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January 10, 2026 12:15 pm

The host and guest discuss the concept of leaning on the everlasting arms, exploring the idea of authority and its connection to God's power. They share personal stories and experiences, including a mechanic's tale of how he met his wife, and offer advice on finding a trustworthy mechanic. The conversation also touches on the importance of leaning on God in times of loss and hardship.

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This is the Truth Network. I go to the rock of my salvation. I go to the stone that the little sweet chicken. I run to the mountain and the mountain stands by me when the earth all around me is sinking stands. On Christ's solid rock I stand.

Welcome to the Christian Car Guy Radio Show. this calls for action and now nip it in the bud. Yep, it's a. And you'll not have limpet in the back. What have I to dread?

What have I to fear? Leaning on the everlasting arms. I have blessed peace with my Lord so near. Leaning on the everlasting arms. Leaning on Jesus, leaning on Jesus, safe and secure from all alarms.

Leaning on Jesus, leaning on Jesus, leaning on the everlasting arms. I am leaning on the everlasting arm. Leaning today on the Christian Carguy Show. How fun is that, right, Bob? I love some bluegrass, brother.

That is actually backwoods bluegrass. Isn't that awesome? Yes, sir. I gotta tell you, I've always loved, love, loved that song. Oh, I could spend a lot of time on that.

But I got to tell you that. You know You can't help but love that song the more you sing it, right, Bob? Absolutely. That's the best way to get through any day.

So. What I've learned this week, literally, I it's just it just absolutely blew my mind and perhaps showed me more why I love that song so much. You know, have you ever wondered why they say Adam Fell? In the sin. Right.

or that you say, Well, that person fell. In the sin. And again, you get this idea of leaning, and you'd never really thought about it before. Or I hadn't seen the connection. But I think when you see what I'm going to explain later on, you're going to go, oh my goodness, look at that, and how wonderful it is to lean on.

On something that you know is not going to give way, and no matter the earthquake. I would point out that that's an old song by Aaron Jeffrey. I absolutely loved at the beginning, but at the very, very beginning of that intro. It was actually They were tornado sirens, that had somehow or another sinked into making that harmony. And so, maybe if you go back and listen to the podcast later, you'll be able to hear it.

Those are actually aeroid sirens that are signing that earthquake that's fixing to happen. But they had sinked. And created that, and this guy caught that on YouTube, and I just thought it was spectacular. You know, I can originally just use a siren, but when I heard that, man, I got to go with that. That sounds too cool.

Plus, it doesn't freak people out and think they're being pulled over. And so, very fun today. If you listened to last week, you know, we have a new segment comes up at the bottom of the hour. It's called The Legendary Garage of RK, 88 years old and still full throttled. My dear friend and member of my church, who he works as hard as anybody I know.

Clearly, taking transmissions out of cars at his age. Big trucks, man. I'm telling you, he's got a shop in the back of his house and he works every single day. In fact, he saved my bacon again in the Model A this week on Wednesday. He had to open up the points.

But nonetheless, RK is going to be with us at the bottom of the hour, and I think you're going to want to hear this because he wants to share the story of how he met his wife. As a mechanic. It's pretty awesome. I've heard the story. I think you're going to enjoy that.

And so, when you think of leaning on the everlasting arms, and I know you've been doing that this week, right, Bob? Absolutely. It's been necessary and. it was very helpful to have those arms to lean on. And you're just talking about A Adam Fail.

Um, so many times in my life I jumped in the sea, you know? I just I don't know what I was thinking, but Yeah, we're going to get into that, but for those who don't know, you know, Bob's. Wrecking I already had for years and years is one oh nine new pull it. And His son went to be with the Lord on 109. And so yesterday was the 12th anniversary of that.

So this is a good time to lean on the everlasting arms. And you know, I heard this story years ago, and as we began to do the Jesus Labor Love, which, if you've been listening to Christian Car Guy for some time, you know, we have a ministry to single moms and widows. And families in crisis called the Jesus Labor Love. And it is an opportunity for people to lean on those everlasting arms. And we're very, very, very proud of the fact that we Named it Jesus Labor Love, so there's never any question where the help came from.

And that was all part of that deal. But years ago, I heard this story actually before I started that ministry, or we started that ministry, and. It stuck with me so much I actually In my daily prayer, I kind of have written out that I get started with every morning. I have this story. you know, kind of outline so I'll remember it.

Especially the punchline of this story, or whatever you want to call it, because it's so. explains what we're going to get into here.

