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June 21, 2021 2:49 pm

Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney discuss various car-related topics, including brake pad and rotor combinations, speedometer issues, and car safety. They also answer listener questions and provide advice on car maintenance and repair.

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Live from the car care studios, it's the CNC auto show with your personal on air and online automotive service advisors, Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney. So climb in, buckle up and enjoy the ride of the CNC auto show. And we do welcome you to the CNC auto show.

If you're looking for information on ways to make your car truck or SUV safe, dependable long lasting, you're in the right spot and I'm your host Aaron Clements. And we do have Phillip Hawkins of Phillip Hawkins Motor Company riding with us today. Phillip, once again, welcome to the show. Thank you Aaron. It's a pleasure to be here.

We have some background music as we go here, which is great as we're cranking up the CNC auto show and Phillip Hawkins was with us last hour and we were able to answer all types of questions, not only automotive mechanical questions, but also pre-owned car questions and also just a range of other stuff to do with financing paint and body type issues, car facts, questions, just a whole ton of stuff. And Phillip and I has known each other for many, many years. Long time.

Yeah, long time. And we share a passion and that passion is cars. We eat, sleep and drink cars. And I don't know why, I don't know if it's a sickness or I don't know if it's... Oh, it's definitely a disease. Yeah, it's a disease.

There's no cure for it that I found. Well, you got to love them. So we enjoy looking at all of that. So if you have a car question, all you have to do is give us a call in that number, 706-863-5800. And that's Saturday mornings, 805 to 10 Eastern time. And I want to remind you that you can also watch this very show live on Facebook or at ccautoshow.com. All you have to do is give us a call.

I mentioned a couple of quick things. We use a lot of parts here at the shop. And most people know that this radio show is actually done in an actual automotive repair shop. Right below us.

Yeah, it's right below us. And during the course of a week, we use a lot of parts. Well, what's really important on doing a job the right way and us putting our name on that job is there's several things needed. But two of the items that I would consider most important is a really good technician and really good parts.

Because you can do things at the very best price that you can do it for. But if it's not done right, with good parts, then you have a problem. So that's the reason we use Motorrad parts. Motorrad builds thermostats and engine management parts for the OEMs and the aftermarket. And whatever I have a choice and they say what brand would you want?

I say Motorrad. Because that's they have just done so well for me. Well, you don't want them coming back.

You know what I mean? Well, that's what I tell people, you can use another part in the other and a parts company can say, well, if you have a problem with it, we'll give you a lifetime warranty. Well, lifetime warranty does nothing if a person's boat down on side road. And so going ahead and doing it right the first time is exactly what we do.

And that's the reason we love those Motorrad parts. Okay. Are you? I was gonna ask you a question, Philip.

Okay, what? How does a person know if they should sell a car? Or if they should trade their existing? I mean, or, or if they're looking for another vehicle? Should they try to sell their car? Or should they try to trade that car in?

Well, that's a good question, Aaron. But nowadays, we have other options where they can sell their car privately. Or they can go online on our particular website, we have a value your car, and they can get an idea by putting in the parameters, what year make model mileage, and it's going to give them an idea of what that car is worth. And several of the larger auto manufacturers actually have a software that they will make an offer on your car. And it's a good way for you to be able to discern, do I want to try to sell this car myself, have people come to my house, whatever, take the time to do it? Or do I just want to sell my car? You don't necessarily have to trade it on another car.

A lot of times people end up with an extra car, someone in the family passes, they got an extra car. I would also say that sometimes it depends on the price point. If this is a car that's 10,000 or less, fairly easy to sell on your own.

You know, you can post it on different sites, you're going to sell it, somebody, your neighbor, friends, it's easy to sell. When you get a car that's 20, 30, $40,000, it's a whole different story. You got people who are going to have to arrange financing, they're going to want to dig a little deeper into the situation. So it's hard for an individual to accommodate maybe that sale. And then of course, when you get into the cars in that price range, 30,000 and up or even 20,000 up, it's a lot more critical to make sure that the paperwork is done correctly. Right, right.

Because it's complicated. You have payoffs that need to be made to the bank. Exactly. And you know, you got to watch out for scams nowadays. People will call you and tell you, yeah, we were looking for your car, blah, blah, blah. And Philip, a person now can make a, what's the term on payment that they give a bank deposit?

