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Grant, Paul and Bart discuss Aaron Rodgers, Christian Watson, the Packers defense, and how Brewers fans should be feeling about David Stearns new job

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September 14, 2023 6:00 am

Grant, Paul and Bart discuss Aaron Rodgers, Christian Watson, the Packers defense, and how Brewers fans should be feeling about David Stearns new job

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September 14, 2023 6:00 am

Bart Winkler and his guests discuss various topics, including Aaron Rodgers' potential return to the NFL, Christian Watson's injury concerns, and David Stearns' legacy as the Brewers' GM. They also share their opinions on John Cena and the Packers' chances in the upcoming season.

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DILA Good morning, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. Grand Bills. Nice. Paul and Mm-hmm.

Still, you're still going with Cena fan on your name tag if you're seeing this on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. Mm-hmm. Did you see the great video I I R T'd about Cena? No.

So John Cena. Grant, you'll enjoy this story too. The historian you are. Uh John Cena. Gave this interview.

It's this show Ruthless Aggression. He's like, My career was done. I was done. I was going to get fired. I was informed.

That at Christmas time I was part of the cuts. And then they had this European tour. And on the European tour. They all Take the same bus And Ray Mysterio, he said in Rikishi, We're like freestyling on the bus. And seeing a good idea.

I do know this story. Yeah, Cena goes. I thought What the hell? I'll go back there and do it. And so he was freestyling and the whole bus was going crazy.

And then Stephanie McMahon was on the bus. And she's like How did you do that?

Well, how did you remember to say all those things? He said, I was freestyling. You don't remember, you just do it. And she goes, do one about me.

So you did one about her. And she goes, Do you want to do that on the next show? And he did it on the next show. And he dressed up in this weird outfit and he did it. People respond to it, and that's how the freestyle rapper was born.

Which kept him on the roster. And then turned them eventually to. the the greatest technical wrestler of all time. All right, well, shut up.

Okay. Just kidding about that part.

Okay. The greatest sports entertainer we've ever known. That's also nonsense. The greatest make-a-wish giver of history. That's absolutely true.

Are you not a Cena guy? Because every time that Paul is like Cena, Cena, it implies that you are not Bart. Paul is so like people like Cena, people don't like Cena. And I used to not like Cena for a long time. And then, you know, I get excited when he's coming to Milwaukee, I'll go.

But Paul's like Paul, this is actually the most Disdain I've ever seen Paul feel for a person. Let me be clear. The disdain is for the character. Not the man.

Well, the man might be even weirder. The I don't like them. You know what? Let me take that back. The heavy disdain is for the character.

I also have. A bit of disdain for the man. Did you see, like, have you seen those videos? I've never watched whatever that reality show was, but you might have seen in the same algorithm the clip of Cena's house rules. Like, if you go into his house and, like, Like you will respect the table.

By doing this, you will respect my house by doing this. You have a curfew, you have to make your bed, you gotta. After dinner, the men will retreat to the cigar room. After dinner, the women will retreat to the something. It's like, What?

Yeah. There's a Yeah, very strong Aaron Rodgers vibes coming from him. Oh. But I mean, again, this is what's so hard because, like, Bart will kind of trash Rogers and then he'll pick, but he does some really great things for some people. Cena does some really, really great things for kids.

And I totally get being five, six, four years old and. And admiring the character as well. It makes total sense. But when a 39-year-old man is like, wow, Cena. And I'm like, what?

What is going on? That's what parts. Why are we talking about this? This is after week one. We should.

Your name says Cena. This is to help remind you that you're supposed to get in touch with Hot Tate Jake and other. Wrestling aficionados, so we can have a wrestling episode. On the Bart Winkler show. We'll do that later.

Sorry to everyone that. Sat through John Cena talk. I mean, I enjoy it, but I just think we should do this in long form sometime soon. All right, so week one, we'll get into that discussion. Yeah.

Um I do I do want to give a special Thanks again to Romy McLough. Who is back in our universe? He was on my Wednesday show. Oh wow. And before it's a very It's a very typical Barton Rami.

experience. If you like that sort of thing, you're going to get it. Um If you don't. Why are you here? The other thing is before we went on air we were talking 'cause he's back in Milwaukee and you know he's trying to figure out the next stage of his life And I was telling him, like, yeah, Rami, the.

The craziest thing about my situation is A lot of we all lost our job, right? The station that we worked for. went away. But where everybody else has been able to like Oh, there's other places I could maybe at least fill in or whatever. I told him I essentially got fired three times.

Because I got fired when I got fired from 1250 or however you want to say it, laid off, whatever. I essentially just got fired because I was, I put all my eggs into 1250. You did. And I rallied for it. And that meant taking shots elsewhere.

I never thought about anything else. other than 1250. And That's why on a Wednesday morning in September of 2023. Uh I'm talking to two of my favorite dudes. At eight o'clock in the morning to post for a podcast in the next 24 hours.

So sounds like it worked out pretty well. I'm good. I'm doing fine. The CVS stuff is good. I don't know.

I'm on Saturdays now throughout the fall. Although there's three Saturdays in a row where I can't work, so it's going to be like. Brother, can you spare a dorm?

Okay. Fuck. The best ability is availability, Bart. But I have to give my availability to the Steve. Oh, yeah.

Because last Saturday I did the four, I did the five-hour show, got right in my car, drove right to the Steve. And then did the PA, which was a very tiring day, but. Ya boy. But now they have games at like six and five. And I just can't make it, so.

So wait, which which are you choosing? I have to I choose the commitment I gave first. Which was the Steve? Mm. Yeah.

That's what that's what I think that's what any grown man would do. A man is only as good as his word, and you gave your word to the Steve before you gave it to CBS. That's correct. I also gave my word. Transition.

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Okay, well I've decided not to go there yet. Yeah, never let your kids know about death. Why did you do that? Because his He doesn't know one of his grandpas, and so I wanted to. have him at least know who he was.

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You need indeed. Okay. Um I guess I guess we'll talk next week. I have I'm good. I always bring an extra amount of questions just in case.

But I definitely have three Packers questions, one Aaron Rodgers question, and we are definitely going to conclude with a David Stearns question.

So, for those thinking we're going to ignore Brewers. I don't know how much you've hit on it yet, Bart. By the time this airs. But I want to have a good David Stearns discussion at the end.

Okay, I do. I have a solid Stearns take at least.

Okay, good. All right. We'll save that for, that'll be our last question here at the end. You want to start Rogers or Packers? Ah boy.

We might as well start Rogers while we can, all right, guys? Yeah. Let's do it. That is true, actually. It will go away.

