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Visit Lowe's.com slash terms for details. Subject to change. Good afternoon. Everybody, welcome into the Winkler Verse. Chuck Freeman's back.
No need to pussyfoot around this one. How about that? Freemsey.
Well, let's get into it, Freamsy. Man, it's been a while. It's been a while since we've done this. My opinion of podcasts has changed dramatically in like five years.
Well, yeah, because now we need to be on them. Stay unemployed. No, no, they're a waste of time when we're on the radio, Chuck.
Well, everybody's going to podcast. What happens when a guy loses his job? He goes to do a podcast. Everybody's doing it. Even the guys who are on air are anticipating, well, someday I'm going to lose my job, so I better start this podcast.
Well, one of the big reasons why I continued the podcast. was because I figured At some point, I would get laid off again. And I'm glad that I did that because now here I am. Uh with you.
Now that it's a necessity, that's why it's changed? Or just do you think the broadcast business is different in general?
Well, I just, it's changed. It has changed. It's a you know, corporate America. has changed it. We're seeing our old station 1250 trying to make a comeback.
97.3 has gone over to 920, and they're hanging out with a couple of their guys there and trying to keep the plate spinning. Um Yeah. It's odd. It's going in, but I do think podcasts are a future here. I think there is.
You know, I do the Lockdown Brewers podcast. And I just think that's it's the way to go. People want to get that they want to hear us or you want to see us. There's ways that I mean, you could punch this right into the radio right now and hear us live like we're on a radio station.
So what's the difference, right? Yeah. I mean, is there any difference of us being on the radio or just doing this right now? You could hear us over in the car. I think the big difference is.
There's less people that are gonna listen to us on accident now. Yeah. You know, I think that like... When you're on the radio, you benefit. From People not hooking up another device.
Or just like What you know, whatever they're gonna find you. That's why I said about when I was doing the national show. I said If you're here listening. You're listening because you heard me on the radio. We didn't advertise.
I didn't do anything online. I like to say how John Cena was the last real champion. I was the last real radio show. 'Cause I focus totally on radio, no social media. Until I, you know.
When you're on site, I showed a video of me saying goodbye, and then all that, yeah. Yeah, and then you got crushed by media critics out there, which I was on your side. It's like this, it was refreshing to see somebody do that. You know, I mean, because, right. We're sailing a while.
Here's the problem with those networks. Here's the problem with those networks, like the one you were on. And I like those networks, but they're cheap. Stay with people for a while, right? I mean, they're constantly changing.
Even when you took over, it was like. Oh, how long are you going to be able to do that?
Now, you were doing a solid show. And all of a sudden you why would you lose your job? We were doing what was the purpose of changing over it, but these that's what those networks do. They change and they change and they change. How many times have we seen ESPN radio?
The national network change over it. It's just Nobody's, I don't know, I don't know the reasoning behind it. People are excited to see you as you can see in the comments. Holy shit, it's Chuck. Good to see you back, player.
Yes, the boys are back. The boys are back in town. We got amazing listeners. I almost fell out of my chair. Yeah.
Childhood radio duel unlocked? We haven't been around that long, have we? We've been off theater for six years, Jock. What? We've been off Have we?
I guess you're right. Yeah, March 20.
Well, you were on a little after me.
So I guess March of 2020, yeah. Yeah, you got laid off during the use COVID as an excuse. Yep. They didn't have an excuse in August of 22. They just said.
Ah, fuck it. You guys go home. Which is really weird now, obviously, because. Oh, your boy Chip Gilginbach says hi.
Well, the Friday fond du Lac back at it again.
Now, here's what I'll say. I think This is all the corporate radio, I would stay away from that in a heartbeat. But I feel like local radio. Like I'm doing stuff, I'm a sports director at KFIZ. I feel like local radio is, we're thriving in Fodilac.
thriving but I feel like You know Local sports radio. Like the guys at Odyssey, God bless them. They're all coming, they're coming back and doing shows. And I'm not, I'm still not sure why you're not doing a show there. But why?
I mean, how long is it going to last? Because you're at the mercy of corporate America, just like you and I were the first time around there. Yeah, I know. I love, I mean, you know, being a part of KFIZ for the years that I was. To Just kind of reflect on the radio career that I've had at this point, and I think you'll agree.
And what brought you back there is like there is something to a radio station that's just owned by like a d a guy. Oh, without a doubt. Or a couple guys own a couple. stations. It's more intimate, not just for you, but for the And I think like You know, to have There's still a charm, man, to have I can, my daughter's playing basketball, and she's going to be on the radio tonight.
And Chuck Freeman's on the call with Nick Man Knocker. I mean, that's great. And just walking into the. KFIZ Studios, you feel radio. You feel here we are, it's alive and kicking like we grew up with.
Yeah. And that's the way, and I love it, man. And that's the way it is.
So I get to do that. I'm the brewers. I do the brewers podcast. I locked on brewers, and I still cover all the games and all that. But yeah, things are going well, but.
You know, we were airing your program there for a while. Yeah. And we picked it up because it was you. Yeah. I'd walk into the building late night.
I'd hear your voice. And it's like, God, how odd. I'm hearing his voice when we're just doing early mornings together. And I get it all the time. Are you and Bart ever going to get back together and do a show?
Are you guys ever going to get back and do like a regular. Radio show, like a three or four hour show. And I said, Well, that's not up to us. Yeah, this is okay.
So, good, good. Let's talk about this.
So, Chuck Freeman's into the Winklerverse today. And I do have some like things to bring up potentially in terms of sports.
Okay. But I don't know. I was trying to think like. If you and I are talking, do people want us to be like the office ladies where we revisit our old episodes and now try to profit off of it years later? Uh like is the main genre of podcasts right now, or do you want to be like So the Bears might move.
I don't know. I mean, drop your questions in the comments. And I'll put a link up too in about. 10 minutes or so, if people want to hop in here and get in with the boys, but I don't So it's been two months now since my last show. And I've decided that this is going to be At least for a good year.
Like I'm gonna see if this can be a thing. The Winkler verse. And I think that it can. I've got some great sponsors that are helping with that. As you can see, Carl's place with the golf simulators.
Dan Shaney Insurance on the YouTube stream. A happy place, hemp, of course, promo code BART. 25% off. And then, you know, whatever people can click or listen or whatever, that all that'll help.
So I'm committed to this. I was just talking to somebody the other day. You know, these the the pickup Situation at school is like The people you talk to the most are your kids, not even your kids' friends' dads, your kids' classmates' dads. And you're just like, All right, man. You're watching the Olympics?
It's like, what the what the what are we supposed to fucking talk about? But so somebody said, have you been looking for jobs? To you or me. To to me. Oh, okay.
And I'm thinking like. Like it. Am I not? How am I in a business? Where my name's out there.
And people listening like know who I am, and you too. But then like people that are hiring, like I feel like we're free agents. Scouting department should be like, right. People should be sending their station resumes. to us.
Not me having to fill out. You'll go to the iHeartRadio portal and type in your fucking Career monster. No, I feel like some of this is It's a little clicky in that, where we're not in some of those circles there. And we're not ever going to be in those circles. It's a big club, Freems, and you ain't in it.
Well No, it's not, but there's a few of those. And we're not in it. And it's because Um I don't know. And I don't care because I love what I'm doing right now. I'm talking about one particular place.
Um not the place we worked at. I don't know the place we worked at. I think I like what they're doing. I'm surprised that they haven't asked you back. I would love to work for Sparky.
Sparky's kind of in charge. If he was solely in charge, and I hear a lot of things, nice things about this new general manager who wasn't there when we were there. Yeah, I'd consider doing that. I don't want to do early mornings ever again. I'm going to do 6 a.m.
to 10 a.m. I don't want to do that. But I should have phrased that. When I say club. Yes.
It's not that. It's uh it's hard to it's hard to Pinpoint it. But I feel like there's politics in any business. I feel like there's one politics with one particular company that doesn't want to touch either one of us. Yeah, who's that?
I am not saying. You know who I'm talking about. Yeah. Do do it, did it. That's you saying that.
