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You need Indeed. Good morning, everybody. My name is Bart Winkler. It is The Bart Winkler Show, October 9th. Happy birthday, Ryan Horvat. Make sure you tell our good buddy, Horvy.
Happy birthday. Horvat will be on this episode last week when we did the week five picks, which I think I did okay on. I know I said I would put several hundred dollars on New England and they didn't score a point, but some of the other picks I got right. My Survivor is still alive. If you're in the Splashport Survivor pool, next week is going to get a little trickier. You are going to have some choices to make. Miami was the pick for me this week.
And then next week, if you guys again are still in Survivor, you've probably used a bunch of the good ones. I may be looking at, God, I don't know. The Eagles at the Jets, I think maybe.
I'm not sure. So there's a tough decision to make there. Later in the show, again, Ryan Horvat will be on it. We recorded our Packer prediction as well. So we recorded our Packer prediction, and I saved it for today's episode. It is under the pretense that Devonta Adams plays, and I know he's questionable, and I think that ultimately he'll play.
There's been a lot of talk about him facing Jair, and I think that we will get that matchup. I'm just worried about one of those Field-Yates tweets that at midnight, as soon as it cracks midnight, they have the answer for you. This happens every week now. Saquon's questionable, and then at midnight 01, Schefter's reporting that he will not play. Or Amen Ra St. Brown will not play. It's like, are you waiting on purpose? Why is there a moratorium on this?
Why can't you just tell us? So unless that has happened, we are assuming that Devonta will play today, and that will impact how we feel about this game. Week 5 in the NFL, an interesting one. Jacksonville getting a win in London, Jonathan Taylor coming back, and then people are upset that they benched Zach Moss. Of course you're going to bench Zach Moss, especially if you have Taylor. That's not a bad move that you did.
It's just that it ended up being a bad move. Saints kill the Patriots. What is of note? Detroit still winning, still playing very well. Joe Burrow is back. Jets beat the Broncos, which is funny. The Vikings. There is a conversation I did see with Vikings fans, the same thing that we had against the Lions, where people are selling tickets. Vikings fans let a lot of red into that stadium.
So Vikings fans are a little upset, like, whoa, what do we do here? How much did you sell tickets for? I think that for the most part, unless you're a team that is expected to blow out every team every week and have a real party, or unless you're a team that's like the Lions where you've sucked for so long and now you're good, fans are going to sell tickets. They want the tickets, but they cost so much. And then some stadiums have personal seat licenses, which makes it even more expensive. So the only way to justify buying the tickets is selling some tickets.
And you're going to try to make some money back. You're not just going to give them away to drive around town and find the first person in a Packer uniform and say, would you like my tickets for half off, sir? I just need to get some green and gold in that stadium, sir.
It's just not going to happen. I wish it was different. I wish tickets cost so much. We live in a culture where we romanticize how much it costs to get into a place.
Oh, Super Bowl costs $5,000 to get into. That's awesome. No, it's not.
It's stupid. Oh, this Packer game is the highest ever. That's bad. Tickets should be affordable.
It should be six bucks on a Tuesday if you want to go watch the Brewers choking the playoffs, which we will talk about. Bretton Tosa is, you know, he's a guy that we've talked to a lot about the Brewers. And as I tell him, I think about him a lot. He's maybe the most I don't know. You guys are all passionate about the team.
I mean, we all care. But Bretton Tosa has kind of become the like the beacon of Brewers for us. And so we do need to wrap with him in a little bit.
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What's gonna what does it cost you? All right, here's Spark Guy 4029152278. The one thing I think the Woodruff thing definitely was a main factor. I also think watching those two games, they'll see how many guys they got on base.
There is just an element of luck. Now I do have to touch on base in your playoff format. Completely disagree. I think the playoff format is as good as it's ever been. I know it sucks when you get swept in two games. But in the old format, you get swept in three games. That's, again, on the cup of seven or eight, like the season ended in 60 hours. Current format really accentuates regular season play.
I think it solves the problem. You not only have wildcards fighting it out, but also the division winners fight. I want what I would do is four teams, three division winners, one wildcard, best of seven in both rounds. This 3-5-7 thing is dumb. It does not accentuate regular season. The Diamondbacks won 84 games.
The second half of the season, they were below 500. I think the playoffs should be, who is the most deserving for a championship? Let them battle it out now. Not, let's make it exciting in as many cities as we can.
This is where we're at the crossroads. Do we really want to figure out who the best team is every year? I always thought that was the goal.
Figure out who the best team is every year. It doesn't seem like that's the goal. Which, if it's not the goal, it's not the goal. Maybe I'm just wrong.
Where am I at here? I may have jumped ahead. You not only have wildcards fighting it out, but also the division winners fighting it out. It prioritizes winning your division, and it prioritizes being one of the best division winners. You want to avoid being in that three season as a division winner, and you want to avoid being on the road because you have to play three games on the road. I think it makes the regular season that much more interesting while also expanding the field for credible playoff teams.
That said, I went into this post-season thinking that I thought the Brewers, I told you that, were the favorite in the NL in my mind. They were playing as strong as they could. The Woodruff thing really hampered how they got to look at things, and more importantly, they just got unlucky. I think getting that kind of guys on base in that few runs I think is a big part of luck.
That said, I think it's the same problem the Packers had. Free agency. I look at the success of major league teams, go back to my own experience, 16 Cubs. People talk about the young core. That is one of the best young cores.
That's as perfectly as the draft and produce procedure can go. They needed creations. Dexter Fowler hit the leadoff home run. Ben Zobrist had the game-winning hit. Jon Lester contributed big innings. When I look at this Brewer team, and I look at the past Brewer teams, they need one or two more guys.
The end of those contracts are always difficult, and you run some risk that at the end of the contract it really bites you. But I look at the Packers and their success. 2020, the Smith brothers. That was a big success, and I don't think they get where they did without that pass rush.
2014, I know it ended in Seattle. Julius Peppers. You look at the Charles Woodson deal. These teams need to have some incorporation of free agency to get that extra piece or two.
