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Go! Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. My name is Bart Winkler. Bucks and the Nets. We will have that post-game reaction and coverage later on in this episode.
We will obviously start. with the news of Craig Council going to the Chicago Cubs. A couple of people saying, oh, this is good for him. He gets to reset the market. What was he care about that?
He don't care about that. He cares about the $8 million per year. He's going to be getting. He cares that he doesn't have to drive that far to to see his family and be away from his home. Although that's pretty bold, man, to have this as your home.
And then go. to Chicago for work. And cross enemy lines consistently. People are still going to see you in your community. They're still going to see you at Craig Council Field.
They're still going to see a sendix. I'm going to see you at Cops. What do they what do you what do you think? What do what do you think is gonna happen? I don't know.
Midwest nice. Gosh, you see this guy in person, you're gonna wanna like yell at him. You're gonna say, what the fuck, man? I don't know. I probably wouldn't say anything.
I probably wouldn't say anything. I didn't say anything on Monday afternoon when I saw David Gruber downtown. I met Romy McClough of all the days that we had a planned lunch. I met Cubs fan Rami McLough, former 1250 chap. At Tupelo Honey downtown, as I've been talking about, and got to see him and had a really nice meal.
Very, very delicious. We had banana pudding as a dessert. And we like shared it. which was pretty uh great. I went with one of their standard favorites, the famous fried chicken.
So I got the sweet and spicy. With the sriracha honey sauce, cilantro. I had grits as a side, wanted the mac and cheese. But went a few calories less and went with the grits. Grits, very good.
I'm a big fan of grits. Tupilo honey. You can check it out. When you make a reservation through the end of November. There's a Place in the reservations where you can put notes, tupelohoneycafe.com.
Put Bart in there. And then they can get you they'll get you 20% off your food. your food.
So if you if you like do it and just Do shots of Jaeger all night, you probably won't get. that but if you're if you're getting a meal Up to six people, 20% off. When you put Bard in. When you use your reservation, very easy to make reservations. We had a one o'clock reservation that we pushed back to 115 as I was talking and finding out live that Craig Counsel was gonna be the manager of the Chicago Cubs.
Oh, so I ran into David Gruber. I saw David Gruber. And I had the opportunity to do something very viral, and I passed it up. Remember when Gianna signed the extension, all of a sudden David Gruber was there? And Channel 4 interviewed him.
And he got a quick reaction from David Gruber: like, that's how great Milwaukee is. That could have been me today. I was right by David Gruber. In fact, he went to Tupelo Honey too, and he sat next to me and Rami. Him and another guy.
Sat next to me and Rami. The entire time I was at Tupelo Honey. David Gruber was right next to us. And I didn't do anything content-wise.
Now, do I feel ashamed about that? I guess. I can't do it. I don't have that gene in me. I tell people: come up and say hi to me if you see me.
I don't have that gene in me. I think if I had like I don't know, if I had like a T V camera and you could tell with the news, I maybe would have done it. But if I was just like Hey, I do this podcast. Could you, could you, can I interview you quick? You know, it's just, it's weird.
If I knew Gruber, I would do it, obviously. I would have a ton of exposure. Oh my God, the exposure that I would have. All the unpaid engagement that I would be getting. Off of Elon.
But I didn't do it. But I want you to know. I want you to know that I had an opportunity to do something for content. And either I passed it up, good for me, to leave a man alone when he just wants a nice meal at Tupelo Honey. Or Or I uh I didn't chase content.
I wasn't a content chaser. And if this is going to be what I'm going to try to do, I. I don't know. Have I failed? Did I fail myself?
Did I fail you? Did I fail Milwaukee? Who's the real villain today? Me for not getting a David Gruber interview or Craig Counsel for leaving. Craig Counsel leaving.
There's no comparison. You got to start every comparison with like. This is like Hulgan joining NWO. This would be. Um You know Kevin Durant joining the Warriors.
This is like if one year Santa decided to Give toys to everybody on the naughty list and not the nice list. This is unprecedented. You don't do this. You don't do this. And so we're saying that money was the final push.
If money was the final push. I mean, the problem I have with this, the big problem I have with this, with council. is how quick did it take him to make this decision? How quick did how much thought did he put into? All the backlash and the broken hearts and the upset fan base.
How much thought did he put into that? How much did the money? initially and tell him Forget everything you've ever said. Forget every video the Brewers have ever put out. Forget every time you've talked about how great this is.
Forget every good moment you had in Milwaukee. That's going to go away because you're going to be the manager of the Chicago Cubs. And so clearly there's a dollar amount that he made that choice. But how much thought did he give into how the fans were going to react? The same fans that he has been a part of, the same fans that he goes out of his way to talk about the special bond that he has with them.
How much time did you spend before? You decide it was okay to leave. How much time? How much did you think about us? You know?
When you were with her, did you think about me? Does it make it worse if you did? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.
I just know that this is so stupid. And this is news, so I did a quick YouTube. If you missed any of this, this is where I want to go until we get to the Bucks. Uh I was I knew that he wasn't going to be the brewer's manager. We saw that news.
But then I didn't know where he was going to manage. And Bretton Tosa broke that news to me. And then a couple other people joined on. This is from YouTube. As the news broke.
He's I he I think he's one of the biggest villains in Wisconsin sports history. Like you've talked about it. Like you don't blame Giannis if he leaves. Like players players are a different story because like there is more money. More money out there and like championships and all that stuff.
Like, I don't expect. homegrown players to just are you fucking serious? Craig. You wanna break it? part oh i okay this is great i don't know So tell me.
Craig Counsel is the next manager of the Chicago Cubs. No, that's a lie. You're fucking lying. No, you're kidding. D I'm not finding this out live like this.
No, no. I want to fucking cry. No, no, we're not. Nuh-uh. No.
The what he's the what again, do you say? What? Ken Rosenthal. Cubs hiring counsel. Like Jack console, right?
It's good. Dude, he's the biggest villain in Wisconsin sports history. How the fuck do you go to the Cubs? This motherfucker's. This is not a bit?
Motherfuckers really going to the Cubs. What? Pull it up. You guys have no idea. Yeah.
This is the end of me, I think. How can you ever watch baseball again? That's what I've been trying to tell you guys. Sports sucks. I'm no longer mad at Mark, like at all.
Like California. Council understands what Brews baseball is. Two days ago I was saying he's never gonna be I whatever. You you can talk on this. I don't know what to say.
But Two days ago, I was saying, like, you're never going to be Bob Uger, you're never going to be Robin Yowen. Like, you're throwing away your brewer's legacy. Like, this takes it. to a whole nother level. I Transacts I I transactionally celebrated.
Like I was in. The same Wrigley Field visitor locker room as Craig Council when they won one game 163. I was there. I was there when We interviewed him on that fake Rain Out makeup game and he's like, yeah, you know. We've been there for all those Brewers' Cubs games that have been heated.
We've seen how. Miller Parks become Wrigley North. And you say everything you say about the Brewers. And of all places you go there? Nah.
Yeah. Exactly.
So they fired David Ross, obviously. They did they did the same shit when they got Joe Madden. I mean props to the Cubs like are you kidding me? This is the heist. Of the century, and Cubs fans are really going to be.
Well. This is a picture I took of David Stern's. Bob Euchre, Mark Antonasio, Craig Council. In the Wrigley Field Visitors Clubhouse. Wow.
I just told some people at work before I hopped on here. I said, I was joking when I said it. I said if he goes to the Cubs I'm moving to an island and never watching sports again. What do I do now? How do the brewers move forward with Craig Council?
