Yeah. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winkler versus Ibart Winkler. It's time for our National Perspective Show. Where I reteam up with Carlos Ortiz.
Ola of the Infinity Sports Network. Yeah, it's dead. Uh now Busting it on Westwood One on the weekends. Uh From the comfort of your home. Even better.
How was, did you get a lot of snow in New York? Yeah, no, we got absolutely buried. This is the most snow that has fallen, I think, in like the last five years. Luckily, I did all my stuff early enough. I did go out and brave the elements in the morning.
But um, now I came back well before I had to like actually do anything because I did work this weekend in the now. New Westwood One Sports, where you can download that content in the Westwood Sports app. 24-7 sports. Shameless plug. Only listen on Saturday and Sundays between the hours of one to eight Eastern, no.
So, you sit there in your living room at work for seven hours? Literally, what I'm doing right now is what I did the last two days. I got myself a nice little fancy desk, so I have all my stuff. And, um Yeah, I I I kind of Produce. Content, so to speak.
90% of the job is just editing. I'm doing podcast, like I'm editing three podcasts, doing all the crap that I hated for you.
Now I'm doing it for three other people. Did you ever get that job with the replay development crew at MLB? The link is still sitting in my inbox. I just, I don't know if I want it. It's not due yet.
You still have time, right? Yeah, I still have time. I mean, what, pitchers and catchers report in another four or five weeks?
So I should be good. If I want it. I don't know. Um.
Well, good luck. You might get more snow this weekend. Supposedly, I should be getting worse notes a day. Oh. We'll see.
That's what it's like around here, man. I've probably shoveled eight of the last nine days. Oh, no, no, no. We have people that do that. Uh, the the super buildings.
Well, I I'm a homeowner. Ah, yes, you have a yard and everything. Yeah, and I have what? I have your address. I'm going to post it.
Look at my eyes, dude. What are you not getting enough sleep? I don't know, I might be getting too much sleep. You know, it's weird that you mentioned that. Yet today and all last week.
I've been getting up at 6 a.m., 7 a.m., 8 a.m. I'm like, I want to sleep, but my body is just like, hey, you don't do shit. Get up and do something.
So I've been up since 6.30 for no reason. No, I I d I don't I pound these uh T H C seltzers for my boys at Happy Place Hemp. And my kid'll go to bed and then I'll pound two of 'em. And then I'll go to bed at like 9.30. Yeah.
And then I woke up at I think on Friday night I went to Saturday night I went to bed at 9:30. Yeah, I mean, we're old and unemployed. It's not a good combination. The um The bit around the house of Hey Daddy should be going to work right now. Oh, no.
That ended very quickly. We did that a couple of days and then that ended uh That ended very, very quickly. I have probably gained about 15, 20 pounds since. I got a new addiction now, it's eating. Yeah.
Yeah, I've tried to incorporate more greens into my diet. But then, like, all right, I've had this broccoli or asparagus and and that's cool and all. But let me house two hot pockets now, too, because I'm still starving.
So I'm just counteracting the good stuff with the bad crap. Yeah, I'll have greens in my diet, green MMs that come with the other ones. Yeah, I've been scarfing those down. I got two tall boys right here, just in case.
So gross. Uh I need sponsoredist and then I love Mountain Dew. On the Dan Shaney YouTube stream, you can see it's mountain to zero. Um And over in the corner there, I've got... I've got bottles from the other day.
Gross. And I got a Diet Coke bottle over there. Oh, yeah, that'll bounce it out.
So I've been pounding, but then I. Eat a lot more food. I've been snacking more. And then, because I get, so I used to stop eating at 6 p.m. Do the show, come home, eat nothing, sleep, wake up, it's noon.
That's an 18-hour fast without trying. Yeah. Now, I took my, I woke up. Get my kid to school, come home. Went to the grocery store.
Uh Talk to some guy on the phone. And then It's 9.45 and I'm starving. Yeah. So I'm throwing hot pockets in the microwave at quarter to ten. What do you think I'm going to have as soon as this stream is over?
I got two pepperoni hot pockets waiting for me. Oh, and I don't just eat the hot pocket. I got a whole thing of ranch that I dip them in. Plus, I mix it with the buffalo chicken, their hot buffalo sauce. Hi, Karamba.
I dip. My hot pockets into ranch. Like they're a chicken wing. That's gross. And I ate that at nine forty five, so now it's Noon where I am and I'm starving again.
Basically My thin days are over. Be a man!
So that's what I'm dealing with. How are you otherwise, though? You're good, buddy? You're good? You're good?
Yeah, I don't do anything during the week except go to the gym. And my weekends I slave away.
So I guess it could be worse. I've had all these projects. Especially downstairs in this basement that I'm like.
Okay. I have time. And I and I'm gonna d I'm gonna I'm just gonna get shit done. I ain't getting anything done. I get nothing done.
I don't even know what I do. I come home from dropping off my kid. It's like 8:45, and I'm like, the world is my oyster. I've got seven hours to hit the ground running, get so much shit done. And then it's gonna be 2.30.
