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Welcome into the Winkler versus I'm Bart Winkler. It is Monday, the 13th of April. Carlos Ortiz will be joining us for the National Perspective. Part. I have a chip on my mouth.

Yeah.

Well, that might have been part of a sandwich. I just had a real nice sandwich with some of that Costco cheese. Nice little Costco run. Yesterday. Uh hashtag not an ad.

Carlos will join us in a little bit as we do go live on Mondays around noon Wisconsin time on a hot Wisconsin Wednesday. It's hot out there. I put my kid in sweatpants to school today. And then he showed up and everybody was wearing shorts. And that was an episode we had.

And I failed him. I do. There's so many things I'm worried about. Like, will he remember this? Is this going to be something where I scarred him and then?

I like to lay up at night thinking about all these things. How could I have done that better? Am I being the best dad? And it's going to be something. that I think is trivial.

Like, remember the one day You didn't put me in shorts. Remember the one day?

So maybe that's what it ends up being, but. I popped on a little bit early before Carlos. And I'll throw the link Up as well. If anyone wants to jump in here before Carlos gets on, that'll be around the 30-minute mark. of the show because i got to talk about everything going on wisconsin So this is a national perspective show.

In carrying on the tradition of the show, Carlos and I did on the Infinity Sports Network, at least on Mondays, but then, of course, into the Winklerverse, primarily covers Wisconsin. And there's a lot to get into. It was a hectic Weekend to be sure. Brewers got swept by the Nationals. Regarding my thoughts on the Brewers this weekend.

The Bucs fired Doc Rivers. And Chris McIntosh is out. At Wisconsin.

So both of those stories. are Maybe. Oh yeah, for sure. Rory back to back. That was a big part of the weekend.

As well.

So both of the Wisconsin sports stories. Are very meaty, especially when somebody leaves their post. That's always. Ripe for conversation. But when it rains, it pours.

So I know a lot of people in the sports realm are trying to figure out. How to cover Uh, both of these things at the same time, the Chris McIntosh part. He's took a job. He's the Badgers AD, or was. And a lot of The top people in Madison from the Chancellor to the AD, everybody seems to be on the outs.

So, what does this mean for Luke Fickle? What does this mean for Greg Gard? Chris McIntosh is going to take over. As the Deputy Commissioner for Strategy. With the Big Ten.

It is a newly created role. All right.

So that is what we call failing upwards. in America. I think to me, just the Badgers thoughts I have. Is It's unfortunate. about how the program is viewed.

because there are a lot of wins with the program. The hockey. For instance, if you're a hockey fan for the Badgers. You just saw the women win a national championship. And the men play for one.

They've had a nice hockey history, the Badgers, and the University of Wisconsin. But this is, I mean, this is great. And it's overshadowed. Because the AD is out, and the AD probably wouldn't be out or looking for newly created conference jobs. If the basketball program was having more success, and there's a lot to be discussed.

with Greg Gard. He's a good regular season coach, but can't get it done in the postseason. I've been very critical about other coaches in that position. Namely Mat LaFleur. But then there's the football program, which has been an abject disaster.

But meanwhile, Some of the other programs, volleyball is thriving. Hockey is thriving. And if I were a part of those communities or those teams or on the coaching staff, I'd be like, what do we got to do around here? to get any respect and any credit, but you can't shake the fact. that college athletics It's a football and basketball world.

That is where we're at. Those are the money makers. Everybody else gets their cut of the pie because of these programs specifically.

So they do need to. Yes, first and foremost, they need to be good. They need to be good. That's what brings in the money. That's what brings in the recognition for your program.

Uh even though There are national championships and long postseason runs being had with other. Equally as admirable programs. But in the eyes of the consumer, There is a pecking order. Also, they need to have baseball at the University of Wisconsin. I don't understand why.

And whatever the obstacles are. Fix up. How do you you're the only Big Ten team without baseball? I would love to get into college baseball. Every year, the College World Series is on, and I do not care.

Because why would I? Oh, I'm in a root for LSU. We've got we should have a baseball team in Wisconsin. It's bad enough. You know, there's a lot of things we don't have.

The University of Wisconsin should have. a baseball team and if they don't You know, we've got one in Milwaukee. We've got a D1 baseball program.

So maybe we should be talking more about them. Anyway, that's the mess coming out of Madison. I think depending on where you are in the state today. It's an interesting day. We've got a lot of these sports networks now on your radio.

But this is like if I'm in Milwaukee. You know, Chris McIntosh. All right.

I want to talk more about Doc, but if I'm in Madison, Okay, Doc.

Well, we knew he was going to be fired. I want to talk more about. you know, Chris McIntosh and the Badgers.

So everybody's trying to do everything for everyone. But today is a day where, yeah, it's it's a little split. May I say that the brew crew part of the estate. Might be more interested in Dock Rivers and the Wisco part of the state. May be more interested in Chris McIntosh.

That's what's going to happen with this branding. Are you from Wisconsin? Nor are you from? Whisker. A L O L nine six three two Giannis is still suffering from dock.

Home syndrome. Carlos is joining me at his regular noon time.

So I wanted to dip in a little bit early. To talk about the Wisconsin stuff before we hit a national perspective, which might just be regurgitating. Wisconsin stuff. We will see. Carlos will be coming here.

Um in about 20 minutes. This is again from the YouTube comment. Yannis is still suffering from Dockholm syndrome. He's the only one on the planet surprised by his firing or departure. Whatever the hell happened, I'm just glad he's gone.

Finally.

So, yeah, Doc Rivers is out. I'll play you this video of Giannis after the game. I would also have you guys. When you get a chance. Jimo and Laurie and Eric name.

All doing a good job covering this situation. Eric name. had an article at The Athletic about uh the season from hell. And with all due respect to my brother Eric. When I saw Season from Hell on an athletic byline, I didn't think it was going to be from name.

I've heard Eric Name swear. But I didn't, that's not his writing style.

So for him to say season from hell. I think what it really means is. Um Well, I guess he said f he said f he's transcribed the word fuck. Maybe this isn't not Eric Name. Maybe uh you know what, I'll just text him later.

I'll be like, I was surprised you said hell in an article. But it was the season from hell, but that's the PG version or the G version. This Buck season was the worst fucking shit we've ever had to deal with. as Bucks fans. Would that be a fair statement?

Was this season the worst season? That we've had to deal with. As Bucks fans. First, let me play. Giannis.

This is from Jeff. Saversky Who I'm learning is a reporter in Philly. All right, so he caught up with Giannis. After the game, here's Giannis. He got his opinions about the Dock River firing.

I haven't heard it yet. It's a shock to me, but hey, he's had 25 years as a coach, incredible coach, 15, almost 15 years as a player. He's been in the NBA for 30, 40 years. He's definitely an NBA legend. Uh as you guys know, he's a Hall of Famer.

Uh It's great working with him, but I haven't heard something like that, but I gotta go call him. I gotta go see what that's true. And is it a shame that it hasn't you know, all the talent you guys have, it hasn't worked out, you know, the way you guys had planned? Yeah, it's definitely not the shame. I won't say shame.

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So there's some words from Giannis after the game. The report came out that Doc would be fired. The Bucs made it official in case anybody was on Doc Rivers' side and didn't want the news to be true. Or maybe the Bucs got it out there and wanted to sleep on it. No, he was fired or walked away or retired or whatever you want to call it.

But Doc Rivers is out as the next. Bucks coach.

So, what does that mean for the Bucks? Ben is here. I just saw Ben. I saw you online. I saw you got a sweat in this morning.

Oh, thanks. Yeah.

It's still in the gym shirt. Appreciate it. This is actually my second shirt of the day because I went for a walk and I was sweating. Yeah, I did a lot of watch. It's hot out.

Yeah, it's brutal out there. It's getting hotter. Um I think With the Bucs worst season ever. I think that's a little too far, but maybe the most bleak of an outlook. For a Bucs season.

Like, we've had bad seasons, but then we have a draft pick, right? Then we have a Giannis pick or a Jabari Parker pick or something. We got something to look forward to. We got. Nothing to look forward to right now.

I mean people like Ryan Rollins, he's a talent, but he has nobody to work with. There was, yeah, there's been, there's, so there's been, there's been a lot of seasons that have been bad, and record-wise, there has been worse seasons. I think where this one Throws its hat into the ring. And I and I don't know the answer to the question. I didn't plan on asking, but I think for this season, the thing with me is after Giannis.

was not traded. It's still not like the victory lab that it's been because. It might be. He might sign an extension. And now he doesn't claim to know.

I don't know what's going on there. That's starting to get annoying, but he doesn't know what's up. I think. When he got hurt again. Just the apathy that's sunk in.

there was nowhere to go you couldn't get into the playing tournament Which starts tomorrow. You couldn't get a better draft pick because.

Okay, you want to tank in February? Great. People have been tanking since... Halloween. Their whole season was set up to tank.

So there was really. Pay the sales. And you could watch for Ryan Rollins, I guess, if you. If you're like, ah, you know, is this Usman Zhang gonna be a guy? But there wasn't like a A young Giannis or a young Jabari or somebody that's like, oh, I got to at least see how this goes.