The hometown guy that talked about for the last nine years about how much the logo means to him, and it's not a bandwagon you just jump on. It's, you know, it's part of you, it's not a decision you make, like all that BS. How does this franchise move on with him managing the Cubs? I mean, those games are going to be awful to watch. How can you manage?
How are you going to be able? To watch a Brewers Cubs game from now on with the shots of him going. In a Cubs uniform, how do you want to watch that? What's the biggest sports moment in history, like the that you remember, Bart, where like. You know, whether it was Damon switching, you know, between Red Sox and Yankees or like That first Brewer Cup game In Milwaukee.
What's that gonna be like? Like, I hope. There's 45,000 brew fans like throwing things on the field and like booing the absolute shit. out of that motherfucker. Um I got a couple of texts from Former Members of the fan, Toby says Craig really hates you guys.
Horvat says, let's go. That asshole. That is all.
So Frank Council is going to coach the Cubs, what? He must really hate it. Was it you or Grant that said? maybe there's things going on behind the scenes in Milwaukee like I mean, I thought that that was absurd when it was said. I mean, who knows?
Maybe. Like he's not. I think I have talked to people. I think Grant has talked to people. I think there's plenty of people that we know that have talked to people that.
Working. in the brewers organization is not The dream that you think it should be. And I know that there's different people like. Formerly, of the, I don't even want to say front office, but people that had offices at the, like, That just it changed or it got weird or it got like. any workplace situation will.
I didn't ever expect that to go down to the clubhouse so much so that It'd be one thing if he spurned you for David Stearns in the Mets. You're like. Man, that fucking sucks. This is a whole nother level of Um like a fuck you. that I can't even wrap my head around.
I really cannot. And it's not just a choice for him. Listen, like usually athletes are men, like they don't Give a shit about what Brett and Tosa and Die Hard Brewer fans think. Like, we don't matter. It's just the truth.
But like, it's not even about the fans. What does this tell the rest of the players like in in Milwaukee? Like I know Brandon Woodruff might not be staying, but like Brandon Woodruff to me, Christian Yellich, like. What are those guys supposed to think? Like, is winning here really possible?
Like, you went. We've talked about for five years how we hate the Cubs and the Wil the Wil Wilson Contreras things and like the the girl the The blowback with like David Ross and game 163, like you throw all that away, like how. I don't know. I feel like the franchise, even though they're set up really well on paper, like, They've been in the playoffs, what, five to six years or in top three farm system in the sport. Like, they're set up really well, but like, They're at a crossroads and like news like this.
It just completely derails everything that you've built. Is this Daniel says who did it worst? Counselor Favre. Council, absolutely. Wow.
And the answer to this question might lie on what team you like more, but here's what Brett Favre did. Brett Favre was outwardly upset with what was happening. Retired on and off. Had wore the fan base then. played another year somewhere else before he maneuvered his way To the team that he wanted to go to to stick it to us, to stick it to the franchise.
Um and and that's what happened. Craig. Craig decided out of the blue. To fucking go to the Cubs. Yeah, I agree with you.
Uh that's worse. I got about five more minutes. Tim Shay's here. I got to log off, Bart. All right, Brett.
Godspeed to you. One last thing. I think you are right. It probably depends on who you like more. But Packers fans forgave Brett Favre.
And I Listen, I'm not going to tell Bruce fans how to fan.
Well, actually, yeah, I am. Uh Bruce fans should never forgive this motherfucker. Like, Brett Farr's was more manufactured. This is out of the blue.
So it's worse. This is worse. All right, I'm out.
Sorry, Brett. Fuck you, Craig. Brett and Toza. learning live and then breaking to me live. That Craig Council will be managing the Chicago Cubs.
How on fucking earth, Tim Shea. I don't know. I love. I'm at a loss for words. Yeah.
Like I jokingly told, I was talking to my brother, I was picking up some medicine. I had to leave Walgreens. Because I like, I gotta go for a minute. I go, I go, the Cubs just hired Craig Counsel. And the guy looked at me and goes, what?
He laughed at me. He thought I was kidding. I was talking to my brother a minute, a couple minutes before that. I like, oh, watch, he's going to go to the Cardinals or something. Just joking.
Like what the fuck? Wait, um Yeah, when it first said Mets and Brewers or something, I thought, okay, Houston, maybe, but they didn't have a manager. I thought maybe the Yankees. Did the Cubs fire David Ross?
Well, yeah, they did now. I mean, just like within the last 10 minutes, and then. Or is he moving? I don't know. I don't know.
Tony, your thoughts, Tony, in Texas. This is shocking, shocking. My mom called counsel a traitor. This is the most shocking thing I might have seen in brewer history since Paul Molliter decided to go to the Blue Jays. Bart, do you agree?
Oh yeah, yeah, that was awful. That was awful. This is a million times worse. This is worse. Yeah, if you're just joining us, if you're just joining us, Craig Council is managing the Cubs now.
Like, I'm sweating. I'm sweating too, but I'm not sure.
Well, I'm sweating at the top of my head. Like I'm Like I'm just an asshole. Is he a douche? Is he a money grabber? What is it, Tim?
Well, it's going to be great to hear. I mean, can you imagine we're going to hear him talk for the first time? What is that going to be like?
So, when should we get like the ad in the paper? Like, thank you, Milwaukee. I don't even think he can put one in there. Right? Oh, thank you, Milwaukee ad.
Yeah. He'll do it, but I mean, people like us will just roll our eyes. Yeah, I he can't. If I'm the journal, I mean, obviously you take it 'cause you take every dollar, but Holy fuck. Come on.
I honestly, I would have thought Giannis would leave before Craig Council would leave the Brewers. I hear it. For the Cubs. For the Cubs. It's like Giannis going to the Bulls or Giannis going to the Celtics.
Would you have would you have Would you have the Bucks got dame if it meant counsel leaving? All right. Don't answer that. They're not even related. Why why we even bring it up?
We need to have an Ike Winkler. Like a little thing on Twitter. Or ex Ike Winkler. Would you? Oh, we need a what would you say to this man?
Yeah, well, yes, put that out there right now. I'm doing it. I was saying fuck you. Yeah. Yeah.
Hey, I'm all about capitalism, you know, but come on, man. This is just, this is putting salt into wounds. This is some bullshit. This is worse than I did. It's a free market.
I get it. But really, the Cubs, and you know what it is, Tim? He probably doesn't want to move.
So his wife is going to stay right there and wherever they live, Whitefish Bay, or wherever the hell they live. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have I know booty. I need to go to Whitefish Bay.
I need to get instant reaction. Should I go to Craig Council Field? Like, need to reach. They got to rename that. Did we burn it down tonight?
It needs to be Tim Shea Field. Should we burn down? Cray console field? Yeah. At least toilet paper.
Toilet paper at Timmy. TP. I think we need to go. I need to go take down the. They also named the street after him, Council Avenue.
All right. Well, this is not the news I wanted to hear. I would rather have heard a big Packer announcement or something good, but. This is a bad way to start the punch. They're they're doing an announcement later today for the draft dates.
Oh, no one cares. Just letting you know. It's keeping you informed. Hey, so Tennessee joined the Chicago Cubs. What?
I was going to say, Timmy seemed a little. Timmy seemed a little underwhelmed when you mentioned my name, Bart, on last show. Tim, you want to address that? Like, it was fine, it was okay. Oh no, you were fine.