I'm gonna be like. Fuck, I better get in the shower. Yeah, it's one that's my day. I don't even know what I've done today.
So far, this is the most productive thing that I've done, is in the last 10 minutes here.
Okay. Yeah. Water heater factory says Carlos. Except three exclamation points. Yeah, three of them.
Jeff says: Good to see you two together. Miss the show. Me too. I don't miss the network, the people. the commutes.
The uh you know the whole operation the parent company But I do miss Bart and I do miss the show. I don't miss the hours. No. The content. No.
Yeah. Yeah. The driving. Yeah. The prep Yeah.
But I do miss the fact that I can say Yeah, I have a show. Or yeah, I have a job. Yeah, I have a job is definitely a statement that I haven't said in the last five weeks. I miss I miss uh when people say So so what do you do? I'm like You ever heard of uh podcast?
My kid, I told you. I think I told you this. He saw me on YouTube the other day because I put my shorts on there. And then he asked me why I'm not a real YouTuber. Oh, what does he want you to do?
Like unbox toys? Unbox toys. He wants we've got a little like crawl space. He wants me to turn that into a secret room. Not the worst idea.
for YouTube video content. Maybe. Everything's up for grabs. Yeah, the world is yours, or you just don't do anything with it. I'm open.
Hey, last Tuesday, I went and rubbed elbows with Caleb Durbin. I'll have that. Yeah, how about that? Yeah. How is New York reacting to the Freddy Peralta deal?
And your wife's a Mets fan. Is she pumped? She didn't know who Freddy Peralta was. She's a fan. But no, but the people that did know, yeah, they're all in.
The prospects that you guys got back are going to be sorely missed by Mets fans. We've been hearing about Jet Williams since he got drafted three years ago. But I think it's a good haul for Milwaukee. And I think Eventually, if the Mets do pony up and sign Peralta or to an extension, which David Stearns has not done since he's gotten here, then I think Mets fans will feel better about the deal. But right now, they're like, okay, he's made some moves.
The offseason is not a total wash.
Well, I I think the thing with Freddie And you can pass this along to your wife. I'm sending her the link to this. He's not a guy that's going to go deep into games. Right. Yeah.
He's 100 pitches. You know, you're a tough guy. Best rotation, no problem. He'll give you five innings and get on out. 100 pitches.
There's going to be a 40-pitch inning at one point. Usually the first, sometimes the second. The Cubs got to him, Freddy. Freddy. I'm glad he's out the division.
I'm glad he's out the division. I didn't want to go see him played on a Wrigley. Coming up. That would have been no good.
So I just wondered if they're freaking out in New York or not. Nah, they like the move overall. I think I would say it's like 60-40 people are positive about it.
Well, they like the Mets have redone their whole team. Yeah. I mean, uh, because they swung a deal for Luis Robert Jr., which that was rumored since like, you know, the all-star break last year. I think that one was a little bit of an overpay, but you know. They covet him for some reason.
So maybe if he can give you 25, 30 home runs this season, that'll be pretty good for them. Not that I care about the Mets. But yeah, they got him. You know, Bo Bachette, glorified one-year deal. You know, he'll probably opt out next year so you can get a payday a Cody Bellinger, Pete Alonzo.
But yeah, they're happy with the new acquisitions. But man, it was bleak here a couple of weeks ago when they lost Alonzo and Diaz and all these other guys.
Okay. Carlos Ortiz, the pleasure is ours to see him. He's joining us here. This is our national perspective. Program where we take a look around what we would normally talk about on the former national show, which.
We're at the end of January. It's been five weeks since our last show. It feels like It never happened. Um or it's a distant memory. You know, you check around and see what people are saying.
No one gives a shit anymore. Where it's like it never, then this is what I, this is, this is why. This is why radio stations do what they do. I was all like, oh, no one cares about the listeners.
Well, why would they? Everyone's nobody nobody changed their habits. You're just listening to something else now. We were expendable. It's hard to process that, but we were.
So Dealing with that right now. We're brought to you by Happy Place Hem. Promo code is BART. 25% off each and every order. Oh, I should throw up the appropriate background since our Episodes with Carlos are brought to you by Carl's Place.
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I should have put. I don't. Dan Shaney, that link is in the YouTube, but he just. Yeah, I see it. Yeah, he uh he he lowered me.
He lowered my insurance again. Hmm. Yeah, without me even uh Ask him. All right. Uh main takeaway from the football games.
Either one. I mean, let's start with the AAA. Actually, let's start with the Super Bowl because that's what we saw last night. It was the Rams and the Seahawks. from the same conference playing for the Super Bowl.
Very entertaining. Usually when we say that. That's not the case. Oh, by the way, I got both picks wrong. I'm now 0-6 in my last two weekends.
The New England Patriots, the Seattle Seahawks. That's definitely company property I stole. Um, I thought the Seahawks Rams game was definitely going to be the Super Bowl. I'm not looking forward to two weeks because, like you, while I do believe the Seahawks are a better team, we say that. We'll doubt the Patriots for two weeks.
