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Seattle beat New England in the Super Bowl, a game we'll probably never think about again

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February 8, 2026 5:46 pm

Seattle beat New England in the Super Bowl, a game we'll probably never think about again

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February 8, 2026 5:46 pm

The Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl with Sam Darnold as their quarterback, while the Vikings' decision to let him go has sparked debate about what could have been. The Packers' quarterback situation and Matt LaFleur's coaching style are also discussed.

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Welcome into the Winklerverse. I am Bart Winkler. It's great to be with you on the Super Bowl Sunday. Night. Got the Sunday scaries.

How is that a a Super Bowl party? And it was parents and it was kids. And everybody left at halftime because it's a school night. And there's kids. No, but it was a good night.

Seahawks win 29-13. The game itself, I don't think was that. Exciting. It's certainly not going to be one that we remember. I don't know what you're going to remember about this.

Super Bowl. I think, you know, just thinking of different Super Bowls. Patriots Falcons.

Okay. You remember 283? The Eagles Patriots, you remember Nick Foles in the Philly special. I think um the Broncos Panthers Super Bowl. First thing that I would think of is Cam Newton.

Not trying to recover a fumble. Uh Ravens and Niners. You remember the lights going out? Right. And I think that This is going to be that kind of.

Remembrance. I don't know. We may be real on the cusp of it. And maybe in three days' time it It blows over and there's a new thing for us to. to think about But the story coming into this Super Bowl was bad bunny.

I mean, let's not. Let's not get it twisted. I didn't want it to be the story. And I don't even I don't I don't think that I don't want to give oxygen to the fact that it was the story. But the story Leading up to the Super Bowl.

was Bad Bunny. And you know what? Let me do 60 seconds on the halftime thing. May I? It's totally fine for other groups to want to counter-program the halftime show.

The only reason we have a halftime show to begin with. As hyped up as it is, is because one year Fox. who didn't have broadcast rights was like, there's all these people watching TV. And at halftime, they just have like some USC marching band or something. There's all these people watching TV at this time.

We know they're watching TV.

So if we advertise that something's going to be on. the halftime show and they don't like it, they can come watch it here. And then go back to the game afterwards. And so they did a new episode of In Living Color. It's early 90s.

As the halftime showed, 20 million people flipped over. And the Super Bowl's like, well, we can't have that. The NFL is like, we can't have that.

So the next year, Pepsi got on board, and then they had Michael Jackson. Do the halftime show.

So there's always ways to counter Celebrity Deathmatch. I used to watch Celebrity Deathmatch. During halftimes of the Super Bowl. And I know that WWE has done stuff. Halftime Heat, was it, or something?

There you can counter program. During the Super Bowl. It's totally fine. I saw that the counter programming got about five, six million people. That's not a ton.

Not not for this. And I still don't understand what the problem was. I mean Do you know how many artists there are in the world musically? And do you know how many, especially in this fractured landscape, where all it's not 1979, where all were just like, yeah, I listened to the. Who on the radio?

Oh, so do I. Oh, yeah, me too. Oh, that's because that's all that we can do. It's 2026. There's music everywhere.

Half the music that's popular today, anyway, is because. of a TikTok meme. And then it gets into the real world. What I'm saying is. The Pearl clutching over halftime show, whether it's Kendrick or Bad Bunny or whoever it's going to be.

Could be Taylor Swift. Could be Lady Gaga. Could be, I mean. the greatest halftime show ever, of course, Prince doing Purple Rain in the Rain. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. Now, the halftime show is good, the entertainment value is good. Um it was the one time everybody at the party I was at. Was around the TV, you know, and the first half was really no good.

So, I don't understand it. I don't understand. How You could have The amount of effort. to care so much about a 12-minute Production during a sports halftime show that you might. Not even totally.

Like, so the halftime stuff, I don't I don't I mean, I don't care if it's the wiggles. I don't care. It's the halftime show. Anyway, I said 60 seconds. That was...

More like 180. Um, I've got the link out if anybody wants to join. Uh Q says Cam Thomas. Yeah, Bucs have been pretty active. Bucks have been pretty active.

