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MmHmm/Mm-mm: Can Green Bay support the NFL Draft? Joe Gow hearing breakdown, Monty Williams fired

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June 19, 2024 5:07 pm

MmHmm/Mm-mm: Can Green Bay support the NFL Draft? Joe Gow hearing breakdown, Monty Williams fired

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June 19, 2024 5:07 pm

The hosts discuss the upcoming NFL draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and the challenges of hosting such a large event in a relatively small city. They also touch on the NBA coaching carousel, including the firing of Monty Williams and the hiring of new coaches, as well as the age gap between Bill Belichick and his girlfriend. Additionally, they discuss the dating life of athletes and the challenges of navigating relationships in the public eye.

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I've been awake for 65 minutes. Yeah. Catch up. Catch-up sleep.

Well, now, Paul, I'm doing my new...

So I'm on a quest to 7,000 steps every day.

Okay. And I usually note that if I get there, I can get to 10. If you get to seven, you can get to 10. But I don't want to be holding by 10. I know there's some days where 10 is hard.

Yeah. So what I've been doing Now is Walking laps at work until 1:30. Oh, like so you you get you're done with the with the gig. And then you walk for a half hour. Keep in mind, I pay for a gym.

I basically go to gym at work. Yeah, well good. The one leaving the building. at 130 with 5,000 steps. Oh, right.

Yeah, yeah, okay. Which counts for the new day. Of course. New day, yeah, I think.

So. I can sleep in a little later. I don't have to get up and rushed. Mm-hmm. I don't have to get I don't have to stress about a walk.

Yeah. So if you can guys walk it Two in the morning. This is isn't this the Marco Belletti plan? A little bit, yeah. Because doesn't he like go to the high school?

I just heard that one time when he was saying he walks around the high school track. He gets done at like three, four, or five, and then he. Does laughs at the high school before he goes home. Yeah. And has to take the kids to school and then Yeah.

Because my kid will say, honk she, honk she, honk she. That's how we say sleeping. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not kidding you. You do it too.

Yeah. Kong shoes. Honk she, honk she, hunk she. Hung ching, hung shing. That's so weird.

No, that's pretty common, I think. Is it okay? I. I don't know. It's like, Paul, when my kid and I fall down, we say, boing.

What? You two? I don't do that actually. Oh, okay. Three?

So we're recording. We called it Hong Shing was like Hong King.

Well, we say she. Honks I don't know what I it's just it's a noise, so I don't know. We say honk shoe S-H-E-W. Honk shoe, honk shoe. Honk shoe.

Sure. We say sleep with one eye open, you little bitch. I thought you were quoting some Metallica for Grant. It's pretty long. See, I think it's different if you grew up in the era where Lars was trying to take down Napster.

That was definitely a negative for people of our age. Like, dude, Lars, just can we just download it? I waited all night for this file. Yeah. I went seven hours for.

Hey, now I'm an all-star to fucking download my gaza. Let me do it. I want to give a shout out here.

So it's Wednesday. We're two games down and the Brewers Series against uh Anaheim. They play Wednesday night, and then they're in San Diego starting Thursday. Another great win. I was so confused because I had it on my computer.

And free like puts his arm up. And I think the ball's on the floor, on the grass, because that's where my computer mouse was. Oh.

So, like, does this fucking idiot not know he caught, like, he didn't catch the ball? Mm-hmm. And then I was looking at replays and then I was because I was going to try to. video like where i thought the ball was and it didn't work out but then i was looking at replays i'm like wait a minute Did he catch the ball? Because it looked like he just went like this and was like, fuck it.

I'm going to try it. Yeah, I got it. I never saw him toss it, I never saw him do anything on the TV. But he caught the ball. Vincent's in Anaheim.

He has been hanging out there. Of course, he loves Anaheim, but he also loves. The Milwaukee Brewers, among maybe four or five other teams.

So he had the Brewers hat on again last night. With the Angels jersey.

So here is Vincent In Anaheim. See ya? See him. Hey, what's up, man? Man, it was a good one, man.

Boots on the motherfucking ground once again. Shout out to the Fart Winkle person, you know, all the everybody else, man. It was a game we lost.

Okay. Like I said, I doubt with the brew group. I doubt with the whole team. Hey, man, I'll keep it real. I'm about to my agents to come back on the Brewers, man.

But hey, the Brewers, man, who plays center field? Who plays center field?

Someone reminded me: great catch. Great catch, period, man.

So that's it. Game two go to the Brew crew. It's all good, win or lose, man. Still down for the home team. Anaheim, hey, Brewers made it a game.

My Angels made it a game. Great game, man. Game two close to the fruit crew, man. Boots on the motherfucking ground. Shout out to Par Week, Michelle.

So I thought at first he was being like. Yo, who plays center field? But then he was asking like. Guys, who plays center field? He just really genuinely wanted to know.

So I like it. If nothing else, Brewers, you can start the proceedings. Uh well. Yeah, sure. A wild lack of foreplay.

That was really. What? Yeah, let's do it. No, let's do it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. I just shot out Vincent at you. What else can I put? I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. When Vincent listens to this in December, it's going to be big when he hears this in five months, six months.

Yeah. Yeah. He was commenting yesterday. He was commenting yesterday, but I don't know that he was actually watching. I think he was just.

In the comments. Is he the guy? Was he the old 1250 caller who you wondered if he was real? Or was that someone else on the West? There was a caller you had, I swear, that you questioned.

Uh was real or not. It might have been Vincent. I think, like, what sometimes people will call up with. is a take or a personality or a character. That if I was trying to Script something.

This is it, yeah. I wouldn't be that clever. Even something like Oh, a guy passionately loves five teams in every league. And somehow the Brewers are one of them. Like, what the fuck?

And I still don't know how he found the show. Odyssey. I don't know. I mean, the best app. in existence, I thought.

Well, that's why I've been sleeping so long and so good is because I just put it under my phone or under my phone under my pillow. And just, you know, how when you used to cram for a test, you put the encyclopedia under your bed? Of course. Hope that it, yeah. Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile.

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Full terms at mintmobile.com. Yeah. First topic for you. You guys ready for like My official heel turn. I don't think you're ready for it, but sure.

Okay, so Bart, you do a good job of. When you really like like the but like the Boston Celtics 18 titles thing you try to explain that I'm just sorting through my feelings. I'm not, this isn't like, this is just the deal. I'm not trying to do a thing. This is not a take I'm trying to get over.

This is one that I just Was wondering the other day, and it probably sounds like a major heel turn. Um But I'm just sorting through my feelings on this as we do, as we do on this podcast.

So I'll preface by saying there was a handful of tweets about this is about the Packers, this is about Green Bay hosting the NFL draft. This is where my heel turn might happen. Pro Football Talk, of course, your friend over there had an article about it. Hotel rooms booked, Airbnb prices skyrocketing, Green Bay. Then there was a follow-up quote tweet to that about I honestly, I copy and pasted.

I apologize to the person who wrote this, but that multiple Green Bay hotels have said that the NFL already booked every room in the city. making it nearly impossible for out of to out of town fans to attend. I did see your real life best friend Corey Banke said that the house that's two doors from him. is $17,000 a night. Seventeen thousand dollars a night.

during the NFL draft. My topic for you as I sort through my feelings on this. Are you trying to wonder if Cheesehead TV should take the cash?

Well, I mean. I would rent my house for 17K a night. The site that's broadcasting, right? I mean, that's tough. That's tough.

That's got to be tough.

