When Heaven Touches Earth- Need Input

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I say this calls for action and now. Welcome to the Christian Kargai Radio Show. When heaven touches earth today on the Christian Kargai Show, it's a little different because I can't hear in my headphones, but that's okay. I hope you can hear me.

Yeah. There's a 10 second delay in what I'm hearing, so it's a little bit of a challenge. I guess I'm going to turn my headphones off so I don't hear that. And we'll just go on, let the show go on, Bill. It's all we can do.

So when heaven touches earth, we need input today on the Christian Kargai Show. So as you listen to that intro, number five is alive, you know, due to many malfunctions, which actually we have today. It's kind of funny when you think about it, Bill. Well, hearing you twice is a little disconcerting. It was. It was.

We definitely have had some malfunctions. So we need input and it would be nice sometimes to hear, you know, so I'm a little concerned if somebody were to call in today because I can't hear anything through the headphones. But anyway, you heard in the intro, the movie Short Circuit, and that was from the 1980s.

And you might even remember it was just an amazing movie, right? And you think about when you're alive, you need input. And I don't know if you're like me in the morning when you wake up, like, until you get that certain thing from God, you feel like you just missed out. And yeah.

Well, no, I'm looking for something from God where I need some input. And then we heard Jason Gray with every act of love, right? You bring the kingdom come. So today's show is brought to you by the Hebrew letter Zadie. And that letter, if you're to look at it, it looks kind of like a neck in its own way because it holds your head up and it has to do with righteousness.

And this is a really neat thing. I heard it on Kingdom Pursuits last week. I had a guest on who was describing Hebrew to me, and he was talking about the blessing, right? When you get a blessing from the father, his hand was on your head, right? And the idea of that hand is you push your head up into his hand, you're being conformed into the image of his son, right? Interesting. Interesting. And so what does your neck do?

It pushes your head right up into that hand, right? In search of righteousness so you can get right with the father. I mean, it's really an interesting idea. And so that idea of the Zadie would be the neck. So as you might imagine, we're talking about the Song of Solomon so many times here in the Christian Car Guy Show. And this is going to all come together for you here in a minute with the Jesus Labor Love and the stuff we do on a Christian Car Guy Show. But it is from this little passage here where it says, thy belly is like a heap of wheat surrounded by lilies, and thy neck is an ivory tower.

I'm not sure if I'm holding my wife and looking in her eyes and quoting this love point to her that she'd get it like I'd want her to. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, but there's the idea, right, that if your stomach here is, I'm going to give you the short Reader's Digest version of their belly of wheat. If you hunger, your stomach is the center of your hungers and your loins are the center of your procreation hungers, right? And so that idea of hungering for a harvest is the thing. When you think about children, they were your harvest. When you think about being together with everybody in heaven that we can possibly assemble there, you hunger for the harvest.

Now the question is, how do you keep all those hungers under control? And interestingly, they're fenced in by lilies. And if you look at that word fenced in Hebrew, it's almost like a barbed wire fence of lilies. Now what does that exactly mean? Well, the idea of lilies is this idea of praise, right? Praise is almost laughing, joyful praise in the Lord. So there it is that you are so excited about being with God that it fences in everything else, okay? Well, how come the deer aren't in the fence? We're going to get there.

We're going to get there. So, and then there's this idea of the ivory tower, right, which is actually, ivory has to do with your teeth and neck has to do with the pulpit, okay? So it's a pulpit for your teeth, which, what do they do? They chew on the word of God, and it's because of that they're white as milk, and white is the operating idea behind all of the Song of Solomon. If you see how many references there are to white, it's unbelievable. But so the idea is actually, as you push up in, right, with your neck, and you get these words, right, it becomes more and more into the image of God.

It gets more white, and it gets you, you know, what the harvest that you're looking for. Now what is this, actually, we'll just make it clear as an example, okay? So unfortunately, really unfortunately, I had a dear, dear friend for many years. In fact, long before I knew God, I met Vic Hill, and Vic Hill was, at one point in time, you might remember, our lead volunteer for the Jesus Labor Love. And unfortunately, he went to be with the Lord eight years ago, and yeah, it's hard to believe, isn't it, Bill?