Um They got Cam Thomas. who was waived inexplicably by the Nets. Although I did see a tweet that I have to think that the sentiment is. True. You don't just waive 20.

Four-year-old. Um That's good. And that's what Brooklyn.

So we'll see what he does with the Bucs. And again, I don't know what the Bucs. Are going to try to do If they're competing, if they're not competing, I'm going to try to talk a little bucks on the show this week. I'll reach out to Eric and Jimmo and see what we can do there. No Bucks Show tomorrow.

Mm, maybe Wednesday. Against the Thunder would be good. We'll check in with the Bucs at some point. Oh, this week. for sure.

Q is there if you want to talk, Bucks. I suppose you can. Otherwise, we can talk about this great 29 to 13 football game. That was the worst Super Bowl I've ever seen. It wasn't.

It wasn't. What was worse? Rams Bengals is pretty bad. At least that had star power. Yeah, I think this Super Bowl One of the reasons why the halftime Show was able to get so much oxygen is because the NFL didn't have a matchup that was going to take it away.

Now, we're all, there's going to be 120 million people that watch this game. I mean, there's no other sporting event. that you're going to like have parties for okay uh You don't and that that's that some of that is because it's one game. You know, if the NBA had a one-game final, would you have parties? I don't know.

World Series, I don't know. Super Bowl is totally different. Um but the game itself I thought was lacking. in hype and not only the halftime thing The NBA trade deadline, like Giannis was a bigger story on Radio Row. Than Sam Darnold or Drake Maywere.

I mean, that's just the fact. Oh, that's the other thing that fucking happens. He promotes his Kelshi advertisement the day after the trade deadline. Dude, I'm not happy. That's bullshit.

That's bullshit. Because this whole time he could have been influenced. That's bullshit. And we can't let him off the hook just because he's our guy. That is bullshit.

I'm good with it. It's bullshit though. I don't know. Like. Why?

Some dude that used to sell like sodas on the side of the road. is like making money. Like I'm I'm here for it. He can do whatever he wants in my book The problem with this kind of stuff Is it's There was a guy who set up a wallet. Uh maybe it was polymarket.

One of the other ones. and nailed like every halftime thing. Because he had. Yes, to Lady Gaga, and yes to Ricky Martin, and no to some other people. Like It's insider trading.

Brought to you like it's sports gambling. But it's not. It's a scam.

Now, I did do some insider trading tonight. I did use the Kelsey app to make some bets. And I did do well on that because I had this game script. Figure it out. Low scoring first half.

Check. A lot of points in the second half. Check. Mac Holland's touchdown. Check.

AJ Barner, first scorer. Got that one, baby. But I got rocked on my DraftKings lineup, so not a profitable night. I was hoping for kickers only scoring after that first half. Like, yeah.

And then when the fourth quarter hit, I was trying to vote for Seahawks kicker as MVP, but it was, he did not appear. Oh, yeah, you could vote online. But I don't think that that does not count as an actual vote. What is it for then? I think the NFL, unless I'm mistaken, I think the NFL.

Puts who you like they make you think you're voting. For the For the Super Bowl MVP, but you're actually not. I I don't know. I'm glad old Ken Walker won. That was cool.

Kenneth Walker, Michigan State, officially the Super Bowl. MVP. He had a very good night. Let me just, if I may. Enlighten people if they don't know and don't box score watch or didn't catch the game.

It was 29-13, the final Seattle over New England. Sam Darnold, who we need to talk about because he should have been a Viking. 19 of 38, 202 and a touch. Drake May, on the other hand, two touchdowns, but he did have two interceptions. Eventually got up to 295 yards and most of that in the second half.

Walker gets the MVP for 135 yards on the ground. The feel goes, I get okay, Jason Myers, but they were all set up by Walker. I thought you could try to give it to somebody on the defensive side. For Seattle, because there was a lot of guys contributing, but there wasn't like one guy that stepped up and did more of the work.

So. The MVP did go to Kenneth Walker. A lot of people's popular pick for that was JSN. He eventually came back in the game after a concussion, but their leading receiver was Cooper Cup. New England really did not do much.