So years ago, there was this missionary and they were on furlough and they had been given a very nice, understand in South Carolina, very nice lake house. In order to, you know, try to raise funds to stay out on the mission field. This lake house, as you might imagine, had a little pier, and on the end of that pier, you know, there was a little you know, rowboat that like you would just picture and this picture as seen this particular day, um He had a daughter and a cousin that it was staying over, and he had like a three-year-old son. And The thr the two girls who who were I understand seven or eight, they were supposed to watch the three-year-old. Right.

And they were, of course, playing dolls or whatever else happened, and the father was working, you know, in the in the boathouse, which wasn't terribly far from the pier. Nonetheless, as the girls were playing, they lost track of their three-year-old little brother. Can you imagine that? And he, of course, made his way down that dock thinking he was going to get in that little rowboat. But He didn't quite calculate it correctly, and they all heard the splash.

As he went in, of course, little girls immediately realized their brother was nowhere to be found. They screamed. The dad heard the scream. The dad runs out. all realizing that the little boy's underwater, right?

And so he rushes out to the end of this pier. And he jumps in the water, but it's cloudy, you know, like lake water would be. And he can't see the little boy. And of course, he's reaching out with everything he's got, his hands as far as he can go, his arms, his legs, just seeing if he could touch the little boy somewhere. He has an idea where he went in, but he can't find him.

And he c finally comes up you know, takes a Gulp of air thinking, Man, how in the world is my son surviving? 'Cause he's been in the the water since the scream, right? And I've got to take air right now. What's he doing? And of course he's panicking, so he takes that breath of air and he goes back down again, reaches out with all he can, frantically searching, and he finds his son.

with a death grip on the pier or the dock. And he literally can't peel him. off the pier of the dock. In other words, he's struggling, struggling to get his son to release his three-year-old got a death grip on the pier. Eventually he pries his hands off.

He takes them to the surface. gives him mouth to mouth, whatever. Essentially little boy is is going to be okay. Yeah, you didn't want to hear that other part of the story, but you know After about an hour or so, when the boy had totally revived, you know, the father was like, so. you know, Johnny, whatever his name was.

Uh you know Why did you hold on to that pier? I mean, why wouldn't you let go? Why did you have a death grip on that pier? When you obviously. You know, you'd been under there for so long.

And he said this, which just will stick with me forever. It really will, Bob. I don't forget it. I never forget it. He said because I knew you'd come.

Mm. Mm. Hmm. I found my son. And he had been there for A really huge amount of time, and he was still alive when we found him.

when I found him that morning and There were so many things that could have been just a little bit different, but I can't get hung on hung up on what could have been or why this or why that because There's not an answer. But I I just I just can't help, especially with you saying that. Can't help but think that he was old dad's coming. Go ahead. And I got there, but I didn't get the result when needed, but Another dad was waiting on him.

Amen. Amen. The the real one. And, you know, that's the one that Honestly, we can lean on no matter what and and no matter how. But I bet you have an experience like that.

Maybe it was just today. Maybe it was a week ago. 866-348-7884. I'm going to explain what I got to explain to you about this idea. of leaning and and what that has to do With the letter Somic.

Oh my goodness, it's just amazing. We're going to be right back. And we got RK coming, so much show. And we would love to hear your leaning story: 866-348-7884. We'll be right back.

It's a no way. Yes. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Yeah. That's Aaron Jeffrey, right?

And we're talking today about leaning, right? As we think about the song, Leaning on the Everlasting Arms and all sorts of things.

Well, God showed me something this week that just literally just was a game changer for me in understanding of why we fall. And what all is involved in that. And so, what I was actually studying. Baptism is where I headed. You know, and I was looking at the passage that's in Matthew 21 where Jesus asked the Pharisees came and asked him, you know, by what authority are you teaching this stuff?

And he said, Well, before I ask her that answer that question, let me ask you a question. He said, The baptism of John You know. Was that from the authority of heaven or was that from the authority of man? And the fascinating thing about that question is, Jesus never answers it. He was kind of tricky like that, wasn't he?

But nonetheless, it posed a question for me, like, okay, well, yeah.

So John's baptism was under some authority. From heaven. And it isn't very far after that that Jesus. When he gives the Great Commission in Matthew 28, he says, All authority has been given to me, right? And then he says, Go make disciples of all nations, baptizing them.

But again, he starts out by this using this word authority. And so when he said all authority was given to me, I thought, well. Just so that I could get a feel of the word, so I could truly understand the word. I like to go back and God directs me to look at that word in Hebrew. And so, a careful study of what that word would look like in Hebrew, I came to an astounding.

