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I am Bart Winkler. The Bucks are going to go down 3-1 to the Indiana Pacers. I don't see a need to wait for it. The game as I'm talking to you live. We got about two minutes left. Bucks are down 17. A competitive game sometimes, then sometimes it wasn't, and then sometimes it was again. But the fact of the matter is this is probably going to be the end of their season unless they come back from down 3-1, something Milwaukee's never done. So it is interesting.
There's a lot to talk about in terms of how this happened and why this happened and also how much it matters the way that it happened. I think the problem is there was no Giannis in the series. And even if the Bucks had won like in four games or had they gone seven games or had this gone six games or had the Bucks won or any of that kind of stuff, no matter what the outcome was going to be Giannis was not in the series. So I think there's going to be a lot of think tank stuff done about the Bucks when this isn't even the Bucks team. This isn't even the Bucks. I know that some Pacers fans are going to get on here and think that we're coping. I think around the league or around the NBA, a lot of people seem to think that Bucks fans are really big into coping, like we cope better than ever, we cope the most.
And I would think, sure, thank you. What are we supposed to do? Thankfully we won that championship. Thankfully we won that. But in the last couple of years, we've been hurt. People are getting hurt. And we can talk about that and do they need to fire the medical staff?
We can make this all Packers and stuff like that. But these Bucks teams that were watching bow out of the playoffs are not the full complement of the Bucks team, which is kind of crazy why they keep making changes the way that they do. Because they have a built-in excuse. The excuse is they're hurt. And so just run it back, run it back.
But then why run it back? Just to get to a point where you're going to get hurt again. So as we talk about this, welcome into the Winklerverse.
I am Barr Winkler. As we talk about this and try to figure this out and what it means and what's next and whatever, I think a lot of that needs to be in consideration is that this team is hurt. They are injured. Now, is that an excuse?
Yeah. But also a lineup that's mainly Middleton, Lopez, Andre Jackson, Gallinari, and Beasley. We don't have high hopes for that. That's not the team that they built. That's not a team that we're expecting to win a championship.
So I think a lot of that just needs to be considered, and I don't think it is. I think people are going to look at this series and laugh at the Bucks. People are going to look at this series and say, how did the Bucks blow it? People are going to look at this series and think that the Bucks got punked. Most people are going to look at this series and think that it's all on Doc Rivers.
Doc Rivers has had playoff losses that he has been the author of. This is not one of them. How could you say that? How could you even say that for a second?
I don't understand it. So about a minute left. Bucks still down 17 just in case you turn this on and you're like, wow, maybe I'm sure I'm in the palm of your hand right now.
Again, very demoralizing, very sad, very dumb. And we'll see what happens. There's still another game, game five, six, seven. Well, maybe Dame comes back. Maybe Giannis comes back. But for the most part, what we're gonna look at is up to these four games, what we've seen and what it means if we think this is the end of this series, which for the most part, we will be talking like it is because I don't know that Giannis is coming back. I never thought he was coming back. People keep, I say I don't think he is. Not in the series. And if he could play in game five, he could play tonight.
That's how I keep looking at it. If he could play tonight, he would have played Friday. Like the guy's hurt. And then Dame, I don't know that Dame comes back. Middleton, you gotta give all the credit in the world to Chris Middleton for what he's been doing out there.
The big game the other night. He's been the anchor for this team tonight. Somehow Brook is up to 27 points. I don't know how that happened. But again, who else was there to score? So it had to be Brook. So very demoralizing.
Some comments on YouTube. Brew Crew says it's nice that the NBA changed all the financial rules. So old teams with expensive salary players can no longer build. I think you're seeing that with the Suns. KJ says the Bucks are old and slow and not athletic. Time to trash this lineup. There should be some changes to the lineup outside of the injuries and all that. But like fundamentally, like Giannis, Dame, Chris, stay, okay?
I'd be open to any other kind of change. Tony says Miles Turner is such a front runner when the Pacers are winning. I think the way that they're celebrating is just unbelievable.
The way that they're celebrating. I mean, yeah, you're winning a playoff game. Okay, you're probably gonna trounce the three seed. But also, like I said online, you went from all men into all pro at minimum.
Probably on rookie mode. Like this is not the Bucks. Other teams get hurt and it's like, oh well, the Pelicans don't have Zion.
I get it. Other teams get hurt and it's like, oh well, the Clippers lost that one game, they have Kawhi. Although they're winning the games without him. But with the Bucks, the Bucks are not gonna, they're gonna get clowned for the 26-115 loss that they suffered.
They're gonna get clowned for it. And if you're thinking about the future, like, my God, do you wanna sit through a regular season again? This is why I try to detach myself from the regular season because none of it mattered. None of the regular season mattered.