Yeah, and he was replaced by Scott Barton. But anyway, Vic had introduced me to my wife, Tammy. You didn't know that. He didn't know that.

He actually set up the blind date. And so he was a dear, dear friend. Well, when Vic went to be with the Lord, I, every single week, talked to his widow, Edith, and we're good, good, good friends.

And we share life together in so many different ways. Well, Wednesday morning at 6.30, I got that call you never want to get from a friend, and she was crying hysterically because she had just lost her son, Greg, her oldest son. He was only 56. He had COVID last December, got really, really sick. And you guys are really going to have to let me know when the, when I'm getting, going out because I have no feedback to, okay, so I'm watching you to show me when I go out. I said, I hate to stop the story right there, but I just got, I'm looking at the time and going this clock's wrong and I got to know, you know. So my friend is, is, she is hysterically upset at the loss of her son, like you would imagine. And so Tammy and I get in the car and we drive to Lillington, North Carolina, where she was at the hospital, still with the body of her son. And her son had been brought into the hospital by her girl, by his girlfriend, who, as you might imagine, was unbelievably distraught. So while they were all still in there, actually with the body, her brother came out, Edith's brother, Joe, came out, and we were praying together for Edith and for Mary, the lady who that had been with, with Greg. And as we were praying, praying, praying, you know, she apparently came out, but we didn't know that.

And my wife had only ever, she'd, I don't know that she'd ever seen Mary. I knew Mary slightly from Vic's funeral. So we looked up this, this lady sitting across from us and she says, thank you for praying for me. And you know, I could immediately see that it was Mary and that she was really, really distraught.

So I went over there, kind of put my arm around her and she said, would you pray with me? And she said this, she said, because when you spoke at Vic's funeral, your words really touched my heart. You see, and at that moment when, when that's heaven touching earth, right? That here's this unbelievable moment of loss, right?

There's a death of this dear son. And in her case, you know, her boyfriend, and she actually had been with him when he passed away, that you're in this situation where like, oh my goodness, heaven is touching earth. And so with that, as we push up into God, there's these amazing little pieces of light that come through that you get to shine. You get to reflect Jesus almost like a glass, like a window. And so how are you a window for somebody to see Jesus, that you touch their heart in a time when they were really, really needing that and then see in doing so you get to be in the ivory tower. So we're going to talk about that today on the Christian car guys show. And due to the fact that I don't know exactly when the bumps coming up, we're going to be right back with your calls eight, six, six, three, four, eight, seven, eight, eight, four.

You're listening to the truth network and truth network.com. As heaven touches you, as heaven touches you, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Jesus help us carry you alive and as your life shines through, and ever act all over. We bring the kingdom come. When heaven touches earth today, we need input. When heaven touches earth, we need input. we've still got a little bit of technical problems, just to give you a little update. Truth Network has been totally redoing our studios, and in the meantime, sometimes things get switched, and so somehow or another we switch something that is causing a bit of issue, but we still want you to call in with when heaven touched earth for you, when somebody or something, God came through loud and clear so that you actually could feel the hand of the Father on your head pushing up into him with your neck to be made into the image of his son.

When did you experience that? 866-348-7884, and if you really think about it, Bill, well, let me mention a couple other things I need to get done. One is, because I'm all out of whack, but I'll get in whack eventually, so. So you're wacky this morning. I am, because you know we're gonna fall back tomorrow.

Yeah. And we may, for those of us in North Carolina, may be the last time we ever fall back, or it may not be, but nonetheless, we know we are falling back, so we don't want you to be so early for church yet tomorrow, because you get a chance to sleep in a bit. We lose that hour. But also, coming up in the last segment of today's show, so you gotta call in quick and get in your stories.

At 866-348-7884 in the last segment, we got Christian Kargai Theater, and we got Buick Byans is gonna be making his appearance, which is very cool, and we also have a very new star of Hopeful, because now that Faithful's gone, as you might remember in the book, Pilgrim's Progress, in our case, Plymouth Horizon Hopeful will make his debut with one line in Christian Kargai Theater that's coming up in the last segment. Okay, getting back to when heaven touches earth, Bill, and this idea of pushing up into the blessing. I don't know if you ever thought about, there are essentially four elements that they talk about in physics, right? That you got earth, water, fire, and air, right? Well, what actually touches earth is water touches earth with rain, and light touches earth, right? And wind touches earth.

