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February 3, 2020 6:14 pm

On today's edition of The Drive with Josh Graham, Wes Miller comes on to discuss the UNC-Duke Rivalry, Darin Gantt discusses the future of the NFL, and Let's Go Crazy.

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This is dry when Josh Graham drive. This support is I'm picking the better team, not the better story. So the 49ers are going to be the cheapest serious transparent liners. They have a better offense.

Statistically, first down first and goal Passover load credit passes. Second six Williams's better team, not the better story will get the biggest cheeseburger you are is trying to double by all of that era will give us some poetry and a bit is our resident C-SPAN on-site. I don't think there's anybody the blame on the 49ers.

My initial reaction was the pile on Shanahan bought he wasn't the one that got called for a false start to kill a drive up 20 to 17 works is me up. 20 then he wasn't one that overthrew Depot Samuel as well, up 20 to 17 playacting them work in the entire game. Bad play action on second and five Kittle was open across the field.

Chris Jones made a good point it at the ball third down five lot of pressure, but did was wide open. Across the middle coach did his job to open up receivers first and second Reedsburg Arapahoe at the just and execute down 2420. They had a final shot and they scheme something up to get Emmanuel Sanders down the field garrotte phlogiston to put enough air underneath of it. I'm not blaming garrotte below either but Jimmy G. He was 18, 21, heading into the final stretch.

He was probably the favorite to win the MVP. At that point it was either him or Depot Samuel. He didn't allow the 21 points, like the issue I had bringing up the Atlanta Super Bowl yeah maybe you don't throw the ball, allowing for a sack to take out a field-goal range, but the Kyle Shanahan allow 31 unanswered points to the knowing when patriots I don't think so. There was a defense out there today. I was told last night. The best one we seen all year long and they allowed 21 points and about seven minutes all but it might've been the rest. I was watching with the San Francisco Niners fan big friend of mine really good friend of mine and that was his narrative. Oh, it's the referees because the Kittle push letter of the law. It was the right call. I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it either and then from that point on it was for sure a defensive pass interference in the end zone play at the pylon with Williams that was the go-ahead touchdown couldn't really overturn the call because Jesse stepped out of bounds but we just didn't know where the ball was it was so close Bill benefits did the right thing, saying that the call stands versus saying that it was confirmed but felt but told us everything we needed the no go.

Got breaks to kill.

That drop was reviewed and they got the right call. There Jimmy G didn't get called for the delay of game on fourth down 10. Their last heave at 2420 down.

It's just lazy to accuse the rafts of being biased. It's lazy just depend everything on a coach when something goes south, in the ultimate team sport and the same thing for the quarterback as well just give Kansas City the credit that's what I'm wanting to do today. I was wrong in my game pack.

I was six and one everywhere else.

When it came to our bets best. Our best bet on the season 5045 and three about 53%. We batted this year which is decent wasn't like 60% a year ago but it was just decent.

I do want to spend some time in Kansas City bearing Gant to join us in pro football talk.com in a little less than 10 minutes. The chase there about the role the NFL for the next five years. They are excellent in the three most important categories coach quarterback organization. The organization stopped often gets forgotten, but let's not forget the only charters they were 11 five last year didn't make the playoffs this year. Why they let the Melvin Gordon stuff, hang in the air. They were cheap with some of their contracts.

Some of the drama with the new stadium politics. They let that seep into that locker room and even though they had talent. They couldn't have back to back successful years that's on things better.

That's on the front office at on ownership. The Houston Texans. It's a mess in the ownership room so not even the Sean Watson can get that team past the second round with Bill O'Brien, the Rams was Stan Conti great the last two years, but that front office bad decisions made with draft picks and trading that stuff away. I don't care how good some of the players on the team is I don't care how great John McVeigh is you can't overcome bad ownership and about front office is a reason why the Browns have been as bad as long as they have also nobody in the ASC is on poor with Kansas City New England. If Brady comes back, maybe they have one last crack at it tops two years.

The ravens nobody cares. When a playoff game. Lamar Jackson Houston Bill O'Brien, the Steelers, their aging out lose AB lose lay beyond Bell. Ben Roethlisberger, how much longer does he have left if they were in the NFC to be a totally different story.

The NFC Aaron Rodgers is. It is prime still backing up his prime, but still his prime. Getting to the NFC championship game, the state even when they lose Drew brace Bridgewater was five. Knowing Tyson Hill. He proved to be a pretty significant weapon for New Orleans Russell Wilson Pete Carroll they are still together that tandem the Dallas Cowboys great roster around at Prescott good line.

Zeke Elliott defensive players in place. They just need good leadership will see if Mike McCarthy to provide the Eagles if they're healthy we saw what they did with nipples playing quarterback just a few years ago so I'd be NFC is a far more dangerous conference in the ASC is plus Papo homes. It's hard to really give a good comparison to him. He's a little bit. Russell Wilson is a little bit. Brett Favre, except neither Russell Wilson or Brett Favre want to Super Bowl MVP in their careers homesteaded at 24 is the youngest.

Do that in terms of winning an actual league MVP award and Super Bowl MVP. Here the quarterbacks to accomplish both those feet in the last 30 years, Montana, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Pat Holmes. Those six companies. So when you're in that type of company commander to go on a run and Andy Reid's 61 years old. Some say always on the last legs of his career. Bill Belichick is 67.

Mack Brown is 68 North Carolina Pete Carroll is 68 years old. There is still a lot for these guys to accomplish and I think they're going to rule the AFC and ruled the NFL for the next five years. Aaron, this is a lot of chiefs talk. I want you to accent it the way it needs to be accented with one of the segments we haven't done nearly enough. We've learned you have a talent and that talent is slam poetry you need to turn the lights down at all to give us your chiefs poem you get this artistic integrity going right even though it's for radio you make sure the lights get turned down that way we can maintain the quality of the bit integrity of report. What is this one: recall this will joy joy coursing through my body like fireworks over Kansas City since 1993. I watch the Chiefs misery misery misery we have to wait, but I knew I knew since last year's AFC championship mouse that this year Patrick Lavon Mahon would rise to the level of both precious daughter MVP. Second, you Super Bowl MVP feels the come up.

