A COVID Treatment to Save Your Life and the Gospel to Save Your Soul

A COVID treatment to save your life and the gospel to save your soul. That is a topic we'll discuss today right here on the Christian worldview radio program, where the mission is to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christians and to share the good news of Jesus Christ. I'm David Wheaton, the host, and our website is theChristianrealview.org.

Thanks for joining us today in the program, and thanks to all of you who support the ministry of the Christian worldview. Do you sense the level of pressure and propaganda from all sectors of society, whether government or news agencies or corporations, or even celebrities, to get the COVID-19 vaccine? The message is this, get the vaccine while you can and you'll be safe and life will go back to normal. In fact, the pressure to get the vaccine is becoming so strong that a so-called vaccine passport is being suggested so that those who have received the vaccine will receive a card that will allow them to move freely in society, while those who haven't received the vaccine or don't want the vaccine will be restricted from doing certain things like flying on airplanes or going to events and innumerable other things that you could probably not even imagine right now. So while the vaccine and masks and physical distancing and lockdowns is the primary focus of government with regards to COVID-19, actual treatment of those who get the virus is hardly even mentioned.

Have you noticed that? So this weekend on the Christian worldview, Dr. Peter McCullough, medical doctor, a practicing internist, cardiologist, and professor of medicine, and a national leader in the medical response to COVID-19 joins us to discuss critically important early treatment measures if you do get the virus. Also, Twyla Brace, later in the program, registered nurse and president of Citizens Council for Health Freedom, joins us to discuss this Orwellian vaccine passport that is being suggested by government and likely to be implemented by corporations. So let me start out with a question. Why do Christians proclaim the gospel? And the answer is pretty clear, because we all as sinners are in danger of eternal damnation if we don't get right with God before we die on his terms. And we have this message of the gospel, the good news about Jesus Christ, that can save souls.

It's the most important message. I was reading in Romans 4 recently where it says, starting in verse 4, Now to the one who works, works for their salvation, or trusts in their good works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in him, who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness. Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven, and whose sins have been covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.

And there's the good news. In other words, we've sinned, we are at odds with God, we're alienated from him, we are under his judgment if we don't get right with him on his terms. And so this is the biggest, most important message in the world. We're sinners. God is going to judge us.

How can we be right with God? Well, here comes the good news of Jesus Christ, Romans 5, Therefore, having been justified by faith, not good works, but by faith alone in Christ alone, we can have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we exalt in hope of the glory of God. In this message of the gospel of salvation is the Christian's great hope. And this is why we share it, because it's the best news to explain to someone how they can be rescued or saved from God's wrath on them. There's no more better or important news than that.

And if you have not ever put your faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior and your Lord, confessed your sin to God, and put your faith, your trust, not in your own supposed good works to be right with God, but in Christ's work on the cross on your behalf, that he died for your sins, and then rose victoriously over it so that we serve a living Savior today, do so today. Now that is the most important news, spiritual news, and that's why we share it with others. If you had other kinds of news, news that could help people reduce their chance of dying, not just spiritually, but through dying physically from COVID, wouldn't you want to tell others about that?

Of course you would. And so that is what the program is dedicated to today. But let me just give a little backstory on why we're doing this program. My parents, whom some of you know personally, but probably many of you know through listening to our annual interview with them around Mother's Day or Father's Day in the program, got COVID-19 about oh, I'd say four to six weeks ago. And they were tested for it and tested positive for COVID-19. My dad is 89. My mom is 87. They are in a very high risk group for death from COVID-19.

My older brother, Mark, who is a medical doctor specializing in chronic pain here in the Twin Cities area, went to the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons website where they put him in touch with Dr. Peter McCullough. My brother knew that we can't just sit around and wait to see how this virus is going to take hold of our elderly parents. And they were struggling. We were praying for them. But through the counsel of our guest today, Dr. Peter McCullough, to my brother, they were given and followed this early treatment protocol for COVID, which was a combination of some drugs and supplements. And I'm very thankful and happy to report to you that by God's grace, my parents were able to overcome COVID-19 and are now doing very well today. So that's why we're doing the program. What worked for my elderly parents can also work for you or your elderly parents. We're not giving guaranteed medical advice.

Please know that. But I'm sharing with you what helped us. The government and media aren't making this known, but we will today in the program. So let's get straight to the interview. Dr. McCullough, thank you for coming on the Christian Royal View radio program today. Let's get into that guide that you are the editor for. It's entitled A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment Step-by-Step Doctor's Plan That Could Save Your Life. You're the consulting editor for that. This is an educational research from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. Their website is aapsonline.org.