That's an awesome background. And then the Patriots will somehow win on a field goal, you know, for no reason. 17 to 14 will be the final score. You know, maybe Sam Darnold will be like, Well, you know, an interception just out of nowhere and the Patriots are You know, we'll we'll win in a fourth and Everybody will hate life and He Drake May and Mike Frabel again, but I The Denver and Patriots game, it was such a bore. I mean, I know the weather was a factor in the second half, but Sean Payton.
Really, in a game where points are going to be a premium. He thought he was the smartest guy in the room, not taking points, dumb play calling. You know, the Broncos deserved to lose that game. And it just further goes into the Patriots' lore.
Well, they haven't played absolutely anybody all year. They played one playoff team all year, a Chargers team with no offensive line, a Texans team that turned over the ball four times. And then the Broncos with no bow nicks.
So they're just have a cakewalk regular season. Cakewalk postseason and hopefully they get drubbed by Seattle by 40. Which won't happen. Again, the Patriots will win by three, much to my chagrin.
Well, did we know that it was gonna snow? People kept saying, like. Oh, it's gonna snow. Um Or in New England, and I wish this game was in New England because then we get a snow game. And then it starts snowing in Buffalo or Denver, rather, and it took everybody, it seemed, off guard.
Like, did we not know it was going to snow? Because that was the whole discussion with Sean Payton not kicking a field goal to go up 10-0. If he knew it would snow, maybe he would do different. I I I there's a there's a couple of There's a couple of referendums and talking points. that are happening off of these Two games.
Um Won the fourth down thing, because then people were critical of McVay. for not going for a field goal because they eventually got the ball back. But I feel like in McVay's case. Um In McVay's case, I'm going for it there. I agree with you.
I didn't hate the call. Four minutes left. Yeah, four minutes left. The three points don't help you at that point. You know, you're assuming you're going to get another possession, but you don't know.
So I would go if it's under six minutes. Or five, whatever. Yeah. I'm assuming I'm not getting the ball back. Correct.
Me too. I don't think I don't think you can. The way you score is on offense. I mean, you can score on defense, but the way you score is on offense.
So. I want the ball to try to score. I don't want especially if I do something where it's like Oh, I stopped him, but then I get a taunting penalty. You never know what's going to happen. Right.
And the way that, you know, Bo Nix was doing a week ago where he's just like Fucking I'm just gonna chuck it up and hope to get a PI, which happened. Yeah, I'm I'm going for it there if I'm McVay. Yeah, no, same. I had zero problem with the call. Again, I think people are just, you know, looking at this 2020 that, oh, hey, he had an opportunity to take the lead at the end with a field goal instead of only having 20 seconds, no timeout, and you got to get into the end zone.
You didn't know he was going to get the ball back at that time. You know, you can't assume that.
So, like you, I thought it was a good play call. And, you know, the defense just made better plays. That's what happens. You pin Seattle back, turn over on downs, and hope that your defense can get a stop, which, you know. That wound up being the case.
But no, I think McVay should get a pass, even though he's not going to. Peyton should get dragged because it was early into the game. And whether or not we knew the weather was going to be an issue, they had to have known. That the forecast had some snow in it. Like, I don't think it caught the teams by surprise, uh, because it didn't sound like it caught the broadcast by surprise.
It seems like they knew the snow was coming.
So, I had to think that Peyton and his coaching staff knew that it was going to snow, too.
So, he should get. Absolutely drag for a dreadful fourth uh fourth down call. Got a tweet here from Thanks Evan. You said no one changed their listening habits. Might be true for everyone else, but not for me.
I actually deleted our local station in my favorites list and haven't listened since. Nice. They don't employ me anymore. I don't care. You're on those same stations.
I don't know who's a Westwood affiliator or not. And again, only listen between the hours of 1 to 8 Eastern on Saturday and Sunday. No, no, listen, listen, listen whenever.
Now, you know what? The industry needs another alternative. Listen, listen all the time. In fact, I'm going to download the app right now and just have it in the background. Yeah, you download that app.
I'll say something without you. I'll remove you to not incriminate you. Uh listen away. I went listening to Jim Rome, but. You guys can listen away.
There. Look at there it is. You got the app? The Westwood Sports One Sports App. Yeah.
I do not have it on my phone.
Well, it's a good thing it's free. We can listen to our favorite programming together. Yeah. I did download the new TikTok called Upscrolled. The hell's that?
I don't know, everyone's mad at TikTok now. Wired, you know, they realize that it's now a Chinese company that you know took bribes from Trump. It's not Chinese anymore.
Now it's American and now it's not working. Huh? That's why, because it's American. Yeah. Um All right.
Well, thanks to Evan. Thanks, Evan. The Sean Payton decision. They're up 7-0. They have Jared Stidtham.
Mm-hmm. I think you got to take the points.
