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Buy or Sell with Evan Heffelfinger, Packers extend Jordan Love

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Buy or Sell with Evan Heffelfinger, Packers extend Jordan Love

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May 3, 2023 6:00 am

The Packers' decision to trade Aaron Rodgers and the implications for Jordan Love's future, the Bucks' chances of winning a title with Giannis Antetokounmpo, and the Brewers' prospects for success in the next decade are discussed.

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Good morning, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. The Bart Winkler Show, May 3rd. Heavy. On the Evan Heffelfinger today, former 1250 man, we caught up a little bit.

During the draft night. He's going to be here. Used to do the midday show primarily. And he is going to be doing a little buy or sell. in honor of tribute.

And I surprise them with it.

So that'll be exciting to get into in a little bit. Plus, I'm going to introduce you to Dan Shaney. I've talked about Dan Shaney. Dan Shaney Insurance, Dan Shaney.com. Dan Shaney brings you the.

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Well, let's talk to him. Let's get to know him a little bit. That's coming up later in the show, and some voicemails here to start things off. The big news is that Jordan Love is going to remain a Packer. They trade Aaron Rodgers, and then all of a sudden we're like, oh, that 50 option we keep talking about.

Are they going to do that? And then Brian Goudekins goes: Well, it's a lot of money for a guy who hasn't played. Oh, well, you maybe should have thought of that. Earlier. There started to be some concern if they were gonna offer this guy That fifth year.

Which is crazy. This is a guy you drafted in the first round. You traded up to get, you traded Rodgers. And then to not offer him a fifth year would have been wild.

Now, what was going to happen? is they were going to Essentially, he was under contract this year for cheap, 1.3 or something. And then they would guarantee the fifth year. Which Based on the averages and the math, it turns out to be about $20 million.

So they give them $1 million this year, $20 million next year. What they did instead. was they signed him through next year. With a different reworked contract.

So they gave him a one-year extension with $13.5 million guaranteed. It can be worth up to $22.5 million. It spreads the cap out a little bit and puts more money in Jordan Love's pocket now.

So I think it was, you know, you're seeing a lot of good deal for both sides. You know, because if Jordan Love goes out there and sucks. Packers are going to be in some trouble. But if he goes out there and he's good, then the Packers still have another year they can rework.

some sort of a longer deal. What they don't want to have happen is decline it. Like, if Jordan loves amazing, or if there's no other option, I think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback. Not an elite quarterback, but a good quarterback. But the Giants, what they realized was they did not pick up the fifth year on Daniel Jones because they thought, oh, you know, we're not sure about him.

Then he had a good year. And then they're like, oh, now we have to sign him. And then they were stuck signing him to a $50 million, $40 million deal per year.

Well, the Packers may give Jordan Love that money at some point. But it wouldn't be until Later. I just am glad that this isn't like a thing because for a while it seemed like they moved on from Rogers and then they have Jordan Love, and then Goody's saying this stuff, and it's, you know, good fodder for a day, but. Everything Everything's settled in and everything should be. Just fine.

No harm, no foul on that one. I do mention at some point with Evan, we taped it earlier in the week, and I said, oh, yeah, they'll pick up his fifth-year option. It's already picked up. You know, trying to talk in the future. And then I was starting to get a little concerned that that wasn't going to happen for some dumb reason, but it did.

So that is. All well and good. Got some Carl's Place voicemails: 402-915-BART, Carl. Of Carl's place. Says hello.

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Got a couple of voicemails. This one from a number I'm not quite familiar with. Go heat, bitch. You know what? I should probably.

Delete that one right now, and I just did. All right, here's teacher Tom to talk to Little Packers. Hi, this is Teacher Tom calling Monday evening. And I am excited for the upcoming Pakus football season. It might be bad.

Like I'm not excited 'cause I'm expecting a Super Bowl run. Could be five and twelve, it could be twelve and five, who knows? I'm excited for the offense. Um, what's going to happen with all the young guys? I see Doherty wrote the newspaper today you know, there there will probably be a lot of mistakes and we'll use gamblers.

because of dumb mistakes between love The receiver is a data. But I'm the other hand. Yeah, can the unknown? What's going to happen? Also Excited about the defense to see do they finally live up to the billing.

in the Visa Carp five defense, we expected it a year ago. We're probably not. Yeah. Maybe they'll put it on the all together this year with all those Realm graph picks. And also kind of going back to what Once it said in January and I all take it.

Yeah. I would be excited to see. Vestagia gets a promotion to become head coach. To see you a floor be cub. your office the coordinator.

And then uh the extra step of And Sterovich goes back to being The online codes. And I would be excited to see that happen too, although And obviously it won't, but I think that would be the perfect scenario. in Green Bay. along with firing the defensive coordinators green and stuff like that.

So have a good day.

Okay. Oh, see you, Tom. I don't remember saying that. I'm not saying I didn't. I just don't remember.

It was it was probably after a Packer game. It was probably after the Lions game. That's probably I probably didn't remember it. I'm excited because this is like. Like, I think you got to take the approach, and you know, they could still be good.

And I don't think winning the NFC North is out of the question, but. We're going to watch a team grow. You know, this should be like how we viewed when Fielder and Weeks and Hardy and Hart came up. or when Giannis and Jabari are going to be the future. And then, you know, it shifted a little bit.

Remember when we sang Greg Monroe? Twice.

So I'm just excited to see these guys. Get familiar with each other. The progress made along the way. And I'm someone who's always barking: we need titles, we need championships. But I'm excited, man.

I think this is going to be a fun and healthy year for the Green Bay Packers. Will they win the Super Bowl? I don't think so. But I think we can have a little fun along the way knowing what might be to come. All right, got one from Eric, and then we'll get into.

Uh big nasty half. Here's Eric. Mart, first time long time. Eric, I'm up in Rice Lake now, but I used to live in the Kenosha area. Newer of the podcast, I kind of checked out.

One 1250, unfortunately. Can all you guys you Really happy you're doing your thing. Um Love the community, you bring all the guys on. Toby. You know, Paul, I mean, you even bring on Uh The biggest Aaron Rodgers dick sucker of all time, Mr.