Yeah, the content will be going away. And just to think all those months that you lost out on not making Aaron Rodgers content, only to have it all disappear. Yeah. I'm trying to catch up. My real take this week.

is defending those that cheered at the bar. They cheered for their tab. They cheered for their tab. Yep. I guarantee you, Aaron Rodgers will misconstrue that significantly.

Just like he suggested. Oh, I never thought about it getting back to him. Oh, he's going to have a shitfit about it. Wow, I never thought about it getting back, because this is what happens. You know, this was a Milwaukee story.

Jackson Brady. Eastside. And then it's a gold package crowd, all of them. That's the problem. No, no, don't be that way.

So, but what happened was that was a Monday night Tuesday story. And then They did it. Tuesday night, it started to be a national story. And then Wednesday it's going to be still in the news. Yep.

So we're already like, all right, we've seen this. And now you got everybody, the Rex Chapmans of the world, got it. Aggregate content on it, and now they're gonna. Yeah, well, from there, when does he go on McAfee? He has me blocked.

I don't see any of his stuff. Is he going on at some point this week? I don't know. He didn't go on Tuesday. If he went on Wednesday, I'm.

Tim can edit. That in, but sure, in post. McAfee's got to be pissed. As a content creator, McAfee also has Nick Saban Thursdays, and Saban goes to Texas and gets his ass kicked. Yeah, that's tough.

Is there an ESPN McAfee curse? Four one four seven nine nine That's why the Wisco Sports Show doesn't put all its eggs in player basket. Players come and go. You know, we're building something on my show. We're building something that's not week to week, season to season.

Yeah. Parrot Sports Media wrote an article about that. Yeah. Oh, BSM. All right.

I have two Rogers questions. Was curious which one I wanted to lead with. I'm going to ask you this one first. I like to put a little hypothetical on the front of this just to give it some. Fake stakes.

You get a million dollars if you get this right. Oh, this will totally change the way you answer it. But Let's just pretend. Aaron Rodgers has played his last snap in the NFL. Mm-hmm.

Or mm-mm. Uh I'm gonna say Okay, so the the best Who said this? Uh It was cowherd. I was listening to Coward the other day while I was sitting in line for an admissions test. For an hour.

And then I had nowhere to go, and I just left. The waiting was killing me. The waiting is the hardest part. Ah, you took it right off my tongue. You did.

But I was listening, he goes. Rogers is a... Rogers is a like. He's gonna take this as a sign that he shouldn't have played for another team. And he's going to retire.

And I don't think that's the case. He's going to be back around the team. You know, he is invested in the team. He, The rehab is going to be the hard part, but We're all acting like... I don't know because he's 39, he's going to be 40.

I know this is a tough injury. If this happened when he was 35, I think we'd be like, oh, boy. It's gonna be tough. But at 39, everybody's just writing him off. I think he plays again.

I don't think he. This is not how he wants to go out. And this is not how I want him to go out. I still need to watch him be bad. I'm really bummed we're not getting Rogers McCarthy this week.

Yeah. Yeah. Although in my splash sports pool The Cowboys are my automatic Survivor.

Some people like to save survivors. I don't. Take the team you know is going to win. I'm all in on the Cowboys this year. They're my Super Bowl pick.

I love Dallas. No, here's what I was saying on the last show I was doing on CBS, I said. I want to make this very clear to everybody listening. I said. I am not a Dallas Cowboys fan.

At all. But I love watching them play, and when I watch them play, I root for them to win. Yeah. But I'm not a fan. But that's how I feel about the Cowboys.

So I think. With a million dollars on the line. Which I would of course give to charity. Mm-hmm. I would say he plays again.

Grant. Aaron Rodgers has played his last snap in the NFL. Million dollars on the line. I would also give it to charity. But you know what they say?

Charity starts at home.

So when I say I'd give it to charity, that's what I mean. This is hard. I feel like he plays again two. If this injury would have happened in, well, maybe it wouldn't make a difference, but let's say this injury would have happened in. Like almost after a full season, or at the beginning of year two in New York, sure, but it was four snaps in.

Yeah. It leaves such an awkward footnote at the end of his career if this is where it ends. And I think Rogers is. A historian of his own career, and I think he's very aware of his legacy. And I would be too if I were him.

That's not a negative at all. You're very, very aware. Yes. Yeah. So I think he comes back.

What are the Jets gonna do? Force him out? For Zach Wilson, yeah, but listen.

Well, we don't know that yet. We assume that, I mean. I would definitely put my million on the fact that Zach Wilson is not going to suddenly become number two overall pick quality caliber quarterback. But He had a full season to try it again. But I would say that.

The Jets have not yet experienced. Disgruntled offseason Aaron Rodgers. Up until this point, they experienced. Happy go lucky.

So, like, this, everything is wonderful, Aaron Rodgers. And there's only one person. that that story could have come from about how he hates the cut block plays. One person could have known that. And he had that shit ready to fire off to those reporters.

amidst his MRI. Yeah. Buckle in. Jets fans, for disgruntled Aaron, for pissed off Aaron, for the guy that thinks you wronged him, Aaron. Yeah, that was so like that that.

Just when you're kind of feeling bad for the guy, that comes up. He fires off those texts. I told you guys, reporters. Those cutback plays, and that's what just ended my career. That's what just ended my season.

Can we talk about this for two or three minutes? I wasn't going to bring this up on my show to react when this happened, but I felt like this report made it okay. It's like the fact that this came out kind of opened the door, I thought, to talk about this. Why does Rodgers want to extend the play? Why does he want to hold the ball?

He's for me. This is what drove me nuts about the about like it's what made him magical, right? Like, it's that was that is Aaron Rodgers. Like, there are so many things that make his legacy what it is and was and will be. But Dude, like you're three months from 40.

You know, and everyone knows that your offensive line is bad. And I think this is what, like, this, like, when people push back, or when they say the thing about, well, we're finally going to see the Matt LaFleur offense. Yeah, because just take what's there, throw the freaking ball, and go to the next play. Like, not everything needs to be a highlight. I totally agree, Grant.

You don't need to extend the play. This is not what you should be doing. What are you thinking? There was a point in Rogers where he started to look at every play. We've talked about this where he.

He doesn't A nine play. 80-yard drive that takes eight minutes. Or 12 play, 13. That's not exciting. him.

Right. Big play, like in Madden, when you're bored, you played three games of Madden and you're very focused. And by your fourth game, you're like, Uh you know. And he plays in that way. He plays in that way.

