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Good morning. My name is Bart Winkler. This is the Bart Winkler Show. It's great to be with you. on this Friday.
November 3. We got a busy weekend this weekend. We got some bucks. We got the Badgers, they got Indiana. We got the Packers.
They got the Rams. And baseball news starts to trickle in. And out now that the World Series Is done, which I want to talk about. For a second, not necessarily baseball. But Uh my my reaction to reactions.
I need to. I need to I want to expose myself. to you guys. Not like in an alley with Q. kind of situation but I want to expose my deep, dark secrets.
Or just the way that I think I might feel about something. And it'll probably be. irrelevant but I do I do have that thought.
So that's a sexy tease. Also, I'm not even sure if this right now that I'm saying. will end up being part of the podcast. I hope that it is. This is my fourth crack.
At starting the episode. The first time I did it, I was trying to do it in my Living room, and it was it's just too open. Audio was bad. Second time. I had to do it because I had shit internet again.
I still, I gotta call ATT. Why am I waiting? And then the third time was, I got a text that I had to respond to instantly. There's been three previous editions of this. That I've already stopped and deleted.
And I tell you that because every single time, I started by going. Good morning, everybody. I should have done that the other day. I thought that was good enough content to do four times. And to publish it.
I thought I just, I cannot. People must have the good morning, everybody. You must get it. I couldn't resist. It was deep within me, and I had to get it out.
Okay.
So there you are. There you are. I saw I follow some of these guys down in uh Dallas, down at the fan there. I forget if it's 1053 or 1033 or. Nobody ever knows.
People would always bring me on. Oh, we got Bart Winkler from 125007, the fan. What the fuck? Come on, just close enough. You don't correct them.
You don't be like, well, actually, it's 105.7.1075. Yeah, you don't correct them because no one cares. They don't care. Their audience doesn't care. You don't care.
So I don't know. But it's Shannon RJ, I'm pretty sure. And I see what they've been tweeting during this Rangers. World Series run. And it's been, you know, it's fun.
It's always fun when you sort of know someone or have talked to someone or. Other people on radio, it is fun to see. How they react towards championships. And we know because we've had championships, we had a championship, the Bucs won. And we've been a part of Packer Championships.
And I think the Bucks won, obviously, that was when I was working in radio, and that's when I can identify the most. But you look at them celebrating, and you think back to when you were celebrating, and see how they're doing things, and think about how you did things. See how their fans are reacting, thinking about how the fans here reacted.
So it's kind of neat to follow. I saw a lot of video on Well, it would have been Wednesday night when the Rangers won the World Series. And there were a lot of fans like. Just unbridled emotion. Like this is what they were waiting for their whole life.
Where the Rangers won a World Series, and it was the culmination of everything they've ever wanted as a sports fan. And if you're in Dallas and you like all the Dallas teams, I have no idea what the stars have been up to, so that doesn't count. But the Cowboys probably have not won in a long time in your lifetime. Maybe when you were a boy. Maybe there's a lot of Dallas fans that don't remember that.
Maybe it's just so long ago. The Mavs got that title. But You know, you won a championship so bad and so. I think what happens is we kind of Bunch our teams together a little bit. I've often said that the Bucks winning.
Wasn't just an expression of joy because we saw our Bucs win. It was because we saw someone win. The box For better, for worse. They were carrying the weight of all the other teams' playoff failures. At least to me, it might be different to other people, but at least to me, when I saw the Bucs make that run, they were carrying the failures of the Packers, of the Brewers, of the Wisconsin Badgers.
The year they were ranked in the college football playoff for a little bit, or even the basketball team. And they were carrying the failures of their own. of their own failures.
So when they won a championship, it's not just This team, I never, ever, ever thought growing up would ever win a championship or even be like in contention. I mean, do you remember freaking out when? We got our first like TNT game in 10 years. I was like, holy shit, we're actually in the league. We actually exist.
Wow. And then to be a title contender and then to win a championship. It's so much joy. And I remember, obviously, I could share videos. I got a bunch from that night where I'm like, I'm like crying.
I'm just like so emotional. The last few minutes of the Bucs winning a title. I was in disbelief and I didn't, I wouldn't let myself celebrate. My body couldn't. I tried, but my body couldn't celebrate.
Until it actually went final, so I knew we were good, and it was just and then and it was just like emotion, it's You know, you're a sports fan and You spend a lot of time on something, and then when the thing happens that you aren't ever sure is going to happen or you always wanted to happen or both There's a lot of emotions there.
So when I saw Rangers fans celebrating. I kind of thought like of all the other teams that they root for. And the Rangers had not won. A World Series.
So, this is a big deal. Obviously, for them. And then it's easy to think right away to the brewers. And I saw some of these Rangers fans. Down on their knees.
Crying. In tears. Can't believe it. And I don't know. And I say this now.
And if it ever happens, I'm sure it'll be blasphemy. But I don't know that I would react. I don't know. What I'm saying is, I don't think that the way I reacted when the Bucs won. I don't feel I would react that strongly if the Brewers ever won a World Series.
Even though the Brewers have been a love of mine forever. Even though it does seem impossible, even though there's been a lot of hardship. I don't know that I would ever Like would I be giddy and cry and would I be at a level of Disbelief? Because I think Like I don't want to Reference Sex necessarily. But it's it's like God, I can't, I can't, I can't.
I always think of Shane's kids. In the car. Dan, fast forward a minute. Two minutes. Dan Shaney, YouTube stream.
Check out all our great videos. But You know. Uh There's something you have your first moment of. And then sure it gets better and you're better at celebrating those moments. But the first, you know, you can only have, you can only, you can only do something for the first time for the first time.
And so I'm a little nervous as a buck, as a Brewers fan. That I won't give them my full Joy. If the Brewers ever won a World Series, would I really give them my full joy? Or did I already use some of that joy? Win the box one.