Those three things actually touch the fourth in a really neat sort of way. I don't know if you ever thought about that, but when you think of light, where's that that's essentially, you know, in our case with the earth, it's the sun, but in a spiritual sense, right? You have this, yeah, and then the wind, you can kind of see that that's the Holy Spirit, and rain is clearly the word of God. I mean, it just is. In so many different ways, it's living water.

So absolutely beautiful. And so when you get a chance to actually be touched by God, by that which is supernatural, it makes an impact. And so as I was telling about my friend and being a chance to pray with her at that moment when heaven touches earth, right? When somebody dies all of a sudden, you know, the odds are different.

I don't know how to put it. Things become more important. Your faith is a great deal, and they say it's better to be in a house of mourning than a house of feasting. And I don't know how much you've experienced that, but time and again, I've seen how families get closer. I've seen the opposite too, but yes. Well, you know, but yeah, things become like, whoa, my priorities just got switched. Like, you know, well, it wasn't such a high priority a little while ago.

Now all of a sudden becomes a huge priority, right? Because I saw Edith's other son come, and when they embraced, it was a lot more intense embrace than they probably had in a long, long time. And as I said, you know, in a way, when you sit back and look at it, you could see as Greg's son came Carter, which we can be praying for Greg and Edith and Mary and all these people that lost him, but I could see this son and the way he loved on his grandmother and the way she loved on him. And you can see real love, right? You can see real caring in action.

You can see all these things, because in this moment, right, heaven touches earth. How does that work out in your life? When did you see that, eight, six, six, three, four, eight, seven, eight, eight, four, eight, six, six, three, four, true? So, right, as you hunger for that kind of love, right?

That's a real harvest right there, Bill. I mean, when you see it, I mean, that's really people loving each other. And when you hunger for that kind of love, right? You're so caught up in what God's doing. You're fenced in by lilies, right? This isn't the time where you're all of a sudden thinking, man, I need to go eat a bunch of donuts. I mean, it doesn't happen, right? You're fenced in by lilies here.

How does that exactly work? And we're gonna try our headphones again just real quick, so in case we get a call. All right, so the delay is only about a half a second. All right, so we're getting there. It's an interesting challenge, but we need your calls. We would love to hear them even if they're delayed a bit. In our ears, eight, six, six, three, four, eight, seven, eight, eight, four, eight, six, six, three, four, true.

So Bill, you've had a little time to think about this now. So I'm stuck on the deers. I always get stuck on the deers in this love point. Really? Yeah, they seem to be outside the lilies, though, and I hadn't ever considered the lilies. I always skipped over, because it sort of made it sound like my wife's stomach was hairy.

And it's not the love song that I would write to my personal wife, but I enjoy the fact that we're supposed to greatly appreciate our wives. Well, let me speak to the deer for you for a second, okay? It's a young roe.

Uh-huh. Well, interestingly, that you bring that up. You know that the word roe in Hebrew begins with the letter that we're talking about today.

It begins with that letter zaddy. And I don't know if you think about how well a deer holds its head up. I mean, and with those horns on its head, right, it's reaching to heaven unlike many other animals. And you think about how righteous, they don't put that on the front of a, insurance agencies have that deer head because it looks right.

It looks righteous. Because its head is standing up, it's pushing into the father, right? This is not a snake. And I would point out that a snake's head, if you think about it, it's right there in the dirt. Yeah?

Unless it's cobra. And then it was a little different. So we got, we'll be right back with a whole lot more Christian car guy.

