Live from the car care studios, it's the CNC Auto Show with your personal on-air and online automotive service advisors, Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney. So climb in, buckle up and enjoy the ride on the CNC Auto Show. And we welcome you to the CNC Auto Show and we are here to share some information on ways to make your car safer, more dependable and to make it last longer for less money. And I am Aaron Clutz.
I'm John Ryan. And we are here to answer your automotive questions. And along with answering your automotive questions, we have a tech tip quiz.
We'll share some tips on how to find the shop that's right for you. And we have everything that we need here to have a great show. But you, you can fix that by dialing 706-863-5800. That's on Saturday mornings, 805 to 10. And I want to remind you that you can also watch this show and past shows at ccautoshow.com or on Facebook. Now, we normally start out the show with a tech tip quiz. So we will do that once again. And we did, oh, John Ryan wasn't here last week, but I need to mention this.
What you got? We did not get the contact information of last week's winner. And that winner actually won a special prize because he won a $25 gift card from O'Reilly Auto Parts.
I got you. And of course, they have better parts, better prices every day. And he would be able to take that $25 gift card and go in O'Reilly Auto Parts and pick out something really nice. Well, we didn't, we were having some technical issues and the phones went dead right after he answered that. And he knows he's the winner because I told him.
So I'm hoping he'll give us a call back. This week's winner will win the I answered the tech tip quiz coffee mug kit, which includes the coffee mug. And it says on the side, I answered the tech tip quiz. Here's the question. TJ was walking out of the mall and did not see his car where he thought he had parked it. He tried his panic button with no success. So he grabbed his friend and held something to his friend's head and was able to find his car. What did he hold to his friend's head and how did that help him find his car? And if you do know the answer to that, all you have to do is give us a call.
And that number is 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800. And John Ryan, today's show, one of the things that we were planning to do was talk about how to find a shop that's right for you. OK. Many, many people listen to the show in different areas.
So they drive many different types of cars and they are like different levels of service done to their cars and communicate different ways. So I think it's important to let people know the things that they can do to find the shop that is right for them. Yeah, for sure. And of course, one of the first things that we want to mention is when you should find a shop. Before you need it.
Exactly. You want to find that shop before you need the shop because if you, many times you may have moved, you may have bought a different type car than you had before. Just a lot of different reasons why you might be looking for a different shop. But you want to know the steps that you can go to find that. And you don't want to wait until you have some type of issue with your car and have to make a very tricky decision.
Yeah, a quick one, too. And have to make it very fast. You want to find somewhere that you trust early in the game. And we recommend doing your research before you have a problem. And in that way, you have time to build that trust and build some communication with the shop that you're going to be dealing with.
And we'll, throughout the show, we'll give a lot of different tips on things that people can do to find the shop that's right for them. But you know what we do now? We go to the phones.
That's right. Let's do it. All right, let's go to James. Hello, James, and welcome to the C&C Auto Show. And what can we help you with today?
I want to answer the quiz. Oh, James, you know when you do that, we have to put you on stage first, right? Oh, I guess so. All right, well be still.
Okay. And James, we are ready for you to answer today's tip-tip quiz. And what is it?
The key fob that opens the door. He held it up to his chin to give it more output. Oh, James. Really? Thank you.
Thank you very much. James, you're absolutely right. Now, that was pretty quick that you got that. Have you heard that before? Yes.
Hey, I heard it a while back. Have you ever tried it, James? Yes. Does it seem to work?
Yes. I thought that it might be good. During the year, the C&C Auto Show team would put together a test. And we would park cars, park the car in walk different areas and try it without holding it to the chin and withholding it to our chin and find out if that is in fact true. Now, the items that I've read so far, most people say that that is absolutely true. That if you hold that to your chin, it will work because, of course, the skull and the fluids in your head act as an amplifier.
And one thing that I thought about, James, the reason that I thought that this could be true, I mean, it's very possible. You remember many, many years ago before all the cable and the other things that they had, and you had those little rabbit ear TVs. As you were holding the antenna, it would work. And there were times where if you were watching a show that you'd have to stand there and hold the antenna to finish watching it.
Just run you some wire to the couch? I remember that. Yeah.
