Good morning, everybody. This is the Bart Winkler Show or that's what it was. It's Into the Winklerverse in this format.
Paul Emig is here and Graham Bills. Great to be with you guys on might be a little truncated episode, but I think the numbers say people dip out after 27 and a half minutes anyway. So we will fulfill that duty. There will be duty free agency. I'll I'll do something draft related.
I still got to go through and vote for my pack of shareholders thing. So, of course, I'll make content out of that. So I just, you know, people have been people have been asking where the pot has been. It's two to three times a week. It just doesn't know. I don't know what days of the week it is.
It's when the content is there. I think we will do a hiatus for July. Just with it being kind of I don't.
I just don't want to do four hours of Brewers. Yeah, the course of a month, but we'll still talk to these nerds when available. All right. So, Paul, take it away. All right. I'm not going to present any original. So my thought, well, not original as in that I didn't create them because I don't like getting the hate. Oh, wait.
I like being over here on the shiny. There you go. It's like, well, what a dumb idea that was from Paul's like it wasn't mine. It was a blog one that so you guys if you want to have a conversation that I could perhaps interject in if you have any material.
I thought there might be breaking news. OK, maybe. All right. So there was this night in college that a girl came over and we were in the dark. And like. I don't even want to say we fooled around. We just like held each other's hands on my futon in the dark, but like vigorously intimately. Yeah, but the hands it was like.
I don't know if one of us were waiting to move a hand, but like or if like the hands. That story is so good. Breaking news. Oh, that was a true story. That was a true story, by the by. Paul, production Paul, what do we got? I couldn't find other breaking news sound effect.
There's one that had been previously used on your show, but that's not what's important. The important thing is, is the breaking bucks trade news. And let's get back to your college stories here momentarily. The Milwaukee Bucks. Have just traded Brook Lopez.
And Pat Connaughton. Wow, sure, and a 2024 first and a 2020 and a 2031 first. Oh. For Brandon Ingram.
From the yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess yeah, or I guess. I think this trade might even be illegal. I don't know, but I don't think the Bucks can compare and I don't think they can pair guys up right now. That's why I think they can't aggregate it, but I still like the.
I saw it the other day and I was like, I couldn't send it to you guys because I wanted to ask you here. But when I sent it to my other buddies, I said, like, fucking obviously, right? Like if you can somehow walk away from, you know, your fifth and seventh best players in some aggregated way and wind up with Brandon Ingram, like. That's ridiculous. Well, I think to the nature of the trade. What you're giving up is. And then obviously the first, you know, the picks and the Bucks have traded away so many first round picks that they should do whatever they can.
Like we talked about the window. I think Giannis is going to be here a long time. Like I don't. He might sign one contract somewhere else at the end. He might go back and play in Europe.
Who knows? Do something like that, but I think that he is going to be here longer than Dame is. Oh yeah, it's based on age. And you got to win one with, with Dame. You got for, for the swing that you took. Yeah. For now that the fact that the Celtics did win with Drew, you got to win one with Dame. So I don't like, and I just, I used to be compete every year, every year you got to go out, but it's not feasible. Right? It's not feasible to do that.
You have to strike though, when the iron is conceivably hot. Whatever moves they make, as long as it's with the intention of trying to win ASAP. I don't think that I would have any gripe with, even if we're getting 40 cents back to their sixties, so to speak. So yeah, I would, I would, if that's possible, which the NBA, they, this is so dumb. The apron, the second apron, even these trades last night, like the McHale bridges trade. I could understand.
And I feel like quickly digest that information and then spit it back out. Yeah. I tried reading this nets rockets trade. I don't know what the fuck they even traded. Yeah. They reacquire the pick that they traded to them in the first place in exchange for a swap with this.
And that is going to then there's I, cause I know you can go, well, we have the 17 and you have the 13, but we have the right via a pick swap, but now there's pick swaps with there's like three team pick swaps. I know it's too much. So I guess I'm saying breaking news. I'm going to give you a more realistic one here. Second grad. Do you have any thoughts on this one that I think is illegal, but I just, it was just so obviously duh to me that I almost didn't merit even bring it up.
But any reaction to this one before I give you a more realistic one? Well, Ingram would be what their fourth offensive option in that scenario. That's pretty on the night. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, depending, but he would be on a team with Middleton, Damon, Giannis, which would be awesome. They would have to figure out in, in that scenario that have to figure out a center. It doesn't even need to be a good one, but someone who can come in over the course of a regular season and he came probably not going to play a ton in the playoffs. Cause he honestly play the five, but he can't do that the whole season.