Giannis hasn't played in the playoffs. Worrying about all these, the NBA model is broken. Now, I do realize that after the Brewers got bounced, I suddenly said the MLB playoff model was broken. And now because the Bucks are likely to get bounced, I now hate the playoff structure. So I do keep blaming the bigger thing here. I do realize that I'm doing that. Stylist Tom says, if Giannis doesn't play in game five, he's a wimp, any minute would be better than no minutes. I've realized, Stylist Tom, that you, I'm not kinda, I don't think we vibe. I like that you've been here and watching my stuff and commenting, but this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm mad I even read it. I don't quite understand. Ben says, Doc has been a negative influence on this team. What's his record, 18 and 21?
I don't think that you can use the playoffs though as part of that and the regular season. I don't know what happened there. Where do we go from here?
How do we get better from B money? Oh God, great question. I don't know. Austin's here. Hey Bart, how's it going man? Long time.
Hot take Jake's in there somewhere, I believe. Let's go. Hey boys.
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He's in his car and now he's walking to his house. This is unnecessary. We don't need to see all of this. You can just, I'm still gonna be here.
All right. So Bart, I wanted to call in cause I wanted to talk to you about the regular season not mattering and you pretty much started off with that. Absolutely sucks that that's the case, but does it not justify us all being pissed off in the regular season for the way that they were playing because that's how they are playing in the playoffs. So it does matter. Well, it's hard to say that cause Giannis hasn't played.
Okay, yeah. But no, there's people that had concerns about certain things, whether it's Doc Rivers related or before that or effort or defense or closing out on threes which they never did one time, I don't think all night. So there's certain things that people saw in the regular season that were worried about the playoffs.
And yeah, I would say that anybody's justified to feel however they thought. The reason that I wasn't getting caught up in it is because ultimately I don't think any of the results matter. I knew coming in, they weren't going to like, they, I didn't think they were the favorite. I didn't think we had two months of Bucks basketball to watch I saw the same stuff everybody else does. I just figured, okay, well, let's, you know it's the playoffs. We'll see what it looks like in the playoffs. I don't know what the effort was.
I don't know what the intensity was. I want to see it in the playoffs before I make those kinds of decisions. Cause they're two very different sports. I think they're almost like not even the same game. And for the most part, the things you see in the regular season do carry over.
And then I would have just been, so whatever. It's just, you know, it's just that the regular season though, like every night that we suffered and we're in agony and pain, it's like, well then now we're going to play off series where Giannis doesn't even play so just, and then, and then because this keeps happening where these guys get hurt, this keeps happening. Now we're going to get back now to start next year's regular season. What's the point? Like, I'm sorry, I'm not getting, I'll go to games. You know, all we want to go, but sure. But what is the point?
What is the point of caring? I use the video game analogy all the time. Yeah. You can't, you can't play Donkey Kong. You don't want to go all, you don't want to go all the way back.
That's why I thank God for checkpoints and saving the game. You're not going to like, it's just so stupid. Anyway.
I think Bart's having a moment right now where Bart's coming to terms, right Jake? Well, really what's the point of being a sports fan, right? If you really think about it, it's like, it's like buying a kitten or a puppy. It's like, I'm going to buy this thing that I'm going to grow to love and it's going to die before I die. And I'm going to have to deal with that. Like that's what being a sports fan is.
Well, what's happening is we're in this situation where the expectations are so high and the real like action, the real stuff that matters. It doesn't, like, it doesn't matter if they win 49 games. It doesn't matter if they win 59 games.
None of that, none of that shit matters. What matters is how they do in the playoffs, which we know we're going to get in, but then it doesn't, and it doesn't really matter like what seed we are. It does not matter what seed the Bucks are. It doesn't matter what seed a lot of these teams are. I mean, it kind of matters this year. I think seeding matters. Seeding matters. Fine, we can argue about that.
Well, we don't need to, we're all sitting here at our misery, right? We would have lost to the Heat. We would have lost to the, who's seven?
You would have lost to the Sixers probably. But I think if you look at the regular season. It's not the same team. It's not the same team. I know. I did not watch the Bucks tonight.
I do want to point out though that. This sucked ass tonight, man. Even though it's not the same team, you don't have Giannis, you don't have Dame. That's still a team that was going to give you problems because of the style that they play, because of their athleticism. And that's what the Bucks have struggled with all year for people that have watched the regular season. So yeah, it's, again, I don't necessarily say that, you know, this series goes the same way, but I think they do still have a lot of the same struggles with Indiana, with a fully healthy team. Papa Deli says what puts them over the edge is that a healthy Bucks team would demolish the spacers team in four games. Disagree. I'm not going to say sweep, but I agree we would beat them. I think that.
I struggled so much with this. I think they would have beat them, but I think it would have been a six or a seven game series. Well, yeah, I don't think any of us thought the Bucks were going to win the finals. Maybe we did like in the summer. And then I don't think we did like when the playoffs started. I think within the first like three months of the season that we knew that they weren't going to win the finals.
Well, I'll say this. They kind of edged us at different points of the season where they'd go on many win streaks and they'd look phenomenal. And then literally, you know, when they're in the middle of this phenomenal run, then they look like this is the first time they've ever played basketball together again. So, you know, they blue balls us all season long.