So, yeah, I guess it is possible. But in any case, one thing that is more than possible, it's an absolute fact, is that is that you have won the TechKit Quiz today. And we want to say congratulations on that.
You're a TechKit Quiz prize package winner. And, James, your life has changed now. It's totally different. You're a new person. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Oh, yeah. You're a winner. Congratulations.
And stay on the line. We'll get the information from you so that we will be able to get you all your prizes. And, oh, and we'll probably set it up if you're in the area, set it up for you just to come by and pick up a prize. And, James, we appreciate you calling and answering our TechKit Quiz. He's on hold. Oh, on hold. Okay. So where do we go next? Oh, we got about two minutes so we can get the next James on the line.
Oh, wait a minute. We got a second James on the line. Hello, James, and welcome to the C&C Auto Show. What can we help you in? Well, good morning to you both and Merry Christmas.
I need some help finding a certain type of shop for a certain type of work. I was planning to call with this question anyway, but it looks like it matches nicely with what your theme is today. So that's good. That worked out perfect.
Yeah, it did. Yes. I love it. Good.
Okay. One of my cars is a Crown Victoria that spent its first five years in the state of Minnesota. So it has on it some areas of sheet metal rust. The locations are just underneath the door and on two cases and two incidences. And one of the incidences is just begin to bubble the paint on the visible side of the door skin and there's another spot on one of the dog legs right there in front of the rear wheel opening. Now, here's where I need the help. Here in South Carolina, every other car I've bought has, of course, come from down here and that's not a condition that's usually a challenge for auto body shops. So what I'm looking for is maybe some indication from you what I should look for to find a shop that might have experience in dealing with sheet metal rust on cars in an area where it doesn't usually happen. Oh, James, that is a great question.
Tricky part. We have run out of time on this segment, but we can put our research department on this and I may even bring one of our body shop experts in on the call and we will discuss and we will come up with an answer to your issue there, James. So if you'll hold just for a little bit, we'll be right back. Let's head back down to the car care studio with Airman Clements and John Ryan Mooney. If you need auto parts, O'Reilly Auto.com is just a few clicks away, offering convenient options for you to get your parts quickly. Order online at O'ReillyAuto.com and pick up for free at your local O'Reilly Auto Parts store.
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That number is 706-863-5800. That's Saturday mornings, 805 to 10 Eastern time. We were talking to James and James had an issue with a Crown Vic. It come from Minnesota, had some rust in the fender area, which I can almost picture that because of course the road salt flying up from the wheels hitting that over a period of time does cause some rust to come in. And we are coming up with some answers. And James, did that sound accurate, the things that I mentioned?
Yes. It's on the rear fender if you classify the dogleg, the short narrow area between the rear wheel opening and the rear door, as well as when you open a door and you've got that space between, this is on the underside of the door, the space between the weather strip and the door skin. It's only about an inch wide and it's the downward facing edge of the door, two of the doors right where the body skin makes that curl and is pinched onto the bottom of the door frame between that weather strip and the door skin. Commonly cars will get rust there if they've been in the north. And this car has it on two of its four doors, sort of a tricky spot.
Okay. And what is a little tricky for a person to find a shop that will do that is that they have a lot of concerns on if it will last. There's so many times a body repair shop can come in and do everything the very best that they can do it, but it will come back. So some of them are very hesitant on getting that done. Now it would be much better if you could find a repair facility or a body shop repair place that has a lot of experience in that. And of course, if you were to go to some of the places in Minnesota and a lot of other states, you would be able to find somebody very quickly because it's a very common thing, but some states don't have it as bad as others. So it's a little trickier to find a shop that says, yes, I'll be glad to do that.
And even those that say yes, they may say yes during one time a year and they may say no the next depending on how busy they are. That's true. Another thing to consider too, now the fender, this scenario wouldn't necessarily fit, but you know, if you repaired the door rust, because of course that's kind of a tricky area.
And like you said, James, where it's pinched on. So of course they would obviously have to do some body prep. Most likely I would assume take the door off.