79 yards rushing. The receiving Matt Collins had that touchdown 35-yard. Catch for a long, but he had nothing. I mean, it was just, you know, it wasn't. This was a Patriots team.

I, I think. Coming into this game. It Seemed to be A very laxadaisical way to say what was going to happen, but Seattle's got a really good defense. You know, their offense is not bad either. I know they lost Charbonnet, but they didn't really seem to need him.

The Patriots scheduled to get here on a fourth-place schedule, and then what they had to face in the postseason. And then, even when they take on the Broncos without Bo Knicks and Jared Stidtham leads a drive right away, and you're like, whoa. Then it starts snowing. No one can do anything. The path to New England getting here was very, very easy.

comparatively It doesn't mean they couldn't have won. But they went up against the defense that was not going to allow them to breathe. Drake May got sacked. How many times tonight? Six, six times.

I believe he's gotten sacked more than any other quarterback in a postseason in history. With like 20 some.

So This this seemed to be the most likely result. But it took a very boring way. You're right. The game was not that good. It was not a good game.

But there's been, I feel like there's. I feel like there's been games that have been just as bad, but it's been a while. It's been a while. And this was a this was as high of a scoring game as, you know.

some of these other ones, but Oh, no, not Rams. Did I say Rams Bengals? I meant Rams Patriots, that 13-3 one that Goff started. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't mean that one.

I meant that one. Um But yeah, this was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was about as bad. Because 2913, that was not.

The score was more like forty-five to three. That's what it felt like. Yeah, it didn't feel like the Pats had a chance at any moment during this game.

So I feel like growing up, Q, Super Bowls were usually like this. They were usually. Not that good. One team was much better than the other. You know, we'd see Buffalo get their ass kicked every I think the first Super Bowl I ever remember.

I saw people talking about that today. I think I remember. The Broncos one where they got killed by the Niners. I think At least we had like the Budweiser frogs. Like the commercials nowadays are No bueno.

Were any of them good? Again, I was a room full of people. I Um There was one I did like the Xfinity. Commercial where it was like the guy had working internet and then it prevented Jurassic Park from failing. And it was like.

Imagine, like, that one was pretty funny. That I like, see, I so I like that commercial, but I saw it earlier in the week. Oh, and then I get mad about that. But then when I'm watching the game, I normally, I'm only bringing this up. Like, I'm not trying to, I usually watch the game by myself, and somehow we ended up at someone else's house tonight.

Was it Yannis's house? It was. Whoa! Yeah, Giannis was there, Thanassis. Yeah.

Um Did you have Euros? Thomas just got to town. He had nowhere to go, so he showed up. Euros? Yeah, we had Euros.

Is that why you had the inside scoop on what was going to happen in the predictive analytics? Yeah. That's why I'm on Kelsey's 'cause I was at Giannis' house. And he's like, Yo, you gotta get on Kelsey. He gave you some free credits.

And then I was like. Dude. You faked that injury both times this year, right? And he's like No, I did not say. I'm honestly like I was not at Yannis' house.

I'm honestly legit excited about Cam Thomas.

So, but we don't, this is not an NBA night. It's uh what do you think was the Turning point of the game. Uh when Bo Nix got hurt. It made That The Super Bowl was not going to be a good game. That was the turning point of the game.

Mm-hmm. Like, meaning. Three weeks ago, and Bo Nicks got hurt. It was going to be a shitty super bowl, no matter what. Micah Parsons got hurt.

That was honestly. That like. Tonight's game actually made me feel better about re-signing Matt LaFleur. And I hate him, but it's like. This league, if these were the two best teams.

This is not the NF, not the NFL I remember.

So, and maybe I sound like an idiot, but I don't know. This was But Shout out to John Snyder for building a really good defense again. He did it. Seattle is your Super Bowl. Champs.

I'm going to read some comments. I'm going to let you go. Good to see you, Q. Good to see you, man. Love you, buddy.

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Before we talk about what this game means. for the future of the NFL. And why I hate Matt LaFleur. Ozone, sick and tired of these little screen pass or five-yard toss plays. Go for the fucking bomb.

