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Go on. Morning, everybody. I'm taping. I like that we, us crazy guys. Paul Emmett, Grant Bills.
We tape. This in the morning.
So it's like As morning, it is good morning, everybody. I got my morning, I got my morning voice. The gravitas. Um Needlessly hung over on a fucking weekday. On a random Tuesday.
On a random Tuesday in the summer.
Okay. All right. Uh mm mm-mm. I do need to tell you guys first about my Karen moment. I'm genuinely very excited to hear this.
Very, very excited. Looking back, I don't think I was in the wrong. And I have to explain the setup of the grocery store.
So, you guys understand what's going on.
So, Metro market. In Shorewood.
Okay, it's a double decker. Too free.
Well yeah. Um And there's like the first floor is like. produce and you know, the the market style of Metro Market. Metro market's like, we're kind of like a public market. You just place your butcher in a different spot.
You're not you're not like breaking ground here.
So the first floor is all that. Flowers. Little cafe, Starbucks. Second floor is basically the grocery store. And the liquor department is like right when you walk in.
And they they've changed it now. You know in the office, When uh all of a sudden Jim had this office, and Daryl had this office that never existed, and then it was just there. They never explained how it got there. Yeah. Really, that always bothered me.
So, Metro Market did that with a liquor. Area. And they had this liquor area. They still have the liquor area, but then they have like an exclusive liquor area. It's like you can still get all your beer and wine here, but then some of not even all the spirits, some of the spirits are in this thing.
And there's a cash register outside of it. But nobody's ever sitting there.
So every time I buy booze there. I Just check it out myself. And the lady comes over and says.
Okay, that that you know. You got to be 18 or older to sell liquor. To scan liquor in a grocery store. You gotta be eating.
So That's the premise. I walk in. Get my bottles? And I have many more shoppings to do. This was the first thing I hit.
I parked on the first floor, went up to the second, grabbed a couple bottles. I needed to go get some soda. I needed to come back around. I needed to go to the first floor. I needed to get some fish.
So you went liquor before groceries. Yes.
Okay. The last thing I wanted to get was the salmon that we cooked. Smart. Yep.
So I went. And I I had two bottles and I walked out and the guy goes, Hey, you got to pay for that here.
Now I have many more groceries shoppings to do. He goes, you got to pay for that here. I go. Why? He said.
That's why there's a cash register here. And I said I don't want to do that. And I left my cart there. And I just left the store.
So, what are your thoughts? How did you get from? How that's a big jump there from I don't want to do that to I'm just going to leave and buy nothing. I went downstairs to get the fish. But then I went to a different store to get the liquor.
He doesn't have More. I think for this to be your your moment though. You didn't make a scene. I was expecting this to conclude with that you made a big scene. You know.
Ask for a manager. Oh, you did? No, I mean if you're this guy and you're working the counter I think he was the liquor manager, is what his name takes said. And if you're working the counter and this guy goes, I don't want to do that, and leaves the cart in the middle and just walks away. Is it something you're going to be like?
You go home, and like if he goes home to his wife, and he's, you know, people yell all the time. He's not bringing that up at the dinner table, but he's probably like. Sharon, listen to this. What this fucking guy did today. He says, I don't want to pay there, and he left.
The cart? What the f freak?
Okay. What's a frank? We say what's a frank. In this house, we in this house, we respect our elders. We Wash our hands, we do the dishes, we say what the Frank, and we root for the Green Bay Packers.
I did hope you got I did hope your story was going to be more. That is More just more. I thought I was. I mean, I didn't want you to have made a bigger scene. I'm glad you didn't, but also for story purposes, I hoped you did.
Well, I you never know, Paul. I could get recognized. I was went to the zoo yesterday, and uh, the guy that took the ticket said, Are you Bart? Really? Zookeeper Fred?
Was that his caller name or something like that back in the day? Yeah, then we go to the zoo, and there's these two people. We were going to see the gorillas, and these two people left, and they're like. They're not really out there today. They were, but also the husband and wife were dressed up like they were on a fucking safari.
to go to the zoo like What is the wrong bet? What do you think you're going to do here? You think you're Dr. Alan Grant? I don't know.
Kind of adds to the experience, don't you think? You wear a nice vest, nice beige. I don't know. So but what what 'cause this this liquor thing Why?
So I'm gonna pay there, walk around in the bag with my receipt, do all my other shopping. What's the point? He clearly knew I had more shopping to do. There's still, and the way that it's set up, like, I could have just picked up a beer. On the way out, and then just gone anywhere.
It's not exclusive. And I just thought that he was being some. Because here's what I text my parents after this: because my parents were here and my wife. And here's what I text my parents to tell them. What I was doing.
I was going to get some booze, but they were making me pay at the register, which they never do. I said, I don't want to do that. I left my cart there and I walked away. Guys, I live society by the rules. I am a good person.
I just hate when people make up rules for no reason. I don't like listening to people and having being told what to do. This is the crux of what makes me me. Oh, so now this is something we can go on. I don't think this was your, this was a Karen thing.
This is a Larry David thing for you. I don't like seeing cold. What to do.
Well, i as long as it's not arbitrary and unnecessary. Like, I could do my PA job at Forward Madison. I do my PA job, and I didn't really know what they wanted, and I did it. And then they go, Hey, actually, these are kind of like the script of how we want things to say. And such, I go, Great, let me know.
Whatever you guys want, I'll do. I'm here for you, whatever you guys want. You tell me I do it. That's fine, but I don't want people to be like Oh. Yep.
Bart, do this. Or do your show this way, or you have to walk that way, or you have to check out. No, I don't. I don't. There's fifty fucking registers in this place.
That's why you don't buy liquor first. That's why you end by popping in the liquor store. It's the last. But this guy's checking out my fish. He doesn't have a scale for that.
I would probably do two separate checkouts. I would then take my cart into the liquor store, add the final item into the cart that I already have, and then pay for it, which is what I did on Saturday at Pick and Saturday. I should have done what I did. We all go to Metro Market Bart.
Some of us need to, you know, shop with the common man.
Well, I should have done what I just normally do and just put it on the bottom of the cart and walk out with it. I forgot it was down there. Oh, ah. This one guy I used to know. He got like in trouble for that.
And he's like, I forgot it was down there. And they go, okay, well, we actually have you on video and documented. You forgot it was down there 20 times over the last two months. Whoa. And he's like You got me.
Yeah. All right, fine. I'll buy them. I don't know if you'll know this off the top of your head. I think you just did, like, you know, you just wrote a curb your enthusiasm bit, right?
Like, there's just the unwritten rules of society. Grant, do you have, do you have, do you have, I can tell you mine if you want to think of yours. There's one that always drives me nuts or drove me nuts past tense, but um. The biggest one that came up for me recently, where I used to keep like a note on my phone, like a notepad of like things that I would experience. I'd say, okay, if I was a writer for Curb, this would be one of my things I would write.
Here we go. Oh my God, I have endless notes in the notes section of the iPhone. And one of them was. You're at Lambeau Field. Everyone's going in the inn.
And that one motherfucker thinks he's so clever that there's no line in the out. to fucking to jail with you. Sir. Like. Out of society.