Now Packers are irrelevant from this. And I, you know, you got there's probably a lot of this that's disagreed with. And I'm just saying this from my perspective, there's probably a lot that's disagreed with. I don't think you can ever have too many Super Bowls.
So, if we won a Super Bowl every year, I would celebrate it like it was the feels like the first time every year. You can never have enough Super Bowls. Super Bowls is a different thing. It is a different thing. For me, this is again, this is just how I feel.
You may be different. And I would like to hear some responses. This could be a good Carl's Place voicemail over the weekend that I could circle back to next week about. What I'm saying here. But I think if the Brewers won, obviously, I'd be pretty pumped up and I'd get more into it.
Like, I'm so detached from the thought of the Brewers ever winning a World Series right now that if this, if they won the World Series on Wednesday night, I'm sure it'd be going crazy. And I'm just thinking of this because I'm way like a 30,000-foot view here. I'm thinking, oh, look at those ants down there. How can they ever be, you know? Yeah.
But I wonder, because the Bucks, it was a first, it was a first. Brewer's Orbox. And I don't know if uh If the Brewers, I just see these Rangers fans, maybe you have to see the same videos that I'm looking at. To look at them, and I'm not thinking they're weird. I don't think they're wrong.
I don't make fun of them, I don't mock them. I just look at them and I think, I don't know that that's me. I don't know that that would be me. It would have been me in 2018. And probably 2019.
And probably every time until the Brewers. Or at least until the Bucs won the championship. I think when the Bucs won. won the championship I think it like I think it. Future spoiled my enjoyment of when the Brewers won a World Series.
I know this is a hypothetical. But I watch some of these Rangers fans, and I'm just like, I don't know that I would feel that way about my baseball team. And I'm a little down on baseball right now because. I think the playoff structure is messed, and the Brewers this year just over and over. This is getting really.
Like this sucks. Bites of the apple is. You don't wish that upon your worst enemy. This blows actually when you don't win. All these other teams have bit the apple, like the brewers have the right strategy, it's just It works for every other team except for us.
Which is the most cruel. We did this thing. This is our thing. Try to get hot. Bites of the apple, be just good enough to get in and then anything goes.
And all these other teams are succeeding. And that's why it does suck. when they make a big run. After they beat us, Diamondbacks go to the World Series, Nationals, Braves, all these teams go to the World Series. That does suck.
A lot. I'm just wondering. I guess what I'm wondering here is. Will I celebrate if the Brewers ever win a World Series? Will I celebrate it the same way I would have?
If the Bucs had not won an NBA championship. More thoughts on this in a minute. Do want to tell you guys about Tupelo Honey. I've been talking about these guys this week. I'm so excited to.
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They've got plenty of things that are booze-free with their Southern sodas for the kids or. For a lot of people that listen, I do, I, I. I do feel like You know, when you like. Drink. I drink because everyone else is.
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I I think, so I'm trying to think like how I will. I said Super Bowls, you can never have enough Super Bowls. The Bucs winning an NBA championship. If I could pick right now. And I don't want to get myself in trouble here.
I do not want to get myself in trouble. Because there's this one guy, I think I blocked him years ago, but it was like. I don't know. I said one thing a long time ago where I ranked what I would want. And I think I put Packers Super Bowl, and then I put USA winning a World Cup.
USA winning a World Cup would be an immensely great moment in my life. I'm not going to downplay from that. That seems impossible. The USA men winning a World Cup. Does not even seem like it's ever possible.
They'd be like Oh I'm going to go to the moon for 10 minutes and come back. Like, that's not. Feasible. That it's so impossible that if the USA ever won a World Cup, the journey to get there would culminate in me crying like a Like a Like a person who cries.
So I shouldn't But every time the Bucks winner, I talk about, oh, I can't, I want the Bucks to win the title. This guy would be like, oh, you said, yes, I did say that. What do you want? Me to take it back? Fuck you.
If the USA men ever won a World Cup. I don't even know. I mean, that would be, that would be bonkers. I don't even know how I would react. I might want.
I might say that I would want a Bucs championship. If I could pick right now Bucks Championship or Bucks Championships. Brewer's World Series. I might be an asshole and say Bucs championship again. Because I want another one.
And with football, like you want a Super Bowl. Super Bowl means everything. Like I said. The NBA, it's much more personal. It's just so.
The NBA is so personal. Everything about it is so personal. And I don't feel the same like that in baseball. Again, you may be different. I'm just talking about me.
But when it comes to the NBA, Every time we lose to the Celtics or lose to the Sixers. I take that shit so personal.
Okay.
And even when like Even when like uh Bucks fans. are doubting their team. Right? I take that shit so personal.
The way that people are acting about Adrian Griffin's 2-2 start. I think I take it very personal. And Adrian Griffin might be bad. He might be bad. I'm not saying that like...
If you think, I've seen four games and Adrian Griffin, I think he might be bad. The same way I am with Jordan Love. I think you need to let these takes like. You need to see it happen for a while. I don't know if Adrian Griffin's bad.
The first four games. Show you some things that you don't like and that You probably shouldn't like, especially defensively. And Not saying that they were going to go undefeated the whole season, but. I mean, we got Damian Lillard. Can we be a little better?
And everyone says their defense is going to be a liability. No, no. And really, the defense liability, it's not just because Drew left. The the schemes The aggressiveness, maybe the way that Adrian Griffin wants to attack on defense isn't going to fly with this. Group.
I mean Lopez is getting exposed. Again, I'll have boots on the ground, my own boots. Friday night. NBA Cup. I will be there.
Ready to go. Can't wait for it. Very excited. To see this in action, I still think it is just too early. If you like, What I told somebody was.
If you think Adrian Griffin is not the guy, You should not give birth to that thought yet. It still needs to be inside. It's a fetus. It's like an egg. I mean, maybe it just met up with a sperm.