I'm not positive. Just I guess depends on its location. I guess where I'm going with that is there could be a lot of man hours tied up in it as far as the body work. So you may consider checking to see how much a used door would be that would be maybe from South Carolina, like you said, you know, to replace the doors with. Maybe it would offset rather having higher labor, you know, having a door and repainted and installed maybe cheaper than the labor just to fix the rust on that door. Yeah, and either that or let the body shop know that when you carry it that you realize that it may not be something that will last forever, but they may be able to offer a less expensive repair on something that may not necessarily last as long.
So that would be a that would be a judgment call. But one thing that we did, James, and you'll like this. We actually called our own hold collision repair person. On hold slash asleep. Yeah, well, I wasn't going to say that part. James, he was actually asleep, but we did wake him out of bed to come up with any other answers. He's normally up and on call, and he knew that he was on call, but for whatever reason, he was not. So if you listen in.
Like it's close to Christmas or something. He will be calling very soon, and he may have some other tips on that. Yeah, and I know there's I've heard something about a chemical process that's out there. Oh, that's a good. Part of the restoration actually will neutralize the rust progression. Maybe it's valid. Maybe it's limited success.
Maybe it's a wonderful thing. I don't know about that. And that was hopefully part of what would stop the furtherance of the rust. James, that's a great tip. I did hear about that at some of the car clubs that were talking.
There's a chemical that you put on it and leave it on for a period of time. Great thing. It was your car club show program the other week that made me think, you know what, there may be a way to fix this.
Someone might have in the older cars having to deal with this. So maybe when your professional comes on your show later today, if it's today, that'd be great. Maybe that person can comment further on it. And I appreciate your help. Oh, it'll be shortly. He's getting ready now.
Misplaced his boxers. Okay, James, thank you for the call. All right. Good day. All right. Number to call is 706-863-5800.
If you have a question about your car, truck or SUV, you give us a call. And where will we be going? Let's go over to Blair. All right. Hey, Blair, welcome to the CNC auto show. We got a little over a minute. And if we don't completely answer all of your question, we may ask you to go on hold.
But what can we help with? Hello, Blair. The mixture typically comes in a new car from the dealer. It's 19 degrees down here. And a few years ago, I started a truck up and blew the top off a radiator.
And I want to make sure it's cool to start these cars. Oh, my goodness. Blair, we missed the very first part of your question.
What was that one more time? What antifreeze mixture typically comes in new cars from the dealers? Okay.
Yeah, and that's going to be a 50-50 mix. But there is a little bit more to the question than just what antifreeze. There's a question of what types of antifreeze that they are and what you should put back in if it gets low. I'm going to ask you if you would hang on just a very short period of time because we're going to take a real quick break. And while we're on the break, we'll be putting our complete research department on that question also. And that way we'll be able to get you a lot more information as soon as we return with the show. And also, I'm not sure if we got to hear make and model of that vehicle. He's just curious about new vehicles. On new vehicles in general.
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It's time for more good stuff with Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney. And if you do have a question about your car truck or SUV, give us a call and that number is 706-863-5800. That's Saturday mornings, 805 to 10 Eastern Time.
You can also watch us live on, wait, watch us on Facebook, or you can go to CNC Auto Parts. And John Ryan, we were talking to Blair and Blair had a question about antifreeze in new cars and what would be the correct mixture. Does that sound right, Blair? Yeah, yeah. Like I said, it's 19 degrees down here and I want to make sure that we're not going to get into that. Does that sound right, Blair?
Yeah, yeah. Like I said, it's 19 degrees down here and I want to make sure whatever comes in them is rated for this cold. And what area are you in, Blair? I'm calling from Dublin area.
Dublin area, okay. We do appreciate the call very much and it is a little cool this morning. And on a newer vehicle, well actually pretty much any vehicle, we recommend a 50-50 mix. And on a vehicle, there are different colors of antifreeze.
What type of vehicle do you have? This particular car I'm going to fire up this morning is a Nissan. Nissan, what color of antifreeze? It could be either blue, it could be green, it could be just anything on a Nissan. And one of the things that you want to do is you want to get a type antifreeze that is approved for that vehicle. And you can go to O'Reilly Auto Parts and they'll have a whole shelf full of different type of antifreeze and pick the one out that says it's approved for Nissan.
I don't think he needs any. He's just curious if it's okay to crank. He's worried that he may blow the radiator out from a past experience. No, if you've got a newer car, you're not going to have to worry about that.
