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February 9, 2026 8:35 am

The Patriots' Super Bowl victory was a Cinderella story, with a team that was not expected to make it to the championship game. The Seahawks' loss was a surprise, but the Patriots' win was a testament to their ability to adapt and overcome. Meanwhile, in the NBA, Giannis' partnership with Kelchie has sparked controversy, and the Brewers' trade of Caleb Durbin has left fans reeling.

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Welcome into the Winklerverse. I am Bart Winkler. It is great to be with you here tonight. Post Super Bowl. And post-football.

And now what? We've got baseball coming up. That's interesting. Eventually, we'll have. uh Fake games.

Although I do get into the WBC, I do get into the World Baseball Classic. Uh happy to admit that. as well into the Olympics. I was watching some gold zone. Before I retreated into the basement, this is our national perspective show, Carlos Ortiz.

Will join us momentarily. Also, from the Infinity Sports Network, RIP EJ Stewart should be on with us later this hour.

So, we'll talk a lot about the Super Bowl, of course. I just wanted to first acknowledge. The very heavy news. That is happening in our neck of the woods. And that is that Caleb Durbin has been traded.

Caleb Durbin. Who stepped into the Winklerverse? Not just a few short weeks ago. has been traded. to the Boston Red Sox.

The Brewers essentially Have nobody to play third. Until they figure out who exactly that is going to be. They've traded Caleb Durbin. Andrew Monasterio. And Anthony Siegler, basically everyone that's played third for them, and a round beast selection to the Red Sox.

For Kyle Harrison? Who seems to be the centerpiece of the deal? 24-year-old lefty, Shane Dronin. Another pitcher, Lefty, and then an infielder, David Hamilton.

So I don't know. They just. uh made that trade last week or the Freddy trade so maybe I don't know. They're reshaking the infield deck. But what that means is Caleb Durbin.

Friend of show. Has been traded. Crushing news. For the Fond du Lac Doc Spiders. Crushing news.

For The Winkler Verse Carlos Ortiz. The Doc Spiders? Is that a team you just said? Yeah, the Fonda like Doc Spiders. That's funny.

Yeah, absolutely crushing below. I saw the trade news. Yeah, thank you. I saw the news. I was just like.

Didn't Milwaukee just get Durbin? Didn't they just like get him from the Yankees and like bark? Just interview him, so yeah, I thought the timing couldn't be any more better. Um, considering you literally just spent time with him. I just talked to him, I'm like, I finally got an inn with the brewers.

And Milwaukee knew that. And they're like, nope, we can't have this guy close to us. Let's go ahead and ship him off to Boston. One of my buddies was like, Did you get him traded? I'm like, it's hard not to feel like I didn't.

It really feels like you're responsible for this. Yeah. I mean, some town hates me and the one guy that I like. No, get to know is traded immediately. And that's a big blow.

Yes, the Fond du Lac Dock Spiders. Yeah. He's somebody that played. For their Northwoods League team. And so it's an hour away from Milwaukee.

They're able to do, they have a bobblehead night, I think, this upcoming summer again. Sure. But they planned it around Milwaukee. It's just a mess. And when I was talking to Doc Spiders, they're like.

You know, we hope he doesn't get traded, but we feel pretty good he might not. No rough. Got traded.

So that is the news I wanted to start with. Uh Jake did send me a message. It's pretty rankler versus that for the Fond du Lac fans. He said Winkler versus He said Winkler verse more like Winkler curse. No.

Winkler curve.

Okay. Um Sorry, I wasn't no-selling you. My internet just jumped. Yeah, I was hoping it was that because otherwise, Jesus Christ, what are you even doing here? Yeah, it no, it is like freezing up a lot.

And I'm like, what? I'm like, oh. Not asking me for react. Hmm, this is great. And then Jake said to completely steamroll the joke: interview Doc Rivers next.

Yeah. I don't know. I'm like, do I need to leave and come back? It's never been this bad. You look good right now.

The other local news is The Bucs have a participant in the three-point shooting competition.

Next week. Nice. They also have a former player. In Damian Lillard. Who ripped apart his ACL, but is now good enough to take Some threes.

Yeah. That will be prior to the slam dunk competition. Featuring Carter Bryant. Kashad Johnson. Jackson Hayes and Jace Richardson.

Jace Richardson, I believe. I think Most of these guys in their career have Attempted single-digit dunks. Yeah. uh i think haze might be in like the 60s But Jace is on he's on the internet like Me? Like, why am I in this?

And then he's like, LOL, I guess, okay. See, there's. What we need to remember, and I talk about this with the Pro Bowl, and I talk about this with the All-Star game. And the slam dunk thing, a lot of times people don't want to do this. Yep.

But then you get like down the list far enough. Where even if a guy knows he's not deserving. Like Mizarewski had five starts. He shouldn't be in an all-star game, but You say no to that. Shadur Sanders shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl.

Tell him to say no. He's got Jace Richardson. He shouldn't be in the dunk contest, but shit. I can either be at this all-star weekend. Or not, fuck, I'll go do some stupid dunks.

Yeah. I mean, when you have guys like Mac McClung, who have been household names for the last couple of years, not getting to the dunk contest, I mean, this is what you're going to get. When Mac McClung was a household name for the dunk contest in the last five years, not going, you have to go with whoever's going to say yes. How is he not in it? Is he just it's t too much?

I don't know. I guess with his, you know, with his new lucrative contract, two-way contract with the Bulls, I guess he just couldn't find the time in order to participate this year. Maybe he just doesn't want to be looked at as just a dunker anymore. He wants to be able to prove that, hey, I could actually ball in this league. Good for Mac McClone.

The NBA came down with McClung poisoning. That's right. Uh what did you think of the big game? Yeah. Um, first half, I mean, I'm sure, like a lot of people, what a snooze.

Um, defensive battle, if you're into that kind of stuff. And I enjoyed watching, you know, um, the pass rushes for both teams kind of get after it. I mean, Sam Darnold, I think, obviously. You know, not really lighten up the scoreboard. He didn't have to.

The most important thing Sam Darnold didn't do was turn over the ball. He didn't commit an entire turnover this postseason.

So I thought he was brilliant. I mean, I'm glad, you know, Kenneth Walker. There were some that were close. Yeah, no, for sure. You know, there were a couple of passes that just sailed up there.

Like Christian Gonzalez could have had two picks. But he prevented two touchdowns. I mean, I thought the defenses on both ends played, you know, played very well, which is again why the first half was like. Kind of a snooze, but I appreciated it. Second half, obviously, was where it took off a little bit.

And This is. I think if you have been invested this season in the NFL, whether it's fantasy or just, you know, your team being eliminated, or you're just overall a casual slash die-hard football fan. You appreciated the outcome of yesterday's game, and you like how things unfolded in the second half. Being at Seattle should have won. Seattle was one of the best teams in the NFL all year, and they cement that with the redemption arc of Sam Darnold.