Patriots scored on those in two different plays. Yeah, this was a game. See, the game.

So sometimes It looks really easy to throw a 40-yard pass. That's caught for a touchdown. But it's not always there.

So sometimes that's going to be there and available to you. And the game opens up. You know, a lot of times you're like, why weren't they playing like this the whole game? Oh.

Well, they were playing against a different kind of defense.

So the defense.

Softens up a little bit, or knows you're going to pass.

So then they back up a little bit. But then there might be some more pockets for you. And Matt Hollins, of course. I mean, the guy doesn't wear shoes. Of course he's going to score in the Super Bowl.

He Doesn't wear shoes. Freedom boner, most exciting part of the game was the halftime show. Jeff says, for once the phrase defense wins championships. is true. And, you know, if you look at this from a Packers building perspective.

This is why you go out and get Micah Parsons. I mean, you meet difference makers on that team. The Seahawks have so many difference makers that, like. One of them should have gotten the MVP, but they had so many guys. Chipping up.

If the Packers ever put together a defensive performance like that, Even if Micah Parsons had three tackles and no hurries, he would still get the MVP. Because, of course, you know. He's the he's getting double teamed. What I'm saying is, no matter how good a Packers' defense performance is with Micah Parsons, you give Micah Parsons the MVP. With the Seahawks, they don't have a Micah Parsons, but they've got like.

10, 11 guys who we don't. They don't have Rashawn Gary's. They don't have that. Mr. Positive, I was worried about ya.

Terrible game. Glad the Hawks won. Halftime show. Oh, well. Oh well.

We've got it like. We've got to like reevaluate what's important to us as a society. The Halftime Show. It's not important. I mean, it's a big moment, it's a big thing, and We're all watching it.

So yeah. And you you are allowed to see a performer and Not like who the performer is. or not know enough about them. I don't think you should be like, I don't know, I'm not going to watch. That's kind of weird.

Oh, I don't know. I'm going to have my own halftime show. Uh That's Kind of weird too. Bob says the Super Bowl halftime show is epic. And the Kid Pebble show flopped.

Texas Badger said, TP USA show did not flop, asshole. I'll tell you right now, I saw it had five million viewers. Which is more than I'll ever get ever. I get it. I get it.

Five million. It's all relative, folks. There's a lot of shows on television that have never come close to having 5 million viewers. But for the amount of attention. and advertising.

And white hot rage behind the setting up of this halftime show. If it got 5 million viewers, That It wait flop. I'm not gonna say flop, but That's got to be below their expectations. And so now what's going to happen is that we're going to get the number. And then we're going to see the bad bunny number.

And then we're going to talk about, oh, and then we're going to fucking talk about, and then we're going to fight about over what is a flop, what are expectations? How about we just move the fuck on? How about we just move the fuck on? How about when a Super Bowl halftime show happens? We either watch it or we don't.

Who gives a shit? I watched puppy ball for the first time ever. That's pretty entertaining product. It's Puppy Bull 22. I've never seen it before.

I like that today. I didn't get into the pregame stuff, I didn't watch any NBC pregame. Normally what I'll do is I'll get so excited for the Super Bowl. Then I'll just say, I need the pregame. And then I'm bored to tears.

So I soaked it. I experienced the Super Bowl in a different way today. I watch a lot of NBA. Daytime NBA. I watched The Puppy Bowl.

I like that better. And then yeah. Get into the Super Bowl. I like that better. I'm glad I did what I did.

Uh the nineteen seventy nine. That'd be a g yeah, they can play. I like them. I did not like the Meal Diamond commercial. I know that was my guy, Andy, and.

Neil's my guy, but I don't like Neil Diamond being resorted to a pun joke to sell mayonnaise. But I'm a big Neil guy, so that one I didn't. Not a fan of Meal Diamond. Bob also says, Hey, Bart, that was an excellent game. Showed why I never bet unders.

The underbetters need to go to church tonight and thank Jesus. Or whoever they worship. Yeah, the game did go under. Seahawks did cover the spread.

