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October 10, 2026 12:27 pm

On this episode of Christian Car Guy Radio, guest host Bill Mixon welcomes Dion Carter of Goodwill Industries of Northwest North Carolina and Danita of YWCA Holly House for an encouraging conversation about helping people overcome difficult circumstances and build better futures. Dion shares how Goodwill partners with Forsyth Tech and other organizations to provide free career training, educational support, and employment opportunities in fields such as trucking, healthcare, welding, and skilled trades. Danita explains how Holly House helps women recovering from substance abuse and mental health challenges move toward stability, independence, and self-sufficiency through counseling, job training, and housing support.

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This is the Truth Network. Welcome to the Christian Car Guy Radio Show. I say this calls for action, and now. Good. Good morning.

It's so wonderful to be here. I get a chance every once in a while to fill in for Robbie Dillmore. This is Bill Mixon, and we appreciate you tuning in to our show this morning, the Christian Car Guy Show. I've got two folks as guests this morning. It just excites me because I talk about these two programs more than most programs, and they do more good to help.

Different communities that need help than just about anybody else in Forsyth County. Dion's with. The Forsyth Tech Goodwill Program, and you will be amazed at what's available through the Goodwill Forsyth Tech Program. Say good morning, Dion. Good morning, Dion.

Your last name, please, sir. Carter. He and you are a over the career navigators.

So yes, so I'm a official titles associate VP of Mission Services.

So I'm with Goodwill Industries of North Forsyth, North Carolina. We partner with Forsyth Tech to provide Economic mobility opportunities through our programs. He looks almost as impressive as his title, and we've got Danita. I love Danita. Danita's over one of the most special programs we've got for ladies in Forsyth Tech that are in Forsyth County that are in desperate need.

Danita, please say good morning. Good morning. Would you please share a little bit about Holly House? Yes, yes. Thank you, uh, Bill, for having me here this morning.

So YWCA Holly House is a program of one of the programs of YWCA, where we serve women eighteen and over, with the disease of substance abuse, mental health. Um, they are referred from treatment centers and they come to Holly House to move from the crisis stages of recovery to becoming self-supporting. Uh, the way we help them walk along. With them to get to that point is that we offer services on site, substitutes counseling, as well as trauma counseling. We work with different partner agencies with vocational training.

We work with VR as well as with Goodwill and other companies to help us to get them to be employed.

So once they get to Holly House, they are there for the first. First thirty days, sixty days, they're there to work on their mental health and their substance abuse, to get all of that. In compliance before they even go to work, and once they start working, they move to the stages of having budgeting, savings account, and then getting ready for housing. We can house them up to six to nine months. We are the only state licensed recovery program in Forsyth County.

We serve as well as we serve them to help them along the way with. Their like I said, budgeting and savings, and getting back into our community to become productive members of society. Dion, you've got a long haul trucker's program that is dear to my heart. I would go into the jail and talk to the gentleman there and talk about some of the programs that were available. And one day, this guy walked up to me on the street and says, "You know, I was listening to what you said.

I went down to Goodwill. I found out about the long haul truck driving program. I got in it, got out, and you know, I'm making seven." thousand dollars a year six months after I got out of jail, so would you please tell the folks a little bit about the truck driving program and I think you've got a short haul a A different type of truck driving program too.

So we partner with the community colleges again. We throughout our territory, we partner with eighteen community colleges, Forsyth Tech being one, and we also partner with other training providers.

So we help individuals obtain their CDL licenses through those training programs.

So individuals come in, engage with one of our career navigators. They set them up with an educational career plan. They help them obtain their CDL license, Class A, Class B, and again, it's for the Five weeks, you're in, you're out, and you're making pretty good money. If you go through the community college program, it's about eight weeks to twelve weeks. But again, it helps individuals who are seeking economic mobility achieve that in about two months.

And again, it's it's up to working with our career navigators to support individuals who are in that training space to help them maintain a CDL credential.