I truly appreciate it. And Again, if you are a football fan. You knew the Patriots got lucky. You knew the Patriots should not have been here. Drake may play like shit this entire postseason, but he kept getting passes because he married his high school sweetheart.

So we all love that. And what a cute story these plucky patriots are. Did you know the last time the Super Bowl was in that stadium, Drake May was there? Yes, because they kept talking about it every four years. You didn't know that?

Dude. I was listening to Westwood One's coverage, which shameless plug, I work for Westwood One Sports, but I was listening to their coverage on the way to my Super Bowl party. And I wish I could remember who the color guy was or the analyst was. He said that Drake May will have some familiarity, will be comfortable. Because he attended a Super Bowl in this stadium as a fan, and I'm like, are you kidding me?

I mean, because this guy rolled. Harlan on the call, because then that was Kurt Warner. Harlan was on the call, but it wasn't, it was the pre-shadow. It was whoever Scott Graham was with. And I don't want to drag him because I'm sure they do a good job, and we are technically teammates.

Well, what an asinine observation that Drake May is going to be comfortable at Levi Stadium because he went as a fan like 20 years ago. Fuck you. I mean, once I heard that, I immediately went. Seattle, four and a half. I went to Seattle six and a half, and I banged that one with the under on the first half, and I hit them both because it was just genius.

Uh, but yeah, all in all, it was a fine game, I think it was a good broadcast. Just I'm just so sick of hearing about all the Drake May stuff.

Now it's the overcorrection.

Now, all of a sudden, Drake May sucks. He's a Bozo. Should have been the first one. The truth is in the middle. He's a good quarterback.

I think he's got making to be a great quarterback. He still needs some talent around him, but the Patriots were lucky to be there. It was a good season for them. The best team won yesterday. I'm happy with the outcome.

They're calling Drake May the schedule. Yeah, I saw that. It's so funny. It's actually much better than Drake. Drake May, May nickname.

Drake May the schedule. He should honestly. He should be in the Patriots schedule release video when they do the social media. Lean into it. It'd be so funny.

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I want to tell you this because Last year. I had the game script down pretty good. With the Super Bowl. Yeah. Where the Eagles, if they were going to win that game, they had to blow them out.

Now, what I did not account for, this is, I'll tell this story a million times. Is I thought the Eagles were going to blow him out so bad. I found the biggest line I could. Eagles, 19-point favorite. They won by 18.

Yep. So it's not like I put tons of money on it. But the odds were great. I would have won lots of money. Yeah.

But instead I didn't buy A point. This year, I was kicking this around with Horbot last week, and I really think that I like.

Well, I got the spread wrong on this game. But I had the Seahawks as the winner, but I thought they'd end up winning like 28, 24. But the game script I had was low scoring first half. Yep. So I had some bets like under 14.5 points first half, under 11.5 points first half.

I had a bet, no score by either team in a quarter. Just missed that. Three, nothing, three, nothing, or six, nothing. But I thought it'd be slow to start just because, even though this is a different Patriots team, that's what they've done. I think this is like their eighth out of nine Super Bowls where they did not score a first quarter point.

That's just something this organization does. And then I thought they would score a bunch in the second half. Both teams. I had Mac Hollins the score. Did you?

Yeah. And then like I was Talking to Horvat like an hour before the game, he goes Fuck it. I'm throwing money on A.J. Barner first touchdown. Oh, wow.

Nice. Okay. I'll do that too. Horvat not being in, you know, more featured more off is criminal. I agree.

Absolutely criminal. Make sure you send that to him and then let him know I said that. I will.

So I was making some of my bets. On uh Kelsey.

Okay. Oh, what are you and Yannis going in as co-investors now? All right. Let me tell you something wrong with that.

So The pre here's why I'm so upset about Giannis being a part of this. The predictive markets They cannot be legal. No, they're such bullshit. Um They're circumventing the whole sportsbook shit because they're not considered a sportsbook. They're considering themselves like a stock market.

And sports betting in and of itself is kind of bullshit. Absolutely. It's the Wild West. But this is worse.

Now, where I've had more. Enjoyment out of this is You can cash out. You can make a bunch of money on a single game. Because it's, you know, trading with percentages.

So if the Bucks take a big lead. I'm gonna bet on the magic 'cause I know the Bucks will blow it, like tonight. Magic will come back. The odds will change. I'll cash out and then I'll say, okay, now I'll take the bucks.

Then the bucks go up 10.

Now I'm cash. I'm cashing out constantly instead of just placing a bet on the magic. To win.

So these. The predictive markets. Based on sports gambling, although there's some places you can cash out now, but that's that's what I've liked about it. Um Also I hate it.

Okay, I hate that I'm on there to begin with. I got on there because my buddy's crazy about Kelchie, yeah, crazy about it. And he's like, Look, you get 10 bucks. I'm like, fine. And he's explaining it to me what it is.

I go, I know what it is. I was psychotic last year. leading up to the presidential elections where I would check The polymarket Lines on all of the races. During work. Like multiple like during calls, I just Whenever I have eight seconds of not talking.

I would check it.

So I know how they work. But what I don't like about them is there's a lot of insider activity going on on these things. There was a guy who all of a sudden yesterday was like. Lady Gaga is going to be at this halftime show. And he made a wallet and he He had like 16 bets of who would and who would not be there.

And the only one he got wrong was Cardi B. He put no Because she wasn't going to be performing, even though she showed up as a cameo. Yeah. So it was like laying it. And she was peeing at soundtrack.

You know, and so that one came out the bag. But so Lady Gaga, I see all this Lady Gaga shit, and I'm like, she ain't fucking performing.

So I bet against it. Oh, even though the insta, like, even though I know I know it's gonna happen.

So then today, There's a new wolf that got made. That apparently the US is going to strike Iran. That eh?

So, look out for that. I think I want in on that action. This is the problem. We are able to bet on shit like that. Yeah.

They're betting on Venezuela. They're literally betting on the weather. They're betting on the weather. They're betting on wars. They're betting on a lot of shit that you shouldn't be betting on.

So, and a lot of shit that you can easily be an insider for.

So, when Giannis. After this. Like, I, as a Bucs fan, am just grinded down because of. 10 years of shobs doing this bullshit. You know?

But if you just look at it from like the last month. You're seeing Gianna say one thing. And then give quotes that he wants to be here forever. You're saying Gianna, say another thing, and then another report. The odds From an outsider perspective.

About what was going to happen with the Bucs at the trade deadline, had swings because of the things Giannis was saying. And the reports coming out around him. The day after the trade deadline. He announces a partnership with Kelsey. And then last night he was at the Super Bowl.