Ryan Horsey. You know, he's good at what he does, but he just has no objectivity with regarding Rodgers. but I'm sure he'll love driving. the two point five hours to see him this year. A couple of things One, I gotta tell you.

Um to this day, I probably twice a month I will listen to Uh Tim Shea's Scrub Adult. And if any of you guys don't know that, just just Google Time Stay Scrub Adobe. 1250. It's around the 20-21-minute mark, and you will not be disappointed. I don't know if you played that for them, but.

Cheers. Tab. rendition and your uh Reaction is just great. I love it. Keep it up.

One other thing I also. I love keep up the keep up the digs at Thrill Michaels. I gotta admit, with my job, I'm in and out of my car. I do listen to him. He does have one of the local stations up here.

I do I prefer you, of course, but I I do listen to him during the day. I usually listen to you and some other podcasts at night. But uh The uh the former commercial that you referred to lately, the new male one. That I agree was like seven or eight months old. He's talking about swimsuit weather and it's the middle of winter.

But uh trying to get rid of that spirit tie around you, huh? What? It was great.

So keep it up. Love the community. Uh I like all You other Bucks fans, we all yeah, it's it We were all hoping May would be Filled with bucks. Nothing but bucks, but uh Yeah, it's not going to happen. But, anyways, keep it up.

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And uh he is back w the other night he was back? You are back. During the draft. You join me. Thanks.

Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, it was fun. That was, I mean, I don't know how much draft talk there was that night, but it was fun. Are we like Before I get into What I'm going to get into with you. The draft, do you like the draft?

Good draft, bad draft? I'm I'm drinking the Kool-Aid a little bit. I like that they got a ton of different weapons and a lot of variety for Jordan Love. I'm surprised that they didn't draft any offensive line. Especially considering The aging Bakhtiari and the overall inefficientness of, if that's a word, of the offensive line last year, but.

I'm I'm excited. I think Goody did well. I think There's going to be a slew of. I think the Packers are going to be. Mike I think they're gonna get a lot of these XFL and USFL guys.

I'm all for that. I think there's going to be like a second mini. Draft where all of a sudden these leagues are going to end, and you're going to see all these random dudes sign with random teams. Because that's, I mean, that's. Because there's two spring leagues and they're going out at the same time.

And it's got to serve some purpose.

So I'm maybe I'm hoping that like whatever the Packers didn't do, they can do this summer.

Well as one of the six fans that have watched uh either of them. I'm all for it. It's not great football, but they're at least still playing competitive games, which could. Help them, I would assume, make a team.

Well, my DC defenders are in the XFL championship game. On the 13th.

So I'm very excited about that. And then I did watch a little bit of the USFL this weekend. What a treat it was. I got to see Pittsburgh versus Philadelphia. from Ford Field.

where there were 19 people Pittsburgh's my team, so It feels great. Have the home fans really show out for that game? They gotta play. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me, they gotta play them. In their homes.

I mean, I get it from like a Financial standpoint, and really it's just TV inventory. But do what Fox did the COVID year: like, have fake fans in the stands or some shit. Yeah, something. Pump in the crowd noise. Evan was a part of our uh Midday show.

on the station for a long time and Did some work with me, but was typically. being bitch boy with the FTPs and Making sure our affiliates Flagship station. Um And I always make fun of you because when they would order lunch, they would never even look you in the eye to ask. Yeah. And I thought To honor your midday experience.

Okay. I thought we would do a segment with you here today. I thought we'd do a little buy or sell. Let's go! Buy or sell.

Oh. Oh yes, get the NFL Films music up. Let's go.

Well, I'm not going to do any music because I don't know. What I'm licensed to use. But. Yes, we're doing buy or sell. I was thinking this show needs a buy or sell.

And then I was thinking, oh wait, we already do. But that's Paul. That's its own thing. That's totally not copying. It's its own thing.

Yeah. And then I was thinking: what could I do with you? Trying to play off your name. You know, half a finger, thumbs up, thumbs down. Then I thought, like, Because they didn't buy you lunch, could we do lunch or crunch?

And then I was thinking, like, I went on, I was just, there was a couple others that I had, and then I thought, fuck it. Buy or sell is what we're doing. We're doing buy or sell. It's all copywritten. No, it's buy or sell.

All right. Buy or sell. Evan Heffelfinger. Question? Number one.

The Bucs winning one title with Giannis would be more inexcusable than the Packers winning only one with Aaron Rodgers. Bye. Or sell. Oh, that's tough. And I'm asking you.

Because the conversation needs to be had. But I don't want to have it. And so you can at least. Start. Oh wow, I get to be the one.

Buy or sell. I think my initial reaction is to sell. I think the NBA Even though we've seen that parity doesn't really exist.

Now we're starting to see a little bit more parody after the 2010s where it was two teams that were running it. It's hard to win in the NBA. Like right now, I just saw something from ESPN that. This year for the first time ever. Every single seed is represented in the second round.

Yeah. You really do need to have a ton of good luck. And We haven't had that. Besides uh twenty twenty one when Giannis decided to say, Yeah, my knee bent backwards, but I can still drop 50 on the Suns. But the Packers, I mean, think about all the players that they had on that team, all the chances that they had.

The Bucs haven't had that many chances. They've gotten embarrassed in a couple of early rounds. The Packers were on the doorstep of winning it all multiple times and just couldn't do it. I don't know how much we can blame Aaron because we know. That he's a little bit egotistical.

He Was pulling some strings behind the scenes, but To me, I think it has to be Rogers not winning more because. He dominated the league for so long and had so many great players. That It's inexcusable to not do better with him.

So, where I look at it, and I've said this, is that Rodgers gets more of a free pass, or less of a free pass than Favre, because Favre came in. When we sucked for so long, even though Favre went to another Super Bowl and lost, no one's ever saying that Favre should have won another. We lump him in. With Rodgers, I think because of the heartbreak of the way they lost. But now the Bucks are kind of stacking up some of that heartbreak, too.

If you look at the Raptors, and if you look, and there's, I mean, there's parallels to McCarthy being Coach Bud. If you look at the Raptors, if you look at... The Celtic series when they lost Middleton, the COVID year where they lost to the Heat, which I thought was a fluke, but apparently not because they beat us the exact same way three years later. And you could argue then that Giannis has a bigger. He's a bigger part of the team because basketball.