And we also have it linked on our website, thechristianrealview.org as well. I'm just going to read a paragraph or two from that and ask some questions, follow up questions. It says in the guide that the vast majority of deaths from this COVID virus occur in those 75 years old and older with most of those already sick with other illnesses. A large percentage are nursing care facilities over 80 years old and with an average of 2.5 other medical conditions such as obesity, diabetes, heart disease, lung and or kidney disease. The chances of someone under 50 years old with symptoms dying from COVID-19 is 0.05%.

To put it another way, approximately 99.9% of individuals who contract COVID will have mild to moderate symptoms and recover just like with the flu. The majority of deaths are coming from the 0.62% of the population who are in nursing home facilities. Dr. McCullough, could you explain those numbers a bit further and what they mean for the person listening?

Thanks for having me on the show. And these are my own opinions and not those of my institutions. The illness is survivable in obviously the vast majority of individuals. Now, there are two bad outcomes. One is hospitalization and the other one is death. And most patients or most people I've ever talked to, they want to avoid the hospital as well. Vast majority of deaths occur in the hospital. So the hospital doesn't save all the patients. So there's some important concepts. The first one is patients over age 50 start to have rates of death and hospitalization more than 1%.

Once we're less than 1%, it becomes an imperceptible impact. So patients below age 50 without medical problems, most experts agree they don't need any treatment. But once individuals are over age 50 or with medical problems or who present with severe symptoms, those patients should get outpatient treatment to avoid two bad outcomes, hospitalization and death. Dr. Peter McCullough joins us today on the Christian Worldview Radio Program.

He's a practicing internist, cardiologist, and the professor of medicine at Texas A&M College of Medicine at their Dallas campus. You say in the guide, this virus looks and acts very much like the flu, but with one caveat. Unlike the usual seasonal influenza, COVID-19 illness can become profoundly serious in unpredictable ways. COVID-19 can very rapidly become critical illness for two primary reasons. This virus triggers two responses in the body much worse than seasonal flu. An exaggerated inflammatory response causing damage to critical organs and an exaggerated blood clotting response leading to multiple blood clots in the lungs, brain and other organs.

Talk more, Dr. McCullough, about these stages and why early treatment, home treatment as you write about in your guide, is critical. It's way more contagious than the flu. And they sit at home typically for two weeks before they're sick enough to come into the hospital. It's way different than flu.

And then when patients are hospitalized, if they receive no treatment at home, they have no chance of preventing hospitalization. Once they're hospitalized, then what happens is there's a turn on of the immune system called cytokine storm. It causes very high fevers. It causes changes in the lungs that we can see on CT scan and causes changes in the bloodstream.

And it's tightly linked to the development of blood clotting. So in the end, when patients die of COVID, the virus is long gone. And there's no secondary infection. There's no staphylococcal pneumonia or no superimposed infection. They die straight up of an internal blood clotting problem.

Micro blood clots in the lungs, major blood clots go into the brains, blood clots in the major veins in the body. So it's very much a blood clotting death that happens with COVID-19. And given that situation, our treatment is way different than the flu. So we treat COVID-19 early on with drugs to reduce the viral replication. We use steroids and colchicine to handle the immune system. And then we use blood thinners. And it takes all three dimensions to be treated for a patient to be saved from COVID-19. And that's true whether they're outpatient or inpatient.

And that's what I want to get into now. Dr. Peter McCullough with us today here on the Christian Royal View radio program. It says in the guide that you had to consult your primary physician with the first onset of COVID-19 symptoms, flu-like symptoms, fever, shortness of breath, difficulty of breathing, pressure in your chest, and severe cough. The most important reason to contact your physician right away is that studies show early treatment is the key to success with COVID. Early treatment is especially critical for people at high risk, which you say the older population. And you also say to keep a journal of your symptoms. This early treatment protocol that you and the consortium of doctors recommend, which is from the guide, I'll just summarize it, good hygiene, getting sunlight, getting fresh air, lots of fluids, healthy food, immune boosting vitamins and minerals, vitamin D, vitamin C, zinc, and others. And then you mentioned some of the medications as well.

You can explain those too. How much of those things should people be taking to boost their immune system? And what if their primary physician doesn't think along the same lines, has more of the regular NIH way of thinking about this virus?

