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August 28, 2025 1:55 pm

The Green Bay Packers make a significant move by trading for Micah Parsons, a 26-year-old defensive star, in a four-year contract worth $188 million. The trade has sparked excitement among Packers fans and raises questions about the team's chances of winning the Super Bowl. Analysts weigh in on the implications of the trade and the pressure it puts on coach Matt LaFleur and the team's management.

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It is August 28th. It is a Thursday. I'm uh very Very much Just free and and and I have some time here. I took a few days off of work for the extended labor day. We're going to come back with the.

Bart Winkler's show, season premiere. On the Infinity Sports Network on September 2nd. But the question is. Do I need to Do I need to work tonight? Maybe.

I'm not gonna. But if there was ever a day It would be today, as maybe you haven't even heard. If you haven't, how? It's in the title of a video. And on the podcast, Micah Parsons is a Green Bay Packer.

Micah Parsons is being traded to the Green Bay Packers. Information on this is slowly trickling in, as you would expect, but he is going to be traded. To the Packers. They are going to sign him for a. Four-year contract for $188 million.

There will be $120 million guaranteed at signing. This is 47 a year. If I One, do the math right. Two, remember what I saw five minutes ago? He is the highest paid non-quarterback.

In NFL history.

Now what did we give up? When a trade like this happens. I don't know that it matters. When a trade like this happens You're just kind of like Fine. What did we give up?

Okay, well, remember when we signed Josh Jacobs and thought we had Josh Jacobs and Aaron Jones? We did give up a player. Uh and it's Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark. Um defensive tackle.

Who I think has not get he's not gotten the Benefit of the doubt, or really the Like Admiration that he deserves. He's a three-time Pro Bowler, if that matters to anybody anymore. First round pick, of course, back in 2016. Guy's been here a long time. He'll be 30.

In October, remember they drafted him very young, but he is going back to the Dallas Cowboys in this deal, along with two first-round picks. I would have to assume. That it's next year's first round pick. And then the year after that.

So 26 and 27. Which again, this is totally Totally fine. I can't understand, and I don't think there will be. Like if you see anybody Anybody on the radio or a podcast or whatever. If you see anybody.

Saying that they don't like the trade or they gave up too much. They're either like I would investigate them. I would investigate them. This is a trade. Like you have to do.

This is almost like Damian Lillard being traded to the Bucs. With a much with a much like higher floor. Even though at that time you thought there's no way. That this could not work. It's Giannis.

And dame. Uh of course. Of course it's going to work. Um This is different. Micah Parsons, 26 years old.

He's arguably the best football player defensively that the league has. And He is now a Green Bay Packer. Bet on him the other day to win the Super Bowl. 18 to 1 odd. Just threw a little 50 spot on it.

I would think that those odds change. I'll try to find those. Here, but they should be considered. The NFC North favorite for sure. I think there's going to be a lot of people that were going to talk about the Packers and say, yeah, you know, Jordan loved this.

Nine and a half wins. A lot of people are taking the under. They think nine wins. That's going to be shattered. Or that's going to go up probably to 10 and a half.

I mean, Micah Parsons is that big of an impact player, somebody that this defense has not had. Uh for a long time. We talked about on this week.

Some hypotheticals of what it would look like if Micah Parsons is there.

So that is something we recorded yesterday, but it's still. Um d I'm gonna Just still listen. I hope you listened already. Um Brewers lost today, by the way. If anybody, that was kind of we're following the game.

I went to the game with my kid and some of his buddies, and it's the eighth inning. I'm in the car. and I went to like check the traffic. And I got a text, it happened. And I thought there was a lot of different things that could have been.

But it was a good one. It was Micah Parsons being traded to the Green Bay Packers. The Potato Sisters say, ah. Lucas says, no way. Mark says, OMG.

Tyler says, amazing. Taylor says they lost, Dallas did. Luca and Parsons in the same. Year. Gerard says John Kuhn was onto something.

Inadvertently, he had no idea what was happening. Tyler says when Paul checks his TiVo tomorrow, he will be shocked. Mr. Positive. Way to go, Alberto.

Freedom boner. This is wild. Corey, it happened. What's it? Who's he?