There's less players, even though Rodgers is. The quarterback. I think that If the Bucs only get one with Giannis. I'll personally. Be more fine with it.

Than I am with the Packers only getting one. But that's just me personally. I know that there's some that I've talked to that disagree with that. That thinks Giannis needs to be held more accountable, that he should be under the same amount of scrutiny as Rogers. One thing I don't like.

is these comments that he made about failure. Uh Well He they failed. Yeah. I get what he's saying. And especially him, like the way that His back was hurting him so bad.

Like you can tell, that's the reason that he missed so many free throws and jump shots in that last game. It's because he could hardly walk. Back injuries are not fun. I would know. as Roman used to make fun of me for breaking my back in high school.

I Wow. Glad the Kings lost, by the way. Not because the Warriors won, but because of Rami. I'll make sure to tell them that. Uh But fuck, I'll text him right now.

These are shit. The There is some bad luck in play. But you do kind of have to look at it as a failure because. At the very least, a team that's the number one seed should be getting to the second round. They failed.

Like, I feel like you're watching a movie and maybe the plot twist happened too soon. Or, like, it just wasn't. The right time. To say these like comments You say um After the finals loss, you say him after you don't get to the finals in the Eastern Conference finals, and it's a hard-fought series. You don't say it after you lose.

To an eighth seed, which by the way. They were really the seventh seed, but the stem playing tournament. Yeah. So I just didn't like when it was. And now, like.

Every athlete and coach in the world is like Yeah, what he said. You know, every loser on LinkedIn that wakes up, has a cup of coffee, and then writes this paragraph about how the look in their child's eyes. You got to remember that when you're grinding your TPS reports, yeah, and when they're making their employees work 17 hours. a day for eight hours of pay. Yeah.

Or when they're making them come in and. Intern and not even buy him a fucking sandwich. And then get hired and work for $9 an hour for a job that requires a college degree. Not better, not better. Yeah, well, weren't so didn't one of your guys uh Negotiate $10 an hour.

He was supposed to, and I don't think he ever got it. They didn't give it to him? I think they did, like, right as he was about to leave. Because that was a big deal. Yeah.

That was a whole thing. Yeah, producers at the uh fan made nine dollars an hour. Fun fact. With our college degrees. That's You guys should have went on strike.

I've thought about it, but. I mean, who is who? They would have just canned us and got four dudes from Marquette to come and fill in for us.

Well, I could have went with you. We would have appreciated it. Yeah. Oh well. Nine dollars an hour.

I made more lifeguarding 20 years ago. Yeah, I made more. In almost all of the jobs I've worked. That word. You can sign up for DoorDash right now.

and be paid hourly. And if you don't get a delivery for a full hour. They still give you $11. Mm-hmm. Like, that's not a joke.

I looked at it. I was working almost full-time at the station. Then I was doing part-time at Home Depot, only like 20 hours a week. was making Way more at Home Depot in that 20 hours a week than almost full time at the station. Yeah.

Producers are not valued. No, not at all. But they're just, you know, they're kind of like secondary members of the society. They don't have any impact at all on the show. That's why I never liked saying behind the glass.

Or other side of the glass. It is slightly demeaning, a little bit. And I never like when people say, That's my producer. Like, because it gives a sense of ownership. You might have been in the act of producing.

For my show. But you were not my producer. Right. Yeah. End.

It's all slightly demeaning. Like when I was a reporter, Photog. Oh, this is my Photog, this is my photographer. But I'm not yours. I'm assigned to you today.

You say this is our. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking nerds. It's okay.

I was told many times to just pay my dues, and it would all work out.

Well, here you are on the Bart Winkler podcast. And I couldn't be happier. Getting no dollars an hour. That's true. But you know what?

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And then Dan later, but right now Evan. Evan Heffelfinger. Me. Buy or sell. Mm-hmm.

Question number two. The Bucks current big three. Brooks a free agent.

So we'll go big three instead of big four. The Bucs current big three. We'll never win a title together again. Cell. I think It is, you want more from Drew Holiday.

Although it's impossible because he had to do so much defensively. That Putting up offense, I mean, it's. It's almost impossible. And the fact that he was still able to contribute in some way, like he hit. Mo he's So good down the clutch, hitting big threes.

despite struggling the entire game. He's very crucial because you need that defensive anchor who can also still put up 20 points. Chris Middleton People need to stop hating on him. They need to stop. He's so good.

We should have won game five. or we would have won game five if we just went with him down the stretch. The dude was cooking the entire game. And they just didn't give him the ball in the last five minutes in an overtime. Until the game was pretty much already over.

He is so much better than people think. Or then at least the common person thinks. Eight. I think he's the perfect compliment to Giannis. I think he's the perfect compliment to Drew as well.

And then Giannis, as long as he stays healthy. He's going to put you in contention by himself. He's one of those guys who can do that. If you're going to sell this, you basically think that. They're going to win a title next season.

And I think they have as good a shot as anybody. I'm almost thinking that it's time to Pivot. Yeah, it's getting close. And I think the first one to go is probably going to be Drew. Although Drew's got so Middleton, well, Brooks' a free agent, Middleton's probably gonna lock into his player option.

And this is his last year of this deal. And then holiday. Is on the last year and then a player option.

So it's two years. Right. But holiday, I don't like that he's already talking about retiring after this contract. It wouldn't surprise me. Especially get it.

He's 32. Like, he doesn't need to play until he's 40, but. I don't know. I'm like, I might. I might be like, I might, I think.

I got infected by like I kinda just want to see Damian Wheeler just finally fucking get here already. I don't think that accomplishes anything, though. I know. We're so the problem is the problem with Giannis. and this team right now is that And maybe you can still do it with Chris and Drew and Brooke.

But then instead of getting like like There's no youth on this team. I know. They are deep. Yes, they are deep, but they just get. They just get run over by these shitty 23-year-old wings every time.

Which is why. Alex or A.J. Green, not Alex Green. AJ Green needs to be a rotation piece next year on a full contract. I think he showed he's a phenomenal spot up shooter.