You just wait till it gets bad, then you go to the hospital. We knew early on from Wuhan, and we knew from Milan, Italy, and New York. We learned from those three cities, by the way, which are very similar.

They're very vertical cities. They have lots of skyscrapers, lots of high rise apartments and condominiums that the virus loves to have nice closed in small spaces. And it's known that the virus is transmitted largely by the air. It's not really transmitted by touching people's hands, even though there's been a huge emphasis on hand sanitizers.

That's been fairly misguided. It's transmitted through the air. And if someone has the virus, and if you could actually make the virus be dyed green, you would have an entire room full of green smoke. It would be like smoky green air in your room with the virus. And so what happens is when patients go to these small closed in rooms and high rises apartments and elevators, all they do is rebreathe that air over and over again. And there were some early studies showing that the room fills up with the virus, that literally the air is holding the virus up for several hours.

And so that explains why people walk into a public restroom. They breathe in some of the air and boom, they get COVID. Little small spaces that are poorly ventilated. So what we tell patients is to say, listen, instead of rebreathing that virus in and keep reloading yourself with the virus, open the windows, get outside, front porch, back porch. As long as you're away from people, let the wind kind of blow off that virus so you're breathing less contaminated air. When someone gets sick with COVID-19, the last thing we want to do is have them stay in their house and then put on a mask and then just keep breathing the virus back into their lungs. So I published an op-ed early on in The Hill last year, trying to explain that to the public, saying, listen, fresh air is your friend. We've used it for all viral infections in the past, including mumps and chickenpox.

Get fresh air. Now it's been shown that deficiencies in a whole variety of vitamins lead to worse outcomes in COVID-19. And so it makes sense to be fully fortified with vitamins and micronutrients. So vitamin D, vitamin C, zinc, curcetin, which is a polyphenol substance.

Those are in what's called the nutraceutical bundle. Now, do they cure COVID-19? No. Do they prevent COVID-19?

Probably not. But if you get it, they're going to make you more likely to hopefully ride through the illness without having serious complications. The best resource to go is to go to AAPSonline.org. That is the go-to website. It's got the home patient treatment guide that's been used over 500,000 times. It has a list of treating doctors in every state and also has the telemedicine services. So a patient ahead of time ought to call their primary care doctor and ask them, are you treating COVID patients? And if they say no, say, do you have a local referral? So I can know if I get COVID-19 what to do. And hopefully they'll give a local referral. Almost every major city has several treating centers and doctors to refer to. If the answer is no, I don't treat COVID-19 and I don't have any place to refer you, then the patient should be ready to go to one of the telemedicine services out there. And they're listed in the back of the COVID guide.

Okay. And again, that website is AAPSonline.org, where you can read this guide to home-based COVID treatment that our guest today, Dr. Peter McCullough, was the editor for. We also have the guide linked at our homepage of thechristianworldview.org. The Christian Worldview with David Wheaton returns in just a moment.

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Be sure to visit our website thechristianworldview.org where you can subscribe to our free weekly email and annual print newsletter, order resources for adults and children, and support the ministry. Now, back to today's program with host, David Wheaton. Let's read one more short paragraph from that guide. You say, the unique kinds of damage from the COVID virus mean that we must use a combination of prescription medicines, now we're going beyond supplements, but prescription medicines rapidly to block these dangerous effects. The use of prescription medications discussed in this guide should be considered clinically indicated, medically necessary, and appropriate off-label use of these products.

And you just have a few bullets here. Combination, antiviral medicines starting as soon as symptoms occur. Number two, medicines to decrease inflammation.

You mentioned that earlier. Number three, anticoagulant therapy to prevent blood clots that can cause strokes and heart attacks and more. Number four, non-prescription supportive treatments with zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C. You mentioned that. And the fifth one is home-based, even oxygen support, such as with an oxygen concentrator. So educate us a little more on some of those bullet points of actually using medications early on in treatment of COVID.

So here's the action plan. So age over 50 or with medical problems or presenting with severe symptoms, those patients need treatment. So the nutraceutical bundle we've covered. The next thing the patient should ask for is to be referred for an antibody infusion. So there are FDA EUA approved, not FDA medically approved, but emergency approved antibody infusions. One is still remaining on the market.

It's by Regeneron. It's a combination of two antibodies. They are available at emergency rooms all over the United States. And it simply takes a doctor's phone call. The cost of this is covered by the U.S. government. So the first thing patients should ask for is an antibody infusion.