I mean, unless you get really into Cormac Ryan minutes. Or Alex said at a Kumpo minutes. It just was a very there was no reason. To watch After Giannis went down the third time. And they had nothing to play for.

There was very little reason to stay focused. And we're talking about like. We're talking about February, March, April games. I will tell you this. Ben, quick, before I throw it back to you.

I did on Thursday Buy tickets for Friday night just in case. Giannis played. The brothers are going to play. Yeah.

That'd be cool. Would have been cool. It would have been cool. They so those tickets usually go for 150 that I bought. Yeah.

And I bought them for like 35. Oh wow. And then the news came out. That he wasn't gonna play. And so I put him back online.

Just to get something back. Did you get a bag? They sold for $13 a piece. Oh, brutal. I should have just gone at that point.

But why? Why? To get a bangle bobblehead, I mean, it's 2026. I've got all the bangle bobbleheads I need. Nice.

The only reason I watched is because I paid for the FanDuel subscription.

So, there you go. There's a reason for you.

Now we got to figure out where they're going to be on TV next year.

Okay. It'll figure itself out. Probably Bucks TV. Yeah.

Are they going to do a joint thing with the Brewers like they did with FanDuel? They were supposed to with FanDuel, yeah, and that was the big draw. And then there was also the wild hockey, which I'm not a big follower of the wild or anything, but I'd be fine to get into it. Um But once the Brewers dropped the fan duel, I was like. I can't keep paying for something like that.

So Maybe the Bucks will be like We don't know where they're going to be on TV next year because FanDuel's dead. Is it dog? Unless they do one more season, I don't know. Did they pass a law recently to allow online gambling in Wisconsin? I thought I saw something like that.

Yeah, so basically It's gonna happen like it did in Florida. Where Florida, you can online gamble on your phone. Or online. But it's all through the hard rock. Hard Rock's got an app.

And you can bet through their casino.

Okay. Is it pot a watermie then?

So they got to figure out between all the different. Because uh Oneida and Pano like where Is it gonna be like, from what I understand, is it gonna be like restricted if you're in. If you're in Milwaukee, it's... Paddle, but if you're in Wisco. Oh no.

Here in Oneida. I don't know, but basically. If you're like, oh, sweet, my FanDuel account will work here. That's not happening.

Well, I thought that might have been a big reason why the FanDuel thing fell through is because we couldn't really gamble on. Boxer Brewers really through FanDuel.

So what was the point? But Um I I don't know. I don't know why. Yeah, they've been tinkering with a lot of different things and trying to See what works. Yeah.

And the T V network was not. Part of it. Remember, just a couple of years ago, it was Bally Sports. That was terrible. I.

Yeah.

They would, there were so many games that were like black, not blacked out, but like the delay and the stream and like everything was really bad. Yeah.

That was one of the worst subscriptions I think I've ever been a part of. Anything else? I might get some voicemails in here before Carlos. Sure, yeah, real quick. Excited about the.

UW Wisconsin program moving in a new direction from you know, chancellor to president to AD, the whole The whole administration is getting turned over. Hopefully, we see some familiar faces and. Hopefully, they make some great decisions. I'm not a huge fan of the tax incentive. I don't love that our tax dollars are going to one university, even though I am an alumni.

But um If that's what we're doing, we might as well go all in.

So I'm excited. Yeah, thanks for it. Wait, wait, wait.

Okay. Unrelated, I'm trying to get this tailgate going, and I was targeting a Saturday. I might have to go to a weekday. I need to hear from people if a weekday is fine. I'm fine with a weekday personally, as long as I've got at least like a week or two advance notice so I can plan accordingly.

Um Oh, yeah, I would let you. I would, it would be like the summer, and I would tell you by the end of the month. Yeah, I'd love I'd love to go. You know, if you want me to bring a pasta salad or something. Whatever.

Well yeah, I I got to get it rolling.

So more detail, more details on that to come. All right, have a good one, Bart. Thanks. All right, see ya. That's Ben.

Q says Saturday or Wednesday. I haven't looked. I really wanted to go to this Marlins game because it's like a 310 game. In July. We did a Thursday last year.

Remember, it was 250 fucking degrees. Even though the Apple app said it would be. Although the Apple app said snow last week and then it didn't snow. And it did say hot today and it and it was hot.

So. You know, it can't be perfect. It can't be perfect. I'd like to trust my local meteorologist, but. You know, new stations keep firing the ones I like.

So I don't. Really know what's Going on there. Q. What's up? Tim Shea!

Oh, Timmy. Look at this three-pack. Yeah.

I'll let him go for it. You're more busy than Q. What are you doing? I'm working. Oh.

Talking about the tailgate and what can't And what channel the bucks are going to be on?

Well, what should I do about the tailgate? Uh, do it on a Saturday. Spend the money, don't be cheap. It's gonna be like 50 bucks a seat.

Okay, let's do it on a weekday, yeah. Go to a brewer game for 50 bucks? Are you crazy?

Well, is that you did outfield last time? I want them to wear the Winko jerseys too. We're definitely not going on a Friday. I'm not going to watch those shitty jerseys. Oh, they're wearing them on more than just Friday.

So I saw the schedule. Pick close, pick wise. They will not be going. And they will not wear those jerseys. Have you seen them live yet, Bart?

I didn't go this weekend.

Okay, I went yesterday. They looked cool. I liked them. You know what? I was shocked about it.

It was probably 30% of the people were already wearing the new gear. It was insane. I was going to say the brewers forced them to wear it. They're giving a lot of that away. They're giving away TV and radio stations.

They're giving away to Jordan Love. They're giving it away to the Bucks. They're giving it away to the Admirals. I mean, I saw. You know how you sell jerseys?

You win in them when you're playing in them. That's how you sell a fucking jersey. I'm not the biggest Marqu A fan, but I'm from the people that I saw wearing that, it's all walks of life that went out and bought it in less than a week. I've never seen the team store. I was shocked.

Yeah, it was, I don't know, good, good for the team. In this economy, come on. I actually, if I may. I think the hat's worse than the actual. I think the hat.

What? I don't like that W. I don't mind the state outline. Guys, I'm not against. The Brewers, like, of course they're a state team.

I just think Wisco. Just Be like, hey. We're gonna try this whisko thing. Don't be like you all know about the whisko way the fuck we do Says the guy in the hell in the cell hat.

Well, WWE's paying me to promote their shitty product too. I so I just wanted to comment on the doc stuff, but I can dip out if. No, I need it. I need it.

So I still think Doc Rivers was a scapegoat for this season. I personally blame Giannis more for this season's failure than Doc Rivers. I think the roster was constructed for Giannis to play. And I think there were a couple real injuries, but I think some of it was manufactured. And that comes from a place where, like, Giannis still deserves a statue and maybe like the size of the stadium itself.

But it'll be a really interesting offseason. Um I honestly I I hope that A coaching change matters, but I don't think it will. And I'd be really excited if we gave it another run with Giannis. But if I was running the team, I'd cash in our chips and see what we can get and hopefully send them out west and get a bunch of. Bunch of picks and some young guys.

And it would be great if he does go out west, like to the Warriors or something like that.

So we can just cheer for him. But yeah, that's my take. What do you think about this statue idea? The Pfizer Forum as it is.

Okay. Refigure that so it's going to be that's his right foot. Yes. And then you're going to have to tear down Landmark Credit Union Live or whatever that building's called. No one cares.

Take it back down. Build another arena. To be his left foot. And then build Giannis upwards. Yeah, and we'll just make it a data center, and that way it'll pay for itself.

Like, it'll make the city money. The statue of. Like the Guadalupe thing? Yeah, no, I'm here for it. That's a great idea.

Yeah, I need Giannis. The Rebounder. But and then he's he has to be mean-mogging or it's a worthless statue. Yeah, and there has to be a button where if you press it Uh Half the time it says, I want to stay here forever. And then half the time it says, I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow.

Ask my fucking wife. And then it's just a in the background, there's just like a cloud of shams over his shoulder.

So, all right, guys, I gotta, I gotta dip out, but. See ya. Yeah.

Cloud. Cloud of showing homes today. What is Q up to? I don't know that cloud of shams. Iris, you've got on your mind.

What? I said, what else do you have on your mind? Apparently, I can't hear you now.

So great. What? I don't know.

Well, I guess it's my cue to leave now. I mean, here, I'll try and come back in. Mm-hmm.

Okay. I wait with bated breath. For more Tim Shea. Again, Carlos will join us here. Momentarily, unless he's checked some of this out and said, What is this Winkler verse I've actually stepped into?

Um To begin with. Yeah, everyone hears everyone. Tim is just. Tim is just. Tim is well, Tim is here.

All right, now I can hear you. I don't know if you can. Everyone hears you. I know, I don't know why I couldn't, I couldn't hear you. Um Yeah, so this tailgate, I'm in.

Count me in. Whatever day, just tell me the day I'll be there. What do you need me to pray? Uh I need someone to grill. I need someone to bring the food.

I need to bring someone all the snacks. I need someone to bring all the beer. I need someone to bring all the seltzers.

Okay. All right.