We'll talk about it after this message. From Nice Ash. Brewers kill 8-2-3. Still not getting to NFC Championship, unfortunately. Get out of here with that.

Tyler groined up. Rick. Cowboys smart. Their tiny window was closed. Won't win a thing with Prescott at the helm.

Portland native, I'm losing my You did a poop emoji. I can't share it. Are we are we are we Oh, there it is. I thought I was being censored. around here too.

Let me just double check that I'm not. Shit. Good. Dave, this is fun. This is a big day.

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So let's talk about that. Let's talk about Let's talk about Bart, Uncle Barts. Let's talk about how I've been the last. Month. Uh two months, really.

I have said that all holdouts end with the team. and the player coming to an agreement. Because we've seen it happen so much. We've seen it happen with Brandon Ayuk and the Niners, a couple of different cases. Mick Bosa, we've seen it where Lamar Jackson throwed a trade request request.

We've seen that happen. We've seen a lot of different scenarios happen. I think Miles Garrett. Broke me? I think Miles Garrett broke me.

Like once He didn't get traded and he stayed for more money, I thought. I'm never going to go through this again. Because I think with these holdouts, a lot of times with these holdouts, It's just they they they they do They do the um Like Performance. It's all a performance. Is what it is.

and they're not gonna show up to camp and then they do to. Sign some autographs and then they go on a podcast and then the agent's looking for offers and then. You have the team saying We're fielding calls. And then what do you know, they sign it and it happens.

So I thought. And then we saw it with McLaurin, Terry McLaurin, and we saw it with Trey Hendrickson. I thought this would be a similar case. Yes, it's a little different with the Cowboys, but also maybe it's not. They've done this with Zach Prescott last year.

They did it with. CD Lamb last year. They've been doing it. with people for a long time. Um They've been doing it for the people for a long time.

And I thought, okay. Micah Parsons, probably maybe Thursday, maybe Monday.

Some way Jerry Jones is going to get this headline. And then you also had the Packers, the Packers, who famously are hashtag in the mix on Tony Gonzalez, Marshawn Lynch. Randy Ma, Sodell Beckham. Um Khalil Mack, you know, name your player. The Packers are used a lot of times as a Negotiating peace.

So now you had two things that I knew to be true. Guys always sign. Packers never get.

Well, two wrongs did make a right in this case. And Micah Parsons is heading to the Green Bay. Packers, how do you feel about the deal though? 188 Ms. Um, make it 288 M's, honestly.

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Wow. Paul What's funny I'll just be honest with you. Yeah. Um When I saw the news, I text Carlos Ortiz. And I said Man, I don't know.

I might have to work tonight. And then you text me. Bart, you got to work tonight. And then I go to you. It's just a job, Paul.

I was being, I was putting up a shield. Like, that sucks. There is some part of me that thinks I should be, but also. Let me have my I I we're building it for the season premiere on Tuesday. You have You have four and a half, five hours to figure this out, but like you have to do.

An hour, a segment, two segments. You are uniquely positioned. More than literally anybody. But I took off for a long weekend to watch a Badger game. I mean, tough shit.

That is irrelevant. You have to, you have to, I'm sorry. Executive decisions have been made. You got to work. You got to put in a quarter of a shift.

This is This is the BART story. There are stories that everyone can talk about. There are stories that you're. This is the BART story. And I know you were just summarizing it before I joined you, but.

A guy actually left his team. Yeah. Arguably the best Player among this really star-studded group of guys who have asked for a trade or put out their notes app message to say goodbye to their quote-unquote former team. Micah Parsons is the best of them. The youngest of them And he's the one that got traded.

He didn't get traded anywhere. He got traded to a team that you, I think, own? I own a p I own a part of the Packers.

So Yeah. Yeah, I'm, you know. You got to go in, or you got to do something. I'm not sure who's on right now. Is Gelbon right now?

You should be on with somebody, something, instead of just talking to me. But I'll enjoy our time while I have you. I don't know. I appreciate it. I was getting some texts and some emergency pods, and I'm like, I'm I'm driving home from a brewer game.

I'm trying to listen to the ninth inning of the game, by the way. By the way, spoiler alert, I'll watch tonight. Go ahead.