His review no more misery, bliss, and read. I can see through the fog. I didn't know goats could sound like from the fro you know where to find me if you will be in the land of the brain and the whole she pulled up. Did you just rhyme MVP with MVP do also. You would've thought this year in the NFL. Particularly, we would've known Pat Mahon's middle name is Lamar Lavon on lease of the bar Favre on Lavon. I must miss urgent days. He's Lavon Mahon's will is running these patching the hose but is kill you in the pocket. It was chilly will both SMEs Patrick Lavon Mahon does know you can do about every NFL state. Every state has an NFL team has a writer who's given a Pro football Hall of Fame vote that way, no story is uncovered a story, say like Sam Mills, who for the first time was a finalist for the Pro football Hall of Fame.

He didn't get in but bearing Gant apparently was the guy in that room in Miami who was trying to make the case for Mills telling Sam Mills stories to people who maybe haven't heard them before. I'm interested in those stories and also for his thoughts on some of the aftermath stories regarding Super Bowl LIV bearing Gant Pro football talk.com and NBC Sports will join us. Fill us in on those things next. You can try getting your sports news and talk somewhere else.

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Already that your best to leave it right here on the drive with Josh Graham is one of my favorite talk NFL bearing hand is now with this from pro football talk.com and MVC sports. He was in Miami for Super Bowl LIV. Much of the media lease on television and radio's reaction to the game centers on San Francisco blowing the game. Is it Jimmy garrotte below or Kyle Shanahan choking.

How much responsibility do they bear more than Kansas City. What they did to steal it in the fourth quarter and I find this a little bit interesting considering separatist goats seem to have opportunities that were presented because of Kyle Shanahan.

Like Greg or George Kittle open across the field on a second and five and then on the third and five when garrotte below was flushed and threw it away when the game is 20 to 17. At that point, when the game was 20 to 10 you have the false start penalty and it seems that a lot of things are being attached the Shanahan despite the fact that the defense which was the best in the NFL all year long allowed 21 points unanswered in the final seven minutes of this game so I ask you Darren how much blame. Do you think Shanahan and garrotte below deserve all of it.

Yeah. They could all be fired and grow from the leg know it is complicated you went through a number of factors I'm had a hard time putting a lot of its own Kyle Shanahan Chris where scenarios date of birth box and quintiles not calling timeouts right before the end of the first half. I was like oh my God he didn't trust his quarterback today and we should probably know that after they go through the NFC championship. Jimmy throws the date on but he wasn't there at 1010. He was good it was like I get the ball coming out.

Second half. It's Tintin right now would get the keys right where we want you can only game plan around your quarterback for so long. Eventually you have to make a plague and in that moment you know how Shanahan decided he didn't want to give Jimmy grout on a chance to screw anything up right before halftime and that was probably the first time. That's when you realized old Kyle: it's gameplay scared and can Jimmy Greco get better. Can Jimmy you know push through the situation for me, possibly didn't have early success in the you know rival to figure things out in the playoffs but it's gonna take some work is as far as that defense. I think those guys just held Oliver is on a caregiver conversation or the souk all right with somebody else but I fit you know the 49ers are chemically not like John Fox you try to collect graphite defense, short game is all you can so you gotta chance in the last two minutes.

When I find it to your point guy who can score 3 cuts Darren's on twitter at Darren Gant read his stuff Pro football talk.com so I think San Francisco is the better team. The more complete team Kansas City. They won the game. They have the better quarterback the better coach. So I ask you over the next five years, who would you buy more stock in San Francisco or Kansas City because I think the NFC has the younger quarterbacks and maybe a little bit more competition than the AFC does more proven competition. I think, but at the same time. As I mentioned separatist go probably a better team and also younger, who do you buy stock. Well here's where things get complicated. Yeah okay good have to get Patrick Mahon contract sooner rather than later. That will make them the highest paid player in football if they do that too soon, they might not be able to keep a Chris Jones 20 by the way mate decoys coming down the stretch defensively for the cheeks last night. He's not going to be cheap so it couldn't be curious to see the move they make to cut a work around that window that we talked about so often where you get that cheap rookie quarterback. The main that's it. You know go as Sean McVeigh what it's like when you pay the quarterback, Yahweh, and then you gotta put team around him again that can be tricky but is hung Patrick of homogeneity read around that roster. I'm not like their chances when I'm in a be curious to see is how much rope Jimmy actually get the meat, obviously you are going to next season with him. But if next season turns into how long do they want to commit now that take good team regardless of the quarterback is a mean reset their game plan around a quarterback. What if he and another year year and 1/2. The scene and up the Jimmy garrotte cloaks. And decide to just grab from another quarterback and find another cheap Yankee backfill and I you know I like the job Kyle Shanahan still and turning those guys around in a hurry and taking it Danny to misfortune goods listed both with animals last night. He was almost the best player on the field not named my homes were dating William and you know you keep stacking up guys like that and you're always going to have an opportunity. It's just a matter of what direction I think with the quarterback how much optimism, said Carolina path and fans have when they see this Niner team get to the Super Bowl and how quickly they've rebuilt under a new coach is in his third year and also in the same period of time.

They parted ways from a controversial Super Bowl mobile quarterback like Carolina might have to. And oh yeah, let's not forget San Francisco was trying to recover from the surprise retirement of their all NFL middle linebacker said Carolina Panther fans look at this day. Okay, we have the innovative young dolphins of minds, it's probably time for us to part ways with the controversial mobile quarterback and at the same time. Maybe we need to build the draft away like the Niners did in drafting a Nick Bowser who was dominant last night. All you know I think they can take a measure of hope in the fact that it unit fail. And if you're smartly rolling you can turn things around in a hurry. If you find a quarterback if they get rid of cam Newton obviously changes the calculus on everything they're doing this year.

