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Ryan Horvat. Um It's kind of like the second podcast I'm doing today because I did one with. Andrew Wagner last night, and then I've never posted it on the audio. Oops. Um but no one cares just some just some house cleaning.
But wait a minute. I saw it because I was at the movie theater last night. And well, it was on the YouTube, but it wasn't on the wherever you get your podcast. Oh, okay.
So people could have watched it live, but they couldn't have gone back and listened if they wanted to catch it later. Gotcha. Yeah. Wagner, his dinner last night was. Five brats.
A s pack of sigs and a Some beer, outlaw beer. What's hilarious about that is uh Is he was like he tweeted at me when I was I was trying to get endorsed by some product. I forgot. Oh, the chicken strips. from um Costco because they're coffee, you know.
And I was talking about are they? They're like 1800 calories. I mean, you're getting, depends what one you're what ones you're looking at. The bare ones, though, you're getting good protein and calories aren't the issue. I mean, we're not going to do this right now, but that's what I was doing online talking about like weight loss and weightlifting and whatnot.
And Wagner was like, Trying so hard to lose weight, nothing's working. And then five brats, obviously, that's not going to help. By the way, if you're watching on the YouTube stream, I am in my bed right now. I didn't go to the broadcast setup because I've demolished that. I have to come up with something else for my next venture, whatever that is.
So I was out last night until. Like 2 a.m. You were out? Yeah, I went and saw the movie Uh Obsession. And I went to this like special screening of it.
It was an obsession.
So, like a bunch of right now, no names. I should probably check the actress in the movie.
So, first off, I don't want to spoil it for anybody. Because It's really hyped up. It's really hyped up right now. Like, let's see. I think it has.
Okay, so it's got a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes and an 8.1 out of 10 out of. 8.1 out of 10 on IMDB.
Sorry, I can't speak again. I'm not used to it. I'm usually in bed at 10. First time coming across IMDB there, bud? I'm telling you, man, this movie though.
Oh, this movie on Indiba. Hold on.
So, so the movie Obsession, right? You've probably seen the trailer. Anyway, the female actress is. I-N-D-E. Is that Indy?
Ind? I don't know. I-N-D-E? Babe! Say if my wife knows.
I am DB. I-N-D-E-Indy. I don't know. She's beautiful and she's awesome. The dude is Michael Johnston, which is your classic name.
Anyway, the guy that directed the movie is a YouTuber, which all these YouTubers, and also was doing, I think, like stand-up comedy or something like that, or comic shorts, all these guys that were in comedy. Like Jordan Peele. are all making these great horror movies. Anyway, I thought going into it, I was like, how is everybody... People were leaving the movie theater, and everybody was like, Oh my God, that movie is so fucked up.
That movie was so fucked up. And I smoked a joint to myself. And it was late. And I was by myself and I was walking in there, man, and I was like, kind of scared. I was like, is this a good thing?
Do I wanna be doing this? I'm kind of scared. I texted my brother. I was like, man, everybody is like, That movie fucked me up. I'm not going to sleep ever again.
I got to sleep with the lights on. And I'm like, what is going on? Because the trailer is. That's a pretty good endorsement, actually. I mean, I don't know what it is.
I want to see it now. The dude's in love with this girl. Like, he's kind of a nerd. He gets this wish thing, makes a wish. I want her to love me.
And then she becomes obsessed with him. And I was thinking, how is that scary? It looked kind of funny. Oh, that's girls that I was obsessed with. It's very scary.
Dude, I slept with the little light on last night because my wife and Nathan slept in his room because I was going to get home so late and I was like, Nah, that wasn't that bad. And then driving home, I kept thinking about it and I was like, oh my god, that was the most fucked-up movie ever. It was really good, though. You know what movie did that for me was Mothman Prophecies. I haven't been this fucked up after a movie since I saw, um What's the other one where the girl, the lady's possessed, and the girl gets her head chopped off?
You're not into horror movies, though, are you? Seven? No, that one didn't fuck um God, I really am tired. What the fuck? I don't know.
Look at IMDB. Hold on, it's going to come to me. Not weapons. Oh, hereditary.
Okay. Hereditary is insane. If you haven't seen that, he got it.
Okay. Yeah, anyway, movie lived up to the hype. I would check it out. I would check it out and I would stay off Twitter. Everybody on Twitter, this is the other thing I hate about that fucking app, man, since Elon's taken over.
Everybody just gives spoilers. And they get off on it. I saw, and they pop up on that for you section if you're not just on the following section, non-stop.
So people were just giving out the ending to scream and who the killer was. Yeah. I agree with what Jake said. She should have won an Oscar. And I think this girl in this movie.
Yeah. I think maybe uh Maybe, maybe. I was like, what the hell is that? Horbot stay off Twitter. I think that this chick should win an Oscar.
She was that good. She was creepy. Also, like I don't want to give anything away. That's that's what's hard, you know. About this.
Well, it's nice to walk out of a movie. I've been thinking about it non-stop. I may see it again today. When I walk out of mo the movies I've been seeing are either kids' movies or Marvel movies. And I walk out of these Marvel movies, or I walked out of like Superman.
And Nobody says anything because you're like. Was that good? Did I like that? What did I just see? I'm here.
I and I go to movies. 10 o'clock in the morning the day before they come out. Yeah. When it's with Marvel, it's like. I just watched Ant-Man go to the Quantum Realm.
Was that good? The answer is no. Yeah, you're really into the Marvel stuff right now. I'm really into the scary ones, and that one lived up to the hype. I would give it a five out of five.
I'd give it a fucking six out of a five. Yeah, fucking six, bro. Fucking six. I'm gonna go see it again. I'm gonna sneak and go see it again.
I told my wife because she's like, she'll watch some scary movies. Like she'll watch like weapons. But I was like, this one like will freak you out. But also you have to see it. Because It's deep, it makes you think.
You know, it's got like obviously some, I don't know, anyway. NFL. Uh Yeah, we're both doing good. Uh we're both w we're both doing good. Things are Yeah, being unemployed is great.