Well, could you, but could you make it back because of that? Could you make that money back? If they just broadcast from the house, they're not making $17,000. I was going to say, they're not making $17,000 with their draft show on night one of the. Yes, they could make it back.

And then that's what you're wondering. Then, yeah, you'd have to do it, wouldn't you? I didn't even know what to do. And you put super chats or no super chats. They're not.

Look at what the bar you did the draft from and go do it there. Seriously, it's like you gotta sell the house. Rent the house. Yeah, yeah. Like, if you're like, hey, I'm gonna 17K for night one, 17K for night two, and then we'll give you a night three discount, only 16K.

You guys made $50,000 for a three-night rental. All of this to say. And again, I don't know what my opinion of that is, but I'm certainly wondering. Sad as it is. Green Bay is, this is unfortunately proof that Green Bay shouldn't and isn't built as much as we might want it to be.

It's just, it's not infrastructure set up for the draft. Certainly, never a Super Bowl. But that this is kind of showing the Reason why. the cracks in the plan, the reason for the delay that Green Bay is unfortunately just not. Set up for this.

Mm-hmm or mm-mm. Where's the heel turn? I don't want to be anti-Green Bay getting the draft, but it kind of feels like you're just sorting through your feelings.

Well, like I said, but you, but people think that's a heel turn for you sometimes. Like, oh, how can you dare say that? You're like, no, I'm just telling you what.

So maybe it's not a heel turn. Maybe it's just a question and a. A curiosity, but I wondered if it would come off as like, what are you doing? You wanted to just go to Vegas? You wanted to just go to New York?

Give it so I'm glad that Green Bay is getting it, right? But unfortunately, the question is, so I would say the question topic: unfortunately, as much as we might want it to not be true, Green Bay is. It's already showing why Green Bay was is not. Uh set up. for this scale of an event.

Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. I'm gonna defer to my friend Grant if he's so inclined. Uh mm-mm. Because it's June of 2024.

And the draft is in April of 2025. But if every room is already booked, I think who the did Eli Berkovitz tweet that out? He's like, I called all the hotels and they said it's like. Like, I don't know. Go ahead, yeah, you go.

No, I just think we see one thing from somewhere and it gets blown up, and maybe it's a catastrophe. I don't know. Oh, hotel rooms are expensive. I don't know. Do you have the means and the free time to go attend a big thing or not?

You know what I mean? Like, I have a very different scale. I have a hotel. Or a wedding in two rivers, or two rivers, whatever they call it, in the end of July. Rooms.

At the hotel, we're 350 a night. 350 for a hotel little wedding. Like, hotel rooms are expensive, man. Of course, they're expensive. It's the draft.

So, like, either you can go or you can't.

So, I'm not saying, like, It's not being poor, but that's part of it. Like, you need discretionary income to do things like this.

So, I don't know. Maybe it ends up being a catastrophe, but I'm, but I'm not. I'm not stamping my flag on that take. June, a year before the draft, because somebody called some hotels in Green Bay and was like, the NFL booked it all up. I don't know.

It's just a little premature for me, Paul. That's it.

Well, if the NFL is booking it up, that's kind of bullshit. Like That's like Green Bay's fault.

Okay. What Hennepel can't have a draft here. And then book all the hotels. And then de facto jack up the price, and then they're gonna be like. Guess Green Bay was a failure.

Because guess who had insight into when the draft was going to be before anyone else and could then already pre-book the rooms? But can you book that far in advance? Kyle Shanahan once said, I don't even know if we'll be alive.

Next week, and the NFL is like call. I don't think you can book hotels that far in advance. That was fucked up. That was fucked up. I did like Joe Mazzoula's quote where he's like, Someone telling you you're good is as bad as someone telling you you suck.

I didn't catch that one. Oh, yeah. That was one of Manica. Um I think a few things on this. I think that First of all, all of this would be solved if there was.

High-speed rail in Wisconsin because then you could stay anywhere and who gives a fuck. Also, you could stay in Milwaukee. It's less than two hours away for a two-night thing.

So, Milwaukee to Green Bay, let's say you want to go from Milwaukee. Let's say you're staying that far. Because obviously, there's Appleton where teams already stay in the first place. Oh my gosh. You know, there are plenty of hotels up and down.

the Fox Valley. And I think we in our heads Think of Green Bay as, you know.

However, big it is. But I was looking at um Or the Florida Panthers play. Mm-hmm. If you're like in Miami, like in Miami, you're like 30 minutes away. It's like an hour away.

Oh, maybe with traffic. Yeah. And the city of Dallas, like, do you ever realize how much that city takes up? Yeah, these places are gigantic. A lot of these places are like Ashcash is one end of town and Green Bay is the other.

Good take. I didn't think of that. Yeah, so it it is far. I think. The issue would be Because it is actually different cities, and there's little like.

It's not like, oh, you know, I'm in Fort Worth. I got to go to Dallas. It's like, I'm in Oshkosh, and then there's a little tiny space, and then we're here, and then there's a little between Kakana. And it's just, it's like, oh man, I'm still not in Green Bay yet. But if it was all just if it was like Phoenix He'd be like, well, I'm on the other side, but.

It's still, my brain thinks I'm a dumb dumbhead. It's just a bigger city. I'm just on the ten, and I gotta get over to the. Yeah. So I think one issue with people is like if they want to like hang out and Gluggly gluggly.

I don't know if you do gluggly gluggly with your kids. I don't know that one. But like Ubers and taxis. Maybe that's what I should do. Maybe I should Uber for the weekend.

Yeah, you would Yeah. Or rendell. You know, as long as I'm still alive and employed by the NFL draft. That we can go to this one. And D for sure needs to.

Where am I going to stay? I'd probably stay. At my in law's In Fondi? In Appleton. Mm.

But what am I going to do? Stroll up with... Zach Gelbin JR to crash on some coaches. That would actually be kind of sick. Do they have like a Midwestern experience?

Would it be a good Midwest experience? I mean, the heart of Appleton. Like Midwestern basement, like any, like. It might be kind of cool. Oh, uh a little more contemporary basements, but definitely the basement a functional and featured part of the home.

Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they would I think they would get a different experience than the big city live in. I mean, Appleton, it's not like you're out in Anago. Like, it could be like staying in Appleton.

There are a lot of worse things. I think that's a great point about, like, if you just thought of the whole Fox Valley as one big. metropolis like Houston or like LA. I People would think about it differently. Staying different places, this might be even easier because if you're staying at a hotel in Oshkosh, you just hop on.

whatever, forty-one or forty-three, whichever one it is. You're not sitting in bumper-to-bumper track. It is, Grant. I don't know. I didn't grow up on this side of the state.

I don't know what it is. It's 41.

Okay. Well, thank God. Yeah. Give me. I deserve it.

It's an interstate. It's a recently turned interstate. It went to Hell Grant. Did I really deserve that? Did I deserve to be dressed down for not knowing the difference between these?

41, you could ride 41 all the way down to Florida. If I grew up in Fond du Lac and had parents in Florida, maybe that would matter to me, Barton. Oh, they're back for the summer. Where are they staying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They couldn't find hotels in Oshkosh.

Okay. No, Grant. By the way, I don't know either way. I drove through Oshkosh and near Fond du Lac for the first time last weekend because we did the drive from Waukesha up to Eagle River. I did a carpool and we left from a parking ride.

I've never done that drive before. I'm out on Hoshkosh. I'm out completely. I felt like I was approaching wall drug, the way they just blast you with billboards. For smoke shops and for everything.