Yeah, right. Or they can take a deposit, a wire transfer or whatever. And it not be real. In other words, you just just a lot of room.

You can take a cheap printer and make out something. You can forge a check. There's a lot of scams out there. You know, I'm not saying that because I'm a dealer and I want you to bring me your car. But it's just to be careful. Be careful.

Absolutely. I have to be careful with who I'm dealing with. Philip, I know you don't care because there's been several customers that have come, that you have called me and you said they come in wanting to buy a car mainly because they were having some type of issue with their car, like a running problem. And you'll say, Aaron, I believe that they could save a lot of money if you could find this problem that they have, or if you can repair their car, would you be interested in talking with them? And so you let them know that they may or may not need a car.

They may just need to get the existing car done. So I think that's great. Well, I tell you what, I'm gonna read a tech tip quiz and then we will go to the callers on there. And of course the Tech Tip Quiz winner will receive a prize package, includes a hat and coffee mug on this one. And I answered the Tech Tip Quiz coffee mug there that I was talking about.

Okay. And here is the question. Bill was driving down a straight road, no police on the side of the road or behind him. So he let his car unwind a bit. He still got a ticket. How did he get a ticket? If you know the answer, give us a call.

Number 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800. And we will go over and talk to Robert. Robert, welcome to the CNC auto show.

Yes, sir. What can we help you with today? I got problems with speedometer. I got a 94 Fleetwood and the speedometer stopped working on asking the question, what's the reason for it not to work?

All right. I can tell you the most common thing that we've run into on that model. I believe that was a model that will not have a speedometer cable if I'm not mistaken, but they were in the process of, uh, of trying to use more electronics. So they installed a speed generator there, and it actually plugs into the same spot that the speedometer cable used to plug into.

The only thing is it generates a little signal and sends it to the cluster on there and that, and the cluster is able to show your speed like that way. And Robert, I won't mention something though. I got an idea of something you might be able to use temporarily until you get that taken care of. Can you hold just a second? And okay. And we will, uh, uh, Phillips swimming and we have more tips, road chips. We'll be talking to Robert, uh, and more as soon as we return with the CNC auto show.

Let's head back down to the car care studio with Airman Clements and John Ryan Mooney The CNC auto show has brought to you in part by blaster makers of PB blaster, the number one penetrant for breaking free rusted parts, always use blaster products and work it like a pro. And we are back with you, Phillip Hawkins, riding with us. And you can call us at 800-224-9090 or 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800. That's Saturday mornings, 8 0 5 to 10 Eastern time.

Or you can watch the show live at CC auto show.com or on Facebook. And we were talking to Robert. Uh, Robert mentioned that he had a Cadillac 94 Cadillac that the speedometer was not working. And we mentioned before, uh, before we left that that model used it. Now, if I'm not mistaken, used a speed generator or actually it was just a signal generator and, and it would produce an analog system that went to the dash where it was converted to a digital signal, which operated if I'm not mistaken, a digital speedometer on that model. A lot of them don't remember a hundred percent. Sure, Robert, but that those little speed generators used to go bad all the time or signal generator at the transmission. And they're not real hard to change.

And I don't think they're a major investment when you do that. So that's most likely your, your, uh, speedometer issue. Now I mentioned to you of what I tell some people when they are, uh, trying to make a decision or they may decide to wait on getting their speedometer a little bit. They make little things now that you can put on the, on the dash and plug into the cigarette lighter. And that joker will use GPS signals to tell you how fast you're going.

Just like you can, you can install a speedometer on your phone actually. Or you can just go to, you see blue lights. Yeah. Now that works. Yeah.

Some people work. Yeah. Just go, just keep climbing until the blue lights come on and then you'll be fine. But, but Robert, you can, um, if you decided to wait a little bit to get that or if it turns out that that problem is in the cluster instead of that speed or signal generator that I told you about, uh, then you might say, well, I'll just put this thing up on my dash and I'll look at it that way. It's not something I, I would recommend, but it is at least an option that I wanted to mention to you. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. We thank you very much. And I sure hope you have a great weekend. Thank you. Bye bye. Okay.

The number to call 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800 and Phillip, I think we're going to be on the same page on this, but have you ever had a vehicle that comes in and you pull the handle on the open, the hood and hood don't pop up. Yeah. Yeah. I had that happen many times.