Now, that's both the big long haul trucks, and it's the people that need a driver to drive parts around inside of town. Always tell people you got to have a driver's license. You've got to have a clean driving record. You, if you drink or do drugs, this is the wrong career for you because all you got to do is to get one DUI and you've wiped out all your.

So there is a select group of people that have good driving records, that don't use any drugs, they've got their GED or high school, and they come to you. You've got employers are. Already lined up that say if you graduate from the program and your instructor gives you a thumbs up, they're guaranteed or pretty much guaranteed employment.

So yes, they are.

So a lot of individuals sometimes, like again, they may have some blemishes on their background. We still work with them. Again, it just depends on what the trucking company, what their rules are around insurance and eligibility, right?

So again, one of the things we do is as they're finishing class, we bring in employers of the Training providers bring in employers, work with the students, and then they typically have employment fairly quickly after they after they graduate.

Now, Danita, the way I got. Hooked up, connected to Holly House was I was doing the jail training at the downtown center, and I made the mistake of asking a young lady if I could help her. I came out and she was crying, as she had this long story, and I ended up trying to take her to her sister's house, and the story kept changing. And every moment I was with her, I was thinking this was the dumbest thing you've ever done, and the next day. I bumped into the director at the YWCA, and it was like God put me in the right place at the right time to hear about this program.

And any time I had a female that needed assistance, I would pick up the phone and call Holly House. And any time they had a male that needed, I'm pretty good if you're a male and you don't have children that you're directly in charge of, helping you figure out a way. To get help, but if it's a female, for the life of me, I don't understand how any young lady with a child could navigate getting out. But your program actually works with ladies that were on the street, ladies that just got out of the jail, some really difficult situations like very poor husbands. Would you talk about some of the folks that end up coming to Holly House that probably never thought anybody would help them?

Yes, yes, that's a good question, Bill.

So, the way for them to get to Holly House is that they are referred from a treatment center, as well as the detention center. They can come. They have to have an assessment that they are substance abuse, mental health, and we just. Continue to serve them with accesses to all of our partner agencies, but first of all, like you said, to get them off of the street, they have to go to treatment first. We have to step after treatment to be detox, and able to come to Holly House because we are a state licensed facility.

But you know, like you said, once they get there, then we're able to serve them to move them from their crisis to their self supported. And like you said, a lot of times, a lot of women don't know about Holly House and ways that you. Know about Holly Houses? You can go to our website at ywcaws.org and find out about our program and complete an application online, and then they can get an interview, and then we get them there.

Now we're broadcasting across the United States, and some of you might think, "What about my community?" And I would say to you that if you contact the Goodwill, that a lot of the Goodwills have robust programs, and at least in our area, the simplest way to do that is you just drop into the main Goodwill and come in, and somebody will be sitting there at a table, and you say, "I'm here for help. I've got to say, making phone calls to try." And find out some of this stuff is a little frustrating. Plus, the counselors at Goodwill need to look at you, and they've got to see a spark in your eye that you're actually willing to make some changes and do what you've got to do. With Holly House, you've got to be referred to them.

Now you can contact them, and they can sort of give you an idea of who their referrals are. But most of the treatment program facilities know the different programs that are available, but. You've got to be able to convey that I'm ready to change my life. A lot of folks just don't understand. If the same thing keeps happening to you every week, maybe it's not the world.

It's maybe. The way we look at the world, and until you open your eyes and say there are people out there that will help me, and I am willing to take some advice, and I am willing to make some changes, there is a whole lot more help available in our communities. Than we think there are. Would you talk about a success story or two? You don't need to use a name, but I would love for the audience to.

You bat about a fifty percent success rate from ladies that have drug and alcohol programs, problems, and I would love for you to share a little bit when we come back from the break about. How folks that are just down and out have absolutely no reason to believe life will get better changes astronomically by getting through the program, and then we can have Dion talk about. I mean, there are thousands of people every year that go through these programs and come out making good money with the opportunity to make changes. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com.