Another thing about this whole thing is now Rodgers has become like. Oh, Rogers went down?

Well fuck. We got to burn every last piece of turf that exists on this planet.

So now that's a whole story. It is. I think all fields should be grass, too. But I feel because that's what all the players say. Like, I don't know that we necessarily need a massive injury.

Well, David Bakhtiari said it very loudly right away. And then. you know, David Bakhtiari Shadow Chaser, Kurt Benkert. then quickly said it as well. To those, you see his tweet, to those asking.

Uh, why I won't be a quarterback again. It's because the memes would stop. It's like Magic Johnson. Remember when he wanted to step away from the Lakers for an office, and part of the one of the reasons was he couldn't tweet, he couldn't talk about basketball. That was a thing.

I almost forgot about that. But correct. Correct on Rodgers. I always say there's a million different examples of him making football harder than it needs to be. Yep.

And it's what made him unbelievable to watch, but I also think it's what's held him back in some of the biggest moments. And this injury, I'm not saying that's why he got hurt. He could have got hurt on any play. It's just the fact that that little report came out, in my opinion, opened the door to talk about. One of Rogers' flaws.

And I think his biggest flaw that's held him back in the biggest moments. It hasn't held him back against the Bears or in the regular season, but against the best teams, it gets him. In the big moments. Yeah. So I'm going to go with the, I'm going to, we'll do a chorus of agreement.

Has Aaron Aaron Rodgers has played his last snap in the NFL? They're not a chorus. No, it was good. You guys did pretty good harmony. No no He has not played his last snap.

he won't let that be it. I just don't think there's You know, there's just no way you guys, can I, can we, can we? Can I tell you guys something? Sure, Bart. Can we break it down?

Like... Break it down! I wanna Yeah, I've always been a very open and honest guy. If this is a happy place, I'm better. that he's setting up.

This one is not.

Okay. This is an ad for 4Golf, which is what I had on FourGolfapparel.com. Use the promo code BARD for 10% off. Great shirts, especially if you need shirts for a golf outing with a bunch of guys. No, uh.

This is, I want to talk about. I want to talk about this is real. Yeah. Sounds real. I want to talk about the role Kurt Benkert's playing in my life.

Um Is he a sexual partner? Because that's the only thing this music is making me. Think about that's where this is going If you're a sexual partner with Kirk Benkert, the discreet packaging of 4hin.com. Go. Kurt Banker I don't I'm really trying to not be an asshole.

Yeah. anymore. Everybody out there is doing their own thing. And they don't need I don't need to be the gatekeeper of content.

Some role I thought that I was born to play. People are gonna do what they're gonna do on this frequency. They're going to do what they're going to do on that. They're going to do what they're going to do on that podcast. They're going to do what they're going to do with that account.

And I look at Kurt. And I gotta remember, he's just like a 26-year-old kid. Trying to make it whatever, you know, he's just trying to take the talent he has. And sometimes he tweets shit that's so. I just want to attack them.

And I gotta get over that.

So, Kurt. If you're listening. I'm not attacking you. And you're like, who's this guy? You're right.

I played three less snaps than you in football. I'm a nobody. Bye. I'm really using you. You're you're like my muse.

So notice, I want you guys to know. Every time you see Kurt Banker with a tweet. And you think to yourself, Man. Weird tweet, but you move on with your life. Know that I like montage the rest of my evening at different corners of my bedroom.

just like thinking about the tweet and trying to figure out Why this will be the tweet that ends me. Yeah. So I am really struggling right now. with Kurt Banker. That song's pretty catchy.

Actually, I I might have to go find that. It's called Night Driving, available on StreamYard. And notice grant I'm $25 a month. Notice how he faded it out, like because we gave him critical feedback. There's some shows.

in your market It's just First of all, first of all. You don't need a song to play you out at the end of every segment unless it's a hard time. That is a bad practice. Thank you. The now, a little inside baseball, at the end of the hour, right?

You are hard synced. You are out.

So, what you do is you talk until there's like 10 seconds-ish left, and then you pot up the music so you don't get cut off. That is different than let's take a break. Here's a song, I'm gonna let it play for you. If you're talking about it and like a song comes up organically, and like you're taught, let's say this is real, real rudimentary, but. You went to the Rose Bowl and you stayed in this bad hotel.

And, you know, and then at the end, the producer's like, And then he plays a little bit of Hotel California going out of the break. Very, I mean, that's the kind of stuff you look for. But if you just do like, All right, the Brewers, you know, they lose whatever. The big win. All right, we'll come on back.

And then it's fucking bulls on parade out of nowhere. I swear to you. I was about to start singing Bulls on Parade. I was about to go, BANE OL! Bat bat oh.

And I was like That is so wild that you also win. It works for some shows, you know. The more slapping, no, it doesn't. But also, I know your tones at this point, Grant. Like, it works for some shows that you do like this, like, where I know you're lying, you don't really believe what you say.

There are some shows that it works better, it's still not my thing, but it's not like a travesty on some shows. But there's one show in particular that I'm thinking of where they don't ramp it, you don't hear it leading up because you can use it as a cue. It's like, oh, there's a break coming. But there's one show where it's like, and we'll be back. Zero to 10.

And now Jason Derulo is playing. That's what do we don't need. No, you're you probably stick to your tight time codes, even on the Wisco sports show when you're not on the statewide network. Like, because you were saying, oh, like you have hard, you have hard stop rates at the top of the hour. Try telling that to Wednesday's guest, Ramy Makloff.

Who you have like the two o'clock big show hour would go until 3:15, and then the three o'clock hour would be from 3:22 to 4:19. There was no, I played fast and loose with segments. But I always respected the top of the hour. Yeah. The big show never once got out on time.

I'm 100% with Bart. I didn't take my second break of the hour, my bottom of the hour break. I waited until we were done with Mike Clemens. I took it at like 48. But come 59.

I was there and I correctly ramped. I ramped that final segment, but not the others. That's why you're pro. That's why you're. I'm going to go get another splash of coffee.

It's just right, I'm not going far, so I can hear. I don't need to do it.

Well, then, I'm just going to tell you about happyplacehemp.com. Happy PlayStam.com promo code. Bart for 25% off each and every order. And it does come. Yeah.

In discreet packaging. Why? You ask?

Well, if you get a box. That says happy place hemp on it.

Someone's going to steal it. Very easily. You don't want that. It's a nice little white box. Fix your things.

Free. Free. Oh my god. Grant dancing, I'm dying. Happy BloodShemp.com.

Free shipping. 2625 Tim Shea edit cough. Yeah. Okay, so we're doing something with the, I can't say the team. but I can say the Green Bay football team.