You were great. I ran into you in Madison. It was a great, it was a great. I could smell you from a mile away. Whatever you were wearing smelled very good.
All right, thank you. I have uh I've been talking about going out to lunch with somebody and We knew we were never gonna actually go out to lunch. We have a reservation at one o'clock, which I pushed back a few 15 minutes. Um at Tupelo Honey. Me?
And Romi McLough. Oh, Robbie. Where does Robbie live? Hey, View. Yes, sir.
Yeah. How are you reacting to whatever this is? I'm I'm shocked. Um. I like it.
I gotta say, I like it. I think Craig Counsel might be the best tactical manager in all of baseball. I like David Ross, and I think he did a pretty dang good job. But anytime you can upgrade, You upgrade, and I think the Cubs just upgraded. I am a little mad, though, Bart.
I just told this story to my girlfriend right before I jumped on with you. And I'm just gonna air some dirty laundry. And give a peek behind the curtain here. A few years ago, Uh we're down at spring training covering the brewers. And it was myself and the guys from the big show.
And then Tim Allen was down there representing. The post-game show. And we had an interview set up with Craig Counsel. And I won't name the guy. You probably know who it is, Bart.
I won't name him just in case I ever get a job in this town again. But uh a Brewer's Media Relations guy called me. The night before the interview. And said, hey, who's doing this interview with Craig Council tomorrow? And I said, Oh, that's me and Gary for the big show.
And he said, Oh, I thought that was Tim. I thought that was for the spring training show you guys do. And I said, No, that's me and Gary. And he said, all right, I think we're going to have to do that one. And I said, why?
And he said, well. I think we'd rather have a Brewers fan. Interview the manager of the Milwaukee Brewers because I was never shy about the fact that I was a Cubs fan. And now, That guy. Is the manager of the Chicago Cubs.
After they denied me the interview because I was loyal to the Cubs.
Now, Greg Counsel showed you his true colors and where his loyalty really lies, which is whoever is gonna pay him the most and give him a chance to win some baseball games. I know you've been out of the game for a little bit, and we're glad to have you back in Milwaukee and I'm excited to have lunch with you again. Yeah. But the way that you just somehow made This story about you. You know me.
You know me. Fucking effortless. Thank you. You know me. I'm the big selfish part.
Not that I didn't try. I posted a picture, like, look at me in the Cubs locker room 2018. Who knew? I tried too, but you did it in a way that was magnifique. You know me.
You know I'm petty and selfish. I'm the big selfish. I'm the big petty. You know this. Wow, this is truly shocking.
This is true. I'm stocked.
Well, for you too, it's like you're a Cubs guy.
Okay, Craig maybe comes back from Milwaukee, goes like you're not even. This isn't even on your radar, and then this happens. No, this, I never saw this. I didn't think, why would they move on from David Ross? He just had a fine year, but like I said.
And this is what I've always said about the quarterback position in football. When you have an Aaron Rodgers, but you draft a Jordan Love, or you have a Brett Favre, but you draft an Aaron Rodgers. Anytime you can upgrade at a position that important, no matter how good it may look at the time, if you think you can upgrade, you upgrade. And they did. I think they did.
I like David Ross, but like I said, I think Craig Counsel might be the best tactical manager in all of baseball. And as a customer.
Well, Robbie, to back your point up, I mean, you actually make a good point there. Who won the World Series this year? Bruce Bocey, right? Came from a different team, and then also Dusty Baker came from a different team.
So, I mean, you make some good points, Rami. You might want to take that. And talk about that a little bit more because new managers bring a little juice to the team, you know? They do. Joe Madden.
I mean, you don't have to go far to look. Look at Joe Madden when they brought the Phillies. The Phillies. They filed Gabe Kepler a couple of years ago. The Brewers and Craig Council from Kurt Hog.
The Brewers and Craig Council's camp were not in direct contact as the weekend progressed. It remains unclear what the Brewers' final offer was. You know what? The Brewers, the Brewers bad PR out of this, but they're going to be saved from Council's pure just traitory. Like it doesn't it doesn't you shouldn't have to outbid financially Craig Council, of all people, to not stay with you to then go to, of all people, the Cubs.
I mean, this is like if Jim Harbaugh is like, you're going to suspend me, and then is the coach of Ohio State later. This is unbelievable. You know, I'm sure he can't. I'm sure somebody has already done it because Twitter is petty. Can somebody dig up the video of him talking about how much this means to him?
Baseball, Milwaukee? Remember the very well-produced video before? Brand posted something just this morning. I'm a Milwaukee brewer. You know, I've always felt that way.
Um Um Just already. I feel responsibility for it. I always have. Um I'm proud to have that responsibility. And you left him for dead.
Man, this is such like a high school sweetheart fucking midlife crisis. Dump your fucking high school ex-wife. All the three kids are, we're back here. Fucked. He's down in Chicago.
Got all the money now. Whatever still has an apartment here so you can see the kids, high-rise condo, uh, right in downtown, right there, overlooking the lake. Hey, Bart, don't you think everything just kind of added up with council, though? You know, you got the Corbin Burns kind of petty-pinching him, you got the Josh Hayter trade, just all these little nickel and dime moves with management. I don't know, but as a Shorewood resident, I'll say I'm not surprised that a White Peace Bay guy is because White Peace Bay is not really Milwaukee, unlike Shorewood is.
What's that? Hey, now should we like you? You said you said we're going to be saved by console going to the Cubs, but should we be kind of equally as mad to Mark just saying here's a blank check? Go. Uh yes, but but Council could have counsel could have gone anywhere that he wanted in this league.
And even if a team that manager fucking got him. I get that. I get that. So obviously always mad at Mark. He sucks and is cheap.
But uh this is Craig just couldn't. You just couldn't convince him to say anywhere about you. Can't you be mad or disappointed with both parties? With both? Yes.
Oh, yeah, equally. And Craig Council? They have to be one. Do you have to aim all your focus all your anger at Craig Council because he betrayed you? No, not at all.
Bart, you got to get a press pass when he comes into town and just drill him. I got to get a present. I'm the one who has an interview to make.
Well, of course, he's going to want to talk to you, Rami. He'll want to talk to you now. You could tell them about all the best pizza places in Chicago. Where to find a good Italian beef. You could tell them all that now.
I might have a job right now. I'm listening to David Ross right now. He's on the score. Is he really? Why?
Yeah, I just had to turn down my volume so you didn't hear. I don't know. He's, I don't know. I don't know if it was a replay of him playing his end of the year or whatnot, but they just turn it on. Still on him.
Score isn't that lazy. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're talking about they're talking they are having a party on the score right now.
And so the game.
So where are we riding? Ampham or Council's Field? Or council's house. You want to just do a like a parade, like start at Ampham and go to Whitefish Bay?
Okay, you're the parade guy, Bart. You're the grandmaster. You're the grandmaster. Where do we go? You're the organizer.
Yeah, better name, please. What do they call the person in charge of a parade? I forget. Grand Marshal. You're the Grand Marshal.
All right, yeah, not Grandmaster or Grand Wizard. Brewery in Chicago. I'm gonna drop part. I'm gonna drop here May 27th. What?
What? I'm going to drop Bart. Saddest day since 1992 when Paul Molliter left.
Well, yeah, I'm going to go. I'm gonna go. I was gonna buy Rami lunch. That just flipped around. How that's happening.
And then I'll be live after the Bucks tonight and we'll talk more about this than the Bucks. Is this a drinking lunch or is it just? I gotta work tonight at CBS, but you can drink. Nah, that's all right. I don't drink alone.