Astounding conclusion. That the word In Hebrew, is the letter, the 15th letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Which is Isamic. Which Yeah. If you read the 119th Psalm and the letter Psalmic, it'll tell you it's something that upholds you.

It holds you up. It's a fascinating thing that authority holds you up to some extent, but if you're really under God's authority, it's truly. Holding you up. And as a matter of fact, you know, when they commissioned Joshua in the Old Testament, when Moses laid hands on him, when he laid his hands on him, it was under that authority. Of the laying on of hands that is literally supporting Joshua, that continues to support him through his ministry, that that.

Authority is like that. But see, what happened was when Adam Chose another authority other than God's authority to make his decision. Right? Am I going to eat this fruit? that my wife's handed me Or am I going to subject myself to God's authority, which He said, don't do it.

And the very second that Adam did that, it sent the whole world. The world we know, the earth, out of Kiltra, was no longer under God's authority because man had made this other choice to go by this other authority. Whatever authority it was, if it isn't God's, it will crumble. There's so many times in my life I just felt like I needed to reject authority and Um That never worked out very well. No, because with his authority, or if you lean on him, it leads to life.

But any time you go by your own authority, if you lean on your own understanding, you're actually. leaning on death. And it crumbles underneath you because it falls in on itself. Just like the earth actually did that day.

So when Jesus had just risen, in Matthew 28, Jesus had risen from the dead. He'd brought life back. And he was under God's authority. And he is God's authority. I mean, it's kind of an amazing thing, the whole thing, but that's what he meant: look, the authority has changed.

And if you lean on me, But that's a big if. And it's not just an if for eternal life. It's a wonderful if for eternal life. Yes, you lean on him for eternal life. But in the next five minutes, You'll have several opportunities to lean on him.

Robbie, how are you going to do this show this morning? You're going to lean on me, or are you going to go on your own understanding, right? And and or some simple things like. This week I was really struggling eating sweets. Right?

Because coming off Christmas, you know, if you're diabetic and you've eaten them, then you develop a taste for that stuff, and it tastes like if you're diabetic. It tastes like You're going to die. And it won't be long after you eat it that you'll be really sorry that you did. And As I began to get this understanding, I went, oh, wow, how much easier would this be if I just accepted the authority? Of praying, God should I eat this?

And then once I do, I'll lean on that. And I'll need to lean on my stomach any more or lean on my taste. That's just amazing. You know, rejecting authority and bucking up and just, you know, going against. the things we know we should do.

It's just being such a a permanent part of my life and and I still struggle with it every day. I mean, I don't need that fifth Oreo after three or four. Right, well, let me give you the power before I run out of time. The power of the letter Somic, okay? That letter is a circle.

Now, all letters in the Hebrew are a picture, they're also a word. But that picture is a circle. And the circle has to do to some extent with gravity. And if you think about The sun Gravity has authority over the earth. And Saturn's gravity has authority over the rings, right?

And you can decide that it doesn't have authority all you want, you're still fallen. And it's a fascinating thing that gravity completely supports you. You wouldn't be able to take a breath without gravity. But by the same time, if you decide to jump out of an airplane, it will crush you. It's not the fall that kills you.

It's that sudden stop at the end.

However, it works, but that's the power. Literally, the. The power of that letter Is phenomenal cosmic power. But you know, like in Aladdin, you might remember that little scene where he said, you know, phenomenal cosmic power, itty-bitty living face, right? Meaning the lamp was itty-bitty living space.

But the idea of that is like God has this phenomenal cosmic power. But yet when he holds you in his hand... It doesn't crush you. Right? I know we're talking about the gravity of the Sun.

But when he holds you in his hand, It's amazing, right?

So, how about you? When did he hold you in your hand? When we come back, we're going to hear the legendary garage of RK 88 and still full throttle. We'll be right back. 866-34TRU.

You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. What have I to dread? What have I to fear? Leaning on the everlasting arms I have blessed peace with my Lord so near, leaning on the everlasting arms leaning on Jesus, leaning on Jesus, safe and secure from all alarms, leaning on the everlasting arms, and now time for the legendary garage of RK88 and Bill Folthrom. How fun.

We got RK back this morning with us, Bob and RK live from Kildeen, North Carolina. I know you you got some stuff for us today, right, R.K. Whatever you like, I I I'm sitting here thinking and last night just all week long what to say and And to your listeners, what would be helpful to them or something that they would like appreciate, you know, and So I thought of How I met my wife. Uh And it it was an automobile problem. And I remember Can I set that up just a second before you tell the story, RK?