He was there. And they have a game in Orlando tonight, I think. Yeah, Orlando. It's like, it just doesn't feel, there's a lot going on with Giannis right now. It just doesn't feel like he is an NBA basketball player.

I think that's my problem with that. I think he's the perfect representation of what an NBA basketball player today is.

Now, it's almost, see, Giannis was a throwback. He was a throwback. Whereas he wanted to be a guy who wanted to stay in one team his entire career, wanted to beat the best. He wanted to win an NBA championship on his term with his guys and defy the super teams and not be a me guy. Where it's now, it's.

Brother, I'm going to go ahead and make sure that my name is in the dirt sheets. Make sure that I'm seen at these red carpet events. Make sure that people know where my money is going in terms of my investments. It's like, no, Giannis is now. He's now a modern-day NBA player.

Welcome to America, Giannis. About time you got here. I can understand. Why, if you're not a Bucks fan. You would look at Giannis as the bad guy in these sagas, because especially if you're somebody on a team that thought you were going to get him.

Yeah. and then it looks like he's ready to leave and then he's not you're like what the what the hell Yeah, what a tease. This g I look, I I don't I have like a weird.

So, if we were on, I still keep thinking about what would we do if we were on the air? Not me. I enjoy coming into work at uh 9.30 at night after a big dinner. Fighting traffic. Dude, I've been going to bed at like 10, 10.30.

Oh, it's so. I have not seen a two. Actually, I have not seen a two or three AM in the last. Couple of weeks, and I'm like, this is great. I mean, How was I staying awake this long?

I don't know. I kinda m I mean, I'm like I told you, I'm getting fatter though. Yeah, I weighed myself today. Once again, I have not gained a single pound. I have not lost a single pound.

Still stuck at 239, but I did have four slices of pizza and 28 wings, five beers. Along with a slice of cake, in the last 24 hours.

So ask me how I'm feeling by Wednesday. None beers, but I want to these, so. Oh man, that looks great. I wonder if you can get a promo code to save some of the. Oh, yeah, that's from Happy PlayStation: promo code Bart25.

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So, I mean, I can understand why people would like it, but I'm trying to figure out. Because I'm in such a Ghana supporter. If you don't like his actions over the last three months. That doesn't invalidate that Bucs fans have been getting pummeled with this for a decade. Yeah, for sure.

But nobody gives a shit. Nobody knows. The sexy story is where he's going to go. We've been talking about where he's going to go for. 10 years.

So he's with Kel She. I don't love it. Terrible look. Before we talk more about the game, you got the PR hat on. Were you proud of your boy last night?

You wanna give me like 60 seconds of runway here? I thought you watched the other one? I'll get there. I thought this was the most offensive and exploitative halftime show in history. Where does Bad Bunny get off using symbols of colonization in his performance?

This halftime show is supposed to represent Americans. Buy Americans. or Americans, not a bunch of I don't know even not a bunch of settlers. All right. Using sugar cane and jewelry as imaging.

Like, what are we doing? That's so 1900s. And his hippie haircut. Bro, Mark, did you see those sideburns? They look terrible.

Long flowing locks. Give me Johnny Unitas haircut.

Now that's the haircut you can set your watch to, all right? And Speaking in the 1950s. I thought we evolved as a society. How was that music last night? It was absolutely disgusting by not Mr.

Good Rabbit, okay? Sexually suggestive lyrics. Body movements like rubber legs and hip thrusting, he's like grinding the air. That's disgusting.

Okay. Is that what we're doing? No, thank you, sir. Give me a wholesome performer like Elvis any day. All right, he would never.

And how dare? You, Mr. Bunny. How dare you subject hardworking Americans? Men have faced.

To images of Carol G, Cardi B, and Jessica Alba. Dude, that was utterly distasteful, classless. I mean, thank goodness we had an alternate show headline by Middle Age Rock. And you want to know what the last draw for me, Bart, was you want to know the whole turning point of this whole halftime performance? The messages of love, unity, acceptance, and respect, togetherness.

I don't want that when I'm watching football. I want to see hate. Right? I want to see violence. It made me sick to see that.

I had to go put more ice in my cup. To cool off my drink, how upset I was. Worst halftime show ever. Ever. All right.

I didn't realize what you were doing. What do you mean what I was doing? I'm passionate about that. How they're bad bunnies like Thrust is, you know. genitalia around attractive women.

I won't stand for it. I was shitting on the notion that we needed a second halftime show. I couldn't find it. I was just curious to like. I was curious where people were going to see that.

Cause I, you know, I was on Twitter. Like, listen, I was locked into the performance. It was a lot of things. And all joking aside. It wasn't my all-time favorite halftime performance.

But it was up there just because, personally, for me, I thought Bad Bunny did it, you know, and. An incredible job of bringing awareness. to some things that people have flat out forgotten.

So I don't know, obviously, you know, you being, you know. Bart from Wisconsin, you know, I'm sure.

Some of the things kind of went over your head. And that's totally okay. That's the point of this. Like, maybe some aspects of the performance weren't for you, and I don't mean you specifically, but weren't for you as a general public, but. There was messages about how Puerto Rico's infrastructure still fucked up.

From Hurricane Maria about five years ago.

So when he's climbing the power lines and you see the grids going off, that's because they're still rolling blackouts in the country. You know, that, you know, the I still remember images of Trump throwing paper towels into the crowd. That's what you need. We needed the federal funding that you promised five years ago. That's tied up in bureaucracy.

That's not going to happen. The sugar cane fields, I thought that was a great symbol. Obviously, I joked about that, but that's what started the exploitation of Puerto Rico. Mining jewelry was another thing. You know, there's just a lot of powerful messages that are out there.

And I think the biggest thing for me was: yeah, I talk about like the messages of love and unity, all that stuff. When he's saying, God bless America. And he starts naming Latin countries and you're like, what the hell? Why is he talking about? Paraguay and Uruguay.

He's talking about all of America. Not just North America. He's talking North America, South America, Central America.

So that's why you're Guatemala, you know, Chile, you know, Peru.

Well, together we are America. I thought that was it. Peru, yeah. You said Peru. Peru, yeah, Nicaragua.

you know el sabaror you know like you know But no, I thought there were a lot of powerful messages out there. I thought he did a great job. I don't think it was offensive at all. Like, if you had taken umbrage with the fact that there were two guys dubbing on each other, that's your business. That's your prerogative.

But I thought he did a fine job. And I thought even if you didn't understand Spanish, you can understand emotion. To me personally. I still have like the Dr. Dre, you know, Kendrick.

Snoop, like that whole West Coast halftime show. That to me is my favorite one because that's the music I grew up with. But I believe Happy enough putting bad bunny up there and like in the top three, just for the messages and what it represented to me as a Puerto Rican. I don't know. We it kind of ruined um Not to tell you too much about what we were doing, but please.