Now, both of these, like you said, we're looking back hindsight 2020 or 2010 for me. Um but I did You gotta do. What the other team doesn't want you to do. That that that's It's I don't know why that hasn't caught on more. Like Greg Olson's constantly writing chapters about why you punt or don't punt.
Like No, no, no, no. All of this is very simple. Analytics don't need to be this complicated. Do what the other team doesn't want you to do. Seattle did not want the Rams to go for it there because they could have scored.
That's why they went for it. The Patriots probably did not want the Broncos to go for it. Or to kick a field goal 'cause then they're down two scores. And they got a really good defense, Denver does. And you don't know what Jared Stiddam's going to get you, snow or not.
Payton, and then they didn't score again. After that, did no one score in that second half? That was.
So that's the other. I think the Patriots got one field goal. That was it. And cause then everybody else, everybody kept missing kicks after that. Yeah, seven, seven and a half.
Yeah. Yeah, and those kicks never had a shot. No, none of them. Jeff says, don't feel sorry for Peyton. He doesn't.
I don't. Carlos doesn't. No. Zero. We don't like this guy.
Well, he acts like he's the smart he acts like he invented football. Yeah. And then and then he gets out there and he's blaming everybody else. Yeah, I'm not a Sean Payton guy, never have been. Never will be.
Uh I do cherish when my Opinions on people get vindicated or validated. Look, I don't want, I don't want to not. This is my big thing right now. I don't want not to like him. But I don't like people that aren't good people.
That's it. If you're not good person, I don't like you. If you're a good person with bad tendencies. That well, then I love you 'cause you're me. Yeah.
But I'm a good person. I'm not. I'm flawed. I'm deeply troubled. Uh But but I'm a good person.
And that's that's how you know you're a good person, is you have to say it over and over. and convince yourself So the other thing. That's going to come out of the games. And I would be. I would probably spend Two hours on this tonight.
I'd probably If we had a show tonight, I'd probably talk about. The games. And the Super Bowl, and I'd say, Are you excited? And You know, I I'd I'd talk about it, but really like not dig into anything in the first hour. Second hour, then I would just rail about stadiums.
And then get in the field go stuff later. But I saw so many people. Because what's been the trend in football? New dome, new dome, new dome. All these stadiums look the same.
They're mass-producing these things off an assembly line. They all look the same. And then people are lamenting the fact. That Denver, New England's not in the snow, then it becomes in the snow. And then I see this take.
From a lot of people. I don't have names, but I just I noticed And there seemed to be more of a You know Once once someone says it, someone else will say it. Once it's acceptable, is I'm all look, I'm all for snow football. But to decide a trip to the Super Bowl, we can't be having that. But I saw a lot of people.
A lot of people that like I wouldn't have thought would said it.
So, I don't know if they see that this is what's happening, and you're just trying to tell yourself, you're trying to convince yourself this is the right thing. Or if like Big Dome is paying some of these influencers. Cause it just seemed like you know how like when something happens, there's a Targeted like You see these pictures where 40 people said like the exact same thing. Worded the same. Um And this happens in local news.
They always show that clip of like, The local new, but that's because there is a company that owns all these stations and they feed him the copy.
So I'm wondering: are there influencers that are a part of some NFL program? to turn the tide. 'Cause the older I get, The more into conspiracies I am, the less I trust people. The more I think something's fishy. Especially now as we go.
Further into a society. That profits off rage. Of course people are going to get paid. to influence The conversation on social media, if they're real to be.
Now, I'm not saying, don't Paul Allen me.
Okay. I'm just I'm saying that people are I'm saying I want a piece of the pie. But I would never do that. I would never go against my values because football should be played outdoors. Everybody's been saying that all year, Carlos, and now all of a sudden it's like.
Well, we can't decide a trip to the Super Bowl on the line. It's like, yeah, that game sucked. But it didn't sound that's what you like. The weather should be an element. No, I think as a society, we have accepted that we want to see the quote-unquote we want robots to play the game.
We want every rule to be officiated to the pinpoint accuracy. We want always to get it right. We want. Oh, the weather not to influence. We don't want anyone to make mistakes.
We just admit it. Hey, humanity, just admit it. You want robots in sports. I don't want robots. I don't want robots.
I do want robot umps in baseball. Like that, that I do want. No, I think collectively, if you got rid of weather, bad weather in football, like snow, rain, all that stuff. I think people will sign up for it. I honestly think we're going to see every single game be in a dome.
in the next 10 years. Hopefully, to destroy MetLife because that one, that cinder block is disgusting. And the Jeff needs to get the hell out. But no, no. Watching that, watch, watching the second half of that game, I was just like, just put me out of my misery.
Like this is in football. You have missed kicks. All it is is exactly what football is, Carlos. Absolutely not. You know, now that the Detroit Lions are good in a dome on turf.
That's real football. Yeah, fast action, scoring points. Pumping sound into your stadium like the Seahawks. The Seattle Seahawks. That's football.
Artificial stuff. Fake. That's what I like. There you go. There you go.