This is what President Trump had, Rudy Giuliani. I use it every day in my practice. It's a simple phone call. Patients will typically get a time slot. They go into the emergency room and they get an antibody infusion.

So that's a great start. Then after that, we move into the oral drugs. Now a lot of times patients can't get the antibody infusion or they just don't have access to it.

We're going to rely on the oral drugs heavily here. But even those with the antibody infusions who have severe symptoms, we go ahead and use the oral drugs. They include hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin as two of our intracellular anti-infectives combined with either azithromycin or doxycycline. Those are antibiotics that also work inside cells. And together these drugs work in combination to reduce the replication of the virus.

They also work to reduce some bacterial component of infection in the sinuses and in the throat. So it would be common to have these drugs in a pair prescribed. Now on day five are pulmonary symptoms. We can use steroids. Prednisone is fine. We use that in asthma all the time. There's now an inhaled steroid called budesonide that we use from the start called Pulmicort. In doctors, that's an easy prescription covered by insurance. And then we add a medicine called colchicine or a gout medicine.

And we start, we run that through for 30 days. Each one of these components reduces the risk of hospitalization and death. For blood thinning, all the patients should receive aspirin, not a baby, but a full dose, 325 milligrams. And then patients who are heart or lung disease, prior cancer, all those patients I go ahead and put on either Lobonox injections or an oral blood thinning drug called Apixaban or one of its relatives. So it takes about four to six drugs.

The package in general costs less than $40 generic, or they can even use free coupons to get some of these for limited supply. We go as short as five days in easy cases. In seniors, people in senior homes, we may need to go 30 days of treatment. And that's what brings patients through the illness. This combination approach reduces hospitalization and death by 85% and shortens the duration of symptoms. It shortens how contagious someone is.

So this is really important. We get treatment started early. Patients are much less likely to spread it to others. Dr. Peter McCullough with us today on The Christian Worldview. And by the way, I know he just gave a lot of things to do there, medications and so forth. If you missed any of that, just go to our website.

We have the recording or the audio of this program there right now, thechristianworldview.org. If you need to hear again what he just said and that last answer about treatment protocol. Now, what you just said, Dr. McCullough, doesn't appear to me to be the mainstream recommendations like from the National Institute of Health, taking things like ivermectin and so forth. Why doesn't the mainstream medical community like Dr. Fauci and the NIH and so forth, World Health Organization, if I'm not mistaken, they're not advocating for that treatment protocol you just mentioned.

Why not? The National Institutes of Health, the CDC and the World Health Organization, they've had two major initiatives. One is to reduce the spread of illness by wearing masks and social distancing and lockdowns.

And the other has been mass vaccination. So neither one of those organizations has had much effort at all put on treatment. And if you notice, if you're ever watching the updates on the news, you don't need to hear about any treatments in the hospital or before the hospital. It's just treatment is really not on their radar screen. It makes a lot of sense because these organizations don't treat patients. The organizations that treat patients are doctors organizations like AAPS, for instance. AAPS is kind of the leading treatment organization. Having said that, there are treatment guidelines, one by the National Institutes of Health and one by the Infectious Disease Society of America, and they focus on inpatients. So they haven't really started to approach outpatients yet. So the treatment guide you mentioned by AAPS and based on the manuscripts that we published in the American Journal of Medicine, that really stands to fill the void on how outpatients are treated.

I think at some point in time when things settle down, the NIH and IDSA will address treatment of outpatients, but right now it's just a void in their public offering. Okay. And again, we have the guide linked at our website, thechristianrealview.org, along with other resources on the COVID-19. You mentioned two things in your last answer, Dr. McCullough, regarding masks and regarding the vaccine. Are masks, in your opinion, effective at protecting someone or protecting others from contracting the virus?

Maybe the vaccine deserves a question itself. So let's just start with masks. Well, keep in mind that despite all the efforts on masks and hand sanitizers, the viral epidemic looks like it has a mind of its own. And so almost paradoxically in the places that had the most severe lockdowns and the most severe restrictions had the worst overall brunt of COVID-19.

Masks could play a role. It's pretty clear the rates of influenza are way down, so they're doing something. Doctors in hospitals wearing masks and dental offices, I think it makes sense. We haven't had any major outbreaks among doctors, no major outbreaks in dental offices, no major outbreaks in physical therapy centers or what have you. The major outbreaks have occurred in factories or some of these other settings.