You're gone. You were the one smart guy who's like, there's no line over here. I'm going to go take the out. Fuck you. You're, I mean, you're a bad member of society.
Wow, you're almost like doing an impression of me. But I'm telling you, this is what fires me. Like, I'm genuinely, this is, there's no like acting to this. I'm just pissed even thinking about that someone would be such a shithead. Grant, do you have one?
I don't know that I can think of it. Do you have your own list of things if you were a curb writer, hypothetically, that you're because you're a total writer? Open up your notes app. I wrote down, you wanna, the last thing that I wrote down? was a a quote from The show that I'm watching right now.
I'm watching suits. And one of the things that are watching. No, hold on. Why are you watching suits? There's so many good TV shows.
You're re-watching suits from the USA. I've never seen that.
Okay, go ahead. Go for it. I've never seen Megan Markle in anything. I feel like this is a piece of the society equation that I need. This is the biggest thing she's been in.
I got a season in. I was like, okay, so Megan Markle was in this. What's the thing she's actually known for that allowed her to marry and no, that's fucking it. It was a show on USA.
Okay. In my notes, I wrote down, quote. Tastes like a stagnant pond, because one of the lawyers was talking about how. A different beverage client tastes like shit. I'm like, that's funny.
I'll use that to diss on a beer that I don't like sometimes. But no situations. I really like Kerr, but I haven't written down any situations. Nothing comes to mind. Mm.
Bart, I was not doing an impression of you. I just also have these There's rules. There's rules of society. You go in the in, you go out the out. You don't make up arbitrary decisions that benefit you.
I felt like Larry David in the pick and save this last weekend. It's my least favorite place in the entire world is the pick and save on Lion Street, right up the hill from Pfizer Forum of Juneau. There's not a place in the world I hate more. I go in there and I'm in line in the liquor store, I'm in line for the checkout. And the line could be like three, four people long.
Guarantee there's two people in that line that don't understand how grocery stores work. They get to the register with their things and they're like, wait, you need. You need money. You need money. Well, you need money for all the things.
Oh, I'm sorry. And then they'll leave the things there and then they'll leave. It's like, what the fuck? And I'm always, it always takes forever. I just, I just hate that pick and save.
There are people that go grocery shopping and like. If you have a budget. Count the Prices is your what happened to living within your means? You know, only spending what you can afford to spend. That's that's, I don't know.
Nonsense. I have one other one. I have one other one I just want to mention because it's another sports one. I'm not looking at my app, but they were next to each other. Oh, have you ever sat next to the person at a probably a sporting event, but it could also be like a movie theater?
But let's call it a sporting event. Where, in order for them to leave the row, you have to stand up or at least move your something, right? Sure, sure. And all they do. is stand up.
And kind of like Look in the direction of the aisle. No, excuse me, no pardon me, like just just like in like I'm just going to kind of stand here. Um You probably know what I would like to do theoretically. Um so Uh, what do you think? I'm not g I don't wanna say anything.
I I'm not gonna be polite. I'm just going to stand here. Paul's going off today. Yeah, Paul even stood up. I think that Midwesterners standing, I just kind of like crouch, but we go over the top.
Oh my God, I'm so sorry. I swear this last time. Oh, like Midwesterners, normally we go over the top with the aisle exiting, but you're saying some people they don't, they don't. It's specifically, it's specifically the one time I wrote it down. The things that my brain decides to remember.
I went to a Badgers hockey game. For the first time since college. It was like five years ago or something. And we were in a little row, and this person. like multiple times got up to come back and go and that never at one point Said a word, but was plenty chatty.
It's not like this was like a quieter person. It's just like, you know what I mean?
So that also hurt their case, where it was like, I know that you You know how to communicate and all of that. And you're just choosing to be a dick. Yeah, I only. I only sit at aisles now, because I don't, I'd rather be the guy that. Gets up.
Like, I don't mind if, oh, you got, I don't want to be the guy. I don't want to be the get up guy. Yeah. I don't want to make, you can make me, I don't care. The other call I want to make you.
Do you have a consistent which which direct if you had to get out of an aisle? Which way are you going past the person with your butt towards them or opposite? How do you or do you like Like I try to like get like a whiff of intercourse. I go front. No, I think I go butt.
Grant? Is that the standard? Is that like, I don't know the, I don't know the societal rules. I think it's the standard, yeah. Is I go, I make myself thin and I slide by.
But I'm not a big leave. If I'm at a concert or a game, my ass is in that seat. Or if I'm at church, my butt is on that pew. There's no bathroom breaks for me. I will wait until the thing is done.
And then I'm always so amazed. Like, okay, like NBA halftimes are very short, right? And people who've been to games at Pfizer Forum know: like, if you get up at halftime, it's a very good chance. It's tighter than the normal arena.
Okay, I didn't know that. But I wish I couldn't. They did not account for. The average weight of a human when they build that arena. Yeah, great.
That was very suffocating. If you're a fat like me. If you're a fat. All right. I don't even know what I'll say.
Oh, but people who will come back with like five minutes to go in the third quarter because they just really needed that food item or that drink. I'm like, You can eat or drink anywhere. You're going to miss seven minutes of this 48-minute game. Eating at the ballpark is part of the experience. Then plan differently.
Like, you know, or like, I'm not saying don't eat or drink at the game. I'm saying, like, I'm surprised that a person would. Opt. to miss Multiple minutes of the thing. It's different like in a maybe a baseball game, but like you come back from halftime, like the fine-story form is always half empty because.
Anyway. Yeah, guys, I don't want to do this. That was me from before. Oh. In the liquor store.
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I don't know. I got it for free on one of my apps. What about just a big old... Big old jug of water, just a big old bottle of water. You don't drink enough water, you know that.
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So, okay, so I did it differently where I put in, like, okay, and whatever it was, 13. If I want to lose the weight I want to lose with how big I am, it says like eat 1300 calories. No, it doesn't. It's a low, Paul. 2000s.
Yeah. Okay. Mine was set at like if I wanted to lose a pound a week, it was like twenty five hundred calories a day or something like that.
Well, it's a good time for a break. You can do two. Uh Huh? He just cut off my back. Tim will edit that in post.
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You need indeed. Are you going to uh The game grant? The game? Are you going to the Steve Thursday? Uh Should I?
Bobby Porta's gonna be there. Oh shoot. Uh I don't think I have anything else to do. I might as well come. I should come see what my city has to offer.
I should go check out the Steve, I think. It's an international friendly game. It's not a league game for Forward Madison. We've got.
Something I don't know how to pronounce yet. I should remedy that by Thursday. Probably should as the PR. Grant, why would you not? Set up a media interview with the Player of the day.
Mr. Bobby Portis.
Well, I probably need some help from the PA announcer at the game. Bart, what do you think about that? You do work on a statewide network now. I would not do it. I honestly don't think that they have, like, he has time for it.
I don't project statewide, Paul. Look at me. You you project statewide. Mm-hmm. And in six years you'll be selling used cars.
God damn it. All right. That was good. That was the last book. I get it, Joel.
Did that really take you that 20 seconds? That took you a weird amount of time, Bart. Yeah, I didn't know. I was like I said, I'm fucking hungover as hungover. Cat on the wall.
