love that.

Especially phrasing it the way you did. Here are 30 women that are here for Robert Kraft's money.

So, Robert Kraft, you get to change. I think Robert Kraft understands that's already happening with who he was dating most recently, who I think was in her early 30s. No pretense or nothing. She's like, Ah! These three women are here for your money.

And then all a facade the entire season. You know, I'm starting to fall in love with Robert. I think I'm starting to. Starting to fall in love with him. I'm starting to feel something here.

Have to take Mr. Kraft to the windmill. Wow. Great recall from Des. Wow, bro.

Wow. Very, very surprised you remembered that. But then again, I would be stunned if on a Sports Talk radio show you forget the portion we talk about Getting it on in a windmill.

Okay. What do you got and take it to the house? It's a choose your own adventure day for you, Josh. Yeah. You can either learn about.

The Varsity Blues remake? Yeah. Methed out alligators. Methed out alligators. Come on.

Yeah, yeah. Let's take it to the house next. Mm-hmm.
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