And this is an interesting thing because like, I don't know, a year ago we were having a similar conversation and Bart, you got kind of mad at me because I brought up Ron Wolf calling the Packers in the nineties, a fart in the wind. And I think, again, this is just further proving that that might be what we have with our Bucks here. I'm glad we got our title, but if they run it back. I don't like that. I mean, I don't, the Raptors are more like that.
I think we're the same. Bucks are the, yeah. But the Bucks are always like, this is a competitive. This is like bites of the apple. Although they got the apple one time. Okay, so no, Bart, what you're trying to do is relate this to what the Brewers are doing. What you should relate it to is what Aaron Rodgers did. Won one fucking Superbowl, you got hot and you had a window for a long time and you didn't get shit done in it. Yeah.
Not the Brewers who, God bless them, are, you know, went four years out of six to the playoffs, which is what ever their franchise history was in getting to it. So Giannis has been hurt, like, Roger's playing games. Too fucking bad.
Well, too fucking bad. Everybody gets injured. This is Giannis, this is the team we built. Okay, yeah, but you also got other guys around him. So what are we disagreeing about? We're agreeing in our misery.
We're not disagreeing. I do want to point out one thing that a lot of people are gonna just by default go to the injury excuse, but it's a lot more than just that. The Bucks have been the oldest team in the league for like five years straight. And I said it even kind of, I think before they won the title, that eventually when you're the worst drafting team in the league, and then either you draft shit players or you just trade away all your picks, eventually you have to pay the Pied Piper on that. And I think that's what we're seeing because every other team seems to be able to develop seven, eight, nine guys that are late first round picks, second round picks, and the Bucks just have not done it.
And it's like, they don't even try to do it. Oh yeah, I mean, the roster construction around like these guys isn't great. And we're starting to see, you know, green got in, but like Ajax and they get in because of injuries. So it still seems like it's the same kind of shit that happened with Bud.
And you can't overcome the shit. And then you get these guys that are like relatively consistent for you, like Beasley, then he got kind of bad. And the other thing like that John Horst does that needs to be investigated is how, when he acquires these guys, they never do anything. What's the point of Gallinari who got run tonight? What's the point of Jake Crowder?
What's the point of, help me out here in the past. What's his name? Paugussal. Yeah, Paugussal, but what's the other one? Mirotic. Mirotic. What's the point of Paugussal?
What's the point of any of this? You get these guys in here, they're, I mean, you're just, they're not good. Well, Horst, it seems like he is really capable of making the big move.
And also in the case of Dame, like making the big move for like relatively really, really good value. But then the fringe moves, it's like he just strikes out on three pitches every single time. Yeah. He, Homer's in the big games. He's like- He's Adamus.
Yeah, I was just going to say that. That's an old Winkler Show poll. Yeah, Adamus is doing the same- One run, Homer, he's doing no good. How many runs are scored in this Brewers Yankees series?
150? It was an exciting series to go to, I'm sure. Tough weekend to be a Packer fan, not because of the draft, which I'll talk about more this week, but you had two beat writers, one in Matt Schneiderman mocking the Brewers as a Yankees fan, and then another in Ryan Wood, who is a Pacers fan.
So it's like, oh my goodness, you guys. Schneiderman sucks. Can I get your draft take, Bart?
You didn't say it, I said it. Schneiderman sucks. Fuck that guy. Can I get your draft take, Bart? Cause I have one. I mean, I like the draft.
I, so I'll say this. I get so in the moment during the draft, and then afterwards, I always just like, Gudekunst is a god and I can't like go against him, but I will say this. Maybe, this front office might view the Packers differently than we as the fans do. Like maybe they saw this season as more of an anomaly because I thought with all the draft picks they had, that this would be the perfect year to kind of strike and go up and get those blue chippers. And after you see what they did, it was really like, okay, this was just a complete depth draft all the way.
Like they didn't really get that. I mean, I guess, Gudekunst is the same way he drafts every year. I don't know. I'd like, I think I just, it was weird to me that on the surface, this is the least excited I've been about a Gudekunst. You want to trade up six picks and get Dallas Turner and then. No, I guess I just, I expected a little bit more aggressiveness given the amount of picks. And then naturally, the people that really get into the drafts, you have your opinions and thoughts on where guys are picked.
I thought that, you know, maybe it was a slight reach on some guys, but ultimately none of us know shit. So we'll see what happens. Brett says, how are people mad at Doc? Be mad at John Horace for not picking one player quality in almost every draft. Good echo of there. What Jake was saying.
Yeah, I don't, I think Doc is gonna, there's a lot of people that when Doc was hired, they're gonna start to give you the, I told you so. And it is just, it's so crazy when something happens that we all see and then we just choose not to talk about it. Like Joel Embiid is dirty. Joel Embiid is injuring guys. And everybody is just like, that's just, we're not gonna bring it up.
And then in this. Can we talk about that? In this Bucks series, the Bucks are hurt and they will get talked about. This will get talked about as another Doc Rivers choke job, which it's just like Doc's the 15th guy or thing I'm blaming. I'm not even thinking about Doc. I'm thinking about we're hurt.