But fortunately, the schools have had no major outbreaks as well as the physician offices. So I think masks play a role if people properly wear them. I think in medicine, I know I wear a mask every day. I think in medicine, we're probably going to be wearing these the rest of our careers. Now, are masks the same as treatment?

No. And we should never have emphasized masks and de-emphasized treatment. So every time we have a TV segment on masks, I think we should replace that by information on treatment because we have, even at our low level right now, we still have 45 to 60,000 patients getting sick every day and masks don't help those people.

What helps them is their knowledge about treatment. Let's get into the vaccine just the last couple of questions for you. Is the vaccine actually a vaccine or is it, as I've heard, a gene therapy technology? Maybe explain that and then whether you actually recommend people get this vaccine. I published an op-ed in The Hill last summer and the title of the paper was called The Great Gamble of the COVID-19 Vaccine. This is before these were released and before we knew the results of the vaccine trials, but it became very clear that in the United States and even worldwide, we put all of our resources into vaccine development and we really took away resources from treatment.

We have not focused on treating sick patients at all and so there hasn't been really any effort on research and development of oral drugs or other products to help people. This has been a gamble we took and in my view, the public health officials in our country and the National Institutes of Health gambled away hundreds of thousands of lives for this vaccine. What we have is we have the messenger RNA vaccines.

You'll know them by their manufacturers, Pfizer and BioNTech make one and then Moderna makes the other. The first thing to know about this is that these were developed with government support, large amounts of government dollars and the U.S. government through the National Institutes of Health co-owns the patent for the Moderna vaccine. U.S. government stakeholders FDA, NIH, CDC, they have an investment in the vaccine and they have in a sense a conflict of interest in the vaccine.

I think the public should be aware of that. The messenger RNA vaccines are manufactured, so they are manufactured RNA, ribonucleotide genetic material that is in a liposome, it's in a lipid particle surrounded by polyethylene glycol. Polyethylene glycol is what's used in radiator fluid. Anybody who has a sensitivity to polyethylene glycol, those have had cosmetic injections, et cetera, they should be wary of the messenger RNA vaccines. These vaccines code for just the spike protein on the virus. The spike protein is a little spiky spicule on the surface of the virus.

The virus is like a big beach ball. It just codes for the spike protein only. The messenger RNA gets injected under your skin and that goes into the cells of your body.

Then the cells of the body produce the spike protein. Your cells are actually tricked into producing the spike protein and then your body reacts against the spike protein to produce the immune response, both the antibody and cellular immune response. That's how the messenger RNA vaccines work. We've never had messenger RNA vaccines ever before in the history of medicine, so they are brand new. The other vaccines on the market, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, that's considered an adenoviral vector vaccine, so that is a recombinant piece of DNA that's put into a known virus that is grown up from human cells and that virus cannot create illness, but it effectively gets into your body and then that delivers that DNA, that goes into your cells, then your cells transcribe the RNA for the spike protein, and again, your body has temporarily produced the spike protein. Those are the vaccines available in the United States, so they all work by producing the same spike protein in everybody for a few days and then your body responds to it. The first thing you think of is, well, wait a minute, doesn't that give everybody the exact same immunity?

The answer is, it is true. Everybody gets the vaccine in the United States and in a sense is an immune clone of one another. It's different than the natural immunity because natural immunity, we've always had a blend of six to eight different strains of the virus. From person to person, the immunity is different and it has heterogeneity.

The second thing is natural immunity has immunity not only against the spike protein, but the nucleocapsid, the enzymes, lipid envelope, so the natural immunity is both complete and durable. There's never been a legitimate second case of COVID-19, so once patients have COVID-19, they recovered, they literally can't get it again. It doesn't matter if you wear a mask or not or use hand sanitizers.

Nothing else matters. You're completely immune. With the vaccine, what we know in the clinical trials is the rates of getting COVID with placebo or with the vaccine were less than 1% for all the vaccine trials over two months. That means that COVID-19 is pretty rare in people who choose the vaccine and has a less than 1% impact. Whether somebody chooses the vaccine or not, it's going to have an imperceptible impact with very low attack rates less than 1%. That's what we know about the vaccine right now. On the beneficial side, it's a less than 1% benefit to anybody to begin with, so it's not a big deal if you get it or you don't get it.

On the safety side, that's a separate issue. There's been many safety concerns that have been raised with the vaccines. Dr. Peter McCullough is with us today in the Christian Real View.