You look at some of the bats available, that would have helped the Brewers. Finally, I'm going to go there, and I'm going to say this. I've been on the road a lot the last month. I've been listening a lot. I'm going to say something to make everybody mad, but it's the truth. Bob Euchre needs to retire. I know people's personal feelings on it, but if you listen to the guy at length, he needs to retire. It is getting to a Lee Corso level. So that's all I got.
Bye. I don't think Bob Euchre is on the Lee Corso level. I think with Bob Euchre, we like to listen to him because he reminds of our childhood.
Or it's just the common voice we've always known. He's given up the road games and all this stuff. I don't agree with you. We need Bob Euchre in some way, shape, or form on those broadcasts. He needs to be there too, or he would have retired a long time ago.
No, I don't agree with that. Next time you pop on the video. Next time Spark Eye pops on the live stream, I'm going to post an alert out so everyone can come and throw tomatoes at them. Live stream after Packers football, by the way.
That will be on the Dan Cheney YouTube live stream. Packers Raiders. Monday Night Football. Packers have not lost to the Raiders since 1987. They've won eight straight against them, I believe it is. They've only played on Monday Night Football one other time.
The day after Favre's dad passed away. So the Packers, they've got to win this game. Because I think what the Packers are going to settle into being is a good-bad team. They'll lose to the good teams, beat the bad teams. If they lose to the Raiders, well then that's not what they are. Then they're just a bad team that might win sometimes.
In terms of the 20-23 Packers. So we'll find out what happens tonight. I found out what happens when you take a Delta 9 the other night. You start feeling good real quick.
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You need Indeed. OK, so you can always leave voicemails on the Carlos Place voicemail line, 402-915-2278. In the past, though, if you've got a little longer than a voicemail, just let's talk on the show. And so Brett and Tosa, because you get like three minutes and you can keep calling back and whatever. I don't know.
Maybe I can set it longer than three minutes, but it's always better to have a conversation. So let's have a conversation with Brett and Tosa. And I think that you've kind of become like who I think of a lot when the Brewers suck or do something bad because you wear it on your sleeve a little more. As we are talking here, the Diamondbacks are going into Monday up one nothing, getting to Kershaw early. So this this streak of like Brewers teams getting beat by certain teams, they all go to the World Series. And so now like now I'm all like, whatever, I don't like that.
So where are you with that? Like, are you you're not you're not rooting for the Diamondbacks or anything. I want I want the streak to end.
No, I'm not rooting for the Diamondbacks at this point. It's like, are you fucking serious, though? Like, how is this a thing? Like it.
I don't know it. I mean, it's already stupid, but if it happens with the Diamondbacks, I was reading some stuff when I did a show on CBS this weekend. They were like thirty five and forty four in the second half of the season. They had a bad like not great September end of the year. They I mean, you want to talk about the Brewers backing in to the division.
No, no, no. The Diamondbacks backed in to the playoffs. And the way that the playoffs structured Brett is the Brewers postseason was that's the biggest problem that I'm having is one hundred sixty two games. And you do live and die with every night. And it is a commitment. And I think in baseball more than any other sport, like it's you know, it's work. It's almost like it's exhausting as a fan.
You've got to be committed to this. And for those that are to then have the playoffs be twenty seven hours, like I'm going to think next year there's going to be games in May and June and July. And I'm just gonna be like, if we're just gonna go to the playoffs and get bounced in a day and a half, like, I wonder how much it's worth it to me, you know? Yeah, I completely agree.
I mean, I'm still I'm still devastated. I think I will be until this Dodgers series is probably over. But yeah, I mean, I I don't I watch most of the games every year and that that's three hours every game. It's an hour post game. I mean, it's a couple hours a day where I'm not working and just thinking about like the game. Like, it's a huge time commitment for six months out of the year to, you know, the season's done on Sunday and all the build up until Tuesday night. And then just like that, two days is over.
It sucks. But that's the that's the baseball. That's October baseball. And if you go on a run, it's fun, right? Like if you go on a run, it can be a week or two of it's not like the NBA where it's dragged out and there's two days of off days and off day between every game. Like it's nonstop. So it's a lot of fun. But there hasn't been a lot of fun since since twenty eighteen. It's been quick exit after quick exit. And it's just it's hard because I know every time you get bounced early, people are like, well, this team sucks.
It's someone's fault. Like, I don't know, man, like maybe the Braves win the next seven games and they're in the in the World Series. But like the Braves are one of the best teams of all time this year and the Phillies bounced them.
I think the Phillies have the advantage tomorrow and the next two games, actually. I mean, baseball in October is like a coin flip. And that's why do I want a World Series as much as anyone?
Like, absolutely. And every year we don't get it. I'm more devastated every year because it feels like every bite out of the apple that we get it. We're a little bit closer, but it's just hard for me to say the season is a disappointment when because I understand what playoff baseball's like and to see. I think I think the regular season, you know, we always do that. Was it a success? The regular season was a massive success. Yeah. I mean, you had a lot of great performances.
You found guys that contributed. I mean, there were there are great moments throughout and you want a division like the regular season was a massive success the way the playoffs are set up. And I get like I get the bites of the apple thing because and really all that means is we just want to get in.
We just want to get in because who knows what can happen. And so that's their philosophy, because that's the way that baseball's set up. Now, if I could change it, I would I don't like that it's three games and then five games and then seven. It's like a completely different mentality for every round of baseball.
I would just like, you know, if we're going to do one hundred sixty two game regular season, aren't you? Isn't the whole point of that to determine who the best teams are and then let them play it out? What I would go I would go back to four teams with rounds of seven because then you're really otherwise it's it's made baseball right now is made for. It's made for the Diamondbacks. It's made for a team to just sneak in and not be that good record wise, but have enough talent where, yeah, for two or three weeks they play well and you're World Series champions. It's like it's made to get into the first little round when if you lose your the Brewers consistently, but it's made to get in there and win. It's not made for the hundred win team.