But I will see you there. Maybe a beer, then? We'll have some fun. T B D All right. Tim?
Maybe I'll drive maybe I'll drive past. You want to come to lunch? Come to lunch. No, I can't eat. But You two have fun.
Congratulations, Ronnie, on your new manager. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's a big day. It's a big day for us.
See you later, Ted. All right, Rami, I'll see you in 20 minutes. See you, dude. Cool. On fucking real.
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Again, did have a very nice meal with Rami. Got the chicken, got the grits. Had a uh Banana pudding. Dessert that Rami and I shared. We had one bowl with two spoons, and we got right to the point.
Right until the germs started to cross.
So I think we both got a good. amount of of basin. I thought about just eating it and finishing it. But Oh, we we let we let it be. 402-915-BART.
402-915-BART. That is the Carl's Place voicemail line. Carl of ET.com backslash. Bart. This is from SparkGuy.
So I've got this voicemail. I got some others, Packer-related others that I'll get to on tomorrow's show. And yeah, this is still so shocking.
So, so shocking. Here's SparkEye. Spark guy here. Need to call in with the big news and then he did the live show but about current town so First off, I'll own the fact that I'm a girl's fan. I have to get that out of the way before I can talk.
ScumSman's perspective is simply this. there's excitement that simply David Ross is gone. His mismanagement is starting pictures, his It's dispatch from the bullpen, not doing the correct mashups. It's always kind of been a nerd versus jack thing where the nerds and lookups have always kind of had an affinity for him but he's clearly not cut off for the jobs I think fans are just excited to have an upgrade over somebody that was just not doing a good job. Um So got that out of the way.
That's my personal feelings on it. I will say this, Cups fan here. I have a personal investment or an affinity into baseball in Milwaukee. That said, um I think unlike most Cup fans, I don't have any hatred for the Paraters. I live here and I want to see baseball in Milwaukee.
I worry that the sentiment is again spinning back to some villain or somebody. is such a big problem that that is why this is happening. At the end of the day, I think everybody in Milwaukee needs to take take a step back first off and say, where are you hiring next? Jim Launder? Because I think that's a big part of the problem.
Lumpy. Doesn't have to be a Wisconsin guy, and they all don't have to be Wisconsin guys, and I know that it's personal. because of his his relationship with city and everything else. But that said, Nobody's asking the question and you touched on a little bit, but How bad? But the B.
in that organization for him to walk like this. I think that's the question people need to be asking. They also need to be asking, what is he aware of? the next two, three, five years looking like. that he's cutting bait right now.
I think the pressure should be on ownership, not necessarily for not paying him. but for letting this get to this point and what are the future plans.
So again, I just always like to refocus every energy. It's the ownership. It's always in the ownership. And Antonaccio being on the relocation committee for the AIDS and some of his other moves. Problem.
They're concerning. I want baseball here. Final thing I have to ask you, your thoughts. What will he spend the extra money on? Do you spend saving money again, this time on the manager?
And Aubrey Hero takes pride in doing things with the chief, but will he get more ticket stubs or more baseball cards that the state agency has in his Manager being gone. Yeah, you let Mark Kana go. Canna, I don't even remember anymore. I didn't even for a month. Um You let him go.
There is your money. You could use that elsewhere. Granted, I guess, separate kitties, but it's all the same bottom line. Oh, I don't know. I don't know, man.
You know, at one point, I think. A guy getting a different job because he wants more money isn't. Like that's the that's what a lot that's what a lot of people do in a lot of walks of life. That's what a lot of people do. And that's what a lot of people that's what a lot of us would do.
You can get a job that gets more money. I think that where this is different, it's the same thing I said about Giannis. Like, Giannis would put out all these tweets out there. I'm loyal. I'll never leave.
I just talked about this, but. Craig, Craig did the same kind of stuff about just his attachment to Milwaukee and. And it seems like he was willing to get rid of all that. Maybe he thinks, oh, I saw Brett Favre come back 30 years later. be celebrated again.
It won't last forever, but This is the Cubs. This is the Cubs. If I was a Cubs fan, I'd feel very empowered. I'd be a huge dick. I'd be such an ass.
I'd be such an ass. God. I mean, council jerseys are going to be the top-rated seller now. That's all you're gonna see at Miller Park is Cubs Council's jerseys because now you can rub it in. You know?
Oh, you're wearing a Cubs jersey, but oh now you're wearing a council jersey? Shit. Going to those games, I wouldn't like if no Brewer fan goes to those games, those Cubs Brewers games, let them take over. Fuck. I'm not going to that ship.
This is just, it just sucks. Just sucks. When a guy who, you know, acts like he's. A descendant of Bernie Brewer. And he's second in line to the slide.
You go to the Cubs? That quickly? He didn't need to work before. Are they the Cubs had to request before November 1st? If they want to talk to Craig, they had to request.
They never did that. This all came together quickly. How quick did it take for him to make a decision that he's out? Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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Let's talk some bucks basketball. Let's talk some bucks basketball. Mm-hmm. Milwaukee Box basketball. They beat the Nats.
Hey guys, Bucs beat the Nets 129 to 125. And for most of the game, I was able to keep a good eye on it. I haven't seen like the Twitter reaction. I'm sure that there'll be some people mad about Some stuff. I think where I'm at initially with the Bucs.
It is Just win games, please. Just win games. Everybody is. I think a little I don't know. We're kind of on edge.
Are we kind of doubting if this is going to work? Are we kind of doubting? Adrian Griffin. Are we kind of doubting the whole thing? Do we not like seeing that the Celtics keep winning?
Do we not like seeing that? We're not winning by as many points as. We thought we would. I mean, do we not like that? I feel like there's some of that going on.
I feel like there's like some of that going on and so people are I don't know, a little bit I don't know. What do we want? A 10 out of 10 right away? What are they playing? Like a 7 out of 10?
I mean, it was a close game against the Knicks. They won that game. In-season tournament. That's my personality now. I love it.
I actually did not get into this game as much because what were the stakes? A regular season game? Come on. I need in-season tournament, baby. I mean, in-season tournament game, keep my Juice is flowing.
Let's get after it. Give me some of that. IST. Bucks win. That stands for in-season tournament if you If you missed it, Bucks win.
I thought down the stretch.
Some good defense at the rim. I like that. And I like that play they ran to Jay Crowder there at the end. It's just. Crowder missed his first free throw.
Giannis Adena Kumpo. Here's something we can complain about. Giannis took seven three-point shots.
Okay, there was one where he took it, missed, got it back, took it again. Made it. That was the one he made. Seven three-point shots.
So I still don't know how that is a. Part of the offense as much as it is. Giannis at 36, 12 boards. Dame with 21.
Some real impactful plays at the bucket when he needed them. Seven assists for Dame, 15 for Middleton. Bunch of guys contributing off the bench. Jay Crowder with 15. He's been playing well.
Brooke Lopez, what's been his best statistical night? Like what what's been Brooks? Best night. Overall, 13 points. His point output right now is.
13, 13, 11. Six, thirteen, and four.
So Brooke hasn't been as dominant as uh We thought he might be. At different times, but they're still trying to figure out the best way to use them on defense. I think I said this on Friday night on YouTube when Q was giving me a ride. Is that like The players came to Adrian Griffin and said, Hey, we'd like you to use Brooke Moore in the drop. And then he goes, sometimes players are smarter than the coach.
And people were like, what? This guy's stupid. Remember. Giannis has been here for a decade. Middleton, too.