Well, welcome back. I hope you're having a wonderful day today. We're fighting the tail end of a hurricane, but it's a beautiful day, and we've got two people I just think the world of who would like to see folks in difficult situations find a way out. In my opinion, there's some folks that wake up every morning and say, "I've worked really hard to be this miserable." And I just don't want to give it up. And at some point, they've got to say, "Well, maybe if I let loose of this, my life could be unbelievably better." Ladies who are in an unbelievably difficult situation, like.

A really bad husband, or just got out of jail, or they've been on the street, can think such negative thoughts that they can't find a path out. But one path out that I know of is Holly House, and I would love for Donita to share a couple success stories about what can happen if you are willing to make some changes. Thank you, Bill. Yes, so the success story that I'm thinking about is a young lady who came from us. She was referred to us from ARCA.

What's ARCA? ARCA.

Okay, it's true. Thank you. It's it's called Addiction Recovery Treatment Program, and it's a a place where they go to treatment, and they're referred to Holly House. Programs like that in every county in the United States. Yes, Bill, it sure is, and they referred her there.

And once she got there, you know, of course, she was substance abuse, mental health. She had been in a bad relationship, so we work with her, with her trauma. She had trauma as well, so we had trauma counseling on site, as well as substance abuse counseling. For like I said, for the first two months, she did not work. She was able to work on herself, so that she was able to find out who she was and what path she wanted to go.

So I. I think it's very important that you meet people where they are and ask them what do they want to do, and once she figured that out and got all that stabilized, she was referred to Goodwill. She went to Goodwill. She did the forklift training. She trained that she got certified in that, as well as she got certified in I think it's peer peer support.

So now she is actually working at Goodwill. She's been there almost a year now. She's just about purchased a car. She's actually added some extra income doing the Uber Eats, going out, taking Uber Eats.

So you know, once she got stable, she was able to find her path and find out what she liked to do and come back into our community and and be a service.

Now, in my mind, there there are lots of folks that. If they would understand what the world means by substance abuse, they don't slam a door in their face. There are a lot of programs out there with money if you've got a drug or an alcohol problem, but. If you just realize that if your life would be better if it weren't for the drugs or the alcohol, then you've got a drug abuse problem. And if you don't fight that label, there are a lot of doors available to you that you shut by saying, "I don't have a drug or alcohol problem." So, what we're saying is that you've got to find a drug or alcohol problem.

Go in, be honest and open, listen, and then say, "I need some referrals. Where can you refer me to?" Now, you don't have to have a drug or alcohol problem to go to Goodwill. It's amazing to me every time I hear somebody talk about, yeah. Low income jobs, and I think that you can get around low income jobs by getting a medium income job in three months. Would you talk about some of the different jobs that are available through your programs?

So, our goal through our programs is to help individuals with economic mobility.

So, we our what do you mean by economic mobility?

So, we help individuals obtain credentials. Right.

So, individual the only way you you remove Yourself from poverty, poverty is by educating yourself, and so getting credentials. Right, so it used to be you can walk out of high school, go to Reynolds, work for thirty years, get the gold watch. World doesn't work like that anymore, and so we really focus on helping individuals obtain skills.

So individuals skills training, skills based trades.

So electrician, plumbing, HVAC, welding. We help them get into allied health care programs.

So a program such as CNA, nursing.

Some of the trade skills around CDL, so we really focus on helping individuals develop their career and educational pathway and build those plans out. And you've got a nursing program, so we work with the community colleges to help fund training.

So we fund training. We're not so much a training provider.

So if an individual comes in and says, "Hey, I want to go to school at Forsyth Tech to get my CNA," we'll help them get the funding for that training. We'll help them get the funding for their scrubs and their blood pressure cuffs. We'll help them take pay for their Exams and licenses once they get finished with the class.

So our job is to help individuals fund their training programs, and we do that internally through our our our retail network.

So we our stores and the donations and you shopping at Goodwill fund our mission programs.