So that would be my only concern. I really like it. I just don't really know what Pat gives you other than three point shooting ability. And if he's not going to be great, most of the time, three point shooting, which he hasn't been like, I don't like him champion.
There's a huge part of that finals run, but shooting hasn't really sustained. Also this whole thing where Bart and I tell college stories and you interrupt is really funny, but that's mostly what the podcast is. Like we're treating it like it's a bit, but it's basically just what we do every week. So it's kind of funny that we treat, Hey, let's do this thing. Even though that's really what we do the entire time.
What would have happened organically if not for the setup? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
This is a more efficient way to do a more controlled way to do it, which I like. Do we have any more stories that I should interject with or should I give you a more realistic trade that I saw? Did you say you wanted a center? Yeah, sure.
I think you would need one. There you go. Why don't we sign thought maker back? Well, that's a loaded question for the same reason you don't send Jabari back. Why don't we send them both back? I'm not kidding. It would be good content. If you're going to just have Marjan Beauchamp ride the pine.
Should be Jabari. You know, the Bucks have been so good with the new ownership at reconnecting with the old eras, retiring Marcus. Why do we always have to reconnect with the old good eras?
I was going to say, don't do not put on. It wasn't an era. It was a pick. Why don't we reconnect with some of the shit? Really honor tradition.
It's like really, really. Probably bring them all back from the 15 win season or whatever it is. Honor them at mid court at halftime of the game. That actually would be funny. What would you guys have said?
What a Larry Drew statue outside. What would you guys have said? Part of our shared history. Yes, Paul. Sorry. What would you have said it with this in 2007 ish, 2008. What would you have said it when the eighth seed chasing Bucks traded TJ Ford for Charlie Villanueva? Mm hmm. Or that that's a good deal for the Bucks. This positions them better or worse for the eighth seed.
I didn't like that Ford pick because Jordan made it. Is it a theory on that? I don't know. I think it's not, but I can't find proof.
You might have just had inside information. I do think that we should honor the Desmond Mason led Bucks more. The Michael Red Desmond Mason led Bucks. That's what I know Bucks basketball to be. This, this current era is weird with expectations and you know, it's fucking bizarre, isn't it? There's a lot of people that this isn't a slight on anybody.
There's a lot of people though. Whose first Bucks broadcast team is Lisa and Steve. It's so strange.
Like that's what they started with. Grant, who do you identify as like Bucks? The Brooks, the Bucks broadcast team in Grant's mind is Paschke and Paschke and probably Marcus Johnson. I didn't, the NBA was not on in my household. The certainly not the Bucks.
I completely stumbled into the NBA socially in middle school and high school and it was all Derrick Rose, LeBron James, the spur like I didn't. The Bucks sucked. I didn't even know they were on the same station as the Brewers. I watched Brewers by myself as a kid, but I, I didn't know that in the winter, then it was just that same station. That's where the Bucks games were. The funny thing is, is like NBA jam was what? 93 part ish somewhere like early in the four or five and the Bucks roster on that game is as bad of a like four, three, three, four.
What is it? Murdoch? Well, I know Blue Edwards is on there.
I don't think Murdoch is. The two player one. We did this as a trivia question with Horvat back in the day. The NBA, the NBA jam at like arcade.
Yeah, exactly. I'll look it up. NBA jam teams, arcade. So it's Brad Lohas and Blue Edwards.
And that was at least the arcade version. Brad Lohas and Blue Edwards. Yeah. I just found an article ranking the original NBA jam duos and I'm like, I wonder how, oh, they're first. Uh, they, and that being last. They were ranked as the worst. I mean, it had, how would you do worse than that?
Maybe you're reading, oh no, it goes, uh, no, you're reading this correctly. Brad Lohas was one of the 54 players in NBA jam. Was he a friend of one of the developers?
I don't know. What I do know is that he appeared in 656 games over 11 seasons, but his inclusion was a puzzling one. This was a 28 win team. It might've been harder to pick, but you know, who else was on that team? Moses Malone. Yes, he was 37 in a shell of the player, a 12 time All-Star and three time MVP, but he was still Moses Malone. Oh my gosh.