I get to go to movies, concerts. Yep, question your life worth. I have this weird feeling that I'm like I'm gonna die soon. Yeah, me too. I think I think also like at least for you though, your son is still young.
So I've hit this stage, man, where now I turned 40 years old, which, according to my Apple Watch, I'm actually only 37.1. Sick. I take such great care of myself. It's fucking sick. But You know, my son, he's twelve.
And so now 12 is the age. He turns on you. No, he doesn't turn on me. Still like loves me and wants to hang out, but just not as much. Like this weekend, we're going to the Nats game because some guy gave us tickets right behind home plate.
He'll go to concerts and the cool shit movies. It's Marlings, man. But like, no, no. But like after school he wants to go hang with his friends. My kid this morning goes.
Daddy, can we go to a Minnesota Timberwolves game next season against any opponent, like a mystery partner? I'm like, what? Why don't you just go to a Bucks game? Oh, yeah, they suck. And he wants to do something different.
Yeah. So everyone's mad at Giannis now because he shows up late for the plane. God, I'm so sick of hearing all you guys talk about Giannis. I just want them to trade him. I'm sick of it too.
I'm not saying he's washed, but he's never going to be the best player. His knees are broken. He's never going to be the best player on a championship Bucs team ever again. Wow.
So it's just trade them. You know what I mean? Like. Who I because I'm hearing like I see these social media clippings and it's like. Could the books trade for Joe Lembe?
And I'm like, no, you guys can't. And even if you do, like, he's not going to stay. With even worse knees, we're going to trade for someone with worse knees. That's what I saw. And I'm like, this is what you guys are talking about?
Like, n Like, just trade them and just start all over again. Be the Bulls for the next two decades and be terrible, and then you'll forget all about the NBA. But no, no, like so going back 12 years old, man. He's got like his own life now and then he's gonna be in high school. And I feel like I'm still 20 years old and I'm like.
What's next? Because now I don't have a radio show. I'm not out covering games. I'm like, Man, my son's going to be like moved out of the house. My wife has an awesome job.
And it's like, what's the best thing? Yeah, I had, I had, like, the stuff I've done. I'm happy about and proud of. Um Like that was my career. My career is over.
I was thinking, like, I should go and become like a coach or a teacher or something like that. I think my career is over. But I don't think I could teach because I can't even. It took me 20 minutes to remember what hereditary was called. The title of it.
Yeah. You got to know your fan. Right. I'd probably have to maybe take a couple. months off of some festivals to get some brain cells back.
We are going to win-loss the Packers schedule. Typically. They tell you get right to the point. Um, and we you and I never do that.
Well, we're catching up. We're buddies. And I saw an awesome movie last night and I wanted to talk about it. Fucking six out of five. Yeah.
Um, I had a hot pocket last night and then threw it up immediately. Oh, oh, one more thing, though. I just believe it's out, not that anybody cares or sees anymore on Twitter. Like, you know what's crazy, man, is I have like the I nobody, my views, I feel like I've been shadow banned, and I know me too. Oh, yeah.
I mean, I talk a lot of shit to um to Elon himself, so it would make sense that nobody sees any of my stuff anymore, but um. I bet a bunch of shit. It's Caesars, which is how I continue to pay bills and live in my nice place, is because luckily we could still gamble even when we don't have jobs. Lions best record, they have the easiest schedule. 11 best record in the league in the league is plus 1100, 11 to 1.
Lions win total. Over 10 and a half wins, minus 130. This team's winning at least 12 games. Rams. Play one of the toughest schedules in the league.
Everybody's going to hype him up. I don't like what they did in the draft, pissing off Matthew Stafford. Under 11 and a half wins, minus 130. The Bengals have a top five easy schedule. I think they actually stay healthy.
Do you hear any of this above me or no? No. Oh, there's a vacuum going. Bengals to win the AFC North part is plus one ninety. The Bengals to win ten games is minus one forty, but I like that.
The Commanders to win the East is plus five hundred. I think the Eagles are going to be a fucking disaster. And I'm not buying into the Giants yet. Everybody loves the Cowboys. They play a tough-ass.
I love the Cowboys. I like the Commanders to win the East 5-1. I like the Saints to win the South. They play a top-five easy schedule. I like Shuck plus 280.
Titans over 6.5 wins, minus 110. Lions to win the Super Bowl. 15 to 1. Joe Burrow, MVP. 10 to 1.
I bet all those today, and I guarantee at least one, two, three, four, five, six, seven of these are winners. The one I'm not so sure about guarantee seven of them are winners. I mean, it's hard to guarantee a Lions Super Bowl, but I really like that price. You know, like last year, I. Faded them coming into the season.
I went under on the win total because they played a first-place schedule and I didn't like the defense.
Now they've spent some money on the defense. And the more important thing I think is that Hutchinson is going to be another year healthier. Like last year, he was solid, but I didn't trust any of the other edge rushers. Like, I don't trust fucking Marcus Davenport to play 10-plus games because he never does.
Now, Hutchinson's going to be healthier. I like the secondary, and the offense wasn't the issue. You could play him, you know, like the play caller and Ben Johnson leaving. It was a little bit of a mess, but they scored a ton of points.
So I think they have a bounce back here. I really like that one. Like, you know, I'm not sure that Joe Burrow wins the MVP, and you could probably get a better price than 10 to 1, but I like the Bengals this year. And I think the Titans are going to be at least a seven-win football team. I hated the Robert Salah hire until they hired Brian Dayball.
And I like Cam Ward.
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Ken says, love the show, guys, but with NFL teams jumping from six wins to 10 or 11 back and forth almost every year. I don't put much stock in strength of schedule or projections. Hopefully the Packers will win at least 10 in a playoff game. Or four. There's a tweet here that I really like that I wanted to bring up with you because I think we are.
Guilty of this. It's from Carter Donick. I love all fans using the scheduled release date as a way to make their prediction for this season because they all go the same way. Sweep the bad division team, split verse the good. 9-8 to 11-6 prediction.