Okay, so if I'm sitting at home with two children and I'm trying to figure out how to get something better than a minimum wage job, I can get a navigator who will sit down and say, "Well, what are the problems you've got?" And they say, "Well, I don't have a GED or high school," and you say, "We can fix that." Correct, and they can say that I don't have transportation to get to the school, and you can fix that. Support this. I don't. Have childcare to take care of my kids for the three months it takes to get through the program. You can fix that.

We can support that. Yes. And if I come in, the instructors I've talked to have said, if somebody comes in and they're serious, they show up for class when they're supposed to show up for class. They turn in their homework when the homework needs to be turned in. They pass the classes.

They have a good attitude. When they finish, I've got. Employers that I are chomping at the bit to hire them, and I've got four or five good things to say about this person, and I have no problem getting them a job. Yes, so we again we work. The big part of our business is helping individuals on the front end with training, helping them complete training by taking care of those life happens moments, so those supportive services, and then once they get to the end of their training, we have a network of partners we work with in terms of employers to help them find employment.

Again, with the skills trades. Particularly, HVAC welding. There are employers that are looking for individuals. Every day, again, supply doesn't meet the demand, and so we're again helping individuals upskill, get trained, go to work, make sure they've got a really good resume, a really good cover letter, a really good online profile. That is how we support individuals and build them up to achieve economic mobility.

Now, yeah, there's electricians, there's plumbers, there's heating and air conditioning, there's forklift operating, there's welding. I've been told one of the best welding. Programs in the entire state is at Forsyth Tech. There are paths out of poverty and low-income jobs that can be knocked out in three months.

So yes, and there are ways to solve almost every problem once you get self-motivated. Correct. Please tune back in because you got people you need to share this news with, and we appreciate you. And we're going to listen to you call in to our show. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com.

Well, welcome back. This is the Christian Car Guy show. It's Bill Mixon filling in for Robbie Dillmore, who's out in the world having a wonderful time, and I'm having a wonderful time here. I've got two folks that have dedicated their lives to making life better for others, and I want you to think about one. I want you to be praying for these programs, and I know there's some really good Christians in the audience.

That have people in their lives that you just wish you knew how you could help them, and you should be praying for them and praying about how you can get them connected to a program that will make a difference in their lives. If it's a person with a drug or alcohol problem, you know the first step is them trying to grasp the. Probability that they have that, and then you've got to get them into treatment. But if you know somebody's in treatment, there are all kinds of different avenues to go and find assistance. But it's not an easy search.

You've got to find somebody in the a counselor in a network that will make thirty or forty phone calls to find an availability. At Holly House right now, how long a waiting list do you have?

So, Bill, we have probably about six.

So, yeah, and you have people graduate every year. About how many people? How many openings come up in a year? Openness company year is about ten, so we serve about twenty women in a year.

So you know the waiting list is nowhere near as long as you would think it would be.

Now with the goodwill programs, yeah, your classes aren't full. Um.

So a lot of our like our skills trades classes they do fill up fairly quickly, right? There's a lot of demand for those. Um.

But again, our services again helping individuals engage and developing those career education plans. Um.

Those are open every day. You walk in the door of any of our centers within Forsyth County and within our 31 county network.

So again, we'll help individuals navigate, get enrolled, knowing the classes start and make sure they're ready to go when those classes do start.

So I have no money. I mean, I got no money in in in my savings account. I've got no money in my pockets. Surely, there's no way that you can help me. No.

So all of our services are free of charge, and and we do that through our retail environment.

So individuals who donate and shop at our stores, that money goes back into our mission services.

So that's how we fund what we do in terms of the work and making sure everything's free of charge.

So the training dollars we support individuals with the supportive services we. Support individuals with the bus passes we help individuals with. Those are made possible through the donation and sale of goods in our retail stores. But I don't have a GED or high school education. Surely you can't help me.

No, it's just that's that is our goal.

So we have individuals who walk in our doors every single day who who don't have adult based education, and we start there, and then we build from there.