So R.K.'s wife went to be the Lord A year ago, Christmas. A year ago, tomorrow. Mm. Oh, t two y it was a year ago tomorrow? Yes.

Oh, wow So on the 11th of January. Yes. Oh, wow.

So it's fresh. And so, this makes this story a little more precious to know. You're hearing the story of how he. As a mechanic. Now this this has a mechanical aspect to it.

So now go ahead, RK.

So I had a little shop in Fort Morris, New Jersey. It was years and years ago they used to have a uh port there, you know, and the canals and stuff. And I was in the office about five o'clock on a Friday afternoon. And I had a customer there I just finished up. working on her car and she was paying me the bill and this this gal come in It's wintertime.

It's a big overcoat on and high heels, blonde. And when I'm sitting down here, I'm looking up this wow, this is a big cow here. And I. I stopped for a second and I said, Can I help you? She says Tommy McDonough sent me over here.

I said, who Tommy from the body shop? Yeah. He says, you're a Cadillac man. I sort of smiled a little bit. He goes, Yeah.

Adelaide, Chevrolet, Buick, to me, it's an autoview work the same.

So she says, What's the problem? She says, My horn blows in the middle of the morning in the middle of the night, two o'clock in the morning. This is winter time.

So I said What what have you done? She says, Well, I put two Cadillac horns on it again. I started to smile because the Cadillac horns were Delco horns at that time. They weren't Cadillacs, they were just Delco horns.

So I just kept smiling. I said, Well, what else have you done? She says, Nothing. I can't we can't figure it out. And the neighbors are getting mad at me 'cause they're blown in the morning.

I said, Couldn't you leave the car? Uh Uh uh tonight i said yes i said couldn't you leave the car now She said, Well, I have no way of getting home. I said, Well, I'll take you home.

So I Took the car in and I tried to figure out what was wrong with the horn. And by 8 o'clock, I had found a broken wire. I said, okay. I think that's it.

So I called her up, I said, I'll come pick you up. We came back, we sat there talking, we fogged up the windows just talking, guys. And I said, She says, If I'd known you were gonna do this, I would have brought you in and had it had something to eat or a drink or something or coffee. I said, no, it's okay. I'll take a rain check.

So a week later. Uh about three hours. I she was a widow. I was divorced. And I wasn't, believe me, I wasn't looking for a friendship, but this gal was so like, I mean, she was just.

Beautiful to me, you know, and uh and I t and I just laughed, you know, so I take a rain check.

Well, anyway, a week later I called her up and she works for Menden Bureau, she was That secretary, she had about seven jobs and they wouldn't pay her so good money. But anyway, I called her up a and I said, Hey, how's your horn? This is our chaotic sales. She says. It blew at two o'clock in the morning.

I said, Oh, no. I joking. Bring it in, bring it in. And I said. I look at it on Friday, but she had worked that she needed it all day.

And then I said, Friday night, I was not doing anything. I said, bring it in. I'll work on it. Finally, about eight o'clock, I got mad at it. and I punched the steering wheel And it never stopped.

Growing. And the problem was In the wintertime, the vinyl on the horn Bezel It would it would shrink. through the sponge and and into the inlay of the copper and blows a horn. And that's how I met my wife. And we and another little story, we were together, and I still have the car, I still have her car, I still have that part.

And I won't I it's part of me. And I said I s I I said I didn't Say anything then to her, but I did call her up and ask her out at a later date. And we were three, four months into dating and I ran out of money and I needed twenty three thousand dollars. And she looked at me like I had three eyes. And I said, I says, can I borrow $23,000?

He says, what did you do? I said, I overdraft, I overdraft. My bank account is Piled it up.

So She agreed. And then we bought the car. This is dope. This is funny. I got the car that the 23,000 finally figured it out.

I brought it home. And we took it to the fellow to see it. It was my lawyer. Oh, I don't want brown. My I I had a touchy with fall through the floor.

Mm-hmm. She said, What are we going to do? I said, Well, we're going to go back to the auction.

Well, lo and behold, a week later, we took her back to the auction. And it did 23,700. It was a Lincoln Town car, 88. And it did 23,700 that same day. In came in comes a 2000, same model, 1988, black.

Identical model, but black with 1,100 miles on it. He traded in on an RV after he had it for a week.