And this will be a long-term play.

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Of how many times Green Bay wins. Because each win is going to be another percent. And at the end of the season, If they win seven games. 7 plus 25, we're going to do a week of 32% off.

Okay. The guy goes What if they go undefeated? And then I sent them a gift of going out of business. Because I mean, those prices would be so. We're hoping for like eight, nine, ten wins.

Get like a 33, 34, 35% towards the end of the year. And then once the new year turns, once the season's over. You can just stock up for the winner. But don't not get your. I mean, you need supply until then.

So. 25% off. Happy place, hemp. Come. Grant, very smooth hips.

Well, I had a wedding this last weekend. Less is more on the dance floor. Those men who do less is more like in hitch. I might have to introduce this music into the uh Amen. No.

Going blur verse? Into the wing clerb. This is, I wasn't messing around. I wanna go find what the song is. This intrigues me.

We for is going now as long as we have We should have another topic or two. All right, ready? All right. I'm gonna ask you if this is good that you get You get a 10 second You get a 10-second response only, and then I'm going to move down past Rogers. This was my other topic that I was toying with.

We already did a big Rogers topic, so this is gonna be just you get 10 seconds or less on a scale between ha. Ha ha and aw. with Rogers Your honest reaction on Monday night was closer to what? You don't get the middle. You're like, oh, this is kind of sad.

But also, ha ha ha. Were you closer to ha ha ha or awe on Monday night? 10 seconds or less go.

Well, on a personal level, like I don't. I'm not Cherishing I don't I don't feel like I don't feel bad for the guy. I feel bad for me. For not being able to root against them. But I don't w I'm not laughing about it.

Great. I was all the way sad. I was all the way, hmm. I poop my pants. I think we all did.

It wasn't real. All this buildup. He ran out with the flag, Paul. I've never seen a football stadium like that, except for maybe in college and then it was just done.

So Or Chris Gizzy. Chris Gizzy. Yeah, or Scott Snap. when he came flying out at that Cowboys game. Saw that.

That was my, I did, I was more the jaw drop. Wh like Whoa, but I have to admit Sorry to say, I was closer to Yeah. Ah! I think someone on your post game show said this was objectively funny. Was that Matt or Jake?

It's objectively funny. Hate Jake is gaining a reputation for rooting for injuries. I'm not saying that. I was just seeing tweets of people accusing him of that.

So it was, you know what it was. It was a big. Text Moment. He goes down 20 minutes later. I've got 60 texts.

I agree that. I mean, it's not the injury, it isn't funny. The story concluding. in this way. is objectively funny.

You can feel bad for the person and still say, From a story perspective, from an arc. The story arc? Objectively, a funny ending to that act. If you wrote the whole Aaron Rodgers movie. And this was The final scene.

People would walk out of theaters pretty pissed off. Absolutely. They'd be like, Why do you end it? Especially with hard knocks and the fact that that was just Aaron Rodgers perfectly. Attempting to craft his own narrative, and when the narrative couldn't be controlled by him.

This is the first thing that happened. It's it's it's beautiful art, you know. I'm sorry that the art is. Of the drama variety and not the comedy, but it's art. It is.

All right, moving on. Packers.

Okay. The 2022 first round pick. who you believe will have the more impactful Packers' career from this day forward. Whoa.

So this is Quay Walker versus Devontae Wyatt. The 2022 first-round pick that you believe moving forward, forget anything that happened last season and in week one. The more impactful player of those two, Moving forward from this day forward is Devontae Wyatt. Mm-hmm. Or I need to go outside the box with this one.

So, Grant, if you'd like to. Yeah. Grant. Devontae, why do you want to go first, or I'm confused? I'm confused too.

Go ahead. No, I don't watch when the Packers are on defense. What? Yeah. I'm just kidding.

But I don't, I don't have, I don't, whenever we talk about defense. I just pull shit out of my ass. I don't know. I could I could right now as you were asking the question I was like, which guy should I say? And then which reason should I give?

Who's? I don't have an. I don't know. I can't do defense.

Well, who, like, who's like, who, like, they both had wow moments. I was probably going to say Quay Walker, basing that on nothing. And then I was going to give. Reasons and say, well, you know, Quay, and you know, he had a reputation last year, he's fighting, and now, you know, the way he bounced off that guy, like. What am I saying?

I'm not saying anything. But Devontae Wyatt is very with the players on the defensive line. He's very with the players. Yeah. It is a good question, one that I'm not.

good at answering. And in this era of I call this my bankered era. In this bankkered era, I'm trying to make sure that I am not just true to myself. But true to the people that follow me.

Now, when I end the show. And this is the music outro. That is Artemis. Yeah, that's how you produce. I think Wyatt.

Because I've heard Look mm-hmm. Wyatt. Look at the Jets, right, and how their defense is built. They're built almost exclusively through their defensive line. Like, we don't talk about the edge rushers.

They don't have necessarily a Miles Garrett or a Micah Park. It's all these interior guys. And it's so hard to game plan against players like that because you can't. Shade protection one way or another. You can't chip with a tight end.

So, I think if Coy Walker and Devontae Wyatt end up kind of being the same caliber of player, and that's kind of what I would bet on. I think Devontae Wyatt is more impactful because of the nature of his position. And because the Packers have needed to stop the run and they've needed to get better in the trenches forever. And I think if Devontae Wyatt is good, and I think he will be, I think Coy Walker and Devontae Wyatt both will be. I think he'll be more impactful.

I think Quay will be good, but. I don't really love the coverage unit behind him. The cornerback position is a little up in the air right now, and that kind of leaves him out on an island. I thought Blake Martinez was a fine linebacker, but we blamed him for everything because he was kind of out there on an island. I think the same can happen to a a a player like Quay Walker.

So I'll say Wyatt, but Lake Martinez was too focused on his Pokemon trade. Correct. The thing, so I'm going to say Devontae Wyatt, which, of course. Last season as rookies is preposterous. Not that Quay Walker was good, but Devontae White almost literally didn't play.

Which is not great for the 28th overall pick in the draft, who, and I have to remind myself, and I think it's important to remember. Devontae Wyatt is 25 years old. Mm-hmm. 25 and a half years old. I mean, he's a March birthday.

He's a March, he's a March birthday. He's twenty-five and a half and he's only in his second year.

So You know, he probably has Only a f Six-year impactful career. You know, like most defensive linemen hit 30 and they don't get better. There's your. You're outliers better Quay Walker is going to be on the field for almost every play. Right, as an inside linebacker, Devontae Wyatt's going to sub in and out.