And what are the dates? Like, you know. Mm-hmm.

Did you call Emma Baker yet? Oh no, she's the box. No, yeah, she's a robot. I talked to the brewers briefly. Did you also discuss your displeasure for these jerseys, or did we not bring it up this time?

The guy I talk tickets with doesn't need to know how I feel about the jerseys. Did you have any idea who you were when you said your name?

Well, yeah, 'cause I Did the tailgate with them last time. Oh, okay. Yeah.

What are the choices, what are the choices of the opponents? Tim, I gotta look at the same schedule you're gonna look at. I had this day locked in. I was just like, I... Not locked in, but this is the day I want.

I wanted to go in July, but it's, you know. Yeah.

I wanted, if people want to come, I want to try to get them there. I owe a few people tickets, like, uh, I think it was James at the Opening day. I forgot he was at the first one. I told him I'd buy him a ticket. Yeah.

I'm buying Ben a ticket. I think I'll have to buy your fucking ticket. No, you don't have to. Yeah, I will. Maybe I'll give away some tickets.

I don't know.

It's got to be also like 105 degrees, too.

Well, that's what I'm gonna check. I'm gonna check the farmer's almanac. To see when it's supposed to be the warmest day. There you go. Yeah.

It's hot today. Have you been outside? I have. It's nice. I like it.

No, it's hot. It's hotter today than it was any day I went to San Diego. Good. It was like 65 and we tried to swim outside. The one pool was heated, but the one with the big slide at the hotel was not.

All right, I got to get back to work. I just wanted to come in and say hello. Good, good conversation. It was a good idea. Yeah, just disappointed.

Disappointed with the brewers right now, but. Yeah, we're at the same place we were last year at this time. I don't know.

Pat Murphy made it sound like he's going to be out for more than two months.

So. My kid's favorite brewer is Churio, and then he got hurt.

So now his new favorite brewer is Yelich, and now he got hurt. Churio will be back soon, probably within the next week or so.

So. All right.

See you later, Muffin. Take it easy, Pookie. Jesus Christ. I can get Austin in. Before we go to KO, what's up, Austin?

Hey, Bart. Long time, man. I got off today and tomorrow.

So I saw you were doing this. I was just listening to your um Yeah. Interview thing with Tyler Dunn. Yeah, Tyler's great. Yeah, yeah.

I'm really liking that. Liking that, I was going to read his piece after, but then I saw you went live, so I was like, Oh, I got a chance to actually hop on one of these sons of bitches.

So what's up with you, brother man? Brother Man! Nothing. Um. I I'm not So Tim just ended there with his, you know, a little disappointed in the Brewers.

What did they they started what eight and three and then you know kind of Shit, the bat against they lost five in a row, right? Yeah, yeah, so there's okay. I I I'm pretty much off the socials, but I do check Twitter every once in a while just to like kind of see what's going on when I can't catch everything. But it seems like everyone's, you know, losing their shit about the brewers. And then And then it's like July, and then it's like, yeah, see, none of that fucking mattered until.

You know, now.

So everyone's just losing their shit over things, and I don't know. They're fine. They're just fine. Did you? Alex just gave me a note here.

Did you see the stand? Have you looked at the standings? No, I just have the schedule up. Look at the standings. Here's the East.

American League East. Three teams are eight and seven, two are six and nine. American League Central, 9797, 79796 and 10. The A's are eight and seven, Rangers eight and seven. You have eight and eight, seven and nine, six and ten.

In the National League. Everybody in baseball is either Between 10 and 6, or 6 and 10. Except for the Dodgers are 11 and 4. That's incredible. Yeah.

See, okay, right.

So it's fine. They're going to, first of all, you're going to have stretches like this, and it's the fucking start of the season. It's going to be. they're going to be it 89 to 95 win team again, somehow. I don't know how they do it.

And at this point, I'm done questioning it. Do you want to say hi to Carlos in real life? Fuck yeah. Yeah, I'll hop off. But yeah, I'd like to say hi.

No, you can say hi. All right.

Carlos Ortiz, do I have you? Yeah, and I'm finally on time. This never happens. This is Austin who would call our show all the time. I knew who you were the second I saw your name because I'm like, Bart doesn't have any friends named Austin other than you.

So I assumed that it was going to be you the whole time. Yeah, this is where I would, you know, sometimes drink too many beers and call into the show. Oh, you drink and call? No, no. During our show.

But I wasn't as bad as fucking Barry. Oh, that's very Yeah. All right.

Does he call in Carlos ever now? Does anybody know? He does not call in. We did get a Mr. Positive sighting yesterday.

Luckily, I think he understands that his bid has run its course. Not on my show. On our show, it's very abbreviated. He does the go for your dreams at the start of the call. Because you know he's going to get cut off with other people because he knows he's getting yanked.

That's some grade A produced by this guy. That's classic. Oh, that's good. All right, guys. I'm going to let you guys let everybody listen to the.

Wade Cliverse with Carlos with a K. Everyone misses your show, so. I'm gonna hop off and I'll just be watching. Do they? Yeah.

Yeah, I think they did for a week and now Ah, dude, I fucking hate that you guys aren't on from nine to One in the morning over here all the time.

Some other network sensors and pick us up. Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, guys. Well, I'll be listening. All right, see ya. Austin, take care, Austin. Liberty Mutual customizes your car and home insurance, and now we're customizing this rush hour ad to keep you calm, which could help your driving.

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On time. I had to get 30 minutes in locally. You know what? And that's, you know, it's borderline national. I mean, I'm interested to see what the Bucs are going to be doing.

They're going to be, yeah, I think the Giannis in a short period of time. Firing dock, obviously, is a Top story. I know there's plenty of people that hate Doc. I should have Ryder back on. Nobody hates Doc more than him.

Oh, I will cede my time to the representative from California, should he wish to make an appearance at this point. Um But is he getting fired? Because I saw reports that he might be moving to an advisory role with the Bucks. Like, you know, how true is that? Um I don't I don't know.

I don't think it's I don't So I think what happened here. Was The box Got Jimmy Haslummed. Yeah.

They hired Doc Rivers. I don't think they do that if Jimmy Haslam probably is pushed behind the scenes for it. Yeah.

is not an owner and this is a I know this is speculative. Because we don't really know a lot. John Horse has like disappeared. Wes Eden's talked once. To an ESPN article with Haslam somehow.

I don't know.

It was that Ramona Shelburne. had that. I don't know why they agreed to that. But if I look at Jimmy Haslam with the Browns. I mean, he went and got Deshaun Watson because he's a name.

Yeah.

And Doc Rivers is a name. He is a name. Check his resume. Google them.

So I think that's what happened.

Now An advisory role might be They feel bad. Oh man, I love it. Oh, they're going to pay him.

So they're like, all right, well, we're not going to pay you to do nothing.

So maybe go scout some kid or, you know. But the advisory role is what he had in the first place, which he then stole the job from Adrian Griffin. Mm-hmm.

So I don't know. Oh, well maybe you uh you guys can hire Billy Donovan from the uh from the Bulls. Because I'm ready to rip that band-aid off. Nobody was more upset that Mike Malone became the coach of the Tar Hills more than me, because that means Billy Donovan was going to stay. Yeah, well so what's going on with the Bulls?

Nobody really knows. I mean, they did the right thing in terms of jettisoning their front office to the sun. Uh Carnasovas, I always butcher his name, but it's not worth knowing anymore because he's gone. With team president, he had been doing the job after Paxton got fired there and. Just the Garpax regime and now this one has just been an epic failure.

You know, when you finally miss the playing spot, and that's been your habitual, you know, a season ending is to be in the 10th spot and lose to Miami in a first round three out of the last four years. That is a new low for this Bulls franchise that loves to be in purgatory. And I think even Jerry Reinsdorf couldn't ignore the fact that this season was going to spiral out of control and go nowhere, which is funny because back when we had a national show and the Bulls opened up the season 5-0, I told you this was coming. I told you the eventual skid was going to happen where they were going to play 500 ball and then just. Plummet in the standings.

I didn't see them missing the playoffs. I didn't think they were going to be that bad. But I'm glad because I I hated being in purgatory known as the play in. Um but yeah, now normally I always always joke that they were thirty seven and Or 39 and 43, they were, and that's usually what their record is.

So, you know, and this year they were 31 and 51. Yeah, 31 wins is absurd for this team. You know, that again, it's about as low as it's going to get, but you know, so now they're going to look for a new general manager, new presidents, and rightfully so, because you know, again, it's been an abject failure. Zach Levine didn't work here, they traded away Jimmy Butler, you know, DeMar DeRosan didn't work here. I mean, nothing seems to work, they can't draft well enough.

To build a young core. You thought you might have had something in Kobe White, but then he was inconsistent and you traded him away.

So now you have. You know, maybe Boozelis that you drafted, but your latest draft pick with the kid from France, Assange. You know, you never see him play. He was injured back in December. And uh, you gave Josh Giddy a bunch of money, so, like, do you even have a cord to build around there?

You know, so I I'm hoping whoever comes in can kind of reevaluate what they have and talents and. If they feel like Billy Donovan's the coach. fine, whatever, you know, he is a proven. You know, quality NBA coach, but I think you know what his ceiling is. And his ceiling is, you know, getting to the playoffs and, you know, have an early exit.