Oh, that was just in my head. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't even know what that's from. You know, because we're going to come on and we're going to shake it up a little bit, and you know, we may not fit the. culture or whatever they want to talk about.
Tim Shea says, I should open a radio station. My first two hires would be you two. And then Tim Shea would come on with us. Yeah, it's it's see that's that's therein lies the problem. Because I've heard from a lot of people that said, if I had a radio station, I'd.
Yeah, great. Because guess what? the people that have radio stations.
So, this is what I said the other day, and you're, you know, this is classic. Bart ego Is making his body fall over because his head's so big. I feel like And I'm going to talk about us, but I'm going to talk about me just for a second. But if I was like on a national show and then I I feel like if I was in any different market, I would be like. The fucking top dog chuck.
Well, I think if you were back on that old station again, you would be. I feel like if there was a... I don't know, I watch people on like... In like Boston and New York, and all these other markets that like act like me. And they're superstars.
And then I act like me here and everyone's like. What's this guy's problem? Why is he so negative? Why is he such an asshole? I'm just doing what I'm seeing other people do, but in Milwaukee, it don't fucking play.
I don't know. I don't know if I agree with you on that. No, you think I'm just a huge asshole? No, no, no, no. I don't think that.
No, I think it would. I think it does play. I think it would play. I think it has played. Uh-huh.
So, then what am I doing here with you? You should be doing that nice show on CBS still. I thought it was fine. I thought it was great. I thought she was great.
It was a good show. You know what? Here's the one thing: you know, people can criticize you for going on this road or this road or this one. But you know what? When I listen to you do this, I could tell you're sitting on your couch and you're watching all four of those football games that weekend.
And you're on top of it. Not all these guys are doing that.
Some guys fake it through. But I know. I know how you live. You're watching all that.
Now, I may not all agree with your opinions, but you're doing your homework on it.
Well, it's uh I like sports, Chuck.
Well, yeah, but some of these guys you like the fake are. Like sports too, but they're not putting their nose in the ground. The bald Croatian says, Bart, it's because you look like you're streaming from the hammer aisle at Menard's.
Okay. I'm not getting rid of the pegboard, man. No fucking jam. You got the Rob Deere Sports Illustrated. What's that?
You got the Rob Deere Sports. I have that. Yeah. On another wall here. Yeah.
Well, my dad had this forever. It was. The George Webb thing. I got that one of those. Yeah.
13.0. He put it in a frame with Rob Deere and then with just some different cards. Yeah, I think it's cool. Yeah. Oh And then there is the WBA award I stole from us.
Yeah, I was supposed to get a duplicate of that, but I never did.
Well, I can treat it like the Stanley Cup. I've had it for nine years, I can send it to you. I had a guy, you know, I won a WBward BA award two years ago. Oh, I never checked Chuck, I never changed my name on here. Where?
Oh, South Ethereal? That's an inside joke. Seems a long time. Long time football coaching. Legendary football coach in Fondilac.
I never changed my name. Yeah, I just did that on purpose. No, I didn't. I won a WBA award for Best Sportscast a couple of years ago. In Fodilac.
State award. And some punk comes up to me. Another radio station. I said, yeah. You didn't win it in the large market.
On one of those other stations we're talking about here in Milwaukee. What, do you think I'm not good enough to work at your radio station? Is that what you're telling me, son? Please.
Son in a literal sense or figuratively? Yeah. Both. Punk. Yeah.
So I don't know what to do. I don't, I like, I feel like. I mean, we could be the heir appearance to Bob and Brian, no fucking question. Yeah. Although, you know what?
I like it.
Well, I don't want to work early mornings. And, you know, it'd be great doing a show, but I love what I'm doing now. I love doing the Brewers Podcast and working at KFIZ. I would never give up either one of those. Yeah.
If we and I were ever to do another show again. Um but yeah, I just um Okay. Absolutely. But getting up at four o'clock in the morning. You're okay with it, I think.
I'm not. I just don't want to do that anymore. I've been doing that too much in my life. Yeah, it sucks, but I think once you get in the habit of it. I mean, I feel for like Armin and Billy and Drew getting up.
Their show starts at five. God.
Well, that's used to be that way at SSP when Wicked and I were. Yeah. It was at five and then The great Tom Parker, he was Phenomenal program director. We'd still be at WSSP if Tom Parker was there. Um You know, he moved us to six to ten.
I think it was because a bill was coming in and they were moving things around.
So we went to sixth of 10, which was fine. Four hours is a long time. I think three hours is a good, solid way to go. Three hours. Three hours, get out of there.
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Oh. Greggie. Happy retirement, Greg. Oh, Greggie, Greggie. Greggie's biking up a storm down in Florida.
They'll be back this summer.
Well, you have two youthful-looking parents, man. I'm Facebook friends with them. And yes, they're enjoying life, that's for sure. That's good.
Well deserved. I'm going to take you saying I have youthful looking parents as. the lightest way for you to try to tell me you're attracted to my mom. What? No, I'm talking about your your dad is.
Retired and he look at the great shape he's in. Man, look at my face falling right down. What's going on now, then? Yes. What do you mean?
What's going on? It's in fantastic shape. But you're, no, you're in better shape than you were like five or six years ago. You lost some weight, didn't you? I lost weight.
I'm not at my lowest, but I did. I was a little. But you looked a little thinner.
So, if you saw me and my dad in public, would you think that I was my dad's dad? No. Yeah. Someone thought I was married to my mom once. Oh, I mean, your mom's young looking, very young-looking.
Yeah. I wanted to fucking kill that guy. Oh, who was it? A subductor? Oh, geez.
How am I supposed to trust a doctor that can't even tell I'm not married to my mom? When Shannon, my girlfriend, was having, this was back in the middle. There it is. God bless those early mornings, Ermin. God bless those early Uh having a kid age the fuck out of you.
Well no shit. Come on, what were you gonna say? God, I don't remember. Don't you feel like doing a show with me again is just like Just like a warm embrace. It's just like, oh, this just feels fucking so nice.
It is. I was waiting for wondering. It's been about a year or so that we've done one.
Well, I'll do one with you every day at 6 a.m. No, we're not doing it at 6 a.m. If we could make money off it, I'd do it later in the day. I mean, we could do one of these every day. We can make some, you know, we're not going to do it for free.
No. Do you think do you think I'm wrong to think that Like I don't I don't know If there's an opening for any job, I'm thinking, oh, what about that Barton? Do we not have that big of a footprint as I thought we maybe did? We do. I told you, I think that there's probably one company that has wants no part of us.
Um And I think in SSP, I SSP. Uh, you know, I mean, if they have The right guy is in charge there. I think we're back. Or we would we would be back somehow. I don't see why wouldn't you?
Why? I mean, we had, how many times did we win a show of the year in the state? Why wouldn't you? It'd be like a no-brainer. But I feel like Um I I don't know.
Yeah. But I'm not, I don't lose any sleep over it. I you do, though. I mean, you're upset about it. Money Yeah, you're right.
You are. That angers you. You know what's starting to anger me? I'm Obviously, I've got Laid off now twice by the same company in three years.
So that's Enthralling. But without that, I wouldn't, you know, we wouldn't be doing this.
So, you know, silver lining. Um But then I get these people yelling at me like, oh, shut the fuck up. You got fired, you piece of shit. This is why you're not on the radio.
Well, don't listen to it, though. Those are guys who are just trying to bait you into stuff.
Well, those are guys that might be right, though. Jeff, I don't know about that. That's what I'm worried about. But then people are like, oh, you're unemployed. Yeah.
I'm a business owner. They're trying to bait you. I'm a LLC owner. Or are you really? Oh yeah.
Okay. I got an LLC for this bitch.
Well, there we go. I'm a business owner. No, I I you're The thing, here's about you and I doing a show. Yeah. As far as topics, like talking about Giannis getting traded, after a while, I was like, God, that's part of it.
I would have did not want to miss the daily four hours talking about Giannis getting traded, and you and I sitting on the air and bashing all those national guys. Is that would get old, right, after a while? I've said a lot that a lot of what our show was was. Hey, this national guy said this. Let's fucking yell at him.