So I had that part wrong. I thought we'd be in line for like a 28-24 game. where the Seahawks don't cover but they win. But slow first half picked up in the second, although when it picked up, It never really got interesting. It picked up in that there was scoring.

But that defensive touchdown really kind of sealed any shot of New England coming back. And I don't understand why they didn't go for two. They had an opportunity tonight. To go for two, and even people that are bad at math are like, oh, you gotta go for two there. We always we always debate when like Teams go for two, and then you're like, should they have gone for two?

But then analytic people will be like, yeah, you have to. How dare you? One stupid. And then Brabel, when he should have gone for two, goes for one, and everyone's just like, meh. They just move on with their life.

Doesn't make any sense. No happy ending for Kraft. That's from Jay. Jonan Hudson wearing that shirt. What are you doing?

What are we doing? What are we doing? I'm not Team Robert Kraft. But she's wearing a shirt of the Massage parlor? With Bill Belichick what What are we mad at Robert Kraft for if you're Bill Belichick?

He gave you, he had a job there for 20 years and you won six Super Bowl titles. And now you're getting back by having your 24-year-old girlfriend wear t-shirts? Ah.

Sometimes people fight and you don't root for any of them to win. I don't like it. Another one from Bob. That wasn't the worst Super Bowl. Anyone who says that doesn't really know much about the Super Bowl.

There's been a lot of bad Super Bowls, but Lately they've been better. The Tampa Bay, Kansas City one. Wasn't great. You know, Mahomes was banged up. His line was banged up.

Last year's Super Bowl was not good. Last year's Super Bowl was not good. Yeah, boring. Last year's Super Bowl was not good. But the Chiefs lost, so we didn't care.

This one The Patriots, I know they're the Patriots, and it's like they, but it's not. It feels like baby patriots. It feels, it doesn't feel like. The real Patriots. It feels like a reboot of the Patriots.

Like this is you know, this isn't the This isn't the I can't even think of any of the actors' names. Who the fuck? Who's the guy who plays um What was the guy's name? X-Men. Who's the guy who plays the guy?

What the fuck? Patrick Stewart plays Charles Xavier. Mm-hmm. Yeah, this isn't Patrick Stewart. This is.

McAvoy This isn't McKellen playing Magnetos. This is Fastbender.

Okay, it's still a good cast. But it's not the original cast.

So yeah, you know, you can like hate him if you want. But I mean, that's a you problem. That, that, that, the, the, talking like this, like, that. You're not even you you're You're warped. The T V has warped you.

The T V has warped you. You know, if you put your smartphone away for two months, no, weeks. If you don't look at your smartphone for two weeks. Your brain. I just read this today on my smartphone.

Your brain will recalibrate. And it will think you're a decade younger. My first non-WWE exposure to Bad Bunny seemed fun. Yeah, it's fine. It's ten minutes.

It's ten minutes. Proud vet for life says patriots suck. Second year rookie quarterback, and it showed. One thing that people do not know is um Drake May was actually at the last Super Bowl that was played at Levi. Yeah, he was, yeah, yeah, he was.

He was there with his dad. Ah, and he's rooting for the uh Patriots Grant says, nice to hear from Freedom Boner. Always. Always that. Um Oh, maybe speak English as a star.

Okay, all right.

Okay. We're not even we're not even Yeah. It's not even like It's not even like I don't like that artist or care to know about that style of music. It's. It's just the lot the l the the level The level of things that people think that they're willing to admit.

Just Just crazy. Forrest Jones says sports are becoming more fake by the year. We could get into that. Buckshot Bobby, bad buddy, it was rough. Hmm.

Patrick, boring game until the fourth quarter. Didn't know that Seahawks D was that good. It was an underwhelming game. I was at a baseball practice for much of the second half. Thank goodness.

Why even baseball practice, first of all. What? Sunday night. At eight o'clock, baseball practice? I'll just take off for the Super Bowl.

I did have an indoor soccer game once during. A Super Bowl. Oh, I was so pissed. I think it was I'm trying to think. It would have been when I was in high school.