If you missed the playoffs last year, 13 and 4 though, if you made it. And that's probably where we'll be today, yes? Yeah, probably. I don't know, man. I've been going back and forth with this team because I was going to bet them.
I mean, I'm going to bet them.
Well, I was going to do a bid today and take them to only win like four games because. I can't, I can't with the floor. I dislike him so much. I think he's such a bad coach. We're never going to win a Super Bowl with him.
I don't want to go through this. Yeah. Yeah, if my if I knew Micah Parsons was going to be healthy for and and he's not going to be healthy to start the season, but if he was going to be healthy for the entire year, I'd I'd actually bet like legit money on them to win the Super Bowl. And I might look at a Jordan Love MVP price. Uh but I've been going back and forth.
On this team.
Well, let's see what Matt LaFleur says. I just saw this video, I haven't watched it yet. But Matt LaFleur Apparently, it breaks down the schedule. that is both as popular as the NFL has gotten. That you just got to get them things cool.
Them adding Ticketmaster almost makes me want them to watch it. It'll be an electric ticket, as it always is. He doesn't say anything important. Look who else is live today, Mike Heller. TMJ.
All right, that's a waste of time. Tim will add that out in post. Um All right. What do they got going? Scaffiti?
Yeah, I think scaffied's. The mayor is on there. He used to come on the big show all the time. Do you remember that? Scaffiti or the b or who wait who?
Scaffiti. No. Yeah, I don't know if I was there or not. All right, here is the Packers schedule. Hit me.
I have yet in the Five years we've done this. I have yet to figure out how to like. Edit this as we do it or keep good track. Um So I think it would be best. If I did it and you did it separately.
Okay. Otherwise, it's too Hard. to keep track.
Now, what I do want to go through before we do that. Is just take a glance. Would you mind taking a glance? At the schedule with me? First of all, the preseason, they are going to go to Pittsburgh in the preseason.
You could get over there for that. Face big Mike. Uh we'll see. And I think the Broncos, they have a road trip, and then the Cardinals are here.
So here's what we got. And oh, gold package. Gold package is for the Milwaukee fans. That have two divisional games, and everyone's already worried they're going to sell all their tickets. And they probably will.
And who cares? All right. The parts of the schedule that are attractive. Is these first four games? It's at Minnesota, at the Jets.
Atlanta's at home on a Thursday night. And then we don't have a Sunday home game until October 11th. But then the Buccaneers.
So you're three of four on the road, but we're assuming. Michael won't be back until at least week five. You have a division opponent in there, not great. But I think we wanted to avoid the Bears specifically, I guess.
So I think that's good. The Jets are in there, they'll probably stink. Did they sign Russell Wilson yet? Or is he going on TV or is he dragging out this decision like people give a shit? No, it's Gino time, ain't it?
I mean, I don't know what the fuck who cares. Yeah, but Gino wants Russ back to back him up now. I I don't care about either of those guys. And then at the end, you have five. Or four of your last five games at home.
After that Saints game. You're not traveling. The only time you're traveling outside of Wisconsin is a quick jaunt down to Chicago.
So they're pretty much. Home for the holidays. Um And that's, you know, good.
So there's that in there. There's, they're playing all different dates. I think the Rams game is the one to look at because it's like, what are we doing here? We're playing on my Blackout Wednesday. And then the Bears on Christmas is going to ruin my fucking Christmas again.
Um Packers put out a scheduled video. I didn't really watch all of it. I don't really watch all these things. I think the schedule videos that teams put out are like fun and good, and you should enjoy them. But I don't think that people the next day, like me right now, I shouldn't be doing this.
I shouldn't be talking like, we'll come back. We're going to break down the scheduled release videos, which is everybody's favorite. I haven't watched one of them. I didn't see any of them. There's so many people that don't.
There's so many people that don't. And I think one of the problems that I run into a lot is Like on the radio, big weakness for me is I just assume. Everyone sees the same shit on Twitter. That I do, and I'm talking about shit on Twitter. Like, oh, you won't believe what this guy said to me on Twitter.
No one gives a shit. Yet Twitter Is probably going to prevent me from ever working again because I'm unhinged rageoholic. I don't know. It's a catch 22. I just wait until the next day when I'm going to place bets on season win totals and division prices, and I just look at every team's schedule.
I don't even look online, I don't watch. The show. I look at some of the leaks, but it's about to check out what the Chargers did. The Chargers had Halo, and the Colts did a Simpsons one, and you got to check out the Tennessee Titans. You know when I realized we lived in the lamest times when it was when they even had to like come out and say like the NFL won't discipline teams.
If they include Mike Vrabel. Or Diane or Sam. And no one did anything. Yeah, like, but who, like, why would they even come out? Like, who cares, man?
And I'm so sick of people defending them. Or going after, like, I honestly don't even care about the story anymore, but I just feel like the weirdest people ever were the people that were like defending it. The dubs, let them do whatever they want. Like, yeah, they're cheating on their spouses. And one of them is-she's getting inside information and reporting it.
Like, it's kind of like the way that it goes, right? Like, the more popular or the more important you are on the planet, like, you really can't fuck up, right? Like, that's why you want to draft Fernando Mendoza and not Johnny Manzel, because he's the face, the quarterback of your organization. Right? Like, so if like Cheryl from down the street was fucking Mike from down the street, nobody would care.
You know why? Because they're not celebrities. One's not an NFL head coach. They're not in the public. They're not these public figures.
So nobody cares. But Cheryl and Mike are fucking. It kind of comes with the territory. It's what you sign up for, right? Like Mike Vrabel makes a ton of money and gets to take vacations and live in homes and.
Do things that the average human doesn't get to do. All he has to do is keep his dick in his pants and be a good dad and a good leader. Diana Rossini has a job that you want, that I want, right? She's getting job offers. I'm not getting job offers because I went out in Las Vegas three hours after my fucking show.
Or because my the pirate that they put me with was getting angry because I had more views and downloads than them.