And then, okay. So that doesn't mean that they couldn't win. I'm sure maybe they could win. The closeout situation was bad on threes. You know, Miles Turner at some point, hey, okay, maybe he's shooting threes and making them go get them. Halliburton's open on like every single shot. Bobby Portis, while I agree that I think it was bullshit that he got it.
Everybody wants it to be 90s basketball, whatever they think that means. And then you're giving up two tees in the first four minutes and then injecting Bobby Portis, dumb. But then also Bobby, he's got to know, you know, you do got to know, you can't not, they need you.
Okay. They, they, we're already sportsing in here, man. Bobby's gotta be better in that moment. Perfect example of Indiana being in their heads all season long.
Rent free. Yeah. And then, so that maybe, you know, maybe that's where the regular season came into it. Cause the Pacers, I'm telling you, they do not act like this towards anyone else, but we're the one team that they were able to get. We're the one kid on the playground that they're a little bit bigger than. So everybody's bullying them and the Knicks will destroy them, but everyone's bullying them.
But then you find the one guy you can bully and you take out all your aggression that you're getting and you put it into one and they found, they found a mark. They found us. And they still have Giannis' ball too. They have Giannis' ball. You know that they probably travel with that thing and it's like a trophy and they all laugh at it. They probably wrote penises on it.
Bring it on the plane. Yeah. Yeah.
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Adidas. Nathan, I'm worried we'll be stuck with this roster. How do you shed Brooke and Bobby without any sort of valuable return? So glad that Nathan brought this up. I just need to point out, Bucks fans, the power of nostalgia is so like real.
I was on Rami and Drew's show yesterday and everybody's just like fired up and angry. And it's like, we need wholesale changes to this roster. Although I'm not trading Chris. I'm not trading Giannis. I'm not trading Dame. What do you expect is going to happen if you aren't willing to trade anyone other than the guys that everybody knows suck? Like they're just gonna pull some miracle moves.
Like it's this weird thing that just this loyalty that they can't get out of their heads. And I don't want to trade at this point. But now all these guys are 30. This is an old team. Everybody's 30. Giannis, Giannis and Atakubo is 30 years old. Well, it's over.
Like the window is closed. I think, I hope people realize that. Jerry Seinfeld turns 70 tomorrow. Get the fuck out of here.
No way. 70. Jerry. Jerry Seinfeld is 70. I saw him at the Riverside couple years ago.
No way that motherfucker turned 70. God bless him. He's one of those Hollywood elites with the fetus blood. That's how you do it, man. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Gotta have the baby blood for sure. Jesus.
Finally, something me and Kone Roller agree on. Neil says he loves Middleton and he loves Bobby. He's an enforcer.
You can't turn that off at will. As far as Bobby, he is under contract next year. And then the Bucks always do these two year and then a player option.
So essentially two years. 12 million next year, 13 million the year after on a player option. He's 29.
When that was signed, we were all creaming about that. Well, that's an expiring contract. Bobby's not gonna take that player option. He'll get a lot more on the open market. Look at his numbers. Look at his numbers and look at what free agents get. You say it and then look at last year's free agency and compare it to Bobby's numbers.
He will get more than that, trust me. Not disagreeing with you. I don't think he should though. So you guys don't think Bobby Portis is a good player is what you're saying? No, no. So you're saying he's overpaid?
I think he's really good at like seventh guy. Okay. Careful what you wish for. No, I'm not wishing for it. I'm not coming here and asking to trade Bobby. No, you know what it is with Bobby?
And I take this, like, I get really mad about this during the season. He's the scapegoat for this team, no doubt about it because nobody wants to look at what the real problems were with this team. So it's like, who's someone significant we can blame that's not Giannis, that's not Chris? Bobby's good. But he's also bad. Bobby's when he's good, he's good when he's bad, he's bad.
No, he's held to a difference. It's bizarre. He's a sixth man and he's an elite sixth man. But if he has a bad game, like especially Twitter which is obviously a toxic place, Buck's Twitter treats it like he should be an all NBA guy every single night.
Like if you watch a Buck's game this year when Bobby misses a jump shot, just immediately go to Twitter and it's fucking crazy. He's mad. He's mad as shit.
I agree. Ben, good to see Ben again. What's up, bro? Austin, hot take, Jake, Ben. Talk to me, Ben. You're the deer. I agree with Jake.
I think Bobby does demand a lot in the open market. Don't do it, Bart. I'm gonna rip my playoffs.
Dude, straight up rip it. Break the curse, man. They are gonna be away towels again for game five.
Break the curse. How cheap are those tickets gonna be? Is Indiana gonna invade us like New York did to Philly today? Hope not. Bart, that's a cleanup reg at this point. You can take that upstairs. Jake. Damn it.
I'm trying to be a little more mature. I think the window is closing though too. I think I'm afraid that tonight might be the window, the window might be closed.