I think it was the Ravens Giants one. I don't know. I was fucking pissed. I was like, why do we have to go, Dad? Yeah.

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Needs. I think um you know, an overall picture from this Super Bowl. Again, we could talk commercials and Halftime and where are you watching? Uh my dinner consisted of just Dips. I had a buffalo chicken dip.

I had like a bean dip. We had a spinach dip. Come to think about it, I didn't eat dinner unless you just count. Uh The dips. And I guess this.

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Terms apply. Visit wellsfargo.com slash active cash visa, proud sponsor of the Olympics and Paralympic Games. I think um The Sam Darnold part, I think there's a lot of people that are happy to see that Sam Darnold won. And I Think it's got to be pretty shitty to be a Vikings fan right now. There's gotta be a pretty Pretty shitty.

Pretty shitty. situation. I mean, we we were worried when Favre Left. That he would win a Super Bowl somewhere else. And then he went back to Minnesota.

And they beat the Packers, and you know, they had a shot to go to the NFC Championship game. Obviously lost. To the Saints. I remember that game because I immediately went to nfl.com. Or NFLshop.com.

And I bought. A Saints NFC Champions shirt. Because they beat Favre.

So that that would be that would be um That would be pretty shitty. If that happened. But it didn't.

So is it worse then? Like, if Favre, if Favre won a Super Bowl, that would be shitty. But we still had all that time with Favre. We won a Super Bowl with him. He was old, still left.

Okay. And then one, that's different. Sam Darnold. Bounced around. He was with New York.

He was with Carolina. He has been to a Super Bowl with the Niners. People Forget. But then he latches on to the Vikings. And Sam is still, he's 28 years old.

So he's still relatively young, like We think there's a lot more time of Jordan Love.

Well, he's 27. Sam Darnold's 28. And the Vikings were getting credit for rehabilitating his career. And then they let him go.

Now when they signed them They then drafted McCarthy. They signed him first because free agency comes first. And then You go ahead. And you Draft McCarthy, which, you know, I get. But then Should they have gone with Darnold?

Hindsight being 2010, if you have my eyes. Yeah, they should have. But I think that was something. We've talked to Matthew Collar about this: Purple Insider. That's been something that.

We probably could have said yes. Uh before Buckshot says Sam Darnold goes into the Trent Dilford class of mediocre quarterbacks to win a Super Bowl because of an elite defense. I don't know. Are we sure Sam's not going to be back? He played well against the Rams.

Yeah, this defense was. the better unit of the two, but the the the Niners Or the diners. The Seahawks offense was good too. Um Forrest Jones says Kevin O'Connell would have been one and done with Darnold. I don't have the time or characters to type it.

We learn KOC prioritizes. Displaying his genius offensive play design over winning in other ways. Oh, so we call that LaFleurisms. Yeah. A floor would rather win a game.

Running the football and not embarrassing the other team than to actually let his quarterback throw. Unless it's Malik Willis. who L'Ofleur would rather have. But people don't like That take Of mine? I'm starting to yawn.

Uh I hope you're not. We got a little bit. I got to finish this one, and then I got to finish this one, and then this one. And then just take the four pack. Take the four back down.

Look, you're supposed to figure out on your own. How much you can handle.

Okay. We ain't sniffing the Super Bowl with LaFleur. I don't think so either. But We'll have to talk about that more. I saw in policy's comments about.

Staying out of the emotions, and LaFleur's a good coach. And basically, the best argument that I've seen for keeping Matt LaFleur is. He's better than the guys that are bad. It could be worse. Nobody ever says like.

Matt Levin, well, the one time they credit him is when they give you his regular season record, which is dog shit the last three years compared to the first four. It's also very Aaron Rodgers. You know. Coded. Yeah, I don't know.

And then you have Mike McDonald winning a Super Bowl in his second year.

Okay. Rabel got there in his first. I just don't know what we're waiting for. But Packers brass has determined, and they're telling you: look, Bersace is still around. They're not getting rid of McMahon.

They're not getting rid of any. They're running it back. Even when teams say they run it back, they still tweak a little bit of it. This team ain't tweaking anything. The Packers are running it back, defiantly running it back.