So now I don't get to work. Like, she doesn't get to work because she was fucking an NFL head coach while she was covering the team. Who is defending that? A lot of people that want to weirdos in Philadelphia that only have jobs because their dad was in the business, anyway. Anyway.
A lot of people are defending. Felt good to get that off my chest. A lot of people are defending. Diana Rossini, because they want to be next. But like, you know, like, you know, and people are always.
That's my theory. Bart, Bart, you've been canceled. Like, A, you weren't canceled, right? Like, your political views or your tweets aren't the reason that you don't have a job. The reason that you or I don't have a job is because our companies are cheap as fuck.
And merged because they don't care. Everything that you said is the truth, right? Like, they don't care. Right? Like the program directors don't care about you, the listener.
They care about who can we get in here that's cheap so we don't have to spend money and we could get more advertising.
So, everybody's like, I don't want my facial reactions to be shown during canceled. These people did things to get canceled, and that's what I'm talking about about this business, though, is that everybody just defends their friends. This guy has a job on Fox Sports One because his friend works for the company and put in a good, it's just a big circle jerk, dude. And if you didn't go to Syracuse or Fordham, you're and this might sound like Um You know, like I'm uh. I don't think you're the healthy.
I don't think talking to you right now today is very healthy for me.
Sorry. I was just, well, that story bothered me because it's like, well, Diana Rossini, like, she'll get a job at Barstool. She'll get a job here.
Well, she shouldn't because what she did was really fucked up and bad. What you did was told people to wear a mask. I don't even know what I did to get canceled. Probably this.
Well, I think I'm already probably cooked anyway. I'm I'm look looking for jobs as a special teams coordinator, so Yeah, I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do.
Well, this. When lost the Packers. I'm just going to get in the car and start delivering. I'm not even going to sign up for apps. I'm just going to like.
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They've had this uh They had this deal for you. At AbbyPlayshem.com. Promo code Bart. Robert says, I can't wait to find out Bart has been having an affair with Matt LaFleur. And his hate has just been a way to throw us off the scent.
of love. Yeah, he won't call me back. And um This is the only way I know how to fight back at him. Yeah, don't you kinda wish that Matt LaFleur was having a affair with Diana Rossini? There's no way you can get rid of them, just get it.
No, the Packer fans, Packer fans would be like Oh cheating's fine. Uh the cheating's great. Uh but you're not you're not you're not married until you cheat. Before we win, lost the schedule, I can't remember what your take was on the Gannon hire. Do you like him or no?
No, Matt LaFleur. Matt LaFleur won't hire someone. That Can cuck him.
Okay, so hold on. I love the hire. Because, okay, I really like Jonathan McCarthy. I'm just glad he finally had a press conference. I mean, my lord.
I thought he was going to be a good head coach. I was wrong about that. I thought Arizona was going to live up to the hype because I thought, and we'll get to this team I know, or this quarterback when we talk about the Vikings, like I thought that Kyler was going to be good last year. I even drafted him to be my fantasy quarterback in my dynasty league. Turns out.
He sucks or stunk last year. He's probably gonna tear it up this year. But I just, I think, like Jonathan Gannon, there's certain guys, obviously, Dennis Allen. I don't think they're NFL head coaches. But I think they're really good coordinators.
And I think that that's Gannon. And what I like about them. Is he's a weirdo, dude. I have a take. If You're a head coach.
You got to be pretty normal. Like, there could be some, like, you know, the Dan Campbell or Mike Vrabel type guys that are hardos, but they're like hardos, but they're not like. Totally off the rocker. If you're a defensive coordinator, I think the crazier you are, the better the coordinator. Why do we pretend like Jeff Hafley was some fucking god?
I don't know. You know, it's probably because of like what everything that we've done. Is Gannon? Is he going to be a sideline guy or a booth guy? And I don't know that it matters, but I will tell you, I'm tired of all our guys being booth guys.
Regardless, I think that it'll probably like change week four. There'll be like a performance where they give up 40-plus points and it'll be like, oh, Gannon's coming down to the field. They're always going up to the box. The defense will perform better for like three or four weeks. We'll get our hopes up.
Then we'll go to the playoffs and give up like 300 rushing yards to Saquon Barkley. But I think, though, the crazier, like, he's a weird dude. Like, if you go back and you watch some of his press conferences, I think the weirder the dude, the better the defensive coordinator.
So, I really like the hire. I am. Pretty sure he'll never be a head coach again? But if he wants to be, he's going to have to show out just like Robert Sala did last year for the 49ers.
So I like the hire. I do, but again, I don't hate I don't hate LaFleur like you do. I think LaFleur is a good coach. I think he's... Like a little bit of a bitch, but I think he's a good coach.
Well, let me tell you this: off of the Rossini-Vrabel discussion. Um so I'm sure like You know, their spouses still love. The person, but it's not the same. Yeah. I still love the Packers.
But I feel like as long as they have LaFleur as the coach, they're cheating on me. Yeah, I'm not a Goudekins guy. I like LaFleur. LaFleur can't win. How do you n what do you mean he can't win?
He can't win playoff games. He had two seasons of your boy, MVP Aaron Rodgers, two MVP seasons. Yeah, get comfortable. Ugh yeah, I gotta switch around here. Um And lay lay back, spread them out.
I mean should we just get to the schedule? What are we doing? No, no, why Well, they could have won the Super Bowl that year. If David, you could blame.
Okay, so LaFleur wasn't very good in that game. But the issue really made a one-score game, a one-score game.
Okay, Ryan. His decision-making at the end, yeah, that was one of the worst decisions of all time. But That's not the reason that they lost to Tampa Bay. They would have beat that Tampa Bay team. They were the better team.
What happened that year was David Bakhtiari. Torres ACL at a random ass practice before the Bears game. What was that, like week 15 or week 16? Rodgers in that game was excellent. He throws the one intersection, right?