It's not made for the ninety five win team. It's made for the eighty four win teams and the Brewers, you know, they've been in. So like the theory that they have is if their theory is let's just get in and see what happens.
That theory has worked. They've gotten in and seen what happens five of the last six years, but they're always the team at the other side of it. And it just it's stacking up where it's like getting worse and dumber than ever the way that they're losing Tuesday's loss. Should it be an all time loss?
But we've already felt that kind of loss five other times in the last half decade. So it's very frustrating that the Brewers are doing what they intended to do. But because of the way the playoffs are structured, they're not being rewarded. I always say rewarded for bad behavior. The Brewers are not getting rewarded for good behavior. They're getting in.
And then it's Corbin Burns shit in the bed. You know, it's guys not being able to hit. And it's just it's it's all of a sudden your ace and your all star closer can't pitch. It just doesn't make any sense what's happening. It's very cruel. Yeah, I completely agree.
There's a lot there. First on the playoffs. I couldn't agree with you more. Just wait till there's expansion in five years and then they increase to like seven or eight teams, which I'm totally against. But you will have at some point a team that wins like 80 games and is in the World Series just because that's how baseball in October works.
And I, I completely agree. Personally, I like the five team with a one game. I mean, those games were electric. And I understand that one year it was the Cubs versus who was it?
Pirates. And it was like 97 versus 98 wins. And no one liked that. But it put emphasis on the divisions. Right. It's really the only sport that winning the division truly matters anymore. So, yeah, I completely agree with you. And then as far as the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, like everyone. So that's one of the big things is everyone wants to go all in.
Right. Like the Padres and like that did not work for the Padres. Like they got to the NLCS every year or last year, but they didn't make the playoffs this year. And look at the Braves and Dodgers.
I mean, they could both be bounced. It's not it does not make sense to go all in. Like I know the Royals did it like and Jake's point was you got to be a small market.
You've got to get everyone together and just go for it. Well. The Braves and the Dodgers have been going forward. The Dodgers have been the best team in the league for 10 plus years. And they have one World Series. Like I'd much rather get a shot every year and have some of these frustrating losses.
And I've always said, just get hot. Well, the Brewers were actually hot going into October. The Diamondbacks weren't. And then as far as that loss on Tuesday night, I mean, that's the hard thing why I have a problem saying it.
It's hard for me to say it's disappointing because there's three players in that series that are probably inches apart. That if you move the ball an inch or two, the Brewers might sweep. I mean, the Tyrone Taylor ball where Longoria jumped out of his shoes to catch it. The Brewers have a two run lead if he doesn't catch that.
Sal Freelich. The ball where he hit it right into Zach Galin's glove. Like it's three zero in the bottom of second. And then the Carlos Santana play where he probably makes that eight, nine times out of ten. I mean, I agree with you 100 percent on your post game. Like I can't blame the guy when there's a bat flying at his head. But it's oh, yeah, I don't blame him for that.
It's just unfortunate. And I my only takeaway really from the postseason is all along. Bruce Vance have been begging for years that there's too much home runs and strikeouts and they've kind of wanted this small ball and get on base type of offense. Like I heard a couple of people complain about runners in scoring position. The Brewers had 300 in those two games.
It's a small sample size. They hit 300. They had like a 380 on base. They hit over 300 runners in scoring position.
Like I just don't like how the team's built right now. I'd rather go back to having Roddy Toles hit 220 with 30 home runs. Like that's what wins in October. But with that being said, the Diamondbacks, they also don't hit home runs. And now they're just hot in the last three games and they've got guys hitting home runs. It's a coin flip. I know people don't like to hear that, but it's the truth.
So it's for me then it's hard. Like I'm trying to think, you know, because I'm I'm invested in the Bucks. OK. And I know that the Bucks are title or bust.
You know, you've got Damian Lillard and Giannis, your title or bust. And there's like their their talent is going to dictate how they do. I mean, there's been injuries the last few years.
What can you do? But it's not like although I guess Miami, Miami kind of did. Miami last year kind of did what baseball is. It's like some bullshit team does some bullshit stuff and they get the bullshit result.
But that was really the only example in football. Yeah, there's crazy games, you know, whatever. But typically, you know, like the teams in the Super Bowl are good teams. The teams in the NBA finals are good teams. And in baseball, it is it's just, you know, it's baseball.
I keep going back to that. It's baseball. And the fact that it keeps like it almost seems like no matter what team the Brewers are assembling, it's just the postseason is not going to work for them. And so as a fan, you know, I just and I'm sure, you know, come April, May, whatever.
But right now, I'm just like, why am I going to invest all that time into this? You know, that's the frustrating thing is I all summer I've been telling Grant just get me to get me to October with Burns Woodrow from Peralta. And I feel like we have a chance.
And we've done that now. The last couple of I know we didn't have Woody, but like we've done that the last couple of years and it hasn't worked out. I'm for me, like how the Brewers build the next team is I'm I'm done with this elite pitching thing. Like this front office, what they're really good at is finding pitching out of nowhere. Like the eight in 2018, the Julissa scenes, the way Miley's the Joe Gonzalez's the Trevor McGill's and guys like that, like they can find pitching.
That's what they're good at. I'm just get rid of all this elite pitching. Let the front office pull a bunch of has bands together and just load up the offense. That's that's where I'm at now, because I know that's like opposite of what is smart throughout the league. But I think the Brewers have such an advantage on the pitching side of the ball that.
It's not it hasn't been working and I let's just try something else. But a couple of things I want to nail down, though, is Jake had a couple of comments that I think are just completely false. Calls it fluke of a season. And there was a couple of people that says the only reason the Brewers were in the playoffs is because they were in a bad division. Like, that's not true. Like if you want, you can say that like a lot of what Jake comes up does when he comes. That's why the twins are in. That's not why the Brewers are in. That's yes.
That's the perfect example. Like a lot of what Jake does is he comes on here and talks about I'm always right. So I'm just going to spit some facts.