The window is closed? I mean, Dame's not coming back. Bobby's gone. Why isn't Dame coming back?
Chris is over the hill. Why is everyone renting Dame out of here? His contract is too big.
We can't go. They already got him on contract though. You can't get rid of Dame if you've never had a playoff game with Dame and Giannis together. And I think the reason Dame is probably back is because of that contract. Yeah, they already got him on contract.
I don't know. I don't see him dealing with the team at all. I love Dame, but I don't know how it stays.
I'll do anything if I'm John Horst. But the core is I wanna know what I can do with Giannis and Dame. Now, if I have to get rid of Chris, that will be awful.
I love Chris, but I'm doing everything. Giannis and Dame is my non. I brought Dame in for a reason and I didn't get to see that. Now again, are we doing a eulogy? Are they gonna come back from down three one?
We don't know. Yeah, I mean, we need everybody back. Dame would have to come back. Giannis would have to come back. I think there's gonna have to be an uncomfortable conversation this off season where you go to Giannis and you say, look, we need to get younger. We need to get more athletic. Are you willing to stick around for this?
And you show the guy the respect that if he wants to move on, it might be time. He's 30, he's a player who is so reliant on athleticism. The injuries are starting to pile up. His game is gonna start to wane as the athleticism goes. He only probably has three, four years of like peak Giannis and in that peak area, I mean, he might've already peaked. He probably already has peaked. So I would never want to trade Giannis, but I would at least give him the respect and at least lay all the cards on the table and be like, this is it.
What do you think? What is the, get the word trade and get the word Giannis and put a big gap in there and then extend it more. I want the gap between Giannis and the word trade so far away that it actually starts coming back around.
Don't be stupid. What are the options for next year then? Dave and Giannis with nobody, no support, no cast of characters. You don't have support now. That's the problem.
You don't have shit now. You got Brooke, Bobby and Chris. Yeah, well they suck. I mean, and this is kind of my point.
This is kind of my point. I think everybody knows that they need a different roster, but they don't want to see what it's gonna take. Cole got us. Cole's the Pacers fan from last week. Cole, what's up Cole? What's up Cole, let's go boy. I kind of like Cole, I'm not gonna lie. Cole grew up.
Subscribe this month. It's Cole. It's Cole. Cole, like dude, even after the Pacers win, like stick around, man. Like please just become a member of this extended universe.
You'll love it. Winkler-verse. The Winkler-verse. Now we're the extended Winkler-verse because we're not the top dogs anymore. No.
Never been. Only in Bart's heart. Bart, can I just sidetrack for no reason for a sec? That Mr. Positive, when he calls in to your show, one of my favorite callers. For no reason, he'll just like slip in weird shit that'll throw you and Shep way off. He's a spares up to my friend, Karen McDougall in the Trump trial.
Yeah, it was so good. And he hangs up. I laughed my ass off at that.
And you were like, I don't know, I got to go to a break. On brand. Aaron says, Horst is awful. He lucked into us winning a championship, put him in a good position.
He's a reactionist. Look at the Crowder trade. Di Vincenzo for Serge Ibaka. I didn't mention that one. No, you can't bring that. You can't put that on him. Sure I can. I know.
No, you cannot. You cannot put that on him. It's been what, three or four years? You can say, hey, they should've got something- But Serge Ibaka sucked.
What do you do? Dante sucked. He did a Cook video. When Dante was traded, he was shooting like 27% from the field with us. They already re-signed the game. Hey, GM's got to recognize what you're getting and what the potential is. But they tried to give him a contract extension. Did Dante go to Sacramento first?
Grayson Allen re-signed. He's been to Golden State. He's been to Sacramento.
He's been to New York. Exactly. Yeah. Four teams gave up on him. Guy was demanding too much money for what he was good at for. Yeah, I'm not putting that one on Horse. It's not Horse's fault that he sucked. Yeah, he sucked. Eduardo says, regular season matters in terms that you use it to see your flaws, but Bucks never get better. Coaches and Horse have been bad for years.
Yeah, it's really bad. I don't fault Doc. He tried to talk them out of this, but he's a professional bag getter. Even when he doesn't want it, it's like, oh, take the bag.
It's like, all right. You think he cares? Doc Rivers is sleeping better than anybody on earth.
He does not care about any of this. Ryan says, Indiana might be the worst state. The I-80 drive is the worst. Indiana has KFC buffets, buffets.
That sounds awesome. What is he talking about? Fried chicken, let's go. That's all facts. I'm just scrolling through the comments.
There's a lot of sidetrack. The cope is in vogue tonight, huh? We are coping.
Yeah. At least we can admit it. What's wrong with a fan base coping?
Yeah, that's fine. We lose and we're upset and we shit talk the other team and the other team says, cope. Well, what the fuck you want us to do?
Go to bed? Yeah, like at least we admit it. The thing that we love is hurting us. If you're a Chicago Bears fan, that's literally your entire life.
That's all you've had. Indiana is low key Wyoming, Mississippi with a bit more density. Hey, Gary is a fine town.