Lopez for five years. These guys They know a lot more how to play with each other. Then Adrian Griffin knows how they play. Adrian Griffin has watched the Bucs play before when he was either scouting them or playing against them. He's not watched the Bucks like us.
He's not watched the Bucks like them. And so there's going to be some things that he needs to learn. As we go forward. And one thing that Adrian Griffin has going for him. Is that he's not just going to fucking leave us and go to the GD Cubs?
Okay. God. Peter says, I hope it's not a trend. For Giannis to have more three-point attempts. Then he does Free throws.
Well, there you go. Five of six at the line. And one of seven from three. Interesting. Um Adam says, Adrian Griffin, greatest manager in Wisconsin sports.
Uh hey Let's see, we got him. We got Bart Lundy. I put those guys at top two. Greg Gard, people like Gardy, yeah. Um The floor is no good.
Council's a trader. I'm just trying to figure out which. Base. 'Cause Craig Council's got a park in Whitefish Bay. I'm trying to figure out, or he was a shortstop, so maybe I'll use the dirt.
I'm just trying to figure out which part of that field. I'm gonna take a shit on. Haven't decided yet. But it's in the works. Dan says at least Giannis is loyal, unlike someone else.
who must not be named.
Okay, so a lot of that gonna be going on. Tonight. Brooke is best as a shot blocker. Um Bart, how was rockin' bruise? As a proud member of Rocket Brew is a nice little place.
It's a whole new world up there. in the second floor of Pado. Matt in the falls. Hey, buddy. Good to see you.
Likewise, this is a new location for the third straight show from you? Wow. Same couch, different spot.
Okay. A lot of options on this here couch. It's a nice looking couch. Thanks. What's on your mind tonight, friend?
Um I mean Bucks win, but Just like the Packers, like it wasn't a good, wasn't a pleasing win. Um I want to be blowing teams out. And you know, oh, it's only the fifth game, oh, they needed like Come on, these are experienced players. They should be. He should be hitting the floor running.
Pun intended. And it's like we shouldn't be scraping by these Like seven, eight seed level teams. Maybe the Nets will be a six seed. Ooh. But um it's just I need to see more and I need to see it quickly.
like Lopez not being used properly. I mean that's That's a bad trend. What is this s five, six games? I don't know, but I'm not uh well. I like I'm with you.
Uh I had this thought earlier, I did. While watching the game, it was like a back and forth game and The Nets took the lead again. Scott says blowing teams out. Laughing emojis, bro. It's the NBA.
You need to chill. I would agree with Matt here. that from a Hype standpoint from what we had three weeks ago. And while we know it's going to take time. I still thought we'd get a little more of a head start.
Um You know, we're letting these guys put 40 up against us.
Okay, they still lose empty buckets, empty calories. But uh I want our team. I want our team. I th what I want is for our team to Just go out there and kick an absurd amount of ass. Yeah.
And playing like Yeah, it's a tight game, you know. I don't know. Because we've gotten blown out a couple of times. Yeah. So it's like, oh, we're playing these tight games and winning, but.
Well we're not doing that, we're getting Crushed by the Hawks, or when, when, when, all we're asking is: when are we going to blow someone out? Exactly.
Look. I mean we can't uh no not really. I want to say this. We're in a time here where... We're 12 hours removed as we're talking.
From a guy totally stabbing us in the back. Uh the Packers Are there College basketball starts, I guess.
Some say it doesn't start for another five months. That would be me. Um It's April. Marge. Huh.
I just want my Bucks to kick the shit out of some team. Yeah, 82 game season. We're analyzing this team to the nuts. I don't know. I think in the first nine minutes, we said a few things that happened.
Matt and I came to a spot of agreement where We want to see us kick some ass. That's all. Yeah, every game counts. You know, I want to be the the highest seed possible and Like we're we have the the players to be this historically good team and Hopefully it uh Yeah, hopefully it gels together. Daniel knows we haven't really played a bad team yet, so.
Yeah. But not everybody can be happy. You know, not everybody can be happy. What happened tonight was the Bucs got another win. which hurts their draft stock.
I know that will Make uh hot take Jake. Or no tit Jake, it says tonight. Great, great stuff. Yeah, somebody in the comments called me that the other day.
So I'm like, well, screw it. If I say it, I'm like B-rabbit in A-Mile. Tell these people something they don't know about me.
So, Jake hurts our draft stock tonight. Obviously, a big blow, but maybe we'll lose when we play on Wednesday. I'm uh I'm heartbroken right now. I'm just just Yes. I'm all out of sorts.
Well, what'd you think, any Buck's thoughts?
Okay. Yeah, definitely. Giannis. Dude. At this point I feel like he's just He's trolling me, taking these three pointers.
But I'm downtown, man, right now.
Well yeah, but met some friends for the game I heard there was gonna be a lot of stuff. Got together.
Well, I tried. Austin showed up. Q was going to show up, but we didn't end up seeing him. But I had some of my boys there with me. It was a nice little shooting.
It had like six of us or so.
So it was a good time. We went to Major Ghoulsby's, which. They we asked if they could put the Bucks game on. About a minute or two after it was tipped off, and they put it on two 32-inch TVs in the bar. The other ones had Equestrian on, as well as like an old Dominion basketball game or something.
Very, very disappointing service from uh Usually a go-to. But The game itself. Um Really the like I said, Giannis. Enough with the threes, dude. We don't just stop.
It's not benefiting anybody. Nobody's buying it. Um Then in the fourth quarter, I'm just like, what did we get Lillard for? If Giannis is just going to take the ball up. Again, shoot more threes.
Whoa, what the hell happened? Spooky. I'm going to start doing a no-car mandate on these shows. I'm kind of getting tired of the cars. What?
What's wrong? What the fuck, everybody's joining me in their goddamn car for? No, I went to Tim's house. I'm just waiting for him to get here. All you guys in your cars, it's like It's like you guys all join the show as if like it's the second Thing you're doing at the time.
This is a stop and go society.
Some of us have responsibilities, jobs. I got off the air four minutes ago to do this. Hey, think of it this way. I was so excited and ready to get on your show that I couldn't wait to get home. I'm like, I got to get on now.
This is where it's at. This is second time I've talked to you tonight, actually. Yeah, you called the show. Thanks. I did.
Good to see you. You white-collar workers can just, you know, hop on a computer and work from anywhere. Not on you know, that's not the case for everyone. White collar. I'm digging.
I'm digging. I'm digging my own career into a grave. Um Oh, I wanted to say this. Shane says, I'm fine with them figuring it out. New coach, new superstar, relax.
This is not a place of, you know, again, they want. We're not going to be sad that they won. This isn't. Yesterday. Um, but we're at a point where I just think Matt and I.
If I can speak for you, we've watched how many games now? Six? Six. We just want to see a blowout now. We saw some close games.
Close games are good. It's going to help. It's great to watch these guys get better and learn from each other. And you know, we just want to see like. You know, we don't want to see the Thinking Man's episode.
We want to see a thriller. That's the movie we want to watch tonight. We want to watch we watch action. I'd be lying if I said I didn't expect a little bit more at this point, even though I knew it was going to take some time to adjust. I thought just the sheer Talent and fit of Dame and Giannis, we'd see a little bit more, but um, Dame is just being too um.
unselfish at this point. Like in the fourth quarter, Close game, five minutes, grab the ball and go, that's your time. And, you know, they won, but it almost cost them like. I this is why we brought Damian Lillard in and I'd like to see it come to fruition. Daniel says, Jake, we got Dane to close games out.