But I think the answer is Devontae Wyatt. For many of the reasons that Grant laid out, Clearly, there's not going to be that wow moment. From an inside linebacker, no matter how good they are, like there was with an interception return for a touchdown where he's bouncing off of guys, like that's. not going to happen again.

So what are the what do his weeks look like? When there's not that.

So I'm going to go with Wyatt. Um but If we're saying more impactful career, then I do think we have to keep in mind that he's two and that Wyatt is two and a half years older than Quay Walker, which is. Not nothing. You were on the Packers beat when Kenny Clark was drafted. What was he, 21?

He was young, young, wasn't he? 20. I think he was 20. Like, yeah, very, very young. Isn't that wild there's a five-year, four or five-year difference?

Yeah, I mean, how much? I mean, okay, how much older is Kenny Clark than Devontae Wyatt? A year? Interesting. Um Let's see.

Tim Look. I'm trying to book a time with Horbut for tomorrow. Two years older. All right, Bart, let's see if you can answer this one more. With all due, I mean, the question's a good one, and the conversation that followed is good.

I'm sorry that I'm. It's like with any great. Quarterback, you got to know your weaknesses. Yeah. And you gotta know the the strengths of those around you.

And you gotta know that if you're like You know, I'm 39.

So at this point in my life, I'm not going to extend conversations if I don't have to. Especially if that means that the left tackle is going to. Let the guy come sack me. I'm not going to do that. I'd be consider.

Consider the enormity of my ego if I were to do that and then turn around and blame. the coaches for the scheme. Of the blocking. I think we should put out a report after this episode drops that we didn't like the strategy that Paul took with his questions this week. Yeah.

Can we leak to someone in the Winklerverse that report? Yeah. Paul talked too long about John Cena. Yeah. Didn't want to bring it up.

Wanted to just, yeah. Anyway. Um. Speaking of 2022 draft picks. You are concerned.

About Injuries Short and long term with Christian Watson. You're officially. At that Point of worry. That injuries will get in the way of, will be the main story of, think of it how you want. of the Christian Watson.

career. You're worried about that. The injuries will be a major Impact, negative impact, obviously. On Christian Watson's career. Mm-hmm.

Or You'd like me to go first, this one, and be real brief. Sure, because I'm going to go outside the box again.

Okay, I'll go inside the box. He's played or has had the opportunity to play in what, 18 games now, 18 regular games, and he's missed what, six? He missed a couple with a hamstring last year and then a concussion. And he missed the opener.

So he has missed a lot. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned slightly, but this is part of learning to be an NFL player, right? You learn to manage injuries, you learn how your body reacts and responds to certain things. And he's got to learn that. And you hope that he will.

I think you have to hope. But he was more raw than most coming in. It's not like he was a polished professional from. LSU or from Bama.

So I think you need to consider that as well. That he's greener than most. And part of being green is learning to manage your body.

So hopefully. As he p Polishes his game. And he has a lot of polishing to do still. He also learns to manage and works with some veterans on the team.

So I'm concerned, but I also think there's reason to be optimistic for sure. Yeah. I don't believe. That being injury prone is a thing. Oh, with hamstrings, it's definitely a thing.

So but if so If you hurt s a hamstring, it might linger. Is that what you're defining as injury prone? I didn't say injury prone in the question. You can take it that direction if you want. But to say that Like that.

Hamstrings We're all built differently. We've all trained differently up until the point of, in their case, becoming professional athletes. Not all hamstrings are built the same. Not all hamstrings have been trained and developed the same. Like, there are instances where.

Hamstring people hamstring injury people are hamstring injury people. I say that as a hamstring injury person, I'll be a non-professional athlete hamstring person. Like, But just really like.

Well and oh Okay, so then in that case you're asking me long term if I'm worried about the hamstring. Yes, if you wanna take it like in the micro direction, but just like that, it's going to be always in the way. It has you worried that it's gonna be the thing that's like, Watson's really good, but dot, dot, dot. And it's the, there's, you're never just gonna be able to say Watson was really good. It's because there's always that lingering, yeah, but like he missed six games again.

Oh, but he's not available for week one, you know. Like, anyway, take it how you want to go. Again, somebody asked me about the game, and Watson was hurt. Watson, Christian Watson was never going to be the. thing that decided Packers Bears.

I was, I thought he could have been. And if, like, you know, obviously that was foolish. I don't know. People see that he's out in the injury report. You act like he's Sterling Sharp with a neck injury.

The problem is, like, okay, but who else do you throw the ball to then for first game starting quarterback Jordan Love? His number one presumed weapon is not there. Not a Romeo Dubbs, who played and played well, was also hurt, but played. Love him. Yeah.

Well, there's an article out by Rob Domofsky who... Yeah. I'm blocked by Rob. I didn't You knew that. There's an article out by Matt Schneidman and Mat What?

There's this one guy who covers the Packers, J.J. Leahy, and he. He blocked me too? Darren. There's a elementary school that I The Sabish Middle School in Fond du Lac.

They block me? Your middle school has you blocked? All middle school and fun like has me blocked. I wonder if the High Berry has me blocked. You should not be able to do it.

High berry had me black for some reason. And then I went there. a bunch for Milwaukee Pro Soccer and I talked to the guy and We were super friendly and I told him, he goes, Oh man, that what And I'm and then they unblocked me. Then they blocked me again. Yeah.

The High Berry Bar has me blocked. On Twitter, why? Interesting. Any bar that has a Twitter account is not a bar for me. I'll just go out and say that right now.

I don't want the owner of my bar owning a smartphone. That's a red flag for me. That's not a bar that I want to hang out at. I want them to have a flip phone. Mm.

Were you going somewhere? I know you said you were going outside the box. Is this as far as you're. I appreciate a long setup, but No, I don't think injury prone. I don't believe in it.

And if Christian Watson is going to have. A lifetime like injury. I don't know that he's good enough to for me to worry. Oh, wow. I think he is good enough.

I don't know. When Christian Watson's on the injury report. People are acting like it's Jordy Nelson or some shit. Relative to this team, he He is a little bit, a little bit, absolutely. This team's Jordan Nelson.

But I don't know. I don't I'm just telling you Yeah. Uh oh. He muted, thankfully. I was just gonna I was doing the and I get light-headed man I almost fell yesterday He's muted.

No, he's good. Jesus Christ. He's on he's on meds now. He's he's on the road to recovery. Presumably.

Not enough meds. He's miming puking into a bucket. I think miming. Can't say for sure. One would hope.