I just gotten done with um my fifth uh taco. And my wife was eating a burrito. And my kid was having a chimichanga. I think that's what he had. I don't know.

Oh, he had the best meal. Yeah, I don't know what he had. We have some when he was at daycare, he was at that Spanish immersion daycare.

So We one like one of the teachers, she comes over and watches them. Uh, sometimes. And I was on my seventh corona, and I had to spit it out. Because how dare there be Spanish on my fucking TV? That's right.

Biggest problem I had with the halftime show, I couldn't understand it. You know what though? This would be my struggle. Because I would try to Attack the halftime show. from a non-political way.

Like I'm shitting on the halftime show and everyone goes, oh. Liberal.

Okay, what's your eighth clue? But then second of all. Um I politics aside. The fact that you had to have, like, if you're gonna boycott a halftime show. Boycott the halftime show.

Right. Don't start a new one. Don't be like, but I still need it. No, you don't. And then I'll say this.

This is what I would have said on the show tonight. And I, because I would really try to not talk about it politically, but still talk about it. Sure. Because I think there's a fine line in there. But the way that I would start to alienate people politically is if I said, And how would you feel?

Okay. If They go through this whole production. To make sure that there's another halftime show. And then I saw video. At Mar-a Lago.

And what are they watching at halftime? Fucking bad bunny. What the fuck? You went through all this shit and your core audience. was still watching we still hate watching buddy show.

The jester comes and dances for the king. King's on a smoke break. What the fuck's the jester doing here? King went on a beer run. Yeah, I thought people who were hating on it were they were just they were just what they were just hating on it.

Like like honestly, like if you really felt strongly about the half thought the halftime performance being bad bunny, Show me something. Don't watch the game. Forget about boycotting the halftime show. Don't watch the game, period. Turn the TV off.

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Soft and strong, simple. Carlos, you and I the other night had the pleasure to join EJ Stewart. He's doing 40 Days and 40 Nights a podcast. And he's going to join our podcast. Nice.

Formerly of the Infinity Sports Network. Do you have the client? Do you have a Do you have it? DJ Stewart. Yo.

I got it. Jesus. Yeah. There you go. Do you want to get in the halftime discourse or should we go to the game?

Sure. Wherever you want to go, I was listening to it, I was enjoying the conversation. EJ, for those that don't know, on the Winkler verse. He was with the Infinity Sports Network. Um we maybe did.

Two shows together at some point? I think it was more than that. We've done those weekends. Yeah, but I think I did a morning one with you once. Yeah, and you and we've done a morning show.

Yeah, so Maybe three. I mean, the chemistry that you guys have is unparalleled. I think maybe five or six, I feel like, somewhere around there. I was doing the part-time grind for a while. It was almost two years.

Yeah, you know, you get thrown on random weekend shows, and yeah, I definitely rock with you a little bit.

So, always great to talk to you, Bart. Always great to talk to you, Carlos. I think the three of us all busted our ass, and look what we have to show for it. Yeah. Dude, and you know what?

Not to take this one off the rails, man. Do you guys would hear what's going on in the fan? Shit. I mean, it's. It's infinity all over again.

Well, I'm there.

So everything is great. We love the fan. Yeah, I was there last night. What happened to the fan last night? Nothing.

Nope, EJ, everything's perfect. We'll talk offline. Yeah, we done at a different time.

So, what'd you think of the game? What have you been talking about with the game, EJ? The game was terrible. The game went kind of how I thought it would go, but I thought it'd get better. I think when I had you guys on, I said, and I kind of took what you took, Bart, a little bit, was that I think the game may start slow.

And then, once the Seahawks realize, oh, we're way better than this team, then they'll just like put it in, like, you know, put it in the sixth drive or whatever, and just go. Their passing office never allowed them to do that, and credit to Eddie the Patriots defense and Gonzales, particularly was just phenomenal. But. The Patriots offense was exactly what I thought it was going to be. They had played that way for the last month.

And they had those problems and protections for the last month. And Drake May was having problems hitting receivers for months. I don't think they're gambling at the turnstile. Oh, Campbell was awful. And I just feel like that's not going to get fixed in the Super Bowl of all the games.

This is week seven. He said, okay, we can get this fixed by week 14 or sometime in the regular season. I could say, okay, maybe you can get things fixed during a regular season. You kind of are what you are once a playoff start. And if Drake May was going to have those kind of struggles, and the offensive line was going to have those kind of struggles, and then you add on the fact that those receivers that I think a lot of people had questions about certainly didn't help him at all yesterday.

They couldn't get open at all, they were just. glued to those uh those dbs for the folks They had no shot. Schedule shot, the Seals realized that I think they realized, hey, let's just run Kenneth Walker. Put us in a position to get field goals. If we keep scoring field goals, they're not gonna be able to come back in this game.

That's essentially what happened.

So the game was not fun. The halftime show was a lot of fun. I definitely enjoyed that. But that was probably the MVP of the game outside of Kenneth Walker, I think was young Benito. Did you guys?

I was at a party. I was. You party? Yeah, I never go to this kind of shit, which is why I keep bringing it up. Especially during the Super Bowl.

This is the first Super Bowl I've watched outside of my house since. Maybe when the Packers won it. Wow. Yeah, geez. I never leave college when that happens.

Yeah, I never leave my house. Um for the Super Bowl. I just like to watch it. I like to get the whole experience. And, you know, I've been a big commercial guy, but that era is over.

You know what? I had a great, let me throw this take at you guys.

Okay. So the Super Bowl commercials, the reason they used to be good. is because There wasn't as much like Expectation on them, or there wasn't as much necessity for them to live. Off of You used to pay $3 million, get a Super Bowl commercial, go on with your day. But now, with social media, you get to preview it.

You get to talk about it. It's a whole campaign afterwards. Half stay in power.

So we think we'd long for this day. And we do think we long. I'm talking all the time. Like, I want to try to go analog. I reset up a VHS in my house.

Or a VCR, you know, I never watch it, but I set one up. I feel like. If you took away. Streaming. Just streaming is all.

No streaming. And Blockbusters were back.

Okay. Do you know how quickly How quickly? People going to blockbusters would end, and there would be a new business. of like DoorDash for video rentals. Like in an instant.

People would be like, I'm not driving to Blockbuster. Can you rent this movie for me and drive it here? That would happen so quickly. And I say this example because I think we long for this lifetime. that we used to have that was slower and more simple.

But I don't I don't think we'd be able to do it. I don't think we'd be able to do it.

So, the Super Bowl, we long for a. A game where Super Bowl commercials are good. But there's too much at stake. There's too much money. They're not they're not You want them to be the best commercial.

The best, like the best commercial in the sense of. What you're trying to do is get people to stop and look at the T V. And it's very, very hard to do that.