I think Billy Donovan and the Bulls would both be suited if they were to kind of move on from each other in a respectful manner. I don't think the Bulls should fire Billy Donovan. But I understand if a new regime wants to come in and get their own guy.

So, like, I'm kind of good either way. Just rip the band-aid off at this point. I think Billy should want to coach somewhere else. I really do. I think if the Knicks job becomes open.

If Mike Brown gets fired, I think that'd be a good fit for Louianovich. Do you want to watch the train? Does he want to take the train and come up here? I think that'd be well for you guys too. I mean, again, he's an adult in the room, you know, like Billy Donovan, you know, Kenny Atkinson, guys like J.B.

Bickerstaff, like these are all guys that, you know, they're coaches. You know, these aren't. These aren't sexy brand names, but they come in and they do a good job. And I think with the Bucs and the Bulls both, you know, going to be looking for coaches, they just need an adult in the room. In terms of the Bucs case, you're just going to need someone that's either going to be able to play ball with Giannis or decide that, hey, you know what?

We're done with Giannis and let's move on here. You know, we can't hold up two spots for Thanasis and Alex.

So I don't know. I think this is a. Very fascinating situation for the Bucs. And I'm a little offended you guys did not have me on earlier for that because I would have hung around for the local half an hour.

Well, you should have said something. No, I didn't care enough. I actually just woke up from a nap about 20 minutes ago. Do you want to join me? I might do some WrestleMania post games.

Ooh. Depends on my schedule. I am leaving for Chicago Friday morning, as discussed. Oh, yeah. You're going to the game Friday?

I'm going Friday and Saturday. Friday is Jackie Robinson Day at Wrigley Field.

So they'll be giving away some number 42 jerseys. I'll be dragging the wife there early to go. And pick mine up. I think they only have size medium and XL and double XL for you fat fucks.

So you guys will be in plenty of luck. My wife will grab the medium. I'll probably sell it on eBay. But in any case, yeah, we'll be there Friday. Do a little sightseeing, take her around.

Saturday, we're going back to Wrigley for Ron Santo Bobblehead Night.

So that'll be fun. Or day, rally. I'd like to show you something. I will talk until you do. And then hopefully Saturday.

You know, maybe I'll take her to Navy Pier. Maybe Bart comes down, get into some shenanigans, but uh. It'll be a very short trip because back Sunday morning. just like that and continue my uh my workout ascension because All I do is work out. And I think I see Bart in the shadow, so I could stop talking now.

Here's the giveaway I got from the Padres. Look at this bag. That's pretty cool. Yeah.

It's like, what is that? That's a cross body fanny pack or something? Yeah.

And my wife was like. Do we really need three of them? I'm like. They're giving them away. Yeah, I mean, yeah, take it.

You know, I mean, it's not your team. It doesn't matter. You know, you can beat it up. But the logo is gonna fade away anyway. Are you supposed to wear these?

Uh, not like that. I have a friend who wears one all the time. It's like, really? I have um like a crossbody slash fanny pack. Um Thing somewhere.

I actually use it on vacation.

So, because I don't like keeping my keys, my wallet, or anything in my pockets. I'm just paranoid of getting pickpocketed.

So when I went to Italy, Greece, that shit would sit right in the front of my chest. And I'm like, I dare you to come rob me because you did like this looking at me. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, good enough. I think loosen the strap a little bit 'cause it looks like it's choking your uh neck, but um That's good enough for me.

I don't wear it on my waist like a pods. No, God. That's something your grandfather would do: wear it on the waist, and then put the glob of sunblock on your nose. Only your nose. Maybe You know, I I'm not going to go to the Cubs game again.

that we did last year, but I'll just come hang out directly after. I could come down and say hi before and get home by three to pick up my kid. Oh, listen, whatever floats your boat, we're going to work. My wife and I are planning on getting there early both days.

So maybe we'll go get a beer at uh. What's the bar? Sluggers? Yeah, sluggers. I was going to call it scored, but that's wrong because that's the radio station that doesn't like us.

So should I drive down to Chicago? To have one beer at Sluggers and then come home.

Well, I mean if you're gonna drive then Maybe just have two. Should I take the train? Take the train and have a couple. Uber to sluggers have two drinks. Uber back on the train.

Then Uber to my house and then walk to pick up my kid. It's not like a plan to me, but you're the one that's got to commit, so. It's up to you. Oh, but I could carry a laptop around. Yeah, I did the laptop around.

Miller Park. I should take a laptop around Wrigley Field. I'd probably be. I'd probably be I would be What'd you say? I said you'd get stopped more than me and I'm from there.

Well, I would get stopped a lot if I was walking around Wrigley with a laptop. That thing would be taken from me in 15 minutes. Oh, no, no. It's not old Kamiski Park in the south side. I don't know about that.

Yeah, civilized people up here. Why didn't they build Kamiski so you could see the downtown? Why did they point it the other way? Because it's a team owned by Jerry Reinsdorf, who's an absolute idiot.

So there's that. No, I don't know. It is weird with the Bulls because they've been bad. For a long time. And if you're shredded his knee in the Eastern Conference finals, that's how bad they've been.

And I'm really thinking a lot more about how. I'm 41. I'm almost there in July. I'm almost 42. Yeah, I'm almost almost in my Gary Ellerson year.

He, I worked with him. Yeah, I know the name. He played for the Packers. I know the name. You are number forty two.

That's why I called it that.

So I need to remember. That like I'm old. And so there's, cause there's a lot of people that can hide. Yeah.

Even if I talk about the 2008 Brewers. Because that was the first Brewer team that made the playoffs in my lifetime. Because they went to the World Series in 82, didn't make the playoffs again until 80 or 2008. Yeah.

And I was born in 84. I still need to remember like. Like the 96 Packers to me. Are some people's 2021 bucks. Yeah.

Their first real championship that they got to experience. And, like, at least with the Bulls, you're like, oh, yeah, well, Jordan, they had six years. If you're a Bulls fan under 30, you don't remember it. Yeah.

You maybe learned about Jordan when he was on the Wizards, and you're like, oh, yeah, this guy played for the Bulls, dad. That's weird. Yeah.

So I've actually met one other Chicago Bulls fan in New York, and it's Paul Rosenberg, who works at WFAN. And I'm 10 years his senior. And I'm like. How the hell are you a Bulls fan? Like, you can't possibly remember the last dance or any of the three Pete's, because even for the first set of three Pete's in 91 and 93.

I was in like in third, fourth, and fifth grade.

So, like, I barely remembered those Luke Longley years or the Lambie, the, you know, the battles with the Pistons, whatnot. Like, I barely remember that. The second three Pete stuck with me because that's when I was like sixth, seven, eighth, grade, whatever. Oh, I'm like, so I'm like, how do you remember that? He's like.

He's like, I remember highlights of Jordan. And he's like, and I sort of remembered the 98 season. And I just became a Bulls fan. And I'm like, That's insane.

So like that. Era of Bulls championship basketball, that's ancient history to some people. You might as well have lumped that in with the creation of the pyramids. People don't know that the Bulls will at one point were good.

Some people never have seen Jordan highlights, let alone watch, let him play.

So. Yeah, man, it's better if the NBA, for the NBA, if the Bulls are good, you know, or these bid-market teams are good, because that's what Adam Silver, you know. Completely wants in his wish list, but instead, you're going to get like the Spurs and Thunder in the Western Conference finals. You'll get Detroit and Well, but Boston's still a big city in the in the east. Maybe the Knicks, but.

He doesn't have any hope with the big markets other than Boston. You know, I just, I think the problem as a Bucs fan. And this is what happened with like the bulls. You know, at least with the Patriots, you got. You had your dynasty, and now you got a coach that.

you know, should be able to get your team back on track and also is in love with a menace. Although I don't think that's love. Oh, Vrabel and Rossini? Nah, that's straight up loss, man. Rossini's in my top five.

I don't care.

Now I know she's easy pickings. All I got to do is be in the business of getting some information that she needs. How do you play this if you're a Mr. Rossini? Oh, no, no, no, you take her to the cleaners, brother.

It's over. I mean, you know what? And how high? And then the lawyer's going to be like, ah, geez, years of abuse and physical and mental. Do you have any proof?

Whose podcast do you want to see? She shits on me and all of them. Yeah, let me show you the clips from GetUp or clips from the Lebertard show or Scoop City or anything else that has a microphone. Like, oh, was it? She was on at either Sports Hub or WEI or in Boston, shitting on them there.

She shits on them on a national and local level. Like, how much abuse do you need to take? He has to have a corner chair. I don't want to get into their personal lives, but since it's out there, he strikes me as a corner chair guy if they're not divorced. Uh by the end of this month.

I'm a corner chair guy to myself. Tips. That's gross. All right, that's the end of this stream, everybody. That's the National Perspective.

We'll see you next week. I'm going to do something here that I. Would not do on the show. I gotta show you this this thing from Trump. All right, so first of all, if you're uncomfortable with this, let me know.