You know you're going from you now. Do you find a veteran backup for you something for you to develop somebody else for the future because you cannot solve what you got Kyle Allen or Ari are you to start over from scratch because I mean if they come out of the draft with Justin Herbert and a bunch of guys out then that's a different that's a different formula than if they try to milk one more year out of camp to see how he's get a BME. I still think I got tremendous value despite the injuries and despite contract quickly so good at football and if they don't want him somebody else is going to do and I could see him play in well but it's the NFL you have an opportunity that's the reward for stinking and going through the seasons. Like it went through last year. Now Jimmy gets hurt. They go for 12. The reward is both just a straight up feast in the Super Bowl. So every now then that happened, you just gotta make sure to take advantage of it.

When the opportunity her and let me add this San Francisco here were five of their last six or make it for their last five top 10 picks that they've had since transitioning away from Jim Harbaugh and going to the Chip Kelly stuff before arriving at Kyle Shanahan, Nick Lohse McGlynn seal on the offense of line to force Buckner on defense. Solomon Thomas's been a bit of a rotational player and that the line Eric Armistead those of the top 10 picks that stiff disco had and they are for or five of the most important players that they've brought to the Super Bowl this year, the Carolina Panthers, they have a top 10 pick and the last four times Marty Hardy made a top 10 pick. They were Julius peppers Jordan grows cam Newton and Luke equally so will work full see what happens when we get to the draft more plenty time to talk about the draft we get there, but in addition to working at Pro football talk and NBC Sports Darren Also is our states whole thing over and I love what you put on twitter talking about Sam Mills and the opportunity you have to speak to his story. This is, I think.

Case in point.

The reason why every fan base or I guess every NFL team gets somebody who covers that be gets a Hall of Fame vote so everybody's story is covered the whole Famers in terms of modern era inductee Steve Atwater Isaac Bruce Steve Hutchinson Edward James for Palmolive sandals got closer than he's ever been this year. What right at room like in what were some of the things were bringing up to try and let Sam Mills story be no well and I think to people in the Carolinas know full well what Sam Mills meant that franchise fee is basically in the going to try to make is milled created everything the Carolina Panthers or about not just you know he didn't build the stadium. He didn't pick the teams he didn't coach very when the head coach. But he was there substance in the early years in the point I tried to make to my fellow voters is not just a mascot. This guy was not a short guy who overcame this is not really running down kick from specialty.

He was your best player in 1996 when you went second-year expansion team to the NFC championship game in advance directives teams all not because he was inspirational, but because he was great at football and also he became an inspirational figure, you know, in his later years bringing up young players and then as a coach, you know, obviously we keep pounding it everything he meant to that team during the Super Bowl run in 03, mean it's hard to take his name out of any conversation about Carolina Panthers but great player before you ever got here. He was great in New Orleans. He was a centerpiece of the dome patrol, defendant. He was great in the USFL. He was a lot of people believe who were involved in that league. He was at best defensive player in that league. That league also included Reggie White so I think Sam got an incredible resume. I look forward to telling I think in a lot of ways with guys in their careers on teams without great quarterbacks don't have copy and playoff success.

And again, Bill spent his career plan with Bobby Hebert, Billy Joe Hobart and Carrie Collins, the fur-lined that's not exactly conducive to winning Super Bowl so the guy got as much out of the you know a 5 foot nine frame is anybody ever could. You know I the other point I made when we were talking about Sam and his legacy exit. You know Zach Thomas was also a finalist in that room and I said without Mills, there may never be got, because I think Sam change the way people look at undersize football players and he probably created a lot of opportunity for a lot of people. Listen, I know I ramble on are talking about Sam. You should see me in that room when I get a microphone in my hand preference from New York City when I start talking like a Baptist preacher. I could preach the sermon at Sam Mills every year for the next however many years and I hope that I have more opportunities to because I believe you want to say this all the time up that list of 15. There are probably 13 or 14 Hall of Fame is on that list.

I think Sam Mills is one of are you allowed to reveal who you voted after the fact. You know the holiday really want to go down that road, but I don't care. I you know in the I'm a big believer in transparency in my ballot was a lot like the final. The final five. We didn't do it exactly the way we've done it in the past. Basically we cut it to a list of 10 and then vote for our top five. When I voted top five uploaded Palmolive Atwater Hutchinson by Sally Ike, Bruce and all, and you know Tony Purcell. He didn't get in entering James Gotti but otherwise I would for the five and that's where it's difficult because I could've, you know, had entering James on that list that I grew justified or Alan Craddick at infinity product and justified. So yeah, it's really splitting hairs, but I going in each year.

You know, intent on voting for the five best guys on the ballot in front of me at the time and I believe now that I think that all five of those guys. I put my name next to I think will be whole Famers you happy to be back to Miami very happy to be back to Miami was a good week, but it was a long week where were very tired. Delete.

But yeah it was a great trip. I mean it was spectacle.

Everybody in Miami you get some sleep. You've been great all throughout this year. I know will be chatting sometime soon. Appreciate you spending the time and I'm glad you made it out of Miami alive that were alive and in one piece will talk you got you all think that staring down on twitter your was well on twitter@darrengantprincipaltalk.com is Sammy Watkins of Bost last night I was watching and there are handful of people who were just convinced Watkins is a Bost because he was drafted. I think in the top five Buffalo Bills took him and see if you can find what they gave up.

In order to acquire that pic in order to select wide receiver. Now it's on the team.

If you are trading that high up to take a wide receiver is only so much value they can give you just like a corner in my opinion, but Sammy Watkins was the 2013 draft same year that the Panthers took Kelvin, Benjamin, that's the same year that Odell Beckham Junior was drafted. Mike Evans was drafted. I think Brandon cooks maybe was taken that year as well so my wide receivers went that year. What was the trade package they sent their ninth pick as well as their first and fourth round pick for the next year while so they gave up two first-round draft picks to bring an Sammy Watkins should careers be viewed differently in terms of production based on where your drafted like is a solid career a solid career no matter what or if you're taken in the top three. The weight of your career better be denser than someone say who is a undrafted because the way I view it is I think taken Junior was a top 10 pick to out of Ohio State if you last as long as Ted get in your starter for a Super Bowl team in the Panthers were in 2015 with that again is the primary receiver when the primary receiver. I don't think that's a failed career. I don't think you're a boss, Sammy Watkins, would you call him the chief number two receiver next to Tyree killer number three is as far as the Sievers Deas EB number two but as far as receiving options he Bobby.