Remember when Battiari came back for one game and then deuced out the rest of the year? That was so weird. That was the following year though. Yeah, but dude, that's not in front of me. I know he threw for like 374 yards, three touchdowns, and one pick, but I also know that he was sacked five or six times and he was under pressure on like 70% of his drop backs against a really good defensive line.
But then two weeks later, Ah, fucked Pat Mahomes. On national TV, beat the shit out of the Chiefs, pressured him on 80% of his drop backs. That defense. was like all time good. And Green Bay could have beat that team.
The only reason they didn't is because we didn't have our star tackle that we paid $100 plus million. Right, like LaFleur wasn't great in that game, but if they're healthy, and I'm not an excuses guy, every team deals with injuries, Green Bay wins that game. They should have won the game regardless. Yeah, Kevin King got fucked. You know, like, I thought LaFleur, those first couple of years, man, did a really good job.
Like, year one, the offense was. Clunky, but it was because Rodgers was asked to do things that he wasn't used to doing. Going under center more, he wasn't able to check at the line of scrimmage. Year two, Rogers got more freedom. And then, you know, after that, it was the MVP seasons.
I thought LaFleur was in his bag. I thought last year he was fucking terrible. Two, you know, it started really bad the first year with Jordan Love, and then the second half of the season, remember how good LaFleur was and how creative the play calling was? Last year was a terrible job. I want to see.
What he gives us this year before I judge. I think he's, I'm still going to say he's a really good NFL head coach. I'm going to say LaFleur is still a top 10 NFL head coach.
Okay. Let me bring up the schedule here. Yeah. Oh, actually this is the athletics rankings of schedule release videos. I didn't see the Seahawks win yet, but I got to check it out.
I really liked the Tennessee Titans. You know, they're going to do a bang-up job.
Someone needs to give these social media interns a raise. Oh, we're 28. Yeah, I don't know. I don't give a shit. Leroy was in it.
I saw that. The Chargers are so lame. Aren't they?
Okay. I was going to say, look at these teams that win the fucking ratings. They don't do shit. And then. Seattle won the Super Bowl last year, but did they?
Was that the l that that was the least like No one cared about it because we were all fighting about fucking Bad Bunny. I think Seattle misses the playoffs this year. I don't know that Sam Darnold's even good yet. On that team, I don't even know that he needs to be good, but I just feel like they're going to miss. That division is so tough, right?
Like the Rams, the Niners. It's not going to be every year that you get three fucking teams in the playoffs in the same division. All right, pulling up on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream is the Packers schedule. Um, do you want to go first? You know what?
I kind of do. I want to go first.
Okay. All right. Um Fuck, I hate this week one game. Yeah, it's a fucking loss. On the road at Minnesota with a brand new look, Minnesota offense, a really good head coach, a really good defense, no micah.
Chasing down Kyler Murray. I'll tell you, let me bitch about something. Every Bears person is going to fucking predict them to go 14 and fucking three. I'm already mad. Oh, no.
Bad news for those motherfuckers. I didn't put it on my Twitter thing because I didn't want to hear from them yet. I under, under, under, under. They are going to regress. Dude, they led the league in takeaway that defense was horseshit, but they led the league or they were second in the league, whatever it was, in takeaways.
You know, it's the hardest thing to replicate. Besides injury, I told you I was up late last night, dude. Got him. Told you I was uploading. I haven't even been to the gym yet today.
I uh I hate this game, though, week one.
So I'm going to go loss. I think it's going to be. A tight game. I'll go Minnesota. 35 Packers 28.
Week two. This almost seems too easy. Like it should be a curb stomping. You know what scares me about the Jets? Sure, they don't have a quarterback.
Sure, they have a legit idiot as a head coach. But my God, does that team have some fucking speed? And I still have some serious concerns about the defense until Micah comes back. Doesn't matter if it's Geno or Russell. Yeah, let's start on two seconds in the pocket to get the ball out to all that speed.
This could be a loss, but I can't pick Aaron Glenn. To beat the Green Bay Packers.
So I'm going to say the Packers win. But they don't cover. I'm going to say it's like. Low scoring 21-17 Green Bay win. You know, they have spreads for every game already.
Who's betting on that? Why would you get on a week sixteen game right now? You don't it in the NFL, but in college football I do bet games of the year and get good closing line value. You know, like if you're really high on a team's power ratings coming into the season, or if you have some information. It's getting harder to do that now, right?
Like, we all see the same fucking transfer portal. Oh, Indiana's got Mendoza coming in. They're gonna be good. But I do I'll bet like a college football. Like, you know, game of the week, game seven, Notre Dame USC.
If I think the lion's gonna move, but in the NFL, good point, especially with injuries. That's craziness. Week three, I'll give him a win over Atlanta just because every year I overhype Atlanta. Oh, Michael Pennix was the answer. Oh, Kirk Cousins, great signing.
I just feel like they're never going to get it right. They have so much. That's Thursday night. That's at home. That's their first home game.
Yeah, LaFleur revenge game. Another team with an idiot as a head coach. I'll say the I'll say they start two and one. I also think they're going to go on the road and beat the living shit out of Tampa. I think Tampa is going to really regress this year.
Baker did last year. Once he got banged up. First eight weeks of the season, he looked like the MVP of the league. No more Mike Evans. Like, I like Abuka.
What's that offense going to look like and defense? I think that's going to be a win.
So I think they're going to start pretty hot here, actually. I'm going to go. They go two and two in this stretch.
Okay, I got three in one here. I don't know. I think the Vikings is a loss. the fucking thing right your owner are you just gonna do it with me No, I changed my mind. All right.
So Vikings, you're going lost, me as well. I kind of think they lose to the Jets, but I don't want to put that into the atmosphere. He got three games on the I don't know. I don't I don't like the back-to-back road games. I don't like our head coach.
I think he's bad. And I think there's so many people that are gonna be like, Oh, well, the first four, Micah Parson. I think we're going to be like, Micah, get the fuck back here. We're two and two. What I like about LaFleur going into this year, not saying he's not a lame duck coach.