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For every act of love, we bring the kingdom when heaven touches earth today on the christian car guy show so we are experiencing still a little bit of this but we would love for your call that when you touched heaven so to speak it's a really really neat thing and i don't know if you ever saw the movie um the did you see it short circuit where the where that robot was going need input right right and i don't know we talked about at the beginning that that wow you know if you could imagine my friend that if she lost her son what does she need she she desperately needs input like i don't understand how this happened why it happened whatever and the only the only way that that real comfort's coming is for heaven to touch earth right to get that sense that god is is coming for you and giving you the input that that you desperately desperately need and and like i said when you're in a house of mourning then all of a sudden the input so much more critical to you know what you're feeling how you're experiencing it and and all that becomes extremely important right a lot more important than some of the stuff you thought you were facing today and so you know i i see the the the idea of the ivory tower here and i don't know if you ever heard the story bill but i i think it speaks to the idea really really well that there was this in as i recall and i read the story years and years ago about this um chinese or maybe he was japanese but i think it was chinese man that was put in prison for sharon christ and he was totally mistreated beaten you can you name it he was mistreated and one of the things that they had him do was they had as you might imagine this horrible latrine system unbelievably horrible latrine system in this in this chinese jail and just the snitch would be unbelievable but they had his job every day was to clean this out of all the different prison systems that they could put him in that was his job but the way the story was told is that you never met a happier man in your life that this man here he sang and was full of joy and everybody looked at him couldn't believe it because here he had the worst possible job you could ever imagine was totally mistreated beaten and all that but what what had happened you see was he was in the ivory tower and when you get that idea the ivory tower uh if you go google it you'll see that that what what the world thinks the ivory tower is they're quote victor hugo who was a wonderful christian i know where he got it but they said he came up with the idea well he didn't come up with the idea it's right here in the song okay it didn't come up in the 1800s it came up when solomon wrote this book but they said that somebody lives in the ivory tower is too good to get their hands dirty well the opposite is actually true all right when you think about it here's this guy talk about getting your hands dirty i mean he couldn't be getting his hands more dirty than than he was there cleaning little trains right but he who seeks to lose his life will gain it right he who seeks to get his life most people that were torturing him were actually the ones that were that live it in the ivory tower you know that whole idea that they were losing their life while he was gaining it and and it's it's a fascinating thing that is we push up towards righteousness right and we and we get encircled by these lilies of praise as this man clearly did then he ended up actually he was the one that people saw the on the ivory tower right he was the guy that you looked up to and you saw that smile right and and actually bill if you go back to the very beginning of the song of solomon it says right that your cheeks are comely with rose in your neck with chains well that that cheeks with with rose that means you're smiling so big you got dimples and your neck it's got chains because it's it's looking up man it's an ivory tower so yeah bill there's this story of where jesus is before the most powerful people he's got the lawyers and the chief priests there and he's talking about the law that the roman said that any roman citizen could make a jew put down their belongings no matter what they were and carry the belongings of a roman for a mile and jesus was listening to this and he says not only should you do this you should do it in a good spirit you should do it with a good attitude and then after that first mile you should carry it a second mile and i've thought why in the world would you do that and it dawned on me that first mile you're a slave and they're snickering at you but that second mile you're giving them a gift and they don't understand why that second mile they're interested in what you've got to say about god and jesus that second mile you've got their attention a good attitude goes a long way in the way you deal with your life and the way you interact with other people it's an ivory tower and we have an alt with us so we get to try phone hello and how are you carrying my echo back you are having problems there aren't you are you there i am here and i'm sorry for the echo which is so amazing it's not echoing anymore so all is well and i'll be very brief and and uh i i mean what an amazing uh an amazing you know theme today and of course uh i have been through my 78 and a half years i have you know i have the experience you know death taking friends and so on and the sweet sorrow sometimes of it but um as you know when my older brother who was just just the joy of my life in so many ways and i admired him in so many ways he was a marine and then and then one of the good guys in fbi and but he more than anything he knew jesus and it was because god spoke to me when i um just many decades ago when i was going to go back to hollywood and be famous but he he spoke to me to stay where i was as we helped our parents move across country and so that was the only time i heard the audible voice really of god and it was because my brother and i had a chance to talk and walk and he gave his life to the lord and so but when he went through his fading to glory which is how i look at it you know his his season of you know fading to glory to be with the lord um it was the most remarkable season robbie you know i know oh i know you know your dad your mom it's like but it's a sweet sorrow it really is and rich had this louis body dementia disease because of his time in saigon as a marine and but he was a brilliant guy you know phd and criminal mind which helped him understand me but anyway he was so wonderful and and and i would talk to him his wife we you know called all the time and and we talked on the phone and his brain was affected you know especially the last days of his life but and even though so much of the time he has these rabbit trails and of course i have those too but even though words made no sense at times i'd follow him on his rabbit trails but he knew jesus robbie and he was saved and it was a sweet sorrow heaven so down and glory filled my soul i know i know all our listeners are wondering the same thing i am which is when you heard the audible voice of god what did you actually hear me well the irony of it is i don't remember the exact words but i know he told me to stay i had been with my mother a couple weeks you know and i was living in hollywood at the time and that was as i said decades and decades ago and my both my parents are in heaven now but um when they moved out of turkey uh but the thing is i i was just sort of waking up and it was that voice and it basically told me to basically stay if that was that was the bottom line and i knew it was a heavenly voice and as far as i was concerned i felt it was the voice of god i don't know how that all works and i've since then i've had marvelous experiences with the lord as i've given him as i gave him my life in new york city in 1974 and you know heaven comes down and glory fills our soul i love this whole season you know heaven touching earth and a window to heaven and um but that is the one time when i i was sure and and so that when rich and daddy arrived with the dog with more stuff for the move and the dogs and so on you know rich and i just had some marvelous times in albergurky new mexico walking and talking about the lord you know my my mom had a word that was that got my soul i've never forgotten it and on times like like this she said the older i get the more my treasure is in heaven and that's that's just just well we got christian car guy theater coming up in the last segment thank you and so much for calling uh we will get to your calls next week and and uh right now stay tuned for an exciting adventure at christian car guy theater and we're so grateful that you listen today you're listening to the truth network and truth network.com and now time for christian car guy theater with today's episode A Plymouth Progress episode 32. Now Jimmy saw in his dream that Plymouth Valiant did not go forth alone from Vanity Fair because there was one whose name was Plymouth Horizon Hopeful who chose to come with Plymouth Valiant and Hopeful was given that name as he had watched how christian and faithful in their words and in their deeds had conducted themselves with such honor in such a sinful place. Therefore Plymouth Horizon Hopeful chose to accompany Valiant and enter into a brotherly covenant telling Valiant that he would be his companion thus one died the beloved faithful died to bear testimony to the truth and another rises out of his ashes to be a companion with Valiant and his Plymouthage. This Horizon Hopeful also told Valiant that there were many more of the sedans in the fair that would take their time and follow after.