He was a starting wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs right that's the point I'm making right if you are a starter for a Super Bowl team. A team that wins a Super Bowl also. We must have for 5K just last contributions right it's hard for me to say 1314 1516 1718 that in your seven season if you're contributing in the Super Bowl starting and winning a Super Bowl that your bus differently.

Not a Bush nor do other part about that is.

He's 26 he's only 26 years old six years old. I can't believe that house a possible didn't leave while you 26 years old is like 2627 so even though he didn't live up to being number three in the draft. I think there's some middle place between Hall of Famer and Bost, Sammy Watkins is a good player. If you're starting wide receiver for an offense like the Chiefs and you win the Super Bowl with contributions in your seventh year you were a good NFL player not somebody was out of the league not getting their second contract right we've seen a lot of those.

Now you might get more opportunity because of where you are slotted to go early on and I acknowledge that on the day that Vic Beasley isn't going to get a deal from the Atlanta Falcons and he certainly to get the contract away. Maybe in undrafted player doesn't, but the Cesar bus. I just a guess too far and I thought that was interesting conversation last night that I was having at my Super Bowl party Robert Wood hated II would not have hated it, but I also am not a fan of calling people a bust after they list the team that drafted was he a bus for the bills know because they got to be the patriots once with him, but he left the bills I give, even if he wasn't good.

He would've been a bus for the bills he can no longer be labeled a bust through the draft to be a bust for a player like Matt saying a possible player yeah there are two different things completely so no I would not been a bus for them. Matt you will him for the ravens. He was a Bost is idling in four years and learn about her Bost yeah and really play Buster but if they come back if Vernon Bressler comes back in place for the saints, and he has like averages for sex year and some tackles for loss. Bus anymore. He was a bus for the Panthers was on a bust as a player. Is there I would also try to remember who was the same Watkins footballs when he got to Buffalo EJ manual. Let's go okay tie Rod Taylor Wilson Taylor is the number one QB rating for the bills and their whole history. He's the number one quarterback I've never heard a bigger indictment on QB rating Robert we got to get to the house. He was a good quarterback. You can't sleep on him like that.

I know you like to talk politics on here, but the one election coming up that everyone is going to be talking I got a feeling this has nothing to do with politics will take it to the house to show the close of the Loch Ness monster and got her drunk driving Josh grab I need to publicly apologize to Jay Leno insecure who I both know are huge fans of this I was wrong about the Super Bowl halftime show.

I may have been wrong about Debbie Lovato was around about her.

I didn't think the anthem was going to be that great, but then it was glorious when I said it was good to be under two minutes and three seconds and it turned out be and what like a buck 45 it was a short anthem so I guess in that regard.

It was a good anthem. I was six into in my bets except for the you know picking the actual game correctly but the Super Bowl halftime show. It exceeded expectations for me and I think for the rest of the country till because this is the first time I can remember doing a radio show. After a halftime show where were talking about a well-received halftime.

I've said it many times, that the expectations a bit out of whack with the show for years. Whether it was Justin Timberlake wasn't well received Lady Gaga were just picking front of her jumping and catching a football Katy Perry on a bleeping Tiger massive Tiger lien into her halftime show. But what we talk about after that game ended, left short the entire day talking about left short, the Coldplay one was met and I say that is probably the biggest Coldplay fan you know and Maroon 5 Super Bowl halftime I thought was fine. I said that on the air and I had a bunch of people accusing me of just trying to be a contrarian. As a result, as if that would be the topic that I choose the last time I remember a Super Bowl halftime exceeding expectations in the public was Bruno Mars and the red hot chili peppers and I think the reason that was well-received was because it exceeded where our expectations were. That's why it was well received. Like usually the patient's arm by this one. It wasn't secure Jay Leno. Where is this going to go wrong and then it didn't.

It was just perfectly delivered and we learned as a country together. What but cleavage was, we learned what it sounded like when Erin Gabriel saw the Kansas City Chiefs holding up the Lombardi trophy for the first time in his lifetime.

It sounded like this. What's the best we you saw about that. Now that's a meme Robert believes she's just trying to capture clout for sure and hear Robert. I don't think for sure it worked hundred percent I think about the secret conch from SpongeBob when they'll have to go the snow is magic conch. I thought third down for the hoagies at Lane Stadium. They have that little turkey sound that happens we can agree that's what it mostly sounds like right sound like a turkey sound that she's making their sure, I can hear that the one that halftime show secure Jay Leno. I really liked Allie G do that was dressed up like the silver surfer that came out was not bad Bunny, pretty sure that was Allie G have seen the movie a lot of times that look just like are you kidding right now.

No doubt there was such a miracle.

And as Allie G who also have been largest that Bunny made up name. Who the hell's name is bad Bunny longjohns lets billers get to join us in about 10 minutes from you and CJ over Tar Heel player headed to North Carolina this week, 336-777-1600. What did you think of the halftime show on Twitter at sports of dryad. I thought it was really well done and Jay-Z had any role in it.

Good for him where Shakira does the first half and then J low for 1/2 and then there back out there together. She has she been Jay Leno has the Puerto Rican flag get kids involved with American flags on the T-shirt everybody feels great except I think there was an expiration date where it no longer was good in the age range of people like our parents. There's no way that they like to show my dad.

He was ranting about not enough saying and I need dancing. I don't need any more dancing. I should set how did it. How was it received in the walls counsel, they were not happy yeah my dad was happy. He loved my stepmom not so happy she thought it was inappropriate for children. A lot of it definitely was the most pornographic halftime show we've ever seen, and that even includes the halftime show that actually had a body part exposed. Yeah, my mom, she was like this is just still awake and if you're listening that's exactly what you sound like so I'm not make funny but I am sorry so maybe the right playing for figuring out the halftime show isn't trying to land the biggest star currently in entertainment or in music, but trying to find somebody who doesn't have an agenda to play that doesn't have an album to sell somebody you know Cisco to go on stage and play the head that would secure Jay Leno did like Shakira. Both of those musicians did they play a song by them. That was written past 2010.