Moses Malone, put him in a game, put him in a game. Yeah. So apparently there's, I didn't realize there were different rosters for different. So arcade was Lohas and Blue Edwards.
Game Boy was Vin Baker and Eric Murdoch. Yeah. Okay. I got Murty. So it depends on your version.
I knew the arcade version. Do you think there was a meeting? Like how intense do you think the duo put together was where there was a developer who was like, I know that a lot of this room wants Moses Malone, but I think it is our duty to put Brad Lohas into this game. And he's like, he's like nervous the night before.
He's like, honey, I'm going to go in and pitch, pitch Brad Lohas. And this could be the end of our, our sweet, sweet life where you and I both just graduated high school and have a $900,000 home. But at least a modern day valued $900,000 home.
So yeah, the Bucks did not used to have a very good roster. According to Peter Bukowski, you could make 900,000 a year and probably still have paycheck to paycheck, depending on where you live. Did you see that Paul is the funniest Twitter. Pete was swearing up and down the Twitter timeline that making 250 K a year and living paycheck to paycheck is not only reasonable, but common and common for good reason. And I'm like, I just like arguing with Pete. It's fun.
I didn't even really care, but he was just swear. Well, when you count her in taxes and student loans and get 250 K it's gone like that. Like it goes out the window. Anyways, we have limited time. Well, that sounds like classic mo money mo problems.
Never something I'd have to worry about. I mean, I'm broadcasting from a tech board. I'm an executive producer, so maybe I should give myself more credit than I do.
I don't like that the EP sounds cooler than host. I'm the only producer. He's the EP of the Bart Winkler show. What are you then? I'm the host. No, you're. I'm Bart Winkler. That's all. No, I'm gonna say maybe I'll maybe I'll spin this tonight. I'm gonna say I'm the C H. Oh, I'm the chief hosting officer, C H. Oh, can you can you the Mercedes Monet dance as you do see, I don't like her. See, I don't know.
She's not my favorite. Horvat told this story unprepared back in the day. He not only did he know like tons of it somehow. He knew the NBA Jam rosters. He knew Delilah.
Fuck the NBA Jam rosters. He knew Delilah. He hit a home run in Little League off of Oh, Tanner Roark.
Tanner Roark. He then knew off the top of his head why Blue Edwards nickname is Blue Edwards. Just I was like I thought he was making it up. I later looked it up.
I looked it up again just now to confirm and he he was right then he's right now. He was trying to get me to go to Dave with him on Friday at like one thirty in the afternoon. Good thing he didn't go Saturday. He did. Well, I bet I mean, he might have tried but then he got. Oh, he was there.
Yeah, that's not fun. No. Oh, I I want to know about more about Blue Edwards and NBA Jam but there's a breaking news trade. What is it, Paul?
Brooke Lopez. Traded. Oh, no. One for one.
This trade is legal. Oh, I love a one for one. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. For Marcus Smart. For the bucks. Mm hmm.
That's I don't know. That's like trading a shoe for a glove. I don't exactly know what that means but I kind of love it. No, I mean, it means it means we now we need another we need a pair of shoes. Oh, I already have gloves.
Do we wait? Yeah, how so? Well, the gloves we have are like they have the little inseam to touch your phone. Those gloves don't work. Marcus Smart glove is, you know, it's a winter glove. You can you can shovel in it. But we need shoes.
You need shoes. Well, we need the perimeter defenders to be able to play drop coverage that Brooke Lopez is good at. Right. So why don't we just play just play Yanis at the five. He he has been unhealthy in the playoffs the last two years with other centers on the team.
You want him to play center all year was playing at the five that make Yanis do it. Yeah, against plumbers and firemen. No, ain't no one gonna remember this postseason.
He's also did I but I don't think we've swore yet. Right. So you think we could ride that out? Why is that?
I got a YouTube comment from one of these like three months ago just today. Too much profanity. I can stop. By the way, Garrett Mitchell left today's game in Nashville, grabbing his hamstring. No. Yeah, really? Yeah. Yeah, that's real. Are you watching the afternoon game here, Paul?
You can I'm aware of the latest. Oh, inside the park home run and all this. Yeah.
Here's my other one for you. Do you have any thoughts on Marcus smart as opposed to gloves and shoes is Dallas Kiko still a brewer by the All Star break. It's a minor league deal, right?
So like they could option him right? If he's still a brewer, can he be a sound? I thought it's pretty badass seeing him.