So I bought that car, took it home and we made the deal and everything was fine. And she turned around and looked at me and after that and she said, If we ever stay together, you're not going to do any more paperwork. But that was the truth. Getting back to the story with the horn, right? which I think is kind of the subject matter of the of the day.

And I bet you Bob, how many times have you had a wiring problem that oh my n y you Wiring was never my forte. We had a place we would If it was a wiring problem, we took it to a certain place because we were just limited. And the right person working on your wiring can save you so much money. if they can diagnose it and find it quick.

So many times they use the shotgun approach and just fix everything around it and maybe get it. Right, like he did replace the horn. And so. The point I'm trying to get to, RK. Is everybody It's listening, some people are in You know, Seattle, Washington today.

Some people are in Michigan.

Some people are in Dayton, Ohio. You know, we have stations all over the world that literally carry the show.

So how would you tell them to find A decent mechanic, somebody that could actually trace a wiring problem because every mechanic in the world can't do that. Like you said, they're going to replace two horns and then scratch their head. Yeah, I Well Rubber. I came for the old school, I guess. My dad opened up in 1922 in West Orange, New Jersey.

He did all Thomas A. Edison's vehicles back then. And he and then he had a problem with his brother and the brother, and they separated and he went on to work for a lot of different companies. Wilsonville Cadillac He worked for a lot of dealers. I didn't even know Thomas Edison had a brother.

No, no, no, his brother, my father's brother. Oh, your father's brother.

Okay. Yeah, my they opened up in 2020. Larry Edison. I don't know. I'm sorry.

No, no, no, it's okay.

So I grew up in this, my dad grew up in this, of course, and then. And I came along thirty seven and he he finished working for Heinrich Scholz at that time went to work for for General Motors. And 37 forty four or forty five during the war. And he and he taught the He learnt the automatic transmission, the first hygromatic out. He learnt that transmission and he taught it to the shops in North Jersey.

You would go around to the dealerships. He was a service manager. If he told you what to do, the mechanic, he could do it himself. They don't have people like that too much anymore. They could do that.

And that's when I came along 37, I said, What do we? He says, This is what we do. I thought, Okay, this is what we do. And I didn't ever went to school after high school, but I did go to seminars and courses of different places that had things on it. But I learnt.

Through him. The transmission and how to do everything. I was in the service and I did it also in mechanical. Wow, I can't. I hate we're out of time.

I have. A couple more questions for you, RK, so stay through the break for us. We'll hopefully get to the bottom of this. How you can find a good mechanic, and we thank you so much for being right back, along with your stories on leaning. We'll be right back.

You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Yeah. Sirens. We are leaning today on the Christian Car Guy Show, and we were leaning at the end of the last segment on our. Good friend, the legendary RK, 88 years old and still doing transmissions and engines and wiring.

And I can assure you, based on the fact that. Last Wednesday I was sitting on the side of the road and Killed D and RK came to my rescue, and we needed some points opened on the male. And I was, I loved what he, after he got it started and I started to go down the road, I heard him yell, happy motoring. There you go. But anyway, when we left our hero arcade, we had asked the question: how for these other folks, right?

You got a wiring problem, man. You just don't want to. Oh man, people throw so many parts at it, even a wiring harness or a body controller, some stuff that's crazily expensive. and not fix it, right? And so how do you find the guy that you can trust, that you've And let me just start out by before A couple things.

Number one, what we're talking about in this show, pray. Ask God, like, help me. Like, I need your wisdom to find the guy. And I feel like I did. I found RK.

I mean, I'm just saying. But nonetheless. And the second thing is. I would love for you to Because I've heard you say this probably ten times while I watched you walk working on a car. Your dad said it to you when you were a boy And it was just like the motivation that makes it work.

Fix it, Richard. Yes, that's what he said to me. Fix it. Don't just replace that part if it can be rebuilt. Fix what's matter with it.

You want To save the customer money too and help them. If you look at Vermechanic, the first thing. Uh you asked the man uh if he can work on them, number one. And w what would he do and and what would he say? to you, and I I of I often thought this often the good mechanic would say to the woman or the man, What what happened to the car?

What what was what happened to the car before this happened? What were you doing? What was it doing? Uh so he has the background of what's going on rather than just diving through replace parts. Tell me what happened.

Tell me the stuff that happened. Then we can decide what to do with it. Depth. That's what I would do. And uh it's hard to get a good mechanic out there.