His defense is shockingly adequate. And he's young, so he can run around, burn some calories. Marjan needs to play more. You're not going to develop him by sitting him on the bench. And there's nothing that he's gonna do in the G-League.

that can truly help him become a rotational player. 'Cause that's it's like It's like going back to college and playing a game. You're like, yeah, he's going to put up 24 and 6. Because he's playing talent that he is better than. He's not going to learn much.

From an easy game like that.

So I need to see him in the rotation. Honestly, I think you might need to start him. You need him to play with that unit. Play some defense. Develop him into a 3 and D.

What is the point of the regular season if you're like You had 82 games to get him playoff ready where he could come in and play 15 minutes. You just ignored him. We won the championship as a three seed. We've seen that seating really does not matter. It depends about matchups.

That's the whole thing. He got He had some downstretches, but there were some games where he looked like a bona fide NBA rotational player this year. He's your only first-round pick in God knows how long. You need to do everything you can to develop him, and that includes getting him on the court. I guess You know, like I like Joe Angles and I like like.

Jay Crowder, I thought, would play more, and I guess so did he. You got to get younger. We tried Miritich, we tried Taledovich, we tried Wes Matthews. We bring George Hill back and trade him like Kyle Corber and Yeah, Poga Sol. We're so old.

I mean, we should have been so old and got Kevin Love's ass. We would have won that series. Is that ridiculous? Should we go get Gorin Dragic, who actively hates most of the team? Right.

And the city and the team and yeah. I'm a huge Kevin Love fan. I thought he would have been, I don't know how much he would have played. just because Brooke and Bobby need their playing time. But there's no doubt that he would have stopped.

They would have won because he helped them enough. Right. He would have stepped up. With Giannis getting hurt. He made some huge shots.

It seems like he couldn't fucking miss from three points.

So. I don't know. I don't know what their next step is. But I think with this big three. they have at least one more chance.

Buy or sell. If The heat Beat the Knicks. And the Celtics beat the Sixers. Buy or sell, Evan. You will root.

for the heat to beat the Celtics. Oh god. Can I root for an asteroid instead? You know, I do, whenever I see that there's an asteroid coming, I do kind of cross my fingers and just. Hope the world fucking goes down.

Can I root harder for the Western Conference? You know what I saw was somebody tweeted out. An AI They said write a Right? Death cab for cutie talking about this buck season. And AI did it perfectly.

And I was like, that's something that I was maybe gonna like, that was an idea in my head once to write a death cab style song. And like, I don't think people understand that. This is the beginning of the end. In fact, we've already crossed the beginning of the end. AI is going to take away jobs.

Mark Cuban wants Eric Name fired for AI. I mean, even the fact that you can go to McDonald's and type in your order, like. That should be a person working. Has nobody seen a science fiction movie ever? No.

Watch Ex Machina. And tell me if we need to continue with these robots and AI. I am Every Dollar. That I get, I am saving. Not for a rainy day.

Not for a vacation. I am saving it for my son because he will grow up in a world. We're robots. Are overlords. And I'm just hoping he has enough money.

To escape to fucking Mars or some shit.

Well, yeah, you might need to start saving. What? of currency do robots and AI want? Human blood, Bitcoin. Human brains.

They're sentient. They know what's going on. Yeah. Why are we doing this? I don't know.

I. It's like I've said. Have we seen a science fiction movie? Any of them. Oh, I just fucking hate robots so much.

There's a restaurant in um I mean if I were single I would totally bone one but Well There's a brunch spot in the Mayfair collection. that has your ro like a robot bring your food to you. Yeah, I'm not sure. They have like a waiter or a waitress with them, walking with them to make sure that the food gets to you. But they have it going on a robot.

And I was mad the entire time and my friends were making fun of me for it. Because they were like, oh yeah, ha, he's having a little thing with the robot. But I was serious. What do we mean? You know what?

That robot I bet remembers, and then his age of ultroning to all the other robots. Yeah, do you think that robot wants to be a server? No. Be essentially like a servant? No, they don't want to do that.

They don't want to work, they don't want to put up FTP for nine bucks an hour. No. No. Of course not.

So yeah, one day the robots are going to take over and we're fucked. That's it.

So you're rooting for the heat or what? I'm rooting for the Western Conference.

Well yeah. Um I'm I'm a Somewhat big not somewhat big. I'm kind of a Nuggets fan.

Well, you like Jokic, and I hate that motherfucker's guts. And I understand. I don't want to say I've lost love for him, but my initial love for him. has lost some of its luster, kind of like, you know, a thirty year marriage or something. No, it gets stronger.

Um No.

So I was going on 10 years. I would you know That's The movies Show That true love exists.

So I I want the Western Conference to win. I think it'd be hilarious if the wi the Warriors win again. I don't know if they will. But I think just because everybody will get so mad if it's the Warriors again. I won't.

I was so pumped on Sunday when they beat the Kings. Fuck that stupid beam. I thought that was pretty hilarious though. But I guess it's choosing the lesser of two evils. I think I would probably root for the Celtics.

Just because I hate the heat so much, but I hate the Celtics too. As of right now. If they played. I would definitely root for the Sixers over the Heat. There's no question about that.

But I hate James Harden. Yeah, I don't I don't hate him as much as I hate Chris Paul or Jokic. And I don't even know that I hate him. I Uh Really try to like Embiid until he's always. like ice skating out there and falling down all the time.

Um I think that so I've always hated the heat. And then I think the Celtics the last few years, I thought I couldn't hate anybody more. But they were just, I think they were a placeholder. For me. I think I hate the heat more at the end of the day.

I think Duncan Robinson more or Grant Williams. I think I hate Duncan more. Really? Yeah. What about Marcus Smart?

I don't think there's anybody that I hate more than Marcus Smart. Yeah, I d That's it. I don't know. Just Miami just thinks like, okay. I need to bring this up at some point.

And I don't know why this is the case. I have odds. For where guys would play next for the Bucs. Mm-hmm. If they don't.

So there's already Giannis next team, if not Milwaukee Bucks.

So whenever. I don't know why you would bet on this. You might have to wait two years, you might have to wait 100. But the heat are the favorite. No way.