They want. you to understand how little is going to change and how proud they are of it. No team in the history of the world is going to run it back. as harder. As the Green Bay Packers come 2026.

Bob says, I would never have thought McCarthy was better than Darnold. Huge air. This is a like the problem is, I get what the problem was. We It was Sam Darnold. Give him a one-year or give him a three-year.

You could franchise him. But then what? Then what? What if he's good?

Well, then yeah, yeah, yeah, they they fucked up. I mean Yeah. You have McCarthy. Because the Packers had Jordan Love for three years. While Rad Rogers played.

And then they got rid. They had to find out in a year if Love was going to be good. They determined that he was.

So they gave him 55 million bucks based off one year. JJ McCarthy had they extended Darnold and he was good. They could have gave him another contract, which their thinking was: well, then why did we draft McCarthy? And that's some cost fallacy. If you have a guy that can do it, take that guy.

You took two dart throws at it: one free agent, one draft. And the free agent looked like it was going to work out better. Penix and cousins were like the same way. And then the Falcons eventually moved on to Pennix. And now that he got hurt, and you know, I don't think that.

We're totally comfortable saying that that's worked out and that'll be right. Maybe neither of them do. But Pennix is a smarter play there. Than cousins is. But with the Vikings, it was not that cut and dry, and there were wrinkles to it.

So I get some of the hesitation. And I get some of the. You know, frustration and the indecisiveness, and really wanting to try to make it work. But They made the wrong decision. And worst case scenario for the Vikings, now they still went 9-8 somehow.

But if they went nine and eight somehow with That quarterback situation. What if you did just have competent Sam Darnold? And I talked about this too. Like, if you're. You're in the trenches.

And Sam Darnold's your leader. Because he's your contemporary. You're his age. Like these, these guys are all, they've been through the same thing, and then he leaves, and then like McCarthy's a kid. A kid comes in.

Think of high school seniors being We're all high school seniors, and now you're going to be led. Oh, no, actually, the quarterback's going to be an eighth grader. It's like the age difference. And I know they're in their 20s now, but they're still. They're still there.

Forrest, J.J. McCarthy is going to win big in this league. O'Connor refused to alter his offense for McCarthy. Most O-line combinations in the league. I'm not out on McCarthy 100%.

But right now Sam Darnold won a Super Bowl. There's no reason. That Seahawks team couldn't have been the Vikings. They were in a division that was just as hard as ours. We don't know.

how things would have played out, but You know, you play the season back a hundred times, and the Vikings have Sam Darnold. As their quarterback. How many times do they win the Super Bowl? Did you play that season 100 times? Five, ten?

They win. They win. So that's got to be hard for the Vikings. Uh Tonight.

So, what's harder? Because I think it's hard for the Vikings. I still think far of winning a Super Bowl would have felt worse. You know? Because Donald, he wasn't really there, but now Darnold, the rest of his career.

The Vikings are still going to be able to think. What if he was ours?

So Neither are good. When you have a guy and you trade him away, you... Want them to be bad forever, or when you get rid of them, you don't. That's the risk you take. That's why you're always trying to win trades.

Because you don't want to have regret.

So you don't want the guy that you trade to be good. Because then you regret, but then you have to make sure the guy you drafted. I said a long time ago when the Packers drafted Love. That for this to work and for it to pay off, love needs to win a Super Bowl, but so does Aaron Rodgers while we still have love. Why we still have them both?

That obviously didn't happen.

Now for the Vikings to have McCarthy work. Um You're gonna need to win a Super Bowl. 'Cause Sam's already won one the year after you let him go. Buckshot Bobby, I didn't laugh at one single Super Bowl commercial. I think Super Bowl commercials, I think.

I think they've I don't think we get back to that. I think some things are just lost. You know, like Friday night at Blockbuster. We won't even have the patience for that. Even if...

Even if that's what was back. Right. We all long for those days. But even if streaming was gone and you actually had to drive to your video store to pick one up, we'd bitch. And we'd quickly find a way to like.