And that's the reason I keep a Canada PB blaster right next to the, where we pull the cars around or, or all, actually they're all out through the shop because it's kind of amazing. People do that. And people think that something's wrong with the hood or something's wrong with this or something's wrong with that.

But, but of course you can bump it and it'll finally pop up. You open the hood. You can put just a spot of the PB blaster, just give it a little spray around that, that latch assembly on that hood and then close it again and you pop it and it pops right up liquid persuasion, liquid persuasion. And then the other thing that happens is we'll pull a car around for a customer, for them to get in it. And when we open the door, it sounds like a spook house. So you can take that PB blaster and just spray it on those little hinges and work it just a couple of times. Noise is gone.

And more importantly on both of those items, if they're lubricated and they're not squeaking like that, they're not going to wear out near as fast. So PB blaster is a great product. Let's go over to, um, uh, let's go visit. Oh, by five, no, 10 seconds. Dylan gets it. Dylan, you had a good morning. Hey, this is my friend Dylan from Florida. Phillip.

Hey, this is great. Uh, uh, Dylan, I want to introduce you to another friend. I have Phillip Hawkins here and, um, I've been knowing Dylan a long time also, and he's in Orlando, Florida. All right. Hey, Dylan. I actually am in Tampa.

We have all the, uh, yeah, we have all the benefits of, uh, Orlando without having to live there. I used that, uh, that PB blaster on everything. Door hinges.

Uh, my van door was, uh, was not open and right. I used it on anything. Metal to metal, cereal, ice cream, you name it.

PB blaster goes on. Does it work on knees there? Um, now some people say it does.

There's been controversy on that, but there, there has been people that said they rub it on their knees. But I can't promise that one now. I can promise it'll make a squeak and a door work better. Can't promise the knees. All right. All right. Dylan, what can we help with? Well, uh, Aaron, uh, we've known you for a long time. Uh, recently you and I talked, uh, about, uh, brake pads and brake rotors. I'm going to be doing a brake job on my 09 Honda Odyssey.

And, uh, as you know, with me, I get, uh, way carried away with research about stuff like this. So I still haven't done the brake job because I've been doing a bunch of research on what exactly I want to put on the van. Um, and I was just curious as far as pads rotors go. Uh, I'm just seeing a lot of different materials like ceramic, semi-metallic, and then with rotors, I'm seeing a cast iron, and then you've got the drill slotted, all that stuff and rust coating. Uh, I was hoping that maybe you guys could really help me zero in on this and I'm going to go out to the parts store today and get the stuff and finally get this done. Uh, Dylan, I would go to mid range if I'm not mistaken. You, you visit O'Reilly auto parts a lot, don't you?

Yeah. I would go with their mid range brake pad and rotor combination that they have. Uh, if you were doing something different and like driving higher speeds and you were going to that racetrack that they have over there in Atlanta, Orlando, which I've been, I've driven a NASCAR on that track before. Uh, but if you were doing that, uh, around a track or something like that, then I'd get the vented rotors and all this special stuff that you're going to pay more money for. But what you'll be doing is you got to, you got a beautiful family that you're going to be taking to Disney world from time to time.

I would get the standard type of mid range type rotor brake combination and you're going to be fine. All right. I hear.

So is there any type of, and this is more of my curiosity Dylan, we'll put y'all hold and we'll be right back in just a second. It's time for more good stuff with Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney. Jamie Willis saving many times over the years. The one I remember most as a car I bought that turned out to have a crack block. I cleaned the area and added JB weld. I drove that car for two years.

Be your strongest self and use the adhesive pros have trusted for 50 years. JB weld available at jbwell.com Walmart, Amazon home Depot, auto zone, and more JB well world's strongest bond JB well epoxy products are proudly made in the USA. And if you do have a question about your car truck or SUV, you give us a call 800-224-9090 or 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800. That's Saturday mornings, 805 10 Eastern time, or you can watch show live at on Facebook or CC auto show. And we were talking to Dylan. Uh, we Dylan, we talked a little bit about the, uh, brake pad and rotor combinations. And if I'm not mistaken, you're going to be heading down to a Raleigh auto parts and picking out some parts really soon. Right? Yep. You got it.