I didn't like it. I didn't like the feel. You didn't do Fond du Lac? I don't near it. Yeah, the Fond du Lac drive there, it sucks.

It's a lot of like. Shitty Um Strip mall, kind of things. Like just real basic ass buildings that have been. A bank, a conventure setter, a cousin somehow. Yeah.

Just like random shit like that. It's not a good representation, not that there is one. But it looks very shitty. And then you get to Oshkosh, a town I've just flat out disgusted, been disgusted with my whole life. Which one are you disgusted by?

Oshkosh. Oshkosh. I think the town map and layout is a broken fucking mess. I don't think they take advantage enough of their lake and/or river. It's very disgusting.

It's the downtown is stupid. Yeah, yeah. Do they have a music mile, or what is it? Or that's an Appleton. Right.

What is that? Mile of music. Mile of music. All right. Is that cool?

I had a listener lecture me because I said Appleton sucks because everyone I met at UWL from Appleton thought they were the hottest shit in the world. Like they were from Los Angeles. If you live in Appleton, you think you live on the Madison Avenue of Wisconsin. That's what I'm saying. Where does it come from?

I don't know. Like, we could be in a, this is always what I would experience. We could be in a social group. Let's say there's five people, and one's like, I'm from Chicago, and another one's like, I'm from Minneapolis. And one's like, I'm from Milwaukee, born and raised right downtown.

And then someone else in the group will be like, oh, I'm from Oshgosh. Like that is comparable. And it's not, and I don't, and I don't get where they get this sense of entitlement.

Well, even I met people in college that would be like, Oh, I'm from Waukesha. But they'd say Milwaukee.

Well That's fine, right? No no that but so you're in Ashkosh What do you say? What do you say? I'm from Green Bay. No, you say I you say Oshkosh.

to the majority and Milwaukee people. Fucking get all bent out of shape when you say stuff like this, but to the majority of the state, like anything. A connum walking in. Can be Milwaukee. And then, if someone is like, oh, where in Milwaukee?

Well, actually, you know, out in Waukesha. Like, that's not offensive. You know what I mean? Like, that's, and I, like, I would tell people, I'm from BioClaire. And if they know ball, if they know that area of the state and they ask, then I can specify, right?

But like, it's just a. It's a convenience thing. Don't get all bent out of shape because people lump Waukesha into Milwaukee. They're 20 minutes away. If you were an alien.

that came down or even a time traveler. But somehow you found yourself in Appleton. and you walked around for two to three days. you would go back to your superior and be like Yeah, I mean, it's a decent town, a lot of corner bars. People seem relatively happy.

I don't know if they are happy or just don't know that there's happiness outside of the borders. But the one thing I found interesting is that everybody wears the same uniform. And your superior would be like, well, it seems a little different. It's like, no, all the moms dress the exact same. Whether it's from Coles or TJ Maxx, all the guys dress the exact same.

They all wear their polos, which are their nice shirts, with their little fucking Dumbass Industries. The name is Dumas. Work logo. Yeah. Yeah, the work logo there.

Mm-hmm. The kids are all still stuck in fav jerseys 'cause Parents can't spring the extra 20 for a knockoff Jordan Love. I don't know. To my Appleton audience. I have no apologies to say.

I lived in Nina for a while. When I was Covering you almost moved to Nina. I really, I mean, I was not almost, but. Grant, what is this mean? 'Cause I was working in Fond du Lac and she was in Green Bay.

Ah. That was that was Bart's why. My why is covering the Packers and not wanting to live in Green Bay and so We're trying to figure out where in the f Fox Valley, we wanted to why do you want to live in Green Bay? Too much Packers, all the time. I really did not want to be any closer to the you didn't want to, you didn't want to run into Cletius Hunt or TCBY?

See, and honestly, like, that's the kind of stuff that even when You know, you wasn't work I wasn't working, but you're in Green Bay and then Like You it was hard to not go just to eat in Green Bay. and not run into a player or two or a coach. And it's just like that awkward, like. Hi.

Well, we spin each other's face enough for a wait. We just not. Maybe if you would have wrapped your arms around all Packers all the time, then you wouldn't be doing this podcast with us twice a week, Paul. Once a week, Paul. I'm much happier doing this.

Why didn't you start Paul Head TV all those years ago? There was already Cheese Head TV. It wasn't as big as it is now, but. It existed. It did.

I actually do understand that. That's a reasonable. That's a reasonable explanation. Yeah, it really was too much already too much. I thought you were going to say, like, I wanted to get out of the city.

It's like, you don't work in Manhattan, Paul. It's Green A. But that is an explanation that I'll accept. That makes sense. I mean, honestly, it's kind of like, you know, Domofsky's stories of like, and then I saw McCarthy at this, and then we were at the kids saw the kids.

Baseball game. And, you know, so I just didn't want any of that. Except Domofsky's on Sports Center. Maybe that's why. I don't know.

Oh, he was already on America's pregame, guys. Yeah, that's true. Come on, you didn't catch me with Mike Hills. Fox Sports 1. I did not.

I did see that Rob Domofsky is watching Hogan play in Greece because that's where Lawrence has a. Trap, like I traveled, you know, something or other.

So that was pretty cool.

So, Rob, Rob finds time too to get out of Green Bay, just get away a little bit. But hit it hard in a couple weeks. It is, it is such, I mean, Green Bay is truly such a small community, and it is.

So, so, so, so Packer-centric that it's its own, it's its own world. It's its own world. It's New Richmond with a football team, is what it is. And that's, and that's fine. It's not my bag, but it would, if I went to the Packers facility every day for work, I totally understand.

That's, I learned a little something about you, Paul. I appreciate you sharing that. Oh, you're very welcome.

So, who's going to the draft? Like, seven million people went to Detroit, right? No, 700,000. Yeah. Yep.

700,000. And this, this pro football, the reason I brought this up is because I thought it was a little bit off the beaten path, something different to discuss, but it's because of this pro football talk article, which was not actually written by Florio, but by one of his, you know. Counterparts. And it does note, actually, granted to your question earlier, that the Green Bay Press Gazette. Said that nearly every Green Bay area hotel room is already booked for the week of the 2025 NFL draft, and Airbnb prices are skyrocketing.

Uses the example of someone is renting their house for the week. For the week, not for three days. $142,000 for the week plus taxes. It's like, I've never bought a house, but you could. There's at least one down payment tucked in there for a house, isn't there?

Oh, sure. That's a massive. I mean, maybe, maybe not, maybe not in the burbs, but certainly in Bart's neighborhood. I'm kidding. Bart has a bart has a bar.

You have a nice house and a lovely neighborhood. I didn't need it. We can cut that out, Tim. Anyway, so I guess I am. Very happy for Green Bay.

I'm very curious how it's going to play out. And I do wonder how far we'll be like. I love doing Surveys, not that I actually do them, but I would love to do them where Where are you staying? I want to survey like all seriously, this is kind of stuff I nerdly nerd out on, but like, I wanna know where everyone stayed, and what is the average distance it takes them then to actually get to the draft from where they're staying? And how would that compare to Detroit?

How would that compare to Vegas? Certainly, like in Vegas, there's.

So many options. It's like, oh, that took me eight minutes to get to the draft from where I was staying. It'll probably be like. An hour average? What would you guess like the average will be of how far it's going to take from wherever person, wherever draft attendee X is staying to actually get to their spot at the draft?