Blair, that particular mixture in your vehicle right now, which assuming it's brand new, or not the vehicle, but the mixture is correct, it's 50-50, it should be good to negative 34. So you've got a fair amount to go. Okay, that's what I needed to know, I have no clue. Yeah, if it gets very much colder than that Blair, you may want to put a coat on. Yeah, that's for sure.
Alright, well fantastic. So you're good to minus 34. That's crazy, I don't live in Alaska, so I'm good to go. Your vehicle is ready to minus 34 and that's Fahrenheit and you may not necessarily be ready for that. You'll freeze well before that. Right.
Alright. So what is the recommended 70-30 mixture for? Is that for cooling or is that for freezing? Well, I mean it would change the ratio so that it would not have the protection to go that low, but I personally don't know the benefits to why you would thin it out or dilute it that much personally. Usually in most areas it's going to be a 50-50 mix.
There may be some very special circumstances for a different mixture in different areas, but as a general rule 50-50 mix will be fine. Okay, great guys, thank you. Thank you Blair, we appreciate the call. The number to call is 706-863-5800 if you have a question about your car, truck, or SUV. And John Ryan, who should we be talking to? Let's go to Fred.
That is perfect. Hello Fred and welcome to the CNC Auto Show and what can we help you with? Good morning guys, on a 2009 Duramax engine, if I change the antifreeze, is there anything special? Is there going to get any air pockets going to form or anything or is that pretty much a normal thing? No Fred, that one actually will trap air in the cooling system, but on that particular one, are you familiar with where the upper radiator hose goes into the engine, the thermostat housing? If you look on that, there's a 12mm air bleed bolt right there, it's got a little copper, almost like a brake washer, you know, a hydraulic washer. There's a 12mm that you would crack, of course, and then fill it up, and obviously when you have nothing but straight coolant coming out of that, that would allow the air to escape from the top of that engine. Okay, and one other thing, this motor has two thermostats?
That's correct. Are they both under the housing or is one someplace else? Yes, they are both under that housing, we always recommend many places sell them as a kit, of course, if you get them from the dealer.
So yes, always replace two, and then there's a big O-ring on the backside where that upper housing pipe goes in, you'll want to get that too, otherwise it'll leak if you disturb it. Okay, yeah, because I got a code, a low tank, I don't remember what it was, but it says low coolant temperature, and the gauge on the dash is low. And one other thing, a general question, do you guys ever send out AMF and CD radios, you know, factory radios to get fixed anywhere?
We have in the past, not so much in the recent past, just simply because not many vehicles are equipped with them anymore. Right, okay, so I may have to check another source if I want to have that done. The one that we used to send to was called United Radio, if I'm not mistaken. Where are they located? I think they're in Atlanta, if I'm not mistaken. I was thinking further north, honestly. It might be north, there was one in Atlanta and one further north, and I'm not sure the name, even the name of the other one.
Yeah, I honestly don't remember myself. But you can Google United Radio and it'll let you know exactly where it is. Now there's probably several others besides that, so when you Google radio repair, you may want to definitely look at their reviews and all the other stuff that goes along with that. But I know that that's one that we've sent radios off to.
Right. Okay, I got one other thing I forgot to ask. Do you know how much antifreeze that holds? I got a book, I could look it up. How do you plan to drain the antifreeze?
I guess I'm just going to drain it from the bottom if there's a plug and then just take the hose off and rinse everything out and let all the water come out. And what year did you say it was? 2009.
2009. So believe it or not, most of those did not have a radiator drain at all. It has a quick connect on the lower radiator hose. But just in my experience, I'll be honest with you, if you even look at that hose and remove it, it's going to leak. And of course, that's a very expensive hose that goes all under the bottom of the engine to the recovery tank and all that. So unfortunately, in many cases, that's why we use a cooling exchange machine.
That way we don't physically open the cooling system and of course create more problems than anything. So it may be a good thing to kind of consider getting obviously somebody with the equipment to do that. Yeah, Fred. Sounds like you want to do it yourself, which I completely understand. Well, you know what I'll do? I'll definitely fix the cold running first because that's not good for the motor.