And this is how it like. Look at the numbers. Like against five teams above five hundred, the Brewers had the third best record in the league, only behind the Dodgers and the Braves. Like this team actually was the opposite this year. They couldn't beat the bad teams. They got swept by the A's. They struggled against the Rockies. Like this team beat good teams. If you want to look at their run differential.
Yeah, sure. But that's how the Brewers have always built themselves. Like this was a very good, very good team. And the only thing the only thing you can use against them why they weren't going to go to the World Series. That's because they didn't hit enough home runs.
And usually that's what wins. So you want to use that and blame it on the front office for not including enough power on the team. That's one thing. But this was not a fluke of the season. It was a very good baseball team.
They beat up on the they played very well against the best teams in the league. So I I just I and that goes back to the whole disappointment thing. Like I said, like I want to win a World Series and I'm devastated every year. And even though the playoffs aren't the best way to find the best team to reward the best team like the other sports, I still like that. But I still think it was I would like it if I get benefited us one time. I think it was a good year. They won ninety two games. Was the playoffs a disappointment?
Yes, absolutely. You can't say it was a success. But I mean, look at some of the luck they had. I mean, they they hit the ball and Burns sucked. Peralta sucked. Williams sucked.
Like, I don't know. It's frustrating. I think they're kind of at a crossroads, to be honest with you. I mean, Burns are going to get traded every day that goes on. If what he has sold, Tim Allen has been saying all year, this was a transition year, which I didn't really agree with. I think next year might be the transition year. Like if you trade Burns and if Woody has shoulder surgery and all of a sudden he's out, like, well, then you may as well trade Bart's guy, Willie Adames, and play all the young guys, see what you got. And you're probably not going to make the playoffs, but they've got.
But who's who's managing Brett? Well, that's yeah, that's that's the big thing, right? I don't think Council's going to New York. I think that I do not think that happens.
What I don't understand is he just told that. Did you have Tyler Kepner on this show? None of my podcast. I don't know that I've ever had him on. OK. I was trying to think because I know someone in the Milwaukee. Someone had him on some some show.
Might have been J.R. Radcliffe. But Council just told Kepner like a couple of weeks ago, I like what I'm doing, so I would think I would keep doing it. I think it's the whole Giannis thing where national media is going to just blow the story out of the out of the waters.
And then Giannis comes out and says he'll probably sign an extension next year and then it doesn't get any publicity. I think Council's coming back, but. I mean, he's he's important.
He he's the face of the franchise, in my opinion. I mean, we could do a year where you just like adding a year off and then Pat Murphy manages and then Council comes back. Well, I think that's what's going to happen is if he literally says, I just need a year off, they'll promote Pat Murphy.
And if he retires, they'll look for like a Steven Volt or someone. But because you got to get like if that's the play, you've got to like Murphy don't care. You'd be like, hey, you want to manage for a year and then go back to being a bench coach. You'd be like, yeah, I don't care. Craig, sure.
I don't give a shit. What if all Craig and whatever, I get it. He's tired as much as kid play, whatever. If for some reason Craig goes to New York and chases the World Series, I think that's like a franchise crippling move. Like, I don't I can't tell Bruce fans to keep support like it wouldn't necessarily be the Bruce fault. But I if there's a ton of Bruce fans that say, fuck it, I'm done with with baseball and with the Brewers after that happens. Like if Craig Council leaves, how can you ever trust anyone to stay ever again? Yeah. I mean, at this point, I'd be more mad if he went to New York than if Giannis ever did. Yeah. And I don't blame players for leaving because you can get more money other places. And, you know, there's things, endorsements, your brand.
But Craig Council is not worried about his brand. Yeah, it's a big week next week. It's the council decision. I mean, if Woody needs shoulder surgery, technically he's done as a brewer unless they sign him like a two year deal or something. So I think that's why it's a little bit more disappointing this year is because you know that it's kind of the end of an era. And to make the playoffs and not win any games, it's it's it's really frustrating.
But it was a good team. And I, I, I understand that, like this has happened 19, 21, 23. It's happened like three times now. But it's just I still got to chalk it up to just October baseball.
I mean, I don't know. Well, you know, what Brett does now is he actually does hibernate for the winter because he can't stand when there's no baseball. He wakes up again for spring training. So have a good slumber. Yeah, I mean, I watch 80 percent of the Bucks games and every Packer game, but I don't lose sleep over it like I do for the Brewers.
So, yeah, we'll see what happens. I guess you should have known it was going to end this way. Brett, you missed your first ever opening day. I thought that was going to change. We had the little guy for the playoffs.
I thought he was a good luck charm. But yeah, I guess not. Maybe next year, the twenty twenty four championship season. Right. There's always next year. Thanks, Brett. See you later. Let's go back to the Carl's Place voicemail line as we switch into some football Packers Raiders tonight. And then we'll wrap up with some Bucks Bucks.
Bucks are underway. Some of you might have went to the game preseason game. I was out of town.
Otherwise, I probably would've taken my kid. I like this. I like this noon preseason games.
That's where it's at. Get the kids in there. Packers noon preseason game on a Saturday. Kids that they get to get the kids in there. It's a preseason game.
Who cares? Get the kids in there. Great way to indoctrinate the kid.
Now, every time the Packers are on, I say, buddy, we went there. And he watches it with it for a little bit. Great way. Smart. Good, good moves.
All right. Here's Matt in the Falls. Carl's Place voicemail.
It's me. I'm about to launch into an accident laden rant about David Bakhtiari. So this is a warning to parents with children around. You're going to want to pause or skip ahead or whatever.
You got like three more seconds. But David Bakhtiari, this guy is so full of shit. I don't even know where to begin. He tears his ACL in 2020. He's an elite athlete. His body is crafted from some sort of special marble that we could never even dream of knowing anything about. He tears his ACL in 2020. He's had like 17 surgeries since then. He's walking around all the time, just dancing around, walking, you know, chugging beers, doing whatever the fuck he wants. But he can't play football.
Maybe that has something to do with his butt buddy Aaron Rodgers being gone. He tried to play this here. Oh, I can't play at all. Oh, well, now it's just the turfing.