It'll probably be like. A lot of Manitowoc, a lot of Appleton and Oshkosh, right? Even probably quite a bit of Milwaukee. I don't know. Well, it was a ponderance of mine.

A curiosity. Baseball should make sure the Brewers have a series that weekend, I would say. Oh, that'd be a lot. The schedule's already out, so we should actually already know. For next year?

The MLB schedule comes out so far in advance. No, it's not out yet. But probably like we're like, it's very within the next two months' time. Yeah, like you're always halfway through the baseball season. Like, here's next year's schedule.

It's always some fucking like random Tuesday. Unbelievable. By the way, one more thing to add before we move on. Paul. I am I am likely to believe that this will be a great success because it's the NFL.

And I just, you go back through even recent history, there's not a lot of L's to find. With anything the NFL does. But don't think of this as a test for a Super Bowl. I mean, that's never right. Nope, nope, nope.

But what's so odd about that is like, you would. Maybe I'm wrong. I think you'd get I mean, a stadium can only fit what the stadium can fit. But if you're going to get 750,000 people to the draft, if you can support that, You theoretically you can support the 75,000 that would come for a Super Bowl. Yeah, but these media types don't like coming to Minneapolis for 88 degrees.

Oh, this is not NBA media, though. True. NBA media wouldn't be. They bitched about the Super Bowl in Minneapolis, though. Back in the day, lots of people did.

Then they went to Dallas Storm. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, it was. It was a little cold in Vegas, if I'm being 100% honest, just a couple months ago. I wasn't a big fan.

I would have liked that to be a little different, but that's fine. It was a little chilly. It was a little chilly. NBA Summer League sometime in the middle of July? I want to.

Like, I've schemed. I'm always scheming. I've schemed. It's like I could go there, broadcast, but I don't even like NBA regularly. I could get out there for that.

I don't like the NBA playoffs now. And now I'm supposed to go. watch Summer League? I don't know. I'm very burned out on the NBA.

Um after a kind of a lackluster Conclusion to all this. But Summer League, though I've not been, I've watched it on TV like a total nerd, like, oh, it's two o'clock on a random Tuesday. And like, there's a. Is he how long can he hold that faith for a grant? Fuck you.

So then, but I'll watch it. But I think that would be so fun. It just seems like its own universe. But to that point, I only bring that up because it's apparently always, wow, he looked frozen. It's always like, I want my new internet, bitch.

It's 100 degrees grand in July in Vegas. Yeah, it is. And I used to love the idea of Summer League a lot more before the one time where Palo and Chet were going to play against each other, and the teams were like, no, we're going to rest him. I'm like, fuck you guys. Like, if you can't play those two guys in that game, then why should I ever care about this product?

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Okay, well, I'll bring in Graham Phils here, our UWL legal correspondent. Yeah. Do uh Yeah. What's the latest? How's your thread going?

I went full Aaron Rupar.

Well...

So the opening statement was great. And then they brought in an investigator, and it was difficult to hear him. This was the person who went through the guy's computer. And then, you know, he presented, and then UW asked questions, but then Joe Gao has a chance in all of these instances to cross-examine.

So, Joe Gao was like, where did you stumble across these videos? You found them, just to be correct, like. I don't know. He's role playing a lawyer.

So that was pretty entertaining. They brought in Linda Dickmeyer, who did you ever have her in class, Dr. Dickmeyer? I had a class with her where we're talking. We got to do a professional reset.

We're talking about Joe Gao, the. Embattled ex-chancellor. the trial of the well the hearing of the summer Of uh Oh. of the chancellor who got booted from UWL because He was Sleeping With his wife. That's it.

Stop. You and everyone else, like, am I the only one who can talk about this like an adult? That's not why he's in trouble. People nail the wife. You found the videos.

Yeah. What do you mean I found all the b oh those videos? Oh yeah. Yeah, I did. He was making pornographic videos.

Adult films, explicit material, yes. I want to begin by acknowledging that, yes, my wife Carmen Wilson and I created a series of sexually explicit videos and books. We did so on our own time using our own money. And as I'll show, we did not intend to profit from sharing those videos and books with other people. And most importantly, we certainly did not want to force anyone to read or view them.

We respect that many people do not wish to view sexually explicit material. Wait, I love his ending on this one. It's great. You need to watch this on the Dan Shanning YouTube stream. See that the prosecution in this case.

has entered into evidence sexually explicit images from our videos. We hope the prosecution is not going to force anyone here to view those images. And I would suggest if you are going to present them, that you give people a warning. If they don't want to see that kind of thing, you can leave the room. I'm very sorry.

About that, what's to be sorry about? I didn't like that he said, I think that kills his case. His case was dead on arrival. What else have you clipped from this? Don't, the first cross-examination.

Although, look at him fucking with the mic. Oh, it's like he's you think he'd have a little more s experience with phallic objects like that.

Okay. Bye. The bottom one, him going back and forth with Dr. Dick Meyer is pretty wild because basically that part of the, if you go back and watch it, that part of the. The hearing was wild.

Because was this after they asked her if she wants him to teach in the apartment department? She is speaking about how he used to come and he would want to be a part of classes. And she's that was the whole point of the videos, yes. Yeah, it was, she's like, It never made any sense. Like, it would take too long.

We didn't know what to do with them. And they're asking, he wants to keep teaching. And she's like, Do you want him to keep teaching these high-level CST classes, these communication studies classes? And she's like, no, no, not at all.

So he's arguing that he should. He got booted as the chancellor, but wants to stay and teach. Yes. Instead of just securing the Monty Williams bag. And fucking running away.

A huge bag. For someone who's like, none of this needs to be happening. No. This this is like this video is more graphic than the fucking porns he's making. Yeah, he's yeah.

Just take the money and run, dude.

So, uh, Miss Dickmeyer, I guess I'll say. That's Dr. Dickmeyer. I had my own little discipline. It was a Titan of a marriage.

It was Linda and Scott. Mhm. Did you ever have Scott in class? I did. Respectfully, Linda.

Well, Linda, Linda, Linda, and I, she was a professor that was, I think, pretty close. I was with at the time. I never had her, but I did have. I had a disciplinary meeting with her in a third party. Why?

Because of things that I well, I said them, but it was on, I did it was on a podcast with me and my two buddies, and those two, for whatever reason, were not involved in anything. Didn't Joe Gao do your podcast? Yeah, and I can't find the fucking audio, and it's driving me nuts. He's just like, yeah, I'll do it. He just showed up by himself.

Um I was in a class of Linda's where it was 15 people and I was the only dude. What class? Interpersonal or extra personal or extra. Not at all. I take it interpersonal.

I didn't, uh, I obviously did not capitalize on my situation.

Alright, I wanna watch this Q and A then. Yeah, he's not even.

Someone asked you, is he suing? No. No. Although he does threaten potential litigation in this clip, which I think is a significant part of the proceedings. Why is this hearing available to our eyes and ears?

WXOW. But why, in the first place, like. Couldn't they just have done this and not told anyone? That's I would bet you dollars of donuts, the UW would have loved nothing more than to do it that way. Yeah.

Alright, so this is a Q and A with him and my girl Linda. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so well this isn't a courtroom, right? It's not. I mean we're gonna I'm trying to convince you.

And other people.

So, but maybe we'll end up in a courtroom. I don't know. So great. I'll let it go at that. Thank you.

I just want you to ask a question and let her answer.

Well, I did ask her. Do you recall? I said I would teach in any format you like, any days. This is buffering on my end, not on your end. Just leave it.

It's good. Oh, you dick. I know. That's a real big plume. I'm imposing myself.