Like, hey, hey, Brendan, do you have the cut of cowherd? Coward just said Packers. Get it. I don't care what it is. Get it.
Yeah. Get it. We got to talk about it. Why, you're two targets these days from what I've been seeing. LaFleur is a daily target for you.
And uh And um Yeah, he really gets under your skin. I hate him. Why? I don't even hate him as a coach. I don't like I don't like him as a person.
Why do I have to? Why do I have to like everything our teams do? Why do I have to like everything our guys are? I don't like them. What don't you like about LeFleur?
I mean, like about him as a person. A coach, whatever, but a person? I think he's got insecurity issues and he's not facing them. Just like Kirk Herb Street needs a Support animal, but no one will make him admit it.
So everybody acts like he's the only person that's ever had a dog in the world. I'm so fucking tired of that guy. Ripstrey? Oh, he's terrible. You don't like Herbie?
I used to love Herbie a lot, and then he started crying about Alabama not getting in and brought his dog everywhere. And then it died. And I, you know, I like dogs, but find that's the first time in history I've ever been like, thank God that dog's dead. And then he found a fucking other one.
Well, he needs to get under my skin. He gets under my skin. Any local guys get on your skin? How about me?
Well, how about which ones don't, Chuck? How about me trying to bait you into something? No, I think a lot of people are doing good work. And even if it's not for me. I think this is what I said when I signed off.
Just be genuine. As long as you're going to be yourself. If you're going to be yourself, that's fine. What else can you be? But I think there's a lot of people that emulate what they think.
And Chuck. I've thought about that a lot. I think I'm guilty of that a lot. I'm guilty of I'm guilty when I first started with you. And took over for Mike.
First of all. They work. petrified that Wicket was gone. Mortified. They thought the whole thing was crumbling.
When he was gone. And that's why Chuck and Wicket became Chuck and Winkler to fool people. And Parker's going like, no, no, the fuck, come on, Tom. Yeah, 'cause we wanted Chuck and Bart. Right?
We want a new era. But I had to go where, where? And then so he left. And then I thought. No one knows who I am.
I need to be a tack dog. It's the same, it's the same thing I did in sophomore year at Goodrich. That was when it was 10th grade.
So that the high school would start in 10th grade. And I Was like, I needed people to know who I was.
So I ran for class president. And I won somehow. And I didn't do anything. I went to Kritzky's homeroom and he. Told us the price of candy or whatever the fuck.
That was like all we did. But I had to have people know. Who I was. And so I came in hot. And I felt maybe I've come in too hot.
Yeah. Well, I think that You know, in this, in this world, Some of these people are doing the hiring, they don't sometimes want guys who are over the top, and that's a shame. That's a shame they want just right down the middle, politically duck. Like some of the guys who are in town, were on radio. These guys could walk right through Miller Park and Ampham Field, and nobody would recognize them.
There's some of these guys who could walk right down. Write down AM fam, including the guy who came up to me and criticized it and said, Oh, you're working in a small market. Yeah. You can't win in a big market. We wanted a big market.
No, but yeah, of course. But somebody, yeah. But how many times do you walk around and fan feel or? When you go to Fisher Forum or wherever you are. I had a guy the other day tell me.
Chuck, I've been listening to you for Since back in the Chuck and Winkler days. All the time I get that. All the time. God, I miss. How many times have I heard?
Man, I miss you, Embart on the air. You know, boy, you guys did some crazy stuff. Oh, I said, you know, it's great. I mean, but we've always had great fans and listeners. You know, I think you got to listen to the public really and say, hey, what does the public want?
Do they want these bozos on the air who are frat house, or do they want a couple of guys on there who's from Milwaukee? And, you know, telling it like it is. I think that um I I do wonder what the public Once When it comes to it, look at the ratings. You know what the public wants. You know what they don't want?
What don't they want? Oh, I'm not going to name names. I love that you're still on the five-hour energy kick. No, God, sometimes two a day, Bart. Do those even work?
I think I'm numb to him at this point. I I do. I decided to do my podcast last night at 10 o'clock. And I was like, God, I got to take one, but I'm not going to be able to fall asleep till three now. I was a podcast at 12:30.
I was sleeping. It was like, you're not supposed to sleep after these. But I think I'm just taking so many of them, but it's like a habit. Remember when we did, didn't we do a bracket with five-hour energy? Yeah.
Yeah. I was trying to find one of those videos. I mean, it tastes good. I look forward to having one every day. He said, I'm up to two.
You wake up and he's like, I can't think, I can't wait to have that five-hour energy black cherry. I go to my closet here. I say, I get them through Amazon. All right, go down to the local gas station here. Yeah, she knows exactly what I'm coming in.
The cherry extra strength. This comment says they're his modern-day blue chews. JR says the public wants you, we need you. And Bald Croatian's back. He says, What does everybody want?
Head.
Okay. Uh but Yep. A boss Or a company is going to listen to the public and say, hey, you know. This is who should be on the radio, those guys here. I mean, I hear people talking about them and all that, and this is five years ago, and you know, we're still.
doing stuff around the area. Um, yeah, Dinkler has no talent. That's from dumbfounded 6599. Those are the guys you gotta avoid with a picture of your dog. I take that back.
There's the second dog I've ever wanted to see dead. Oh jeez. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So, what do you draw on this podcast as far as listening?
I mean, Do you do it daily? Are you different times? What's been Well, yes or so. I try to do it. I'm doing one every day, essentially.
But I don't know like When?
So on Mondays, I do it with Carlos from the show, and we do it at noon. Tuesdays, I record with Grant and Paul. We record at like two.
So I have to work around like other people's schedules too. Sure. Um but what I've said is when you check the feed, there should be a new one. Yeah. When you check the feed.
There should be a new one. I can't go on at a different time every day. But yesterday, I meant to do one during the day. I was trying to coordinate with somebody, it didn't work out.
So when we got to I needed to do a podcast last night. There was so much that I had to get off my chest. Whether it was Gottlieb or Basatia or all this shit. I just, I had to, I didn't even care if anybody watched it. I just needed to say, it's like, I have this right now.
I'm trying to get 7,000 steps a day. It's like three and a half miles. It's a target, but low enough it's not going to kill me. But if it's like... Dinner time, and I'm only at like 4,000 steps.
I'm like freaking out. And I had all the shit that I needed to spew out.
So I didn't do it till like 8:30 last night. But it's random. It's all over the place. Are you on your. You are going to be on your tour of like making good with all the people you've rubbed the wrong way.
Are you still on that? Remember Universe? What did you call it? Infrastructure Week? What else?
infrastructure for life that you were going to do. You were going to just. Go routine.
Well, I'm trying. Shake hands with all those people that you burn bridges with, or they burn bridges with you. If there's anybody. Who when you say Bart's doing infrastructure week. I wonder who he'll have on.
And if you're thinking of someone and they haven't been on, It's not been for a lack of effort. Oh, you've reached out a few. Yeah, they don't. They don't. Do they think they don't want to come on because they feel like you're going to barroom them?
They're going to. I would. You would barroom them? I would think that I was going to, yeah. I'm not going to.
Yeah. I want to have these guys on and have long, just like conversations. I want to just talk. Yeah. And I'll say my wrongs.
I shouldn't have attacked it, whatever. I just want to talk. But I how could you not? Oh, yeah. Hey, I know I used to spend every waking breath I had shitting on you.
Wanna come on my podcast? I'm nice now. How the fuck would you respond to that? Especially if you go on my Twitter and I'm yelling at fucking everybody that breathes. He's trying to make good on people because he needs the.
Get a job. You don't. I don't think people know this. In 2018, Mm-hmm. 97.3 were recruiting us to come over there.
Maybe they were recruiting you. No. You and I, you remember this talk. Because you were under, I was not under contract at WSSP, but you were under that contract. And you had that.
What the six months free, or whatever it was. Remember that? Are you sure you're not thinking of Wicked? I don't think it was me. No, it was you.
Because I told you. I remember like, well, nobody, I said to you, nobody's talking to me. You were on that at no compete. And remember, you said, is there a way around it? But they wanted us to go over there because they were just going to go over to 97 and they wanted us to go over there.