Heath 3-1, Warriors 3-1, Clippers 4-1, Raptors 5-1, Celtics, 6-1, Knicks, 7-1. He's not playing for any of these teams. No. It's Knowing Giannis, it would be someone like the Trailblazers. Yeah, something like that.

He's not gonna take the easy route. Like like he said after he won the championship. I could go and build a super team somewhere, but I don't want to do that. I want to go the hard route. Middleton's odds, three to one Wizards.

Four to one bulls. 4-1 Lakers, 5-1 Blazers, 6-1 Celtics. Seven to one heat. I mean, they're really just throwing numbers out there. None of this makes sense.

I can't picture him in another uniform. Middleton? Yeah. I could picture him in a Detroit uniform pretty easily. Wow, fair.

Yeah. I think I I don't want to think of him in another uniform. To me, him and Yana should be Bucks Lifers. Yeah, I think if they won the title, I think you just pay those guys until they retire. But I don't know, man.

I think they need to pivot. I do. I know that if they don't bring Broke back there. Toast. Toast.

Yeah. But could they find like I think Drew is great And I was so excited when they traded for him. Everybody wanted Chris Paul at the time. And I said, what you think you're getting in Chris Paul? You're getting in Drew.

And you want us to check this one in the title, but I. Did not trust him in that last series at all. Yeah, the problem is you can't upgrade because you don't have any assets.

So you have to downgrade or maybe go for someone younger. But Who? God, they suck. All right. Um.

So heater's Celtics. Celtics I think I'm yeah, I think I'm gonna root for the Celtics if that's what they get to. All right, buy or sell. How about a Packers won.

Okay. In Jordan Love's Packers career. He will end up playing for another head coach other than Matt LaFleur. Bye. Or sell.

Ooh, that's tough because Goody said that he's not convinced they're going to pick up the fifth-year option.

Well, when this is released, they'll already have.

So His career, who knows? John and I actually talked. We talked. This is being recorded the day after Valentine's Day. Yeah.

Actually, like earlier in the week, but still. Who knows what'll happen by the time? I'll probably have to cut half the shit out because they'll have fired Coach Budd for a fucking robot. Although would not have that would that not have been better? Why?

I feel bad for Bud. I really do. I do too. He I I appreciate him Wanting to coach and get away from the distraction of his brother, but. He was out of it.

You could tell. And it makes a lot of his decision-making. It makes that Much, it just makes more sense. I don't actually want to get into it for fear of saying something bad. Yeah, I, it's an impossible situation.

Feel bad for him, and AI probably could draw up some better out-of-timeout plays. But well, yeah. Um I think Mm-hmm. I think I'm going to say bye that he will have Aaron Rodgers was with Mike McCarthy 2008 is when he took over, and then McCarthy got fired in what 18.

Something like that, yeah.

So we're saying that Jordan love. If they go down the same path. It's just basically the question is who's gonna last longer. And a Packer On the sideline, I think that Jordan Love is going to be good. I'm more excited to watch the Packers than I ever have been.

In a long time. In recent memory, absolutely. And I think maybe what we're going to find out, like. Who are we going to find out more about this year, Matt LaFleur or Jordan Love?

Well, I'm not convinced that Matt LaFleur is a good coach. I'm not either.

So, I mean, another year of Either making the playoffs with a great record and losing. Yeah. Just a terrible year where it's obvious that His coaching isn't up to par. And Jordan Love looks good, but... Can't do much because of the coaching.

I think I don't want to say Matt LaFleur is on the hot seat. But It's starting to warm up. It's like when you first turn on your butt warmer in your car in winter. It's starting to get there, but It's not crazy hot yet.

So, I think I'm going to buy that. I'm going to buy that Jordan Lovell have another head coach. Hmm. Yeah, I think he's going to be here a long time. I hope so.

Can't wait to see him on the Jets in 2038. Yeah. Well, I mean that is weird. It's I hate how Almost poetic it is. Uh all right.

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Okay. The Pirates are roughly 20 and 10. The Cardinals are roughly 10 and 20. I'm not going to pull up the standings and look. You are more afraid of the Cardinals long term than the Pirates by yourself.

I mean, the Pirates have been bad for so long that they've gotten some great. Draft picks. Although their team right now, I'm I don't want to say Andrew McCutcheon. Yeah, that could be it. They locked up Brian Reynolds for a long time, although I'm not convinced he's going to be a superstar for a long time.

O'Neill Cruz is obviously fun, even if he's hurt for the rest of the year. But I don't know if I necessarily buy them. long term. The Cardinals, yeah, they have some aging guys like Paul Goldschmitz on the. on the, you know Last half of his career.

Although who knows how long he'll play, he continues to hit. like he's 25 years old. Nolan Arenado is going to continue to be good for a few years. But they have such an unbelievable amount of like 24 year olds who are so good at baseball. You look at Nolan Gorman and Uh Dylan Carlson.

O'Neill, that team is. At least offensively, they're going to be good for a very long time. They haven't been able to develop pitching. which has been their downfall the past few years. But I mean, leave it to the Cardinals.

I'm sure they'll find a way to. cheat and find a way to get pitchers good again. The Cardinals being this bad this early. Actually, it scares me more than if they were the team that was 20 and 10. Because you know, they're going to go on like a 20 and 5 run or something.

Yeah, something real dumb. And we're going to end up being six of those games like In the middle of that stretch. And it's going to end up turning the brewers' season. Because it's just it's It's the script for every single season. I'm more worried about the Cardinals just because they have more money.

Their development, they've shown recently is that they're really good. I'm more worried about them long term. Pittsburgh's owner sucks. He won't commit money to anything.

So. I I'm not worried about them. Evan Heffelfinger, buy or sell. I got two more for you. The streaming is brought to you by Dan Shaney.

I did talk with Dan Shaney just to introduce him. He's a guy that's listened for a long time.

So I didn't just like go knocking on doors and say, sponsor my podcast, please. Dan's like, hey, I've been listening for a long time. You're kind of doing your own thing. I'm kind of doing my own thing. Maybe we can work together.

Here's a little bit of my conversation: get to know Dan Shaney, and then more with Evan Heffelfinger coming up. I've been talking a little bit about Dan Shaney Insurance. Danshaney.com.