Right. And I was waiting for that answer.

So the classes listed were four classes that you would need recent, current. Media studies is a very fast changing area of expertise. And so we are concerned, we have no evidence that Dr. Gao would be able to teach those high-level media studies courses at this time in his career.

So you don't think My experience being interviewed. By the New York Times, the way the Grand Bills podcast. The Times of London, CNN, NBC News, Nightly News, Nightline. That wouldn't be a good experience. Those aren't theories or context or content that we teach in media studies courses.

The body language, I didn't notice that. That's gotta be a meme. That's gotta be a meme. The look he gives his wife after replying with it. I didn't notice that when I cut it.

That fucking rules. He's like, you'll load it up. Joe, we don't think you have the experience to teach. This class. You don't think because I've been interviewed about my porn?

10 of the most reputable companies. I can't. No, it's like, Joe, that's the reason. The fate, he's beside himself that that did not stick, is a talking point. Anyways, it's like Norm McDonald's theory that the joke's the funniest when it's just a repeat of the punchline.

Yes. Yeah. Joe Gala's. He's answering the question in the answer. Hey, Paul.

That's what you're supposed to do. Never mind. I Whatever. All right, Paul Immig is back. Thank you.

Grant Bills, our UWL correspondent. And I have no idea. the context of any of this.

So I'm glad you guys did that in my absence. Maybe it's a good transition to the following topic. Mm-hmm. What on earth could this be? Bill Belichick.

Oh no. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. Yeah. Bad.

That was all I was going to ask. Are you just trying to get me to say what I texted you the other day? You are your own decision maker on such things. I did say it last night. I did.

I said It is disgusting. It is weird on both accounts. But If the unthinkable happened. And I was a lonely old man at seventy five. I don't think I would I don't think I would uh look for reasons to not pursue that.

So that's the PG version of what you said. I think of the always sunny scene where someone is explaining to Mac, like, oh, my boyfriend put. Naked pictures of me on one of those revenge porn websites, and Mac is like, That's disgusting. Where though? Like, which websites did he put him on?

Like, the That's my response to this: is like, that's awful. But also, like, if I was 75 and I, Terrible, but also I would too if I was him. Why not?

So, how do I put up? How do I put up? Do I put up a screen mirror here of our text issue? No, please. No, some things are left.

Best on said. I wouldn't do that to you. All right, that's all I have on that topic. Yeah, thank you. I do have a different coaching one though.

Monty Williams was fired with five. One more thing. Go ahead. Oh, you have more. Oh, boy.

Okay. Well, I had a boss once who Just started he's twice as old as me, started dating a chick my age. And I think Yeah, okay. You look at each other, you don't, age is just a number. I get it.

If you're in a relationship, age is just a number. But can we think about everyone else? who has to be around this and pretend like it's normal. Right. Like I'm 65, my new girlfriend's 37.

Yeah, that doesn't trigger immediate responses in both. What are you doing? But honestly, what the fuck is she doing? Mm-hmm. Like who's it worse for?

The only good part the only well the most interesting part of this has been some of the replies. Is it better or worse if she's a Patriots fan? If she's like, oh, I don't know about football, is it worse? Or is it worse if she's like I secured the coach. Yeah.

He brought it up. Don't give me the yeah. That is true. Paul did bring it up. And Paul's not the one to bring these things up normally.

I think there's two interesting things. Um I think there's two like Well, whatever.

Okay. So back to the text on that one, I think. In Parks and Rec. Andy Dwyer did ask, he was trying to figure out if he could ask April out on a date. Yes, Tom Haverford, he said.

Is this weird or was it and Tom said, you know the rule. Divide divide by take your age, divide by two, and add seven.

So then Andy's like, okay, I'm 29 and 14.

So Belichick does not pass the Tom Haverford rule because that would be 72 divide by 2, 36, add 7, 43. 43 is uh 19 more than this girl's actual age.

Well, when you could be your girlfriend's dad's dad. Yeah. I think there's gotta be a cutoff there. That's weird. But there was there was some tweets that I saw, which were basically like, Your daughter brings home a guy who's like, Dad, I'd like you to meet, this is Bill.

It's just fucking Bill. Yeah, here's the tweet: imagine bringing him home to dad, like, quote, this is my boyfriend, Bill Belichick. And then you get like the most like Belichick's this hard ass onto Cincinnati, but then you get like trying to. please and win over the girlfriend dad version of Bill Velichek. And he's like, oh, great, great, great to meet you, sir.

So I'm flattered. He's submissive to her father. I'm going to look up is she like Instagram famous or is this just like a normal? He met her on a plane. She was doing her physics homework.

Oh my god. Is that a real? That's what I read.

So, the picture that TMZ used or that they used of them on the plane, that was like when they met? I think so. Oh my god. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Hmm. It's a good way to Cap this all off.

Okay. Hmm. She looks like such a child. I don't know. Yeah, that's so that's the plane where and Like the look from, I mean, is that the first time?

Is that Belichick's only smiling photo in the history of Belichick photos? Yeah, six Super Bowls do nothing for the man. Dating a girl six decades younger than him is where you get the f the frown to turn upside down a little bit. Yeah. I mean, this week has featured the Belichick story.

It featured T.Y. Hilton. Having his son commit to the Badgers, T.Y. Hilton, who's 34. That's right.

It's been a week. For like Age, interesting age. Like, wait, how wait, Tiwa Hilta has a kid that's the badges? Age is just a number. A number that defines how old you are and what socially acceptable other people you should be together with.

There's all which is a number. Yeah, totally. I'm going through sometimes I just like I save some of these things just in case I would might randomly bring them up. And here's one that's totally off topic, but I'm just going through like the news of the week, the things that I found interesting of the week. And there's this one.

I don't know who sent this, but maybe you guys saw this on Twitter. X. Um, someone sent the following Father's Day message to their dad: Happy Father's Day, pop. You've taught me how to be a man, a husband, and one day a father. I am who I am today because of you.

I'm thankful every day of the opportunity to learn from you. You're my hero. I love you, dad. To which the dad responded, driving. I did immediately see that.

I thought it was awesome. I feel like he's he and his dad were working together for a setup and a viral tweet. Either way, I appreciated it regardless. All right. I do want to, I was starting to ask then, unless you have anything else on Bill or other.

No, please, God, don't make me say anything else. The NBA coaching carousel is officially out of control. Mm-hmm. Or this, of course, on the heels of Monty Williams, who last year got, I think, was the richest. Coaching NBA contract in history, I'm pretty sure.

Six years, 80 million, or whatever, 78 million. He leaves with five years and $65 million left. Is still getting $20 million from Phoenix after that buyout or that firing and then. The money's guaranteed. And Bart, you had a topic about this after Uh Cleveland Bickerstaff was fired.

But When they hire. They haven't yet. Do you still need a coach? Wait, who are we talking about? Cleveland.

Yeah, they have not.

Now it sounds like it might be James Borrego, but now Detroit also wants James Borrego. You can't fire Monty with 60 million left for James Borrego.

Well, like, let's use your James Brego. I mean, was the house on fire? Like, you just woke up after you. It must have been. No, they got new management in there.

Trajan Langdon, which is also. weird. Troy Weaver's gone. Trey Weaver's gone. Trajan Langdon is in.

But um this big market kind of Well, I'm the new guy. I better make an immediate change to both put my stamp on the place and. Um, show that I'm in charge and you should fear me. Like. Yeah.