So when a Karaoke scream comes on the TV. Yeah. And everyone's doing, I want it that way. And I've seen multiple videos. The same shit happened.

where people start singing and then it says Coinbase. And then people are like, oh, Jesus. I thought it was genius. I saw people doing middle fingers. I saw people cursing on the commercial and the AI, this ring commercial will track your dog.

I don't know, man. Just lose your dog. If we're going to have every ring camera, get a new fucking dog. Hemsworth is like. All the ways AI will kill me.

And then Try's like, Do you want to massage? And he's like, Oh, this is actually pretty great. Yeah. AI. Crypto.

Drugs. This economy, gambling. This economy's on a house of cards, boys. Anyway, that's my commercial takeaway.

Well I feel like I saw someone post on social media that like this There was that year, maybe like a couple years ago, that was like the crypto year where every commercial seemed to be crypto. Then this one was the AI year where everything seemed to be about AI. I hope it's one of those things where, like, okay, this is not part of our lives, but then we can have normal commercials-ish moving forward. Like, there was still like, obviously, crypto in this one as well. But maybe we get to a new generation where this was just the year where I was like, Yeah, you know what?

We're just gonna have to they threw all their money and all their attention at AI because that is the quote-unquote thing now. And we had to suffer through it just like a couple years ago, we had to suffer through only crypto commercials for an entire year.

So that's my hope. They definitely were mid this year. I seem to be one of those folks. I didn't know it was controversial. I liked the Duncan commercial.

I thought it was so absurd. You would. I thought it was so absurd that I thought that was the point. And I don't think people got it. Like it was funny.

I thought it was legitimately funny. Like, this is completely ridiculous. We kind of see what's happening here. And a lot of people, first I saw people loving it. I have some friends from former Infinity friends who loved it, Andrew Bogish, who tweeted that he loved it or texted me he loved it as well.

But then I saw a lot of people Twitter like, oh, this is the worst thing ever. I'm like, it's. Isn't it kind of obviously showing how absurd this is with all these movies and all these shows de-aging people, especially knowing being a Marvel fan and seeing what they did with Michael Douglas and some of the other people? Like, I'm like, this is obvious. I know what's happening here.

This is funny, right? Right. And then it seemed like it was like a 50-50 split. Yeah, I guess not. The de-aging, I don't mind the de-aging thing.

And I haven't minded it in like you know. It's better than recap. I don't know. But the, because that was the sentiment. The sentiment was.

Oh, this is a funny commercial. I just remember hearing someone say, I got to go watch this one later because it was loud. And then, yeah, then you realize: oh, was that a bunch of AI? Were they just AI? I think people.

are rejecting AI. But it's going to get to the point where. You're not going to be able to tell what's AI or not. That's exactly what it is. You're only rejecting it right now because it doesn't look completely natural.

Once it gets to the point where it's discernible, we don't go super hard on it now. We're going to watch shit like that and have no idea. Yeah. That's fair.

So we're going to be screwed. You've mentioned something about something that I wanted to bring it back to something.

So I'll just do it anyway without a sweet segue. Giannis coming out and saying he's a Kelchie man. That really pissed me off. Was that after? I think that was after we had chatted.

Because we talked on Thursday. Right on the great deadline. Yeah, and Friday, I think, was the day he posted that.

So I'm all like Giannis, you know, Milwaukee versus everybody. But then he does this Kelchie thing, and then you look back at the last two months. And it's, you gotta wonder, like. What was real this whole time? And even if even if you don't gotta wonder.

You kind of do though. And also. You're announcing this the day after the trade deadline? Even if he announced it during the Super Bowl or was in a Super Bowl commercial. That's a big difference than the day after the trade deadline.

Oh, by the way. As all of you guys have been gambling on where I'm going to go. I'm actually a partner with them.

Okay. I think it's super gamble here, gamble here in the summer. See where I'm going to go. Yeah, I don't like it. And we also talked.

before the Bucs got Cam Thomas.

So. Watch out east. Oh yeah. Feel the field field fear the deer. There's a lot of people who are on him.

Because They don't really think he's part of their future plans. He's kind of uh Which is crazy because he I use this analogy on the fan. Actually, I just talked about this literally a couple of nights ago. And To me, he is what Kenny Smith calls a looter in a riot. in that he's the kind of offensive player that On a terrible team.

where someone has to get shots. He's going to score a lot of points because he has. Talent? But on an actual winning team and an actual... Winning environment.

Are you ever going to win anything with that guy playing a lot of minutes? Considering he doesn't play defense, he's kind of undersized, he doesn't give any value at the one. Probably not.

So I think for the Nets. Could they just keep him on as a tank commander? Sure. But at the end of the day, he is going to be a free agent this year. And it was either pay him now or let him walk.

So I think they feel like, you know what, let's just get him out the building.

So at least we can let some of these other guys. come in and get some time. And it'll probably help our tank because He is talented. He could in any night score 30 or even 40 points. He has that kind of offensive ability.

We don't want that to happen. We want to lose.

So let's just get rid of him. He's not going to be on our team next year.

So let's just let him walk in. Whoever wants him wants him. And now he's with your beloved Milwaukee Bucks.

So. Enjoy from Cam Thomas. A lot of isolation. A lot of people are 34-point ice for you guys. Yeah, you'll have a lot of removals and isolations.

When you're describing, um. You know, a guy that's going to put up a lot of shots on a team that can't shoot well. He's in the perfect place. He's going to. He's going to love Milwaukee.

He's gonna. That's what someone had a call and be like, oh, the Knicks should get him. I was like, why would that make any sense? He's not gonna get shots here. They're gonna need him to actually do other things besides shoot, which is not what they need you to guard somebody.

Whoa, whoa, defense. What are we talking about? Yeah, it wants nothing to do with that. In Milwaukee, he can do whatever he wants there right now. I watched that Knicks game yesterday.

That was a good win. It was. The Celtics, that that's not a good matchup for the Celtics. I mean, if Tatum's back and he comes back, then it's a different dynamic, but. They don't have the offensive firepower, I think, to match the Knicks.

You know what's crazy? And I do this a lot. Whoever the Knicks play that day, I just play that matchup on 2K. Yeah. Can I exploit that team the same way like the Knicks are?

Or. Can I like overcome whether the Knicks failed that night? I do that a lot. I admit I'll admit this here. Like after the game you do it?

I do it after the game. Yeah, most of the most of the time is after the game.

Sometimes I'll do before, but most of the time is after. A lot of times it's a rough loss. God, that's like, and I'm like, give me the. I love that. I'm beating.

I'm beating the Pistons, damn it. Like, I don't care what I just saw. And I play on the hardest level. I'm not the greatest at 2K. And I smoked the Celtics yesterday.

So I think just the game that I watched, the game I played, I'm like, this is just not, this is just not a good matchup. If Taylor comes back, I think it's a different story, but. I think where the Celtics are right now, they have a guarding record, but I think the Knicks, their physicality on the glass. And I think that their versatility in terms of throwing multiple guys at Jalen Brown, it's just not enough. They need another scorer.