Well, who's still outdoor? I've got the list.
Okay. Who's the Giants and the Jets? Pittsburgh's never going indoor. You say that. Say Mike.
All right, Bartometer. The last stadiums to go indoor.
So I'd put Pittsburgh on there. Kansas City's going to a dome, right? Yeah. Isn't Cleveland's new stadium going to be a dome too? Chicago's is gonna be a dome.
What about um Charlotte? I Don't No, I think it is a dome. It's open. No, it's open, but they'll go to a dome. Probably.
Um Jacksonville. I mean, they'd have to get money in order to get a new stadium. Jackson had a fucking dome. I would say they'll get a new dome when they move to, like, you know. Frankfurt or something.
You know, wh wherever their new home is, it's gonna have a dome. I went to a game there. It was 106 degrees and they ran out of water. Oh, geez.
Okay. Um New England? Yeah, once they win the Super Bowl and get all that extra cash, they're going to go into a dome. Miami's not a dome, but they got covering. Buffalo just built new, not dome.
Lambo's never going dome. Big Dome says otherwise. Kill that music. Don't you like conspiracies? I can't play any of this shit.
Oh, that's right. That's copyrighted. I completely forgot. I gotta fly. If you want music, I want music.
I play uh generic uh copyright music. Of course I have cough button and then use it. All right, you got me? I do. I just I unplugged the wrong thing.
Cool.
Well now I don't have my sick Light on.
Okay. Here we go. Yes, your light is sick. Dim the light. Kieran, dim the lights.
Yeah, don't dim it. I have natural. I'm in a basement. You get nothing. You lose.
But Dacer! Um Ravens? Giants are outdoors. Commanders are moving inside. Cincinnati's still outdoors.
Tampa Bay is outdoors. I don't know. I think you're right. I think we're going to start to look at it. I said this last night.
We're going to start to look at it where it's like. Oh my god. There's a. There's a baseball diamond in the middle of that field. It's crazy to think about that.
But what I also said last night is, it's not, this isn't something bad for you. Like, we don't need to phase domes away. Like it's smoking on airliners. Football should be played outside. I can't believe we're getting this.
New York, when they get a new stadium, that will for sure be in a dome. 1,000%. Because they want Super Bowls. These aren't even domes. These are conference centers.
They're all Similar, they all look the same. Let's go to your local CB center to watch a game. The same, it's terrible. Yeah, just like the new restaurants. You know why?
Because, you know, if a Chipotle closes, then a McDonald's can take over. And, you know, just all they got to do is replace the signage. You know, what are you going to do with a big ass M? on the top of your restaurant if you're if you're an Arby's, you know, like. Everything's got to be sterile.
No color, no personality. We have lost. We have lost the vibrancy of our lives. Greg says hello from Waukesha. Hello, Greg.
I'm glad you're not from Michigan. who has found his way into uh the new network. Yeah, he forgot about me like a low fire. Oh, really? Greg is a whore, pimping himself out to the highest bidder.
Do you guys put them on every time? I don't put them on at all. I don't think he knows the hours that I work on. But I don't screen calls, not yet. Oh.
I do nothing. Actually, no, I am the backbone of that show. Yeah, on the backbone. Just in case you're listening. Greg says, why did the Packers get a defensive coordinator that went 3-14 and was fired from Arizona?
Because he was the least threatening guy for Matt LaFleur's job. Yeah. Dead, and he actually is a pretty solid defensive coordinator. I mean, he won a Super Bowl with the Eagles. I thought that, I honestly thought that.
No, oh, yes, right, they did lose that one.
Now, I still think the Gannon hires is an upgrade for you guys, going from half-lead to Gannon. I don't think you skip a beat. If anything, the defense gets better.
Well, I think a lot of Packer fans are like, they don't care until they see if he's in the booth. or on the field. That was a big because Jeff Hafley sat in the booth. Yeah. And then That's like a minor thing.
Norma I feel like I feel like if you if you're like Bart That's got to be something you hate when fans say that. No, I actually agree. Get his ass on the goddamn field.
Okay. You want to see what it looks like? Buy a ticket. We have to sit up there. You get to be on the field.
Don't ever get to be on the field and then not be on the field. That's an affront to us all. Halfly fit into Green Bay because he'd rather sit down to watch the game at Lambea than stand up and actually fucking make a difference. Yeah. Yeah.
Ha ha ha. Everybody's sitting on their hands just like him. They're doing the Halfley. I never got super into Halfley. People, he was a smooth talker.
He already won the press conference down in Miami. I'm not so sure about that. Dude, he looked uncomfortable. John Eric Sullivan looked like he was talking through Halfley. Like, I don't know.
I thought Halfley looked like a puppet in that press conference. Luckily for them, there was a press conference that was even worse, and that was with Terry Pagula and Brandon Bean out in Buffalo. That might have been the worst press conference of the year so far. But no, I don't think Halfley looked all that empowered. Oh, yeah, they buried Keon Coleman.