I did. I was like, Holy shit. This is Dallas. Like if like grandki would come back like it's just like, Oh, no, they got shelled. Well, whoever else it would have been would have gotten shelled.
At least it's someone we know. I was like, remember, Dallas. This is like Shaq in a Cavs Jersey. Yeah, it's like Andrew McCutcheon.
That was really fun when that happened to that one. No, that was Andrew McCutcheon. Well, when Andrew McCutcheon is available, you go get them. Any Marcus Mark thoughts?
Otherwise, I got one for you. I think coming up short in the playoffs again would hurt worse because then Celtics fans would have another reason to shit on us poop on us. So Tim, so that would kind of suck post. And he's good perimeter defender. After the trade of acquiring Mikel bridges. And let's assume they also retain NNOB. The New York Knicks have the second best roster in the east.
Mm hmm. Or essentially, they've surpassed the bucks, the current roster of the box. We don't know what the Sixers will do yet. So take it all, you know, at the present day of what each team has. But the Knicks today have a better roster than the bucks do today. I want to hear grant first if he's so inclined, but I will tell you that the odds Celtics to win next year three to one Thunder seven to one math seven to one eight to one nuggets eight to one. The Knicks went from 17 to one to nine to one leaping the box at 10 to one. Wow.
Okay. Yeah, I think, unless the Sixers get another star. Unless the bucks do something wild, that they are number two, but they're number two in a way that is like firm number two. It's like, Yeah, you you're number two.
But you have no chance of knocking off number one. Yeah, whereas I think the bucks are the Sixers might because they can claim that they would have the best player in either one of those series or even two depending on what maxi does depending on the honest name look like they can claim maybe the two best players in that series. I just think the Knicks are trying to be the Celtics like they're trying to do this, you know five starters, very equally balanced but all five of their starters are worse than the five starters for Boston. It's like number two sure but like a firmly entrenched number two a stuck number two which isn't I'm not. I'm not trying to diss him I'm just trying to be accurate about how their roster stacks up.
There's one part to answer the question but I got a quick ask grant this. If you were to combine the Knicks and Celtics roster and you could create the best starting five possible with the Knicks and Celtics rosters combined who's your starting five. Well Brunson Tatum brown Brunson Tatum brown. Now what.
And a no be porzingis playing porzingis at the five. Yeah. You think that's nuts. I don't know, no no holiday for the Randall.
Julius Randall's, I mean, I'm not a big fan, either. I was like heart and shines gone. Yeah, he's probably gone. And I know we may not be gone. So that's one of those things like they would be any momentum I think the Knicks deserve.
And I'm, I mean going in the next season like the Knicks, I'm going to watch a lot of next like I'm a Knicks fan like there's just no question. I'm a big fan of it, but if they don't retain and nobody it's kind of like if, if Middleton or Brooke had left last offseason. The Bucks could not have replaced them. Like, it's not like oh well they lost and nobody but they signed x.
If they can't respond and nobody they're just, they replace it with no one. So like they need to overpay him for better and for worse, because you can't do anything else to supplement that other than like less than your luxury tax. So they had better try to retain him. I think they're the number two right now.
I do too. They just have they have more like even like of all those three teams Yanis is the best. And Dame needs to be the second best for them to. So game needs to be better than Tatum and Brown and Brunson, because they had they just the Knicks have put together like what the Celtics are they just. Five six really good guys that. That's your top six that are better top six than anyone else can have and now the Knicks, I mean, if either of those teams play against the Bucks, Bucks have the best player, but they have a better team we I mean, they there's not like a with all do. When the Bucks start Brooke and Middleton and Yanis and Dame are drew last year. Their five now is who heart or Dante or Anna Novi I mean their fives really good. Yeah, the Celtics five is Derek white, maybe.
Yeah, ours has been Grayson Allen, or Malik Beasley, or Pat Bev. Yeah. Or, you know, some of these guys so there's no, there's no like, you're all because I've learned a lot ago you're only as strong as your weakest link.
Oh, I do think it's back to what you can break at the weakest link. I do think part of it is like when the pistons was another boat term I think what is. I shared a thing with grant not long ago about basically every phrase that we use in business is from boats. Really.
Can we think of any. I feel like the expression headwinds and high tide raises all ships is being overused. I don't know who decided I'm overusing it I've used it a lot. That's a that's a Bart, Bart, I've used it a lot. All hands on deck. He's three sheets to the wind. Abandon ship. Uh, we got a batter down the hatches. The batten down.