Oh, now it's not just the turfing. He can't play at all. I think it's just because he doesn't want to. This reminds me of some other player who nursed injuries forever and just kept on having little procedures done. I don't remember who it was, but that guy was a piece of garbage too.
And so was David Bakhtiari. He's holding this team hostage. He's full of shit. He loves Elon Musk.
He loves Aaron Rodgers. Nothing about this guy is good. He's not cool.
He looks like he smells really bad. So just fuck this guy. Cut him and wave him.
I don't know what. Do whatever we have to. Get his contract off the books.
Move on. We got rid of Rodgers. We can get rid of this fucking loser. Here's a timeline of David Bakhtiari. New Year's Eve 2020 tears his left ACL cartilage in practice.
I've stolen this from PackersNews.com. A week later, he undergoes surgery to repair his ACL. In the summer of 2021, he's on the pup list. He comes back to practice in October, activated in November, and then immediately has arthroscopic surgery again. Finally plays against Detroit, but barely inactive against San Francisco for the playoff game. Another surgery. April of twenty two finally plays a full game in September of twenty twenty two emergency appendectomy in December. And then he's knocked out of the playoffs. He didn't play. Then he participates in training camp, plays against the Bears inactive.
We think it's because of the turf. And now there's a surgery and then another surgery. So it's been three years, essentially, that we have not had David Bakhtiari. And one of the more puzzling things about all this is the Packers are along for the ride. They keep converting his salary and pushing it down. And they seem to think that whatever they're going to get out of David Bakhtiari at some point may be worth the wait. And now it seems they may never get anything out of David Bakhtiari again.
Just a curious case. This was never offensive line. They never gave a third contract to they did for this guy. We can assume it's because they wanted to appease Rogers or whatever.
But this was this is not like the Packers, how they're treating Bakhtiari. And it is weird. And I don't I don't know enough about his inner workings of his knee to. To really make a point one way or the other, I just know it's like super frustrating. And the vagueness of it has been bothersome for fans.
The you know, all of a sudden he's there and he's waving on the field of the Bears fans and flipping them off. And it seems like he's OK. And then he's not. It's just there's no there's not been any clear answers from either side.
And maybe they don't know the answers and they're just making up as they go. But look, I don't know if David like David Bakhtiari, I agree with Matt towards the end. I don't think like I would be friends with him. Well, he wouldn't be friends with you.
I don't need everyone to be friends with me. I like he would be a guy that like I talked to and I quickly feel like, OK, we're good. And they might be vice versa for him.
But I don't know why I brought that point up. I just know that I'll be happier when he's not a Packer anymore. I think is similar with Rogers. It's just it's not worth it to wait around for this guy. And it sucks and whatever.
I mean, it just it just sucks. I never liked when he was on the big show. He's on the big show. When things were going great, he'd call every week. And then if he had a bad game or if there was something he would like, oh, David can't come on this week. OK. All right.
OK. No, that's of course. You knew the weeks like on Sunday. You knew after the game if Bakhtiari was coming on that Tuesday or not. You knew.
And I thought that was weird. So no Bakhtiari. Elton Jenkins off the injury report. And that leads us to our prediction about the Packers and the Raiders, where, again, assuming Devontae plays, Horvat and I feel pretty decent about the Packers. At least we start out that way. Hey, let's bring in Ryan Horvat for our Monday show. Hey, Horvat, happy birthday.
Hey, thanks, man. Twenty nine today. Feeling good. Next year, I'll be 30.
I'll feel a little bit older, but excited for the day. What better way to spend my birthday than at work? I wanted to go to Las Vegas for the Raiders Packers game, but it was declined. My request was declined.
What a perfect way to spend my birthday, though. My favorite team playing in my favorite location against my least favorite team, because those cucks stole Devontae Adams from us. That said, Devontae Adams reception prop over tonight. Devontae Adams anytime touchdown playing it tonight. Devontae Adams receiving yards playing them tonight. You got a prop for Devontae? I'm betting on it.
Revenge game. Even though he's the one that left us. Yeah, a lot of people want to be. Hey, the Packers should trade for Devontae. They ain't trading for Devontae. No, give us like I love Devontae, but we're not going to trade back for a 30 plus year old wide receiver.
He's great. He's still one of the best in the league, if not the best. We're not a Devontae away from a Super Bowl. No, we're like we might be like a defensive coordinator, a head coach, like fucking two linebackers, two safeties, a quarterback.
Oh, just kidding. Not I think the quarterback is like the only thing I actually have faith in with this team right now. We're at least five or six starters away from a Super Bowl. Like one week, Lafleur.
Here's the thing, right? All I heard about was how like Aaron Rodgers was changing plays at the line of scrimmage, which obviously he was doing with McCarthy, but I don't know that he was. I think Rodgers was running the Matt Lafleur offense. And I think that's why there were times where Rodgers would go over to the sideline and look like he wanted to rip Matt Lafleur's fucking face off, even though they were like best buds.
And I think it's right now, it's pretty early. But I won't be shocked by next year, week three, week four, if Jordan Love's not doing the same thing because I just watched that game again for the life of me. I'll never understand why you have Jordan Love going against the Lions who are getting pressure again at like a thirty six percent rate. Hutchinson's playing out of his mind.
You're down to your starting lineman, your two best linemen and Elton Jenkins and David Bakhtiari. And I know Aaron Jones is dinged and he's on a pitch count and Detroit's number five against the rush against the run. But you didn't even have the threat of run out there most of the time.
It was just like empty. They didn't run the ball until they were already down 14-3 in that game. The only reason they had three points was because they were gifted a short field and Lafleur's not calling any run plays. And then his first two run plays or halfback draws the AJ Dillon on first and second down to again then set Jordan Love up for a known passing down on third down.
Where Detroit's pass rush could just tee off. So like people were like shitting like casuals were like, maybe Jordan Love isn't the guy. No, maybe like Lafleur was hungover. Like that was the worst fucking play calling I've ever seen. It was bad. That was like Arthur Smith bad. That was Nathaniel Hackett bad.