Let me ask you this one since technically it's the day after the Super Bowl. But I do want to talk more NBA with this trio. at another date Yeah. But regarding so I'm still in the mode, and I was telling Carlos this before you got on. Where I still think like What would I have done on the show tonight?

And you're doing your podcast in the morning and at night.

So you're still, you're still, I would, you're still preparing. Definitely a normal Because you're on for a while. I would probably be struggling. And I'd figure it out because I'm a pro and I still have eight hours until my show starts. But I would probably struggle with like What is this?

Like, we saw what we saw last night.

So what does it mean? Are the Patriots a team? Is this going to be like, is Drake May like Dan Marino? You had your shot young, and now you're fucked. Or is this the beginning of something great for?

New England. Is this is Seattle, you know? Does this rectify Sam Darnold? One thought I had last night was. You know, who should probably take a lot of shrapnel for this?

Geno Smith. Geno Smith's on the Seahawks team. They're 9-7 forever. Sam Darnold leaves the Vikings. They still go 9-7 or 9-8.

Gino goes to the Raiders. They're going to draft Fernando Mendoza.

So he had a bad night, but I don't. I don't really know like what else. I would I would grasp or hold on to. To like get You know, because you're trying to Get a segment that's going to, you know, have some legs. I don't know if you guys.

I mean, Carlos, you better come up with something. You're my producer. You were. I mean, the lead is obviously that the New York Jets have drafted a Super Bowl-winning quarterback. I mean, and you just hammered at.

That's a baby. We did it. That's our excellent talent evaluators.

Now, development, that's another thing. But they can sure evaluate the shit out of quarterbacks. Yeah. Who's another one? That he's all yet.

Okay. You know what we got? Joe Namuth. That's where you're going back to. Who was drafted in the NFL?

With those Technical Tyrans. Wasn't even drafted in the NFL draft. He was in the AFL. He was not even in the same league. 'Cause I feel like Seattle is a team that They were good.

People know they're good. Mm-hmm. Um People respect What Sam Darnold did. People respect what the defense did. I saw the odds next year.

I think it's them and the Rams 9 to 1, 10 to 1. Yeah, I saw some way too early rankings as people still have the Rams hired in Seattle. I'm like, bro, we literally just saw Seattle beat them two weeks ago. Yeah, but I don't think a lot of people are going to take a Seattle Um Repeat. Yeah, I don't know.

It's more likely we'll see a new champion next year than we're going to see the beginning of a Seattle dynasty, but I'm not going to write Seattle off like a bunch of people are already because Seattle's got cap space. You know, they could still bring in some people and/or like I think. They'll let you know Reek Woolen go, but they're going to pay, you know, what's it Rashisha Heid? Seattle's going to be able to make some moves and they could easily. easily make it back uh to the super bowl next year i just I don't know.

I think a lot of people will be like, okay, all right. That was a cute story.

Now that Sam Darnold got his ring.

Okay, you know, we can go ahead and start talking about the Rams and the Niners and everybody else that we think is going to be good again. The Eagles and the Lions will bounce back. I think we're just kind of quick to dismiss what Seattle just did, but. Listen, I I I think they're legit. I mean I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I feel like we're just in a rush to turn the page.

Like, the Super Bowl is not even 24 hours dead, and we're ready to look forward to the draft and who's going to be good next year. Fucking Matt Stafford, still my retire. You know, and we're talking about long leads on the best key. No, I guess that, but how long? You know, there's no way you're going to have them for like another two, three years.

That's true. I feel like when you think about what to take away from this game, because the Sea Offser are that weird team where they don't necessarily feel like. A one-off in terms of like, oh, we'll never see this team compete. That defense is not a one-off. Yeah, no, definitely not.

I don't think their offenses. Like, JSN is not a one-off. And Kenneth Walker, if they resign him, they keep him long-term, not a one-off. And Chardonnay was hurt. Right, and Charmin got hurt.

So I don't think they're one-up, but they're also like not dynastic in how they look.

So like they're kind of like this weird middle game. I think the takeaway from what we learned is probably that this is like the ushering in of a new era of parody in the NFL. We were living in the Chiefs era of football. and this concept that if you didn't have a quarterback Like Patrick Mahomes, or a roster that was stacked with all-stars like the Eagles, just kind of had no shot. And now you're learning that you kind of can still figure this out.

Like the Patriots. They got. A lot of help with needs of schedule. And a lot of things went their way. In the playoffs, I think they got lucky with everything they faced.

But They found their way in the Super Bowl looking like that. Like, think about that. Like, look at how they look in the Super Bowl. They got there playing like that. The Seahawks took a head coach to I don't think he was the hot candidate when he was one of the guys that was being announced as the guys that were being interviewed for jobs.

They have a quarterback who was jettisoned from a place where he won 14 games and it was his fourth stop now in the NFL. And they got rid of their one of maybe the second greatest fee of all time in their franchise's history. and they're in the super bowl i i think this is there and now i think people can say huh Maybe I don't need to spend $60 million on a quarterback, or maybe I don't need to. Have the guy who is super, super elite. Like, maybe I can get a guy who's just good.

put them around a really good team. And how? Maybe all these McVay acolytes and Shannon acolytes, maybe we don't need those guys either. Like this idea that you have to get some offensive guru to come in and change life for you. McDonald was the first coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl calling a defense, which I cannot believe that that's the stat.

When they said that last night, I was like, are you serious? And I thought Belichick, but then I thought Belichick had Coromelle, he had Flores, he had a bunch of Patricia, he had a bunch of guys.

So I think this is like really the script being flipped on what you kind of expect from a Super Bowl champion. And people realizing that you don't have to go down that same script. In fact, you could go down a different script and still be viable to be a championship caliber team next year. Because again, they're co-favorites with the Rams to be in the Super Bowl potentially next year and win the Super Bowl next year.

So I think that'd probably be the takeaway I would have if I was putting my producer host brain on, is that. This is kind of like the ushering in of a new era of like, I don't know if. We're going to see another young quarterback or Mahomes himself come back and say, all right, I'm going to the next four titles again. I think this is an era where we're going to see a lot of different people talk to eat, kind of similar to the NBA, where all these stars and all these teams are now winning championships. It's not just the era of LeBron James or Steph Curry.

Um, off of that first, Zach Gelb says Ola. Hi, Zach. Plus up back.

Sorry for your loss. We have a Spanish halftime show, and people are talking Spanish already. Mr. Positive says hi, everybody. Oh my god.

Yo. This is great. Al Bardo, let me tell you what a halftime performance by Koneho Mahalo. All my Winkler Warriors in Detroit. We just absolutely loved it.