This is a very, it's so early in the process. It's like The minute after Your wife is pregnant or whoever. She goes I'm pregnant and you go. Our kid's an asshole. Uh how do you know?
How can you how can you make a determination? It's so young. Paul Henning had a tweet on Wednesday night. Wes Eden's better keep sending those salary checks to Terry Stotts. Maybe there's a reason that 14 teams passed on giving Griffin a head coaching job.
This is getting ugly fast. We've had a camp preseason and championship veteran roster. To misuse the talent this bad is alarming. I quote tweeted that and said. Fast forward to a month from now when Henning Acts like the Bucs winning the NBA Cup.
Is uh Like finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. And I don't know if maybe not everybody here knows Paul Henning. He was part of the Save Our Bucks campaign. I've actually met and worked with Paul. We did a Save Our Bucks show together.
You know, we see each other, we say hi. Paul blocked me, I'm just realizing. I had to go look at that tweet on someone who texted to me. I just went to go look, Paul blocked me. Paul and I Did a save our buck show together?
We invite him to the studio. Give him airtime. I host with him. We always had that linked. And wow, Paul Henning blocked me.
Wow. What what wow Amazing. Amazing. I'm finding this out live. This is raw reaction to Paul Henning blocking me.
But this is very emotional stuff. And if you know if like if you you know that Henning would be the first one acting like. The Bucs winning the NBA Cup is the greatest fucking thing that ever happened in his life. You know that. He'd be like, I didn't think it would be this way.
New sentence. This is incredible. New sentence. Championships are good no matter how you get them. New sentence.
Another championship for my Bucks. I would have never like he would be all emotional and poetic about it. I know you know he would. And he knows he would. That's why he blocked me.
That's why. All right. Henning, speaking of the NBA Cup. Here's a voicemail. From Matt in the Falls on the Carls Place voicemail line.
Carl of E.T. Dot com backslash bart Check out the golf simulators. What I did see, one of those Rangers fans I mentioned. I did see. Um One of them was watching the game on a golf simulator screen.
Now, I don't know if that was Carl's or not. He does ship them nationwide, but. You can do that too. you can put the game on Your simulator screen. You can put it on and put it in a little corner and golf while you're watching the game.
Lots you can do with that. Again, all I'm asking is to go to carlovt.com backslash part and like look, just check it out. A lot of cool stuff.
So here's Matt. Hey Bart.
So it's Thursday. I hear the NBA in-season tournament thing starts tomorrow. I only know this because of your show. Um I don't really know anything about in season tournament because I think it is Such a dumb idea. that I had refused to look it up and and figure out how works and what anything about it.
But I do care enough to call in and ask for just a quick overview for the show tomorrow in the Yeah. kind of you know take it in and get ready because I I I don't care enough to look it up and read about it. like Yeah, I think it's a very good idea. Make the effort to listen to other people speak about it. I'm saying So thanks in advance, buddy.
Have a good one.
Well, you missed uh you must have missed Q's great breakdown. Uh on it the other night. And you can go find that. Here, I'll tell you about the NBA Cup from what I understand. From what I understand, There are three groups of five.
The Bucks are in a group, obviously. If you win your group, you go to the next round, and then I think it's one wild card because then they take.
So, these games are happening Tuesday and Friday, the rest of the month. They count as regular season games. And they count for the cup.
So they count for the regular season game. Whatever happens, if the Bucks lose, they're two and three. If they win, they're three and two. Then it also counts in a different standings. for the NBA Cup.
and then they'll look at who the top four teams are in each thing. They play a quick little tournament. Um championships in Vegas on a Saturday in December. NBA Cup. That's what I understand.
So I think she'll win the NBA Cup. Or to advance, you're going to need to win your group. Probably win three of the four games. It's gonna be tough to get a wild card if there is only the one. I think.
Again, that's as far as I'll go. And then if anybody else wants to elaborate further, I don't want to look it up either. But I would be willing to listen to another person. look it up and kind of extend this game of telephone. with Matt and the Falls here.
But again, no matter what happens on Friday, That game counts. That game counts. They're either going to win. or lose. And it will count in the standings.
So It will count. They're wearing their blue uniforms, the new ones, which they're trying to be like: hey, look, this patch of gravel is actually. Your heads from the deer district.
Okay.
Nice stretch. And a new court. And again, I will be boots on the ground. for that coming up. Uh Friday.
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Happyplacehemp.com. Brewer's making some news now that the season has come to an end. We officially have some guys as free agents.
So now it's about: do you want these guys back or not? Victor Carantini is a free agent. Sure. Josh Donaldson. I guess.
Colin Ray. Yeah, right. Darren Ruff. Mm. Carlos Santana, why not?
Jesse Winker. LOL.
So those guys are free agents officially. Also, apparently. Jimmy Hoffa's body might be buried under hellfare field.
So this is a random ass story. Fox 6. Volunteer cold case investigators believe the body of former Teamsters president Jimmy Hoffa could have been buried. where Milwaukee County Stadium's third base was. Currently paved over outside American Family Field.
Um why do they think this?
Someone called the Case Breakers did this study. There's something with an ace of spades card that says Jay Hoffa. And then phonetically spells a known mobster, Joe Aupa. Ending with third base Milwaukee Ballpark 916-95. I hope it is.
I honestly, I think we should dig it up. Why aren't we digging it up right now? If there's a chance that that body is under there. That's the curse we've all been wondering about. The Brewers are cursed.
And this so if he's buried in 95 That's during that shitty MB motorbane logo era. I know some disagree. But if they were buried in 90 That's absolutely the curse because you changed the ball and glove logo, and then you buried this guy under third base. Dig it up now! Get his body out there!
Throw it in the river. Get it away from me. Get it out. Dig it up. Let's get Geraldo Rivera on it.