No bad but batter down the hatches. We're dead in the water. We don't want to rock the boat. That guy's a loose cannon. This company we run a tight ship.
You know, there's a lot there's a lot from boats. Is this a you did you discover this. No, I found a meme or a face dirt. What are those fucking called face match. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one.
I found a porn star by face. Grant, were you kidding when you said, is it batten down or better. No, it's definitely batten down the hatches I was walking, I was mocking you. Okay, I that's what I thought you're doing.
And that part was reading a list so it wasn't like But how else would you use the word batten. Can you use that time to watch it quick batten down the hatches. Can you watch it in two minutes when I bounce. I, yeah. But I wanted to specifically show you. We've seen it. Yeah.
The other two, the other two have seen it. Go. Yeah. Okay, it's gonna just take me one second here.
If I just gotta I just gotta Donald, how do I do this. Just being an old woman. Ready, ready, ready, people realize how much of English language is made up metaphors, by and large, there are phrases like by and large, which refer to either sailing by meaning into the wind or sailing large meaning against the wind, then you got all the business terminology because it's such a good teamwork metaphor, you want to run a tight ship by having everyone in your crew be on board so you can have all hands on deck and this idea of smooth sailing gave us a lot of words for things in motion. So the English language is sort of unique in having all these words because it's fundamentally a selling language spread by people on ships, they really did know the ropes, meaning that they had to know how to use the ropes of a ship which is why we have so many rope metaphors, we jury rig things because sailors have to jury rig a ship.
We check for loose ends because sailors had to go around and make sure everything was tied down correctly, and if they weren't you might have a literal loose cannon which is how we got the metaphor for unpredictable person, all these words still exist because of England's nautical culture 300 years ago. That rule. Yes.
Can you please send me that. I'm just watch this. What. Just watch this. I just did. I just did. No, watch the video we're creating Paul.
I have to reference I see what you're saying. We're so meta. Do you have to go at the go, you guys enjoy talk more, or you can see you have a different day. We'll tie up loose ends. Yeah, I do want to tie up a loose end with grant by friends. Goodbye Paul by Paul.
So. Let's act like Paul is the anchor of our friendship. Like we're two guys whose girlfriends at the bar just went to the bathroom. Yeah, like, like that.
Oh, I'm gonna make you miss some of that sorry. Yeah, you've been. You come to this, you come to this bar a lot. It's a nice spot.
I used to live around here, but this is the first time I've been in it. I mean, I like the music's loud, but it's not too loud. We don't have to yell to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They just played. The guy just played Creed.
What? They just played Creed. Oh, do you like them?
Love Creed. Remember when they played at halftime of the Thanksgiving, the Cowboys game? I actually don't watch football. Okay, there is one thing I want to. Is there actually a loose end you want to cover?
Yes, I do. It's about the Cubs. Oh.
I've watched the second half of every Cubs game this week so far. I would like to remind people first and foremost that we are brought to you in part by Happy Place Hemp. Happy Place Hemp, the promo code's Bart.
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Use it how you intend to. The drinks, dude, I'm telling you, the seltzers, oh my God. Dude, I love THC seltzers. These aren't THC seltzers. Any stoner seltzers are... No, they got THC seltzers. It's a good thing pot's still illegal in this state.
I'm glad that we're hanging on to that for some reason. But then you can still get this stuff. I know. It's weird. Of course it's weird. It's the stupidest thing. Well, it's good for them because they get to sell their product. I suppose it is.
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Or about the seltzers directly? I was still on hemp. I was still really specifically thinking about hemp. I'm posting the show as if you're on hemp right now, so it doesn't surprise me.
I've been doing that since February to get through Paul's nonsense. HappyPlaceHemp.com. The Bucks have made a trade. Can you believe it?
HappyPlaceHemp.com. All right. Just kidding, Paul. Of course. Kidding. I just want to show you one tweet that I saw that made me feel things. I'm sure you've seen it.
From 670 to score. I haven't seen this one today. Our friend's at.
Your friend's. I could play some of it, but basically the question's enough. It's Dan Bernstein and Lawrence Holmes, and the question is, do Cubs fans want the club to try to salvage the 2024 season or prioritize the longer-term future as the trade deadline looms in a month? I've heard from a lot of Cubs fans that, oh, we suck. This is happening because the team is bad.