Ask us a question. You teased your Monday episode. was brewers sweep the reds and like, and then you had like Otani trade. I skipped the portion where you said you were going to propose. I was like, okay, I'm going to wait on that because I don't want to know what you.
We're thinking on your own because there is. I was just thinking. Here's like based on this website. Here's like what it would take. And I think you guys have an opinion.
Oh, well, but then I got drunk on Monday night and changed my Twitter profile picture to show Hey Otani in a brewer's hat.
Well, I don't know which website you use. There's one that has always been very reliable and good with Giving value, like, how much value? How many points is you know, is each player worth? And maybe you, maybe that's the one you used. I get higher than.
And of course, like, because Otani as One of the pro he'll probably go down as one of the best players to ever play the sport. Despite that, right, it's you'll still only get the guy for two months.
So his value, his points aren't they're they're big, but they're not enormous. But he is two players. I assume that's accounted for within the valuation. I don't know that they did. The brewers have.
Here's how the brewers could get to the Otani points on this trade value scale. 2021 first round pick Sal Freelick. Plus 2022 first round pick Eric Brown Jr. And that's it. No, but the angels wouldn't do that, is the problem.
So, so, so, hold on.
So, like, here's, I'm gonna start with it. I'm gonna say, like, according to point scale.
So free lick You're getting two first-round picks, recent two first-round. And Freelich, by the way, is not just a first-round pick, he's a very highly, a very highly touted recent first-round pick. Freelich, Eric Brown Jr. Which, according to the trade value chart, Is enough. And then, like, You know, some extra stuff just to kind of sweeten the pot, as none of the big names, none of your top 10.
Um, brewers' prospects or anything like that. Maybe a couple other 11th through 30th ranked brewers' prospects. Would you do free lick? Freelich Weemer It was like Freelich Weimer, Pyamps, and uh Some other guy. Heavy, heavy, mm-mm.
See ya. Heavy, heavy. There's no chance in fucking hell that they're getting Otani, and then there's none. It's gonna it's gonna be a it's gonna like It's going to be a fun two weeks of Brewers fans. Bitching about why didn't we trade for the most expensive rental of all time?
It's never happening. See, but I'm going to pretend like this two weeks there's a chance.
Okay. Okay, here's a mm-hmm for you, and then we can go back to the trade, though. It's more likely the brewers would acquire Because I'm thinking about like Sabbathia 2008. It's more likely the brewers would acquire Otani. a rental than Arenado, A long-term salary fixture that's going to be on your books for a long time.
So, more likely, in fact, that they would do. a rental in Otani than a long-term pricey type Arenado or that Otani is more likely. of the two options. That's a problem. No, Aronado's probably more likely.
Why? The viewer. Trade for Otani. But like seriously though Like, what would stop them? Like, what is stopping you from thinking that it's so outrageous that they would?
Um Well Last year they were in first place and traded away, guys.
So and they, A, that was a different head of baseball operations. And two, they've learned from that, presumably. Um, they they talked about the fact that they learned from it.
So I just think, I think that, um, This is so like there's People Okay. People around here are cheap. But not I don't know. There's one every time I do a fantasy draft with these Fond guys. We do an auction bid, and everyone like hangs onto their money till the very end, and then I had like $40 left over.
I was like, well, I don't want to spend it. It's not real fucking money. Yeah. Like, get the guy you want. Oh, oh, I'll go 30 on him, but I won't go 35.
Why? It's fucking t It's Corey Seeger. Spend, spend. It's the first guy thrown out there. Always take the first guy thrown out, especially when you're in a draft with a bunch of Fondi Cheapos.
Mm-hmm. They don't know what the value's going to be yet. I say that though, and I did that this year, and I'm in last place. Uh I don't know. I think like the Brewers, the Brewers could have a trade for Otani.
Leveled out and done. And then, like, Matt Arnold would have the paper and he would, like, shit himself when it's time to make the call. He'd be like, Yeah, I just, I just, I don't feel like they could do it. I think the, I think the good thing is, though, is that. Because He what?
He wears 17, and that's already unofficially retired for Jim Cantner, so he wouldn't come here.
Well, it's not up to Shohei Otani. Um Okay. And I just don't see God, I think honestly. It is more likely the Brewers move in the next 10 years than it would be they have Shohei Otani on their roster. It just it is like a Like, I don't think that it's not even like a non-zero thing.
It is, there is no chance. See, in hell. I disagree. I mean, the the chances of the Brewers signing Otani this offseason Is negative one billion. Like it, of course, they're not giving training form is negative.
999. Those two things are completely separate. And in fact, like opposite correlation because Like with Sabbathia. And they're going to toss him some bullshit like offer in the offseason, but it was never going to be competitive. They're never gonna sign Johe Otadi.
in a million years that will like They will move in the next four days before that will happen. But trading I don't think I I think you're overestimating Yes, this is not me like lessening the team.
Well, the angels are also a team that this guy does not want to trade them. He doesn't want Artie Moreno doesn't want Was the owner when Shohei Otani was traded on his Resume. But by the way, I think the most likely thing is the Angels. Fucking keep them. What the angels should do.
What the angels should do is they should trade Otani. And then sign him this offseason. That's the best way. This is why I said, guys, I'm on CBS radio sometimes. Zach Elb, Zach Elb Friday, Sunday, I'm on.
Writer next Monday through Thursday. Gelby again. But the angels, they can't convince Shohei right now. They can't look at him and be like, We're committed to winning and then hold on to this greatest trade asset of all time. You know, flub their way to another losing record.
To convince Shohei to win, you have to trade him to get your team better. Yes.
I mean, he won't come back. If this was the NBA and there'd be bird rights and you'd have like an advantage to sign the guy because he was on your team when the previous season concluded, that. Uh-oh, did we just lose part? No, I made Grant Solo just because you and I have been. Chopping up for a little bit, and I just wanted to see on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream.
I win Grant Solo, Danshaney.com. Yeah. So, Grant, Grant, Grant's Grant. Grant just taking the back. Uh-oh.
Oh, no. Brand, you know It actually, you know what? With this version right now, it actually looks like that gif of Jim Carrey from Liar, Liar. Yeah. Hey there you go.
I just want to say, Bart, before we go to Grant, because we are over talking and Grant is under talking. I do think you're overstating the value. that an Otani trade will get for a two-month rental. In your head, you've overinflated it. No.
Yeah. Miller Park sold out every day the next two months. Jerseys fly off the shelves. That doesn't mean that his trade value, I mean, like. Again, Freelick is the home run leader and a top-five pitcher.
You make it, you're going to make it, you're going to paint this as like that. I don't think Otani is. Amazing. He is. He's also a two month rental.
And most MLB teams will not, especially like if you're a big market, if you're the Yankees, the Mets, the Giants, the Dodgers, you can just sign him this offseason and not give up. prospects now. That doesn't always work though.
Well, we've seen that, and I wasn't going to bring this up, but we've seen that in the NBA where it's like the Lakers or the Clippers were going to get Paul George anyways, so they don't trade for him, and then they don't get him.