Fox primetime special. Open that tomb. Come on. The Brewers also made another announcement last week, and they are going to have a winter warm-up fan fest.
Now, this time it will be at the Uh Miller High Life Theater. But at least it's not out at a bar. Last year, they're like, I don't know. Do people like the brewers? Let's have it at a bar and have 500 people line up across the street.
Real dumb.
So at least the brewers. Or at least pretending to act like a major league team again. When it comes to that. part of things.
So That's good.
Okay, no Horvont today. As you may have guessed, uh no horribat today, he had some Weird DMV situation.
So wasn't able to connect with him. We'll try to do that again next week. I am going to air an interview here that I have not yet aired. It's with Bart Lundy. UWM head coach.
for the Milwaukee Panthers. Got to sit down with him in his office. A week ago, and excited to bring that to you. I will just go through my picks here, real quick. I would have had the Steelers.
Packers I think these motherfuckers are going to get a win. But I'm not going to take him to cover at three and a half. Chiefs and Dolphins. I'll take the Dolphins in London to get a win. Falcons, four and a half over the Vikings.
Ooh. Uh I will go with the Give me the Falcons. Browns, eight-point favorites over the Cardinals. I'd like them to win, not cover. Patriots over the Commanders.
I'll take the three. Saints over the Bears, eight and a half. I take the Bears to cover. Ravens, six-point favorites against the Seahawks at home. I think you might see a Ravens-Lions game again.
Seahawks are good, but the Ravens at home. Against these NFC teams, I don't think they're going to be too concerned. I'll take the Ravens. Texans to lose at home to the Buccaneers. Give me a buccaneer bounce back.
Panthers, two and a half point underdogs against the Colts. I think the Panthers squeak out another win. I'll take the Panthers at home. Raiders, one and a half point. Favorites at home against the Giants.
Yeah, new head coach Antonio Pierce. All right, let's go. Raiders. Eagles, three-point favorites at home against the Cowboys. I want to take the Cowboys, but I'll take Philly.
Bengals against the Bills. Two-point favorites. Bengals are flying high, Bills are rocky, bills in an upset. And then Jets and Chargers. I'll take the Chargers three and a half point favorites Monday night.
against the Jets. All right, let's hear from Bart Lundy. UWM Men's basketball. Head coach. Last time we talked in this office.
It was a little more chaotic, I think. It was your first year on the program. You had Purdue in like two weeks. How is it this year compared to then? Probably a lot.
You like feel like you're. In a home, you feel like you're home in this office. Yeah, I don't think this office was decorated at that time. I don't think I had. I'm not sure.
I don't think you had anything personal in it. I think there were the wall boxes, they were still in here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So it's been decorated.
So that, other than that, it's still chaotic. And we have. um Providence and Colorado in three weeks.
So. Yeah, well, I mean, that's similar but different. Yeah. No Zach Eady, so no 7-4 first team All-Americans. How do you feel about the team?
Coming in, just broadly generic question. I mean, I think the results you had last year, you know, first-year head coach, and you'd been accustomed to winning 20-some games every season, and you were able to do that again with the Panthers. Fan interest gaining throughout the year, like we talked about, but where do you guys feel like you are now? in terms of some of the goals that you're hoping to reach as the season progresses? uh it's it's you know it's hard to tell um i i like our team but it is a different team you know it's uh that team last year was good we do have some guys that have now developed for a year and i've got guys that have some corporate knowledge but we still have a lot of a lot of new faces so 23 new recruits in two years so if you could process that so it's been turnover and finally we have a stable roster so going forward um you know 13 new ones last year but another another big group um and so we have 18 guys so some of those are walk-ons but uh you know it's it's still a work in progress so every team's different and uh I like our chances and I like what we're doing right now, but we'll see how it translates.
It's nice, I think, when you were For Media Day last year, I think it was Angelo and BJ up there with you also. A year ago. And that's got to be nice to have. You know, first-year head coach, you get some guys that you might be familiar with, but these are guys that, as you say, they know the program, they know Milwaukee, they know what you want.
So you don't have to just be. The guy that people can lean on, I think. Players can lean on other players, though. Yeah. Yeah.
It was. Not only that, but I only had one guy on staff that had ever coached with me. And we have continuity with the players, and we had zero turnover on our staff.
So, yeah, I'm a little more comfortable. I don't know if that translates to wins and championships and all that, but there's a lot that goes into it. But having continuity in your program in any sport in this day and age is one of the most difficult things. There is a difference if you drive by campus, if you get to be on campus, there's a brand new practice facility which. When you think of where basketball teams would practice.
I mean, it's one thing to practice where I mean, it's one thing. Like, I think of my high school where it's all right, the basketball's on one side, softball's doing another thing. There might be track in here. You know, and whatever. You guys have your own dedicated facility with the women's team.
for basketball, your own gym. And I think like You know, this has been in motion for a while. It's just so much better. It has to be to tell a recruit, and this is where this is going to be, and this is going to be really nice. But then you can be like, come on in and see it.
I mean, that practice facility. I don't know, like, does it equate to one win or two wins? It's impossible to tell. But it's got to just be so nice to have your own dedicated space. It is.
And last year, And the coaches before me really did have a challenging situation. Your description of your high school situation is not exactly what we had to deal with, but not far off. And, you know, we're at the end of the day, we're teachers, and that is our classroom. You know, it's where we teach our players.
So having that dedicated space, having it be quiet and nobody running the track around you and nobody hitting baseballs in the corner and nothing against the baseball team and the track team, they're excellent. But yeah, it's fairly distracting. I have trouble keeping their attention to begin with. And, you know, that made it doubly hard. And then, you know, part of What we sell our players on is you're gonna, the experience we give you is gonna be, it's gonna be the, Um Best you can possibly get.