I don't think so.

Waiting for tonight. I am real Jenny from the block at Shakira starting would see Wolf whenever, wherever hips don't lie. It seems there specifically trying to hit a demo probably about 30 to 40-year-old man and woman and those two. They fit that demo perfectly. You're in high school when Jenny from the block as a thing or Shakira was a big thing in this country and she's massive worldwide. It was in hindsight a very smart selection to have those two bought for using that same criteria to try and pick a halftime show in Tampa next year what he thinks the play because I don't think Tampa has a lot of culture were going to do the Latina or Latino halftime show. After we just did that in Miami. Plus anybody's ever been to St. Pete versus Miami can tell you that it's very different culturally. Even though you're in the same state I will think it's as simple as yeah Taylor Swift really big right now or Justin Bieber. Let's throw them out on stage who somebody who's been out of it for five or six years that was big in the late 90s and throughout the 2000 you could just thrust out onto a stage and asked to play the hits because they're not trying to show a new album on yes Aaron John.

He will be perfect. I saw Littlejohn in Greenville America two years ago and he had massive dad vibes going on. He had like an orange striped polo shirt like the one that you would just throw on when you were forced to go to church as a kid. That's what he was wearing had cargo shorts on.

It wasn't the greatest look Littlejohn, but that's not bad.

That's a pretty good route to take work. I think were aiming in the right direction here. Anybody else maybe like Avril Lavigne to crown ruling right now and she got cloned.

Anyway, that's not even the original one. I think your writing is buyback up to a conspiracy. Oh yeah, look at her hand's hand size totally different watcher group the mic before the cloning process and after telling you what Tim McGraw will be a big enough draw or is that just massive in the South and is necessarily gonna reach worldwide on yes I think if they had the Super Bowl in Montgomery Alabama into McGraw with the flock is not about just about who's in the actual stadium. It's about who was watching on TV you have 150 million people watching a case no limit answers with a rhyme to McGraw Helm you have that Dave grew back to accent the hat with Nickelback halftime show how tobacco I don't know if that would work out very great if you had Nickelback as the 2021 Super Bowl halftime show. Akon Akon been up to Akon and T-Pain.

If you get those two together, maybe magic to be created there Akon he's been involved in so many heads I think is over in like Africa building like wells in schools and stuffer kids take on his view on the whole city yeah G so if the halftime show was billed as Akon and Littlejohn are we there or do you need to add T-Pain to the mix.

If you want to go full to thousands hits that you remember jumping from I'm sprung to buy you a drink and bartender to all the Littlejohn hits and and of course they all are the same salty much is like literally I got a Spanish restaurant like like they're all the same song and then Akon, I'm here for you sound like yesterday's halftime show. You have all the I would love to see T-Pain where and what Shakira was wearing that be nice note on output. Littlejohn O anything about that or put T-Pain in the monster outfit like you worn the mass singer. He wanted season one it shows so bad didn't watch after the Super Bowl last night. No, I did watch and that's how I know I said I like Tiger definitely is Cronk. There's no question in my mind all this cast of characters has nine combined Super Bowl appearances drunk as most of those he's big and he likes the party are 69 jokes in the actual teasing and these massive clearly white singing vanilla ice yeah let's rock. We all know it's Cronk little Wayne got unmasked. It was the robot pretty good stuff but 36 777-1600 if you wanted on today showed on Twitter at sports of dryad if you'd like to chime in that way we'll talk about UNCG basketball and the Duke North Carolina rivalry with Wes Miller next Josh Graham serves up the sports away. Jos� can serve as it's gonna be messy.

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Tomorrow it's going to be the head coach of the Greensboro swarm Joe Wolf and played with Michael Jordan Way back when Eric Montross this week.

Crispus Ola John Swofford, former Tar Heel A.D. the Commissioner of the Atlantic Coast conference were now being joined by UNCG head basketball coach Wes Miller who of course was on one of Roy Williams, early Tar Heel teams a little over a decade ago the Spartans a really good team this year as we've covered tough week and when you look at the result East Tennessee State beating the Spartans 8265 W. before we get into the rivalry days back when you were playing. I look at this weekend and I see that you guys signed top 150 player.

According to rivals the first time in UNCG history met Dean Solomon became the all-time leading scorer in UNCG women's basketball history and also James Dickey. He jumped the second in the career rebounding's list so I guess all things considered historically not a bad weekend to be a Spartan. How do you kind of put those things together today coach.

It will take our our revolt in the roadway said what other great stuff going on that UNCG is not just athletically dish this great stuff going on over the community so were were really proud and overly proud of things that are going on over here. I'm certainly really proud of the guys in my program what they're doing and got graduated what they're doing. Plan professionally God moved on and other career so that the lot of pride. As you mentioned, but we want to get back in the win column. So hopefully we can have more success in that area this week and that top 150 signing Gerrit Tinsley is going to be a Spartan.

He assigned is the first top 150 recruit to go to UNCG on your watch.

Does the silicon have an even stronger case you think this year to have two bids that even a year ago because of course we know you guys were the first team left out of the field of 64, 68, however you depend a look at it but this year, you lose the East Tennessee State but you beat them earlier in the year. Furman is tough as we know Saul Wofford beat North Carolina in Chapel Hill. Obviously that team is still a very strong unit even with Mike Young being in Blacksburg. How do you kind of look at the case for two bid so calm this time. I think that we may be that it ever been.

Certainly the lead the league been trending upward. You know the last four years. Every year it seems to be a better league in terms of the amount of really competitive teams nationally that the depth of the league and I don't think we have a team like Wofford last year you Wofford ran the table in conference play won three games in a copper star they went 20 10 in our league and I think that Put us in a different place with a chance to get a second team all think we have a team that dominant but the depth of the league is even better this year than it was last year and would apprise me at the end of the year there's 34 teams in the league better is good is all that the things that are get in at the bottom of the at-large bid there in the bicarbonate whether or not the committee does that are not your get mine I don't know how the numbers will shake out the ranking system but I do think we have more quality teams in our league this year from top to bottom that we never had its UNCG head basketball coach Wes Miller with this year's courts of dryad three consecutive home games for the Spartan starting Wednesday night against the Citadel Sunday.