And I was like, well, I don't want to do early mornings. And we weren't going to do early mornings. But we were gonna, they wanted us over there. Oh yeah.
97. It just never happened. I don't know if it was ever going to happen, but I mean, they. Talk to me a couple of times because I wasn't at WSSP. You went over there.
I wasn't under, huh? You eventually went over there.
Well, I did after the fact, but I'm saying when I was at SSP, they wanted us to come over there. Mm. You don't remember that? Yeah. I was never contacted myself, maybe through you.
No one's ever contacted me. No, no, they talked to me. Yeah. And I talked to you that day. I was like about noon.
I was in the Robert Specially Meets parking lot of all places. Robert Specialty Mike. And you said, Well, why can't I just we're talking about ways around it? Because you couldn't get you could not work at a competing radio station, but I couldn't. I never was under one of those contracts.
So that's why I could, that's why I was at 97.3, like two days later after getting let go from SSB. People are asking uh How there are no Competes in local radio. Yeah, there are. I didn't know what a no-compete was, and then I was in TV, and they're like, you have a no-compete.
So if we fire you, you can't work at the one other place in lacrosse. And I'm like, You're paying me $18,000 a year. And if you fire me, I don't have a lie. I can't do it. That's the problem with this.
Well, that's what you signed at SSB. I don't compete. That's why. Because I gave me a raise. Yeah, but if you do that.
Um you're They have all the power. Yeah, we work day and night. They have a big growing tower. They have the plant, but we have the power. They have the power.
Because they say, oh, Bart, you're done.
Well, then you can't work in the area for six months. I think my no compete right now is in effect. That I can't work in New York Metro. I think I see it there. I think you're safe.
I think you're safe. The only reason I haven't applied at ESPN New York is the non-compete. Otherwise, it'd be me and Bart Scott, Bart Squared. And you and Michael Kay? Me and Michael Kay.
Yep. And whatever Rosenberg they have, I don't remember which one they have. Dave. No, I don't know. I don't know.
But who knows where this broadcast business is headed? I just, I feel like corporate America, like I said at the top, is just. But yeah. It's just kind of squeezing things out a little bit.
Well, it's squeezing things out. AI is taking over. We're all going to die. But other than that, The The I will You say don't get bothered when people like But they don't get it, Chuck.
Someone was yelling at me for, oh, all you do, you're in a podcast now because you can't. Get hired. There's no jobs. Mm-hmm. It's not like I lost, oh, I lost my construction job.
I'll just go work at. I lost my. I'm no longer at Wentz Construction.
Now I'm at Farmers Construction. I'm at Milwaukee Construction Co. You know, all these names, some of these companies with their names. Why does when a guy comes after you who doesn't know the broadcast business and says that? Why do you?
Yeah, I could see human nature as they get upset, but. Yeah, be honest and say, yeah, I'm doing this podcast because there's no doll pigs out there. But then I think I don't. Like Brandon Tierney's no longer on WFAN, right? Uh-huh.
And so he started a podcast. And I think New York. Like the people, everyone's just like, oh, good for Brandon. He's got an audience. He's just, he's not there.
So he's doing this. We get what he's doing. And then here I do it in Milwaukee, and it's like, Podcast equipment should be more expensive, you fucking ginger. Fuck man. I don't know.
I think people are just because I know that people. Because if they know you're easily irritated, I get it. I mean, I get from where you're coming from on that. Bye. What are you going to do?
Speaking of Robert Specialty Meats. You been there in a while? All you got to do is go down 43 player and then take a north on fucking Christine Avenue and then take a take a left at the big rock and a right at the used to be a shell, now it's a mobile and you'll be right there. That's what I used to say on the radio, right? Yeah.
Yeah. It was 12 seconds about promoting their special of the day, and two minutes on directions as if nobody had Google on their phone. Mm-hmm. That was the original Google Maps. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, the Apple the Apple Maps. Follow me. But yeah, so That's the nature of the broadcast business. I'm not sour about it.
I like what I'm doing right now. But if we ever did a show again, I'd definitely be open to it, but I'm not giving that other stuff up. The other thing about what people want is Since all I can do right now, all I'm qualified to do right now is talk about Matt LaFleur. Um I have not, I don't feel like, and going back to 10 years, 15 years. I don't feel like I've ever had a take that's been so hated.
By the people. On LaFleur? What's the standard take on that? I thought he should be fired. And I think the Packers are being complacent.
I think, all right, 40 minutes in, we can do a little sports. I think the Packers. I was talking about this last night. The Brewers and the Packers. You can't compare them.
Like I'm gonna I will say things about the Brewers. That then, if I will say something about the Brewers. In a positive way, but I would say that same thing in a negative way if the Packers did it. Oh, the Brewers are just trying to stay competitive, bites at the apple. That works for them, it has to work.
I don't think they can afford two bad seasons in a row. in the structure of MLB. The Packers They have revenue sharing. They've got huge coffers. It's NFL, it's totally different, and yet they're acting like.
They're hamstrung. And that bothers me, but it doesn't seem to but nobody seems to give a shit. Nobody seems to give a shit. The Packers are hamstrung, they're acting like it. But they just signed Michael Parsons for 50 billion a year.
Yeah, that's a good retort. But they should have fired their coach. Why? Why should they have fired their what what? Other than the fact that they can't win a playoff game, I really believe.
Here's the thing. That seems like all I need to hear. I suppose.
So, who else?
So, who better? That's a problem. That's the problem. And so I think I I've seen a lot of people Okay. advocate for Matt LaFleur.
But before they say any of his accomplishments. It's Well, if you fire him, who are you going to get or compared to some of these other people? See, how am I not?
Okay, look at this comment. Is this what rock bottom looks like swearing on YouTube on a Thursday afternoon? How am I not supposed to let that affect me? How am I not supposed to let that affect me? That's a tough burn.
That's a tough burn to just fucking walk through. But he's there watching, that guy is. Right. There's a reason why he's watching. I don't know.
Um here's the thing with LaFleur. And I said this one, Rogers. I mean, the guy had this knack for just tearing up teams in the regular season. I'm beating up on bad teams. Yeah.
I don't, but that, you know, that's what the talent they had. They had Aaron Rodgers and they were just rolling over teams. And they get to the postseason, they'd get up to San Francisco, and the show would be over. Yeah. And Lafleur would do it, but yeah.
You know, as far as X's and O's, you and I can never figure it out. I mean, you and I. If we walked in one of those coaches' meetings. Be totally lost. We don't know.
We don't understand all that. All we see is on the surface.
Well, he's not winning football games. Are you not winning playoff games? Not getting to the playoffs, barely getting to the playoffs. One of those things, not winning the vision titles.
So, who knows if another guy out there is the right formula or not?
So, then you're saying that our jobs are useless? No. Bye. I'm just saying, I don't know if LeFleur should be fired. I don't know what he's doing is wrong.
Maybe he is. Maybe there's a different guy out there. Football is just a different sport as far as like you said with baseball. Like somehow in baseball, Pat Murphy. It's getting the most Absolutely.
Two years ago, getting an absolute maximum out of these guys. The question is, do you think LaFleur is getting the absolute maximum out of his guys? No, the question is if If Matt LaFleur had Pat Murphy's demeanor... And Pat Murphy had Matt LaFleur's demeanor. The Packers would have won a Super Bowl.
And the Brewers would be playing in Nashville.
Okay. Yeah. So what do you mean by that? Like demean demeanor. I mean like if If Matt LaFleur Was like with the brewers like Hey, so we got the Cubs coming to town, guys.
Just You know, really try your hardest and Go out there and get them. And Murphy would be like They were up 21 to 3 and they lost. I don't need to give you a laundry list of why LaFleur should be fired. They were up 21-3 on the road against the Bears and they lost. But you know what?
Here's what people will be saying about Murphy. If this wasn't working, They'd be saying, God, he's just too nice. He just compliments every player. Murphy? He doesn't even know half these guys' names.
You give them nicknames. He's calling Durbin happy Durban. He gives them with Murphy, you know, baseball is just a different sport, of course, but it's like Murphy gives these guys nicknames. He throws his weight behind all these guys, right? Yeah, if you're in that locker room, he's going to die for you.