We're going to develop you in every way, on and off the court. And we're going to give you every opportunity to develop into the best you can be that you would get at a Marquette or a Wisconsin. And with this facility, we can live up to that. And that was part of my decision to come to take this job, I could see that vision.
So to see it come to fruition is pretty nice. Do you notice anything with Like, obviously, the Bucs are really good right now, and Marquette's ranked very high. Is there Because basketball and you guys are coming off a 20 plus win season. Is there a rising tide situation happening where Like you guys are creating your own momentum, but there's also just the momentum. Of basketball in Milwaukee, do you feel any of that?
Yeah, for sure. We're exciting to watch. We are exciting to watch. Our style, we got good players. We're super athletic.
But then you can go see the Bucs with Dame and Giannis. Yeah. Our. Does Milwaukee understand what we have going right now? No.
And then Marquette is. Marquette could win it all. You know, they're that good.
Well, they have to get through you in the tournament. They'd have to get through us in the tournament. But then, and then, you know, hopefully, you know, that all. People in Milwaukee feel that, and we start to get folks from outside of Milwaukee coming in and seeing there's a lot of good basketball. And you know what?
We're across the parking lot from each other. You know, it's you could spend a week in that area and see a lot of good basketball.
So hopefully people take advantage of it. Hopefully, it's a special time in Milwaukee. I know the last time that our university made a run, there was also a Marquette and a Wisconsin run. I'm not sure where the Bucks were at that time, but they were bad. They were bad.
So, so got more going now. Yeah, they were very bad, I think, if I remember right. But no, that the When we talked to you in the office last year. We meaning just me. But um I we talked about like there are Pockets of fans that just need, they just need to see that the team is competitive.
and fun and winning. And then they'll start to come out a little again, a little bit more. They'll start to make different nights. They'll start to make it a. Hey, what are you doing this weekend?
Oh, Milwaukee plays. I want to go see the Panthers. Have you noticed that since we kind of talked a year ago about it? Yeah, yeah. I I'll I'll tell you the truth.
After we talked, we had our first home game in the at the arena and I looked around at the crowd and I go, Are you kidding me? What did I do to myself? And uh but by the end, we played uh we actually Hosted the quarterfinal here against Wright State. And it was a packed crowd. They're not sure how many fans were here.
The students were coming up the back entrances, and there's a lot of you-you saw there's a lot of ways to get up there through this building. It's a maze.
So, they don't really know how many fans were there, but it was electric and it was great to see. And I've spent personally spent the entire summer. in the city trying to develop relationships with folks. And now I'm going to turn that to the students and try to start getting the students out.
So hopefully with all of that, we get some synergy and hopefully Marquette and the Bucks and the excitement of basketball helps.
Well, I'm going to equate you to Deion Sanders. If you just follow me for a minute, because I'm glass. Yeah, yeah, get your hat. What I think about. Is there's kids?
There's students that went to Colorado. A couple of years ago, as just like a student. And the you know, do you want to go to the football game? No, we suck. I don't want to go there.
All of a sudden they're juniors and seniors. And Hollywood is descending on their campus because the football place has become the place to be.
So when I was talking about that, I meant like kind of in the community, but Just to give the students something that they can write in the city. um be a part of and have Some sense of pride. and do something like together I think that is co cool to see too and that's i think maybe what you saw throughout the year is Hey. Are the thing the place I go? We're good.
We can go watch that. Yeah. So you're like the Dion of Milwaukee. I can look at that a few different ways, but I appreciate it. Just don't lose games you're supposed to win.
Yeah, you've got to win games. You're supposed to lose.
So, part of what I've seen at Milwaukee. Guys like you, I don't know how they were when you were here, but through that Bruce Pearl era. Those are the guys that still come to the games, that still want to be a part of the program because that was their experience. They had a, he was. Pearl was Deion Sanders then of Milwaukee.
And if we can get that magic and that energy coming back, but you got to win. You got to get it done. Yeah. Dion's only as good as. His last game.
And some sunglasses.
So, well, we gotta start getting some gimmicks like some sunglasses. You're at Colorado. You're going there. I'm going to have Dion speak to our team before. Yeah, there you go.
Just give him a call. I will. One thing that has changed in college. And it's been there a little bit, but. You know, you're constantly recruiting is a big part of the job.
But more so now with the ability to get in that portal. You almost like every day are sort of recruiting your own guys to stay. And I think, you know, BJ is a guy that people are like, hey, this guy's pretty good.
Now you got to kind of fight against that. How much harder is that made? your overall job that you're recruiting elsewhere. But you've also got to cultivate a place. Which he talked about in the in the media presser Is this, you know, it's a sense of home.
This is where I want to be. These guys, I connect with them. I would think that's just a whole nother obstacle that Maybe you didn't ever foresee when you started coaching. Yeah, it's really difficult.
So that's just to give some perspective. Here's BJ Freeman, who, you know, he had a few options, but we might have been his best option, you know, coming out of one year of junior college. And then six months, eight months later, He's had a good sophomore year. Not only does, you know, people have always tried to poke players out, but before they had to sit out a year and there was no NIL.
So now BJ Freeman could leave, be eligible next year for a different team. And I can't, I won't even get into the specifics of how much money he was offered because people will say, well, he maybe should have taken on to the point where, you know, I have to look at him and say, BJ, I can't tell you what I would do. You know, so. We've we create the best situation we can. We give them the best experience.
They know we care about them. We're developing them. We've got a long term plan for their success. And you hope that, that that trumps some of the other other, you know, things that are out there. It's tough.
It is tough. I don't uh envy it, but You seem to have pulled it off with a few of your guys and bring in more. And it's the constant, there's some kids, uh, From Milwaukee, have you made an effort to? to really recruit in city or Make that more of a priority. Yeah, we're really trying.
Mark Miller, who is the guru of prep basketball, he's here today for our media day. And we are Larry Davis to come back. And we've got Simeon Murchison, true freshman from here in the city.