I, uh, and I just had one last question kind of from my own curiosity, I'm into this kind of stuff. It looks like those mid-level brake pads and rotors you re you, you recommend, uh, the mid-level brake pads are typically, it seems like they're made of ceramic, not semi metallic. And then it looks like the rotors are typically the mid-level rotors are like a G 3000 cast iron with a rust coating. And the cheaper ones just say cast iron and no rust coating.

Is there, is that kind of what you'd expect? Are those good advantages to have? Yes, they are good advantages to have the ceramic pads do very, very well. And of course the years back, uh, asbestos used to be the best product for brake pads because they would, they would hold up very well. Uh, they didn't make very much noise. And so as time went on and Philippa, remember this, they, they were, they had to do away with asbestos. It wasn't a choice.

So they had to try to make decisions quick. So they moved over to semi metallic. Well, when they come out, squeaks were terrible everywhere breaks.

Yeah. They would, they would squeak terrible. Now over the years they've experimented with different compounds. And of course, ceramic was one of the things they started working with and it has worked very well. And now there's other compounds and of course there's certain mixtures that they make on these, uh, on the brake friction material. Uh, but ceramics been one of the best and also it produces less dust. A lot of vehicles have the, uh, uh, open wheels and beautiful, uh, wheels on there and they don't want the brake dust getting on it. And ceramics been a good product for that also.

Uh, the coating on the rotors, I highly recommend, uh, cause if you let a car sit any period of time, you've probably, um, uh, sometimes over a period of time, they'll build up some rust on there. Uh, but also, I don't know, this might be crazy Dylan, but they just look better to me. Absolutely. When you put them on, they look good. Absolutely. I'm sure the coating wears down. You can go down Daytona beach with your car.

What am I worrying about? There you go. Check out my new brake pad. Right. Right.

They won't rust. Thanks so much. I appreciate you helping me zero in on this. I'm going to get out here and go. Well, Dylan, I enjoy it, but I'm going to tell you, I also enjoy, uh, Dylan calls me from time to time.

I might be walking through Lowe's and Dylan and give me a call, but he always has great, great questions and I always enjoy talking with him also. Well, you're the, you're, you're, you're one of the biggest reasons I still drive payment free because I can do all this work myself. All right. And he does it.

We know that he does it. Well, Dylan, thank you very much for giving us a call. Yeah. Thank you guys. Bye bye.

Okay. The number to call 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800. If you have a question about your car, truck or SUV, you give us a call and we will go straight over to William. William, welcome to the CNC auto show.

And how can we help you? Good morning, sir. First of all, I was going back on TV blaster because I put that on everything. All my old crap around here, put on it. I want to introduce you to Phillip here, William. Now you don't have the chicken or, or, or I might be mixed up. You don't have chickens in your yard.

Huh? Yes, sir. I'm the one with the chicken. You got the chickens in the background and he's got a rooster. All right. I'll say William's got a rooster in his backyard.

What you actually, at this point I have five or six and the six can get ugly. Sounds like you're going to have a fight. And William, I know I always asked you this question, but you're not near him where we can hear him real quick.

Are you? You didn't, you didn't just hear that one. I heard it. Yeah. Yeah.

He went, he just went off for you. Yeah. I heard him. That's William. Oh, there we go. All right, William.

Thank you. That, that kind of brings, I don't know. It kind of gives you a calm feeling when you hear chickens and roosters and things like that. It's kind of makes you feel like you're out on the, on the farm and just relaxing. And I appreciate that. Makes me hungry. You, you bring us, you bring us a lot of pleasure there, William. What can we help with today?

Well, I don't, I want to tell, I mean, I may not be right, but I've never driven in Texas before. Wait a minute. Are you going to answer our tech tip quiz quiz? Yes. You got to get on stage first. Yeah.

That bugle player gets really upset if they don't get a chance to play before person. Yeah, he is. Okay. Now, uh, I'm gonna read the question.

So hold on. Bill was driving down a straight road. There were no police on the side of the road or behind him. So he led his car and wind a bit. He still got a ticket. How did he get a ticket?

And William all eyes are on you. What is the answer to today's tech tip quiz? Well, supposedly I was driving in Texas and with driving supposedly, uh, a new BMW and my license plate got misconstrued with one of these new cameras that reads your license plate and your speed down the road. And it took me forever to get it straightened out. Cause you can't talk to a lot of person and you have to get, but I think it was one of those cameras that took a picture of his license plate, took a picture and boom, he got a ticket in the mail. Oh no.