So by them getting their high school diploma or GED, that's not the last step. We want them to go in and get additional skills and credentials as well. I've got two children at home, and I don't have anything waited for them to be looked after while I'm in. Surely you can't help me. We have supportive services as well, and part of that supportive services is working with our local Department of Social Services, helping individuals apply for vouchers, and then we help cover some of those costs until they receive a voucher if they're eligible.

Well, yeah, I'm just got this little itty bitty check coming in from the government, and this little itty bitty check from this minimum wage job. I have. I don't have enough money to be able to provide for my two kids and to come down here to your program. Surely you can't help me. Yes, yes.

All of our services free of charge. And again, and it takes a village.

So. Organizations like the Holly House partnering with other organizations, other nonprofits helps us build that village, that support network, that safety net to help individuals who are seeking economic mobility achieve that. Danita, you've sent lots and lots and lots of people through this program, right? Correct, Bill. Yes.

So, a lot of the ladies that you help get from the jail into your program and back out. You utilize these programs, and you can attest that they work well. Absolutely, but. Bill, you are correct. Like you said, it takes a village, and the partnership is so important that we network together to help these individuals get back into our community.

You know, when we collaborate as one, then it helps the individual to have more support. That's why I love working with Goodwill and other partner agencies. Even you know, when they first walk in the door, we're working with for like I said to get. Them stable. We work with Insight.

We work with Downtown Health Plaza for physical health. All of this is a collaboration to help these individuals get back into our community. I have, like I said, we have several women that went through their CNA program and is that is working. Like you said, you know, if you get that that Those skills, those skills training—that helps you to get more and better pay. Would you please share a couple success stories that you know about?

So, so yes, Bill. We work with about thirty-five thousand individuals a year, but just in for us, like we work with a lot of ladies and females who go through our allied health training program.

So, individual A walked in the door, wanted to get their CNA, got their CNA. Started a career in healthcare. We supported them to make sure they did have those childcare supports, make sure they have bus passes and those pieces. And we also help with food insecurity, so we get them connected with food pantries and things of that nature. Individual decided they want to continue their education.

They went back to school, got their social degree in nursing, so their ADN. They are now a registered nurse. They're able to take care of their two children. They're able. She was able to buy purchase a home, and so again to give her kids a different life.

So again, we we do those things all the time. We have individuals who come through our veterans programs, and so we help those individual first again stabilizing, making sure we get them housed from being unhoused. And once we get them housed, we were able to get them into the CDL program. They went through the CDL program with support. Through our goodwill programs, our NC Works programs, and then they were able to secure employment.

They're making about sixty thousand dollars a year driving trucks over the road to get to see the country. And so, sixty thousand dollars you're telling me in three months I could come in and end up with a job making more than fifty thousand dollars a year if I'm serious. Yes, if you're committed to that. Yes. Okay.

You mean I'm not stuck in this. Unbelievably unenjoyable home with no money. There are ways for me to in three months to have a really decent paycheck coming in. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Now let's put this in perspective. It probably took me three months from the time that I talked to you to do the things I needed to do to have my act together to start the class. But in six months, it's fairly reasonable to found a path to get from where I am to a really good. Good, maybe intermediate step. I know, you know.

I worked some rather intermediate construction jobs and set aside enough money to improve my education to have a much better job. It's a big step, but you've got to take those steps, Donita. You talk about what ladies got to do to get from where they are to a decent job. You've got some folks that are doing real well ten years after the programs. Yes, that is correct, Bill.

So to get where they are, like you said, they had to come in and be willing to help us walk alongside of them to, to even want to to go down this road to recovery.

So once they start working and get stability, they are able to open up a bud. They are able to open up a savings account. You know, start to budget their money, and then to move in our to our community to get. Housing, and which we know that is one of the one of our things right now. It's housing.

It's a big thing to find housing for our ladies once they leave there, but it is possible.

So you're a whole lot more likely to find decent housing after going through one of these programs and being able to afford. Housing. Then before you go through any of these programs, and you're getting by on the very smallest amount of money possible. Absolutely. You've got nursing program that folks can go through, an office program that folks can go through, the office management.