So we're doing our best to start to cultivate those relationships and recruit those kids. Part of the reality of men's college basketball right now, and especially at the mid-major level, is you have to stay old. You can't, there are 24, 25-year-olds playing, still playing because of the COVID year.
Now, that starts to cycle out after this year. You can't have a bunch of 18-year-olds playing against a bunch of 24-year-olds. It's meant against boys. And you'll still, even without the COVID, you'll still have guys that. You know, maybe can make some money yet.
If they were going to go pro, who knows? I could go, I don't know if I can go pro, I can go to Spain, or I could stay where I am, yeah, finish, get my degree. You know, make a little money if I get an NIL deal.
So that's the same thing. I mean, you're getting old. Yeah. And the NIL will, you know, Timmy at Gonzaga, you know, he would have. Probably gone pro earlier, but they had no guarantees.
And so he probably made more money staying at Gonzaga than he did leaving.
So the NIO and the portal changes everything. All right, one more. When w So when I do a sports radio show. Yeah. When I drive home.
I don't listen to sports radio. I don't, I don't know. I've never. I can't like Because I'll either get mad that somebody's doing something good. or I'll get mad that somebody's doing something bad.
And so I don't. Listen to a lot of other sports talk. How much basketball are you watching outside of your job? Are you able to watch a lot? Do you enjoy it?
Is it like, I just did this all day? How much hoops do you watch?
Well, it might be a little different for me because I have to watch so much of my own team. And so much of the next opponent.
So I'm watching a lot of basketball. Are you going to sit down after a long day doing that and watch Clippers' Sons? Um Sometimes I like to watch with my son, but. Uh I will watch, you know, I still have I do. My former assistants head coach at Queen, some of my former players.
I work for Buzz Williams. I have different coaches out there that I want to watch their teams. But yeah, I would say the older I get, the less I do that. I probably am similar to your sentiment.
Well, I just like it. Either way, I'm going to get mad. I'm going to get mad that I didn't think of it. Or I'm going to get mad that They're they are bad. Coach Bart Lundy.
Thank you, man. Yeah. Thanks, Bart. Still one more interview. Let's tack it on.
I'm going to tack on. Danny Vietti, he joined us. He covers the MLB. For uh CBS Sports. And runs a bunch of their social media.
So I talked to him on the uh, I was gonna say Zach Gell, but. I guess it was the Bart Winkler show where Flying by uh fill-ins for a while here on CBS Sports Radio, and I talked to Danny Vietti, so that'll come up here in a couple minutes about my crazy proposals where. People are very, very mad at me. What's new? Hey.
I move the needle. I got hot takes on Twitter. Long are the days where People like locally shit on me. Probably 'cause I blocked 'em all. But now it's like other fan base is finding me.
Phillies fans very mad. Very mad that I said the baseball season should be shorter. I did get a couple more voicemails from Matt in the Falls.
So I'll play those here. Short ones, just more reaction to The show we put out on Thursday. Here's Matt in the Falls. Hey guys, it's me. Um I I hear a lot of um a lot of talk about the uh WNBA Milwaukee Highway.
A lot of laughter. a lot of giggles, a lot of jokes. Um I just want to you know, throw a friendly reminder out there. There's this team called the the Yukon Husky. Yes.
I don't know if you've ever heard of them, but they're kind of a well known women's basketball team.
So you might want to go back to the internet. board on in the log. Very good. Love you. That's another Carl's Place voicemail.
Carlo VT.com/slash Bart. I got these calls. Matt must have been listening around six o'clock. I got these calls around then. It's fun putting out a podcast.
I talked to a class today at Concordia and I said, it's weird, you know, when you're on the radio and you say something, you get instant reaction. And then, when I put out a podcast, I'm getting reaction at 8 a.m., getting reaction at 10, I'm getting reaction at night, I'll get reaction later. And you guys keep telling me what I said. I don't fucking remember any of it. One more from Matt.
Hi, Bart. Uh me again. Uh third voicemail of the day. Uh what can I say? It's been a provocative show.
Um Just listen to this great idea about moving the baseball season around, having it end. It's early September. You know, cut down the games. Unfortunately, that will never happen. because of money.
Yeah, I know it won't happen, but I had nothing else to talk about on CBS this week, and I got about three, four hours out of it over three shows.
So I feel pretty good about myself on that one. Speaking of, that's what we talk about here with Danny Vietti. That will wrap up the Friday show. We'll wrap up the week. We'll be back on Sunday with a post-game show after Packers Rams.
And I'll have a full report on how the in-season tournament played when I'm at Bucks and Knicks. Love you all. See you all. Bye, you all. Here's Danny Vieti.
I'm I've been I am a baseball fan, but I've been like guy baseball fan uh hates I've been I've been that guy today. Uh reg begrudgingly I have been that guy. Danny Vietti joining us. CBS Sports, you can catch them on the Wake and Rake pod. Danny, I've been ratings guy.
Uh I have ratings lower than ever before. And I I I'm I'm with all due respect to the Texas Rangers. I think I do want to start there with you just because I look at baseball. A sport that, man, I just I remember like When I was a kid in these early nineties World Series, Where 30 million people were watching it. M my my neighbors came over.
And we watched the game in my house. And like, the neighbors were never in my house. We were never in each other's houses. We play outside. We were never in each other's houses, but we all got together.
It was so big. I just feel like the spectacle of the World Series is maybe taking a hit. It's not in the zeitgeist as much as it used to be. There's so many things going on in the middle of October. I don't know.
I just don't feel like. And I don't think this is a Texas Rangers, Arizona Diamondbacks programme. The problem is the thing. I think it's hard to relate to these teams and these stars because of the way baseball is set up. And also, look, October's a busy month, and I think baseball kind of gets lost in the shuffle a little bit.