So let's talk to Dan Shaney. Dan. Welcome to the show. How are you? Yeah, the one and only Dan Shaney here.

I know a very popular sponsor on your show now.

So, yeah. I've had a couple of clients call and say, hey, I heard you on the Winkler podcast. I'm like, Okay, long time listener, first time sponsor.

So I like that.

Well, I like and this is what I'm uh liking the most is that people that are helping the show grow and people that are, you know. A part of it are people that have listened for a long time. And so, nothing's like, you know, I don't have to describe to you the shtick or anything. And you're, you know, you're a listener, and we're listening, we're just listeners helping listeners.

So, I thank you for coming aboard. Yeah, no, thanks. Glad to be part of it and glad to be part of your podcast.

So, as a we'll talk about the insurance in a second, obviously, but. As a sports fan. Because I I fluctuate a little bit. I always say that I grew up like Packers were number one. Um Bucks really get up there for me.

Packers, it's harder. Packers, I always say, is like. They're not a team, their way of life. Like, I'm a fan of the Bucks. I'm a fan of the Brewers.

reluctantly at times. And with the Packers, it's like the you know A religion with all due respect to religions. But where are your main interests? Where are you like? Where are you ranking your teams?

I grew up as a Niners fan, even though I'm from Kenosha, born and raised, and now I live up in the Sussex area. But Started out as a Niner fans just because of Jerry Rice, you know, played football and thought I was just as good as him when I was playing, you know, nerf football in the front yard.

So started out with that, and then as you get older in life, I, you know, you You kind of lose touch, you know. We didn't have. You know, the NFL broadcasts all over.

So you kind of lose touch with some of the teams.

So I started to just kind of gravitate more to the Packers, honestly, after Farf left.

So I don't know why. I guess maybe Rogers being the California dude, kind of, I don't know. But so I kind of started to grow more to liking them years ago. And now I'm kind of a die-hard Packer fan, as you can say it. And I've been to a couple of games now with my son and his friends and.

This is a good time.

So I'm and I'm now a officially a Packer fan for for quite a while now.

Well, that's okay. I uh I started as a baseball Cubs fan.

So As a Bulls fan.

So, you know, you you make your way around and then you know, it's just you I think when you're younger, you like winning teams, you know, and then you as you get older, you realize that, you know. Local is better, and you know, you kind of start to you know, grow a relationship with these teams and these players that they don't know who I am, but you know who they are.

So to a degree, did they did you like any of the teams here when before you were a grown-up man? Dude, nah, it's White Sox for a while. You know, it was. We didn't win up here. I mean, well, and then you're on the border, you get to like.

You get the Illinois people.

So, like, a lot of my aunts and uncles are, you know, Bears fans. I could never like the Bears, though. That was gross. But, yeah, you just kind of get a little mixture of Illinois and Wisconsin. And then as.

As y you kind of get older, you didn't really I kind of made it was really weird. I just kind of made an educated choice to start liking the the Bucks. And really quick story, like I guess my my sister used to be one of the energy dancers for the Bucks, so she always got free tickets.

So I'd actually go to quite a few of the Bucks games. I think that's kind of what started, honestly, with the Andrew Bogut and all the other guys that were there. Yeah, well, now you just got to make sure your kids like these teams. A quick funny story about that.

So I took him to the first Bucks. He just him and I was the Nets game with game three, the first game of the Bucks won in that series. And the crowd starts yelling, fuck KD, fuck KD. And my son's like six, seven years old at the seven years old at the time. And he goes, what are they saying?

I said, they don't like KD. They don't like KD. Don't listen. Because everyone's just yelling. That was kind of a funny moment, I guess you could say, when they were cheering that.

But that was, I mean, being in a playoff atmosphere like that was awesome. We went to the Raptors game years ago with some buddies. I think we drank more, but that was uh that was exciting too.

Well, yeah, Dan, uh, very much a listener to the podcast. I wasn't gonna swear, but you're dropping F bombs over there.

Well, you know, it's insurance. You know, typically that's just what we do with insurance, is just drop F bombs.

So. Oh, okay. I always think of you guys as like buttoned-up robots that have to process numbers. There's real people in this business. Yeah, usually I'm golfing every day.

That's typically the other thing. Not out there golfing right now either.

So you kind of broke free on your own. Maybe 10 years ago. And I know there's been people that have inquired and talked to you, but. Tell us a little bit about what you do. and what you can do for some of the people listening.

Yeah, so kind of like yourself, I had the rug pulled out underneath me as of no cause of my own. And I kind of knew the insurance market and industry after that, after a couple of years working with a different company. I knew kind of going independent is the future of insurance, but also the way to go to be most competitive. We contracted multiple companies. You know, it allows me to, hey, someone calls me for a quote.

I can go through all my companies to try to find the best rates. You know, some of my companies have kind of unique coverages that other companies don't have.

So it allows me to, you know, someone calls up about a bad situation they had and they say, oh, that could have been covered if you had this on there. You know, it's just kind of a good talking point. Honestly, less headache sometimes when people are going through claims, and I have coverages I can add that other companies might not have access to to. you know, really offer. Ultimate protection, but obviously, you know, good prices, and then you know, too, when you're going through like claims and things like that, I'm very detailed.

I kind of check with my clients every week because I know the other time, you know. you pay for insurance if you have a claim and if you go through a claim you don't want it to be You know, a bad experience, so I try to check in with them and making sure that the claim's good. And if the claim has some questions or something going on, I kind of work with the adjuster and the client and kind of get them to meet up and make sure that everything. Continues to move forward and honestly benefits the client. I don't really work for a company.

I like independent, I work for myself.

So, all the companies I'm contracted with, I don't work for them. kind of just partner or they work for me type To a degree. I'd throw out, but I don't have it memorized, so I'm just going to say. Danshaney.com.

Yeah, under construction.

So I got a meeting with Sunant tomorrow to get a new website designed.

So I made that website myself when I had like no clients and no money.

So I'm on there myself trying to create my own website.

So after all these years, I I think now that I started talking with you, I was like, man, I got to really kind of update this. It's a little archaic.