Fred, if you've got a place that you normally go to, you could probably rent that machine and the technician. Yeah. And get it done. All right. Well, the antifreeze doesn't look bad or anything, but I just want to get that coat out of there because it's running the motor cold, especially in this weather.
It's cold. Yeah, absolutely. You can do like the old timers used to do and put a piece of cardboard over half the radiator. Yeah, that's true. All right. Well, thank you very much for your help, guys. Hey, Fred. Great question. Appreciate the call.
Number to call is 706-863-5800, and we do have our collision repair expert on the line. Carol, are you there? Good morning, Aaron. Good morning, General Ryan. Carol, are you going to tell me that you were actually asleep when we called? Yes. Nothing wrong with that.
Along with the rest of the world, man. Here's the breakdown. Here's what we got, Carol. James called and mentioned that he had a Crown Vic been up north in the Minnesota area. I'm not positive he said it was Crown Vic, but did he?
I thought he did. But the doors have some rust areas that have formed on there, and he was trying to come up with the best solution to that. We talked a little bit about body repair, also talked a little bit about a chemical to put on it to keep it from rusting again.
Any input? Well, so where he's talking about, Carol, is the doors on the inside where, like, the drip edge, I would call it, is, and, you know, the sheet metal is clamped onto the door. And then, of course, you know, it has the weather stripping right there, so it's more on the backside of the door, from what I understand.
Well, you probably already know the answer to this. Rust is sort of like cancer. Once it starts and once it gets into the seams and stuff like that, it's almost impossible to get rid of. I mean, there are chemicals, there's one called Ospo. I guess you would say to rust, it is sort of like chemotherapy is to cancer. I mean, you can treat it, it'll get into, it's a very thin liquid, you can put it everywhere. It sort of kills the rust and through an oxidation process, it just dissolves the rust and leaves, you know, a bare metal. But unfortunately, it's not going to get everywhere.
And once you fix it, you prime it and you paint it, there's a good possibility in a very short period of time that the rust is going to reappear. Carol, we're going to put you on hold real quick so we can run to a break and we'll be right back with you. Go ahead, Aaron.
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You can also watch us live at Facebook or ccautoshow.com. We were talking with Carol Proctor, AC Proctor's painting body. We had a caller earlier with a Crown Vic with some rust in the door areas where they normally pick them up at. And Carol was giving us some details on how to, well, first let us know that you may not ever completely stop it, but there's a lot of things you can do to make it better.
Does that sound right, Carol? Yes, and what I was going to say, if in fact it's the Crown Victoria's older car, he might be better off now that he's down south trying to use doors or a used door and replace the door. He might save him some money, it might be a little bit more expensive now, but it would save himself some money in the long run because he gets a door that potentially doesn't have as much rust. The salt up north just plays havoc on body panels. Now those listening to the show in the northern states, are there things that they can do to the vehicle to prevent that rust from forming on a lot of these items? You know, there used to be, I'm trying to remember what it was called now, but when you bought the car you could pay extra money and have the car, you know, they would drill holes. The one I think of, Carol, is Z-BART.
That's it, okay, couldn't remember it. Yeah, you don't see that very often anymore. We see it a little bit at the shop too, just simply because of all the military vehicles. It'll have little stickers that say this vehicle's been impregnated by Z-BART, and all the rocker panels will have little holes and stuff like that in it.
Okay. The problem is the cars that are built today, especially the unibody cars, they have the best corrosion protection you can put on them, because they put it, it's an e-coat, they call it e-coat, and the car is dipped in a vat. The body is, after it's welded together, and the sort of electrostatic, the chemicals... Sounds like powder coating. Yeah, it's a liquid vat, and one of the cars charged with a negative ion and a paint with a positive ion, it goes whoop, and it puts it in every crevice of the car. So the absolute best rust protection you can put on a car is that e-coat primer. I mean, if we strip a panel of bare metal in the body shop, or any good body shop does, we spray an e-coat primer back on it. But, you know, it just, you know, salt just gets in everywhere, and visually the salt will find the small liver where that e-coat didn't get, and then it just starts, it starts the rust process, the corrosion process.