So I. I agree with you. The Suns or Clippers or Lakers probably felt about Kyrie. But that's the Bird Rights. Trap.
That's why the mavericks It is different. Like, it's the bird rights thing.
Sorry. But that's what I thought of. If you really want Shohei Otani and you think you can sign him long-term, I wouldn't get cute. I would try to acquire him and get him in there, I guess. If I was the GM of 28 teams, I would do it.
If I was the GM of the brewers, I wouldn't do it because you know what would happen if Shohei, if you trade that many things for one guy for two months, you know Shohei is gonna fucking. Snap his pen through his hand when he's signing the contract or some brewery. Suitcase. He'll be packing to come to Milwaukee, and on the way, he'll drop a suitcase on his hand or something. I d I don't find this topic.
Particularly interesting. Like, I don't think it's interesting to be like, should the brewers rent Shoheotani? Because we did that with Cece. I think we have. That guy in the Brewer's history books.
I'm with you too. He's doomed. I know. I'm with you, Paul, that I don't think it'll cost as much as you guys both just drank Mountain Dew at the exact same time.
Someone, please go watch that back on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. No. But no one's drinking this ready bullshit. I don't think he'll cost as much as. What did we think Josh Hayter was going to go for versus what he actually went for?
I know he's not Shohei Otani. But he was the number one reliever and a guy who had all the prestige and the name recognition. And you're like, wait, that's it? I just feel like. guys aren't often traded for as much as we think they're going to be traded for.
I think the most interesting part of the show, Hey Otani. Discussion. Is whether a team like the Mariners or the Orioles or the Diamondbacks or the Reds should make this deal. Right, because they're all teams that have been building things up slowly, doing it the right way. And they could maybe Start their contending window a little bit early and rent Shohei Otani and do what the Brewers did in 2008.
Now, what I find interesting: should another team try to recreate what we had with Cece, the Mariners? I think that would be really fun to watch. I would enjoy watching one of those teams rent Shohei Otani. That would be electric.
So that's kind of what I'm pulling for. Yeah, because we keep picturing Shohei in a... Big market jersey. No, Shohei Otani, you are a Minnesota twin. Yeah, or you're an Oriel.
And it's like, oh, and I don't think it would mean the Orioles have a great young core. They're building it up the right way. They're going to be a good team. And when Shohei leaves in the offseason, if they were to acquire him, I don't think they're all of a sudden going to suck. I just think they would maybe think of, That rental of Shohei, like we think of Cece, like that's when our franchise finally became.
relevant and respectable again. And we needed to break down that wall. And I think the Mariners or the timing backs, it's been so long for some of these teams to have been relevant or in the postseason that I think it might be worth it. That's kind of what I'm pulling for, is for him to go to a team like that. because I'm enjoying watching baseball.
As a whole, and I think a lot of these teams, Mariners, Diamondbacks, Reds-that's a big reason why.
So, I'd like to see him go to one of those teams. All right, good discussion. Yeah. Here's one that Thanks, Mart. Here's where I'll pivot to one that hopefully Grant does find more interesting.
That's not what I meant. That's not what I that's not what I meant. Um I find this trite and arbitrary. I don't think the Brewers are the team, the rental destination, that's most interesting. And I'm a Brewers fan.
I think it'd be cool, but I don't know. I think there are cooler. Oh, it's probably not. Yeah. Okay, league-wide, it's not the most interesting, but.
Yeah. I just want my picture to be Shohei for two weeks. What is the trade deadline? What is the trade deadline? The exact date?
The thirty-first. 31st. All right, I sent you guys a clip. In the last week or so. And I think it was a minor league game, I think is what it was.
where the umpire called a strike. The batter tapped his helmet. The umpire turns around, does a quick, like three-second review. Essentially, the batter challenged. The ball strike.
Tapped his helmet, and like three seconds later, there was a resolution, and the batter was right. It was, in fact, a ball. And you guys, and we we never like I almost never bring up topics that we have Had texts about, but I decided to drop it in the moment because I had to have a long-form conversation about it. And you guys were both like. This is bad.
Like, I don't like this. And I was I haven't been more confused. About, like, wait a minute. I can't possibly be the outlier here that thinks that this is a slam-dunk, no-brainer, great thing that baseball should incorporate. And you guys didn't.
So let me just. Frame it to you this way. Having the batter in Major League Baseball have Challenges. Is bad somehow? Mm-hmm or mm-mm.
Mm-hmm. I don't want that. You're both Fucking insane. Tell me why. Tell me why.
Well, if you it's ain't nothing but a heartache. Tell me why ye. There is nothing but a mistake. Tell me why he. I don't ever want to hear you say that you want it that way again.
Okay, good point. I just I don't want more reviews. I don't want more challenges. I think the NFL has challenges that are good. Like, was his knee down?
Did the toe touch the line before he had control? These are. There's nothing more important than a ball on a strike. These are measurable. These are not judgment calls.
That's why challenges. All the strike is not a judgment call. That's why challenging past interference never. It is not. It absolutely is.
Challenges are insane. Because I don't want it in baseball. The precision of what they have the technology for to within, like, you know, like microscopic. Like detail that where exactly it crossed home plate, if at any portion it crossed home plate, like it is precise. It is not like a subjective call.
Oh, was that a ball or a strike? I'm not sure. It could have gone either way. That's not correct. 'Cause technology took a while to catch up.
Why do you think they took 12 years to make the next avatar? Because technology had to catch up. Oh Christ. Why why why? No, Jesus.
So, when Abner. I am not, I might be in the minority of this conversation, but this I can't possibly be in the grand scheme of baseball fans. This is Abner. And his boys. Abner Doubleday.
Founder of baseball. We're sitting around. The fucking chicken coo. Fucking. How do we like the guy's?
So you're telling me he's going to throw it to me? And then I'm not like It can't just be like, wait till the guy swings for a pitch he likes. There's got to be some system of. We'll call it Balls and strikes. Yeah, yeah, that's great, that's great.
But what is like What is the zone? I don't know, fucking. Chest, knees, somewhere around home plate. Oh, okay. That makes sense.
And now, 150 years later, we're like, it's a precise measurement of this, and it's gonna be in this square, and everything needs to be regulated. I mean, 150 years ago, this sports invented, this guy doesn't know that there's gonna be planes. This guy doesn't know that there's going to be Computers in your pocket. This guy doesn't know that there's going to be ready sports drinks. That have real food as a carb source.
This shit is gross. Ow. Hashtag not an ad. What an ad. What if like three weeks from now, I'm like.
Guys, you know, this ready sports drink is just so f ⁇ ing good. It really refreshes me in the morning. I don't know, Paul. I know, I get your logic. I get your argument.
You probably win in a court of law. You probably went over the public consumption. I'm just saying. That as a person, me I think that there needs to there needs to be. This rush to get sports.
I just want the calls to be perfect. I don't. I want there to be refs, like in soccer, I want there to be refs that. That shouldn't have been a yellow card.
Well, that ref gave it to him because he was pissed about all, like, he doesn't like it as much. As I, there's got to be different. You can't, you can't have robots, ref. You got to have other. Like, I know this ref doesn't like Chris Paul.