And the ticket came in the mail and, and, and, and told him that he was going too fast at one time. William, hold your finger over the chicken's ears. William that is a question I have though. Does the chicken, what's the chicken's ears look like? Where's, where's the ears on the chicken? You remember me telling you, I got rid of foghorn and I got this new weir with named black beard. And man, he's, I don't know what strain he is or where he came from.

I mean, I know where he, anyway, I know where I bought him from, but anyway, I'll just let them all out at the moment. But anyway, they're man, their ears, some of them got fur behind the eyes and some of them, I mean, it's just so weird. I couldn't tell you. All I can tell you is I've never seen such a menagerie, different colored chickens. When I hatch them, it's always like a box of chocolate.

You never know until you open it. Yeah. Well, we appreciate it. And after this show's over, I'm going to go Google what a chicken's ear looks like. That's how I got it. That's pretty good. And if you figure it out, you can send it to me.

Well, you can't, cause I have a flip phone. All right. Hey, William, thank you very much. And good try on the tech tip quiz. Y'all have a great day.

You do also. Okay. We are down to a minute and a half, so we wouldn't have time to answer another car question. I'm going to ask all those Roger and Cliff and all the others to definitely don't, don't hold the question inside too much, but hold on to that question until we return with another CNC auto show, because we don't want to miss you. And Phillip, I want to say thank you very much for being here with us today.

I've enjoyed it there. And I can talk about cars all day long, just like you can and enjoy people and chickens. Absolutely. I've learned a little bit this morning. Try to do that every day.

Learn something. Yeah, well, I learned a lot. Also, I had a lot of fun. We had a lot of great callers and and Phillip, you were you have helped me so many times with questions that I've always had with cars and and and he sold me a bunch of cars too. You and I have absolutely helped each other over the years with tech issues with all kind of things. Yes, we have.

Okay. The time clock's on E. We need to pull over now, but we will be back on the road in no time. I'm Aaron Clements here with Phillip Hawkins of Phillip Hawkins Motor Company and show producer Mason Rogers is in there. We would like to say thank you very much for riding with the CNC auto show. Welcome back to more of the CNC auto show with Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney. I use JB well at home and work at work for certain automotive repairs and at home for DIY projects, plumbing, Marine, and more for projects big and small at home or in the garage.

I love my JB well, in fact, JB well products can be used on practically anything, metal, wood, plastics, glass, ceramics, and more JB well available at jbwell.com Lowe's advanced auto parts, Napa O'Reilly Michaels, and more JB well world's strongest bond. And we welcome you back to the CNC auto show and I'm one that will admit when a mistake comes up and I thought the gas gauge was on E, but actually we got about a quarter of a tank left. Yeah.

So, uh, so we, uh, I think it was Roger or there was a bunch of colors on there. You get a chance to give us a call back real quick. We'll be able to answer your automotive question. And we have, we will go over here too. We, um, we, um, welcome to the CNC auto show.

What can we help with? Well, I was going to take one of the chickens gave me an answer. Oh, wow.

That's amazing. William. Okay. We will, uh, we will put you back on stage and William, I'm going to read the question real quick.

Again. Bill was driving down a straight road. There were no police on the side of the road or behind him. So he let his car unwind a little bit. He still got a ticket. How did he get a ticket? And William, what is the answer? He was at a drag strip where you just let it roll. And at the end, they give you a time.

How many miles William? That sounds like a, an answer I would have come up with. Cause that is good. Give you a trophy for that.

Not a ticket. Yeah. And I know that you have all of those chickens and, and you said you only get one rooster though with all the chickens, right? Is that right? But, um, we have one dominant rooster in it.

This point we have like, uh, I don't know, six or seven other risks. Just got to leave here quick before the dominant one starts. So I'm making them go away himself. Oh, wow. Well, what, what, they're all waiting. I can see the tense moment that they're all standing there wondering if you got it and they'll probably all cheer, but I'm afraid, uh, William, you did, you did not get it.

Well, I got to find out which chicken told me that he might go into pot next. Yeah. Hey, William, we appreciate you calling. And if another one comes to you, give us a call back. Have a great day. All right. Number to call 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800. If you have a question about your car, truck or SUV, Philip.

Yes, sir. What color do people seem to prefer the most when they come in now? Well, I read recently where the top five colors are black, white, silver, gray, and red being the fifth.