It's good to be Sanford coming to town.

Then next week, coach Prosser and Western Carolina will be visiting the Spartans and Greensboro. That's next Wednesday night, but going back to your playing days. It is North Carolina Duke on Saturday.

We already see the graphic plastered all over the place where the last 100 meetings have been split 50-50 and both teams have scored the same amount of points in those 100 games combined. What's the best story as a player who's been involved in it either surrounding the rivalry are actually playing in the games that sticks out to you. Looking back, while you know, probably a cop. I don't think there's any one thing that jumps off the page. To me, but you not think everybody you asked that question to the excellent of both programs over such a long period of time sustained excellence of both programs and then you have the proximity being 8 miles away. There's just nothing like it in sports and it's kind of surreal when your client are your part of the game you know what it is you grow up hearing about a girl watching it.

All that matter what your from the state of North Carolina or not you know. Anywhere you know in the world you know and you even you know what college basketball is you know what you Carolina is in all the sudden you're kind of in the middle of it and it is just, surreal awning, the whole sports world stops, you know, just for 24 hours and it feels like it focuses in just don't Carolina do cannot think of anything like it. Certainly, college basketball, and it's pretty unique, even worse, visiting locker room and Cameron. It's small, it's been described as a dump by a lot of visiting coaches and players, but how great is that condensed space when you win in that place. The way you got back in 2006 will only college basketball now almost 2 decades every visiting locker rooms pretty great when you went that once probably the top of the mountain just because you know generally when you plate Duke.

There you know it. Top 10 cream in the nation. We one thereby junior year that not that people remember what year that is. But it was Tyler Hansbrough's freshman year green Bobby Frazier Marcus in your look at refreshment Duke with number one in the country and JJ Reddick with a senior in the player the year in college basketball. We went in there and one on on on his senior night Sheldon Williamson unite and that's probably one of the more fun locker part of it up in a part of a lot of pretty good something.

I was one of the West. The celebrations found in the interim. When you get back to campus or if you went in Chapel Hill when you're celebrating after the fact. What exactly do you do while you know People are where the Carolina people generally storm on Franklin Street.

Everybody discounted rent on the street for a big celebration. Players do to will so we you know what I don't know if you don't know what other where pretty strange. Bonsall back in 3006 also, we were driving back from Durham and I know we got off the bus and we knew people were all the way up there having fun and I don't want to try this right after Franklin Street in the Smith Center staff because by the time we got there gone. We got to celebrate a lot celebration on Franklin Street when later on this week, preferably two coats and I'm sure the group taxes going to be hopping on Saturday night.

Thank you for doing this yet think you have made always just you got it. That is Wes Miller UNCG head basketball coach and if you miss any of our guest today, or any of the content that we have the best of podcasts is on SoundCloud iTunes podcast Google play.

Always good to catch up with him there to be an action Wednesday night and then on Sunday, as I mentioned a gallon shifting back to the Super Bowl.

We talked about the halftime show.

We haven't had a chance to talk about the commercials in Super Bowl LIV. Robert how many people were you watching the Super Bowl with primarily 20 or 30, there is a ton of people over to our house. Do you enjoy larger Super Bowl parties or do you like it better when there's maybe two or three people if that love the parties because it's always people you rarely get to see any game is not even such a big deal for me.

I'm to see the highlights. I'm getting here is that good stuff to happen to see the commercials a million times and your point. I haven't seen a lot of these commercials. I like talking to the people at these parties to the people.

What was the biggest reaction from a commercial they really did not like the newcomers.

Although I hated it. I hated the one mighty old dude and Loretta yeah yeah I didn't even watch it when it first started. Everybody was so quick racing to the Internet to say how great that ad was and I'm gonna cry watching this commercial is what I got us into Google leap off leave off Google the others I got I got two things to say to you one.

I know what you're doing right I'm saying the same thing to you that I said to the folks who created a dog's purpose that movie that you just want to channel some of that Marley and me.

Energy gets people crying about dead dogs. Yeah I know what you're doing.

A dog's purpose.

I don't like it, leap off, you're the worst Google doing the same thing with have an old guy with dementia, talking about his wife, which leave me the number two there's no chance in hell that he knows how to work the computer no way zero chance that he's that proficient that he's talking to Google is talking to the computer. He has no clue. I worked that thing.

That's what I commercials not believable and also leap off Google's VCR is still flashing 12. If you do doesn't know how to work the tile are worth the 12. The other one that upset my dad was the stains can wait. He was so perturbed by early day.

I love Charlie day, but those commercials were kind of just wasn't good to me. Yeah I love the Mountain Dew. Bryan Cranston shining at all. Yes, with my off of Brian Kranz know though yes when Anthony Anderson, the woman when he knocks the door down all yeah she is also a Flaccus. I didn't know how to watch the show very good show. So yeah that's pretty good, especially when you have the famous scene with the blood coming out of the elevator and it's all Mountain Dew straining and all that's great. The twin spaces was Brian Kranz assays was great.

You are listening to W STS Winston-Salem W COD Greensboro WPC in Burlington W MFR Highpoint does signal makeup sport, subtract will get crazy in 30 minutes, which I'm sure is going to be crazy. The day after the Super Bowl we got Darren can't who is just getting back to the state of North Carolina from Miami next hour. He is our states Hall of Fame voter Pro football Hall of Fame voter.