It is Mississippi. Gary is like- Gary, Indiana sucks so much ass. I've never driven into a town and been like- Why do you still live here? This town is ugly. This is an ugly town.
If there's ever a movie about the apocalypse, every movie about the apocalypse should just be shot in Gary, Indiana. It's like a 10 minute bridge with smoke stacks the whole time. You gotta hold your breath. God.
All right, who's your goon? Says y'all big mad loving it. See, the thing is, and this is something that we know as Packer fans is that when like we cope and you beat us and you come in here and you celebrate, you will be getting this too. Like you're not winning the title. Right. You will lose and you will play a team that is probably better, but definitely more healthy and they will make you sad. Tyrese Halliburton's face that looks like he's already mid tier will actually cry more. Yeah.
Can I address who's your goon there? Like we are definitely big man in coping, but it's so on brand for a Pacers fan to not realize it has nothing to do with you. Like you just happen to be the team.
Like we're not gonna think about you tomorrow, next year. Pacer fans haven't had this kind of success in a while and what they're excited, like they are acting like, so my kid gets on his scooter and he likes me to race him. And he likes when I get in the lead and then I go like, yeah, cause then he likes to pass me and it's fun. But if what the Pacers are doing are basically once the kid gets close to me, I kick him over and then yell in his face, fuck you bitch and then win the race. That's what they're doing. You are a dad, not our dads, but you are a dad beating a son and not letting him win and then cocking off about it.
Yeah. You're a dad and you get in a competitive game. Like we played competitive games growing up and like, you know, as the dad, you're like, come on son, next time you've got to be like, I want to see my son beat me. I'll try my hardest, but I want to see my son beat me.
You don't be the dad and then they're like, fuck you, you worthless piece of shit. Well, and congrats. You pulled away late against the G league team. Good for you.
And I can say that I, as a fan of any of my teams have never sought out a podcast that was live of another team to like jump on. So we can cope, but you just do whatever you're doing. This is so fucking miserable. I don't care.
This is so fucking miserable watching this fucking series. God damn it. Thanks for doing a lot. Haven't you missed this? Like, be honest, you know? Yeah, well I'm saying thanks for doing a lot.
I'm not gonna win this fucking week. You can scroll, let me, let me go look through my, let me, how long have I been doing this? Two years, sort of. Yeah, when did, 2022? I don't know, what year is it? 24.
Let's look at my YouTube feed and see all the live shows where we really got together about it. Where's the Packer one? Packers lose to San Francisco. Heat game five. Yeah, heat game five. Oh, heat game five was a good one.
Yeah, I got a Brewer one here. Fantastic. What a, maybe this is the curse. No, not even close. The Winkler versus the curse.
What is the show? The Winkler curse. Celebrated, beating the Cowboys.
Yes, I don't even care. That was one of the greatest, not important games. Is that, is that the only live show that was a real like celebration that wasn't like this?
God damn it. I mean, Q was pretty fired up when they won game one. Yeah, game one, we did game one.
We did a game one pod. That was Q's championship this year. All right, I'm pissed at Q too, by the way, for getting me to not give a shit and be like, oh, be positive about it. Hoosier Goon says, y'all having a panel to cry about?
Why is there, there's always one guy, he's always new. Like, if I am a, Hoosier Goon, if I am a fan, I might come back and watch this kind of shit later. I'm certainly like with my people right now, celebrate. I'm talking to other Pacer fans right now.
I don't, I don't know what your deal is. That's weird. Yeah, if we won, I would not go to a Pacers podcast and start trolling the Pacers. I would get with my boys and I would celebrate the win. That's weird. More Indiana trashing.
Indiana was given a life health and inclusion score of 113 out of 350 points, which is equivalent of a D minus. See, that is prime coping and I love it. Like if you were ever a member of the Real GM Bucks message board, there was this amazing feud between Bucks fans and Toronto Raptors fans that ultimately would like devolve into the two fan bases showing pictures of the respective skylines of Toronto and Milwaukee and arguing about which city had a better skyline. That's like the best kind of cope when it just gets so far away from reality.
They're not reality, but the game. Oh, Cole, Cole, Cole, you're, Cole, Cole, you're different. Yeah, Cole's the man.
Well, we like you. Yeah, Cole. Yeah, Cole, Cole, you're different. Yeah, you're immune. That's different.
Yeah, yeah. We want Cole to stay around. No, no, you're, you're different. We, you humbled us, we needed that.
We were glad you were here. Invite Cole to the Brewers game this year. Yeah, Cole. Yeah, you're different. Yeah, Cole's different. Yeah.
All right, I don't have much else to say. This was stupid, they were hurt. I'm with Austin, I'm pissed that Q didn't show up tonight.
Take your medicine. Q does the rounds. I think he does a Sparky show and then he'll probably go on Rommy's and then. There's too, there's too many shows now.
What do they have? There's other shows? There's shows all over the place. What are you talking about, Bart? They're all bad imitations, including mine. Yeah, where was your show? I thought you did a show. No, no, no, you, I said it on my first one.