Actor A T R A at your Automotive Transmission Rebuilders Association has a has a oath. that if you join them, they've they've been in business since 54. And if you join them. they're they're top notch transmission people and and mechanics. and they will treat you right and they and they have a w world wide worldwide warranty.

uh for your for their work. you can b break down somewhere else and it'd be be fixed through through their warranty.

So that's a good outfit to know. It's good. I can put that link up. I've never honestly never heard of it. Ha how do you spell it?

RK? A A T R A Automotive Transmission Rebuilders Association.

Well, there we go. We learned that. We'll put the link up after the show, RK. As always, you're spectacular. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your contribution today.

I love it. I love it. I love you too. Really enjoyed hearing you today, brother. Keep up the great work, and we will talk next week.

Okay, great. Thank you. God bless. Thank you. Bye-bye.

Alright. I know you got a leaning story. You wanted to get in. You got time to call us 866-348-7884-866-34TRUTH. Bob, when you think about this idea of leaning.

Uh Just all my life. The biggest part of my life I spent leaning on the wrong things, jumping into the wrong things, diving in, but you know There's just such a better way to do things and uh You know, it's it's become apparent to me that the new plan is much better than the old plan, 'cause the results are a whole lot better. Right. Right, right. And I I can tell you that Um Fortunately, we've got a couple of people calling in.

I'm anxious to hear what they're saying. But I. can think of so many real critical situations I found myself in. like just being hit by a car. Like Or being hit between two cars.

Or hit being hit between two cars. And the immediate thing I did, and I'll never forget, was. call out and leaned on the rock and I mean it was it was unforgettable experience So we got Paul calling in. uh Paul Williams. And so old friend, I would love to hear.

So Paul, you're on the Christian Car Guy Show. Good morning. Good morning, Robbie Dilmore. Good morning, Bobby Young. Good morning, brother.

When somebody calls me Bobby, I know they're a blast from the past. Great to hear your voice today. Great to hear your voice. It was just a rush to see you two guys together this morning on the video part of the cast. Um Yeah, for those who don't know, and I imagine many don't, Paul.

was Uh for me I had a searchlight company when we had the dealership. It was Searchlights of the Carolinas. And Paul. Came and ran that, and we had the best time working on these old. Searchlights from the World War II, they they they they filled the sky.

We also had a sky tracker, and I had a love for them things, and so did Paul. Paul, um Got a chance to keep him afterwards, but good, good, good, good friend. And how did it did and he's from Yadkinville, so you must have known him growing up. We went to school together. Really?

Yeah, two one or two years. He Bobby's mama uh taught me how to swim. Really? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

And I may have assisted her in that. I'm not sure.

Well, Bobby was the lifeguard at the time at the country club where we took our swimming lessons.

So I saw Bobby over there as well. back in the young days when I was just a kid, kid. Wow. We know those days are long in the past. I just turned sixty two, so Yeah, I'm sixty seven now, but your dad was nice enough to uh give me some temporary employment at a time I needed it.

And uh I always thought a lot of him. Yeah. That's amazing. I appreciate that. Bobby, I surely do.

He was a good man. He tried to help everybody that he could.

So, did you have a chance to lean one time, Paul? I've leaned many times, Robbie.

Okay. You know, I've had uh had a lot of a lot of loss in my life. And I know Bobby knows what I'm talking about. It's one of those things that You have to lean on God when you have a loss of that magnitude. or you will lose it, completely lose it.

You've got to have your faith in God to make it through. Yeah, not unlike Bob you lost your daughter. Right. And Yeah, I lost my daughter and Rob lost his son. Yeah.

And we know it's a hard thing to go through. But you wonder how folks that don't have God in their life You wonder how You know what? Whoa. What are they gonna lean on?

So I just Just try to help folks any way I can to understand that You're not going to make it very far by yourself. You know, I did not realize you guys were so such close friends, but I bet. It probably wasn't three or four years' difference between those two funerals I attended. Um Mm yeah, one very many. years apart.

Manda died in in seventeen Rob died in 14. In 2014, so three years. I was just thinking, wow. And um You know, I got to tell you, and I'm sure there's a lot of people that tell you guys this. That you know, it those are just unthinkable things that and to see somebody stand Uh Lenin.

And know that they're leaning, it makes all the difference in the world. I hate that music's on because I would love to further this conversation, Paul. And I know Mike was calling out a date in Ohio, too. But I love you guys, and I'm so grateful for your friendship. And always great to talk to you, Paul, and certainly my friend Bob being right here with you.

Good hearing you today, Paul.

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