So if you have a bad team and you're trying to compete, isn't that why you pay a manager $8 million? I know there's counsel frustration. We all see the tweets where Cubs fans are like, what is this press conference? What is this shit? Meanwhile, Pat Murphy's telling fucking old wives' tales about who or who he's not texting. He said last that they were bringing up Joey Ortiz to him last night, and they're like, hey, was Joey Ortiz at the top of your list in spring training? He's like, I don't remember what happened two days ago.
I certainly don't remember what went on in spring training. Pat Murphy, the way he gives answers, it's like those NBA central Twitter accounts, but central spelled around because he said this, but I don't know if I can print it. I don't know if it's real. He's saying a story, but I don't know if it's real.
So I was just circling back on this to say that you can't, you have to salvage. It's an $8 million manager. You got him in here to do the things that David Ross, David Ross could have done this. Here's what's interesting. What is Council's war right now? I have watched the end of every Cubs game this week because they're on the West Coast because they're entertaining. Then before I drift off into sleep, I read tweets. I search Cubs and I search Council and I read the tweets. I've also been listening to a little bit of lockdown Cubs because it's funny. You have? Yeah. I'll send you clips.
I have some good clips that I'm holding onto for a rainy day. At the beginning of this year, someone who comes on my show, we were texting about this. At the beginning of this year, there were all these articles written about Council joining the Cubs. A lot of the premises behind some of these articles were he's more than a manager. He's brought in. Let me read this. Let me read this. This is from a Ken Rosenthal story.
He's doing it right, all right. From offering dissenting opinions on potential acquisitions to questioning the type of information the Cubs present on their proprietary database, Council is making an impact on virtually every part of the organization, not just raising questions, but providing answers. That was written right before the season started.
I don't know. All these Cubs fans are like, well, fire Jed. It's Jed's fault.
Probably. The roster isn't very good, which we knew. You guys thought this dog shit team would win the division anyways, but I think Council is a little more...
I don't know. I think his impact is a little bit more wide reaching than simply... Also, I've been listening to Parkinson's Spiegel anytime they lose a stinker because I like hearing them whine about it. They have Council on Mondays. I don't think it's every week, but every once in a while. They ask Council, it's like, hey, your bullpen management, your late game management was so good in Milwaukee. Council is like, I don't have a secret sauce.
All I try to do is make consistent, non-emotional decisions based on data. If I was a general manager and owner that paid that guy $40 million, I'd be like, I would hope you have a little secret sauce. I don't want to hear that guy say that. It's like, I don't know.
I'm just like everybody else. Why is he making eight? Just because he went to the Cubs, we got all mad about it.
Would they have given him $8 million if he was the manager of the Tigers? I think I brought this up once upon a time. I'm not sure. Just to fuck us and fuck with us? I don't know.
I don't know. Now, this week, all the Cubs podcast. I've been listening to Locked on Cubs and the CHGO. How do you pronounce that? I think they pronounce it CHGO.
I've been listening to that. Otherwise, Chicago. Just spell it.
Well, no. It's their whole Denver is D-N-V-R. Do you call that Denver? Denver is the name of the city. You call it D-N-V-R. Hey, Bart, listen to my radio show tonight. It's called Wisconsin. It's fucking dumb. That's stupid.
It'd be like saying M-K-E. I know, but it's not. Okay. Whatever.
Set that to the side. This week, all the podcasts are ranting. They're like, and the Brewers lost their manager. They lost two aces.
They lost a closer. And they haven't missed a beat. And I'm sitting there watching them like, uh-huh.
Yeah. And that's what they've been doing. That's what they've been doing for closing in on six or seven years now. And the Cubs have been shitty really every year since 2018. They haven't made the playoffs in a real full year since 2018. And yet before the year, I got to read Cubs writers and Cubs people who are like, it'll be different in Chicago. In Milwaukee, they enjoyed success, but in Chicago, they'll expect it.
What the fuck does that even mean? They get so mad about when we win like a 6-5 game. We don't win shit in the playoffs.
It's fine. I mean, I personally don't love that part of it. I'd like to win some playoff games, but our operation is better than yours.
Suck it. And I don't know why it's taking you this long to realize it. And it's not Cubs fans' fault because they don't live in reality either. And I love when you go on Parkinson's and Spiegel, but they're getting smarter, but partly they don't have a clue. A little bit they don't have a clue. They have a little bit.