That shit's good. No, it's not. No, it is not good. No, it is not. There should not be referee subjectivity that impacts human subjectivity.
Chris Paul plays a different way. Chris Paul goes 0 for 6. Human air, the ref misses six calls. Can't have that. There must be you should never know the referee or the umpire's name.
If you do, it's because they're bad. I am worried about. There never being another Marvel movie made because this writer's strike, these and the actor's strike, the studios are so fucking corrupt. Did you see this tweet I retweeted? That the studios.
They were picketing along this shaded area.
So the studios had all the leaves removed. They cut all the branches of the trees so that there's no shade to march. They're evil. We're already going to lose. Thousands of jobs to computers and AI and automation.
There's people that can't work because all you got to do is drive to the drive-thru and go tap, tap, McChicken. And you want more jobs to be gone because of robots, also that you can sit in your precious fucking. Throne and say, I don't care if my team wins, as long as calls are perfecto. As you lord above us, you mentioned the like a yellow card, red card in soccer. Umpires will still have discretion and subjectivity of, like, oh, well, this umpire or this manager said something I didn't like.
I'm going to eject that. Manager, or like that's that's that's the equivalent of a red card, yellow card. Like, how did someone react to something? But, like, if you're like, I mean, first off, Bart, like, when they invented basketball, did they think there'd be this weird, like, arc thing around called a three-point line? Like, there should be it should be worth two points only.
Like, it's just it's like this will not age well for you. Like. This is bad. Like, yeah, sports evolve. Like, shocking newsbreaker, right there.
Like, this is the right thing to pitchers. We're not throwing 102 miles an hour with spin rates about RPMs and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, it's not an umpire's fault that their eyes, the human eye, is not trained to. Do that anymore. Like the ball is not.
So then, then just be like, eh. You know what, that felt like a ball. That's a. I hate this. It is so stupid.
What a terrible take. You know what, though? I'm not. Performing. I I know you're not performing, which is what makes it worse.
I don't like Rob fucking robots gotta do everything. They challenged a home run call in the... All-Star game, and they got it wrong. That was wrong. That was a home run.
They fucked that up. People forget. Grant. Say more on this. I, for the most part, agree with Bart.
Paul, I think you're so concerned with getting things right. And you're so concerned in perfecting things, you're not considering what this will do. To sports and sports discourse, you want to pave heaven and put up a parking lot, is what you want to do. Yeah, you do. You'll be like, look at all these great parking spots.
Look what we've accomplished. And then you'll start to think, oh, I remember when we used to be able to talk about this. And this. And I remember when Bill Schroeder on the broadcast used to say this funny punchline when the ump would get this wrong. And these are the things that we're gonna lose if we keep striving for progress for the sake of progress.
And I'm not performing either. I think there needs to be a certain human margin of error in sports to keep things in balance. There needs to be a natural ebb and flow between the manager and the dugout who's saying that's fucking terrible and the ump who gives them enough. I think that's a dynamic we need in baseball. I think we need that.
I don't want to lose that. Feel free to cut this next five seconds if you want, but I'm going to say this. My two liberal friends are anti-progressive. In their sports, I'm a world. I'm anti-progressive in sports, and I think I'm also against Bart in this uh writer's actor strike.
I'm on the actors' and writers' side, but also like. Marvel lights $300 million on fire every show they make. And they're like, why aren't people watching? It's because it's the 100th Marvel show that it's played out this year. Not bad.
I'm sure it's not, but maybe they shouldn't have made 200 shows before it to get to Secret Invasion. Maybe people would actually.
Well, that's a bad take. All the shows have been fine. The problem the problem is The problem is they're like featuring not white men. Yeah. Okay, well, now we're troll.
Now we're trolling. Marl's coming out with a superhero. I don't want to watch this teenage girl.
Well, then you don't want to watch Marvel.
Well, that's another thing. We are conditioning people to not be fans of characters or content, but instead be fans of brands. Bart, and we have people like yourself, and it's not a bad thing, but you're a Marvel guy. Marvel can put up three hours of guys just. you know, sitting there twiddling their dicks.
And I'd watch it for the fucking. I love Marvel. That's what I'm saying. I don't continue. I don't want to be a fan of IP or a brand.
I want to be a fan of IP. Aren't you a fan of Bart Winkler's show IP? Yeah. And I don't know yeah, I am. Yeah.
If I put out a week of shit, I was going to say, I think you know that people are fans of your IP, so then you can, you know. You think I'm dogging my content? No, it's not what I'm saying.
Now Mm-hmm. You think I've put out schlock because I know people will come back. No, you've never once on an episode of anything you've ever done been like, oh, I'm. You know, I just can't wait for 10 o'clock or blah blah blah. You know, we're fan.
This is the world in which we're living. We're conditioned. I'm a Star Wars fan, I'm a Marvel fan, I'm a Bart Winkler fan, and I'm going to eat up whatever they serve me because I'm loyal to the brand, and it doesn't really matter if the content is any good. Or if there's too much of it. Yeah, the content is good.
With Marvel, I think the content is good. It might be. Secret Invasion is probably what Andor was to Star Wars. It's like this is actually a unique, good show. The problem is, it's followed so much shit that's just been manufactured to.
Keep us sitting at the table eating.
Well, it was weird because the guy's like. Uh graphics like We gotta pretend to be the Russians and then he has a fucking groot arm. That was weird. I don't know what that means, but. I yeah.
I'm enjoying following the writer's track. Oh, you're on mute. You muted yourself, friend. I don't know how that's happening. Usually a button turns off touch anything.
I'll just say, Bart, you said, no, all the Marvel shows are good, but you can rewind the tape and two minutes ago, you described them as being fine. At which point I was going to chime in and say, well, that's a high bar for something to get Bart to watch. If it's Marvel and it's fine.
So I don't know, is it good or is it fine? Which is it? Huh? Is it the real problem? The real problem with Marvel is that Endgame and Infinity War were so amazing because it was the culmination of a story.
Everyone was there, and then everyone thinks that. WandaVision needs to be infinity war. Like these guys can't tell their own. First off, Wandavision is the best thing Marvel has ever done, period. Wandavision is very good.
WandaVision is fantastic. Falcon in the Winter Soldier, much better than people give credit. Is that similar to Falcon in the Winter Soldier? I was going to say, I'm not forbidden. Loki's great.
No, it wasn't. You didn't like Loki? I watched it because of your recommendation and I did not care I did not care for it at all.
Now it's personal. I didn't like the episode where they were in some fucking time place. What if? Yeah, that one kind of drew. That was a Creed song, and Creed is coming back.
Hawkeye is a lot better than it gives credit for. Moon White and Moon Knight, I can't wait to watch again. Miss Marvo was Good.
Sorry. She-Hulk was Acceptable. Yeah. Guardians was terrific. Ant-Man suck.
The new Ant-Man was fucking trash. First, I liked the first Ant-Man movie, and then the second one I didn't like, and so I just, I'm not going to watch the third. What's next? Packer one, maybe. In the interest of time, yeah.
Packers. I have two NFL. I'm going to start with this one. The non-Jordan Love Packers player. whose name will be said the most slash written the most.
during training camp. The most number of word times that this player's name is written and/or said. In the media. Not Jordan Love. The media starts with me, if you've never heard that before.