Somebody somebody tweeted me like joking. I don't know how the NFL is scripted because like Lafleur seems like he always seems like he can't he can't like he's doing as best as he can. But there's different circumstances at play. Like I'm trying I just but this is the way it's got to be like it just there's something off with the way that he coaches to me. Where was all that shit from the first couple weeks of the season like I thought that the game plan against Chicago was perfect and I get again you're down some pieces and Jones is dinged. AJ Dillon's no good and you're down two linemen but like where's the pre snap motion that we saw. Where's the window dressing like where's the trick plays. Like are we just done with the trick plays because for whatever reason we tried one on fourth and two and it didn't work out.
Yeah it just hasn't I last week was bad. That said though perfect timing to bounce back because you get the Las Vegas Raiders and that shithole of the defense other than Crosby. Max Crosby. Really nobody on that defense is any good. There are other best players. If they lose this game.
Yeah. Like if they lose this game. I think Lafleur is undefeated heading into the bye actually I was reading the Packers dope sheet.
He is. I love the Packers in this game like love love love. They should they should destroy.
They should own. Why is it only a one point spread. I don't know maybe the Matt Lafleur maybe Devontae maybe.
I bet the over. I don't think either team is getting many stops in this game. I just like if they lose this game. Matt Lafleur. Matt Lafleur needs a fucking goal. Like I'm going to pick him to win this game. I'm not going to bet him to win. I'm not trying to be Matt Lafleur fire guy but I just don't think he's it man.
Is that wrong. I think it depends how they lose. Terry Bradshaw gargling through an interview on the podium with Matt Lafleur up there at the Super Bowl. So I think Lafleur's problem is like he's a smart guy. Sometimes he's creative with his play calling and I think the scripted stuff is really good. Like in the first quarter the first two drives are usually pretty good.
And then in the third quarter stuff's usually pretty good. But I don't think he's good at in-game adjustments or management. No he needs the he needs the world to pause.
He always gets out coached. He can like go up to his office figure out what to do. Then he'll come up with the right answer. But in the moment and I don't know if that's a lack of confidence or if that's he's just it's too much information.
It's too fast. The game needs to slow down for not Jordan Love but Matthew Patrick Lafleur. He's too fucking emotional for me sometimes like we're like Belichick is pissed and he's angry. Oh my god I guessed his middle name.
But he never looks like he's going to cry. That's his middle name. What Lafleur? No Patrick. Good good good guess.
That was just a guess. Matthew Patrick Matthew Patrick. I mean this guy this guy fucking no way he wasn't being taught by a nun in eighth grade. This is as Catholic as it gets. Matthew Patrick. I mean I'm Catholic.
So is that a shot? I mean am I technically I guess I am. You want to fight about it? I didn't have a nun in the eighth grade. Mr. Catherine was in the sixth grade.
I did have nuns in high school though. Yeah the Packers have to win this game man. One point favorites on the road. Total 44 and a half.
Like I said I like the over. They lose this game. I mean it depends how they lose this game. You know before you start calling for the heads of the coaching staff. But you know play calling has got to be much better. They're going to have to get Aaron Jones involved.
Lafleur shouldn't look like he's about to cry at half. There's no reason that Aaron Jones shouldn't have at least six to eight touches. Even if he's still dinged in the first half. And that's even too low because AJ Dillon's no good. Got to get Christian Watson involved in the offense. Even if it's not like Christian Watson ten targets. You know a couple jet sweeps. At least just like the threat of him being out there is the deep threat.
Opens things up. So it's hard to be worried about the Raiders. I'll be pissed if they lose this game. I'm really down on the Raiders. I think the goal for the Raiders should be let's suck. Let's get Caleb Williams or let's get Drake May. Because we just opened up a huge stadium in Las Vegas. And we want to be a big hit here. And I don't think Jimmy Garoppolo or Aiden O'Connell are going to move the needle. And I like Aiden O'Connell.
I'm glad he got a shot last week. So game two of the NLDS is tonight. And the Brewers should be in it. But I think one of the things that people were saying with the Brewers was why are you so mad? It's not like they're going to win against the Dodgers. And I'm like, well, okay, that's fine. But you should still beat this team that you played at home when you had like I even if the so if the Packers go like if they lose on Monday today, I'll be mad.
And then people will say, well, it's not like they're going to go anywhere. Well, yeah, but they should not lose this game. Like I want to see what we want to see is this team get better. This team improve.
We want to see signs. You know, you can't you can't lose to Detroit the way you did. And then respond with a loss against a shitty team. This team is bad.
No, I'm with you both is dumber than yours. Yeah, there's just like certain teams this year that you still want to beat, even if the goal isn't to win a Super Bowl. Like I don't want to lose the Minnesota least want to split with Minnesota. And this is the game like we're. Yeah, like because even if it's not even if it's a rebuild or a retool or whatever the fuck it is for Green Day. It should still be better than what the Raiders have going on. You know what I mean?
Which is usually shit culture. We're only a couple years removed from the rug stuff and the John Gruden stuff. We're like in like it. We're sort of in a rebuild. The Raiders are never in anything like they are Josh. Josh McDaniels is awful. He's so fucking bad. Everybody watched it a couple of weeks ago last week, whenever that game was where he kicked the field.
Go pick a one possession game, a one possession game that never got the ball back. Yeah, they call that the Matt Leflore. Yeah, he pulled the floor. He's got all these weapons on offense.
They're not even using Hunter Renfro. My guy Michael Mayer, not to be confused with John Mayer. Baby Gronk, they call him in Notre Dame.
Calling him fucking baby milk carton right now. Raiders lost the Super Bowl in 2002 because Baskin Robbins or whoever that lineman was fucking disappeared in the middle of the night. What was that guy's name?
Merritt Robbins or something like that? Yeah, he was like a mouth or something. And then since then they've made the playoffs twice. Once under Jack Del Rio and then once because Brandon Staley like escorted them into the wild card round. This team is trash.