Did you not see the Knicks game the other night? Drew's not single-handedly doing that. I don't understand. Is he agreeing with me? No, Drew, you said you want Dame to be more unselfish.
She had 15 to 16 on Friday night. No, I'm saying he was He's being too unselfish. He wasn't on Friday is what he's saying. Right, but I'm talking about tonight. Oh.
Yeah. Well, then he was. Why would I be talking about Friday? Greg reminds us: Miami was a blowout for three quarters. It was.
And then we got, you know, a taste of the dreaded Bucs blow-a-game. syndrome, which sucks. Q is here as well. Q, good to see you. I'm excited, that was gusto.
But that was gusto. Yeah. What was Gusto? The game. Like, I I feel like In the first half, I was very concerned that we were going to get blown out.
Like it was trending a lot like. Um Toronto. And I I I was surprised they battled back and It's nice to have Jay hitting those threes. That's a huge luxury. Especially while we're waiting for Chris to get healthy and get off that restriction.
Um I mean at times it is very frustrating. Like, I I I think we're watching this team Figure themselves out as they go. Luckily, they have the talent to pull it off more than they don't. Um but I think there's a lot to like about today's win, especially against a team that. Like they had a decent second half last year, and their team had a lot more time to gel.
Than the Bucks have had. I I still Like, I feel like a broken record, but like, Dame didn't play basketball this summer. Neither did Giannis.
So, those guys are still getting into game shape. And they're playing against younger teams for the most part right now. And they have more wins than losses. And that's really all that I can ask for at this point. It's not sexty, but.
They could ask for a blowout.
Well, I mean You could ask for a blowout, and I think we'll get one on Wednesday against the hapless Pistons. They're not a very good team. Yeah, but if we I can't believe you guys, because if we win that game, that's going to be one. win further away from getting a guy like Ron Holland in the draft. Or this is nothing set up.
Or Justin Edwards. I mean, why win when you could like, could you imagine Isaiah Collier with. Dame? Oh my god. Come on the nine pick, man.
I've said my piece. I left my voicemail. I won't speak on it again. I bet you will. People are asking what card game Matt is playing.
Uh I was playing a little go fish earlier with my daughter. Hmm. Pretty wild, pretty wild stuff. All right, I would like to, if you have more Bucks thoughts, please. Use them in the comments or feel free to jump on.
I would like to know your guys' council reactions if we could start. In the order you joined the program, Matt. I think it's hilarious. I think it's. I mean what like Like just the the absolute gall.
Of the guy. Yeah. It's incredible. I was watching the stream live, so I found out with you. Yeah.
And I didn't join because I was just stunned. Like, and then they play the clip. I saw you in the comments being like, what is this? Why is what is happening? Yeah, I just couldn't.
And then Rami came on and was gloating, and then they played the clip where council's like, Oh, I'm just a brewer through and through. I think that's that's a that's evident. And then boom. Do we have the terms of the contract? I haven't looked at all.
40 million for five years, 8 million a year, highest MLB manager ever. And I think what that tells me is it sounded like the Mets made an offer that was not that high. The Brewers made an offer of 5.5 million, knowing that someone else would beat it. But they can still say on record in history, they at one time offered someone to be the highest paid manager. It does not sound like Craig.
Went back to these guys. There were some very interesting comments. Uh, from Mark Atnazio tonight, if you didn't see them. First of all, Mark says. We're all here today because we lost Craig.
I've reflected on this. Craig lost us, and he's lost our community. This was a really special place to be. Or are we going to get a Dan Gilbert letter? That's Mark Antonio.
Yeah, I guarantee we beat you before he was. Burris will get a world championship before. Screw that. I'm glad Adanasio said that. Ant Nazio on losing counts of the Cubs.
When he first told me, I said, Are you messing with me? People are mad about this one. People are mad about this one. Same reaction you had, then, Bart. Yeah.
People are mad about this one. Mark said counsel told him in early September that he'd shifted towards wanting to manage next year instead of taking a year off. including to possibly manage away from our community or organization or team. My first goal was to make sure it didn't become a distraction. I think you should have just fired his ass right there.
These are all from Adam McCalvey's Twitter. He, along with some of the other Brewers reporters, jumped onto Zoom tonight. Uh Jake.
Well First things first, obviously fuck that guy. It's just it's so bizarre to me the whole situation, like He went. Being the most beloved manager the team will probably ever have because, gosh. Oh, you know. Gosh darn it, do we love our local boys?
to now being forever hated. Because here's the thing, if he took that same deal in New York, Most people in Milwaukee are gonna go, Ah, that sucks to lose him, but I get it. And we'd be mad at the brewers. Any other team that he could have accepted, we would be mad at the brewers for letting him go. But he chose.
To go to the Cubs, which means We're like, some people are probably still gonna be mad at the Brewers and Mark, but more people will be mad at Council now because he went to the place where you cannot go. And it sounded like the Cubs were, they never asked to interview him.
So they got in on this very, very late. And when they get in on this, Council basically has like a day or two. to figure out is this money worth the pushback that I'm going to get. And yeah, and millions of dollars, I'm sure. But I just what stinks for me is to know how much he said this stuff, how much he put this out there, and how quick it took for him to Blow all that away just so that he could get a few more extra dollars and be the manager of the Cubs.
He is somebody who, when I looked at the last few years, I've probably mentioned this nine times already in this complete podcast, but I'll say it again. Giannis used to say all that shit, and I'd be like, stop saying how loyal you are, because it's going to come back to bite you. And counsel always said it, and you never thought for a second it would come back to bite him. No team has ever. Better like been the personification of a guy of a manager.
He's not just a manager, he's a fan. And Not anymore. I was insulted when Mark let him go interview in the first place. I was insulted if someone else would have outbid him. But the fact that he went to the Cubs, it's like.
And council's going to come back to that ballpark. What's it going to be like for him? And are we going to have fun with it? Like, oh, it's great to be here. I'm on this side now.
Like, I'm not in for any of that shit. You're going to have Cubs fans in Council jerseys sitting in front of you at these games. It's going to be fucking miserable. There's not going to be any Midwest hospitality for him when he comes back to Milwaukee. Um And it's just very snakish and then to hear him like What's closer to home than fucking home?
Well, and I love when he's like What? Home with more money. Yeah, home with short drive, more money. I love when he's like, hey, I want to call the players so they can find out from me. It's like, do you think they don't have social media, you fucking dumbass?
Brett says, who we talked to earlier, he's going to get cheered. Brewers fans are too scared to show up to voo his ass. I 1,000% agree with him. That Bruce fans are going to be.
Well, they did boo him when he put in Jesse Winker.
So we have booed him before. Anybody but the Cubs. Even if he went to the Cardinals, I don't think he gets booed. But the Cubs, no, your ass is done. That's the ultimate betrayal.
Q. I I could not disagree with you all more. I'm happy for Craig. I think he's been saddled by a poverty franchise for nine years. He did what was best for him.
He's getting more money. He's getting more resources. He stays close to home. There's a big portion of the Brewers fan base from a certain generation that are still Cubs fans from when the Braves left. And I like.
I'm sorry I don't feel Angry at him at all. No, no, what I haven't ever had a bad boss, have you ever worked for a company you hated? Like, I think that he is still. Extremely upset that they traded Josh Hayter when he thought like he had baseball figured out. And like I don't know if you could get paid more, get all the resources you ever wanted, and like still not.
make your family move, why wouldn't you ever do that? All right. First of all, I got I'm gonna bring in two more people. We'll go uh six wide. But like this is Um like you know, shark week or whatever.