I think there's a lot that goes into it. Like, we would probably need more. In the 10, 15 minutes, or however minutes we're going to spend on this, because you can start with like streaming networks. There's more places to get the game. You could either go to YouTube TV where the c uh the cord cutters are.
You can go to the Fox Force app. You can have MLB TV. There's so many different outlets for watching the game now, too. And that it complicates the ratings as well. You kind of touched on you don't think it's a Texas versus Arizona thing.
I'd be a little bit more of a cynic there and say that it did. You know, if we had the blue bloods in there. Yankees Dodgers, Red Sox Giants, something like that. I think the ratings would have been larger than they obviously were. But I kind of want to take a positive outlook on this and say that.
Because the Texas Rangers and the Arizona Diamondbacks. Neither of those two fan bases are exactly Blue Bloods, been around for one hundred plus years. That's not the the cases here. Arizona is an expansion team, nineteen ninety eight was their first season. And then the Texas Rangers now are finally hoisting their first trophy.
And those are two metropolises, Dallas, Texas, Dallas-Fort Worth area and then the Phoenix, Arizona area. Those are two of the largest growing areas in the continental United States. And I think that was a real opportunity for Major League Baseball to grow an audience that still has potential to grow. And I'm not saying these two are small markets. We're not talking Kansas City and Oakland here.
But these are two markets that maybe you grow more of an audience in Prescott, Arizona. Maybe you had more of an audience out in San Antonio, Texas, watching the World Series this year. I think there were areas for potential growth for Major League Baseball because we didn't have the Blue Bloods. in the World Series this year. And the ratings obviously weren't great.
But I do think it was a small sacrifice to try and grow the game to an audience that has potential to grow.
Well, and I was hoping that more people would get into, like, I wanted this series to go longer so that more people would start to notice that, hey, this is something worth watching. It seems to be then, you know, sometimes it's not a straight line, but the further a series goes, the more that you are going to see people like, hey, I can't miss this. This is game six. This is game seven. I want to see this.
I think that one thing, when I compare it to like other sports. is in the NBA Let's say you have your favorite team, right?
Well, you're still going to end up watching a little bit of the other teams, whether it's the Thursday night showcases or the Saturday night. And, you know, NBA's talked about so much with player movement. You're aware of who's around in the league. In the NFL, absolutely. A game like the Steelers and the Titans, whatever.
I mean, there's going to be 12 million people at least that watch this Thursday night game. In MLB Because I don't think baseball is a regional sport. That's my other thing with this. I don't think it's a regional sport. I think what happens is.
For instance, I I watch the Milwaukee Brewers. I'm in Wisconsin. And so I watch the Brewers every day. I wish the Brewers every single game that they play. When do I have time to watch any other team?
I only see Texas and Arizona if our team plays Texas and Arizona. They play every day, so I'm not watching Sunday Night Baseball or whatever. And I don't like Adolis Garcia, it shouldn't take until game five of a championship series for him to become a star, for that to be when we first learn about these guys.
So I almost just think, like, There's so much baseball and people watch it, but by the time By the time you get to the playoffs, by the meat of the playoffs, the World Series. It shouldn't be that you're learning about these guys for the first time. And I don't think that's like a baseball needs a better PR team problem. I think that's just the fact of what baseball is: your team plays every single day for six months. I I think you hit it right on the nose.
I was actually in a This was a presentation. My duties over at CBS Sports is running the social media accounts, particularly the TikTok accounts. And one of the meetings I was with, TikTok was putting on a presentation of the best sports marketing on TikTok over the course of the twenty twenty two year. And the first three examples that they use, and keep in mind. This was uh in that meeting, there were members from the NFL, NBA, NHL.
It was a global wide event. And the examples they used was majorly baseball and what they were doing across their social media accounts and how productive that they've been.
So to your point, I don't think it's a lack of trying when it comes to marketing and trying to promote these players. I think honestly, and again, this is the cynic coming out in me. I think baseball has run its course for the most part. in the United States. I touched on earlier how Phoenix, Arizona, Dallas, Texas.
I do think there are areas for growth. But as a whole, I think it's run its course for the most part. And we've seen Major League Baseball. Take games over to the UK. Once a year, there's a game in London every single year.
And they started to do games a little bit more internationally down in South America. I think that's where the potential is. Not necessarily in the UK or Europe. I think Major League Baseball really needs to start thinking about expanding to South America, Mexico, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, because you see these Dominican leagues. The Venezuelan leagues in the offseason, they're packing the stands in December.
They love their baseball down there. And I know there's a lot of logistic. Uh concerns are logistic. Problems to be worked out when you are going international like that. But I think if Major League Baseball, I think the easiest path for it to grow.
Is going to South America or somewhere in the Dominican Republic or somewhere where they can have a relationship because the fans are already invested into the game. Yeah, World Baseball Classic, I thought, did a good job. I was super into that. That drew a decent number for that time of the season.
So there definitely is room for it to expand and grow. I just, you know, I want to celebrate the World Series, and I want it to be, at least, and maybe it's just the kid in me remembering it's the World Series, and now it just seems like it gets lost in the shovel a little bit. The other thing that's been talked about, and we will give like. I will ask you about Texas at some point. They did win the World Series.
Congrats to them. I will get there. But I've been like really. I don't know. I've been really dis I think the playoffs do need to change.
And I know that might be a tired topic, but I haven't had a chance to talk to you in a while, and so I'll bring it up here. I think that right now the baseball playoffs are set up. Where the advantage goes to a team that gets in that first series and wins because you've played a little bit, you've got momentum. The rest is bad. I get like the rest in theory is: hey, we're rewarding this team.
They won 100 games, let's give them the week off. But then those same teams are like, Trying to do simulated games to stay fresh. It doesn't seem, though, like. Rob Manfred is eager to change anything. And I think they'll look at this too, like with what you said.