Just last 60 seconds, what would be your parting thoughts, summary thoughts on our conversation today, your advice to those listening, trying to kind of wade through all the different messaging they're constantly hearing from all the different sources? My main message is that the top priority in this crisis is the sick patient. If we focus on sick patients, that's what the health care industry does. Doctors, nurses, other health care providers, focus on the sick patient.

Don't get distracted on lockdowns and other social issues and don't get distracted on the vaccine. Focus on sick patients. If we focus on sick patients, that's where we save lives and we avoid hospitalization. And we do that if we're able to treat patients at home, then we don't spread the infection anymore, we reduce the infectivity, and then patients are delivered to natural immunity. Natural immunity is both complete and durable. We could be filling up football stadiums and basketball stadiums and baseball parks with COVID-immune people.

The COVID-recovered patients cannot give it nor receive it. They are the safest people you can be around, these COVID-recovered patients. The patients who choose the vaccine, and the vaccine is fine for those who want to take the vaccine, is going to have less than a 1% public health impact. The vaccine is not 100% protective, so patients do get the infection after the vaccine.

And if they get the infection after the vaccine, they have to, again, think about early treatment to reduce hospitalization and death. Well, thank you so much, Dr. McCullough. We just will have a lot of listeners go read this guide, and they're going to be better informed after doing so. So thank you again for coming on the Christian Worldview, and all the best in your practice.

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I'd like to play some of the salient sound bites from this presentation he made in the state of Idaho and then get your follow-up comments. Here's Dr. Cole. Is there a treatment for outpatient COVID? Is there a treatment?

You know, unfortunately the three-letter federal government agencies have practiced therapeutic nihilism, apathy, complete apathy. No, gosh, if you get sick, go home. If your lips turn blue, then go to the hospital. If you can't breathe, go to the hospital. When in the history of medicine have we said to someone, well, gosh, you have pneumonia. But once you're sick enough to be hospitalized in the ICU, we'll give you an antibiotic for your pneumonia. Insanity, insanity. We as physicians have collectively lost our medical minds to say, well, gosh, yeah, you have an illness that we know is killing people around the world.

Why don't you just go home and see how you do? Insanity. The earlier you treat, the more complications you can decrease down the road.

And you know what? There's a treatment. Unfortunately, if there's a treatment for a disease, the federal government cannot approve a vaccine by law, by rule. So the NIH, who is involved in approving medications, they can hold the patent on the, quote, vaccine with Moderna. If the fox is not guarding the henhouse there, I don't know who is. That also is insanity to have the government in bed with a private company vending a product that they want to give to everybody.

What are your thoughts on that soundbite? I think it's so important for the public to understand how COVID-19 works. Because what's really clear, and it was shown in the US Senate hearing, this one diagram said it really simply. There's like this early stage where the virus is replicating and where the virus is vulnerable and where the virus hasn't done a whole lot yet to the body and where there is an opportunity to take action and stop it from getting to the other two stages. Because the second stage is called the cytokine storm. That's when the body essentially overreacts with antibodies in response to this overwhelming amount of COVID-19.

Then, if you don't catch it then, then it goes into the part where you move to blood clots, little blood clots all over the body. Of course, that just gets in the way of everything. That's very dangerous. This whole idea of just treating people, this is how it's always been. I think it's a crime against humanity that early treatment has been denied, that medications have been banned, that doctors tell people, just go home. Then, if you start having trouble breathing, come back. Well, you could have stopped. You could have not ever gotten to that point where you had trouble breathing.

That's what we have to remember. This is a very treatable condition, but the government has helped to make it very scary by taking away the options of early treatment for many, many people that have already died. Let's get to Dr. Ryan Coles, back to his presentation where he talks about the importance of having a boosted immune system so you don't get sick in the first place. Biggest lost message on this entire pandemic is vitamin D. There is no such thing, and if that can give one message to all of you for every winter and autumn for the rest of your lives, there is no such thing as flu and cold season. There is only low vitamin D season. If one has a level in mid-range, you cannot develop a cytokine storm. Data shows what kills people? Cytokine storm.

If you are in mid-level range, you will not die from COVID because you cannot get a cytokine storm. How do we get D? Sunshine. We synthesize it through our skin. Above the 35th parallel in the world or below the 35th parallel for 4 to 5 months of the year, you cannot synthesize vitamin D through your skin.

The older you get, the harder it becomes as well. Vitamin D is critical. Every Idahoan, if you do not supplement your vitamin D deficient, you are immune suppressed in the fall and the winter. Okay, so he really went into great emphasis about the importance of vitamin D, and there are others.