Maybe maybe they just needed a new person. Maybe everything's running fine and You just need a new guy to fill the job because somebody else left. We don't always have to. come in here and you know Take over your Sim City and then my guy. I got to get my guy in there.

And then it's not even like your guy. It's just like some guy who was last man standing. Just James Borrego. Yeah, James Borrego. Oh, my guy, James Borrego.

And I guess they worked together for a couple of years and. Nolins who trades with Langdon and him? Yeah. Okay. I booked my cat tweet as well for use on my show and others.

Yes. I heard it on the Jim Rome program. You were listening to the Rome program.

Well, I gotta be honest. Um He has been probably the main catalyst in the times I have said X instead of Twitter. Interesting. Because Jim Roman X. I was really hoping to see him last weekend when I was in Eagle River.

Oh, his, I think it's next month, is when his. vacation is we went to the bar where his son works we were talking to bartenders No, no, he was not. His son or Jim Rome? It was a bunch of ladies and somebody in our group who Whatever. You probably get that all the time.

Yeah. He was like, Does Jim Rome work here? And the ladies are like, Who's Jim Rome? They were like, younger girls. And one of the bartenders remained on the other end like.

That's so-and-so's dad. And they're like, oh, like they don't know. Like, complete Justin Timberlake treatment, right? Like, they don't know who it is. That's the other, that's the other news of the week.

Yeah. But we went by his house. Our boat captain's like, that's Jim Rome's place. I go by here all the time. He's out floating in his little.

Thingmab off the dock.

So, no, but he wasn't up there. I definitely, I would have gone, I would have gone to talk to him. But I would have named you my colleague in the legend. I would have named Dropped Euro. He'd be like, who?

Is it that guy who has no filter? You hear the promos, Jim. They run all day. That's what it says? Have you never heard of him?

About me? The promos? Yeah. Your you've never heard your promos that run. What does it say?

It says Bart Winkler has no filter. And then it is. I'll find it. Oh my goodness. I don't fucking know that.

That's really funny. I have no filter? They run all the time on OZN. I'll go find one. I never heard it.

I got no idea. That's funny. You're all I got, I got a cut an hour audio, anyways. You guys keep going, and when I find it, I'll play it for you. We can judge the Detroit was my team last year that I kept being because They were getting their ass kicked in terms of win-loss, but I also thought that they would make the playoffs this upcoming year.

I've said that. Yeah. Now, whether I adjust that to say it's the play-in is what I meant, or whatever. But I think that they have a nice thing going in terms of I don't know how it's gonna work, but they have the potential of it working. I think there's enough good talent there.

They're getting fucked in the draft repeatedly, which sucks. Yeah. But and I don't I don't know who you convince to come in there, whether they want to throw I mean do you throw a bag at Derrick Jones Jr. You throw a bag at Clay Thompson.

Well, they did that with Jeremy Grant, and wow, that sure. And Bojan. Like, they've been throwing bags at players like that. And in theory, Paul, I thought some of those things were going to work. It's like, well, you need some veterans, good shooting along the young guys, and it's.

Yeah. Yeah. But Bart, I mean, if it wasn't broken with Bickerstaff, like, but seriously. You really have a year or two. You don't even you're not even assured a year.

We just saw that. Yeah, you're right. What do you got to do to be coaching by the all-star break? Let's not act like coaching's the only job where you need to produce or you lose your job. Like, if you went to work, if you got a new job and you worked for three or four months and you were bad, you would also lose your job.

Like, let's be fair here. But the difference here, though, Graham, or an NFL kicker, as the Packers have just released, Jack. Podlensky. Ah, big, big loss. No, but grant, the difference is that they still have to pay him for the next five years.

It's not like a typical employee where you're like, well, this didn't work. It's not like a pity little severance. $65 million. It's right. to not coach.

He's gonna get $85 million from two NBA teams to not coach. The Bucks are paying three coaches. Budenhoser is double dipping. To go back to Joe Gao. Imagine if Monty was like.

No, no, no, I don't want the bio. I just want to still work here and be a scout. Yeah. That's what Joe Gau was trying to do. I don't want the bag.

I want to teach.

Well, do you have any experience? Yeah, I did a 15-minute Zoom with NBC News and Political last month. And they hung up that Zoom and were like, Jesus Christ. That's how that went. You know what I mean?

This fucking guy's doing porn? What is he? Who's watching that? Where's the market for that?

So, I love that this is a topic that you brought up, and it's something that I'm going to talk about tonight, mostly because, God, I need things to talk about. Oh, Monty Williams got fired. I was, I woke up, I was like this. Yeah, uh-huh. Because I can spin Reddick into that.

Oh my God. I can do that. I'll get my full hour on coaching. I I just Paul, you seem perturbed by this.

Okay. I think the s I think the system's broken.

Okay, okay.

Okay, so let's stop right there. Who is it broken for? Is this the fault of teams? Is this the fault of players? Is this the fault of the coaches themselves?

There is frustration from you. I'll tell you who's going to direct it. I'll tell you. Sure, go ahead, Bart. Speak for him.

Yeah. How dare Grant oppose one for me, you dickhead? What? The phone. The phone.

The microwave society that we have fallen into by these contraptions, which it's like: are you walking the dog or is the dog walking you? Mm. Interesting. Okay. Grant, it's the f it It's um Met Ishbia in Phoenix.

You know, it's just like the new guy comes in and Bart said it, but like he wants this person, whoever, like, they always want to put their stamp on the thing. And so you have I don't know. It it is. Probably societal to some degree, but it is like in the NBA, there's such high stakes. Everyone wants to feel like.

Well, look at the thing that I did. Look at the guy that I hired, the player that I traded for. I came in and I made a splash. I think that's a rich. Masculine thing.

I think that's a men in power thing. That's what that is. That's why I'm saying, like, societally, I don't think it's just reserved for the NBA. It's that.

Someone Enters into their new high-profile situation, particularly ownership type of thing, and they're like. This needs to become my vision. And it's like, well, but like, this guy was just hired a year ago, and you owe him $65 million. He's a really well-respected coach, one of the most liked guys in the NBA circles. I don't care.

It's like, well, but okay, okay, you can fire him. That's okay. Who are you going to hire? I don't know. Well, that's I gotta I gotta hire a guy too.

It's like I can pick between like so I can pay Monty Williams. By the way, I still have to pay Monty Williams every dollar, every cent. Yes, you do. I'll still fire him. And so, who are my candidates to maybe replace him?

Well, James Borrego, but we're gonna have to compete with Cleveland for James fucking Borrego. Like come I mean what are we what are we doing? Here here's another thing. In the NFL, you fire your coach, and there's like five guys that fans know: I want this guy. This guy isn't.

Grable isn't coaching this year. Belichick isn't coaching this year. Like, this is. This DC, there's a million up-and-comers. Where are they coming from in the NBA?

We don't know who these guys are. There's no young rising talent. I mean, Jesus Christ, Reddick. Imagine who's the NFL equivalent to JJ Reddick. Where if someone in the NFL came out of the media, get a job, you'd be like, Greg Olson.

Yeah, well, I guess they did it with Jeff Saturday, and everyone lost their shit. Like, to be fair.

So, and that was in the middle of the year, so that was a little different, but. I don't know. How can a fan base get excited about any of these guys? When was the last time the NBA team hired a coach and the fans were like, Yeah, we did it. I think, like, what a great hire.

I do think Dan Hurley would have been that. I don't.

Well. Really? Would have been sexy and entertaining. We know who he is. Like, you'd have reason to believe you would have been like, oh.