I just, boom, Shakalaka. Hey, Super Bowl, terrible. Barry in Boston. I was at the bar. I came home from the bar.

I left the bar at halftime. They were never going to win that game. Adrian's losing. It was awful. It was terrible.

But that halftime performance, it was awesome. I was at the bar and I was talking to my son, who plays junior hockey in some hockey tournament. And let me just tell you, it was awesome. That's all I got. I didn't know Mike McDonald and Maria Taylor went to high school.

High school again. Yeah. That's crazy, too. I watched some piece that they did, like, not this piece. They did not ever interact in no way in hell were they in any similar circle as she was on the volleyball team, athletic, tall, six, whatever.

Yeah. They never had no chance. And I watched I watched There was some because I didn't know that until last night. You probably didn't know that until last night. You learned that as you walked in the interview, like, wait, live with you, Maria.

I remember going to your volleyball games. But they gave a hug that was like. You know, when you hug someone, but you're not. I don't know. I'm the hug police.

High school people are weird. It's like, there's like. 85% of them, if I run into them again, I kind of don't want to have an interaction, even if I don't do know who they are. There's like a solid 15% where it's like, oh, if I see you, I'm going to say what's up. I want to say how you doing and add that little, that little back, that little back and forth.

Same, no, same with me. My closest friends also, we're the same high school group. but like outside that group again if i'm including everyone else About 15%, there are people I've seen in public who I know into my high school. I'll just pretend that I don't know who they are. done it.

Yep. How big were your glasses? Mine was five fifty. We, my high school class, well, I went to the largest Catholic high school in America in St. Francis Proper, shout out to the Terriers.

I think our graduating class is around 800, 900. Jeez. Yeah, I went to a very hood high school in the middle of Queens. There had to be like. Seven, eight hundred people in there.

It was one of the largest public high schools in New York City, Newtown High School, Shadow Pioneers. I think so, based on, you know, to go back, I like a little detour with EJ, what you were saying. I think my takeaway might be like. What was the point of the AFC here? What the hell?

So for New England, obviously, they had a very easy road with the Chargers. Coming in as the seven. And then the Texans. who've never won on the road in the playoffs. And then the Broncos game, where even Jared Stenham scores on you right away.

Oh, and then it starts snowing. But if I'm everybody else in the AFC. What an opportunity. If you're Baltimore, you missed out huge to not make the playoffs. If you're the Bills.

My God, the Bill, this has to hurt. Just as much as any of these other now, would they beat Seattle? We don't know. I think Seattle probably would have been favored against any of these teams. But the Bills would have put up more of a fight.

Than that. And I think there's an importance here. Not that it's happened every time. But The one and two seeds matter. The regular season matters.

in the NFL. You know, Seattle was the one seed, so they get a week off. New England, if you're the two seed, only one seven seeds ever won. It's my stupid Packers against the stupid Cowboys.

So that barely counts. These seven seeds they get in, it's like. If you're a two-seed, you're at home, they're not going to be. A bull's in the play-in. Yeah, you get in, you get knocked out by the heat every year.

They're not going to beat you. I think these teams, even though the two-seed doesn't have a buy anymore, I think because the playoffs have expanded, expanded means watered down. Which means if you're at the top. It's a little bit of an easier road. For you.

I just think that, you know, while they're Probably I don't know. Could the Bills have beat Seattle? I don't want to say they couldn't have. Could the Broncos have? I don't know.

There was a path there for any other team to get in, and they didn't get it. And the Patriots. They were just not going to win this game. And it's very possible next year, when we're looking at the AFC playoff bracket, it's very possible that four of the teams that got in now are not there next year. Because I don't see, you know, again, credit to the Patriots having a good season.

I don't see them go a path for them to make it back next year. to the playoffs, let alone forget about going back to the Super Bowl. I think this was a grand opening, grand closing kind of window for these guys.

Well, it was a, it was, they, they enjoyed the easiest schedule, and next year it will become one of the hardest schedules just by the virtue of being in first place. And one, uh, one thing that I think was lost on a lot of people: like, oh, wow, you know, the Patriots had this overnight success. I mean, Mike Vrabel, obviously, he was coach of the year. Dude, the Patriots hit on every single free agent signing that they had. And this is in the NBA where you can get a superstar player available because of salary cap implications or just it doesn't fit with a team or he wants out, whatever the case may be.

In the NFL, if you're a free agent, chances are a team doesn't want you.

So, you know, it's not like you're getting Joe Burrow entering the free agency in his prime.

So, just do I see a situation where the Patriots are going to hit on another class of free agency back-to-back? Like, that's so rare.

So, um Yeah, I think it was a great turnaround, but I don't know. I don't want to say Dan Marino quite yet, but there are a bunch of guys who've gotten to the Super Bowl who haven't gotten back since. I mean, Jerry Goff hasn't gotten back since. Joe Burrow hasn't gotten back since. Brock Purdy hasn't gotten back since.

So, you know, it's going to be very tough if you're in the AFC. Um, to kind of stomach that the Patriots were your representative coming out of the conference. Um because It might not be this easy again in the next couple of years. I'm just gonna yell at this next year. Like, it's like they, I want to make sure I got this right.

They got the NFC North, so they got your boys up there. The Patriots do next year? Yeah, and they got the AFC West. Yeah, they're cock. I mean AFC West had two teams that made the playoffs and the Chiefs.

And then the NFC North has, what, three teams that make the playoffs, and the Vikings, who are no slouch and have a great defensive coach. We'll see what nine is, but at the very least, you know, you're in for a. He's never played for Minnesota again. And there's a chance you might not even be there. Right.

There's a chance there might be a different quarterback there. Good luck to the Patriots with this schedule. And Jacksonville's in there too, because now they're in first place team. And Jacksonville last year's first place team.

So. It's gonna be tough sliding for them. I think that's a pretty Nice shock in the logo. I don't, something about Mike Vrabel, I don't trust or believe in or think is good. You might be on your own on Allen, brother.

I don't think, no, you're not, you're not. I was someone who thought that his hiring this year was really overrated. And I can't deny he did a great job this year. He was coach of the year. I agree.

I thought Mike McDonald should have gotten the award, but you can't be upset that Vrabel got it. I think Shanahan could have got it. Cohen could have got it. Johnson could have got it. The Patriots were a last-place team that went to the Super Bowl.

And forget about the postseason success. They wanted a vision where everyone put in blood it was going to be the Bills. It has to be variable. Mm. I just want to yell about a comment before I wrap up here.

Didn't realize this turned into a political podcast. Go ahead and mute.

Well, I don't know where I don't know if you I don't know where in the show you're.

So here's the problem is I understand. That People So first of all, this is my this is my own thing.

So I'm doing what I want. But if I was still on the Infinity Sports Network tonight. I would talk about the halftime show. And I found a way to. I think you can talk about it non-political, but I'm just getting really.