No, no, go ahead. I mean, what are they going to do? Fucking fire us? I don't have a I already don't have a job. Although I do have an interview with the Mets tomorrow, so that'll be fun.

For what? Oh, it's some bullshit part-time thing, events crew.

So basically, I'd just be a worker, be setting up chairs and shit like that. But. I'm bored and I don't have any money.

So I'm going to take something with my master's degree. That's completely useless.

Now, I'm not talking about anything from a political standpoint. I'm talking. Oh, no, we don't do that here. I'm talking about this from an entertainer standpoint. Because did you see the picture Trump put where he is Jesus?

No, but I can just Google it right now, and I'm sure it's. Here's the picture. Here it is. Oh, God. See?

I don't even blame him. I blame his sycophants.

Now, I'm doing this because I want you to hear his excuse.

Okay. Ready? I'm listening.

Okay. surprise maybe two posts that picture of yourself.

Well, it wasn't depicted. It was me. I did post it, and I thought it was me as a doctor. and had to do with the Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there, which we support. And uh Only the fake news could come up with that one.

So I had... I just heard about it. And I said, how did they come up with that? It's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better, and I do make people better. I make people.

uh a lot better as I don't care which way you lean, impeach him now. Impeach him now because if that was sleepy Joe Biden, all of you would be in a goddamn tizzy talking about he's unfit to serve. These old men, I don't care if they're red or blue. They're unfit to serve. Get him out.

How do you think that's a doctor photo? I'm going to I this is the day for me. This is the day that I'm finally going to embrace. What it is he does. First of all, look at, I don't know the beginning of this video.

He's next to someone wearing a DoorDash grandma t-shirt. Like they're burying the lead. The first question should be: Mr. President, who the fuck is that? I was like, Bart, did you?

Did you say, did you trash executives for not knowing how radio works in your goodbye? No, I'm just hearing about that. Look, that's not what I did. I was talking about how much I love radio. Only the fake news could come up with me trying to fight against the suits.

That's not what I said. Bart, did you shit on the Brewers' jerseys and parts of the state of Wisconsin all weekend? No, no, no. I chair only you fake news people. Could come up with that.

No, I think it's all. If anything, I thought that they were saying that Wisconsin is more important than Milwaukee, but we're all together as one. I just, I don't think there should be anything separate about it. Yeah, Bart, were you holding hands with Mike Rabel? I'm sorry, that picture was taken completely out of context.

It did not show the six other people that were on vacation with us.

So certainly you need to get your sources all right. Only to figure out. I wasn't what you saw was we had interlocked fingers, and you thought maybe. We were fucking, but no, I just had my fingers. We were comparing our finger sizes.

We did go back to his hotel room and bang. But the picture you saw that, yeah. Yeah.

So anyway, I totally believe you would you would slut yourself out for for my grable. I saw him at an airport once in Cleveland. Yeah, you almost gave it to him right there. And I thought Who is this guy? I know who this guy is.

I know who it is. Then I got on the plane with my other buddy. I said, who the fuck was that? Do we know him? Was that a teacher that we had?

Yeah, I'm more of a Robert Solomon myself. How's that? Oh, I thought it. Yeah, okay, yeah. You know, you get confused.

You don't know. Yeah.

Yeah, very confused. I will say one part that sucks when you ever have baby Carlos'. When you go pick them up. from school. Everyone should be wearing name tags as parents for a good month.

Yeah.

I'm sorry, we call it a squela in my household. Is that what does that mean? It a squela means score. Oh. Con, you're so white, Jesus.

I don't know.

I know uh what Spanish do I know? Eh, mamme me mama ma puga ta ta ti ta ta mama di ta. Those are actual words. Big, big, big popular song. Yeah, that means I should have taken more photos, is the name of the song.

Well, it plays at the Winkler house like every 15 fucking minutes between my wife and my kid. Good taste. Yeah, he did also ask me what happened to the guy in wrestling that came out to Fiend. He asked me that this morning, Travis Scott. Tell him R.

Emmanuel was no longer friends with him. He's like, ah, I'm moving on to some other rich person. He is so into wrestling and he's so excited for WrestleMania. That makes one of us, man. To be a kid again, because this WrestleMania, and I talk about this with a lot of people, this WrestleMania season has no fucking life whatsoever.

There is zero buzz for this. I mean, I'm telling you, you have to watch it with a six-year-old because it's again, I'll get on my wife and, like, literally and figuratively, get on her, and we'll make that happen to get a kid because I'm not into this shit. They're force-feeding. This It's not even Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton in a match. They're force-feeding jelly roll versus.

Pat McAfee. The match. My kid to him. Jellyroll exists in the same wrestling universe as a Randy Orton. Which is insane.

Because if you're if you're a kid, like with one year of wrestling history in your brain. Jelly Rolls wrestled As many matches as like Roman Reigns this year. Do we still need to call him Jellyroll, by the way? I mean, the guy dropped like a million pounds. We just call them.

I don't know what what's what's the uh what's the opposite of a role? We call him jelly flat. Jam flat? You know, like I don't I don't know what to call them. It's not jelly roll.

It's fun trying to Watch you Figure out the punchline to a joke in real time. Because I don't think of anything, nothing scripted. This isn't the Jim Rome show where even your fucking drops are calculated. Like I. I'm just a dog chasing cars, man.

I don't know what to do if I would catch one. He fledged a reference. Yeah.

So I don't know. Did you see? I saw this clip. Cody Rhodes was on. Shane Gillis's pod.

And then Steve Hillis is like, I think the 15 minutes are up. No, they were they were asking him about the the match and he's and Cody's like I'm just going to do the thing where I don't really know Pat that well. Um But he goes. Pat McAfee With his little crew. He needs somebody in that crew to tell Pat no.

Yeah.

Like when Pat's like, hey, I'm gonna insert myself to the main event of WrestleMania. Yeah, well, what do you want it to be? The guy in the cowboy hat or the black guy in the corner? Like, just Because they all say no. They're all yes men.

All they do is just clap and cheer on his stupid show. And an ESPN picked it up for some, you know, for some ungodly reason. Not everything needs to be elevated. I don't need to see Busting with the boys on Fox. I don't need to see Barstow on Fox.

You know, like... If it has its own little thing cooking in the side, it doesn't need to be mainstream. I don't need Pat McAfee in my WrestleMania main event. What the fuck are we doing? I do love that CM Punk called the Magafe the other day, though.

Like, that was great. I uh I was on channel 12 last night here. Uh you're gonna need to give me more detail. I don't know what channel twelve is. That's the local ABC News.

Oh really? It's seven over here. I did a hit off the top about Doc, but I think my answers went on too long. And I've done TV, so but I had so much to say. I don't know, I've just felt bad about it.

Stalis Tom says, Roussini is attractive, and I enjoy talking shit about her husband. And she is very attractive. I, uh, for the longest time. For some reason, Rachel Nichols was in my top one. Cause I have a rotating top five of like, You know, media reporters and chicks that I would bang, you know, specifically in sports.

I have different categories. But Rachel Nichols was one for a long time. And then Diana Rossini came along, and I'm like, well, she just threw Rachel Nichols out of the top five, not even. Go down to two, three. She just shoved them right off because I only got room for one redhead.

Redheads are crazy.

So I was like, Rossini taking that top spot. I find her very attractive. Um and I actually kind of slightly dig her now more because she has no morals.

So it's right in my alley. I don't see gender. I only Jesus Christ. I have a cough button now. Is that what you were doing?

No, I was coughing. No, literally. I was literally coughing, not trying to make it. I actually legitimately coughed. I thought you were making a different gesture.

No, no. Oh, God, please. I would love her to choke. But on. You get the idea, not food.

I got some voicemails. Would you like to hear them? Sure. Let's hear Davis. Yeah, yeah, I got one for Davis.

I got three voicemails. Voicemails brought to you by, as is the National Perspective, Carl's Place. Yeah, all your golf simulator needs. I would be using it today. It's too hot outside.

Everyone's like, oh, it's a great day to golf. It's too hot. Yeah, what is it? Alma is 80 degrees over there? Might as well be.

It's like 69. Ours is ooh, what a great number. Uh, it is uh seventy two degrees over here. Uh it'll be seventy slash eighty all week. It's warmer here.

No, it's like 73. It's warmer here than it was any day I was in San Diego. No. And I sent my kid to school in pants. And not shorts, and then everyone else at Supervision.

It was tough. We had to talk about it for a little bit. I feel bad. I feel bad. I'm going to pick him up.

He's going to play at the park for about a good hour and a half.

So I've had to look forward to it. If anybody gives a shit, Jeremy Pena, shortstop for the Astros, will be on the 10-day IL. Yeah, he's on my team. Is he really? Yeah, he's actually one of my keepers.

So I'm about to keep his ass on the bench. As I look for a new shortstop. But go ahead, continue. and could do a show and find a player at the same time. I have to take a survivor team.

Last week I took the A's. Yeah, that worked out well for you. As the only person in 800 people that take the A's because I thought. They're playing in New York all week. Everyone's going to be so overconfident.