If Bart is ever live, we don't go up against Bart, no matter what. Like that's, come on. I have respect. We can go on after, go, start one after. Yeah, Jake, you want to just sit and talk? You want to sit and talk? Me and Austin. Skylines, we can talk about Skylines. We can talk about Skylines. No, this is.
No, I like this, where the best pizza restaurant is. Here's kind of what I'm thinking from Logan. Logan says, more just mad, the whole season's now pointless due to all the injuries a year wasted.
And that, that I think is what it is. It's like, this is a wasted year. Unless a miraculous comeback. I mainly agree it was a wasted season, but I'm not going to put it all on the injuries.
That's, that's such a cop out. I think it's a wasted year from a coaching standpoint too. Like now we got to bring in a new coach next year and hope that that works out. You think Doc's gone too? You got rid of Doc and Dame? Well, I don't want to get rid of Dame. I'm just being realistic that I think he's going to want to trade. And I don't think Doc comes back. Ben, okay, so then what do you think we do? Because then they're going to be paying three coaches who ain't working there. So do you promote smoking Joe Prunty? I mean, if you bring Doc back, hopefully it's better.
But I mean, it's rough. There's been a, I don't like Doc that much. I think that he's never really won anything. I don't feel like a lot of love from us because he's a Marquette grad.
I don't know. He rode the backs of that first super team. Like I think a lot of guys could have won a title with that team. I would agree. I'm going to delete this. If they do come back, I'm going to get, I'm going to delete this video.
I think you'll be safe Bart. Just keep this one up for the clicks. Okay. You know, it gets a lot of clicks. Is my Craig Council won. Which one? We found out live that he was going to go to the Cubs.
Oh, I remember that day. Like, I think it's a lot of views still. A lot of hot takes.
It spikes when I'm like, the what? The Cubs? Oh, Cubs fans. Cubs fans, like every time they lose, it jumps up. Because to cope for them, if they lose a game, they come to my video and watch me find out Council's the manager.
I'm sure it doesn't do that when they win, too. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
They're just like, yeah, fuck this guy. So anything else, guys? Did the Brewers win today? No. No.
No, it was bad. I don't know. Yankees came in and took two of three. Yankees spankied. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Yankees spankied. Fuck, fuck the Yankees. What are we thinking tickets are gonna cost on Tuesday? Fucking free? If it's 20 bucks, I mean, I'll go for $60. I might go just for the first quarter and then drive to work. Hey, how about that's the second Winklerverse get together. It'll be cheaper than a Brewers game. Bart can only go for the first quarter before he's gotta go host a show.
Oh, damn, yeah. If it's on NBA TV, I might as well go because I can't watch it. Do you guys not have the Ballys? You don't have Bally? I had, well, I was sharing it with another person and it was just crap.
Like half the time it would work, half the time it wouldn't. So they stopped paying for it. And I've been streaming on YouTube TV off my mother-in-law's and now our location is wrong and it won't use our wifi. So long story short, I can't watch it. Yeah, Bally's like makes up problems to get you to not stream it. Yeah. They get correct TV, I got it. I should be able to stream every time. Then it makes you set up a separate account.
Then somehow you like gotta pay them eight bucks a month. Fuck no. Yeah. Bally's gone though, right? It will be.
It will be. What I feel bad for is whoever is in charge of their like Twitter account because they just get dragged every night. I can only imagine.
And some really mean stuff. Yeah. They went bankrupt, I think, but.
Yeah, after this year it's over. Yeah. Well, and you know what's weird about Bally's is like, when did they become a network? I remember them having like crappy commercial gyms. Wasn't that their thing?
Yeah, gyms in the nineties. It used to be, they like bought over a different one that was it Fox, not Fox Sports. It was a Fox Sports one. Yeah. It was something FS one. FS one, yeah. Yeah. Okay. They bought something else out.
It used to be Midwest sports channel. And yeah, there you go. That's what I was thinking. Yeah.
But they fucking, yeah, they suck. But just what a weird, like, you know, transition. That'd be like, if, you know, the, you know, the bubble gum big league chew, if all of a sudden they were producing like, you know, cleats for major league baseball players, like, yeah, you're in the same universe, but like just weird grape flavor was elite by the way you put the whole wad there. Didn't do it. No. Yeah. So is, so is chewing tobacco.
So what do I tell my kid about this? You burn it. No. You already have my thoughts, Bart, on what to do with it.
Don't put it by your mouth. Oh, all right. Wait, do you got a deck of cards to open? No.
Are you doing it on veiling? I don't have any cards anymore. Darn it.
I, yeah, I either got rid of them or opened them all. Damn. Oh, I got a question for you, Bart. You didn't answer on Twitter. Who were, like, be honest, more nervous to interview Barack Obama or Cody Rhodes? Oh, when I interviewed Obama, I was 21 years old and it was live. Cody, I just did on a, I mean, how do you, I don't know. How did I, how did I not know that you interviewed Obama?