I think it was Miami. He seems to I'm shaking. We can see you, yeah. What? I was doing so good, guys.

You were doing very good. Christian Watson is He's 6'4 and he's the fastest person on a football field. I'm not saying he's Jordy Nelson, but it's a big deal when he's out, even if he's not getting a ton of catches, just because you have to. dedicate so much attention to him. It's the same concept as gravity.

Like with Steph Curry, a team that you are intimately. Oh, I love discussing gravity in the NBA. Let's closer to the NBA season. Can we have a long-form discussion about? I want to use it.

Gravity episode. Oh. Hell yes. What are you guys talking about? Like how players affect The gravity of the court, and because of just their them being there, affects everything else.

That a real thing, it's a very real thing. Are you serious? I didn't hear. Yeah. Yeah.

Back on mute. Yes, it's a real thing, right, Grant? I mean, I don't know how this has escaped part for 39 and a half years, but especially as a Golden State Warriors fan. Right. I've never heard about anyone.

Do that. What is your bit today? You're extending these bits just a little bit farther than they need to be extended. What are you talking about? We can't tell if you're serious that you've never heard of the concept of a player's.

I've heard of gravity. No, no, but probably the movie as well. But have you heard of it in relation to like. No, I've never seen any NBA discussion. that has talked about gravity.

Well, you need to spend less time with the 19 year olds on Twitter and more time in uh Smart NBA circles like me and Grant run in. You know, retweet. Oh, I understand. I can see how it's a concept. I'm not.

Belittling that. You know what's messed up, Paul? And then your topic is: we're like less than a month away from getting Bill Simmons, Ryan Rossillo, and House being. Doing preseason win totals. How did we get here?

It feels like just yesterday, I listened to all the podcasts. Go to sport. Yeah. He just put up a technical difficulties planned. No, that's just for the Dan Shaney YouTube streamers.

There's some prop comedy, all right. Um. All right, so let me just conclude with this with. More prop, more visual comedy. It's very hard to answer you guys a question when I'm staring at this.

Very, very difficult. Just ask. Are you sure? This is very weird. I don't think I can see.

All right. The Colts reportedly asked for Christian Watson. In the Jonathan Taylor trade discussions. I put up a poll. When the Colts reportedly asked for Christian Watson in a trade for Jonathan Taylor, Packers GM Brian Gudekinst should have dot dot dot.

Agreed to that deal, hung up the phone quickly. offered only a second round pick or offered a second and a third round pick. I don't know if you actually responded in the poll, but how would you respond of what Goudekins should have done if that was the offer being made? And I parallel this because we just talked about Watson. And if you are concerned, or if you're not concerned, All of that.

I will tell you 52%. Said should have hung up the phone quickly. Which means 48% would have countered. to some degree, Grant and Bart. First of all, I voted all your polls and I don't appreciate the.

The implication that I don't, or that I wouldn't. Wow. No, Kristen Watson, because I don't know what parts on. Like, I don't know. We maybe we need to do the Chris Watson thing.

He's a number one wide receiver. Yeah, this cop could potentially be a number one wide receiver. and one of the best top guys in the league. I'm not saying top five, but. Like up there is a very, very good first option.

And Jonathan Taylor is an aging running back in the final year of his contract. Jim Merce is nuts, but that's the reason why Jonathan Taylor wants out anyways. I like that you said aging. I do like that you said aging really. 24.

Is he three months older than you? You fucking Zymote. I'm older than John of the day. Is he not aging? Last time I checked, he is aging.

Is he not? You are not inaccurate to say that he, he, like all of us, are aging.

So Grant, you said hung up the phone quickly? Yeah, I mean, Counter. A.J. Dillon sucks. He's terrible.

By the way, I'm glad we're now all on the same page. It did take three plus years to get here, but we. Because he wrote a children's book and went to Dork County, guys. He is like. He and Aaron Jones are sort of like the most Vocal.

They are like kind of, they are the Packers now. And like this, it's going to become Jordan Love and obviously whatever else. But like Aaron Jones is so visible, so likable. And A.J. Dillon is like.

The The Brown County guy.

So, but honestly, when Dylan's in there, watch a drive first down. He'll get two yards. Second and eight, he'll get six yards. Third and two. incomplete pass.

Minus one. He's in the backfield, tackled. That screen play that they set up for him, it was either late in the third quarter or early in the fourth. They had three blockers in front of him. He's the only running back in football who doesn't get the first down there.

He's poor. He's piss poor. And it's something personal. It's just. You know, all offseason, I had to, and not to call it Pete.

I like Pete, but Pete, I think, can get sometimes over his skis with his tapes and his tweets. He tweets, oh, the Packers might have the best backfield in football. What the f what? AJ Dillon is. I don't know that he's replacement level.

I think he's worse than average. Again, nothing personal. But if they can't, look at it this way: if they could not effectively run the ball and pick up first downs in garbage time with AJ Dillon on Saturday just to run out the clock. What is he for? What does he do if they can't use him effectively in that setting?

I don't know. I wanted to mention this at one point, a Ben Fennell tweet. He had said that, so he watched the game back. LaFleur did. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

A Eight different like. Sweeps and the duo concept and the triple option and Power and counter. All from under center, gun. And the pistol. LaFleur took like everything he's ever wanted to do play formation wise and did it in this game.

And he gave a lot on tape for teams to. look for Which is you know if if if you're like if it's Under Rogers, it was almost like Tecmo Super Bowl. Like, what one of these eight plays are we running? But LaFleur put a bunch out there. And so now Packer prep week is going to be a little harder.

By the way, thoughts on the game on Sunday? I like the Packers to win. The Falcons defense is going to be better than the Bears, though. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost. The thing I said the other night was: just because the Packers beat the Bears this way.

I don't know. It's almost like this is week one. I don't know what to expect. Out of this team, we haven't seen enough. I guess I'll take him to win.

I won't be surprised if they lose.

So I don't know. I'll take the Packers to win like. 24 to 22. I mean, we only have one game of data on all these teams.

So I know that the Bears are worse than a lot of teams, and I think that the Packers are better than some, but we don't know by how much, and we don't know exactly.

So I don't know what to make of the Falcons are weird, man. And I like Arthur Smith and I kind of like what they got going on. But you drafted Kyle Pitts in the top five, and you drafted Drake London in the top 10, and Drake London doesn't have a catch last week. And then he's asked about it in his post-game press conference. He's like, Let me stop right there.

I'll let the fantasy guys ask and answer those questions. All we care about is winning. Drake London doesn't care. I promise you that. I'm like, he might.