Two is going to come in here. Kick our ass with the fucking Falcons or whoever they're gonna play. I like that LaFleur this year, though, has a lot to prove, right? Because not saying he's not on the hot seat or anything like that, but he's got, you know, guys like you and. Ben Brust or whoever else calling for his head and saying he's an idiot as a head coach.
And he's probably right now, hopefully, in the lab, like throwing fucking. Darts at a board with your head on it. I think LaFleur is going to give us his best coaching job and he's going to be extra motivated.
So I think they blow through this pass to the schedule, except for that opener against Minnesota. I think they're going to beat the living shit against the Bears. They're going to get their revenge and they're going to make it like really ugly. I think Ben Johnson finally gets a taste of his own medicine. Not being a homer, even, I'm going to bet the hell out of the Packers in that game.
Revenge game from a playoff loss, Ben Johnson talking all that shit. Bears defense is going to take a huge step back. I like Caleb, but I think it might be rough at times for him this year. Give me the Packers there. I think they're going to beat up on the Cowboys.
I think the Cowboys are a little overhyped. In Detroit, I think that that's going to be a loss. I think the Lions are the real deal. I think there's a good chance they win the Super Bowl this year. Carolina, I think that that's going to be a win.
Carolina beat him last year by like not even trying to win. Yeah, now I kind of think that Carolina takes a step back because people think that they're building something. Everybody loves Tep McMillan. Bryce Young had a good playoff game. The defense was much better last year.
They like the coaching staff. I think now they probably like shit down their legs because I still am not there with Bryce Young. Man, I think they're going to beat up on New England. That's another team I'm looking to fade this year. Tom Brady, that'll be his return to Foxborough in the Fox booth, FYI.
Yeah. You got rappel fucking reporters. You had Will Campbell was an absolute disaster on the offensive line the second half of the season. I think the Patriots have some serious regression. I do think that they split with Minnesota, so I'll give them this one.
I think that they beat them week 10. All right, take a timeout at the bye. Take a timeout at the bye. All right. So what are you at the buy?
You have two losses. 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, 5-2, 6-2, 7-2. I got them 8-2. All right, that's not going to happen. I like what you're saying about the Bears and Cowboys, those games both at home.
I'll give them a chance. Why is that not going to happen? What don't you like about the team? Don't just say the coach. Why is it not going to happen?
They're going to lose to Detroit and then they're going to come home and lose to the Panthers again. They're not going to lose the Panthers. And then they're going to beat New England, and they're going to beat the Vikings. I've got them now at Six and four. Wow.
Yeah. All right, out of the bye. Look, I watched a team last year that. lost some really shitty games. That no one saw coming.
And that was with Micah Parsons. They were bad without Micah Parsons, but also they were losing stupid games with Micah Parsons. Let's not pretend they would have won the Super Bowl. If they had Micah Parsons and Tucker Kraft, because they were up 21-3 against the Bears without them. Yeah, but like a lot of these bad teams are good teams, right?
Like Cleveland is, I'm telling you, Cleveland this year, their win total is now six and a half, and I think they go over. They just don't have a quarterback. When they get their quarterback of the future, last year they had the best defense in the league. That's why they beat the Packers. McVay always beats LaFleur, doesn't he?
He's gonna. I don't trust LeFleur out of the bye. I hate that spot.
So, week 12. No, and it's gonna be a Wednesday game.
So, LeFleur will like fuck up with the travel. Yeah. Six and five. Um I think they also lose on the road against the Saints. I think the Saints are going to be.
They probably will because. I will be there. Oh, that's your game this year? Yeah, and we always see horrendous fucking games. Last year, we saw Micah Parsons blow out his leg.
The Saints are either going to build off how they finished the year last year, or they're going to be an abortion. And I think they're going to build off of what they did last year.
So I got that as a loss. And then I got the Buffalo game as a loss.
So they lose three straight out of the buy. Ooh, Horvey. Miami. The Malik Willis revenge game, I think they win that by. Double digits, so that's a win.
Um I think they lose At Soldier Field I think they split with the Bears. I think they lose to the Texans, and then I think they lose again to the Lions.
So. So what are you at now?
So, a rough, a rough go second half of the season, I think. You're building up a score and then you tore him down. I could be wrong because that could be when they start to peak, because Mike is back and he's Mike again. He's fully healthy.
So, what's your record? One and one, two and one, three and one, four and one, five and one, six and one, seven and one, eight and one. Nine and wait, eight and two. I'm sorry. Uh Wow, eight and three, eight and four, eight and five, nine and five, nine and six.
Nine and seven, nine and eight. Wow.
Yeah. Bart, you need to get over your hatred of LaFleur. They're not going to be six and four before the buy. Come on, man. Horvat's building up LaFleur and it only took him to finish one game over five hundred.
Well, okay. They could win that Texans game because CJ Stroud's an idiot. But man, is that yeah, it'll be cold.
So that give him a win. You're a 10 win guy. I'm not letting you come on here and not take a double digit Packer win. You're right. You're right.
Damn it. 10. I'll go 10. I want to go more, and I hope that I'm wrong. But again, I need to see what the secondary looks like.
I need to see what the rookies look like. And I need to. Again, if Micah's not coming off at torn ACL, I'm taking him to win the Super Bowl in 12, 13 games. But dude, like... you know Who's going to get consistent pressure on the quarterback these first couple weeks?
Like in this league, you need legit pass rushers, or you're a dog shit team. If you have a legit pass rusher like Micah Parsons. You could mask how inexperienced your secondary is. Like do we trust Van Ness to be that guy? He was good last year, but now he's get He's going to get all the attention.
No more like no more g I I just That's the thing. Too many question marks for me to go too hard on this team. And I think Detroit's going to be really good. And I think Minnesota is going to be good. And I think Chicago takes a step back.
Fuck you, Bears fans. Gave you guys a lot of love last year, and then you were, you talked too much shit.
So, done with you.
So, if I am six and four at the bye. They're going to lose to the Rams. They're going to beat the Saints.