This is actually a week that we didn't tell you about. Most awful fucking takes of all time week from Q. Two days in a row. I'm sorry. Like we normally agree Bart on everything but Like When you're not going to make the playoffs, you play for draft picks, and you can't hate a guy.
And, like, here's the other thing. Like that, I didn't brought up on Grant's show earlier. I didn't bring it up here. I was frustrated with counsel for not getting us to the next step. I'm pretty consistent with that.
With all my coaches. If you can't get us over the hump, it's time for a new voice. There will be some discussion that I want to have this week about. the the way out of this and the silver like not silver linings but Could the brewer like they're Is West Penn gonna let you use that? But maybe we did get to a point where council where maybe the Brewers didn't need a change.
I talked about this with Emegan Grant not too long ago. But still, for Council going to the Cubs, that's unforgivable. It's worse than far of going to the Vikings too. I don't think so at all because council's not doing it out of resent. He's not doing it to stick his middle finger up at all.
Well, he might be to mark.
Well and I mean, and if along the way, like I've said this before, but if you're going to flip off Mark, he's got to know Mark's on the other side of the room. We're all in the middle. He flipped us all off. I feel like if he did flip off Mark, he's doing it as a Brewers fan, then, because we all are upset with Mark. Uh John is here.
And oh, I had Joe. In Iowa. Anyway, what's up, John? How's it going? Yeah, I mean, I guess I kind of just want, and obviously we're never going to get it.
I kind of want. The complete story really dating back to the beginning of last year. Um where their contract extension talks before then? How much was Mark willing to pay back then? Because to be honest with you, like I thought I would be devastated when he left.
And I was like. Good for you. Like, I agree with you. Give this guy the hook. Yeah.
Like, I just, I'm such an asshole. Like, like, you just like said it on the money, like, just. Oh. Like having like a bad boss. And just like continually wanting more resources, not being able to get more resources.
And I think. I just like every all Brewers fans complain about the owner constantly. About how he's not willing to spend money. But if he wanted all this, he had it in New York. But then you would have to move across the country.
You don't get to, it's bullshit. It is bullshit that he can get all these other great things and still live in fucking Ozaki, fucking Okauchi Lake, whatever the fuck he lives. That is bullshit. You don't get to leave the brewers and stay close to home. That is take away his Wisconsin restaurant.
I don't like Craig. He lied to us. Before this, he lied to us for 20 years. But, like, if you got a great job in Chicago, Bart, I wouldn't be upset with you at all. Not at all.
Because you like tried to make it here. That's not the same. That's not the same. You tried to make it here in Milwaukee. It didn't work.
Like, now you're talking cubs. What if I got hired? What if it was the Winkler and Zabin show? Would you be happy for me? I would listen to it.
Like, I'm considering cheering for the Cubs this year because the Brews are never going to win a World Series. Oh, yeah. God, that was too far for me. To be honest, that was too far. I think he was a closet cubs fan before this.
That's what this is. Disinfectant spray. That's like. We all know Ryan Horvat's a closet Chicago guy. Like, you, I think, might be with him.
I don't know. How much to drink the rest of this bottle? How much? Don't do that. $5.
$10. I'll drink the bottle. Let's go. I need a new microphone. $20.
You just want to do it. Honestly, like This is the last thing I'll say, and then I'll drop off. I'm not on the Dan Staney YouTube stream. I am talking about drinking a bottle of. Disinfectant.
That'd be a slow, painful death. Yeah, I think you would Like, poop out your insides. Um, but I was such a big Bruce fan, and then we just got stuck. Like in mediocrity, and it just took the wind out of my sails. And, like, I guess it might be another situation where you just.
Don't know what you've got until it's gone. Like, I missed Rogers this year. I never thought I would say that. But I'm more excited about the future with Jordan Love and hopefully some high draft picks because. Yeah.
Good comment.
So. That's what I got. I also think that, you know, Mark even said in his comments, he just seems like the kind of boss who thinks that. He's the reason for the success. And meanwhile, like the reason that the brewers are where they are is because of Doug Melvin, Stearns, like.
Council, like it's these guys that are responsible. Mark, Mark didn't even hire Melvin, he inherited Melvin. Uh and I just Like in a statement, he was like, Oh, you know, we could go on talking about a half hour about like how unique we are and whatever. It's just. He seems like the kind of guy who thinks he's the reason.
For the success when it's all the people below him that he didn't even hire.
So I just that's it's just frustrating. Oh, Zach says, good call, John.
Well done. I just want to say, I'm out of here. No, too. Wait, hold on. James, real quick.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. DeRotweiler just threw $20 in just so I could get this message to Matt. to log on to Fortnite and play.
Okay, well. I got friends.
So Matt, I need you to log on to Fortnite now. Yeah. I'll send you half of that. Yeah. Uh I wanted to say that before I I left here From an on-the-field perspective.
I don't really care that much because I said it before. The difference between the greatest manager of all time and a pretty good manager is so minuscule in baseball. It's so much about the athletes. The coaching has so little to do with it. But it's Again, it feels like a betrayal.
Yeah. that far of a level, like you said, Bart. And unfortunately, he just dropped off, but I do want to say. You, I love you. You were absolutely electric yesterday.
Greatest Bart Winkler call of all time. Don't forget to save for retirement. Fuck yeah. Smrangler. That comment started my whole thing this morning when I was listening to that.
Like your retirement, oh, God. I haven't even been drinking and I'm already angry over what I missed that. Um I, so I don't know where to start with this. I'll start with the council thing.
So, I know that being in Iowa, it seems like I'm. displaced from all of this, but For whatever reason, and I can't explain it, Des Moines, Iowa, and Iowa in general is somehow Chicago West when it comes to Cubs fandom because of this stupid AAA team that's here, the Iowa Cubs.
So, the amount of fucking Cubs fans that I've had texting me and calling me today about this news is just unbearable.
So For I went to lunch with one at Tupelo Honey. Check out Tupelo Honey. Cafe.com. And when you make your reservation, Put Bart in the comments, they'll give you 20% off your food. Does that work at the Des Moines location?
You could try it and see what they say. Why not? But I was, I thought that, I thought that my sports listening couldn't get worse than everybody like. Begging for the Packers to win on yesterday's recorded podcast. And then, like in the middle of that, my buddy, who's like apparently my new shams, texted me and's like, What the hell is council doing?
Thinking, like, okay, well, he went to New York or Cleveland, and he didn't even. Luckily, like, tell me what happened.
So, I like logged on, and I was like, Oh my god, called my mother immediately, bless her heart. She's beside herself in Racine. Just can't even keep her lunch down. We're seeing Illinois. I've been.
Relax, okay. Not the time. All right, let's. Keep Jenny's. Home base out of it.
I got, hold on. I got two. There's someone in here, Fart Stinkler. Do you want to talk, Fart Stinkler? Give me a thumbs up if you do.
Or if you're just watching, give me a thumbs down. Fart Stinkler wants to talk. Fart stinkler. What's up? I just wanted to say go cubs go boys and you guys smell like park I didn't kick him off.
I didn't kick him off. That was the call today. Get back in here. Come back in here, you coward. He could have stayed as long as he wanted.
You can't just do a go. You don't have to do Baba Booi Howard Stern's penis on us. We'll fucking keep you.