Now, the Mets, Yankees lost five in a row, Brewers lost five in a row. Of course, that's not the story. It's only Mets and Yankees because they're the only teams that exist. Did you see when I was showing Austin?

So did you see when I was showing Austin the MLB standings right now? No, I came on just as you were wrapping that up.

So I did not see. I know the Dodgers are the first team to get to 10 wins, but they lost to the Rangers yesterday, which I was very happy about. Dodgers are 11 and 4. Everyone else is in between 10 and 6 or 6 and 10. Everyone.

Nuts.

Well, I mean, that's the microcosm of the Dodgers and everybody else. The Dodgers, everyone. They literally have all-stars in every position, and then the other teams are trying to figure it out.

So. I'm not surprised. All right, let me get these voicemails in here. Sure. Less talking I need you to do.

That's a plus. And you can fix your IL spot. Yeah, I'm trying to see who I want to pick up. I might pick up Jose Fernandez from the Diamond Packs. He is shortstop eligible.

All right, this is from Trebb. And this came in, all these came in. In the last 24 hours. This came in Sunday around 2. This is Treb again.

You can leave your voicemail on the CarlsPlays voicemail line: 402-915-BART. That's 402-915-2278. And if you're on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream, you'll notice I changed the font bubble to green. Yeah.

From blue. That's what I did. What'd you do today, honey?

Well, I did a podcast with Carlos and I changed the font bubble to green. Yeah, when my wife asked me what I did today, I'm like, oh, you know, I did a stream with Barton. She's like, oh, geez, you're still doing that? She asked me that last week and I'm like. It's not like I'm working.

Well, you're just gonna do it three times and then you could? No, no, no, she thought it was gonna be five. Yeah.

Here's Treb. Hey Bart, this is Treb Nessel. I've left a couple of messages that weren't able to be deciphered, but hopefully you can hear this one. I just listened to your podcast about that. The um the orange jersey.

And the cool. Um Okay. A cool movie coming out. That that was really nice and it was really good. He's talking about an interview I did with the filmmakers of a film called Kings of Koob.

Yeah, I saw a clip of that. Good for you. Thank you. Check out the clip on my YouTube channel. I'll buy one just because nobody else will have one.

And by the end of the year, Even though probably pretty cheap. I really would like to go in front of Um Sleep for them, but I don't think they're probably selling them. And living up in the Northland, we home in twin cities. I can't pick one up here at all.

So right i will be getting one of those and i'd like to talk to you Uh what you pop your uh lives and talk about what growing up. In northern Wisconsin, it was like to try to be a fan, Milwaukee and a Bucks fan. back when i was growing up you know that was Horse drawn wagon is title. Hey clear, thanks.

Well I do want to talk to you about that trap. It seemed like someone's like, hey, you're on the Bart Winkler show. Talk. There was no velvet robe at that flo uh phone screen and yeah. If you had a pulse, you were getting on.

I mean, grant, you know. Gain case in point. Barry from Boston every night. All right, well let's try another one. Uh Steve I got a voicemail from Steve.

Okay. Hey, Bart. This is Steve, first time, medium time. I said I'd leave a voicemail.

So just following through, I thought your emotional rant on the Brewers Whisko jerseys was poignant.

Some might call it silly and childish, but this stuff matters, right? When our favorite teams are good, we have memories of what they were wearing. When our favorite teams are bad, we also have memories of what they were wearing, right? When I picture the Bucs winning in 21, I have vivid images in my mind of Giannis and BJ Tucker in those black uniforms with the multicolored stripe across the front. They take it or leave it, but that's what flashes inside my head.

Something that always makes me laugh is the unsanctioned Jersey leak before the official drop. 'Cause it's all about first impressions, right? And the power of the first impression. What's ubiquitous about all those Jersey leaks?

Well, they're always at a horrible angle and the overall color is off just enough. make everybody gag when they see it. I always imagine it's this nefarious shady character who decides to leak a JPEG of the jersey online.

somebody wearing a trench coat or a large brimmed hat that covers their eyes, someone who probably hates the marketing teams.

Well, don't want to make this message so stupidly long, so just want to say thanks for the heartfelt opinions. I think they speak for all the people. when we say, might win an Oscar in the podcast category someday. Have a great day. And very well might because they're giving it to Amy Poehler.

So there's. It it's not a hard bar to clear. I uh did you see the Brewers' jerseys? The Wisco 3.

Well, I made it whisko in three. Ah. No, I did. Because they lost all three games. I did.

I did see. I did see the jerseys and they are awful. They are awful. Again, as someone who is an Illinois native. I've never heard anybody refer to Wisconsin as Wisco.

So I'm fighting that battle with you. I don't care too much, so I won't be in the front ranks. but I will be somewhere on the roster. I'm good with alternate jerseys. Just not that.

Well, there are too many. There are too many.

Well, and they wear them too much. Fanatics is just trying to bleed as much money out of consumers as possible. It's not just a brewer's thing either. I mean, the alternate jerseys for a lot of teams. They're terrible.

I remember the City Connect jerseys for the Cubs. They said Wrigleyville. On the front of it. I like that better than I like. Yeah, but it's literally just one small neighborhood that, you know, obviously surrounds the park.

It's a very small neighborhood. I don't think it's a good, great representation of a Cubs fan, dude. I lived in the West, I lived in Humble Park, completely different than Wrigleyville, but. Yeah, I didn't get into it. I think I didn't get into that jersey.

There's nothing wrong with a good classic clean jersey. Leave them alone. I mean, just. Everybody's needs to Make money. Do more hats, you know, sell socks or some shit.

I mean. Wisco jerseys suck. The Wrigleyville jerseys weren't great. All these alternate jerseys blow. We need to.

I think fanatics need to get hit with the Rockefeller laws. It's becoming too much of a monopoly. They have jerseys all over the place. What does Michael Rubin have on Congress?

Okay. I don't know.

Again, now that I like, I hate to always preface this. But I do see a lot of things now through the eyes of my kid. And He'll turn on these games. And there's nights where, because he knows every NBA logo. Like, I do party tricks with him.

Other dads will ask him, Hey. What's the Houston NBA team? Oh, the Rockets. Who's on the team? Give me one player, Kevin Durant.

But then when he watches, he'll turn on like the game of all the, you know. Streams. And He's asking me like, who's this team? Who's this team? Who's this team?

It's not like a historical logo. Like, oh, this is the old Rockets logo. They changed it. Oh no, this is just some other fucking thing they wear. This is their Wednesday uniform.

I'm trying to, I think he's figured it out now. To try to get him to understand. I really need to lay this out more so people know where I'm coming from, and you too. When I say my kid wants to see the scores. In standings?

He wants to see them like 15 times a day. He's taking my phone from me. Yeah, he's more into sports than I am. Even if games aren't done. And I bet you I could go tell him right now.

I could say, not only, hey, what's the NBA team in Houston? He would know their record. And where in the playoffs are supposed to be. That's actually pretty impressive. Slash, also scary.

So he's smart and this is information that he cares about and he It clicks in his brain, but I've been trying to explain this playing tournament to him for weeks. About how Some teams can win and get in right away. Others win and they have to Take on a team that lost. And now because there's some conflict. The schedule got changed.

Did you see that? This isn't that big of a deal, but. No, I didn't. All I know is that we're supposed to be playing games tomorrow. Tomorrow, I think, is supposed to be...

The seventh and eighth. play and then the winner's in. But in the East, they're doing ninth and tenth. Because there was a conflict with the Sixers and the Flyers. Mm.

So then Tomorrow, Tuesday, is ninth versus 10th in the East. Heat Hornets, losers out, winner plays. the loser of seven eight and then Sun's Blazers is tomorrow night seven eight And then it's flopped the other way.

So Magic Sixers on Wednesday. Warriors Clippers on Wednesday night. Warriors They're talking minutes restrictions for their guys. This is, I mean, this is the same thing as when the Mavs were like, oh, we're going to be playing tournament? Ah, we'll miss.

It's like they're in it. They don't even want to be in it. Yeah, the Warriors will get the number one pick now. I don't know, at least every team in it. Except Hurry and AJ DeMonso.

Every team in it has a winning record except for the Warriors.

So that's I mean that's fine, I guess. But then you don't get the real playoffs until Saturday. I don't like that part of it. Yeah.

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I mean, uh the regular season uh wraps up this week. Thursday. Yeah, uh so They get right into it. There's no playing garbage with hockey. Because I'm all into that.

I recognize this jersey. A little savant. Didn't they take last? The Rangers, yeah, they finished last in Metro. They're awful.

I mean, how Chris Druid got a fucking extension before this season is beyond me. Everyone knows he's trash as an executive except James Dolan, which is important because that's his boss. I have a voicemail from David. I know you do. And if he doesn't mention the Masters at least three times, it's not really a David Weiss mail.

It appears the whole thing is about the masters.

Okay, that's what I thought. All right.

Well, I'll peace out. It's cool. What's going on? This is David from Buffalo. I got to jump in here and talk about the Masters.

It was an exciting tournament. Bryson was a huge disappointment. Obviously, his short game is a mess. Let's get to a few other topics.

So, Rory, you know, I thought his short game won him the tournament. He was all over the place with his driver. Do you agree? Oh yeah, the short game. Did you see the end?