Yes. You know the guys he likes and he know the guys he really likes. On that theme. You can just tell. You know.
But with LeFleur, I mean there's fifty. 53 guys in that roster, right? Yeah, so I don't know.
Something we stumbled upon last night comparing the Teams again was Because I I was talking about Packers and Brewers and Um I tried something yesterday. tweeted something positive and no one gave a shit.
So I say something negative and, you know, talk of the town. Positive, no one cares.
So I said that. I think, I think, Mark. I think Mark's a good owner for the Brewers. I think I think overall Atenasio is a good owner. He's got no equal, though, in this state.
We don't have the ability, we don't have anyone to compare him to. Because the Packers don't have an owner. Right, besides me, we see we see Jerry Jones, we see. You know, the Ursa family. We see the Davis family.
We see all these guys. We know what an owner is. We don't have one for the Packers. The Bucs have owners. We never talk about them.
We never talk about them. Not anymore. Eden's is never criticized. Jimmy Haslam is an owner in our state. And it's like he's not.
Oh, I feel like he does still get criticism. But anytime there's something on Twitter regarding him, it's like, oh, boy. But we should be we should be like On a general strike to get Jimmy Haslam's influence away from the Milwaukee Bucks. But all of our owner anger Arrows are pointed at Mark. Because he's like the only one we know as a true owner.
Okay, can you see the same thing?
Now you're saying Antonasio, and I'm not disagreeing here. But aren't Brewers doing what the Packers are doing? They're getting to the postseason and then not going any further than that? Exactly. But for the Brewers, that makes sense.
For the Packers, it doesn't. Why? For the Brewers, you are hamstrung a bit by the. Financials of the league, you're right about that, yeah. And the Packers don't have that, I get the Brewers.
They need to win 80 to 95 games a year. They need to keep fan interest. If there's two to three years of apathy, you remember like 15 and 16. When Council had taken over for Reneke and it was just dog shit, and like Jason Rodgers was playing third base. Yeah.
Remember that shit? Yeah. Logan Schaefer's out there. I can go even further back than back to the 90s when it was really bad. Oh yeah.
Jeff D'AMICO throwing 87. Yeah. So it's been bad. But they have to operate in that window. The Packers don't.
The Packers can afford. They can afford to like. I just don't I feel like they're I feel like their bites of the apple strategy. But I don't think you should be doing that if you're the Green Bay Packers. I feel this too.
I feel like other baseball teams are. who the Brewers are competing against aren't that good. The B Alcia. I mean, if you if you look back, some of these teams just aren't very good. The Brewers playing them in baseball.
Some of these teams are just not very good. The Brewers are, but I think. Their level of play maybe is enhanced a little bit because some of these other teams, just, I'm sure the Mets, I mean, the Mets came in here. You know, but last summer, and I'm like, man, these guys are walking the one soda, and some of these guys are walking around the clubhouse like they're 10-time world champions. Yeah.
We got a bunch of guys of the brewers who are 5'7 ⁇ . Sweeping a three-game series from them. And now we're trading them away for guys that are 5'6. Mm-hmm. Fuck are we doing here?
I don't know. Bananas jumped in the chat. If you want to talk to Banana, what do you got for Freemason's player? Mr. Freemes, love seeing you.
We miss you.
Well, I'm still on. I'm still around. I know, I know. Every time I drive past Lemira going up 41, I point out to my fiancé: that's where Freemes lives. Oh, there we go.
Yep, yep, yep.
Sometimes you'll see me there. Yes. What do you think of this, Bart? accurate for you? Salty?
Salty. I think misunderstood banana.
So, wanted to circle back quick, boys. On the shape, what in the name of Sally Jesse Raphael are you fucking wearing? Those are amazing shots. I wear them all the time. I can tell you're not listening to my podcast.
Where the fuck did you buy those? From Sally Jesse Rothiles Estate Sale. No, I will only listen to your podcast if the video makes me see those fucking frames. Yeah. What are you wearing?
These are glasses. What? I feel like you're going to fight an alien horde. Jesse Raphael. I never thought of it.
See, now that's the stuff. Where was this 10 years ago? The stuff I'm talking about. This is missing from Milwaukee Radio. You're a genius comedic.
Yes. I know. And I miss Chuck, you getting mad at him or fake mad on the air and going, Jesus player. I miss that. That dynamic.
No, you know what? Nothing is fake. I mean, I think you guys know me long enough. None of it's right. I'm the same.
Son of a bitch, I've always been. I am on the off the air as I am on the air. Yep. I'm the same son of a bitch I always am. Not everybody's that way.
I quote that line like it's from a movie. What's up? You told me once, I'm the same son of a bitch I've always been, player. Did I say that on the ear? No, you just said it to me, probably, when I told you I wanted to fight you.
Okay. Yeah, we did that a few A few times. Not actually fought. Quick question for you, Bart. As you're on your Makeup Infrastructure Week tour.
Have you offered any golden saddle tongues to anyone to get them on your podcast? Is that a sexual thing? I don't know what that means. No, no, no. A little coleslaw, a little salad, going fleeing in the air.
Wait, I'm part of infrastructure week. No, no, no, no, no. We don't have any infrastructure to repair. No, no, no. Bert and I are cool.
Not you, not you. Oh, he has to say. No, we don't work. The midday, the statewide, you know. That guy.
You don't. He doesn't like me, deservedly. There's one guy I understand. It's him. Because you came after Bill many times.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's history there.
So I'm I understand that one. Bill Jeff is cool about that. He he is, yeah. Because he could easily with one punch. Yes.
Yeah. That would be quite the interesting I like Bill personally, and I like him. I like him professionally. Bill and I have always been good.
Well, yeah. Yeah, you're good with everyone, though, Freemes. Not necessarily. I can say names and names. Oh, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Especially this punk that came up into being. Two years ago. Yeah. Anything else, Banana? Yeah, I wanted j I actually wanted to touch back on what you guys were actually just talking about legitimately a moment ago before I popped on about the baseball versus football situations.
So, yeah, the outcomes are the same, but the economics of baseball versus Basketball versus football are three different things. You have no cap, no floor right now in baseball.
So I begrudgingly agree about Mark and the fact that his. Matt Arnold and David Stearns before that have done a great job in terms of with the limited resources they've had building that pipeline to be successful because otherwise we'd be stuck in Jeff D. Meekle hell all over again. And two, I do not like Haslam owning a share of the box at all. I've hated it since the moment it was announced.
I agree. I agree with you on that banana. It's terrible. And I think that he's been, he's one of the reasons why Doc's still around. I could pretty much guarantee you that.
And that's a big problem. And he's has he ever like talked? Here, but now I'm gonna let you go, but it's good to see. Yeah, I'm gonna drop up. Thanks, guys.
Love ya. Has Haslam ever talked? Like to the media here? Even in town, has he ever been to a game? Is it possible Aaron Rodgers owns more of a stake in the Bucks than Jimmy Haslam?
Okay. When I first heard about Haslam coming to the Milwaukee Bucs, the Bucs kind of downplayed that. Right? That is really like. And it's like, or does he have a bigger part than we want to say, and they just don't want to say?
I don't know. That that's probably like, um, you know, the Bucks Why do you want to celebrate when somebody shitty comes to town? I'd be like if We came back to SSP. Would there even be a press release? Yeah.
Yeah. I think if the right people were in charge there. There should be a fucking parade for us. Do you think there's any... People that think highly of their time together than you and me.
Like more highly Like, what do you mean?
Well, obviously, we think we're the B's and E's, and we think our show was incredible. You know, we had a fun time. Yeah, we had our moments, but we had a good run. Again, you can't argue with the run that we had. And I'm not saying.
The run is over, you never know in this business. But I feel like my run's pretty much over. I don't think I'm going to be on radio. Who's hiring me?
Well, you don't know that. Hmm. You don't know that. We can get off of this. Right now, and all of a sudden you could hear.
Like I said, I thought When SSP was being reconstructed, 1250. I thought they'd ask you back. Because you're on better terms of The guy who's in charge of that in Chicago. I thought maybe he would he was going to bring you back. I I'm stunned that he didn't.