Okay, my last thing. I just have to ask this real quick. I don't want to overstate my welcome. At this point, do we dig up the third base? Hoping to find Jimmy Hoffa?
Yes, absolutely. I mean, like. If there's any chance there's a reason for the curse, we have to figure it out. Cube, can you honestly say, real last question? Can you say that you would be okay watching council in the next?
two to three seasons win a World Series with the Cubs and be like Good for him. Yes. All right. I think so. Yeah.
I would be fine with it because he's from here and I want him to succeed. I think he wants to be the commissioner of Major League Baseball. Like, yeah. I guess I've just I've worked for a company before where you're just not getting what you need and like yeah me too. I'm sitting in the building right now.
Well, I I'm just saying like I feel for him. And if he's the best at his job and he's just not getting the resources that he needs and nobody's listening to him. Like go to your rival. Rub their face in it. I didn't even know if he wanted to manage this year or go watch his kid play fucking doubleheaders and shitty spring weather.
You don't know that he wants to be the commissioner. I think he knew for a fact he did not want to sign an extension with this. Organization. And now here's the nice familiar face here. This is our buddy Mark.
All right, I'm going to drop. See you guys. All right, Q. See you. I'm out of here, too.
Can't wait to hear what you have on the live show on Wednesday. Jesus Christ. At first I was like, it's the Cubs, and then I'm like, this is Marquette written all over it. 'Cause it's who? Mark Tolent.
Mark Tolkien. But I don't know, he's trying to come out as the good guy here, Mark. Did did you see his press conference earlier? Yeah, we just I just read some quotes, but I didn't watch it. I saw like online on the news.
It seemed like he was dodging the question. He wasn't answering it fully. Thanks. Yeah. So who are you mad at?
I met Mark. What about Craig? I don't think he has the talent to win here. Fucking trekking. I don't.
I mean, he's been playing for like years now, but... The players are producing Hear players. That's what an owner should make. Make the moves to All right. To pay people, to pay the players.
Sorry, I had to mute Matt. For playing the controller, again, it's always the second thing that people want to do. But I got paid twenty bucks to tell Matt to play that video game, so I guess I could allow the noise. It's a real tough position. I'm in.
See, there I am, just being like counsel. Being a whore for the money. Absolutely disrespecting what everybody thinks. And being a whore for the money. I want to see him happy for him.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not. Yeah. I think he's a traitor. But also, what I'm also realizing is.
I think I'll keep living my life. I think I'm actually just not liking baseball as much as I used to. I think I might I might be I might be having that problem. I don't know. Why We played we paid wiggle like eight million this year.
Who, Wake Miley? No, Winker. Oh, Winker. Yeah, he sucks. We're paying him more than we offer the council.
That that's just such a big. Yeah, I thought this Markana uh money would do. We do good. Um test user says baseball is broken. This guy says baseball is dying.
So, any next manager suggestions before I wrap up? I mean, they're probably going to look internal like Carlos Filanueva. I would love to see Ricky Weeks. uh A certain segment of the fan base heads explode. Because I always thought he's pretty underrated as a brewer.
Maybe Matt Erickson. I don't know. We could sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead, Matt. I was gonna ask if we could get Q back on here for his take on that.
I'll tell you who I want. I want Daniel Simeon Ricky Weeks. I want David Ross. The boss. Like Stan Ross.
And I don't care if David Ross is a shitty manager. Council made this personal and I want it to be personal back. I want it to be personal. I want, if Mark A is going to be all fucking like, oh, council's not a community anymore, then I want to get someone that's going to. Uh be like like Brett says, get the biggest asshole we can find.
Go get Tony LaRussa. Get fucking get Get Ken Mako, just get a huge dick. Get someone who's not going to come in here and placate the fan base for how I'm one of you. Get someone who does not give a fuck about us.
Okay, that's what I want. I guess I would just like a good man. We just had the guy that doesn't give a fuck about us. Oh, yeah. Shit.
I'm not even kidding. I've only had 12 hours to digest this. But I 100% want David Ross. I want it. I want to take the Cubs sloppy seconds.
I fucking want it. This this to me, I I kind of thought of it today. I was thinking about it today. I think Mark I think Mark thinks he's the face in this. Kind of the way that Vince McMahon thought he was going to be the face after he screwed Bret Hart.
And I think honestly, I think Maybe I'm just living in a bubble of my own. I think public sentiment is going to shift towards council. I think here's what's going to happen. There's going to be a lot of people that are shocked and upset and. trying to deal with the fallout and I think by the time that the Cubs come here in May, people will go to the game specifically to buy a ticket to Route 4 Council.
And I'm going to be pissed when that happens. Bart for David Ross campaign. It started now. Did you uh did you uh tape with InMake and Grant yet this week? No, we are off for the week.
Paul is on a vacation. Oh. Well, he was kind of the one that was a bandwagon to get counsel out of town.
So. We did have that discussion. Maybe I'll pull that up and. Yeah, I'll just clip it on YouTube and Yeah. Try to make Some money.
Um All right, that's all I got. Matt, you looks like you have a good night in store. Mark, anything else? Yeah. I just um sorry it b this may um extend it a little bit um As opposed to the A link in the chat about Um it's maybe his last.
Earlier From Kurt Hogg on Twitter. I suppose it's in the chat.
Okay. Uh At Nadio said, I'm high on what we have. I can't imagine somebody wanting to be somewhere else. Mentions commitment from various players, Bob Euchre, and his family, to stay in Milwaukee. This coming from the guys trying to get hundreds of millions of dollars in public money to stay in Milwaukee, talking about how great Milwaukee is.
Like, give me a break. I just Yeah. Hmm. Um You know who I watched the ultimate troll? Pat Murphy.
Pat Murphy. Uh No, well, that's going to be what we need to do if we have a stopgap situation, which we'll probably do. I want David Ross. I want to fuck shit up. Guys, good to see you both.
I'm going to wrap up today's episode here. And see ya. They just both left. They didn't say bye. Jeez.
Okay, but we had two more people join us that were not in there. Vehicle.
So that was That was good to see. What else do I have to say before I leave? This is part of a longer episode, so. That's going to all there's new content in there. Whatever, just download and.
Fucking I don't care. Buy Omaha steaks and fucking whatever dude you want. Fucking council and council supporters jumping in here, trying to. I'm thinking, oh, I'll get on and we'll just bash council. And everyone's like, I feel bad for him.
I'm going to root for the Cubs now. I'm going to fucking. Jesus, trust trying of God damn it. Do you have any self do you have any self esteem about the Brewers? These are the Milwaukee Brewers, the team that's gotten shit on for fifty years just for fucking existing.
We didn't do nothing wrong. We didn't do anything wrong. Then we get this guy that's one of us. I remember County Stadium.
So does he. I want to bring a winner to this team, we say, so does he. I can't. I love being a brewer.
So does he. And then he's gonna live here? And the drive's close? This is not about if Bart is going to Chicago or if one of you would get a job in Chicago. And this is a guy who sold himself as a brewer.
Not just as a brewer. as the brewer, as brewer. He wasn't all brewers. He was brewers. He was Brewers.
And now. Over the weekend. Cub said, and he goes, grab, grab, grab. When are we going to hear from him? And what's he going to say?
And how am I going to believe him? All Bruce fans, I love you. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Which bag Am I going to take a poop on?
Is all that I need to know. Whitefish Bay Police, you better heavily staff Craig Council Park because the next time I got to take a poop. I know just where I'm going. And a lot of times when I have to poop, it's actually three different poops over the course of 40 minutes.
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