It did once or twice. Um. That player will be... And I'm going to use this name because of what Andy Herman said on the Bart Winkler show. Romeo Dobbs will be the most named, most written, most said non-Jordan love player.
Between what July 29th? and the end of training camp. Mm-hmm, or mm-mm that Should Romeo Dobbs be the most... talked about. non-Jordan love Packers player during during during training camp.
Now No, the narrative for training camps have already been set. It'll be AJ Dillon and Aaron Jones. All we care about now is running backs. You got former running backs, current running backs tweeting. Why even run the football if you're not going to pay us respectfully?
Running backs are kind of fucked. It is weird that. Odell Beckham can just Land into 15 million dollars. But if you're a running back. You'd never get a second contract.
But there's gonna be a lot of attention. We very well may not have it. Are either of these guys a running back next year? AJ Dillon, free agent, right? I feel like Jones is probably, no, probably not.
Jones has been probably not for two, three years. I was going to say, but we've thought that the last couple offseasons, yeah. I think A.J. Dillon kind of like ramps up the hey, I love Wisconsin because he knows he ain't as good as he is. He should ramp up playing football because he was very mid last year.
Should we keep A.J. Dillon? Yeah, he wrote a kid's book. Yeah, but. On third and one, he lost two yards.
He fell over when he got touched. He fell forward. Yeah, okay. Yeah. He did fall forward, but.
Dobbs is a good one. You know, I think. I think the running backs will get a lot of attention. I think Bakhtiari is going to spend three weeks talking about how we have to see that Jim Cavizzo movie.
So that'll eat up some fucking time. Um Tim, cut that in post. I can't wait till Bogdiari's out of here. Here's the volume on that. Get him out of here.
Uh I asked you a Batiari trade question like six weeks ago, and you said, mm-mm.
Well, I would trade them.
Something has changed. I want to trade him for Battiari three years ago, not talent-wise, but his brain. You could just mute him and just appreciate his football skills if you'd like, but that's a world where David Bakhtiari never met Aaron Rodgers. I like that world. I can't say more because I've retired from it.
I think it's Christian Watson. personally. I just think he's the guy. Think of young ascending quarterbacks in this league. And it is hard to win in this league.
Let's remember: young ascending quarterbacks in this league who have succeeded. Have been kind of tied at the hip to their wide receiver. Joe Burrow with Jamar Chase and Diggs and Allen and Mahomes and Hill. I just think if Jordan Love is any good at all, Christian Watson is going to be a big part of that. And they need a number one wide receiver.
They need a guy. Even if they have a group of multiple weapons and they're all exciting, they need the guy, they need the number wide receiver one. As folks will refer to him on Twitter. What about kicker one? Kicker one.
Punt return one. I think it'll be Watson. I think there's a lot riding on Christian Watson to go from young, toolsy, flashy, exciting rookie to. Down in and down out, week in and week out, the guy that you can build your offensive. Yeah, I'm not there on him yet.
Really? I think we're going to have to be there on him, is my point. If they want to do anything, exactly like Christian Watson is going to be in a class with like. Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, like relax. Bruce Irons does not speak for the rest of this fan base.
That account sucks. Don't, don't, don't put that on me. Put that on us. Six irons? Don't you put that all evil on me?
Don't try that. I didn't see, did he tweet that stuff? I remember a couple of weeks ago, he was tweeting about how Christian Watson has a higher ceiling than Justin Jefferson. And I'm at work, and I got my Vikings co-workers who were like, the Packers fans really think? And I'm like, but I'm like, yeah, Christian Watson does have a higher ceiling because he's bigger.
But inside, I'm like, I fucking. backups and The worst sometimes, but I'm not hearing that from a Vikings fan. I'll defend my guy. I'll defend my, I'm an owner. But it's stuff like that.
Yeah. But I think Watson, if this team is going to be any better than around 500 and fight for the division, I think Watson has to be that guy. Yeah. Yeah, I think he can be. I just don't.
I think I think we're like Well, Bart, I would say that if if When did uh when did like when did Watson Hit his second half peak like week 10. Or something. When did he have his like insane run? It started like around week 10. If that was like an eight-game season.
And like you literally, your brain was men in black. with the shart with the pen for the first eight, nine games. And all you could ever remember in your brain was those last, the second half of the season, you would think Christian Watson is as good or better than Justin Jefferson or anybody, because those games were. I mean Incredible off the charts, amazing. Like, that is.
He was healthy. That was the difference. And I need to rewatch because, like, he was absurdly elite. We had Devontae Adams. Maybe I'm still thinking of that being the bar.
You um When you told Andy Herman that's a Pete Mukowski job, I... I thought that was really funny, by the way. I thought that was him. I'm not going to go there and track every single play he ever did. I go, yeah, Pete can do that.
Yeah, that's a Pete Mukowski job. That was funny. That was not you mailing in your content. That got a good chuckle out of me. I don't think I I don't think I've Mailed in any of these shows, maybe one.
Which one? I didn't mean to throw accusations. I didn't mean to do that. That wasn't my point. I'm just even mailed in.
Sometimes I just don't have good content. There really hasn't been much going on the last two weeks. I'm aware. I am. Yeah, I need football season.
I don't, I don't need it. I need it right now. I need it right now. We need this. My family needs this.
Your family might actually, well, no. Not barely needs it. I think the only thing you ever mailed in. I'm piping up this Otani Brewer shit just to maybe scratch a few listeners. I don't believe that shit.
I don't want him here. Fuck him. Just kidding. Bart, did you get any other messages from people? Like, what was the reaction to how?
Absurdly scared you were being in the brewer's parking lot. Like, what other comments or voicemails have you gotten about? you because That should have that episode should have come with a trigger warning for people like me because, like, I was.
So anxious. It made me, it put me like, I was nervous listening to it because he was nervous. Yes, and trust me, you gave that impression. Don't worry. What were some of the other comments or feedback you got from your um episode there.
Uh That thing was going nowhere fast, and then Tim Allen saved the day. I don't think it was going nowhere fast. Unless more people would have come up to you and asked you for directions to Harley Fest. That was the best part up until that. Just follow the hogs.
That's what I would have told them. Tim did put me at ease though. Mm-hmm. Tim Allen did, yeah. I related to you because I am the guy who's not a rule breaker, naturally, even like.
Minor rules. And I'll like when we would go ding-dong ditching in my youth. I was never calmed. I was always on edge. I was always uneasy.
Like, if someone came up to me and said, hey, you can't do that. I would have been like, I understand. But if a guy goes, you can't buy your liquor anywhere but right here, I don't understand. I don't want to do that. He says, Yeah, so I would, I'll be honest, Barry, like, I'm not saying.
If you said, hey, you want to go record an episode in the Miller Park? Oh, God, I did it. You've got me doing it. Do it.
So then just go finish it. It's fine. I'll call it in the brewer's parking lot. I would have said no because I don't know if that's allowed.
So I'm not, I also would have, I just would have not done it, even though it's probably totally fine. But if I did do it, I probably would not have spent the first 30 minutes verbalizing my concern after minute. All right, I have one more topic for you.