CBS didn't even get his shot to win. Yeah, they've fallen off with their coverage. I mean, there was a bunch of problems with their pregames or some shit like that. Like, people were pissed off that. It was a bunch of celebrities hawking crap as opposed to like the actual golf analysts talking about.

The preview of the Masters, which I don't care either way, but apparently they've been dropping actually, wasn't CBS or might have been Netflix? It was something, but people were upset about how The Masters was being.

Well, there was a picture of McAfee, Burt Kreischer, and Jason Kelsey. Diving into the pond, which was AI, did not happen. Um But Jason Kelsey was there. And Burt Kreischer did throw out the first pitch at a Reds game shirtless. Yeah, he was also.

A part of, was it Sunday Night Baseball? But he did something where he was. He was a part of the Netflix opener. Yeah, okay, yes, yes. And wasn't he in the kayak in the bay with the Yankees and the Giants?

So. Uh How is this guy famous? I just see him like doing all things that I want to do, and I don't know him.

Well, that's the thing.

So there I think. There's a lot here.

Okay. David, I'll get back to you in a sec. There's a lot going on. With these companies that think we need a celebrity or something. But this pool of celebrities.

It's like there's eight of them. And We don't live in a zeitgeist anymore where everyone knows everyone that knows every like, right? Right. Like Brad Pitt at one point was the most famous man on the earth because everyone knew who Brad Pitt was. And, you know, we didn't have a hundred different.

websites and movies and articles to like jump through all at once like everything came out of the set schedule and everybody got their information the same way Like sometimes I'll watch SNL. And the host is like, Oh, you you might know me from Euphoria or the last of like he'll name these things that like I know are popular but Never saw it. Yeah.

You know, there's a million things to watch. And I'm catching up on the space show from five years ago. For all mankind, first I'm watching old X-Men cartoons, not even X-Men 97. I'm watching the original run. First two seasons of this space show are great.

And then it. It's a little weird in the third. No, it's not that. For all mankind on Apple. Oh, oh, you did mention the name.

The production looks worse in the third season. It's kinda like late season agents of Shieldy. Oh. with uh robbie rivera ghost riders Yeah, where it's like this show clearly had a bigger budget before. Yes.

They're like, well, if you want to stay on the air. This main character that used to cost 2 million is now 500,000. Yeah, like.

Now we have like three sets instead of, you know, shooting everywhere we want.

Okay. So, but there's like eight of them and You don't know like I didn't know Drewski first. My introduction to Druski was. Guy that's at everything. Yes.

Guy that's at NBA All-Star Celebrity Game. Guy on a team mobile commercial. Like, who are you? Where did you come from?

So this pool right now. I think it's Drewski. Kevin Hart. Bert Kreischer. McAfee.

Jason Kelsey. Who else is like, like if you're sitting in a office. And don't really know much. About the world. And you're like in your mid-40s.

And I'm trying to come up with like. Who do we get to appeal to the youth? It's one of those names that always comes up. Oh, I show speed. I show speed.

I show speed. I will say I like iShow Speed. He's definitely, he's very athletic. I will say that. I don't give one shit about his stream or his content.

No, but when he went to Africa, dude, I was engaged. He went to Africa and was like Showing Every like whatever you think There's a lot more there than we think. Yeah, I don't care. I'm not. When you ever see it, when do you ever see it?

Oh, is Stallice Tom here? Shane Gillis might be in that bubble as well. The Bud Light commercial. Um, yeah, Shane Gillis is kind of getting in that kind of on the outside, but I but I see division because he is in some things, and I'm like, oh, how did you get here? I guess Jelly Roll and whoever else is in the WWE is an easy one.

Yeah, um I mean, this guy's little Yachty showing up with Trick Williams and myself. Although, I don't mind it. But at least he little Yachty is not shoehorned directly into the storyline. He's kind of like. Did he say Yakti?

I did that nod. Yeah, he's definitely Yachty. Did I say Yakti? Very possible. I wish I had earlier emergency live edit.

Yeah, I don't know about that. But he's not shoehorned directly into the storyline. He's kind of like he's an actual fan, and he's just kind of being Trick Williams' hype man in the back. I'm okay with that. They're making Mackey Fee and Jelly Roll the fucking main event.

Yeah, they're gonna get involved. It's going to, we're going to get the tag match at Backlash. It's going to be Randy Orton. Um Pat McAfee. versus Cody Rhodes and Jellyroll.

Yahtzee. That's great. You know what? If I'm his agent and a marketer, I'm fucking getting on that. Little Yahtzee, and it's literally a picture of him on the board.

uh board game and it's just a smaller version of Yahtzee. That shit will sell. I want 2% royalties. All right, here's the rest of David's VM. Oh, yeah, masters.

But his putting and his skipping was phenomenal. Just like you said. His wedge play was great. That's what won him in the tournament. Scotty, the par fives on Friday, he bogeyed both of them on the back nine.

That was really the. Catalyst for him, you know, kind of falling out of contention and theoretically losing the tournament. You know, that changed momentum more than anything for Scotty. Cam Young, I don't think we've seen the last of him. He will be back and there's no doubt he's going to be a factor Going forward, the front nine number seven, the wedge shot and the drive on nine really did him in today.

Justin Rose, man, he had a going on the front line. Number 12 absolutely did him in. I still can't believe he flubbed that chip. It just shows when you want something so bad sometimes. is not meant to be at the end of the day.

Sam Burns, you know, a guy that I think a lot of people look at as sort of an underachiever in professional golf. He's had some wins. But he should have more wins right now. He's a really good player, but he could be a great player. Probably should have a major two, maybe a couple more wins under his belt.

Colin Moore, Cowdude, that was as gritty of an effort as I could think of. Cody Rhodes with a torn peck competing in a hell of a cell match against Seth Rollins. Thought that guy gutted it out. I don't know what we'll see more of next. I would think he would be uh you know getting an MRI and there might be a guy taking his spot and he'll then This coming week.

Dude, the schedule is absolutely loaded on the road to the PJ Championship in Philly. Maybe Doc Rivers could be a special guest analyst because I know he's no longer the Bucs coach. That's all I got for you. By the way, check me out tomorrow. I'll be on probably with Adam Schein and a couple other shows on Mad Dog and probably with my man Chad in Portland.

That's all I got for you. I'm out. All right, David's calling all the shows today. Wake up, bud. Hey, you good?

Yeah, he didn't mention the complete implosion about Shane Lowry. Shane Lowry entered Sunday only three shots back, and Lowry shit the bed. But he's from Ireland, so I guess he goes shite shite to bed. And how do you know that? Is that what they said on the show you were working?

No, because we barely talk masters. I actually made Shane Lowry as my pick to win the masters because I was looking at value and he was sitting there at plus 1300. And I was like, oh yeah, I can do that. And he just completely fell off the face of the earth, so. There's my golf contribution.

What was the main story over the weekend? Diana, do you see me? Uh yeah, there was some Rossini talk, but you know, all sh all the shows I uh Worked with they led with Rory in some form or fashion. Saturday was. Oh man, Rory was so great.

Sunday was, holy shit, Rory sucked. Literally, it could not be anymore night and day in terms of the opens. Um But yeah, that and they're like, all right, let's see what we can squeeze from the NBA and NFL Bloodstones in terms of the draft and playoffs. What would I lead tonight with Doc? I think you have to.

you being you and servicing the listener. Also, again, I think it is a fascinating story. I'm not kidding. Because then, you know, you get to more Giannis talk, which Shams is going to be on top of that one, beating the drum until Giannis finally gets traded, if he ever gets traded, because Shams has an axe to grind with the Milwaukee Bucks. Oh, speaking of which, I don't know how I didn't lead with this.

Did you see Doc Rivers actually address the whole Shams joke from All-Star Break? Uh, and apparently, so Sham Sharania, if uh, y'all don't know, he was in the celebrity game, you know, that uh, you know, because that's that's what we think of celebrities are nowadays. Our NBA insider is a celebrity. Uh, but Doc Rivers made a joke over the All-Star Break that Giannis, uh, who was the captain of one of the teams, was going to trade Shams. And this is in response to Shams talking about Giannis being traded for like the last 28 years before Giannis was even born and whatnot.

Uh apparently Shams took, and I don't know, it's Sham Sham Sheems. I'm you see him like kind of you know changing the names because I don't exactly know what it's supposed to be, and I also don't care, he's got to stick up his ass.

Well, he literally does. He called the Milwaukee Bucks. Extremely upset about that joke that Rivers said. demanded that they take it down. Reached out to the NBA.

The NBA then reaches out to the box. They're like, hey, Shams wants you to take it down. And then the NBA winds up reposting it anyway. But apparently, he was very upset. that Doc Rivers made that joke about shams being traded off of Giannis' team.

And it's Parvard, of course, another golf reference, because he is that wound up tight. in real life.

So um Unbelievable. I can't believe that this guy is the Woge replacement and has the personality of fucking. you know, butter on crackers. Just completely bland. No salt whatsoever.

I don't know why Doc was even doing media that day. Is there? He's talking more because he's like, oh, well, I'm getting fucking fired.