They are terrible. That's what I'm saying. Like even if the Packers aren't winning 10-11 games or going to the Super Bowl this year, you still got to be in better shape than the Raiders, right? So the thing that scares me is Devante in this game. Who the fuck is going to cover Devante? Are we going to get Jair on Devante? Is Jair even going to play?
I don't know. And Devante knows just how shitty our defense is. I'm going to pick the Raiders.
What? Yeah, I think Devante is going to torch the Packers tonight. I owe goots at this game. How high would the over-under of catches have to be on Devante before he took under? In this game? Because I think it's possible he has 20 receptions. Yeah, how do you defend him?
Is it like Jair with safety help up top? Because like what fucking sa- Devante is going to have at least 30 targets. How does this game not go over?
I don't know. Devante is playing, right? Who? He's playing, right? Who? He's not like hurt.
Who are you talking about? Devante. Devante is going to be out there. Oh, he fucked up his shoulder.
He's playing. He's going to have my predicted statline for Devante tonight. 14 receptions, 225 yards. No, that's not realistic. I'll go 11 receptions, 175 yards, 2 touchdowns.
Raiders win 27-24. I don't want to do this, right? I'll be sad, but I have a bad feeling. I didn't want to trade fucking Devante Adams. I'm fine with the Rogers shit. The Devante stuff really hurts me every time I see him. Well, Rogers is the one that like... Devante is like... Here's what I think happened with Devante and Rogers.
Jordan Love deserves nice things too. Devante was never the option of a trade. It's like a guy who's on a diet, doesn't want to eat chocolate. And then one day, Devante goes to Rogers. I might want that piece of chocolate. And then Rogers goes, oh, okay. And he shoves it down his fucking throat. I'm like, I'll help you get traded.
Screw you. Devante, I miss Devante the most because I think Devante is a really good dude. And I also think he works really hard. I mean, you can tell he works really hard.
Look at the way that he transformed his body. You remember the drops early on in his career, all the shit that he had to deal with from schmucks like you. Demanding that he was...
I flat out said cut him. So I felt like he should have been one of those guys that was a packer for life. Same with Rogers, but if Rogers wanted to continue to play and it was time to go to Jordan Love, it was time to go to Jordan Love. But Devante would have been great for this team.
Right? Devante, Jordan Love. Yeah, Jordan Love should have nice things too, not just Luke Musgraves and fucking Jaden Reed. And I like these guys, but they're 22 years old.
What would help a young quarterback who's got all eyeballs on him and he's being evaluated this season and wants to get a big contract would be, I don't know, a top five NFL wide receiver. I think when you ask why the spread is one, that's why. Because I think Vegas looked at this and said all the things.
I think they went through the same thing. And then one of the guys is like, shit, Devante's going to have like 300 fucking yards, isn't he? It's a one-point favorite.
That's what's scary. Obviously, I can make the case for the Packers, right? Jordan Love plays out of his mind. Defense does their job. They play like there's nine first round picks. They turn over Derek Hart, Jimmy Garoppolo, Adrian O'Connell, whoever the fuck's out there, and they win that game handily. But the case I can make in my head is Packers' offensive line without David Bakhtiari, Max Crosby coming off the outside, who's blocking him, getting pressure. Jordan Love maybe serves up an interception.
There's a strip sack. There's a turnover. And they can't stop Devante.
That'd be my concern in this game. And the run. Like Josh Jacobs hasn't really... They finally got him going last week. Are they stopping the leading rushing leader? We saw what the Atlantages did to this team. I'm a little worried about this game. I'm not betting it, but yeah, I'll pick the Raiders. Devante revenge game. I hate myself. Well, I think the Packers step up on your birthday.
I think they're going to get the win. That's the other thing. It's my birthday, and I can't have nice things. They won't even give me the night off tonight.
It's bullshit. I agree. Well, why don't you just do what you would have done here? I'm glad that I could vent on this podcast where nobody will find me. What?
Thanks. I mean, my boss is. Just do the thing where you don't get the day off, and then all of a sudden you're sick. I was just really sick two weeks ago, so I don't think I... That's the problem.
When I'm sick, I'm actually sick. You got another family member that's almost dead? Hold on. Is your son in daycare yet? Yeah. Well, wait till... So is he sick every other week with a cough and sneezing and stuff? No, but I was sick all summer. That's what people don't understand.
When your kids start going to school, man, there's germs everywhere. Anyway, I'm picking the Raiders. I'm picking Devante. I got 1% on my computer. Whoa. I don't know what happened. Where'd you go?
I don't know. Perfect time to rap before my computer dies. Anyway, I got 1% I just realized. All right, thanks Horvat. Thanks, buddy. All right, couple more voicemails.
Again, wish Horvat a happy birthday and join us for the stream tonight. I didn't catch who sent this voicemail, but it was regarding the Badgers. Badgers won over Rutgers, so they're chugging along.
But this was a voicemail that came in. I'll play part of it. I'm still hearing about how bad the student session is. They're not filling up. There's two things about that. One, maybe not kick off at 11 a.m. during homecoming weekend.
I don't know. I mean, I haven't been in university for almost 30-some odd years. I'm 52. But I can't believe that people who are going to football games when I was going to school and kids are going to football games now, I'm going out and just getting shit canned drunk on the Friday night before homecoming. And who wants to wake up and try to be at a game by 11 a.m.?
Two, if you're going to kick off at 11 a.m., maybe play so many better than fucking Rutgers. All right? Who the hell is going to wake up, even if I didn't go out and get hammered the night before?
Who's going to get up and want to be a vehicle at 10 a.m. and wait in line so I can watch them kick off against Nebraska, Temple, Maryland? Whatever. Like, I'm done. That's it. I mean, change it. And if the power that be from the, you know, when you go in and you do the schedule timing, if we're not that good, if NBC, CBS, Fox, ESPN don't think that we are a quality enough team to be at a two o'clock kickoff at the same time, we're going to fucking work harder. Secondly, no offense, I mean, he's a college kid.