He might care. I mean, you took him in the top 10, he didn't have a catch.

So, I don't know. Kyle Pitts has two catches, you know, when he's supposed to be like the next, the next generational tight end. Tyler Algier gets all the goal-line touches. Like, they did use Bajan Robinson quite a bit, but a lot of the Falcons' frustration stems from fantasy. But, like, if you don't.

Want to use your fancy targets, then don't draft them in the top 10. That's just bad business. Anyways, I have a I have a Jordan Love Topic. But I think I'm gonna save it for next week.

Well Wait, how many minutes do we have?

Well, we got to get the Stearns one in. Let's get this.

So, we're going to take a quick intermission. Each week, I hope to bring you this following intermission. This this is brought to you by Bart Becoming Mature. Who is mature enough to say envelope and mature, not? We've learned not mature enough to say, what was last week's word?

Vase, not mature enough for that. We're not there yet. Bart, are you mature enough to say foyer? Or is it a foyer? Yeah, I think we're right.

Oh. Foyer. Yes. But then you should guess what I'm going to say. What a Put your coat down in my foyer.

Put it in my foyer. Where's your code? I seamed it. It was in my foyer. Yeah.

He is mature. Bart is mature enough to not fight with Kirk Benkert on Twitter, despite the fight. You know what I haven't been to in a long enough time is a party. Where I go in. And They say Can I take your coat?

And then they go, just throw it. There's a room there. Just throw it on the bed. On the bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I haven't been to a throw your coat on the bed party in a while. Yeah. When was the last time you were at a hopefully at your age? Hopefully, at our age, like we, there aren't any more throw your coat on the bed. Like, that doesn't seem like throw your coat on the bed.

It was a staple of a Midwest party around the holidays. Yeah, but families, you can throw your coat on the bed. in the eighties and I I I don't think I don't know. I don't think you'll wear coats. Ever?

You wore shorts in the winter. No, but I I I don't I don't I don't really wear coats. He says while coughing up along. I wear one coat. I'm gonna go put.

You ask the Stearns. I'm gonna go get the one coat on that I wear, and I only wear it when I'm shoveling.

Well, I think you're going to have to be here for the question, so I'll hear you. You'll hear me.

Okay. I'm going, it's in my basement. I'm not going to fucking Burlington Code Factory. I thought you were maybe going up into your foyer. It's just on the bed, it's just on the bed in the basement bedroom.

That's right. The unfinished basement bedroom where all the guest coats go. Oh my God. David Stearns. And this is where it's going to be important to nuance.

the following. David Stearns leaves a very good Legacy. As Brewers GM/slash president of operations. No.

The operative word, very good. First of all, I need my new seat cushion. Yeah, Yep, very nice. County Stadium. I like it.

Here's the thing: here's my take on David Sears: prop comedy. That's not a coat. That's a sweater. Yeah, that's not a coat. News 8, though.

Oh, that's bitching. Mm-mm. News eight. David Stearns, your take, Bart. He leaves a very good legacy.

I did say this on yesterday's show. Um Sure, he leaves a good legacy. Here's what David Stearns is. You know, now these articles have come out that. Yeah.

You only like baseball if you're. Uh if if this happens When you're a kid.

Son? It's time for bed now, David. Yeah. Okay, just let me. No, David, we've talked about this.

It's time for bed. But the Mets game, it's only the fourth inning. I want to see Dwight Gooden finish this out. David, I'll tell you the results in the morning, and they got a day game, and we're going to Shea this weekend. Everything's going to be okay, David.

It's just one game. There's 162 of these, okay? Yes, father. David goes to bed. David's got a transistor radio and he sleeps with it under his pillow and he listens to the end of the game.

And then he hears it the whole day. And then he comes down the stairs the next day and he goes, Daddy, how about that Mets win?

Well, did you get a copy of today's paper, David? I never told you that dimension won. How did you find out? Jeez. Bart You can only like baseball.

If at one point you grew up putting a radio. Under your bed. And listening. David Stern, so here's David Sterns. David Stearns is a guy who.

He got the girl. He's a guy in high school. Time for this girl. They go to college. And they like Boingy boingy once or twice.

Go their separate ways. She probably got divorced. He's just been working at the plow. They they meet up. Halloween party.

No, that's where I met my wife. Different example. They meet up at the 15th anniversary. Of the high school. Um and then he's like What's the song where what's the song where uh Hey baby, how you doing?

Well, your hair looks so good now. I don't know. Oh. Lone star? Yeah.

I don't know it.

Well like Mr. Mom. No, that's what she's doing these days. That's what she's doing. Oh, hey, baby.

That's Rascal Flat. No, that's Lone Star. That's Lone Star. I know the. No, it's Rascal Flats.

I fucking knew it.

Okay. Now I know what you're talking about.

Okay. Now I'm there. Is that you? Yeah, your hair got so long. Yeah, yeah, I love it.

I really do. And then they like get together. They've gone their separate ways. You know, they started together. Very, this is very long.

I'm sorry. They've gone their separate ways. We're kind of spitting. They were always going to end up together.

So what I what I what I infer Is that every day? That David Stearns was in that locker room. Every day that he was celebrating another. You know, bite at the apple or World Series birth, every trade he made, every step he took, every breath he took. Wow.

Who was the last team on his mind when he went to bed? Just like it was. In those old. Brooklyn Roads. Queens Roads.

It was the Mets. This guy was an imposter. He's always wanted this job. We were his, I got a lot of references musically here. We, we, we, we, we were his stepping stone.

Okay. Okay. I'm gonna cut this out, but That's good. You were spitting. You know what I'm saying?

I totally do. I don't know that it's a fact. We all knew you were going to end up there. Did we mean nothing to you? We didn't mean nothing.

Don't put that on him. That's not fair. Don't act like none of the successes and the ups and downs we had in Milwaukee. Yeah, but the smile that he had when it became official. He never smiled like that here.

I know it. You don't think, you don't think that after what happened last year, David Stearns has. He doesn't have a little bit of frustration with the organization, rightfully so. You don't think so? With the brewers?

Yeah. Why would he have frustration with the brewers? Oh, because the owner was like. I didn't tell him to do that. The owner did hang him out to dry just a little bit.

Just a bit. Unless it was not saying the hater move was good. It didn't work out. But the owner completely hung him out to dry on that. And maybe he deserved to get hung out to dry because it was a shit.

I was going to say, like, that.

Okay, sorry. Keep going. I don't know. I just, I think he was burned out, and I think he made one bad move, basically. He made smaller, like little moves that didn't pan out, but so does every executive.