So look forward to chatting with him. Let's see what's going on though in the big headlines of the dam. What we call fittingly the big 44 number four on the big this just in the Atlanta Falcons are going to offer free agent Vic Beasley a new contract with being the former Clemson defensive end is going to be on the market for the Carolina Panthers make a move on Carolinas guy two states, one team, it does seem like that he was underutilized. They started drafting a lot of layers to kind of accident Beasley or maybe even the other way around Beasley accenting him him McKinley comes to mind immediately pass rusher the Panthers they will assign Bruce Irvin to a one year deal. So in my mind. I think Vic Beasley is a top grade Irvin Carolinas guy motivated to play the Atlanta Falcons twice a year. I would love if Carolina just said Yep were going to go after that guy and assume he's motivated to take on his former team a couple times a year. Robert what you think Vic Beasley be on the market is definitely like you said he did up in a crowded position room in Atlanta and it would be a good get you not bring it back for another year potentially be a dude Falcons. They finished high for 29th in the league in terms of sax they had 28 on the year Beasley sat led Atlanta number three on the big four.

We've got Super Bowl LV today. They had the transition where they passed along the Super Bowl range from Miami next year.

Site Tampa, Florida. The ready for this hearing. Gabriel the sheaves are your favorite 7 to 1 to win that year right behind them. San Francisco and Baltimore with 81 you want to take a guess who has the worst to win next year. Super Bowl. No I'm sorry it's not Carolina who has 100 to 1 is only one team worst on know that actually 30 to 1. People like Cleveland. I'm just little tell you it is. How about that the Washington Redskins with 200 to 1 win Super Bowl LV I'd hammer the Chiefs right now are you going to get anything better than 7 to 1 of the teams there about things for the next five years. Excellent three very important categories. Quarterback coach organization in the organization for often gets forgotten but it's rare that you see teams, even if they're talented with poor ownership in a poor front office, go to the playoffs and back to back you looking Houston have so much talent and ability Bryant's time with Houston. Despite DeShawn Watson being there. They haven't gotten past second round.

How about the Los Angeles charger. They were old Levin and five in the 2018 season this year. Don't make the playoffs are still extending Anthony Lane, which I found to be interesting that stand cranky and that's a team to be held back, knowing that Dean Spano's other LA team that the other LA owner owns the LA charter stand cranky and the Rams.

That's another one that doesn't get talked about as much. They moved out of St. Louis and have that great year with Sean McVeigh now look where they're at. No draft picks running back with tendinitis in his knees and not a very bright future outlook when it comes to the ransom. We often forget about the organizational organizational climate teams have a great organization. The Hunt family got a great general manager you got Andy Reid you got The homes youngest quarterback to win Super Bowl MVP. I don't think anybody in the AFC is gonna be in their ballpark and it is a good break that they are in the AFC versus the NSC where you have a sophomore Jackson all the other young quarterbacks in decent spot. Russell Wilson still relatively young Jack Prescott Carson went decent roster. I think I'd rather be in the AFC. Then the NSC number two on the big four.

The Hornets and heels are back in action tonight only a two day break. The Tar Heels will be playing number eight Florida State in Tallahassee later on. Meanwhile, Charlotte Hornets are hosting the Orlando Magic has that ever been an interesting that I said before that when Charlotte plays Washington. That game is never been interesting.

One time I think Charlotte has had interesting games with Orlando because wasn't that the team Charlotte played when they made the playoffs.

The one time as the bobcats bobcats made the playoffs one time was not against the Orlando Magic when they had those runs to the NBA finals white Howard glue JJ Reddick and friends. I think it does check out Aaron what you more intrigued a lot Orlando Charlotte or Florida State, North Carolina between taking out the transfer doing this well which one is worse. This is a track. This is is worth for state the dishes are worse than the trash you know it definitely is because one requires you to get up after they both require you to get one done with after maybe 30 seconds to a minute and oversee service with what is the most tedious for you because yes I hate folding clothes and what I got that one like how long do you keep it in the hamper man. I got close to hear before you talk about damper that had never been on got probably a clean). I know all my guys just trying to find the magic socks brutal Robert strike me as somebody who folds up and hangs there close with regularity not have like a chair in the corner of my room that I can't just throw all the Queen things on and rummage through that.

I know when a page or two. Yeah, I know my room is hot enough to hang anything up.

How do you decide what you're going to wear a certain day because Robert looking at you today. This is exactly the greatest ensemble work in radio and at its core.

I really don't about what anybody works out. I don't think any L&H maybe DJ me he's not alone record. Yeah, I am not a homer will take what we became best friends with this issue. I think were all very aligned on the big four today. A man is arrested for trying to pay a prostitute with a hamburger one, hamburger with cheese there was cheese on it and then I know where the hamburger was from me to calculate with five guys that I got $30 hamburger, it's a valid point.

This is where the story gets stranger in my opinion it happens in Albuquerque, which surprises me because I thought with the timing of this headline and how the Sexton entertainment industry tends to flock to the Super Bowl regardless of where this would be something you saw in Miami. I was surprised to see Albuquerque but the guys name is Dominic Calderon 36 years old and he solicited sex with from a undercover police officer and the officer was just trying to get to try to turn elicited like that they would can I help you.

Is there anything I can do for you, so they agreed on a price. Calderon said he couldn't pay it because he didn't get paid for this job till Friday, restless guy so bad right.

He then asked for her phone number so we could enjoy services later. Apparently, the officer noticed that Calderon was carrying a bag from Charlize all my daughter that it was a hamburger at that point the officer that her fee could be the burger instead of the cat so was the officer's idea not hear border border, where I will start to go fund me for this man was trying to get out of their trip.

I was story, but I know I can tell it is not about me eliciting you act now you got together to tell the story. Think of something LK so me and my brother went to a bar wants for his birthday. He was 20 years old and I told him that I would we looks very similar. So I gave him my ID to get in with my buddies. My work in the door so we were able to get in. No big deal. It was like, I'll buy the drinks. Don't worry, we don't we will handle it. He's a clunk I Thursday now when water so he walks of the barn is like hey can I get a water geyser will appears only a dollar is okay when you have a beer anything let me see your ID and my brother drunkenly hands him the ID and it EK catches the music that site that's not you that's your brother, but like he just won a water this dude saw him the bear yeah you got got you got got chilis burgers the strangest detail here.

Why are you getting a chilis burger to go.