They're figuring it out as the year goes along, but it's taken them longer than it should. But whatever. That's my Cubs rant. That's my Cubs rant.
Whatever. Have you been watching Brewers games? You don't do local radio. Have you been watching a lot of Brewers games? I did local radio last night when I was accidentally on during the commercials.
You're on at the same time? I was on a hot mic on a commercial. I'm covering my first ever Brewers game at AMFAM this weekend slash Miller Park. My first time at the Big Boy Park for an actual regular season. Oh, so you've covered spring training and never a game at the stadium. No, but I've never lived close to the stadium.
Now I do. I'm like 20 minutes more. Should I be getting there more?
I can get credentialed. Should I be getting there more? That's a you. That's a you thing.
I don't know. I just feel like the era. Dude, I went there for like eight years. I didn't realize how often I was there. You just go watch a game.
Well, but you pulled audio like that was. But in 2014, 15, 16, 17, 18, really all the way up until COVID, I was doing on deck shows all the fucking time. Yeah. So I was at least there before the games. Do you miss going or is it that you miss being an established clubhouse presence?
You miss being able to walk into the press box and go, there's Winkler. That's what do you miss? Of course, that. Okay.
So that's what you know. Okay. Well then that's up to you. Do you want to go or not?
That's not a hard one. I don't know that they want me there. I feel unwanted.
No, you don't stop that. What do you want? You want them to send you a card inviting you just go. I want a message.
Be like, Hey, notice you haven't been here a while once come. Who's sending that message part Wagner. He's not the type. Okay, well, he's, he literally has a job to do is his job. I don't know. Ken.
I'll be there. My sports director who does our, our credentials. I could do it myself. I only ask him because he's got the process that it's just easier.
It's not like you do my credentials. That's not what it is, but I'm like, Hey, I'm like, Hey Zach, I want to go cover the brew game on Sunday. I told him this on Sunday.
So a week early. I'm like, and he's like, would you let the council thing go? And I'm like, I'm like, I literally didn't realize it was the cub series until like 20 minutes before I texted him because I told you the progression I went through. It's like, maybe I'll go to a game. Are they home? Are they home realize it's the cubs is like, I don't want to go to a cubs game, but covering it.
That's different and free and crucial to the job that I do, I want to present accurate coverage. Good observation. It helps to be at a game. It really does. It does.
It does. You could go. I know Sunday I got to, uh, we got a birthday party and it's in MEC one, which means we can get a Costco run either before or after, Oh, where's the Costco. Uh, must be in MEC one. I'm off the Woodman's pack. No, it's in what's the next one Grafton. Yup.
Yeah. I'm off the Woodman's pack. I'm strictly Walmart, Sendix and Piggly Wiggly now. And I'm glad to be done with Woodman's. It's a good establishment. It just didn't fit my vibe.
The cheap part I like, but literally everything else I didn't. It's too big. It's too bad.
My first donor buddies in college, they would specifically like, I always went to festival flex your wealth. Every time you bring that up. I know. Or Walmart. I went down to the Walmart on Lozy. Sure. Not Lozy. South side. Yup.
Well, no, not Lozy on Mormon Cooley. Yeah. The most beautiful view in a grocery store parking lot you'll ever get. It's across from like huge bluffs, no business being a parking lot. I went down there a lot, but then my buddies, where's the Woodman's on Alaska on Alaska. Yeah.
Yeah. They'd get, they'd get high and drive to Woodman's because of one reason they liked that you could park like you park up and down at Woodman's. Not like, not like the other way. So it's the only reason they went. So the parking was the hang up, not maybe the drive to like be high, not the traffic field. That's a bitch of a drive.
16. Well, it's not. Now it seems like the easiest drive in the world. But if you live in La Crosse driving to like that Buffalo Wild Wings or the Aldi all the way out towards 90, like that feels like you might as well drive to West Salem. If you're going all the way out there, it feels so far away.
When you drive to leave, see, this is different because I'm going, well, I always take 16 coming in and then, you know, sometimes when I was feeling frisky, I would take 53 and take the interstate and then get on exit three and not exit five. That just felt, that didn't feel natural to me. No, it feels like you're trying to rig the system and you might buy yourself 35 seconds, but that's it.
It's not natural. Yeah. Dude, I'd kill a human being to be at Moxie's right now. Would you not just do unspeakable things to be sitting at Moxie's?