He has one miss in like six years of taking the poverty-ass brewers of the playoffs year after year after year. He makes one miss in a trade that was probably going to happen months later, anyways, not excusing it because it was an awful trade. And his owner threw him under the bus.

Someone told me after college He ran off to Vegas. Married a rodeo cowboy. Wow. That ain't the girl I knew. Rascal Flats is a really underrated band.

By the way, a lot of hits. Uh, they really took Lone Star's work and took it in another step, which was he just twanged a little more, just a little more, not too much, a little less on the vocal. They went less Diamond Rio and a little bit more, I don't know, wherever step they took. I just country music like 2002, 2003. All bangers.

Minus any song that was like My cocks an American Eagle and he's gonna fuck up the whole world. That was a little much. Is that a real stuff? Is it?

Somewhere. You guys don't think the... Th think of this. You don't think the Pete Alonso leak Post-trade deadline is interesting in all of this. I think it's interesting.

It is interesting. I think it's the Brewers. Best thing since wrestling. Investing. And you're.

The Brewers are probably, Mark Atanasi is probably just a little bit annoyed with the Mets trying to poach his guy for years, despite him being under contract. They're finally going to get them.

So what does he do? He's like, well. Fuck them. We almost got Pete Alonso from him and they're shopping him actively.

So I want everyone to know about this now. Little kick. Uh to the Mets. As he could, as basically the only thing he could do. But I thought that leak was interesting now, kind of knowing.

What had been moving? Where would you put counsel going there in terms of like, what's it likely? Council's going there is as likely as it is that a hurricane is going to develop in Lake Michigan and. Tear through Shorewood.

Well, just ask Sam Kuffle with climate change, that could happen any day now. I had actually Bob Nightingale. USA Today on my show the other day, and while he is not the most dynamic guest, my god, is he plugged in and he knows what's going on? Even if he is not dynamic, he is not, he is not. I think he was just a newspaper come to life, which I appreciate that matches the sport that he covers.

Um That's not fair. He's tweeted it. He's written about it. Council's stepping away and he's not going to manage elsewhere at the end of this year. Let's do this family.

He's not going to manage the Mets, that's for sure. He's not going to manage the Mets. Maybe four or five years down the road, after taking a break. We also talked about the possibility that maybe he works in a front office or works in some setting that doesn't demand he be. In a dugout six months a year, but also baseball guys, they love that.

You know, they love being in the clubhouse and they love contending and trying to win games every day.

So maybe that is in him. But he's not going to the Mets. I would feel very confident in that.

So wait, so Bart, you definitely answered the question of... Did David Stearns use this as a stepping stone? I don't think you answered the question of if he leaves a very good legacy. with the brewers. He should.

Well yeah, we we we had success when he was here. He was the architect of the golden age of Brewers baseball. Which, Tim, does Eliber call on that one? Fuck Tim. What is with your generation's obsession with like 2007 to 2012?

That was a fun little window where they made the playoffs like twice. It's the same About your obsession about The last it's the same period of my life was your life now. Except my they were better in the period that I talk about. Yeah. Okay.

Okay, okay. All right. So so what what we're going to say we got we got You compare your rings, I'll compare my rings.

Well, nobody has rings. This is a brewer's conversation we're having.

So We all agree then, it's pretty undisputed. He leaves a very good legacy. Paul, how much did your wedding ring cost? The one that you wear. Oh, I don't know.

I'm pretty sure this is 99 bucks. Yeah. Maybe the size is too big, but. I'm not like my grandpa, never took it off ever. I'm like, well, I want to take a shower.

That's nice. Um He definitely leaves he leaves a very Very good legacy. I kind of saw that being disputed a little bit. And I was So I was playing with what word to use? Like, very good.

Like, he leaves a great legacy. Like, where would you stop? In your Praise for the legacy that Stearns leaves. I'd say Awesome. I'd say very good.

Very productive, very successful. Very Yeah. Ach achievementable Yeah. And the ones, and you know, you did all those songs, Bart, and the one song you didn't do that I'm sure you would regret not including is Legacy. What is a legacy?

It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see. David Stearns is not going to see some of the scenes that he planned. Martin Winthrop Show has been produced in a Shorewood basement. Guests of the Bart Winkler Show receive Nothing. Nothing.

In fact, it's probably worse. for them to have come on. Thank you. Powerways of the show can be found on YouTube. Spotify.

Apple. Odyssey. This sounds like most Drake songs ever made. And I mean that as nothing but the strongest compliment.

So is that it or we done? I was seeing who talked first.

Alright, thanks guys. Bye. Then you get a little higher before you actually fake.

So you get a little higher. Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. Hey, it's Big Rona, New Jersey, calling in with my betting picks. For week two of the NFL season. Just to recap my voicemail that Bart played last Friday morning, I gave you three picks in college, five picks in the NFL.

In college, I took Colorado, Buffalo's minus three. I took Washington State. Cougars tough six point five, and I took the over in that. I went two and one on those. And then with my underdogs, my five underdogs that I gave you, I went four and one.

So for a tasty six and two Profitable weekend.

So, in week two, I'm not focusing on college football. This week, because there's just a bunch of cupcakes playing the major programs, there's not a lot of good Um gains at all. You could take a money line parlay. But I'm going to focus on the NFL, and I have two basic strategies for NFL week two. The first is to take advantage of overreactions and the point spreads from the week one results.

So here are the early so I placed Three early bets that I placed in week two to get in ahead of the sharps before the line moves. On Thursday night, I like The Vikings to kind of regress to the mean, recover from their terrible performance in week one, which I did correctly bet against them and took Tampa. But now I'm going to take the Vikings plus seven. That's a big spread. on Thursday night football.

You can get that for minus one hundred five juice. I'm also going to look for the Bengals to recover from their horrific performance. And take them minus lay the three and a half if you want to. Mean all. buy that half a point down to three, I would recommend that as well.

Now, one team I don't expect to revert to the mean is the Bears. They are truly terrible. Hammer Tampa Bay minus three in that game. And my second strategy for the NFL Is there was a lot of unders that hit in week one, and the NFL probably didn't like all the bad offensive performances. The NFL wants points, points equal ratings, which translate into Profit for the NFL.

So I expect a lot of pass interference and defensive holding calls this week. I already bet four games over. I bet the Green Bay game over, the Minnesota game over, the San Francisco game over, and the Miami Dolphins.

So take those four overs. as well as Vikings plus seven, Bengals minus three point five and Tampa minus three. have a glorious um betting weekend, and maybe I'll check in next week. Take care.

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