I don't want to be any part of this. Oh wow. You I was I was on the one shot for a while. Yeah, you look good. But um yeah, I We're down to two sports radio stations.
One for sure we're not going to ever be on.
So which I'm okay with. I'm not. I talked to someone from there once. Yeah. I found out later it was just because.
They were so Perplexed how big of an asshole I was. They needed to meet me in real life, and then I was like a nice guy, and they're like, oh, fuck. What? Yeah. So you went in for an actual date.
No, a little coffee situation. And they wanted to talk to you about. And then you never buy life. And then you never get fired. The vertical laid off.
What's that? After I got laid off the first time.
So they talk to you and they never That guy just wanted to talk to me.
Well. And they never followed up on it.
Well, he wanted to meet, I think he wanted to meet me like I was a sideshow act.
Well, I think what it was is, it could have been this. You know, you always said that you got to hate you to like you. And maybe that was only a first impression. They didn't like you, but then. The guy needs to come back and.
You told me that. Right. You got to hate me to like me. That's right.
Well, I make a bad I think we're both in that category. Yeah. I make a bad first impression. I don't think I'd make a great first impression either. Your second and third aren't that good either.
Well, I try. I try, but you know what? If someone, here's the thing is, I'm nice to people. who are good and all that. But if you're going to be a jackass.
Yeah. You're messing with the wrong guy. How did five for frames work? Should I do one quick off the top of my dome? How did that work?
I just asked you questions. Yeah, you asked me, yeah, you asked me five random questions. Do do you have five random questions? What a lazy segment. This whole show?
No, no, no. Five for frames.
Now Do you have five questions? Or are you just see, I forgot all about them. I'll play some little generic streamyard music.
Okay. I just asked you any questions. Yeah. You know what? If we were doing a show together in the morning.
Maybe I have to come in with these. I ain't wearing my contacts really to boring. I would buy you different glasses. Not not I I can't I could I wouldn't be able to focus if you're wearing those. I mean, Jesus.
Okay, go ahead.
Alright, five for frames. Um Oh goodness. How about Over, under. Five and a half months. Um No, I don't wanna.
Is Giannis gonna sign another extension? That's where I'm getting at. Is he gonna sign another extension?
Well, I was totally with you when you were just bashing these national guys. They just wanted, I mean, how they are. They just can't wait to move our guys out. And I focus mostly on the brewers with my. Locked on Brewer's pocket.
They were like crying about getting Giannis out of here the same way that they cry to try to get Alabama into. They were like, they were like trying to. Argue for it like there was some committee that was going to be swayed by it. It was fucked up. I agree.
Just like when the national guys wanted to trade. Wanted the Brewers to trade Freddy Peralta when they were in the wild. They weren't in the division league, yeah, but they were in the wild card chase. And all these Napshaw guys at the brewery was trading Freddy Peralta. It's like, what?
Well then they did, but Well, they did in the offseason, but you weren't going to do it during a pet race. Because the thing with Giannis is, I know he gave another interview this week. I just stopped looking at him.
Well, here's the deal. He may say he wants to stay. But does his agent say something else? Because we focus on saying, well, the Giannis says he wants to stay.
Well, Of course, he's got to say that it's up to the agent. The agent's going to be the bad guy here, right? Is that that Alex Saratis guy? Right, the agent's the bad guy. Do you have any other clients that aren't related to Giannis?
I don't know. But I think that's the way it works out, right? The agent probably tells Giannis: hey, you put on a good front. You say you want to stay. I'll be the guy doing all the other.
negotiating and all that, but Yale is going to continue to say, and you know, he wants to win. Five. Here's the deal. If the Bucs were going to trade Giannis. And he says, well, I want to go to the Knicks.
Okay, we'll trade you to the Knicks. But just so you know, we're going to want this piece, this piece, this piece back.
So if you're going to the Knicks, you ain't playing with those guys. What? Well, yeah, that's what the Bucs wanted.
So I think that's why you I think that's why he didn't get traded too, because. The pieces in return.
Well, that's who Giannis wanted to play with. Right? I agree. Uh so does he sign another contract? I think so.
I don't think he's gonna finish his career here like none of these guys do. Um I think he eventually does. I don't. I do think they're going to probably trade him in the offseason. I don't believe the staff injury he's got.
I don't buy that one bit. I don't buy it at all. No, no. Two non-contact. Come on.
And it was, come on, no, no. I don't buy it at all. I feel like they were putting him on the shelf. And then, you know what? If they would have traded him.
Because nobody talked about, well, why would a team trade for Giannis because he's damaged goods? Everybody knew that he was not damaged goods. Right? But then no one's saying like... The Bucks need to trade him, but what are you going to get?
You're not getting more than three first. What the fuck? Yeah, well, nobody said, well, how could you trade Giannis? He's hurt. No, he's not hurt.
I mean If Yannis If Giannis would have been traded to the Knicks, he would have been playing right now.
So you think he's crazy this offseason? I think probably in the offseason. I think he signs another deal. I think um When he's like 34 After the end of the deal, he goes and plays in whatever NBA Europe league they've got. made at that time.
For a couple years for Greece. Then I think he comes back here. To the States to play for like the Knicks or somebody. For like a season, like he's Reggie White on the Carolina Panthers. Why would he need to go to Greece and play?
I think he wants to play for in his home country. And take a financial loss?
Well, I think the NBA 'cause silver wants this NBA Europe thing to get off the ground So they're gonna say you think Kelsey's paying you a lot of money under the table. Yeah. I think Giannis, you know, he'll eventually get traded, but. Eventually I was jersey retired here. And it'll be just like the Aaron Rodgers, what's going to be the Aaron Rodgers eventually, and Brett Favre, it'll be one of those things.
Yeah, I think he's going to get traded. in the offseason. I thought really at the trading deadline that was going to happen. It was great that he wasn't. They have an 8% chance.
To make the playoffs. I think that's They're not going anywhere.
Now question number two. If the Bears Seriously build a stadium in Indiana. Bears fans are exempt from ever being able to make fun of the Packers again for anything ever of all time. God, that's just so odd that they'd be playing in Hammond, Indiana. They can't.
They can't fucking do that. Got the big city of Chicago and they can't. Figure that out.
So obviously outbid by Hammond, Indiana? The Jets and Giants play in Jersey, and the Niners play like an hour south longer.
So obviously there's some of that. Foxborough is a half hour away from Boston, but you know, it's branded as New England. I get it. If you're the Bears though. You have to play in Illinois.
And what if, like... If they go to Indiana, Indiana's got a team, the Colts. If the Colts were an NFC North team, they could not do this, right? They would not think about it, right? I don't think so, but it's funny that.
Northwest Indiana is almost considered a part of Illinois.
Well, yeah, but then again, so is Racine. You're right. You're right. So why don't they come play in Racine where the fucking. Raiders play.
Put it in let him play in Horlick Field. Yeah. Play it or not. I don't think they're going I don't know. What happened to Arlington Heights?
I haven't been following that as closely, but I thought they were going to Arlington Heights. I don't know. Uh apparently they also jack season ticket sales up like twenty percent, so The Bears get this one season and they're back at it. Yeah. Back in it.
Uh question number three. Why don't you just tell me the question you want me to ask you? I think this might just be two for breeze. Come on. All right.
Question number three. Will Shaka Smart ever win a tournament game at Marquette? Uh he might win a Big yeast game again. I don't think Daka Smart is going to be long-term at Marquette, and here's why. I've heard the NBA scouts really like Shaka Smart.
I could see Shaka becoming either an assistant or a head coach in the NBA someday. I really do. I just don't think Barquette Why don't we just trade Shaka and Doc? There's a package deal? Like Shaka coaches the Bucs and Dot can go back to Marquette.
Well Have you ever seen anyone less interested in their job than Doc Rivers? As an NBA coach, though, what can you do, right? Are you really, can you be as creative as you are in college? No, the players run that team. I suppose I know college NBA coaching.
Again, it's all about. The Jimmies and Joe's, I always say. Less about the coaching. Although there's a couple of coaches who are difference makers, I think Murphy with the Brewers is a difference maker there.