Have somebody door dash us a VHS tape. Maybe that could have maybe that could have been. Maybe we could have we should have delivery drivers for VHS back in the day. But that's what we would do it. We long for it.

We wouldn't actually do it. Super Bowl commercials. They didn't used to cost $10 million, first of all. When they were funny, it took us by surprise. The best commercial, honestly, was probably the.

It was a Bitcoin one? Was it Coinbase? Because the T V screen for a full minute looked like karaoke. And I'm sure people. Started to sing.

In their living rooms across the world, wondering what this was for. Oh, fuck, it's Coinbase. But that was probably the most effective commercial. Because that's, I mean, that's the nineties commercial. with uh George and Urkel and Carlton.

I didn't catch it, but then people were like, oh, it's one I'll have to go back and watch. Again, I didn't see shit for commercials. I bitched about. But then I, you know. I'll have to go back and You know, USA Today ranks the commercials.

I used to like that when it was just a paper insert.

Now you can, you know. You can watch commercials, but. It's $10 million now, so they have to do a teaser. And then they have to put it out early. And then it happens during the game.

They're not, they're paying. They're not. Paying For it to be on the game anymore. They have to buy into the game so they can do all the other shit with it. They had to do all that other shit with it.

So It doesn't make sense just to spend $10 million on a 30-second commercial that people aren't even paying attention to. You have to put it out there now. And it's gotta live on. But yeah, a lot of time, you know what's really bad is when you see one of these like two-minute Super Bowl commercials. And there's celebrity cameo and there's Animals talking, and then there's a baby with a flamethrower, and then there's another crazy cameo.

And you're like, wow, this is messed up. And then they have to. Shrink it down to a 30-second commercial for regular rotation. Seeing Super Bowl commercials after the Super Bowl. Used to really trip me up.

Wow, that was what But now it's like super condensed. And it's like, what the fuck? What is this? What is this? It's just throwing a lot of shit at the wall.

And hoping something sticks. But the best commercials like Uh did Q say the Budweiser frogs before? You didn't know what you were watching. Er, but the commercial, that's why I think the karaoke one was good because. The commercial is going to be on the screen.

You have to do something in five, 10 seconds to get people to be like, well, what is this? And I don't know that they do that anymore. The same kind of It's the same script, it feels like. Uh all the time. With commercials.

But yeah, it doesn't it doesn't feel like The commercials are not as much of a part of the Big game as they used to be. I would say I used to feel like a The commercials. Where like 60% the game was 30%. And the halftime show was 10.

Now I feel like it's the game. Fifty percent in the halftime show, forty percent. And the commercial's 10. But this year, obviously, it was a halftime show. I mean.

Fuck him. Ninety-six fucking percent. Um so Seattle Seahawks They will most likely I would think be favored. To repeat, typically. That is what they do.

Let's see, DraftKings sports books. What are the odds? Seahawks and Rams are 10 to 1 odds. The bills 11 to 1. This is for next year.

Ravens, Patriots, Eagles, 13. To one. I think it's too early for a lot of that stuff. We didn't know. This time last year would be Seattle.

We didn't know they'd have Sam Darnold. We thought they'd still have Geno Smith. What's funny is when these quarterbacks started getting more attention. Oh, Gino Smith, Sam Darnold. They're not you can't put those two in the same class.

Geno Smith, I mean, he He's out of Seattle and he goes to the Raiders, and they're going to draft Mendoza now and then. Sam Darno goes to Seattle and they win a Super Bowl. I think Geno Smith is a big loser of tonight. Probably. We'll chat with Carlos Ortiz.

I believe EJ Stewart's going to join us too tomorrow. On our national perspective, we'll talk more about this Super Bowl and some of the topics that we addressed here tonight. Hope you enjoyed it. I hope you won some bets. Hope you won.

Some squares. Hope you want some numbers. I did pretty good on my bets. I told Horvat we need the Super Bowl. We're not going to need it forever, but we need it right now.

So I did good on my bets. I won on my bets. At a time where I need to win more than ever. I broke even on the night because I lost it all back on DraftKings lineups. Bait.

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