Okay, so I'm trying to listen to the last inning of the game. And then I'm also like Shit, I need them. Pay attention to this, and now I'm driving with two kids in the back, and I'm like, Texting people on my phone. You know, because this is something that needs to be, I mean, you can't. You gotta talk about it now.

You do have to talk about it now. And you were saying something just before you brought me in. about how this happened so close to the start of the season. Mike Parsons Is a better NFL player? Than Damian Lillard is an NBA player.

But it is interesting to me. It came to my mind as you were saying it. That This happens just like the Lillard trade, like really late. And you said the Packers won the offseason. That means obviously very little.

I mean, how many off-seasons have the Bears won? A lot. How many actual seasons have the Bears won? Very little.

So winning the offseason means nothing. But the Packers just annihilated Lee, like by leaps and bounds. Just won the offseason. It's not close. There's nothing else.

I mean, are they not the NFC favorite?

So, okay, so now it turns into an mm-hmm. I know you've been like literally yesterday, you were like the All that. All right. Spark guy's here. I see him laughing in the bottom.

Can I just vanish? Yeah, go ahead. You can laugh. I don't know what you're like. I'm not like And a comment, that's all.

Go ahead, I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh. They are the NFC North Favorite. For sure. For sure. And then if you still want to give it to the Eagles, that's fine, but There's a lot of people that think the Packers are going to win nine wins and have the seven seed They gotta ch I mean, that's over.

This is a This is Super Bowl. Look. Yes. LaFleur's already pissing me off. Yeah.

They got no excuses now. You lose it in a visional round. Quit. I want to hear from SparkGuy too. Let me just do one or two quick things, and it's all you.

Give it a letter. You were literally yesterday still being that they're gonna blow this in the flight off sky. Which Fine. But in terms of this being the all-in move, they don't now own their next two first-round picks. That's not normal.

Teams don't trade multiple first-round picks in back-to-back years. without being all, all, all in. This is the move. Like, this is like the, okay, we win now, or we. Probably rebuild in two or three years.

With the amount of money committed, with the picks committed, you're giving yourself a. Three-year window to win a Super Bowl. And that's awesome. Like, there can't be a single, like, Barb, we literally, me, you and Grant talked about yesterday. Like, there is no price too big to pay for Micah Parsons.

And we all agreed. Yeah, and this is still less than what the Niners gave up for Trey Lance. Is that what is it?

Well, I'd have to remember what the last one is.

Well, they didn't trade Kenny Clark. No, I mean, geez. But even if you say that's another first-round pick, but even that first-round pick is 30 years old and coming off his worst year. Um so all of this to say The Packers need to be considered locally, nationally, like this is now. Their conference.

lose or and i They have to think it's pretty resoundingly, right?

Well, Spark, I hears two comments directed at you. Hot take Jake says Spark Guy is coping so hard right now. You can see and hear the pain in his eyes and voice. Uh and Potato Sisters. My Man Spark Guy Fighting Back Tears.

As you're more of an affinity to our friends down south. Thoughts? I think that everything that was just said is completely true. I think. As I would say, somebody that's not biased by the Packers.

And I don't like them, but that's it. I play it even with them. This does mark a big, and I would view it, positive change if you're a Packer fan. Everything that was just said is completely true. This feels like it is.

I don't know if it's Murphy being gone and policy being in, but this does feel like for the first time. In my memory. That you can actually say, I wouldn't call it Title Town yet, but I would say they're trying to be Title Town. The trade makes perfect sense. It now puts them in the bucket with all NFL teams other than the Steelers.

that are trying to win Super Bowls. They're trying to win the Super Bowl. That's why you make this move. You make this move because This is you've decided this is your window. You're giving up draft capital.

You're going after a guy that's You consider yourself to be an impact player or two away from winning it all. And you went and got them.

So like I Like That this is the type of move that a team makes. that wants to win the Super Bowl.

So, I think that if you're a Packer fan, I just, my criticisms over the last how many times I've called in and said, like what they go for This is against that. And that's good. Like, if you're a Packer fan that actually wants to see them win a Super Bowl, they have to do things like this. And they did. This trade makes perfect sense to me because on the one hand, it's either Absolute success.

Or you're putting yourself in purgatory for a couple of years, right? Like But that's good. You want to win Super Bowls, right? I mean, not that their first-round picks are immediate impact guys, anyway, the way they draft.