Well, IG, I'm sorry. I'll send you all my shows before I post them. I just was surprised you kept going. By the way, were you? I saw the clip, obviously, that you posted on Twitter to promote that episode.
When that woman came up to you looking for directions, were you already outside on the lawn chairs? At that point, we were recording the show. Yes.
What I the way that you Because I heard the c I heard the episode before I saw the video And the way you described it in the podcast episode was You said she really had no questions about the fact that we're sitting like this. And I pictured, I don't know why, but I think it's why you described it. I pictured you and Tim in the back seat of your car. Oh, I said backseat in my car, yeah. You okay, you did.
Okay, so I'm not making that up. You said, so I was like. Yet she should have had questions like But if you're just like outside of lawn chairs, then it makes sense. Last one for you. The New York Jets are officially on hard knocks.
I will, I will, I see your luck. I will editorialize and say, I haven't, I'm trying to, I don't think there's been a time in recent years. where I have left Hard knocks. rooting for the team that was on hard knocks. It's edited in a way.
That makes you root for the Hard Knocks team. You are worried. Hardnox is gonna get you to root. For the Aaron Rodgers led New York Jets. Maybe, and for those of you who would have rooted anyway, right?
Because I'm talking to the audience, especially Bart here, because I know how anti- QB he is. But like it's gonna get you to root for The Jets more. Like, you're going to become like a Jets fan if you were, if you were already kind of a pro Rodgers guy. But for the sake of Bart and Grant. You're worried a little bit that Hardnox is going to.
Turn you into a pro-Jets. 2023 season. Fan. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm.
I don't think so. I'm not like anti passionately rooting against the Jets. I also, going into Hard Knocks hasn't started yet. I hear the comments from Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Williams and Rogers and Garrett Wilson. A lot of these guys who've been in the NFL for two, three years at the most, and have never won anything, and they're like Super Bowl this year.
You know what what You know, we're adding another trophy to the trophy case. It's like, okay, you guys will be lucky to have a very good season and maybe win a playoff game. Wow. And I kind of want that reality to smack these guys across the face.
So I'm looking for that a little bit. I'm also not rooting for Rodgers to fail miserably. The story of the Jets and someone within the Jets, don't know who, but they don't want to show players getting cut. because it's dehumanizing. Um I promise you where that came from.
I have a good idea. It sounds like... That sounds familiar.
Sounds like maybe we maybe know where that came from. Don't want to assume, but again, it sounds familiar. I don't think it's going to make me cheer for the Jets, but I'm absolutely going to watch every second because I think it's going to be very, very interesting. I think it's going to be electric. Bart, before you answer, grant, like, if there's a very like...
And there will be Rogers Centric episode. How much of that do you think will make its way onto the Wisco Sports show? How much of that do you think will make it onto the statewide network that you produce? Like, how much. How much will this increase Rogers talk?
On your radio shows? Probably a lot of both. I mean, there's not a lot going on with the Jordan Love Packers, they are not an interesting team, which I think is good. And I think that's what Packers fans have wanted. We didn't want the drama.
Yeah. I don't really have anything to say about this Packers team until the season starts. I'll talk about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets on hard knocks, not obsessively. Like, I will admit that Aaron Rodgers is interesting to talk about and makes for good talk radio. I'm not going to deny that.
I'm sure we'll talk about it on both shows that I'm on 100%. Yeah. Real quick, Bart, because I know Bart's going to delay. I'm not sure how he's going to take this answer anyway.
So, Grant, let me just ask you: do you typically leave Hard Knocks liking that team, rooting for that team a lot, a little? Not really. I probably average an episode and a half of Hard Knocks a year. I almost never watch the whole thing. Whoa!
I, for the most part, lose interest. Wow. You got to like documentaries.
Now I got to watch this quarterback thing. God. I'm not going to watch the quarterback thing. I didn't like Derek Carr and Antonio Brown. I remember the Raiders.
Um, I liked Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys when they were on it a couple of years ago. Uh, the Li I liked the Lions, I guess, fine enough, but I probably would have liked those teams anyways. I think Hard Knox needs the Jets more than the Jets. Like, Hard Knocks, who cares? Everybody's creating their own content.
Hard Knox is. Yesterday's fucking news. it might be trending that way. Yeah. I just said this about like this is why I wanted off the ride.
And even if there's like good or bad, even if this is not about criticizing Rogers, but when you have Rogers, you can't just watch football week to week. We have to like Invest yourself in hard knocks now and like know what's going on. But also, like, you know, Bart the last couple of weeks, there hasn't been anything to talk about. I don't think that's always a bad thing. Like, a team.
Team hard knocks is on. Like, I got Aaron Rodgers now, like. Towards the end, I'd almost like watch McAfee's show being like, What's he gonna say? What's he gonna say? What's he gonna say?
What's he gonna say? And I would watch, like, come on, give me. One thing that's going to be a good topic for a half hour. It's not, it's not the because you want, because McAfee was pregame for you. It was in the middle of the middle of the middle Like your show.
Could immediately react to McAfee's show. Mine, I had to watch everybody talk about it for a day and then get in the next morning. Oh, and in the timeline of the internet, that's forever. You know, if he says something at 1:30 in the afternoon and you come on the next day at 8 a.m. and talk about it, you are so behind through no fault of your own.
But that's an eternity in time of the internet. Do you have to do that? Um Yeah, I'm here. I would say I'm curious about. Seen the Jets.
I would have. I think if you're a Packers fan, the only thing you absolutely, if you're a Rogers fan, great, root for Rogers. But the only thing you should. Truly, Packers-centric to be focused on is that Rodgers needs to play 65% of the snaps. That's the magic number.
Don't forget about this just because we're a little bit. What? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? There's no trade thing like that, is there?
Yes, there is. The Packers get the first-round pick if Rodgers plays 65% of the snaps. Oh, okay. It wasn't based on. Winning.
No. Percents you don't remember this? I thought there was something in there where like we don't have to worry about it at all. No, it becomes a 2024 first-round pick that the Packers acquire. If Rogers plays 65% of the snaps.
And that's it. That's the only qualifier. All right. Well, that sucks. Uh I mean it's It's not like Brian Ference at Iowa, where it's 24 points a game and we're going to need to closely monitor it to see if he gets fired.
Like 65% of the snaps, if he's the starting quarterback. For by and large, most of the season is going to happen.
So it's not like we need to watch it closely and do math and follow along. I don't think there's anything. I didn't want to reasonably watch it at all. You know. I think the thing is like Bart, you're gonna want to if you're not watching Hard Knocks live You, for your sanity, Bart, you are going to want to avoid Twitter between what, 8 and 9 p.m.
8 and 9 p.m. Central Time on Sunday nights. And what I told the coworker yesterday, because, you know, well, the Jets have final say, what goes into it. You know, they get to look at the final audit and make sure nothing goes. Yeah, but.
We're just a couple of years removed from the Jets letting their quarterback, who was mic'd up, say on national television that he was seeing ghosts. Like, the Jets have had final sayover content before and completely. Botched it.