Like honestly, kind of like Doc Rivers, though he's not. The world's best coach, like he still has name value, and you're like, oh, I remember Doc Rivers. I know Doc Rivers. Like, here's another thing, but Sam Cassell can't get a job. Yeah, that's odd.

Sam Cassell, every year people talk about, well, they should hire Sam Cassell, and he never gets hired. Bart, I heard you get a call from when you're on your national show from a guy that's like, what the hell? Why? I mean, Sam Cassell can't get it.

So, like, all these guys are getting first-time jobs. Cassell has put in. The years on the coaching staffs on the bench. Like 15 years. A lot of years.

Like a lot of, not a short amount of years either, like a lot of years. Yeah. I don't know. I just think it's it's broke. I just think it's broken.

It's not I don't think it's necessarily bad or good, but but really it's like You see, these are, and they're just reports, so we should take it all with a grain of salt. But it doesn't it's not totally dissimilar from These reports that you guys might have seen where it's like, well, if Donovan Mitchell extends, his agent team is hoping Darius Garland goes to a Western conference team. It's like, you're not really anywhere. Like, even like, it's like, oh, this is my teammate who I really like, and we're a pretty good backcourt. We made the playoffs, and we probably would have advanced farther if not for.

The fact that Jared Allen got hurt and then Donovan Mitchell got hurt. And oh, by the way, we hate our coach. Maybe that's another problem. But it's like, it's all just like pivot moves on the checkerboard or the chessboard, right? Where, Well, I like Donovan, but we're kind of a small backcourt.

So if you do re-sign him, trade me. But don't just trade me. Trade me to a Western conference team. That's what my agent wants. Yeah.

No, like who are you to We drafted you fifth overall, Darius. We liked you. We just had a good playoff year. We're getting a new coach. What do you mean, trade you if we re-sign Donovan?

Like, it's just. It's him or me, but you're But you're Darius Garland playing for the Cavs. Like, where do you? Yeah, where do you go? Who I really like, by the way, like.

I do too. Trade them. I don't know if we have another topic or something. I have found a promo. Would you like to hear it, Bart?

This is your promo.

So, I think what I have to do-you never heard it. I think what I have to do is mute you because I'm going to feed you my PC audio, but I can't have it loop back through.

So, I'm going to mute your tab. Give me a thumbs up when you can hear it if you can hear it start playing.

Okay. Mart Winkler has no filter. I still think the philosophy for me in the draft, if I'm a GM, I take my guy where I get where I draft. I'm not going to wait. I'm not going to trade back.

I'm going to get my guy. If there's a guy I want, I will do whatever it takes to get him. A lot of these teams, and there's been a couple of articles published this week, that the smartest thing to do in the draft is never trade up. Only trade up if you're going to get a quarterback. The right thing to do in most cases is to trade down.

Funniest part? Listen to what comes next after this. 1670 a.m. The zone. Oh.

Hey, bumper.

So like bumper, bumper everybody just game. Good to have you. Yeah. The play of the game was the play that ended the game. It's always the last thing in the spot set.

So sorry that I forgot I had a custom bumper put in there, but uh. Yeah, I hear that every day. Let's recap what just happened because a lot just happened. That Bart does say a lot of things where I would probably say, like, has no filter. It would not have been like his mundane take on.

Here's how I would go about drafting a quarterback. Bart has no filter. The Boston Celtics' 13 championships prior to 1978 are shit. That would have been a better jump. No filter.

Kind of goes hard. Can do it. I mean, I do have a filter. What people don't yet know is that your national show persona is extremely filtered. Yeah.

Like extraordinarily filtered. I mean, I it's it's getting more. I mean, in the beginning, we're getting more closer to Like me randomly ripping on this guy no one fucking knows Shane Young. Yeah, you yeah, you're getting there. Uh me being so like Guys, I'm not doing this to get you mad.

Well, I am doing it to get people mad.

So some of it's coming through. Austin called last night and he was like, he had his point and he goes, all right, so can I just, if we're going to trade Willie, I would rather think that we trade Sal Freelick, or and I'm like, Austin. He goes, no one cares. I go, no one fucking cares. He goes, I know, I just tried.

That's funny. What's on? Do you have more to say about your no-filter? Otherwise, I have a question for you. Yeah, and I have to tell you some news.

I did trade my pick. Oh, well, you couldn't have waited till after this?

Well, I got. I traded 310. Yeah. for a third in 2026.

Okay. and another fourth in this round. Mm. Which if you want four point zero eight I would take a fourth in 2026 if you want back in. Let me get back in.

Okay, so 'Cause I I only wanted one more guy and it was this receiver from the Cowboys. Cool. Ryan Flournoy. Oh.

Yeah, floor noise.

Well, he's a rookie seventh-round pick, but they're saying good things and they think he could be the number two by October. Grant Bart is One of the best in our one dynasty football league together and is the worst by a long shot in the other that we're in together. I've drafted in this draft. I took, who did I take? Marvin Harrison.

I had so many picks. It was unconscious. Marvin Harrison, Jonathan Brooks, Lad McConkie, Brian Thomas Jr., Trey Benson. Penix, and now my random dude. You had to be the one to take panics.

That just makes all the logical sense to me. Oh, yeah. My question isn't an topic. And I traded. Two picks for two future picks.

I traded up two spots from 205 to 203. You want my fourth round? I'll offer you that tray. Send it to me. Right.

Send it to me. I think 2026, who gives a fuck? All right, your question, then we should wrap up. I think that's the edge with dynasty leagues: just try to win now because you'll be amazed how many people just aren't trying to do that. But I'm not I'm not like future pick hunting.

I don't have anyone else I can cut. I'm adding seven players to my roster. Yeah. I'm gonna have to cut like...

So I'm trying to trade them for future picks, but the offers I've got have been shit.

Okay. Yeah, I'll trade you a pet fryer muth.

Okay, what do you want? Fourth round pick, fuck you. You know. Zach Moss for third, I entertain, but I have no running backs. Yeah.

Okay, why? What's the bartometer topic? That's my question. I'm doing the championship board. Such a dickhead.

Here's my other question for you.

Well, I think that one can generate more calls. If I just do draft bust, it'll be a one and done segment. And by the way, you could still do draft busts next week. Like after the end of the second round.

So next Thursday, the second round will have just been recorded. And then you could, and by the way, you could put whoever ends up, like, I just saw the draft comp for Alex Tsar. Who might go? He's probably something he's gonna go to. Alex R is gonna go two.

Yeah, I know some other guys won. The dude like Zacharias. I don't know how to say his name. The comp, like the comp for Alex Sarr, who might go one or two, is Nick Claxton.

So, like Nick Claxton might go. But, like, right. I like him a lot, but this isn't.

So my other thing is. We can talk about this off air if you'd prefer, and you can just cut this. But have you considered doing a Bart collar standings? Because I've been. Ranking what I really I just started it this week.

I just said, okay, I'm going to put down some names and I'm going to start to sort them through and then. Who would you put up? I was trying to kind of I was thinking of like what the acronym would be if it was like Yeah. Because if you wouldn't want it to be you, Bart, giving your opinion, because then you're making preferences. But if it was like neutral third-party you could, but then you probably wouldn't really be hiding behind.

It's like, oh, well, I'll tell you some people off the top of my head. Greg and Michigan would be on the list. Yep. For the main reason that People throughout the night call and refer to him. Robert in Annapolis is on there.