And the top three or four seems to switch back and forth over the years. White will be the predominant color than maybe silver or gray. Black's typically not in there because it's a beautiful color, but it's a high maintenance code. But what I'm looking at over my car lot, it's almost inevitable that there's not many cars other than black, silver, white, or gray, and you want a pretty yellow one or a red one or a green one or something to, to, to break up the color as it would be. And people just don't buy cars that are off the path. When I get a car that's off the path, I love it because it typically will draw the attention and it'll draw. You know, a color that I don't think that was, people would have even dreamed about getting years ago, but I'm seeing it and I'm really starting to like it is that lime green type color.

I don't know the technical word that they use. Yes, see actually, you know, history repeats itself. You go back in the sixties and seventies, Chrysler in particular had some really wild purple colors, lime greens, oranges, and now you're beginning to see that back on some of the jeeps have some really wild colors, which the younger folks are usually the ones that tend to go in that. There's some really shocking lime greens. And like you say, he, you like it, but you don't want to put it in your driveway, man. But people are scared to get something different, but I love it when it's different. Yeah, I do too. And I, and I've loved all the retro cars. I love seeing the Mustangs and the challengers and that pretty grabber blue and the Mustang been a very popular color.

I remember seeing that in some exciting times for the vehicles over the last period of time, because there's so many beautiful cars out there. You know, let's go to the callers again. Let's do that.

Let's go over to, is that Moses? Yeah, just most, most. All right. We said it right then. Most.

All right, most. I got you now. And you can call me anyway. And what, what can we help you with today? Uh, yeah, I wanted to try to answer the, uh, the guy got the ticket with no police around. Oh my goodness. Hold on.

I am going to, I need to put you on stage before we do that. I read the question again. Bill was driving down a straight road. There were no police on the side of the road or behind him. So he let his car unwind a little bit. He still got a ticket. How did he get a ticket?

And most all eyes are on you. What is the answer to today's tech tip quiz? He ran through a red light and with the automatic ticket thing, they send him a ticket.

Oh, he just got one in the mail. That happened to me. One time I was at some, I forgot where I was, but it was a toll road. And I was in going through a toll thing and I was in the wrong lane. And so I just shot right on through there because it was too late to try to back up and go through the thing. And sure enough in the mail, I got a story in the wrong lane.

Yeah. I was just in the wrong one, wrong place, wrong time. And I got it most.

That was an excellent trial, but, but there just wasn't any cigar mix with that one. Most. Okay. All right. All right. I like that name, man. Most.

That's I bet there's a story behind that. Well, I always tell people it's like, uh, in the South Moses, but a Southern Moses is most, I got it. I like it most. Hey, thank you very much for giving us a call. All right. Thank you.

Number to call 7 0 6 8 6 3 5 800. Let's go straight over to David. David, welcome to the CNC auto show. And what can we help you with?

I wanted to try and answer the tech to it quiz as well. Oh, hold on. We're going to put you on stage. Okay.

David, be still. All right. And take the sunglasses off and then answer today's tech tip quiz.

What is it? Well, when I first heard it, I was thinking the same thing that some of the others was doing about the cameras on the side of the road. Have some experience with that myself in Europe, but we won't go there. Um, I'm going to go a different route on that. And we're going to say they got him on the aircraft. Oh, no, that's not bad. Now that's you, David, you put a lot of thought into that one because I think we're going down different parts of the country.

I remember, uh, in this area, if you're going down to Florida, they actually have the signs there saying your speed is monitored by aircraft. And, uh, that's, that's kind of good. But David, there's just, uh, the bad part is, Oh, David, man. I'm so sorry. Yeah. But that's not the answer, but we do appreciate that very much. And we will go, Oh yeah.

Now this time it's for real. It, I mean, and there's no, there's no denying it is the gas tank is only, and we do need to pull over for now. I'm going to ask those, uh, those callers, uh, that's on there to please be sure to call us up the next time that with the CNC automotive, nobody won the tech tip. So I guess it rolls over to next week. The tech tip quiz will be rolling over to the next week. Time clocks on E we need to pull over now, but we will be back on road to no time. I'm Eric Clements here with Phillip Hawkins of Phillip Hawkins Motor Company and show producer inside there, Mason Rogers. And we would all like to say thank you all for riding with the CNC auto show. All right. Now it's now it's over. Yeah.

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