So I'll be seven and five. The Bills, I'm going to give him a dub over the Bills. I'm gonna go eight and five. They're going to lose on Christmas. They're going to beat the Dolphins.
Yeah, no, but I think They're going to beat the Texans and they'll beat Detroit. I got them at 11 wins.
So after the buy, they're only going to lose. The Rams game, they're going to win six in a row to end. No, they can't. I'll go 10. They'll lose one of those games.
No, I had Christmas: 10, 10, and 7. 10 and 7. Another seven seed. That's another six seed. They're not going to win the division.
Okay, that'll be Detroit. And it'll be 10 and 7. Oh, Robert says there's going to be at least one tie. Very good point. Very good point.
I'm more confident that Matthew Golden has a breakout year than I am this team wins this game miss many games or loses this many games. I'm going to bet his receiving yards and his season long touchdowns. I think Matthew Golden's going to blow up this year. Yeah, I think it's a little bit of a major. He is.
He will be wide receiver number one. There's a reason why they're cool with Dobbs leaving and whatnot. I think Matthew Golden has a big, big year. Yeah, I think like this team, like they could win the Super Bowl or they could miss the playoffs. I feel like you like in today's NFL, you could say that about everybody, right?
Or unless you're a Rams fan or you're going into the season with really high expectations. I think they're going to be a little bit of a bust, though, because of that schedule. And like is Stafford going to stay healthy for an entire MVP type season again?
Well, then they got your boy Ty Simpson. He ain't ready. First round pick. Yeah. McVay didn't want him though, just like LaFleur didn't want Jordan Locke.
No, the florist couldn't stop smiling that night. Remember that? Do you think that uh Jordan Love is going to have a Big year this year? I do. I think he's very good.
You think he throws for over four thousand yards? No. I think he does. I'm going to bet that. Especially if the defense isn't very good to start the season.
I think they're going to be in some fucking shootouts, especially while they're trying to learn a new scheme. I think Jordan Love might throw for like 5,000 yards this year.
So that's going to be another. That'd be so fucking awesome. That'd be so awesome. Matthew Golden touchdowns. If you like, I might as well bet Jordan Love to win MVP.
I think it's like 20 to 1 or 22 to 1. Real small. Him and Joe Burrow are my picks.
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I love the NFL and I love football. Way too much fucking football.
Okay, like I want to sit down on Sundays, on Mondays, and on Thursdays and watch the family. You see the Christmas? Like, if once you look at the Christmas, I'll show you that graphic. Yeah, like when the hell, like, I. I mean I just, I can't do it all day.
I like to be locked in. And even if the game's on TV, I'm not paying attention. I'm summoned to be a shitty parent that day. Oh, and the Packers are on Husband. The Packers are on streaming services.
Four different times. And that's the other thing, man. You know, like at first with the streaming services, I was like, God, you guys are old. You sound like my grandfather. Shut the fuck up.
Get Peacock and watch the game. But when you have to have every streaming service, When I went to go turn on... I wanted to watch an NBA playoff game the other day. And so I turned on Prime. But it was actually on Peacock.
I was like, oh, fuck this, man. I'm not, I'm not. You get one streamer in the playoffs. Like, my issue is, dude, right? I pay for the Sunday ticket, not the fucking red zone channel, the Sunday ticket.
And so I want a couple different things. I want the game mix. that I've been talking about look at this Christmas week shit. Every game, not just a couple of them, every game on one board, so I could watch every game. I don't like the red zone channel.
And if you purchase the Sunday ticket, which gets more expensive every year, I know Trump said, like, Hits $1,000. He ain't that fucking far off, though, dude. If you're getting the ticket, and I have the ticket. And so I should be able to watch Thursday night football. You know what I mean?
Like the Sunday ticket should be: you get every single NFL football game that kicks off all season long. Like, they play. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. That's my issue.
Like, I have to have the ticket because I live out here in DC.
So, like, if I want to watch the Green Bay and I want to watch every game, but if I want to watch the Packers, I have to have the ticket or go to a bar every Sunday and spend a bunch of money. And so That's already over $400 or whatever it is. And then all the streaming services for $10, $15 a month. It's crazy. It's gotten ridiculous.
I don't think it's old man yelling at clouds anymore. I think it's like, especially in this country, when we're paying $8 a gallon for gas.
Well, look at this. If you have the ticket. This Vikings game is probably going to be nationally televised. I don't know what else is on at noon that day, but let's say no. Let's say you don't get it in your area.
So that's one game you get. The Jets game, let's say you don't get, that's two. The Falcon game is on Prime. Uh you'll need it for the bucks. Not for the Bears, not for the...
Lions, the national game. That'll be a national game against the Lions, the Cowboys, the Panthers, the Patriots. It'll be a Brady game. That's national. Um so the first 10 weeks Four of those games you wouldn't be able to watch.
So you're paying for four games. You don't need it for the Rams. You need it for the Saints. Not for that one, but for that one. You're getting like, you're paying to watch the Packers on Sunday ticket.
You're essentially paying for seven games. Like my mom's a really like my mom's a diehard Packer fan and like loves the team more than I do, but Fib lives in Illinois. She's like, I don't want the fucking Sunday ticket. I just want to watch the Packers every week. And so she's trying to like download like FUBU TV and go into like random like, you know, establishments.
Just that that's fucked up, man. That's fucking crazy. You know, like. Not everybody, people have jobs and have to move out of the state, have to move from Wisconsin.
So The Sunday ticket. If you purchase that, boom, every game should be on there, including the Christmas game. And yeah, I do have an issue. Like, I'm a big Christmas fan. I love football.
I love football more than the next guy, just as much as the next guy. But Like, there's more to life than football. Jesus Christ, man, this season, it's like a chore to watch all these games. It's expensive, and it's become a chore. And the product.
You don't have to watch everything. I do though. I know. Yeah, we do. That's the whole fucking point.
I mean, I keep asking myself, though, now that I don't host the nightly show, do I really need to watch? Like Raiders, Broncos, Thursday night. Fuck yeah. I've watched like none of these NBA playoffs, like fucking none. Oh, I hate the NBA.