He's in mine. Uh the guy who I can't understand a fucking word he says. It's not on mine because I'm not.

Okay. They are really entertaining calls. Lee in Baltimore would be on there. Lee's on my list. Mm-hmm.

There's a guy, Stanley, in Chicago, that calls and shits on me about the Brewers.

Okay, I don't know if I have stayed. Hasn't called in a while since the losing streak. Who else you got? Rick in Toronto. Oh, fuck yeah.

Richard I like Super Dave in DC.

Okay, he's getting up there. He's only called a few times. He's kind of on a hot streak. Last night, I got Austin and Spark Guy. Oh, you got Spark Guy too.

Nice. And then I have your boy Steven in Appleton. Ah yeah, Steven. Who tries to get you to go to Brazil? Oh, Barry in Boston.

Barry in Boston. I got to add Barry. There's some good ones. But like I put like the fourth hour on Monday was, I had like three shitty callers in a row. I wish like Monday.

On at the four o'clock? Yeah. I did hear that. And at one point, it's like, this show desperately needs to be three hours. I'm gonna start pitching that on air.

But I never tell my boss, like, hey, Can you make my show three hours? But on air, I'll just be like, oh fuck. This has to be a three-hour show.

So, I put some like pros and cons for some of these guys.

So, like, Greg in Michigan, I would have said, Yeah, he would be higher if he could be more monogamous to the Bart Winkler show, but he's always calling this show and that show. He's referring to this host and that host.

So, Greg, Greg calls, right? But you can't be number one if you're not exclusive. You know, so like that was my demerit for him. And is it um? Robert's the one that gives you like The six questions, right?

No, it's James and Georgia. James and Georgia's got six questions. All right, James has got to go anyway. Sarah James and John. Robert Stone is always like.

Well, and I'm sick of tiring you calling about the NBA, but I'm going to also talk about the NBA.

Well Rick in Toronto is probably I don't I had not like officially I think Rick in Toronto is my number one. It is uh just a Treat that The most Rick-like and Ojkash color I have is also named Rick. It's awesome.

Okay, Bart, okay, I'll let you go. I'll let you go. He goes he goes and the thing you didn't bring up tonight was Uh Joe Hendry. He said that. Really, yeah, and I go, okay, I'm gonna bring this up only because I know what you're talking about, no one else does.

There's this fucking wrestler in NXT. I don't know if he's any good or not. I've never heard of him. He's from TNA. His debut was awesome.

I watched the first 15 seconds 35 times. And he was like stunned I knew what the fuck he was talking about. Oh, he d he wanted to stump you. Mm-hmm. You got it.

Yeah, that was bullshit today. I'm just seeing it now. Read it. He said. I recently chatted with a few NBA sources since X-Lakers head coach Darvin Hamm.

Join the staff. They were adamant in saying Giannis Anti Decumpo had major input in Ham's hiring. Shocking, huh?

Some of those same sources also contend that Ham, who had offers from several other teams, took the Bucs job with the assumption he'll eventually succeed Doc Rivers as Bucs head coach. I don't give it the succession that doesn't exist in real life. Everyone thinks that exists. Coaching succession plans only exist in New England. It's never, well, Jim Leonard thought he would succeed Paul Chris.

That was never, that was ridiculous. But the idea, oh, Giannis wanted him back, shocking, right? Oh.

Can you read the first part again? I'll tell you what really happened. And this is a big problem with our media today. The guy who was integral to the Bucks 2021 title, how did, I mean, Giannis is fucking killing me. No, read it again.

Read the beginning. I'll tell you what happened. From the very beginning or a very good place to start. I recently chatted. with a few NBA sources since X-Lakers head coach Darvin Hamm joined the Bucks staff.

They were adamant in saying Giannis had major input in Ham's hiring. Shocking.

Okay. What happened was Gary Wolfel. Texted someone who worked in the Bucks. A long time ago. And he said, like, what do you think of this ham hire?

And the other guy who's no longer with the team, probably hasn't been for a long time, says, Yeah, probably Giannis directed. And then Gary can paint that as I talked with a source of the NBA Who, you know, he's not news. He's just he's shit posting with his buddy and then making it look like news. Yeah. I just Even if Giannis didn't want to back, why wouldn't he?

Why wouldn't he? You understand? We get this. What does he say no to? Were the Bucs ever gone to him besides Nick Nurse?

Yeah that's true. But what he's right for. He heard us fans bitching about Nick Nurse for five years. He's not going to betray us by then having that guy come. The fans won't like it.

But the idea, we get this on our network all the time. Where it's like, well, he wanted Chris back. He's his buddy. Chris Middleton's fucking good. Like, I, what was he doing?

Yeah, and if you get rid of him, you get no replacement. People, Bart, how have we been saying that for five years? Where it's like, you can have Chris Middleton or you can have nothing in football. Why is it the Bucs' fault that they traded Drew to Portland and then did not interact with the Bucs? In the or the Celtics in this entire playoffs, but everyone's cool with the Mavs.

Trading Perzingis to the Wizards, who then trade him to Boston, and then they use Perzingis to beat the Mavs.

Well, because they lost.

So there is that. That was also longer ago. But also, like. Portland got nothing for Drew. Nothing.

They got two players made of glass. And they're not even getting rewarded for bad behavior. They're not even, they're getting, they're immune from it. No. I just, I don't, it's, we've been doing this for four or five years where it's like, hey, guys, you can have Chris Middleton or you can have nobody.

Fans are like, okay. And then the and then one thing will happen to me: like, why do they keep Middleton? It's interesting. I'll go like five for 17.

Meanwhile, That got Jason Tatum four MVP votes in the finals. He's the absolute worst, and we are all losers for having to watch him win a title. It's just miserable.

Sorry, Paul. I know we were about to wrap up, but I saw the Gary Wofel tweet. No, because of that, I'm going to play the thing and then.

Well dead. What thing? The Jason Tatum thing. Oh gross. About how he, uh, well, no, I can't find it.

All right, I'm gonna, I gotta, I gotta run, but you guys be well. See you, Paul. We can wrap up. Uh, I have I have the Jason Tatum thing. Do you want me to play it here?

Oh, I got it. I got it. I got it with you. I'll play another one next. Mine's different.

Okay. This is again, Dan Shaney, YouTube. This is Jason Tatum. Recreating everything that's ever happened in the NBA or otherwise. We did it.

Anything's possible, you good, anything possible. They're gonna say now. What they gonna say now? Who they live? And boss.

What are they gonna say now? I know everybody who know what happens if you didn't win. And she I guess we'll never know. Anybody want to know what I would do if I didn't win? I guess we'll never know.

Trouble. Daisy! Yeah! I just realized it was it's the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse show. Slowed down.

He sucks so much. This is the other soundbite of Tatum that I keep hearing everywhere. Mart Winkler has no filters. Shit. Wrong one.

I'll keep looking. Let's wrap up. I'll have it next week. Oh, are you pranking me, dog? No.

Bart Winkler has no filter. Nice promo. I like it.

Well, thanks for the time. Thanks for having me, Bart. This is always great. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here.

I gotta go get back to the Joe Gao beat. Yeah, maybe this will somehow boost his ratings. I don't know what he wants. It's like, dude, you could just make so much money and keep making porn, even. Like, they're not even Aaron Rodgers' disease.

He just wants, he just wants you to be aware of what Joe Gao is up to. I guess. Thank you, Bart, for the time. This is excellent. Grant bills.

And Paul and Mig. Thank them and thank you. Yeah. For stepping into the Winkler. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

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