Some you know, he's getting the most out of those guys. What? Um Is there any other coach that would replace Doc Rivers come in here and? Would they be any better? I mean, let's just.
If we're going to go with the doc theme, bring Dr. Dave down from the stands and he can. Do his little wave thing. The rivers are terrible. Yeah, we're not.
There's no outcry to fire him because we know the Bucs aren't gonna. He's won an NBA champion a long time ago. He's won an NBA championship, but he's. If Doc left and if he wanted to coach again, he'd get another job somewhere, probably. Maybe a front office job.
Alright, question four then. Who's Uh living in the past more. Doc Rivers with his 2008 NBA Championship. or Chuck and Winkler with their 2017 WBA Award.
Well, we want more than that, didn't we? I don't know, that's the one on my wall. Um The WBA have been there the last couple of years, as I noted earlier. They do a great job. Here it is.
That's a great banquet. Dusty and everything. All my other ones are. Up there. I got mine in the background.
But I thought I had some people sign this. Right in the back, right? Didn't you right in the back? Didn't you have somebody sign it? I had I think this is I thought there was my mom signed it.
I thought there were multiple awards like that. That's not the only one. I got a thing of plaques. I got a couple of these. Oh, the second place ones.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Um all right, so the answer is Doc. Doc, Andrew, and I. We'll call it a tie. All right, and then question number five.
If you and I Overnight. We're still our personality. But we woke up as women How quickly would we be hired in sports radio in Milwaukee? Oh, I'm not answering that question. This I'll pass on that one.
I'm passing on that one. All right, not gonna get me to go down any road any political road All right, then I'll tweak the question. Who would look better as a woman, me or you? You're halfway there with those fucking glasses. Yeah, probably me, right?
Glasses? I'm Sally Jussey Raffiol, and you're listening to the TalkNet. That's where she started off. See on TMJ radio. Talk net, she was on.
And then she'd got, she was on a radio show, and then she would, a radio network, and then she was on TV. Here's a lesson. You think we'd ever, when we, okay. Politics is obviously bigger now than it was back then. And Parker also politics.
I would say I would, I would, I would tweak it and say it's more of like a mainstream conversation point. I feel like people today watch. Follow politics like you know, like you and I would watch. Follow sports or a sports fan will follow sports. I feel like people follow politics like sports.
Where are you going with this player? Oh, in 2020. When you and I stopped doing shows together, I think since then Politics has escalated where it's become that. It's become. Almost like sports where people follow it in that vein.
But I'm saying, We would never Do you think those politics would ever enter in our show? I think, yeah, I think they would have if we kept doing a show, yeah.
Okay. Yeah. Interesting.
Well, I would I wouldn't have been able to handle a lot of things. Yeah. All right, we won't even talk about it. You'd be like, Why has Bart been off for a week? I don't know.
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You know who I ran into? I ran into Dan O'Donnell. Yeah, I like Dan. Dan's a nice guy. I've ran into him.
In the same building. Yeah. And I said, Hey, Dan, how you doing? I saw him at a soccer game. Yeah.
And uh He goes, oh yeah, he said, you look different than you do on Twitter, first of all, he said. And then I said. Um Yeah, I got laid off again, you know, whatever. He goes, Oh, that's that sucks. Tough business.
He goes, What do you think? We should do a right-wing, left-wing sports? Podcast. Oh, that'd be great. And then I said, uh, I said Who would be the left-wing guy?
We're both on the right. And then Dan's like, what? And I'm like, ah, just kidding, you fucking idiot. You have fighters. People will mention, oh, I listened to this person, this person.
And I'd be like, well, you know, I don't really listen to their show, but I know them as people. But I don't Listen to their show or follow them on the radio. I listen to radio. I'm on the same time. Oh, did you see this?
Well yeah, I never see them on radio or T V 'cause usually we're on or I don't Watch them. My wife will get a lot of like Dan O'Donnell, but I've off the air, and I'm not saying he does a bad show because he, you know, he does his thing, but off the air, very friendly with him. Yeah. He he initiated a hug. A bro hug?
Yeah, we like hugged. Wow, you and I don't even do those. Yeah, well, you wouldn't let me touch you. That's bothered me. I know where your hands have probably been.
Already this morning, twice. Oh, geez. Yeah. That's my five. I think that's my five.
I think that's the episode. There we go. It was fun. It was fun doing it. I don't know what we got accomplished.
Did we.
Well, you came on, and somebody asked me today: so, well, what are you, Bart, going to talk about? And I say the same thing if I was going to be on with Wicked or Bill Michaels or whatever. Don't even have, don't need an agenda. Just come on and. wherever it goes.
I don't know if you guys know this. Chuck could work with anybody. He could work with a grape if he had to.
Well, yes. You always say that. I don't know how to get it. I told you that. Yeah, I could work with a grape.
Or a broom. A broom? A broom. I can work with a broom. What about a bipolar hothead like me?
How many years did we do it? Five? Chuck, I think we've been off the air longer than we've been on. No, is that what it is?
Well, like I said People still talk about us. They don't talk about people that they don't like or that don't make an impact, right? Like I said, if you and I walked, and I'm not blowing our own horns here, if we walked. I mean, you are. Thou Mayfair Mall or Ampham Field or Fiserve or wherever.
Down Broad Street in Greendale, Wisconsin, my hometown. People would say, oh, yeah, those guys right there, I used to listen to them all the time. My childhood, right there, those guys. And yet, I did an event for the Fond du Lac Doc Spiders in a town where I grew up, and not a single person knew who the fuck I was.
Okay. Really? Yeah, Final Lax is a different world now, dude. I don't know anybody there.
Okay. Yeah. Odd. I talked to Nick a little bit, Van Nocker. He knew who you were.
Mm-hmm. Well yeah.
Well, he said on the air KFIZ Legend. And I said, well, he was actually on 107.1. I was on both. Oh, you were? Yeah.
I did breakfast clubs. I did the news, I did the old bits, I did games. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought you were just the morning guy in the Halloween party. I just thought you were the morning guy at 107.1.
Bart in the morning. Oh, I did a lot on KFIZ. People fad a lot. Mornings with Bart, Chuck. Come on.
Foduck has changed. But a lot of the people are still there. There's a lot of good people there. Really good people in Fadilac.
So Fond du Lac. When I was there. Like working. At the radio station, you talk to a lot of these people from the community. And It's great to come back and see because there was a lot of like We want to do this to the downtown.
We want to do this. We have this idea. We have this. And a lot of their ideas. have happened.
So when you go downtown now, it's like, wow, I can't believe that beer company I was at was great. Yeah. Like the downtown looks. Like it's really come along. The problem was.
It seems like the downtown sucked all the other things from the rest of the. You drive down Johnson Street, you're like, When did the war end here? What year?
Well, if you drive down Johnson Street. Literally everything. That was there probably when you were in high school is probably gone or the building was. Though the mall is gone The Home Deeple that was open for six months still fucking stands. How does it all how does that Yeah.
I was at Home Depot only last six months at a town like Fondilac. Because the most fond du Lac thing ever. We're not shopping at Home Depot. I'm already going down the street to mean ours. I didn't realize people in Faudalike had southern accents.
We're north.
Well, I'm on I'm on the west side of the track.
Okay. Yeah. I'm over by like Seymour and Ruggles. That's where I'm talking from.
Okay. Yeah, by Taylor Park.
So there's a southern accent there? Yeah. Okay. And finally. Oh, sure.
Did not know that. Yeah. That that's the most fun like thing ever. And uh besides a new restaurant. Anytime there's a new restaurant, like the whole town takes off of work and goes there the first day.
Well, here's the deal about some of the restaurants in town here, some of these newer places. There was a time when you could Mm. You'd go to a place on a Wednesday night, you'd be the only person in there.
Now there's a place I go to. Schmitty's You go there Wednesday nights, you got to put your name on the list. Is that like a wing night or something? No, it's like a pizza night, but it's a who's who. But you could have had that 30 years ago and.