Washing the vehicle off, if you suspect that you may have ran through a lot of salt once you've made your trip, washing a lot of that off is probably your best defense, because it's got everything else from the factory that it should need in many cases. Absolutely, yeah. Okay, Carroll, fantastic man, we appreciate it. And the old Crown Victoria wasn't, you know, it had some e-coating on it, but not near as much as what the unibody cars were.
Yeah, and what they're doing on a lot of the later models. Well, Carroll, we really appreciate you giving us a call, joining the show, and helping to answer that question. You do know you're on call pretty much every Saturday morning, right?
If you didn't know it, we found that out. All right, sounds good. Yeah, call to you all next week, I'm sure.
Thank you, Carroll, we appreciate the call. Number to call, 706-863-5800, we have had some great questions so far, and we have not covered very much having to do with the find your own shop, or how to find a shop that is right for you, so we'll go ahead and cover a couple of those. And one of the best ways to find a repair facility is to ask your family or friends. That's always a great way to find a shop, because if your family or friends had a good experience with somewhere high probability, you'll have a good experience also. And keep in mind, though, it would be family and friends that have a car similar to yours.
Now, of course, you wouldn't want to ask your cousin, Bill, that's got four Mercedes, or a Lamborghini, and a Lamborghini and all of these other type vehicles where he goes, because it may be something a little different than where someone else may want to go. So check with people or check with friends and relatives that have cars similar to yours. If you have moved to another location, and you're just getting settled in, and you'd say, well, I would really love to have a repair shop, call the repair shop that you used to trust where you were at before, and find out if they have any referrals. And then it's a great idea to, once you find a shop that you feel pretty comfortable with, ask your previous repair shop to forward all the records, because all this information is kept in a computer now to where they can print out your history pretty quick. That way, you won't have a new shop recommending something like a timing belt when you start hitting. Let's say you have 110,000 miles and your new shop recommends a timing belt, well, that shop may not know that you just had one done at 90,000 miles. And you would be throwing away a lot of money by doing that.
So having those records to go by can be very, very important. Another great thing you can do when you're looking for a repair facility is to check for reviews. And when you check it for reviews, remember, there will be some bad reviews.
Anyone, any shop, or actually any business that does business, more than likely, they're going to have some bad reviews. But you would want to look for red flags. For instance, if you have someone who has 200 reviews and absolutely no bad reviews.
Or another one's like no icon or no name. Yeah, all of that could be a red flag. Or if you have someone with zero, with maybe 10 reviews, that would be a different story also. So you do want to be sure to do a little bit of research and find out what type of reviews that the company has that you'll be working with.
And that's always a very good thing. And then also, the next step, you'd probably want to go to their website. And look it over and find out if they have pictures. Find out if it looks like a shop that you would be comfortable going into.
You want to look and see if the website looks fairly modern. And that way you get a feel for the place before you start going to the next step, which the next step would be calling the repair facility. Give them a call.
Now this is once you've checked the reviews and checked the website. Give them a call and see if they answer the phone promptly. See if they're polite when they answer the phone. Do they offer to help? And do they have time to talk and give you information? And in short, see if it looks like you can communicate well with that shop when you do.
And if it does look like you'll be able to communicate well, then you want to start moving on into the next step, which the next step would be to visit the repair facility. And you want to go in, see if they have time to talk with you. See if they'll show you around a little bit. Is the shop clean?
Does the equipment look modern? Are the people friendly? Do they have time to talk with you?
Tell you whatever, answer whatever questions that you might have. And look around. See if they have vehicles that are very similar to your vehicle. You wouldn't want to have a Ford and walk in and the shop only have Mercedes BMWs or vice versa.
So you want to get an idea of what type of vehicles that they work on. And then once you do those things, the next step would be to get some work done on a vehicle. And get something small, like maybe an oil change or something like a light bulb replaced or something that you would have the opportunity to just communicate with them. And then once you've done those things, you can start to build the relationship.
If they're the one for you, then you want to make sure that they have all of your contact information that you've got. Okay, time clocks on E for right now. We need to pull over, but we will be back on the road in no time. I'm Aaron Clements with co-host John Ryan Mooney. Show producer Mason Rogers would all like to say thank you to all of you for riding with the CNC Auto Show. And the CNC Auto Show will be back on the road in no time.