I don't know man maybe wanted to feel bad home rather than filling but they are getting chilis to always already crime in its own right. Yeah why are you doing that. And if you're getting chilis to go. Why get something that you could get quicker at so many other places and there's no way you can justify that burger be in good later I was having a hard time downloading showings to go through this lady like I have the money I can't. I can't buy this right now is somewhat offered me a kiss for hamburger day's my BU burger up next trying to find a comp for Pat Holmes and added historical significance to Super Bowl LIV. Keep it on the truck you will hear some great sports talk.

Well, here it is dry when Josh Graham going to dental Fox sports Hall triad.

That's how it sounded right here in sports of dryad last night. Kevin Harlan on the call and I just felt good for that guy who was named the national sportscaster of the year for the second time in three years will be recognized in Winston-Salem this summer. Once upon a time, Harlan, was the radio voice of the Kansas City Chiefs. He lives in Kansas City. I sent him a text last night and it was a really cool moment for him also permits hold. This is been a long time voice of the Chiefs's role as well. It probably would've been maximum cool if Green Bay had found a way to beat San Francisco would get the game because one of the best radio play-by-play men out there other than Harlan is. Wayne Larrabee, who is the voice of the Green Bay Packers, who at one time you guessed it was the radio voice of the Kansas City Chiefs.

So that would've covered the last 42 years of Chiefs football radio broadcasters hold this except that the reins from Harlan and Harlan took the reins over from Wayne Larrabee but Kansas City in the Super Bowl for the first time in 50 years wins it. Having us thinking about the times and Super Bowl for where Lynn Dawson smoking a cigarette at halftime, giving us a famous image and you have Hank Stram telling his team to matriculate ball down the field. Boys, the man called that game on television in 19 1970 was Jack Buck and his son Joe, of course, called the game for Fox last night so really cool deeper nuggets when it comes to the significance historically of Kansas City beating San Francisco last night and the NFL's 100 season and 54 Super Bowl takes are welcome. That's it right now at 336-777-1600 its segment we call let's get crazy. I want to change things up a little bit. Robert J that's not going to change throwing away journalistic responsibility and integrity just for a 10 minute stretch. That's remaining the same to what instead of the hip-hop air award which we use every single time playing this game awarding the listeners with that I instead want this to be the sound you hear when a hot take is delivered. It only seems right, and I'm gonna start us off.

I was yes familiar with the Super Bowl hangover the LA Rams not make the playoffs this year. Well, to get the San Francisco 49ers to San Fran not to make the playoffs next year. The pressure is going to be on Kyle Shanahan. After blowing another Super Bowl pressure is going to be on Jimmy garrotte below after he was exposed in a sense in those final 10 minutes. People were going to prepare for all that pre-snap motion all off-season have a target on their back and there in a good division that had two other teams with winning records. Seattle going to find a way to unseat San Francisco in the Niners are not going to get a wildcard spot. San Fran in the Super Bowl before but not in the playoffs in 2021. Robert, let's get crazy you guys.

Bashar Breland had a pretty good game last night when you say former Carolina Panthers greatly separate wasn't because he failed his physical 2018 and I'm to say if he would not have done that. The Panthers have gone to the Super Bowl. I've never heard of a corner making that you made a big one with me when he did not sign with the Panthers. Not a fan of them talked about this. We have either a pounding. There always doing them. Keep how do you always count 160 white guy, Erin, let's get crazy.

GMC has plans unveiled its unlit truth Homer in May now is watch the ad and expecting Tesla to pop up during the Super Bowl is like a sugar frequent nobody will strangest get out of here. Have you ever had a significantly absolute smart that one that I knew was going to hit this week that I was six and two in the bet one of the two I missed was the actual game with the 49ers. I bet on them to be Kansas City that the exactly happened.

As we all know Zion Williamson points and rebounds more than the completion Jimmy G.

Zion had 15 and seven in the first half finished with 21 and really play that well against Houston. This guy Zion is going to lead the NBA in scoring next season.

The office is just for man. I don't know how you stop it.

Once he catches it download it's all wrapped. What's mattering is the same thing that mattered at Spartanburg today and it mattering just as much in the NBA conquers a good defender Zion is just working please playing center.

I don't know who's able to gourd him fill.

I think these next couple weeks next couple of months. It's good because learning what science capable of doing. There been a further move things around him the next season. I think if he catches the ball down low with a lineup that forces teams to guard him with one man that's going to be prolific Zion that only the NBA in scoring you get a chance to figure that out. The liquid books tomorrow on its claim against hope so. From 1130 tomorrow night, Robert. Let's get crazy ex FAO kicks off this weekend.

I may go ahead and make a huge prediction. This radio station is a white don't support some kind of Susan raw dad. I was to be the Houston soft next is the Dallas renegade when the exile nailed Bob's way like Bob's stupid like that one, the renegades and when the SFL championship Whisenhunt favorite. Next, the secure, I got Kansas City to win the great take Robert Aaron, let's get crazy last night did two things made incurs and also the predictive history of this is over. That's right, I more than made incurs the thing. It's over this kaput. I like to hear that Lamar Jackson is about to be on the cover of mad next year compatible homes did work for Toby.

Brian is not just to be on the cover of NBA 2K's can be on the cover Matt into all reasons okay that is terrible. It might take about the renegades that that is just as bad not to say that is good. Bill Madden versus the favorite, winning the high side doesn't mean that it's not bad to the point of the segment.

No tangible hot today tangible right so it doesn't happen you to buy Matt deal well. The were not supposed to be founded by these takes and excited to play the new med yes Eric you have anything to close us out with gritty the Philadelphia mascots flyer, flyers, mascots, home was cleared of all charges. If you remember he was a list to have placed a small child in all that clear of all charges but new charges brought up against gritty because we'll find out. This dude is a meeting just in Philadelphia. It is called controlled all say he's getting get me to graze the one who threw the snowball with the battery in Philly while hello Matt, I don't know how to talk about this next story I really don't so you will do it. I think we don't want to go you know I so see sports they just reported actually be a really good tease right.

The story is I need more time to think about if we could actually talk about this. You guys don't want to do it.

No snow. We will do it anyway next


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