So Jimmy saw in his dream that shortly after Valiant and Hopeful had left the fair the two of them quickly overtook one that was driving before them whose name was Buick Byans. What country are you from sir and how far will you be going this way? I come from a town of fair speech and I'm going to the celestial city. From fair speech huh is there any good that lives there? Yes I hope. Pray sir what may I call you? I am a stranger to you and you to me. If you be going this way I shall be glad of your company.

If not I must be content. This town of fair speech I have heard of and as I remember they say it is a wealthy place. Yes I will assure you that it is and I have many rich kindred there. Pray who are your kindred fair if a man may be so bold as to ask you that? Almost the whole town and in particular my lord tornado turnabout, my lord tesla time servant, my lord fair lane fair speech from whose ancestors that town first took its name. Also Mr. Saab smooth man, Mr. Falcon facing both ways, Mr. Acura anything and the parson of our parish Reverend Triton Tootops. He was my mother's own brother by my father's side and to tell you the truth I have become a gentle sedan of good quality yet my grandfather was but a waterman looking one way and rowing another and I got most of my estate by the same occupation. Are you a married sedan? Yes and my wife is a very virtuous sedamsel, the daughter of a virtuous sedamsel.

She was my lady Ferrari feigning's daughter therefore she came of a very honorable family and is arrived to such a pitch of breeding that she knows how to carry it to all, how to act cordially and respectively to all whether to a prince or a peasant. It is true we somewhat differ in religion from those of the strictest sort yet but in two small points. First we never strive against wind and tide.