Guy's still on the team. And then all those videos come out where Bean was in love with Coleman. Yeah. Yeah, I don't get how he survives this, but Pagula looks awful. He looks awful as an owner.
And this is why these billionaires need to not talk. I think there's a non-zero chance. That they rehire McDerm McDermott. Yeah. That they're just like Shit, it is bad out here.
Those people that are like, well, who would you hire? They're right. I mean, we're interviewing Philip Rivers, who is bailing out of us. The fact that Philip Rivers was even rumored to get an interview, and he doesn't pull out of anything. Yeah.
He might have another kid on the way right now. No, that's an absolute. That was today's stolen Twitter joke of the day. Yeah. I stole that one.
I looked at it online. I'm like, that's not that funny. And then first chance first chance I get to use it, I do. Yeah, and it and it was funny. Just a complete Fucking sell them.
Yeah, who him. I was saying boo earns. Yeah. Well, don't get too crazy. Terrible.
I don't deserve that. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Who gong me out of here?
At least my drops make sense. Yeah. Oh. I don't know why it goes on so long. Anyway.
Um so yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do. What do you think about McCarthy and Pittsburgh? Oh, that's such a mid-hire. Yeah, I think he's going to break the streak in terms of coaches who are going to win a Super Bowl with the Steelers. I think it's.
My first thought, and I'm not even kidding, was LOL. And the reason why I thought it was LOL is because it's such an uninspired hire. And it's not like he's a bad coach. It's just, I look at him aesthetically, he's easy to laugh at. Isn't that fair?
I know, I know. It's such absolutely low-hang, like low, lazy, lowbrow analysis by me. He really is a good coach. I saw him won 12 games with the Cowboys for years straight. He really is a good coach.
It's just If you're going to move on from a guy like Tomlin, you need to go. Really like.
Something that's going to get the fans excited. McCarthy, it feels like it's a year late. And also, it really feels like the Steelers are like, okay, we're good with the standard that Tomlin just sent. Basically, we want to be the Packers of the AFC. We just want to get into the playoffs, get into the playoffs, maybe win the wild car round.
But if we get knocked out in the divisional round, that's totally okay. Art Rooney, in fact, said he's just like, we're not going to rebuild. He's like, we're going to go for it every single time.
Well, if you're going to go for it every single time, you're not going to be in a position to get a good quarterback. I mean, what quarterback has in free agency that you're going to get this year? You're going to pony up for high upside, you know, question mark Malik Willis? You know, you're going to give Daniel Jones or Aaron Rodgers more money? I don't know what the Steelers are going to be.
I think this hire is only good. if they find their long-term option at quarterback and it maybe it's will howard I doubt it, you know, being a fourth-round pick, but the Steelers aren't going to get anybody in the top 10, you know, anybody next year if they're going to try to contend.
So, I thought it was just such a lateral move. Uh, to hire McCarthy because, again, they're like, hey, just get us eight, nine wins a season and get us into the playoffs, and we'll see what happens. I don't know. If I'm a Steelers fan, I am not enthused about this. Just Oh shit, I just played ourselves.
Remember the night that we worked? And Jacob Mizarowski made the all-star game. Jacob Mizakowski? Yeah, I don't have that drop, by the way. And everyone was so mad, and people were just like, what an affront to the game popping off.
He only had five stars. Yeah. Did you see who made the Pro Bowl? No, I don't even look at that joke of a thing anymore. It's I understand it's now it's just Exhibition games and flag football and all that crap.
I'm not looking when Tyler Huntley made the Pro Bowl a couple years ago. I'm like, I'm out. That was literally this last straw for me.
Okay. Okay. Is it worse than Huntley? Yeah. Okay.
All right. Now I'm interested. Um I'll just show you. No fucking way! Shador Sanders made the Pro Bowl?
How is that possible? Right. His fucking team didn't even want him to play. That cannot be real. Stand by.
There's no way Shador Sanders is in the Pro Bowl. Yeah yeah. Yeah. He's in. Easy.
He's in the room. What the? Wow.
Well, well Oh, what was Tyler Huntley's thing? He gets to replace Drake Me. No way. 1,400 yards, seven touchdowns, 10 picks. He was three and four.
That's Pro Bowl? Wait, what did I What did uh Shadur make it as? What were his stats?
So again, he threw for 1,400 yards. He had a 7 to 10 touchdown to interception ratio. I don't even want to go to the record three and four because, you know, who gives a shit? You know, his defense was good. I think Shanor won like one game, to be honest.
The defense probably won the other two. And it's the Browns. Sanders is going to be the first Browns quarterback since Derek Anderson to make the Pro Bowl in 2000. Hundley might be worse.
Now In 2022, Huntley started. Four games went two and two. Through for six hundred fifty eight yards, two touchdowns and three picks. I stand corrected. It is Huntley.
This is worse. Huntley's statistically is worse, but. That's Awful. You cannot have Shador Sanders.
Now, Shaddor Sanders is going to, he's going to think he's good.