They won't look at the ratings being bad and saying we have a problem. They'll look at, look, we got two more markets that are going to be more into this upcoming season than they ever were before. I just, again, as somebody who watches every game of the regular season, it feels like. Is this really the best use of my time if the playoffs are going to be such a crapshoot? And basically, yeah, as long as you get in, sure.
But if you win 100 games, is that really any better than winning 84? I I think There's too much rewarding of the wildcard teams. I wouldn't necessarily say that the Post sees the format the way it is. I thought it was kind of a lousy excuse for these top seeds to or and I know the players didn't use it as an excuse. It was mostly their fan bases.
To say that, well, we had a week off and that's why our lineup was cold and that's why we lost so early in the playoffs. I think there's definitely something to it and there's a correlation. But for whatever reason, the Houston Astros never had any issue with getting that first-round buy over the last decade. There's been a number one or two seed ever since they started this new wildcard format. I think it was 2013, I think it was.
There's been a number one and two seed in all but one of those World Series.
So I didn't love that excuse. I will say this. I touched on earlier about how we're rewarding wildcard teens a little bit too much. And that's because I don't love the best of three. Format to start the postseason.
Because I don't think that more often than not in Major League Baseball, that the best team in a best of three. whomever wins a best of three I I don't consider that necessarily the best team. I think in baseball, because of the depth and the pitching that each team possesses, To see which team actually truly is the best team, I think you need at least the best of five.
So I don't love the best of three to start the series. And you're rewarding wildcard teams by such as the Diamondbacks winning eighty six games and giving them more of an opportunity because it is a best of three series. I think you need at least a best of five to try and figure out which of those teams is truly better. And I think the Diamondbacks are in particular were really rewarded with that best of three. I'm not saying that the Diamondbacks wouldn't have made it to the World Series otherwise.
I just would have liked to have seen a best of five first round. But what it comes down to is money. Major League Baseball wants the most money, and that's what they're going to look at. If this postseason format did not monetarily if it wasn't monetarily beneficial for them, I would expect them to try and make some changes. I think what I do like about this World Series and how it played out, not that the Diamondbacks didn't have a great run and You know really looked like for a while that they could be the World Series champions.
Texas went out and like they decided at the beginning of the year, or whenever they decided this. That it was World Series or bust for a team that has not, you know, the drought was so long, 70-some years, long time, 70-some years, 60, 70-some years. They decided they wanted to get a World Series to the point where they were spending money, you know, bringing Corey Seeger in, bringing Jake DeGrom. Obviously, he got hurt, but then continuing at the trade deadline, okay, we're not going to slow down. We're going to bring in these pieces.
And the fact that, like, I'm fascinated the most by, I think, Bruce Boce. Where this guy was retired for three years, they place the phone call, he's just hanging out, and they bring him back. And in his first year with a brand new club, he wins a World Series.
So I give a lot of credit to teams that, like, there's nothing that makes me more excited in sports than when a team decides we're going to win the championship. We don't care what it takes, and then it pays off for them because they were rewarded for what they did in the offseason, especially with Bruce Bocey. Yes, to start with Boach, my favorite nugget that came out from him winning his fourth title is the San Francisco Giants have never won a World Series since moving to San Francisco in 1958. The Texas Rangers had never won a World Series since being established in 1961. Bruce Boce ended both of those droughts.
And not to mention the San Diego Padres, who have a historically losing. Resume. He took them to the World Series. Of course, they ended up falling short in 98, but that that's something else to add to just Bocce's repertoire. It really is remarkable what he's done.
He's going to be a first Ballot Hall of Famer. And it's so funny. I think it's really ironic that Texas did wound up. getting on top, especially this season. Because midseason, especially toward the trade deadline, The two teams that we critiqued the most were the Padres and the Mets because they had such high payrolls and throw the Yankees in there as well.
such high payrolls and all three of those teams wound up missing the playoffs. And yet It was the Texas Rangers who had the fourth highest payroll in Major League Baseball. That ended up hoisting a trophy. My takeaway from that is that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I know that's very, very cliche to say, but so many people were slamming the Yankees Padres Mets for spending all this money and just ended up coming up short and and and failing.
But sometimes the culture isn't there for whatever reason, baseball. Or sometimes the players that is built on a roster don't complement each other enough. The Texas Rangers, for whatever reason, they were able to complement each other and hey, I get platoon systems. And I think Evan Carter was just a massive addition mid-season for them.
So I thought it was very fitting. and I was kind of happy that the Rangers ended up hoisting a trophy because there was this narrative that, oh, you can't spend too much money in Major League Baseball or else it doesn't work. And I think this kind of uh put a halt to that idea. The Texas Rangers breaking a long drought. The next five teams.
With the longest droughts. The Cleveland Guardians. at seventy three, the Milwaukee Brewers at fifty four. The Padres at fifty three, the Seattle Mariners at forty five, The Pittsburgh Pirates at 43. Guardians, brewers, padres, mariners, pirates.
If any one of those teams was to break their drought next year, who's the closest? Oh man.
Well San Diego is kind of in a weird position right now where they're trying to cut payroll a little bit. I if they hold on the Wantsota, which It's looking less and less likely. I love San Diego's chances because of talent that they possess. Pittsburgh had a very strong season, and that's despite not having O'Neill Cruz. Maybe they could surprise some people if they could just get some pitching.
Cleveland is always there and they're always going to be competitive. Milwaukee's weird too, kind of like San Diego, in that if they lose Craig Council, Corbin Burns is going to be a free agent after next season. I wonder if they're going to want to kind of do a little bit of a rebuild with guys like Bryce Terang and Mitchell and some of these young guys that they have on their roster.
So. None of them are sounding super promising to me, but if I have to pick one, I guess I would lean San Diego just because of the talent that they have right now. Danny Vietti, CBS Sports, appreciate your time. Good to catch up and be well. Enjoy the offseason.
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