No one's listening to this by this point of the day. Would you just do disgusting things to be sitting at Moxie's? I could sit there for eight straight hours and just drink light beer on Saturday.
Oh my God. Is Nutbush still open? But they rebuilt it and it's nicer, but it lost its charm. No. I just wish there was a portal that I could just like go to La Crosse for like an hour and then be back. Yep. Yep.
I wish I could live here and take my walks in La Crosse. Yeah. You're a walk guy now.
I forgot about that. I am. We're up to, we're only at 56 right now. 56 steps?
A hundred. Oh, Jesus Christ. You walked from bed to your basement studio? The other day I left the studio with 5,000 steps down. Wow.
I just did laps in the sales pit until one 30. Wow. Interesting. Okay. Committed. I've been going for runs.
It's my workout regimen. No one cares. Well, I did. You're the only one.
It was good. We need Paul's topics. No, we don't. Oh, okay. Well, okay. Maybe you're right.
We don't. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the best content this channel provides.
These days, it's some of the only content this channel provides. And now we're taking a month off. We'll be back. We'll be back. To what fanfare I ask you.
Oh. Radio Joe still listens. As long as we have Radio Joe, I think we're good. He's a discerning consumer.
I would still be making pods in July. We're just going to have a vacation like Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, it's been a great show Thursday as Jiminy.
I'm so amped. Dude, that Bill Hader interview is fucking awesome. So Willie Mays. Willie Mays died.
Oh, no. What do you find of him? Mike Pence.
You like Mike Pence? Yeah, I'm going to watch that before my show. Is it bad if tonight for my show, I just replay two interviews that I did during Bill's show earlier today?
That's fine. Oh, you hosted for Bill? Is he at his house?
No, he's at the Brewer game today. Well, when's the game going to end? Oh, you don't go on. Probably about 4.15. The alternative will not be good.
The alternative will maybe. I start to lose my mind around three hours and 15 minutes in. What were the interviews? Justin Garcia about the draft tonight and about the Bucks offseason.
And then Kurt Hogue just had to wait until his daughter took a nap because he's not at the ballpark today. Oh, I can't play that one. Why? Because now you've had a game.
What if I specifically rigged the question so it would be reusable? Too much work. You get 15 out of the game or a 30, they take you to 4.30. I probably won't go on until close to 4.30.
All right. Then you do the game till five and then you go over some of the trades and rumors at five and you play Garcia. What trades and rumors? NBA.
I'm so out on the NBA right now. Who's even in this draft? The one guy, I can't pronounce his name and haven't tried or looked it up. Alex Sar. Is that the number one guy?
Well, no, it was. That was great. Now it's Zachary R. Zachary R. All right, all right, all right, all right. We can talk about Jackson Cherry. I think what I'm doing is I'm, this is my topic of the day. I was really amped to ask Kurt about this is Pat Murphy's responsibility thrust into the Brewers manager's chair and all of a sudden being trusted with the $80 million infant of Jackson Churrio.
That's insane to me. Isn't it like, Hey, we didn't even do a Q and a from that. Yeah. You asked him that today.
Who Kurt? I did. All right.
So you're playing Garcia back. Absolutely. In its entirety. There's no question about it.
Okay. I played it twice. I played it. I did it at 10 30 so I could specifically replay it in the last hour. So this will be the third time it's funny, but the Brewer game was on.
It's true. And not all, not all the affiliates carry the first hour, five 30, no brainer, Justin Garcia. And then you're taking the Q and a from Kurt one excerpt. Yeah. And then you're doing a Churrio topic.
That'll give you 15, maybe some calls. That's for, I mean, that's the show's done. All right. That's what I'll do.
Thank you for shadow producing. I was on air with built. I was on air for bill today, watching the Brewer game. Billy Adamas battles to take a two out walk to load the bases. And then I go, Oh, here we go. Chance to crack this one open with two outs. Jake Bowers walks up to play.
I was, Oh, Oh, well we can wrap this up. Jake Bowers is up next. This guy. And I start bitching about, he hasn't done one good thing for the Brewers.
And then he hits a grand slam on the first pitch for base Bowers. Yeah, I guess. I suppose. I suppose.
Well, thank you for the advice. A show should be easy tonight. Should be, should be perfect.
Mine will be very hard. We're talking about Alex Sar for three hours. Get Gary Wolf on he's plugged in it's connected grant. I'll talk to you soon. See a part.
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