You've got. What are some of the other programs that you know of that Forsyth Tech also?

So, so any of your classes at Forsyth Tech.

So you've got again allied health programs.

So working those spaces, we have two big. Health organizations with our healthcare organizations within our community and Forsyth, so we've got again whatever class you think you want to take in Forsyth Tech, we can support. Again, we'll help you with financial aid if if that's the path you want to choose.

So again, it may be we don't help fund training, and maybe we help you apply for funding to get funds for school. Again, we work with individuals again developing those career and education plans, and part of those plans developing what are your steps to get. Employ. What are your steps to fund training? What are your steps to achieve economic mobility?

But but I've got a criminal record. Surely you can't help me. No, we've got programs for individuals who just impacted, just involved, and so we really focus on the individuals.

So again, don't worry about what your circumstance may be. If you want out of your circumstance, whatever it may be, it can be. I want a better paying job. I want to. I want to see the world and drive trucks.

I want to go into health healthcare. I want to go into A skills trade program and and start my own business in two years.

So don't worry about your what your past is. We don't worry about your past. We focus on your future.

So yeah, my understanding is there's absolutely no barrier once you've got a high school degree or GED, which you can help them with. The only thing that will screw you up is if you have a drug problem after you start the program. Participate.

So we talk. We. Call our individual participants because you must participate in the process.

So again, you have to be committed to self improvement.

Well, listen to this and share this information with the folks that you know that need some help. And we will be back in a few minutes. Thank you. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com.

We want to thank you for tuning in and listening to the Christian Car Guy Show. We know a lot of you tune in every week. This particular show means a lot to me because it's wonderful to see opportunities to help people do better. I used to teach lifeguards to be lifeguards, and lifeguards were taught never to jump in unless you had to. What you wanted to do was to reach out with something that somebody could grab hold of, whether it was a stick or a towel, and.

If you are drowning, one you got to realize you are drowning, and two you've got to reach out for whatever helps there. If you are not willing to reach out for the help, you know it's ridiculous for somebody to drown along with you.

So, if you are talking to somebody and you say, "Are you really sick and tired of your life?" Yeah, they're answers. God helps people through people. God helps people through programs, and they're ways to make your life substantially better if you're willing to put in the work. It's amazing to me that that work can be done in three months. There are technical schools across the nation with programs and.

People don't realize there's ways to use those programs, even if you don't have any money. But it means that you've got to show up at the right place, knock on the door, say, "May I please have some help?" and then you've got to listen. And in Forsyth County, we've got an unbelievably wonderful goodwill on Coliseum Drive. And across the nation, there're goodwills that are there. You show up at their main office, and you knock on the door, and you talk to the person.

And when they say, "What do you need?" you say, "I need help." I want my life better. I want to make some decent money. I want to be a great parent to my kids. I want to be a good spouse. What opportunities are there?

And they can say to you, "These are the opportunities that are available. Pick one." Now, would you share one? We need to realize that when we take something to Goodwill and Goodwill cleans it up and it puts it on a shelf, as somebody else comes in and buys it, that that money that they make. Funds all these programs that helps those people that are on the side of the street get off the side of the street. It helps the young mother that's got a drug or an alcohol problem after they deal with the problem, find a way to make a decent living.

And those livings are far better than the people standing there at the counters. Yes, sir. But you've got to stand at the counter long enough to say, "I want to be productive. I want to have a good attitude." I'm willing to make some changes in my life. Those people standing there in that store—that is a first step into a program that allows them, in a very, very short period of time, to come out with a really good job.

We're talking fifty, sixty, seven thousand dollars a year, starting if you're a. Driver or a long haul driver. Long haul driver. Any allied health care programs, so nursing, sonography, those those programs like that. Again, the goal is to help individuals with a hand up and not a handout.

And so again, our goal is to make sure individuals can live their fullest life that they choose, and we provide those supports and services through our career navigators to do that. And again, by you donating and by shopping in our stores, funds our mission and impacts our communities. I've got a dear friend of mine. Whose son went to Goodwill and started their welding program. Graduated the welding program, got a welding job, making decent money.