Okay. Uh Alright, so he's in for Drake May. Yeah, that that makes obviously it makes sense because May's gonna go to the Super Bowl, but Wow. Uh update. I can't stop looking at this.
This is terrible. Look at the rest of the stuff. Drake made Josh Allen and Justin Herbert. We're supposed to go to the Super Bowl. Or is it a Pro Bowl?
Josh Allen's not going to go because he's a bitch. And Herbert's not going. 'Cause he's also a bitch.
So Then I think what happens is people get asked to go. And they don't want to go. Yeah. Because you know Why are you gonna lie? Anybody asked TJ Stroud or Joe Burrow or Aaron Rodgers?
These guys don't wanna fucking go. No, no, no, no. They don't even want to go when they're, you know, when they actually make the team initially. According to Scott Hughes. Who's replacing Stafford that that's time?
Oh, wait, that guy's the fake guy. I blocked him. Never mind. I saw it on Twitter. Um The NFC roster is going to go upside down to tattoo because it was supposed to be Stafford, who was the starter.
He's not going to go because he's going to go home and lick his wounds, although he'll win the MVP.
So good for him. Sam Darnold's going to the Super Bowl, so they're going to replace him. and dak prescott's the only dak prescott's going to wind up being your starter for the nfc Well, they just do a Pro Bowl anyway. It doesn't matter. Yeah.
So he went ahead of Tua. He's ahead of like fields. He's ahead of Lamar. He's ahead of Trevor Lawrence. I mean, a lot of these guys.
must have said no. I'm sorry, what are Trevor Lawrence and Lamar Jackson doing that they can't go anyway? You get a free trip to wherever tropical climate that they're hosting this Kakamani Pro games anyway. Just go in there, throw a football and leave. The fact that Shador Sanders is going to the Pro Bowl is absolutely maddening.
Maddening. He might not even be on the. I was going to say he might not even be on the roster next year, but he probably will be. Yeah, he's got better stats than when Huntley went. Yeah, but I mean, obviously, nobody was like clamoring for Tyler Huntley when he made to the Pro Bowl.
But I'll say this again, because this happened to me. I was an All-Star. My senior year of soccer. I forgot about this.
Okay. I was an all-star. How did I get that award?
Someone else bailed. Yep, and then there are about nine or ten people that kept bailing.
So then I think they knew my dad. was a coach and they're like. Oh, isn't Winkler's kid the goalie? He'll come play.
So I went and I wasn't going to go because I didn't deserve it. But then I don't know. I got convinced that my grandpa was really proud of me. Yeah. So I went, and then I got there, and they realized quickly: oh, this kid sucks.
I was like a make-a-wish kid. Yeah, I only played normally, they do one goalie one half, and then the other goalie the other half. They submed you out. I only played 20 minutes.
So the other guy plays the I did I did get like five minutes in the first half in the field. How many stops did you get? When I was goalie, I did make a big breakaway save, but I also let in a goal, and we lost 2-1. Nice. Yeah.
So did you let did you let in the first goal or the last goal? They call it the game winner. Yikes. I let in the game winner. Nice.
Yeah, pretty bad. Oh no.
So who do you like in the Super Bowl? Patriots are a four and a half point dog. I don't know, man. It does suck that it was Patriots forever, then Chiefs, now Patriots again. Yeah.
So I don't like I don't like I think if they wore their old jerseys, I would like them a lot more. I don't like these off-brand of the Brady era. These jerseys are terrible, they're gross. Um, if both teams were their throwbacks, that'd be sick as shit. But I I'll take Seattle like everybody else, but I see that old Seahawks.
I kind of feel like the Patriots are going to win. Yeah, my heart is gonna go with the Seattle Seahawks, but my brain is gonna go with the New England Patriots. Because I've seen this movie before where we all count collectively as a society. And as a sports, we'll count a team out. And all the facts will point to why this team cannot win.
Like in the case of the Patriots, they haven't played anybody. Cupcake schedule. All the breaks happen for them in the playoffs. There was almost a tuck rule in the very same game with the break, with the Broncos and the Patriots. It was another tuck scenario.
Um It's going to wind up being Patriots over to Seahawks 17 to 14. That's your final score. No, there'll be more points than that. If there it let's tell you what if it's If the over-under is 20 and a half. And you pick under, then the Patriots are going to win.
If it's over. The Seahawks gonna win. And I'm talking about individual team scoring, not total of the game. Not total, yeah. Like if if if neither of the teams break 20 then the Patriots are going to win.
If anyone's going to score over 20 points, it's going to be the Seahawks. And then it won't even be close. Then it'll be like. 30 to like. 30 to 17 Seattle.
But um as much as I think that Seattle's far and away a better team.
Somehow the Patriots are going to win on some field gold bullshit. Controversial call, go New England's way, and then everyone's going to slurp Drake May and Mike Vrabel for four months. Did you?
Well, they will. People want the Patriots to be good. Not me. I want Sam Darnell to win. I really do want to win.