So Fingers crossed, they do it again. Also, I'm not sure, I don't love Robert Sala. I'm not sure I'm cheering for this coaching staff. I think they've been awful and dysfunctional for years, and now they have Rogers. And it's like the bully has come over to their side now on the playground, and they're like, Yeah, what the fuck is up?
Yeah, what are you going to say now? It's like, I'm pretty sure you're still an ass coach. I'm not convinced that any of you are great at your jobs. And I kind of want to. I kind of want to see that.
Come back to bite him in the butt. By the way, the secondary thing that could happen as a result of all of this is if the Packers do. have a Well Less than impressive regular season, and they don't make the play. The Packers could be the 2024 Hardknocks team with. You know, with quite ease, as long as they don't fire the floor, you can't.
The Hard Knocks team cannot be a team that changed coaches in the offseason. But that'd be great. The I mean that would be and that by the way that would be truly then Mark Murphy's parting gift. Is it Max?
Well, that was because he would retire in July of 24, I think, is Murphy's retirement date.
So it would be like. As yeah, that would probably be part of the story. Part of the hard knocks. But the Packers make the playoffs. No hard knocks.
So yeah. That's the rule. Do it for HBO. Right. I think, do you guys know those really?
It has to be a non-playoff team who doesn't change coaches. Is that the qualifier? Yeah. Two losing seasons in a row.
So it could have been the Packers this year. Good for the NFL and good for Roger Goodell. No, because they made the play. You need to miss the playoffs two seasons in a row. Two seasons in a row.
Yeah. Tuesday. Any team can have a bad year, but in order to be hard knock spotter, you got to, you know. No, but is that the real is that a real qualifier? You have to lose a two?
I think so.
Okay, I didn't know if it was one or two.
Okay, good to know.
Well, so then I'm right. Yeah, then the Packers could be if they miss the playoffs. Will be, let's face it. Like the Packers, even if they're still the Green Bay Packers, like they. They will be coveted as the hard knocks team the moment that they're eligible, which they've not been eligible.
Since Grant was a toddler. Probably before, honestly. When did Hard Knock start? Like late 90s, early 2000s? 2001 or 2?
Yeah. Yep.
All right, guys. I'm like nervous crannis to go to his real job.
So, yep, I'm good. I got every, I got all my questions. Thorpe, this was a good podcast. I'm going to say. Yeah.
I felt good like It was a weird, unexpected pick-me-up grant last week. You texted afterwards, you said, that was a really good episode. I was like, All right, good. All right, good. Craig, was that?
Oh, that's right. That was the Craig one. I got so The number of Yeah. How many comments did you get about the Craig stuff? Because I got more than the fair share of.
things that came my way. Craig, do you agree to Bob Iger that that Marvel's making too many T V shows? I I kind of like Antman. Myself. Yeah, but didn't need to be.
It's just Paul Rudd. I do need to go. That's the sucker for Paul Rose. Bye, Grant. Bye.
Light ball. See you buddy. Wait. Yeah. Yes.
Do you have two minutes? Get it. The Milwaukee Pro Soccer has come down to their final 10 names. It will be one of these 10.
Okay. Let me just throw it at you quick, each name and tell me what you think.
Okay. And I will also give you my real thought.
Okay. And I'll be PA guy. Welcome to tonight's match, the Milwaukee Tall Boys. No. Yeah.
People love that one. People love that one more than any other name that we've. No, I mean, you know, I don't drink, but my concern would be. You're going to want to appeal to families, right? Yeah, I don't know.
I mean sure a bunch of boarders can be called the tall boys or something. What can? Like a section of supporters, like there can be a little group, yeah, that's fine, it's fine. But I mean, I would want to market it to kids.
So, what's a tall boy? Why are they the tall boys? That's not a good idea, not a good idea. Taking the field is Goodland FC. Yes.
I don't love it, but I'm okay with it. Taking the field tonight, the Milwaukee Barons. Yeah. That's got an alcohol connotation. I don't even know what I don't even know what Baron is like Baron, like a flight?
Well, maybe beer Barons, you know, back in the day with Prohibition. Yeah, I don't really know enough about what a Baron is or isn't, but it's already like a group that is called the Milwaukee Barons. It's just like, hey, we support Milwaukee soccer. We're the Barons.
So there's like some history to it. I don't know Barons.
Okay. Milwaukee Brigade. What is that? What's the per point? What is that?
The brigade? Yeah, is that a Milwaukee thing that I don't know about? Hello.
So I'm going to say no. The Milwaukee Iron. That was the football team? for two seasons. No, I'd want my own.
I'd want my own name. Fresh coast. I don't get it. Why? Because we're on the coast at Lake Michigan.
Why is it the fresh coast? Because it's not the west coast. Or is it because it's is it It's not freshwater. Is the lake freshwater? Yes.
It is?
Sorry, I don't know these things. Salt water is the ocean. Is fresh water the lake?
Well, and Salt Lake City's salt. Yeah. Okay, I I think it's okay. Cream City. Just Cream City?
F C I don't want Cream City. I didn't know the story about Cream City brick until the Bucks changed their colors for 800 years. Right. So I'll say I'll pass on that. Milwaukee Industrial.
I w I wouldn't. I wouldn't. eighteen forty six Milwaukee. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go on.
Yeah. Lake Effect FC. Yeah. I do like I do like Leak effect is really good. I do, I like because when we talked about Lake Effect, there wasn't the FC on it, and it needs something.
And I think it got that something.
So, yeah, I like it. All right, those are the 10.
So, wait, what were the ones that we read?
So, Lake Effect FC, The Barons is okay. 1846 Milwaukee, Goodland. 1846 Milwaukee. Yeah, Goodland's okay. Um Do they know like what like the Is the mascot or like the nickname a totally different conversation?
Yeah. No, I think what might happen is they could even combine names from this. It could be the Iron Brigade. And then There's like the tall boys are the fucking Fake nickname, but then the real nickname is like. The Barons, or something, you know, a lot of these, I don't think it's just gonna be one thing.
I think the branding and what will happen is. A lot of this will be used in some way. Sure. Like forward Madison. Which is, I think, is a great name.
Yeah. They're the flamingos. And then they call their supporters the flak. stuff like that. Is that not public yet?
What? Those final ten names? Oh no, it was tweeted. I don't they don't I don't know. I got no insight here.
Okay. I'm like, hey, what's so what? What do you think the name's going to be? And they're like, Just Don't ask me that, please. Yeah, I wish I would have known that before we did this show.
Um Yeah. But it was denounced during the show. Oh, it's literally, it is breaking news.
Okay. So I'm doing it to you immediately. But now let's go. What's that?
Now you can let me go.
Sounds good.
Now we're going to the show. Feel free to. Are you okay with the part where I said my two liberal friends are anti-progressive?
Well, not only am I keeping that and I'm keeping this in. I'm still recording. Oh, you are, aren't you? Yeah. Oh, I didn't I swear I did not know you were still recording.
I'm not liberal. What are you? I don't define myself as liberal. I define myself as someone. Common sense who Wants people to not die and thinks that everyone should have an equal shot at trying to make it in this country.
Now, do all of my beliefs line up to be a super lib? Yeah, they might. But I don't say that I'm liberal. And with that, good night. Tax Day is coming.
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