He moved up in management, just a couple rungs. Then he got a job working for these great big trucking companies, sitting there saying, "You need to drive to this spot and stop, and you need to look out for this problem, and your truck is overheating." He he looked after that fleet, and in ten. Years is making unbelievably wonderful money, but he had to go through that door to be able to get to where he is. Nobody can look at somebody that is minimum wage doing next to nothing, sorry about their life, and say, "Boy, you look like somebody that needs to make fifty thousand dollars a year." But If you get the right attitude and the right training and the opportunity to prove that you're the type person that makes an employer money. Then an employer that realizes that you're valuable is more than willing to pay you more because they don't want to lose you.

Correct. Can you share a success story or two, please, sir?

So again, we work with individuals each and every day, and so our goal is to help them get engaged in training, and so we help individuals through our Justice Navigation Program, and so we have individuals who are returning citizens who. Are able to come into our program, obtain a skills based trade, and then go start working. And again, we we have those success stories each and every day because of the amount of individuals we touch. And again, our goal is to help individuals with a hand up, not a handout, and make sure we provide those supports and services throughout our programs and throughout our individual career navigators. And Anita, can you share another success story about one of the ladies that has gone through your program?

Yes, of course. I would again share. We have another participant as well at Goodwill who is going through the program, and she is employed there as well. We have so she went through vocational rehabilitation. She she also did schooling while she was at Holly House.

She started her her college experience there, and then she went through a store programs which called Successor Outcomes. After release was a program by the city of Winston Salem. She graduated from there, and then from there she went to Goodwill, and she's working at Goodwill now. Reunited with her daughter and her grandchildren, is doing really well.

So we've had so many ladies that come through Holly House that's connected with Goodwill, connected with other programs that helps them to get. To be self-supporting. Are there volunteer opportunities at Holly House? Are there ways that a church group or a family or an individual could make a difference? That's a great question, Bill.

Yes, it is. We have volunteers that come in from churches that does Bible studies. They come in. They do different activities with our ladies, as far as making vision boards, as well as doing crafts, sitting with them, talking with them, praying with them.

So we're really grateful for that as well as we have volunteers to come in and bring meals because our ladies, you know, when you come in out of active addition, sometimes we lose lose some of those life skills and they have to learn how to cook. Over some have to be rehabilitated and some have to be rehabilitated to where they have never been able to cook due to their trauma experiences.

So we have churches that come in and bring bring them a meal weekly, so they don't have to cook. They just have a rest day.

Now, if as I remember, it's been a while since I've helped. The ladies have to get on the phone and find a job. The ladies have to figure out how to get their transportation to some different places. There, the ladies can use some help accomplishing some of those jobs because not everybody is comfortable making phone calls or introducing themselves. You've got some like junior council.

Counselor, things folks can do. Um.

So yes.

So our ladies, um. We have different partner agencies, of course. Excuses that we work with, they can do life skills. They do life skills classes at I don't know if you're familiar with C to C corner to corner down at Union Baptist Church. They do life skills classes there.

They go to Goodwill as well and do their resumes.

So we partner with people before they even go out into the community to find jobs. They don't have to get on the phone. We pretty much connect them with other people. In Forsyth County, they can call the YWCA and say, "I need." The opportunity to help. Would you please put me in contact with Danita?

In other areas, you can find out what treatment programs are in your county and your city, and you can call those programs up and to say, "Our church would like to pray for you. Our church would like to put a box out so people can put in items that you need. We would like the opportunity to help you." So I would say to you that the good Christians in this audience have. A family. They've got a Sunday school class.

They've got a church. You need to get connected with the folks that are making a difference in your community.

So, please, after this show, do some praying about Holly House. Do some praying about the Good Year. The programs that help people and tell folks their answers, and if you've got to help them make some phone calls, make some phone calls. We appreciate you tuning in. We hope you come back next Saturday, and we hope you have a wonderful week.

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