So a couple of things I want to respond to on SparkCuy said real quick. One is this is not. The same as the Phoenix Suns' ownership, right? With Matt Ishbia and like the Packers are no. But this is like to your point about mentioning Ed Polissey's name.

I don't know to what degree that would play a role in a situation as unique as Green Bay and the Packers and the way it's structured, but it kind of feels like Matt Ishbia just bought the Packers and he wants his big splash move. I mean, that. I tended like I don't know the degree to which it played a role but A new President, quote unquote, like de facto head of the team comes in and they trade for. A three-time Defensive player of the year finalist who is 26 years old in his prime and give him the biggest non-QB contract in the history of the league. That's Uniquely timed, let's say.

If it has nothing to do with the transition, it's uniquely timed, a coincidence or not. And I think Bart and I are starting to believe less and less in coincidences as we get older, and that those coincidences don't actually mean something.

So My first comment was about Ishbia. Number two, I think, like when you say, like, well, a team that wants to win the Super Bowl, every team wants to. I know that's just repetitive. It's not a big. Very few teams.

would have not done this deal. I think any like semi-competitive team would have said four years and 108 million plus two. You don't think so? You think, okay, so Smart, I don't ask you. No, I would say any rational team.

No, I think any rational team. I would say I would have put the Packers in the bucket one year ago that they won. Like 30 teams would do this deal. They were not willing to do this kind of stuff because, as I said, and this is where Bart and I would disagree, in the past. They were Instead of like title town, it was really good town.

Like you win 10 to 12 games, you fill everything up, you never take that move that again, if you miss, you're probably going to fall back for a couple years, and that's going to affect all the economics of everything, right? This is a deal that, like, it's it's a lot higher reward, a lot higher risk. I think most NFL teams are doing. I think. Any rational team that wants to win the Super Bowl would do this.

I would not have put the Packers in that category even a year ago.

Okay. I yeah. I hear what you're saying. If I was a fan base that found out For sure. that my above 500 projected team Had a chance to get Micah Parsons for two firsts and a player like Kenny Clark, plus the four years, one, and my, and I felt like my favorite team said.

Too rich for me. I would be really furious at my team. Because if you are in the competitive bucket of teams who are you know, somewhere in the 9 to 13 win range. before getting Micah Parsons, and you can get Micah Parsons, it's why we said yesterday with Grant. There's not a price too big.

And that, and by the way, that's strange for me to say. I'm the prospect hoarder. I'm the guy who likes to plans for the future. Micah Parsons is a unique animal. And even before this became a thing that was real and was hypothetical, which by the way, Bart yesterday said 0% chance.

I said 0%.

So you got to take yeah you got to take that L. But yeah, this this is this is a to the fan base This is the biggest sign of like. Here we go. Here we go. Like this is all, all, all in.

We don't have a pick now for years. It's huge. It's obviously impactful for the team, but it is. And actually, oh, another thing I was going to say: sorry for the tangent thoughts, but we've. This is the opposite.

To Spark guys' comments a couple minutes ago of like what Bart will complain about the brewers not doing and the bites at the apple. The Packers like, we'll take two or three giant bites, please. And then what happened? And then maybe we'll suck for a while because we'll be so bloated over the capital, have no picks, but fuck it. We get Micah Parsons for this roster that was already an 11-ish win team.

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Well, this is the thing. First of all, contract-wise. He's making forty-seven a year. The next defender is like forty-one. I can't even process how I mean, I don't care.

Don't care. And the the concern with paying You gonna give Jordan Love all this money? Wh how are you gonna shine other guys?

Okay. Well, you figured it out. to sign other guys. And the Packers The Packers have been able to pull this off. Is Goody feeling pressure?

Is LaFleur feeling pressure? Because there's a new man in town? I don't know that they should be, but they also should always be feeling pressure. Yeah. And With the Packers this year.

Like This does change it for me in the way that it changed it with Lillard. Because it just felt like, even though it didn't work out, it felt like, okay, we know what's going to happen here. They're going to get to a certain point and then they're going to be done. They're not. Going to get back over that obstacle or the hurdle or the window or whatever.