We've went over this in the last podcast. I never want to be. You guys tell me it actually was not happening, and I believe you. I would never be a hater. Like, I can't believe you watch the NBA.
It's a dog shit product or anything like that, but I just don't watch it. I think it is a dog shit product. It's terrible. And I never, like you said, I never know where to find the games. I gotta, like, because I like to.
Even though I have multiple T V's.
Sometimes on one T V I want to have the baseball game, the NBA playoff game, the hockey game, and then like something my wife or my son are watching. And I can't do that if I have to have a streaming service up on one of the TVs. That's the worst part about it. Like, right now, there's too much going on. I gotta watch my baseball team, the Cubs.
gonna make me put my head through a wall. I gotta watch your guys' fucking team because you never go away. This year, I gotta watch all the teams in the Central because the division is loaded. We got the hockey playoffs, the Stanley Cup playoffs going on. I wanna watch that.
So it's like I don't have a TV for the NBA because I can't single screen them. My sabres are choking. They are. I'll tell you one thing here, a regret that I think I have about the COVID era. Because we wanted We wanted sports to come back.
That was my main thing. I want sports to come back. Let's get this out of here. Yeah. Um Looking back, I should have taken the break.
Like my whole life has been sports, sports, sports, sports sports. I should have been like. I'm going to take this time to take the break. I don't need to watch the last dance. The last dance was awesome.
I know, but I don't need to be like, oh, we get Korean baseball. You couldn't have taken a fucking break. It was our job. We had jobs at the time. I should have requested, I'm not coming back until COVID is gone.
You hear that? I'd still be off the air. Still here.
Now we're all gonna have hantavirus. That's not true. Don't be fear-mongering. Yeah. Horvod, always good to see you.
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Okay, there's a theme in it. Oh, never mind. I can't even. I just quote you guys all talk about it, does it? May maybe what we could do with the Winkler verse, you guys could all go see the movie and then we could do another one of these and talk about it.
Mm-hmm. How much you guys watch For All Mankind? It was so fucked up though. What'd you say? The Apple show for all mankind about space.
Uh didn't watch that. New episode tonight. I had a dream about it last night. I had a dream where people in the show were getting shot, and I could feel the shots.
So I was like laying there in bed like this. Getting shot at. Really? Yeah. Yeah, they brought guns to space.
Well Wait, so hey, when do you think um last question for you, when do you think Micah's back by?
Well, I think we're all assuming week five.
So when he's uh, physically able to come back or or eligible to come back, whatever does the pup list or whatever. They'll be very motivated to get the Bears. I got a bad feeling. I think this is just me being a Bulls fan, dude, and going through the Derek Rose saga. Where, like, that was my whole life at the time, and I had like a calendar, and I was like, all right, two more months, Derek's back.
And I was all excited to be like, oh, yeah, fuck yeah, Derek's back on the court warming up. And I know, like, ACL tears. Usually don't go like that. I just hope it's not something like that, not saying like he never comes back. But like I kept getting my hopes up.
Like, remember every time Rogers would get hurt, and we'd be like, all right, his practice window is open now. He's on the practice field. But then we'd be like, but he can't actually play in a game for four more weeks. I just don't want that to be the entire season. Where it's like week nine and we're like on MicoWatch still.
'Cause if that's the case, I know he's only one guy, but we gave up so much draft capital for him. And he's not just one guy, he's like the entire pass rush. If it's a situation like that, I think it's a washed year. And then it's like, man, how many more? Like, years in the window are there for this team with Jordan Love and LaFleur and Micah, and that, you know what I mean?
So, like, this is a big fucking year. Could you imagine if they did not win the Super Bowl in 2010? I kind of forget that they even did. And we'd be saying we haven't won a Super Bowl in 30 years. feel like that's the one that it was like so enjoyable, but I wish I would have enjoyed it more because I was like, they ain't beaten Philly.
They ain't beating Atlanta. You know, like, I mean, I wanted them to, and as a fan, I like felt it, but. It was almost like You know, like when your team wins the Super Bowl, you want it to be like this remarkable year. You win 13, 14 games. You're just clubbing teams.
You know, like, I don't know if you know this part. In the 90s, I was a big fan of the Bulls. Yeah, you were. But like that made the season special. Like they won fucking 72 games and they were just curb stomping teams.
I mean, it was a fun run, don't get me wrong, but. I don't know. I just thought it I thought it was like the beginning of something. Kinda like the 2016, like, if you're a Cubs fan, not me, of course. Like, you probably thought that was like the start of a dynasty.
Instead, everything just went to shit. Chris Bryant was always hurt. Addison Russell was beating the shit out of his old lady, and then he got sent to Korea. Like everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. Tyler Castro was underage drinking in the lobby of the Pfister.
He wasn't on the team then, but.
Well, that was a different day then. He was on the team the year before. But I just, if Micah's back by, I'm going to say if Micah's back by. Week six. This team is going to at least make the NFC championship game.
All right, there you have it. Thank you. That's our good buddy. Uh Ryan Horbach. Bye for bed.
Yeah. Do you know how like I need to reach out to some of these places. Like who though? Pato and Nicolay sponsor everything under the sun, except me. Like what though?
Like the sports book. How do you like How do you think Bill Like that'd be the perfect person to talk to honestly Oh, he'll never talk to me. He won't even look me in the eye if I was robbing his house. I know, but like, I wonder how he did it, like, to start. Yeah.
Was he a salesman first? No. Because I mean, like, he sold all that shit himself, did he not?
Well, he was on the Packers radio network pre and post. Everyone knew him. Yeah. So then he's like, I got it in my own network. People are like rushing to him.
Fucked up. Yeah. All right man, I'm gonna go to the gym and forget about life for a little bit. I'm going to go probably grocery shopping. Did that last yesterday was terrible.
My wife was off and we did that. That's nice. All right. Thanks for stopping into. Noing limbers.
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