I do too. Because what a fascinating trajectory from his career. He would have. I'm not, he's not going to obviously be a Hall of Famer. People are just going to change the narrative of his story.
They're going to talk about how he's persevered, he overcame the Jets. You got drafted by the one of the worst teams in the NFL. Then you go to Carolina, and everyone forgets about you there. The Vikings. Where who you won 14 games with, say, no thanks.
We don't need you. We have JJ McCarthy, of all people. And Then you go to the Seahawks, who gave you a nice organizational, friendly contract, three years, and you win a Super Bowl with them. I'm rooting on Sam Darnold wholeheartedly, which is why Drake May is going to win. I uh don't like Mike Vrabel.
He's a pompous ass. But I think what I don't like about Mike Vrabel Is Mike there's There's certain guys that are assholes. And people recognize their assholery. Yeah. And then there's another kind of guy.
Who's an asshole? But People want Them to be an asshole to them. Like people. You know what I'm saying? I gotta find the better words, but.
There's like a type of guy. Who's a little Overbearing, but it's like I want. Like some people want to be Kind of like People want to be led. People want strongman to lead. Yeah.
So they can't think for themselves. And those are Mike Vrabel lovers. Then again. Mike Rabel's the exact kind of guy that I'd rather have over Matt LaFleur. Sure.
But I don't want to see I mean, McDonald never sees his children, so. Yeah, what is he? It was reported that he only sees his kid like on a Thursday for half an hour. I think the lines got crossed in that anecdote. But it is a funny joke.
Do you know the Falcons interviewed both these guys when they hired Raheem Morris? Yeah, I mean, that tells you why the Falcons are in the position that they are right now. And that job's not going to be any good. Matt Ryan's not going to be your boss. What the hell did Matt Ryan do in order to get that position?
So we've got the Super Bowl. We can preview it more next week. Um I can bring up some NBA stuff, but the product's terrible and my team's awful. Yeah, and then all these injuries made the trade deadline a dud, you know, with Giannis going to be missing a couple of weeks. John Morant is going to be out for a bit.
I don't know what the hell's going on with Lamello Ball. He might be the most intriguing. Is he going to stay or is he going to go? Charlotte hates him. But you're not going to get a first round pick for them.
Uh so yeah, the NBA the product absolutely stinks right now. Plus, you know. I haven't watched the Bulls in like the last month, so. Did you see what happened with Giannis where he just got hurt? And after the game, he's like.
Four to six weeks. Yeah, he broke down his own timeline. I had that audio somewhere. Like, if you want, I'll play it. I'll just play it up.
I never heard someone talk, give their own timetable. He's like, I've been around the NBA. That's four to six. What are you talking about, man? I have to find this.
It was like, I wanted to play it all day or all weekend. It was crazy.
Now, I won't say it here, but I have told people. And like, uh You know, group text that like. I said, Oh, Giannis faked two injuries in one season, leads leads the league. But I wouldn't say that, like, publicly. Sure.
I can't find it. It it it existed though. Hm, I believe you. I believe you.
Next week, do you want to break down Winter Olympic preview? Is Google invited? I do want to talk about Lindsey Vaughn for a couple hours, if I can. She's our age. Yeah, she's a smoke.
I was still stalling to look for the audio. I can't find it. No, she's hot. I like the Winter Olympics is okay. I do like the Summer Olympics because of gymnastics.
I don't like any sport that has judges. Yeah, because then it's then it's just corrupt, you know, like. I'm supposed to listen to the color guy on gymnastics when talking about, you know, 14-year-old girls flipping. Oh, did you see the way that she did this pirouette? And they're like, dude, you probably never did gymnastics in your life.
No, it it it's all scam. I did gymnastics when I was seven. I am proud to say that I've never done gymnastics. I was the oldest kid and I think. There were like thirty kids.
Three of them were me and my two of my brothers. And I'm pretty sure I was the oldest, and I'm pretty sure. There might have been one other boy, but we were like the only boys. Were you trying to try out for the cheer team or the spirit squad? You know, you saw what Dolph Ziggler did, and we're like, all right, I want to be like that guy.
This is this is like Men and women sports. But they encouraged it 'cause the men were so bad. Yeah. I couldn't do shit. We are there to make every house feel good.
Oh, look at these guys. They fucking suck. Why does this one random ass family have three kids and girls' gymnastics? I gotta ask my parents about that. I don't know.
Just stand here by the balance beam and help us catch these chicks when they fall. I'm not even sure that really happened. That might have been a dream. It's so It's so like weird to think about it happening, that that might have been a dream. You bring it up to your dad.
Your dad looks at you like, what the hell are you talking about? Yeah, what are you doing? I've never been into gymnastics in my life. What the fuck are you talking about? Are we sure that didn't happen?
I think it might have not. Yeah. Carlos Ortiz. You can hear him on Westwood One Sports on the weekends. That's right.
Only 20 hours of one at eight Eastern. I'm not on the air. And that's seven to eight Eastern. I'm not on air either. Yeah.
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