I think it's vitamin C, zinc, and a couple other ones of basic supplements that anyone can get to try to boost your immune system because we're so suppressed if you live in the northern climates. What are your thoughts on that, Twyla? Well, because, of course, I've listened to this. What I loved is that he told about the fact that up in the Scandinavian countries, they actually have about 30 different foods that they increase the vitamin D content of just to keep their people's immune response higher. That shows that there have certainly been other countries that have recognized the value of vitamin D for a long time.

It's so inexpensive and it's so easy to do that and everybody should be looking at this. Right now, I don't care where we are. I don't care where we are in the COVID endemic, as he's calling it, rather than a pandemic.

We should all be taking vitamin D and keeping that in mind for past pandemic. Twyla Brace with us today in the Christian worldview talking about the virus and the response. She is the president and founder of Citizens Council for Health Freedom.

CCHFreedom.org is an excellent resource for you. Sign up for their email alerts. They're really good. Twyla creates videos and so forth.

Highly recommended you do that. She's also a registered nurse. Let's get next to go from the supplements Dr. Ryan Cole was recommending to now something that Dr. McCullough told us earlier in the interview about a drug that's very widespread across the world called ivermectin and how it is very helpful if used early on in the treatment of COVID.

Here's his message on that. Enter an effective prevention and treatment, ivermectin. So a lot of you may know we're in farm country, horse country. You know, you give it to your dogs, your cats, your horses. It's an anti-parasitic. But it's a molecule. It doesn't read the textbook and say I can only kill parasites.

It's a molecule. And fascinatingly, it works against viruses too, not just such Coronavirus, but a bunch of other viruses as well. So in August of last year, we found out that it killed Coronavirus 99.9% in Petri dish studies. The NIH, what did they do? For reasons I already explained, they recommended against it. And they did it on monkey cells instead of human lung cells. They're like, oh, the dose would have to be too high.

They fudged the data. Unfortunately, it works. It works. So what did the rest of the world do while we said everybody go home and let your lips turn blue and come to the hospital? The rest of the world said, well, let's try it. So what did the rest of the world do?

A lot of trials. 4 billion people on the planet have taken this medication since the 1980s. This medication won the Nobel Prize for the discoverer. It is that safe. It is on the world's safest and most essential drugs list. 4 billion people have taken it with only one or two deaths out of 4 billion and those people had a genetic disorder.

Super, super, super safe. Okay, I was just thinking as I was listening to that Twyla, how often have you heard that message, what he just said, Dr. Ryan Cole from Idaho about alternate off-label treatments. In other words, a drug that's designed for something else but still has efficacy against coronavirus. Now, Dr. McCullough mentioned earlier about ivermectin.

He also mentioned about using it in conjunction with an anti-inflammatory and a couple other things. Why isn't that helpful bit of information right there being broadcast far and wide that ivermectin and other drugs can help the treatment of COVID? I mean, you have to ask that question because you just say that and it generates hope. I mean, it generates hope because you realize, my goodness, 99.9% that it just kills. It just kills COVID in a petri dish. Well, even if it killed it 95% in humans, there's so much hope in that and somehow the government decided that they had to deprive us all of hope. Ivermectin has been considered a miracle drug and one of the reasons it's a miracle drug is that nobody gets immune to it.

It has all these things that it does and nobody gets immune to it. So, there are definitely early treatments and people need to hear about them and have hope and be cheered. But that's not what the government wants to happen here. That's really hard to imagine why they wouldn't want to do that.

There has to be some ulterior motive behind it, either power, control, financial something. Now, I want to be clear though, when we talk about ivermectin and other drugs, you should definitely check with your own physician because you might be taking other medications that might conflict with and so forth. So, you're not taking medical recommendations off the Christian real view. We're just giving you ideas and options that there is treatment out there beyond just waiting at home if you get COVID to get really sick and then having to go in the hospital. You don't want to end up in the hospital.

That's the worst place you can end up because that means you've gotten to a point where they may not be able to turn things around for you. Twyla Brace with us today on the Christian real view, talking about this presentation by Dr. Ryan Cole in Idaho as a follow-up to our conversation earlier with Dr. Peter McCullough. Okay, now this next soundbite is the one I've been waiting for just about the vaccine because everything you hear now, Twyla, is about the vaccine. Need to get the vaccine. I've been vaccinated.