Like, I don't understand. I don't understand. These people That don't think Sports and politics are intertwined in any way. They're wildly intertwined. Always have a lot of things.

They are intertwined in ways you can't even imagine. They are intertwined in where, like, Gerald Ford Would have never been the president of the United States. If the NFL when he was in college Wasn't like a laughing stock. Because he then went. To study instead, becomes a president later on in his life.

He could have been a pro, he could have been an all-pro football player, never touching politics. Never. Politics and sports are very intertwined. They always have been. The only time people say don't Intertwine is when they're being intertwined and it's not your politics.

Right. So you don't. care about politics and sports. You just don't want. The other Politics and sports.

That's. What you don't like. Um regarding why it's come up at all. on this show. Is because of the Super Bowl halftime show.

Which we always talk about. That's part of the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl has a lot of legs because you can talk about it. But you could talk about the commercials, and it all makes sense on a sports show. It's the commercial, it's the whole event.

The flyover, that camera shot, that was sick as fuck. Did you guys see that where they're on the They were on the plane and they went to the guy. Or no, they were on the guy, they went to the flyover. It was the greatest shot in the history of shots. Yeah, check it out.

But There was a halftime show. That I don't even, I don't need it. If I can't explain it, I can't explain it. You know what I said the other day? I said this.

I said this. in company I wasn't Sure, but I took it anyway and it paid off. Yeah. Because I was talking with a woman. Who is like a Like she's in trauma.

If you're going to die, you see her. Oh, I got it.

Somebody brought in their kids. And the kid was going to die. And she's like, okay, well, I'll give him this antibiotic. And they said. We don't believe in that.

And she said, Well, he's going to die.

So they gave it to him, and then he lived. And then they wrote a letter to the hospital. That didn't make me feel good when you told me my kid was going to die.

So what I realize is I think We wrongly assume, and if either of you don't want to be seen in this sentence, please leave. Oh no, I'm good. Or after the fact. I mean, now you put the disclaimer. We realize we I think we assume Like you would never assume everyone's the same height.

You would never assume everyone's as fast as the same. Let me just use that one because that's the analogy I use. You would never assume everyone's this. Got the same speed. Right?

You'd never assume it. I'm slow. I'm like. I ran a 40 in like eight seconds.

Okay. I'm like, I can't move. I'm like Dave Portnoy slow. Right. I can't move.

Yeah. That's just how I was born.

Now I can work at it and do things. to help me get a little faster. But I'm never going to be as fast as people that were born fast. And I think the same needs to be thought of with intelligence.

Some people are just born dumb. And some people aren't smart. And if you're dumb, you can study and be smarter. But some people are just born with brains that You're not allowed to be. Running a 4240 with your brain.

So I'm still working workshopping that one, but I felt pretty good about it. And it hit at the party I told it at. Yeah. Well, thank you.

So those are my You know, the more that I'm trying to open up here, the less I'll ever work for any other person again. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're not getting a job. That ship has sailed. No. EJ, you got your pods going night and morning.

You're on day 21? 21. Let's go. More than halfway there. Can you tell the people how to find it?

Yeah, man, 40 days, 40 nights, new generation media. That's what you'll search on YouTube. New generation media, subscribe to the channel. That's where you'll get 40 days and 40 nights. Where I do two live shows per day talking sports, as I call it, a sports-centered show.

Yeah, because we will talk about other things regarding pop culture. Not so much politics, but. With the Super Bowl halftime show, it's kind of unavoidable, right?

So we've all done that. But no, it's a sports center, Joe. We'll talk sports. We'll also talk superheroes. We had Bart and Carlos on, they were talking.

Plenty of Marvel. We talked Wonder Man, future of MCU. That's the kind of show I do. A lot of fun, a lot of. talking about whatever but we do talk a lot of sports catch that 8 a.m 6 p.m.

Monday through Friday. And by the way, that new generation is in you. Yes, and you. That's how you search it. New generation, NU generation media.

Thank you, Carlos. Always got to remind folks of that. And I'm also streaming live on XEJ underscore Stewart and on Instagram, Axe EJ.

So what happens after the next twenty? That's a good question. There's been... There's been conversations. There's been conversations with me and my fiancé and my dog.

But yes, there have been conversations with my parents about what to do afterwards. It will not be something that's daily because this is. This, I don't say it's killing me because it makes me feel like I'm sure it's very taxing. You could be in the coal mines, you could. I know I wouldn't have done it.

I know that every time I know what I'm supposed to do, let alone 40 nights in addition. I'm like, you're 80 shows in 40 days. That's. That's a grueling. That's kind of the point, right?

You're in Gallagher territory. That is the point. And to me, so I'm like, it's taxing. It will not be. Daily, and it will not be twice a day, whatever comes after it, but something will come out of it.

Something's gonna come out of it, some kind of podcast show that's consistent. That you'll maybe catch a couple of times a week, or maybe once a week. We'll see what the timing is. But this is kind of like the launch pad for whatever that. you know, individual EJ show is moving forward.

Well, you're welcome to stop in the Winklerverse anytime. I think this is probably it for my radio career, however long I can. I like it. I like it. I like it here in the Winkleverse, man.

Like, you know, I feel like, you know. Spider-Man walking through one of those portals being like. Oh, this world's cool. I like it. Let me find a Gwen or someone and let's have some fun here.

Well, and if you guys want, I think we're going to do a Brewers Tailgate in July if anyone wants to get to Milwaukee to watch Brewers Marlins. I told you what, I've heard Milwaukee is really nice in the summer. My my my good buddy Manny Rodriguez actually went to school in Green Bay.

So he talked a ton about how much Wisconsin's awesome in the summer.

So I'm not. Opposed? If I have money and a job and days off, that's the big if right there. Yeah, now there's a lot, that's a lot that has to happen. But there's no shot I'm doing that in this economy.

with my lack of economy. Yeah. I meant just like. Watch the game on TV. I can't afford tickets.

Although we don't know yet. We don't know yet because I did. Just buy another $20 of lottery tickets because. I got my six-year-old kid really into scratch-offs accidentally.

So. Man, you're setting them up for success. Oopsie. Carlos, EJ, guys, thank you so much for coming on. Appreciate you.

We'll go national every Monday. Tomorrow's pod? I don't know what I'm doing yet. TBD. Maybe, maybe, you know what?

Maybe, maybe. Maybe I'll just do a politics-only one. What a tease. Instead of dancing around everything I always talk about, I'm just going to lay, I'm just going to have a 20-point plan. How I feel about everything.

The opening segment, Mitch McConnell. That's it. That's going to go. That's going to go. Exclamation point.

Just nuke any chance. Ever. All right, boys, thank you. Thanks for everyone for hopping on live or later. And as always, thank you for stopping into the Winklerverse.

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