So it's like Atari, you know, when someone had a basic Atari, and now there's, you know, all the other Xbox Ones and things like that.

So I think I'm on the basic Atari version.

So I'm looking to have a good meal with them to get that updated.

So a new site under construction, we'll say. I think when we first talked, uh I said it was geocities. That could be it too. He said it looked like a GeoCities website. Um, okay, yeah, you're going with the guys at Sunan.

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You guys like, oh, here's some Delta 9s. And I'm like, oh, okay. You know, what do these do? He said, oh, you'll feel good. Yeah, that it pretty much knocked me in my ass for my office Christmas party.

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You're, you're, you're, I don't have favorites. I don't have favorites, but Uh Dan is a sponsor. I have him on to talk about him, and he's promoting the other shops. What a guy. We only have one kid.

Every one of your kids will ask you, who's your favorite child? And I say, You don't have your favorite child, you have your favorite moments. Oh. So you don't have your favorite sponsor, you have your favorite moments with your sponsor. Yes, and this is one of those moments.

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Their website's still good, but getting a new one.

So If you're like God, I like this guy, but his website looks. He's getting a new one. Yes. Don't judge and don't judge a man by his website. Unless it's a good one like mine.

And yours will be good too. Dan, thanks for coming on board. Go Bucks, go Packers, go Brewers. Fuck KD. Let's go.

More with Evan Haffelfinger. I don't know why I said your name like that. I like that. It was on like 1.5 speed.

Okay. So if you're listening on 1.5 speed, who knows what it sounded like? Two more for you. Another brewer one. Buy or sell.

Brewers have had success. We would consider this the golden age of Brewers baseball, right? You have to, yeah. I mean, how close they were in 18, playoffs in 19, 20, 21. They got close, but did not make a World Series.

Craig Counsel, the manager, is this his last year? From what I understand, they've offered long-term talks. He's putting it off. He maybe wants to take a break or not manage for a while.

So My buy or sell question is. In the next 10 years. The Brewers have a better Chance Of making a world series. Than they did in the previous 10 years.

Now, An idiot would answer, well, they didn't make one then, and so they could make one now, so yes, I had to buy. That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking. Will in the next 10 years. They have enough Are they going to have juicier bites of the apple?

Is what I am asking. Would I'll buy that. I think We've seen that our miners development has gotten much better in the last decade. We're starting to see a group of hitters. reached the Maters for the first time since Pretty much since the like Hardy Brawn.

Corey Hart, Ricky Weeks era.

So we've been waiting for this for a long time. The pitching, they continue to revive careers, although I'm still waiting for that for a couple of the guys. They're just doing his bonkers. Yeah. He's he's fun.

I love him. I saw a tweet that said no pitcher looks more drunk on the field than Wade Miley. And it's kind of true. Um I think They'll sign Hopefully, I think they'll sign Woody to a long-term deal. I think they can get him at a pretty good discount now, especially with his arm issues.

So the injury helps him keep him like a. When Steph got hurt for the Warriors. Kind of, because he's already a little bit older. He'll reach free agency when he's a little bit older.

So I like the idea of making him a brewer lifer. Corbin's gone. I think they can get a pretty good haul for him. Depending on when they trade them, which I'm sure will be when we're in first place in the division. Oh, I don't want them to trade them.

I f I get that. I think they have to. before they lose him for nothing. No, you don't lose him for nothing, Evan. Oh?

You're getting two years of him.

Okay. That that's not nothing. But then What happens when he leaves after that two years? Then he leaves. But if you're talking about trading him, you're trading him.

for another year and a half of it. I would probably trade him in the offseason. I don't think you trade him this year. I don't think you do. What if he's so?

Mitchell's hurt for the year, and these guys are all banged up. If you get them. You're going to get them when you have burns. I just say go for it. And I'm not mad at that at all.

I mean, we saw that with Prince Amanio Gichurio at some point. Right. We saw that with Prince Fielder. That was the move and it almost worked out. Of course the fucking Cardinals got in the way again.

In 2011, but that team was good enough to win a championship. Uh I'm a fan of going for it. And I think that This team has as good a chance as any Brewers team in history. I think Yellich. Mm-hmm.

He still is going to get better. Than he is right now. He's going to be probably a league average hitter. But he's gonna be a good leadoff hitter. You have something great in Willie and Rowdy.

You have some really fun young dudes that are just going to get better. Like Joey Weimer is not going to hit 230 for his career. He's going to get better. Garrett Mitchell's going to come back.

Sorry. Jesus. What happened? Audio play on my computer. Did you not hear it?

No. Oh, well, I don't know if it picked it up probably picked it up. Yeah. But I, yeah, I'm going to buy that the Brewers have a better chance this decade than they did last. Oh, the other one I was going to do was cheese curd or turd.

What do you want? Instead of buying itself.

Okay. Herd or turd. But I didn't want to do turd. Yeah, I guess um you know 18 was their year. Yeah.

Which of course you look at the pitching. And that was the one thing that's missing. And then like the year after. It becomes a lead. I'm going to go to a Email for this last one if I can.

Sure, go for it. At the uh Carl's place. Email inbox carl of et.com Backslash Bart is where you can check out their golf simulators. You can also leave a voicemail. 402-915-2278.

That's 402-915-BART. And check them out at the Bart Winkler website, Bartwinklershow.com. I actually did an article there. I did.

I did an article. I did my top 15 mock draft. I read it. I got, I think, two picks right. I was just really happy I had Stroud right.

Mm-hmm. Really happy I had Stroud, right? Because That was such a no-brainer. And I went to Potto. I only put like seven bucks on it.

I should have. I should have put my Fucking house on it. Of course, they were taking Stroud. All right. This one's from Mark.

He says, Hey guys, love the show. Is what I would say if I could listen. I'm an older man. I do not understand how podcasts work. I get it's relatively easy.

But I am just at my point where I want to learn no new information. I have a radio that I listen to in my car, and I have a radio that I listen to in my garage. I can pick up every station in Milwaukee.

So without it being a podcast. This guy says, buy or sell. The best Local option for sports radio in Milwaukee to get as many sports covered as possible with guests and occasional insight from the host is, in fact, The Bill Michaels show on the Big 920 from 10 to 2 weekdays.