Like, that is pretty fucking crazy, dude. He was a senator at the time. He wasn't president yet.
Yeah, but he was like the nominee at that point, wasn't he? You know what I did? I don't, I don't want to be partisan. No, let's go. Do it. No, I, what I made him do, what you're not supposed to do, I got his autograph. Oh. And I had him sign the list of questions that I was going to ask. Here's my press pass. Oh, there you go.
That's pretty cool. You probably shouldn't show that on, someone might break into your house. For Barack Obama's autograph? You're going to have a burning- They'd rather have this fucking painting. You'd rather have this.
Bart, what's your favorite Bradley Center memory? Bucks and six, your friend and off the rails bobbleheads. Yeah, both of them are at risk now. This is why you want to steal. Well, I'm just worried where you live, Bart, in that neighborhood- You're going to steal anything in this house. It's just fucking planters peanuts from here.
Hell yeah, let's go. Look at this. Given where your neighborhood is, I'm afraid you're going to have like a burning cross in your front yard now. Oh, no. Here's a question I had for Barack Obama. What in this country needs to be changed? See, you missed your calling, my friend.
These are the hard-hitting questions that need to be asked these days, but everybody's afraid to ask them. People like your freshness, but likely be attacked on experience issue? Respond?
Well, I wrote shorthand. This is- Barack Obama signed a piece of paper that says, what in this country needs to be changed? I like freshness. We like your freshness. You should be Meet the Press host, not the Bart Winkler Show host. You smell like Irish Spring.
Yeah, freshness. What in this country needs to be changed? Well, look, everything- It kind of, it reminds me of when the, do you remember it was like Miss America and Wayne Brady asked like, why can't people read maps? That was like one of her responses.
You want me to sign this piece of paper that has questions for me that are horrible? Was he a cool dude? What I think is the most telling is he's not much taller than me. He's like a normal height guy, right? Like six foot tall or so.
He's six feet. I mean, I enjoyed talking to him for five minutes. I met Norm McDonald.
I didn't realize he was like six, five. I also talked to Al Franken once. What's your favorite Al Franken memory? He talked to me. Who did I talk to that run? I talked to, I never got to talk to McCain, but I talked to Huckabee. Jesse Ventura. John Edwards. Remember him? John Edwards. Do you think you could get Jesse Ventura on the national show? If you can, it will be gold.
Like do whatever you can to get that man on. So no pack of card, but I did show you my memory. Your Barry autograph. That was cool. Yeah.
Here's a sweet ass dartboard, Prince of Wales. What's that? Soccer club? I was gonna say I was assuming soccer. I thought you were crazy for a second. I was like, what am I looking at? That's fucking dartboard.
That looks like it came out of a pub for sure. Are you selling that? Are you buying it? No, he's got the show now.
I'll give you a 50 spot. He's got the show. I know, I need a dartboard down here. In case I ever do my basement.
If Bart didn't get the show, the next Winklerverse get together would have just been a garage sale. An auction. Here's the shit I gotta sell. Trying to save my mortgage, man. Hey, that's my best buddy right there.
This is a long con just to build up some subscribers and then sell off my shit. Does it feel bad that your basement isn't finished? Yeah.
I don't know, the pegboard is versatile though. Here's a sweet NFL pin collection. Ooh, that is sweet. I have the plastic helmets that came out of the vending machine. I got everyone that's ever been.
That's the only good thing I have. Bart, is that 28 teams? Ben, that is awesome. Five, 10, 14, yep, 28. My dad used to make me dust them.
I had those as a kid and for every Monday night or Thursday night or Sunday night game, I put the two helmets of the teams that were playing hell yeah, man. That's awesome. All right, I'm done coping. All right. All right.
We love you, Cole. This guy says, show us your state quarter book now. His name is idiot, too.
First Facebook marketplace live ever. That's a good one. All right, next item, item 574. It's a battery barn bag. Oh, mystery bag. Yeah, blind bag. What's that show with all the antiques?
This is like, yeah, just a warped version of that. Who wants a blind bag for 10? Anything could be in here. I'll buy that dartboard. I don't want whatever's in that bag.
It's my wife's dolls as a kid. Was that like a new kid? Who, wait, wait, wait, go back. Who was that?
Glad I didn't invest in that. Was that like a new kids on the block doll? That didn't look like Ken. Does this look like Cody Rhodes? He looks like a heel, so yes. Mama. This shit should not be available online.
What am I doing? How long until Cody Rhodes is a heel? I don't think they're gonna do it. I don't have a ton of faith in him as a baby face. Ah, he's doing just fine.
Well, yeah, for now, but I think that's gonna grow old. All right, I got him. Thank you for coming and hanging.
Coping, yeah. Bartik Rhodes, there it is. Bartik Rhodes show.
Love the show. Bye, guys. Bye, guys.
Bucks Lost and I showed you a bunch of my shit on the Dan Cheney YouTube stream. Have a great night. See ya. Peace. How big's, maybe it's not big. I need it done, though. Anybody know a contractor? All right, see ya.
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