Secondly we are always most zealous when religion goes about in his silver slippers. We'd love to walk with him in the street if the sun is shining and the people are applauding him. At that last comment of Buick by ends valiant slowed down a little in order to quietly comment for his companion Horizon Hopeful. Hmm it runs in my mind that this is one Buick by ends of the town a fair speech. If it is he then we have in our company one of the most deceitful rogues who ever lived in this part of the country. Ask him I do not think he should be ashamed of his name.

Sir you talk as if you knew something more than most people in the world and if I'm not mistaken I would guess that your name is Mr. Buick by ends of fair speech. This is not my name but indeed it is an insulting nickname that is given to me by some who do not care for me and I must be content to bear it as a reproach as other good men have borne theirs before me. But did you never give an occasion to men to call you by this name? Never never the worst thing I ever did to invite such a name was to have the good luck to jump in and ride the tide of the times profiting thereby.

Yes I had the good luck to make a profit a lot of money only because I was simply skilled at knowing which way the winds of change were blowing. It was a gift to know these things if this is my crime then I will count it a blessing but I will not let the malicious load me up with reproach with unreasonable condemnation. Just as I thought indeed that you were the sedan that I had heard of and to tell you the truth I fear your nickname belongs to you more properly than you would like us to think. Well I can't help it if this is what you think but you shall find me to be good company if you will still allow me to be your associate and travel with you. If you will go with us you must go against wind and tide which I believe is against your principles and you must also stand by religion in his rags as well as when he is in his silver slippers and stand by him too when bound in irons as well as when he drives down the streets with applause. You must not impose your faith on me let me have my views and let me go with you. Not a bit further unless you will do as I have just proposed even as we do I shall never desert my old principles since they are harmless and profitable. If I may not go with you I must do as I did before you drove up next to me even go by myself until someone overtakes me that will be glad of my company. Tune in next time for the next exciting adventure in the Plymouth Progress.

Now here's Danny Dipstick and Randy Radiator to review today's episode. Uh-huh Randy I think that buy-ins has to do with the ends justify the mean breaking news due to heavy storms all the rivers in Egypt are flooding the citizens of Cairo are still in denial and that would be a good lesson for Mr. Buick buy-ins. Randy he needs to deny himself and take if it's cross and follow Jesus for whoever denies his life will gain it.

I'm not saying he's lazy but buy-ins mom told me that when he gets married she won't be losing a son she'll be gained in a couch. You know Danny there's a saying by Benjamin Franklin when he said trouble knocked at the door but hearing laughter hurried away. Well I changed it to Buick knocked at the door but hearing truth hurried away that's by Randy Radiator yours truly Danny. Well Danny here's something I heard that makes good sense never under any circumstance take a sleeping pill and it locks in it at the same time. That's all I got say goodbye Danny. See you later Radiator. When heaven touches earth right when that light comes down and that's so much what happens with Christian Kargai theater with the acts of love we get from all this wonderful cast and crew and we just to start off we got Robert Sloan who played the part of Buick buy-ins just a wonderful talent out of South Carolina and Jesse Cordy is valiant you know such an amazing I wish I could give him the the recorder's Grammy or something for the tremendous job he always does and then we had our very own Christian Snyder here with the truth network that played the part of hopeful and our good friend and tremendous comedian he's actually with Babylon B now doing all sorts of stuff on YouTube Brian Habbitt and just just a good good friend and an amazing guy and you think about it this is their chance to bring light to all of us through their gifts and and their talents and I would be remiss if I didn't mention my good friend Ann Alt who always takes our scripts and looks them over and gets them to the actors and coordinates us in so many different ways even though you didn't hear her voice in today's episode which we miss she is always behind the scenes both in in all her work and in her prayers and so you know as I think about this amazing idea of when heaven touches earth that whatever it is that that god lit up in your life that you needed input and then he showed up and wow how did that work out in your life well you know tomorrow morning I know I'm gonna wake up I'm gonna need input malfunction I always feel like that when I wake up malfunction need input Lord I pray that we would all right that we would all come to you tomorrow morning for input maybe even right this minute because Lord with every active love you bring the kingdom into our hearts would you light it up in Jesus name amen 10 this is the truth network