This is a team that was going to. Win 10-11 games. Take second, win the NFC North. based on what Detroit did. They're going to win a wildcard game.

And then they were going to lose in the divisional round. If you don't if you if that's too much, Spark Guy. That's that's That's that's the ceiling, though.

So, if you think, like, there were this is a team that was going to make the playoffs before this, regardless. Maybe they win nine games, maybe they're the seven. I'm talking about. This is the team that's going to make the playoffs. And the furthest they would get.

Is the divisional round? That I just I don't I believe in Jordan love I don't believe in Matt LaFleur. I don't I still don't believe in him. This Changes that. And you're you're running out of excuses also.

So it's not like you've just traded like when you have Jordan love And okay, he was a backup, and now he's starting. You know, you still get like. You want to be good right away, but you still get some time to work with them, and you're not demanded a Super Bowl right away. Other than a ramp up of let's be in mid-season shape for Parsons. You got the best defender in the league here now.

So you put this time. Yeah, in these 26, you put them where you need to put them. You don't have like, okay, well, it was a year, it was the first year with Luca and LeBron. We're figuring it out. You don't get that.

No, you don't. You got Micah Parsons at the beginning of a season before you take your first snap. The expectation Is Absolutely Super Bowl appearance or bust. Yes. They lose that game.

We'll talk about it then. Sure. But they need to. Get to Matt LaFleur, who's had two MVP seasons of Aaron Rodgers, by the way. And A good season and an injured season of love.

Like he, this. He is running out of excuses. But we've mentioned the Lillard thing a couple of times. And again, Parsons is a better NFL player than Lillard is an NBA player, though they're both great at their respective sports. But, like, you do, like, let's say Parsons plays six games this year and he's injured, seven games next year, and there's no like.

To me, there's no Three years from now, looking back, of like, yeah, yeah, they shouldn't have done that. They should have been more cautious. As badly, under the worst case scenario of how this could go, you still do this. This isn't like Well, I sure wish they would have exercised caution because, you know, Parsons, what if he's. Anybody who comes out against this move is.

Yeah. the most transparent Engagement hunting. Like anybody, anybody who What are you going to question? What are you going to question? You're going to question the money.

The money is too rich. The picks are too many. You're going to question Kenny Clark. I didn't hear a lot of people on the Kenny Clark Bandwagon for the last nine years. You're going to question two first-round picks.

Look at our whole defense as well as first-round picks. None of them have done anything.

Now you got a guy in here who's going to elevate them all. There's there there is there is nothing There is nothing. That you can Poke a hole in with this one. There's one like where it's like you do scenario planning before you in any job or any profession. You use an aerial plan.

Well, what's the worst case thing? You. I'm of the opinion, like, you don't scenario plan. And, like, oh, what's the worst that could happen? You do this 100 times out of 100.

The other time, the other comment I want to make, and then I'm going to pause and let you guys say more because I've been saying too much. I also have to go meet my kids' teacher in like five minutes. They can wait. They can wait. Take a phone with you.

I want you to actually be keep can you keep doing this while you're there? Hey. The other thing I want to say, Bart, you, when you did like your, on the national show, when you did your stuff about which I'm off tonight, by the way. Which is just stupid. Which is, you know, the hot seat stuff, right?

Your favorite Packers reporter. which I know there's several of whom you fancy, but your favorite favorite, Matt Schneidman. He was on your favorite other national show, the Pat McAfee show. And he did say, I think it was this morning I saw it. Yeah.

That like Goudekins than La Fleur Are under pressure. That this is like a big moment in time for Goudekens and LaFleur. And he said this, of course, before the trade happened.

So The pressure on LaFleur just ramped up considerably. I think if you were to redo the hot sheet or the hot, you know, the hot seat, LaFleur's just went up like three or four spots. Because now he He just was given. And in his prime, best, one of the three, I guess I'll say, one of the three best defensive players in the league. The Matt LaFleur thing just happened, and I think, Bart, if Schneidman's comments on the Pat McAfee show were correct.

Uh, program, the program, sorry, if they were correct. Then There it then that means that Goudekins and LaFleur might have been operating. Under like a hate. We really got to push this Parsons thing because we are feeling a certain level of heat. And we can't just have another division around exit like Bart Winkler predicts we're going to.

We need to do more.