It's like a virtue signal. I've been vaccinated so therefore I'm safe or I'll never get coronavirus and I'm home free. And this is the public service announcements, the president administration saying, everyone's saying this. So, here's what Dr. Ryan Cole says about the vaccine. By definition, a vaccine historically is giving a protein or an antigen or a part of a pathogen and or a whole killed pathogen. Injecting a sequence of mRNA into a human being is a medical device. Historically, what we're doing right now does not fall under the definition of a vaccine. They shifted the verbiage in some of the federal register back in October so they could approve this.

So, it was a sleight of hand to change the verbiage. What we have right now is an experimental biological gene therapy immune modulatory injection. We are injecting people with a synthetic sequence of nucleic acid. We have never done this on a large scale in human history. mRNA trials in mammals have led to odd cancers. mRNA trials on mammals have led to autoimmune diseases.

Not right away, six, nine, 12 months later. So, this is what we're doing right now are not approved vaccines. And so everybody, how do you create demand? You create scarcity. Oh, gosh, we can't get a shot.

We can't get a shot. Well, it's a beautiful marketing ploy to be able to say, gosh, there's a low supply. So, everybody wants it now. Well, everybody may want it, but the long-term safety data is not there. Fifty percent of healthcare providers are absolutely not getting this injection. And that's a reason. We don't trust the data.

The fox guarded the henhouse. The companies did their own data. There were no independent observer groups looking at the data. You know, do the shots decrease severity of disease and hospitalization? Well, they seem to be, but they don't fall under the definition of creating pure immunity and preventing transmission. If you're immune after an injection, why in the world would you still have to mask and social distance? That is an admission that they don't know that it's a vaccine.

And that's an absurdity. Okay. That was Dr. Ryan Cole talking about the COVID vaccine. Now, again, before I toss it over to Twyla to comment on that, I just want to say, if you've had the vaccine, does it mean you're going to die? It's been given to millions of people. It's just, there's a question about whether this is a quote unquote actual vaccine. What are the long-term effects of it?

And Twyla, your comment to that. Well, by calling it a vaccine, what the companies do is they are, the American people are prohibited from suing them. So they have gotten protection from liability, even though it isn't a vaccine. And the reason you know it's not a vaccine is because you just have to look at the CDC's definition of a vaccine. So a vaccine provides immunity.

And then you have to look at their definition of immunity. Well, their immunity means that you, it prevents you from getting the disease. It doesn't just prevent symptoms. It prevents you from getting the disease. And we all know that that is not what this so-called vaccine does. What this biologic does apparently is to decrease symptoms when you get the disease. And so that's why Dr. Fauci said it, you know, it prevents clinically recognizable disease.

That would be symptoms, clinically recognizable disease. And so it's not a vaccine, but the companies are being protected because it's being called a vaccine. And of course, yes, nobody is home free. I just read something recently where it said, no, you're not home free that you don't have to wear a mask. You still have to wear a mask. And then you have to go, well, why?

And then what on earth did I get? Because, you know, if you have a vaccine for tetanus, you don't get tetanus. It's not like you get mild tetanus or mild lockjaw or medium lockjaw.

You just don't get it. That's a vaccine. It stops you from getting the condition. There's lots of news now about a vaccine passport being required. Like you've, you've had the vaccine, you get a card and now you can go on airlines, you can go to sporting events or concerts, whatever. You can kind of quote unquote buy and sell if you have this, this vaccine passport. What is your thoughts on that?

Is that going to happen? This seems to me to be a severe restriction of civil liberties, something that your organization, Citizens Council for Health Freedom stands completely against. Of course, it's not just about the idea of a passport where you can't buy and sell. You can't freely engage in American life unless you have taken this biologic that the clinical trials aren't even going to be done until 2023. It's also the fact that, that it's something that could harm you. So it's like two things.

One, the things that you can't do and one of the things that might happen to you if you decide to, to, to take what is necessary so you can do those things. The idea that we would all have to have a passport saying that we had taken the vaccine before we could do anything, go anywhere, you know, live life as a free American is the antithesis of being an American. And it may come that we'll have to do like the Wisconsin legislators did and have to take it to court. But hopefully what will happen is there'll be more bans like in Florida and Texas.

And hopefully, you know, other states will follow with follow up with bans against the vaccine passport. We are out of time today on the Christian worldview. Thank you for joining us. Until next time, remember Jesus Christ and his word are the same yesterday and today and forever. Work biblically, live accordingly and stand firm. The mission of the Christian worldview is to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christians and proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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