You wouldn't have had a waiting list through when was there ever a waiting list for any place in Fond du Lac? But now it's changed. There's a few places like that. You're talking you're telling me Schmitty's is a velvet rope now? Yeah.
But are they always like, chunk, come on in? I always talk with the guy at the kid who's Said, I don't want one of those high tops over there. What do I have to do to get one of those high tops? Yeah. Yeah.
Does that work out pretty good? Still waiting my 45 minutes. And then you run up a bar tab. That's the gimmick, right? What do I have to do to get all those high tops, player that line?
Extends outside by the rocks, there. Yeah, it is. It's It's but that's good. Businesses are thriving. That's great to see.
Like I said. Even like on a Sunday. Go to a place on a Sunday. Usually you go to any restaurant, you eat right in. Sundays, sometimes these places are packed.
Which is great. People are out and about doing stuff. Yeah, sure. Fondlack economy is a harbinger of the world economy, some say. There we go.
Some say, well, I think that's good. I mean, I could still talk to you about Fonda Light for another 80 minutes. Sure, but we would have all these people that are on right now would all drop off because nobody's from FondaLike but you and I. Oh, Tyler says Forrest Mall in middle school was elite. Yeah.
Little Walden books. Little Aladdin's castle. Wallet books. I remember that, yes.
Well, you'd go there. Who's the restaurant in there? Oh, there wasn't there a Chinese restaurant in there? Oh, there's one with like wooden doors. It was just always full of cigarette smoke.
Oh, that was way at the end by the old Yonkers, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I don't remember. No, I don't remember.
Like, you could walk in there, and if the person was tall enough, you wouldn't see their head anymore. Yes. Because the smoke covered them like fog. No, you're right. I don't remember the name of the place.
But it turned into a Chinese that place eventually turned into a Chinese restaurant. Yeah. But I mean, you go in there at the five nine. I know it's taken down now, but like. In the last year, it was.
35 claw machines and you know, households country goods or some shit.
Well, I. I was sad. You could tell that the like malls everywhere. It's like I even go to Southridge Mall. And I grew up going to Southbridge Mall, riding my bike to Southbridge Mall.
On a Friday or Saturday, I was like, God, there's nobody here. It's closing at eight o'clock. During Christmas time. I know. Now the only mall that's thriving in Milwaukee is really Mayfair.
Right. Malls are going to make a comeback. I hope they do. Yeah. I hope they do.
I have uh Can I show you a 20 second video? Sure. Is that a bus? No, it's of me. Oh.
Not as good. You got that look on your face and I'm. The arc to something. No, no, no, no. I thought it was a little longer.
Uh oh. Um Hold on, I gotta. I went to the Fond du Lac Mall. This is June of 2017.
Okay, I'll share my screen with you. It's on my YouTube. Uh if you'd like to check it out. All right, you see there? I'm gonna have to put the glasses back on again.
Put them on. Um. Want to like more? Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Oh, God. June of 2017. I remember it was Saturday at noon. Is that the view from Coles, which is still standing.
Uh this is inside the center court. Black mall at noon. On a Saturday. Yeah. Wow.
There's no one here. Yeah. We just roll down these stairs and nobody will care. Did they have any more cops? Look at that point.
Wasn't really a multi cap there. Any mall cops? Yeah. Wasn't there a mall cop there at all? I'm really sure I was the only one in there at the time.
Yeah. Whereas, again, on a Saturday night or a Friday night, because we'll go to Kohl's. She's always has her Kohl's cache that she wants to use. We'll go to Coles and. I'll be like, man, there were a time on a Friday or Saturday night, this place would be packed with people.
Saturday afternoon. They'll be at the Coles parking lot, but obviously there's no mall there anymore. Oh, I heard TJ Max even closed down. What? In Fontenac?
Yeah. It's always packed. Why would it shut down? Yeah, and I didn't realize Applebee's turned into a fucking IHOP. How about that?
Now, when I first moved to town, Applebee's was like the place to go. You'd go there and you'd see people standing outside. If I'm the CEO of Applebee's and I learn that Fond du Lac, Wisconsin is out on me. I'm doing chapter 11. I mean, West Ben isn't around either.
And they're a third. Like the one at Southridge To go back to that, that one's not there anymore. I mean, is Applebee's even a thing anymore? I don't know. I drove by on Port Washington and um Glendale, the Perkins became a crab shack, and now there's a big bulldozer in the middle.
Well, the lone Perkins that's available, and they used to sponsor us. Is I think there's one in Oshkosh and there's one in Green Bay. Yeah. The good old days, little BBB. The good old days.
Man, I I love their breakfast. They were very nice to us. Last time I was with you at a Perkins, it didn't go so well, but other than that.
Well, we had a meeting with our boss that day. That guy. Jesus. Yeah. I knew I was I knew I knew we were done.
Even before COVID. Supposedly, we had the worst show on the radio station. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Good to see you, buddy.
I think until Parker left. I'll be out until Parker left. I mean, when Parker was there, we were f. Our old boss, that station was cooking. Mm-hmm.
And then we had one little c piece of competition and we fucking sucked. No, I see. Dave was first in the ratings. Just ask him. Or don't.
He'll tell you. Ooh. Yes. Zame's always like, we took over the ratings there as fast as Howard Stern did in Philadelphia. No, I don't know about that.
I reached out to him. Oh. Well, you guys went back and forth for a while. He's my white whale. I want to get him on.
But he won't. I'm 0 for one. Try again. Who else are you trying? I don't know.
Do I really want to talk to these people even? What's the What's the point unless you're trying to get a job there, I guess? Yeah, I don't want to talk to these people. Fucking they fucking hate me. Fucking hate myself.
Anyway, remember, back then, though, when you're coming after some of those people, I said, man, you can't be warned you. You'd be like, Bart, you don't want to take the flamethrower and just go, but you just kept on doing it. I don't care. I don't give a fuck.
Now here we are. But you know what? Bobby Heenan, I heard one say this. He said about somebody being employed at the WWE. He said, you could be the most miserable person in the world.
But if you could make Vince A buck, he'd hire you in a second. Hey, not that shit. You are. Right. We'd feed families, Chuck, if we came back.
You know, it's funny when I and I. Although the fact that some people are like, I listen to you guys as kids, I think we can take our hint that we ain't coming back. I don't know about that. No, we weren't on the air 25 years ago. Uh It's funny when I wanted to go over to when I first came over to 97.3.
I had all these People who were my sponsors at 1250 that were going to come aboard. Bye. They didn't approach it correctly and they didn't get any of them. They got one. And, but it's like, I wasn't going to be on the air over there.
So why? You know, they wanted me to do a 60 second with some of the frames and These sponsors are like, what? No, we want them doing a whole show.
Well, then we'll sponsor. Mm. Yeah. So But Hey, that's just the way. You know, this business isn't a way.
Well, I'm not coming back to the radio if it's without, unless it's with you. I don't believe you one second. And I think we are, I think you are, I think we could both come back. We could. I'm not writing it.
Believe me or not, that's what I'm going to say because A. Ain't nobody hired me anyway.
So, by saying that, B, it makes me look good to you. Yeah. Yeah, but I know the truth. Thank you. I think if Sparky was in charge at 1250, I'm probably saying stuff I shouldn't be saying.
I think we'd be with that. That I'm saying stuff I shouldn't be saying. I don't know. Who cares? But do you think it's I think Sparky was in charge?
He's like the assistant.
Well, and I love Sparky. I've always got along great with Sparky. I think if he was the guy, and I heard that new president there, that company, the guy who's in the building, seems to be bringing things back. Um yeah. But there's probably another guy in Chicago who would balk at it.
I'm going to pick you up right now. And we're going to go to Hale's Corners and we're going to say. Here we are. What do you want to do with us? You ready?
I'd be all aboard that. They'd call the cops, they'd call the Hail Scorners cops on us. I'm gonna have the feds at my door. Chuck Freeman. This is great.
Love you, buddy. Say it. You're the best, man. Don't get your, hey, keep your chin up. Yeah, my chin's already buried.
Keep your chin up, man. Keep your chin up. Keep your chin up. Chuck Freeman, and thank you to all of you for stopping into the Winklerverse. LifeLock, how can I help?
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