So I might as well start squeezing it out. But yeah, he was doing media tours with Michelle Beadle on FanDuel and whoever watches that crap.

Okay. I don't So, Giannis talked last night, and I saw Costos have a clip about like Giannis needs an intervention. What's he doing? And he's an invention. I would take the over, and I can't do the thing.

Nick's like, I'm, you know. But he had the expression that like He's sick of it, and people are sick of it. Like, people are sick of it. But I want people to again know and then we'll fall on deaf ears like Not a lot of this was of Giannis' making. Yeah.

But Still, this last year and a half has been. I mean, it is to the point here. Where Giannis might have more interest in continuing to be a buck. Then fans have interest in him continuing to be a buck. The narrative has certainly changed in regards to how people feel about Giannis.

Even last night, saying something to the extent of, I don't know, I mean, if they put one in front of me, I might sign it. Or I gotta ask my wife, like, I just, I don't, he's, it's Jekyll and Hyde. It really is. He's, yeah. I genuinely think he's conflicted.

I really think for the first time in his career, he's just conflicted. He's just like, I've been hearing this shit for so long. And just at some point, maybe you start to believe some of it. We're human. Like, if you're being dragged through the mud, you know, over and over again, maybe you're like, damn, you know, like.

All right, maybe I should be fired if I'm Resenier, or maybe I should ask for a trade if I'm Jalen Hurts and the Eagles. But Eventually, you just get worn down and beaten down.

So Giannis just might. It's just normal frustration. I mean, I get it. Dude, they missed the playoffs. Like, and he's been in the playoffs all but one other season before this.

So, like, It's okay to have natural, you know, thinking. I'm like, all right, what are we doing here? Like, I want to compete, you know.

So yeah. I understand fans' frustration, but I also understand frustration that's on his end as well. Ultimately, dude. If you would have asked me last week or a couple of weeks ago, I thought Giannis was a goner for sure. Listening to yesterday's comments and reading some of it, and again, I'm not a box fan, we know where I lie, but.

I really just think Once he gets further removed away from this season, and then Doc Rivers no longer being a head coach. I think the Bucs are going to offer Giannis an extension. They're like, listen. Let's do this the right way. You know, we want to get some basketball minds in here.

We want your input, but we don't want to LeBron James you. Like, you're not going to come and run the fucking organization.

So, like, We'll have the line of communication open as you were requested to a street. Let's see what we can do to make this work. I think. In a couple of months, well, I don't know if you want to wait a couple of months, but. I think we're going to see Giannis be extended, and I think he'll have renewed faith.

In the organization, as long as he feels like they're communicating with him. I actually no longer think that Giannis is going to be traded. And it was a big 180 from, you know, because we talked about this weeks ago. I thought Giannis was either going to be a nick or a heat. I don't think either of those things happen anymore.

I feel I'm going to wake up, babe. A new Bart analogy just dropped. He's cl he's climbed the diving board? I think he's on the diving board. Like, if you climb the diving board, you've thought long and hard that you want to climb all the way up.

I'm thinking the 12-foot diving board. Mm-hmm.

At your local community pool. You've climbed up it. You're not going back down. You can't go back down. Ah, people bitch out all the time, man.

I stood online for the nitro and then I got there and I said, nope. Can't go back down. The only way down is the jump. He's got one maybe one more step before he's on that board. Yeah.

But he's going to have to figure this out because he can't keep. It's like, what do you want to hear? Yeah.

It's just it's very Frustrating. And if you had this off-season or never. But but still even if he ends up staying even if he signs an extension How do we know that he's not just signing? To get the most money out of the contract that he can, and then he's going to demand a trade in another year. Because he can get more at the Bucs than elsewhere.

Unless he gets traded, you know. I don't know.

It's just there's no appetite for it. People are going to cover it. People are going to talk about it. Shams is going to say, you know, float out 12 different possibilities because he needs to be right. Sure.

But there's no appetite. Like. Here in Wisconsin, the AD left for a job at the Big Ten Network that they made up for him. And I think with Doc being fired, and Mauryanis' comments, it's like. Let's just talk about this other thing today because it's I don't fucking What more can we do?

Brewers got swept by the Nationals. Yeah, Cubs almost got swept by the pirates. Thank God for Carson Kelly, who got the most clutch hit of a catcher this season. My condolences on Cade Horton. Uh Yeah, that sucks for me twice because not only am I a fan of the Cubs, he was also one of my keepers in my draft.

As soon as you saw forearm tightness, you were like, I literally said, fuck. And I thought the weakness of the Cubs coming into this year was starting pitching. And now you lose Horton.

So I don't know if they're going to have to make a trade or sign Lucas Giolito or. Hope that Jackson Wiggins in AAA all of a sudden becomes this year's Cade Horton, but. I can't imagine the cubs are Gonna be you know, find a replacement anytime soon. Lucas Giolito. He's still available.

Still available. Who am I thinking of? Lucas Giolito was a national in 16. He was, as more, more recently, he was a White Sox. He was a White Sox for six years.

Why do I always think of him as a national? I don't know, but he's one year with the Nationals. Yeah, he's bounced around a bit. Who would eat brewer? Who was the Brewers pitcher that we just had?

That was a national. He was older. I wish I had the chef drop where he goes. Jacob Misikowski. Who Gio Gonzalez is who I'm thinking of.

Oh, yeah. I remember him. I got his name. Good. I got his name without even.

You guys got out brewered, by the way. Three buns? How does that happen? You guys usually do that. That never happens to you.

Yeah, well, I mean, it's the jerseys. There's nothing else. The Brewers are playing well until they put those jerseys on. Whisko in three. That's right.

It was real dumb. Like everyone saw the leak of the jerseys and were like, I don't really like those. And then. it became like a Milwaukee versus rest of the state thing that Yeah. Kind of got out of it.

That's, you know who's buying that jersey? Jim Rome's buying that jersey. Whisko Fam. Is that what he says? Oh, he's a big whisko guy.

I have a real problem. Because he comes here what two weeks out of the year Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whisko fan, what's happening? Old trapper beef turkey, what's your beef? I don't know.

You know, that G-Fed guy that tours stadiums and hotels? Not really. He toured the Memphis hotel that LeBron shit on. Then he just came up to Milwaukee for the weekend.

Okay. And it's, I'm conflicted when I see somebody like post great things about our city. I don't know, but I don't like that everyone could just swoop in here and be like, here's five of your favorite things. And we're like, oh, oh, oh, oh. Like a seal waiting for another sardine.

Like if I were to come to New York and be like, Oh god, this pizza's fucking great. You could be like What the fuck? Oh, look at this. It's a fucking Statue of Liberty, dude. It's not that I've been here since 2001.

I still haven't seen this. I still haven't gone to Statue of Liberty. I've seen it, you know, in passing. I've still never visited, and I don't think I'm ever going to. Unless I have little Carlos.

I was in New York for six hours and I hopped on the tour bus right out of the Madison Square Garden. You're such a rube. They saw you coming a mile away. Tickets are probably 40 bucks. They charge you 80.

They're like, hey, listen, we got a special deal right now. We'll get giving you $100 off.

So the ticket is only 260. What would you do if you were in New York for six hours? For the first time. Oh, first time? Honestly, I probably wouldn't have even left the airport.

Six hours is not worth it. 'Cause we went to a pizza Shop and then I go to the 9-11 museum.

So Holy shit. And you made it back to the airport? Like, cause that's no, we were in a car. Oh, but that's fucking risky. How were we in a car?

We went on the bus, but I also drove, I drove down Broadway. Doesn't sound like a real story. Can't drive down Broadway in the middle of the day traffic. No, we did. It was great.

Mm.

We were just stuck in traffic. It was fucking awesome. I was like, I'm in New York, baby. I need receipts. Do you guys even have any potholes anymore?

Mami's up to. Yeah, there's a pothole right down the street that won't get fixed. There's literally a sinkhole. All dominoes. They were filling in potholes for a while.

Oh, I mean, I'm waiting for my potholes to get fixed. I'm waiting for my universal child care, even though I don't have childs. Where are the free buses that were promised to me? But you know what? It's better than Eric Adams.

What a piece of shit he was. He's a citizen of a new country I saw. Yeah.

Yeah, so he can go uh, you know. Evade more taxes and take bribes and shit. He needed to get the hell out of Dodge because he was definitely getting indicted. Carlos Ortiz. Yeah, you're on, I guess.

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Carlos, tell your wife you got another one of these booked next week. Dude, oh fuck. The draft is next week. Uh yeah, what's it next Thursday? We probably should talk about that on Monday.

We have a second-round pick, so I didn't. I've done nothing. I don't have a job. And the Packers have a second-round pick. I don't know.

The Giants are picking at five. It's actually very exciting. I have no fucking clue. Me personally, if you ask me right now. I'll take Sonny Styles, but I have no idea.

I have absolutely no idea where they're going to go. Maybe they'll go with Francis Magawai. I can never pronounce his last name, but they'll tackle out of Miami. They can go anywhere. Caleb Downs, who knows?

All right, next week we'll talk about that and we'll recap Mania. Yeah.

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