It is what it is. But Mordecai, under the 375 quarterbacks that I read about transferring through the portal to Wisconsin, after Stickle was hired, we settled on this guy. No offense. Like, he rained touch balls over 20 yards. Like, he was lucky in that first quarter not to have two interceptions.
I think Mordecai, I'll cut it off there. I thought, may I expect a little more out of him? I mean, they're, what are they, five and one? I just, he was putting up like 500 yard, five touchdown games at SMU, and it's just not happening in Wisconsin, which maybe, you know, that's not the, that's not ever, that was never on the table. But to go back to the student section point, someone had a great tweet showing the other end zone, which was not full, and it's of like, you know, the people that are complaining. I would say out of any topic that has been covered since I entered the sports radio world in 2014, this is the dumbest. This is the most unnecessary. It is the absolute meaningless topic.
Students getting in late. Who cares? Nobody cares. The only people that care are the people that care, and they shouldn't care. Does that make sense? Nobody anywhere else in the country is even aware of this problem, yet for people that it is a problem to, it's the biggest problem. They show up eventually.
It's just, it is how it is. The caller's right. You get, I mean, I remember the games that I would go to, I didn't go to Wisconsin, but I went to Madison enough for those games. You wake up at like 7.30. You start playing beer pong right away.
You start to stroll over maybe around 10. Stop at a few other places along the way that are just passing out beer or doing three-story beer bongs, and you get in when you get in. I mean, you're getting hammered, which is the point. In that state of your life, that is the point. And then you go to a football game where you cheer for a little bit, and there's no booze available.
I'm not going to rush to get away from my booze to go get non-booze. I don't know. I just, we're talking, I mean, yes, it's just so stupid. How can you care?
How can it impact your life in any way? I got another voicemail here, but Dan wants me to save it for Grant. Our UW Eagles beat Whitewater for the first time in 20 years off a walk-off field goal, so we'll do that later in the week. Do have one from Jeff about the Bucks.
Hey, Bart. It's Jeff from Milwaukee. I had one quick thought and question about Davey Willard and Giannis. Sorry I flew out of my truck driving to work, but do you think that Davey will be bringing the ball up to the full court, you know, when they are eating the offense? You know, Giannis is going to not be bringing the ball up to court so much, and how much that that would change and affect each other's games.
Just, I don't know, it seems like it always pisses me off seeing Giannis bring the ball up, you know, all the time, and I don't know. I'm curious to see if that will happen or if anybody is talking about that. I know it's early, so we don't know yet, but just wanted to hear your thoughts on that. That's it.
Have a good one. Well, they had a preseason game Sunday. Neither of them played. Bulls did play their starters, and they lost to the Bucks, 105-102. Who led the way from Milwaukee? Marjan Beauchamp, 18 points, 5 of 11. There we go.
Good to see. Crowder, Portis, Lopez, Brook, Malik Beasley, and Wigginton started, for what it's worth. Here's the thing about the Bucks and really the Celtics and this whole narrative. Drew, by the way, 2 for 10, if anybody noticed the Celtics game. Drew, I think Drew going to the Celtics, it's all about fit for me.
That's why the Nuggets, I still think are, I'll say Bucks are the favorite, but then I will say Nuggets, too. I will put them in the same breath, because they had a superstar, and they built the perfect team around that guy. I don't think it's about building the perfect team.
It's about finding the superstar and building around them. Tatum and Brown have always played a similar type role, where obviously you can use them to great success, but does Drew fit them? Does Drew fit them? I think Marcus Smart might have fit them more. Drew's got a tendency to chuck up early shot clock shots that brick, and we don't want to be slandering Drew.
We love Drew. But this fit with Damian and Giannis. I think people are talking and talking and talking, but once they see it, Giannis, his whole life, his whole career, has been a guy who has needed, if he's going to play with somebody, needed guys that he can distribute the ball to, like Giannis going in and then kicking it out, knocking down threes.
That's what we've needed. And we've tried to get guys to do that, whether it was Jake Crowder or Nikola Mirotic or Mirza Teledevic or Chris Middleton even or Pat Connaughton, and some guys have done it. Grayson Allen, some guys have done it better than others. But he needs a guy who, when he's coming down the floor, like you look at Chris and you say, all right, if Giannis passes to him, fine. We'll let him beat us.
Same with Drew. And so three guys build a wall. I mean, that's the reason the wall has been so successful is because Giannis commands that much attention and there hasn't been another threat to take one of those guys off the wall. Well, Damian Lillard's out in Portland being basically the point guard version of Giannis, and he's commanding two, three guys on him.
And who's he going to kick it out to? Like, who's his best teammate of all time? It's Giannis already at one and then probably Middleton at two and Brook at three. That's C.J. McCollum and LaMarcus Aldridge erasure. But my goodness, like, Damian's needed a guy like Giannis his whole career. Giannis has needed a guy like Damian.
They are the perfect match for each other. The only more perfect way for these two styles would be Steph and Giannis, I think. But it's Dame. It's Dame. People are excited, not just because it's like that's where we're that's where what's getting lost. People aren't excited. They are excited because it's Dame. They are. But it's Dame with Giannis.
That's what it is. It's Dame, yes. But it's Dame with Giannis. Like, if you trade Giannis, you hope to get someone as good as Dame back. This is Dame and Giannis together when you still have pretty much everyone else except Drew. You still got Brook. You still got Bobby.
You still got Chris Middleton. I just I don't think people are like unless they are ready and they're trying not to believe it, but the Bucks are going to kick some serious ass. Their win total is 48 and a half. What a crime.
It's criminal. You think this team with Giannis and Dame is going to lose 32 games? No. No.
We'll see how much they play and barring injury, but no. You have to bet over on that. I just I can't wait to see it.
All right. Live show Monday night talking Packers Raiders. Until then, I do hope Devante plays. It'll make the game more interesting. But I kind of hope he doesn't play because he's going to have 20 catches against us. And that part would suck. But we'll see.
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