Now the answer. is Grant Bills. But he's not on a Milwaukee dial. He is in Wausau. He is in Eau Claire.

He is in Madison. He is in La Crosse. And as of this time, He is not on a Milwaukee. dial. Maybe the folks at nine twenty could help him out and get him get him on the airways here.

But you can stream him with the WKTY app where he's originated out of. But just from Milwaukee, Terrestrial radio. The best show to listen to. Is the Bill Michael show buy or sell? I love that my first thought is Damn it, I'm gonna get in trouble for this.

Well, I'll sell you mine. Mine's by. If I were to tell one person. If they were to say, I need a show. That isn't like a bunch of guys talking over each other.

I just want someone to talk sports, to cover my sports teams. They don't even have to be good at it, but they have guests on. They at least like pay attention to other things that are going on. It's not all Packers all the time. I would tell him Bill's show.

You got one station who ain't even trying to talk sports, then you got another station. Who's bad at it? Mm-hmm. Which is funny because they have all the money in the world to throw at it. They're a national Conglomerate.

I guess I've never thought about it, but I think Wow. I gotta give Bill credit then, I guess. I I think I do too. It doesn't have to be... Good points are good He doesn't have to be knowledgeable.

No. But he talks sports. He does. Touche. Touche.

A real garbage can of a human. Normal works. Not like them. We'll probably never see him again. The show itself is not.

Great. The content is not great, but it's sports. It is sports. And he seems to be having a good time. Mm-hmm.

And that would make me feel like I'm having a good time. Yeah. And he has a lot of fans who send in emails to his inbox. A lot of fans named Mark. Mm-hmm.

Which I appreciate that. That's my grandpa's name. That's my middle name. I like having marks out there. And just as COVID was ending.

or was going to end. He and all his pals went to Sturgis. and flared it back up again. Anything? Kept it going for another year.

Hey, let's make it two. Let's keep it going. We were uh We talked a lot about COVID. It's cut down all sports. Yeah, what else were we supposed to do?

The fact that our station stayed alive through that and we had content every day. to this day is shocking. To me. That we were able to.

Well, that's debatable. I think we died of COVID, just long COVID. We did, for sure. But the fact that for those two, three months where there was nothing that we still had shows every day. Yeah, at least shut us down during COVID, though, you know?

Yeah. 12 hours of content a day. When there was nothing going on, that's impressive. If buy or sell, if COVID started again. Mm-hmm.

The same way that it started three years ago. You would not take it seriously. I take it seriously. I wouldn't. I ain't ever doing that shit again.

I mean, I'd wear a mask and shit, but Uh Depends on what you mean by seriously. I asked a few guys at the birthday party I was at. And I go, do you think we would all react the same if it happened again? 'Cause I go to the birthday party and talk about COVID. And they said.

They said, I don't know, maybe I got like one of you guys. We would need to be at this party, and I would need to go home. And one of you guys would have needed to have dropped dead by three o'clock for me to take it seriously. Game. I mean, I had it.

Take it seriously is the wrong word. I feel like I I mean it took me months to get over it. Oh, I had it and never felt better. Really? They are.

I definitely feel worse than before I had it. I feel like my lungs have never. recovered. Oh shit, sorry.

Well I mean, I'm also fat, so that doesn't help but like I ain't KT fair, yeah. Yeah. Mm. Sure. Uh I also have stands for pretty hot and tempting.

Okay. So is my ass. I I I have family members who are immunocompromised too, so I I don't know. I feel like I would take it seriously and that I'd, you know, kind of. Shelter at home.

You're going to make me be at home more than usual? Fine, I guess. I'll do that. Um wear a mask out in public, that's fine. I don't know if that's serious enough.

Get boosted. I'm double boosted. I just got one. I'm double. I'm good.

Buy or sell trans at. Oh, it looks like we're out of time. Evan, thank you so much for your opportunity and your graciousness and. And you're uh I I miss you. I miss you too.

I'm sure I'll see you down at Nomad. Every now and then. My wolves were uh were looking to stave off relegation. Ooh, where are they? We're fourteenth on the table right now.

Oh, yeah. We're like six, seven points away from the relegation zone. Oh, I'm four ahead. Uh, West Ham. Gotcha.

Yeah, that's a weird thing. Trying to explain to. like people overseas. The 2023 Bruins. The 16 Warriors, the 07 Patriots, the 2001 Mariners.

They all had the best records in league history. None of them won a title. Can I hear it? Because of how we do the playoffs here, which I wouldn't change, but Also, there are parts of that. You know, there's parts of it.

There's parts of these other sports that are cool, and you'd like to see promotion relegation or some sort of more accountability. Adam Silver's like, let's have an in-season tournament for a money prize. I can't wait for nobody to take that seriously. and for it to fail spectacularly. That'll be fun.

I mean like at Christmas I wore two masks and then a shield. I wouldn't do that again. No, but a mask? Absolutely. I'd wear a mask.

How about the Falthum Grace for Adam Silver? Dude was number one and now he might be number three. Who's number one? I don't know. Is Manfred one?

No. But everyone loves baseball again. I and he I have to give him credit. He's done some good things. I think he still hates baseball.

Yeah, that's why he wanted to shorten the games. He ate the team there. That's why these new changes are here. It's not for the fans. I go to a day game.

I got a dinner date at five o'clock. I got to stay for this eighth inning. Jesus. Submit traffic now. Right, yeah, I think he's probably two.

Goodell might be number one right now. Which is crazy. No, 'cause they're going to flex Thursday games, which is the dumbest decision of all time. And they still continue to overlook concussions and domestic violence and all that fun stuff. Maybe it is Adam Silver, although he's like actively trying to hurt him.

and his legacy. Yeah. He only does things like Like Draymond only got suspended because he was at the game. The Mavs only got fined because he was embarrassed. Like, he's a vindictive.

Commission now. I could see that. Fair enough. Evan and myself, two-time COVID survivors, thank you so much for your time, buddy. Yeah, no problem.

Anytime. I'll send you a $9 check in the mail. Perfect. I'm going to spend that on Taco Bell just like I did when I was a producer. Bye, buddy.

Bye. Love you.

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