So, all of it to say, I'm wondering if you've only spent undervaluing. the degree to which the seats were hot for Göttingens and LaFleur. And if you were. And now this trade happens, I think Boudican's seat. cools immensely because He's been crushing for agency with Jacobs and Xavier McKinney.

Drafting, you know, when it's been, I guess, m I guess Above average, slightly, maybe, maybe average. But his seat's cool, but now the florist seat warms up a lot because now it is: oh, well, we lost in the divisional round, not acceptable. We're going to have to go get a coach who can get us further. He's got to get him to the Super Bowl. All right, I'll pause.

You guys talk. Do you know that the Packers uh the Packers? They play the Cowboys week four on Sunday night football in Dallas. That's awesome. Angli Tucci's here.

Do you know Do you know who they play in week six? In week six? Yeah. Pretty sure it's Aaron Rodgers. That's week eight.

Or week eight. I just hope he's still healthy. Micah can make him crack. You said this game was 11-win tops without a trade. Here's your trade.

What do you think? Here's my trade. And I agree 100% with Paul. I think Gouda can saved his job today. Um like And it just cranked up the heat on the floor.

And Ed Policy is my MVP. I've been saying for the last, like since they announced him, I was like, he's our only hope. Like, this is Leia at the beginning of New Hope. And Ed Policy, you are our only hope. And he cranked up the heat with his first press conference on those guys.

And. I don't know. I'm really excited. 'Cause there's literally like there was no excuses in my opinion for LaFleur to not succeed this year. Um and uh like It's to me Halfly is going to have like a top two or three defense in his second.

Year in the NFL, and he talks like the leader that we all want. I'd be shocked to read. Yeah. I would just be shocked if he's not the head coach of this team next year. That's why.

That's that. That's my guess. I wonder if Goody's like... Yeah, like. LaFleur.

I don't know is Goody like LaFleur? Does LaFleur like LaFleur? I don't think so. I think he has some negative self. Self-talk going on.

He needs to go to therapy. Does LeFleur like Lefour, 414 or 7 and 9? Will he be able to handle Parsons? I just think, and I'm gonna, no, I was out and I got a jump, but I'll say one thing. Will he be able to handle him?

That'll be the story. Because I agree with everybody, everything everyone said is like, this is the move you make when you want to win a Super Bowl. There's no qualms with the move. The downside is that you fall off of it if it doesn't work out. If Parsons gets hurt.

Or LaFleur can't handle the situation. The only thing I would say, and that's why I was laughing, Bart, tapping the brakes. We also have to remind ourselves. In the last three years, this is a team that if not if not for playoff expansion, Would not have made the playoffs. If not for that seventh seed, they would not have made the playoffs.

So, like, they've been an average to decent team at times. But he is something that hopefully gets them for Packer fans' sake. to the next level. But to say that they are now Super Bowl favorites because, or NFC favorites, When you start looking at a team like the Eagles, you look at a team even like that's retooled, but like a team that's always bouncing back the Niners, like, To just say they're the clear favorite, that is what, but the move was not what I was laughing at, Bart. The move makes perfect sense.

It is completely unpacker-like. If you're a Packer fan, you gotta at least be hopeful. They're trying to be title to, right? What? Who had a worse day than the Bears quarterback today?

Ugh. This guy has been raining on this. No one's raining on this. We're excited. No one's raining on this.

We're having joy. No one's raining on this. Yeah, so much joy. This is a great day. Yeah.

I mean is this gonna lead the national show, Bart? I'm on the show. What national show? You're off? Why do I have to go to the whims of what happens?

Because there's once in a well, once in a generation moves that you go into work for. I'm doing this. All right. I thought I'd watch the Badgers play Miami. Who gives a shit?

Do you guys let me read you the case? I got a career for an 11-week football season where I'm not taking a day off. Do you know the cap hit for Kenny Clark this year was going to be twenty million and then it's thirty one million next year? That's me.

Well, how much of that do they still have to pay is my question, though. No, I'm just saying, like, the 48 million that we're paying for Micah Parsons, like, if you compare the two. Like you're getting a lot more than twenty or thirty million of upside. The Capit for him, according to Spotrack, is 2.3 million. I don't know what this, I can't read this.

Forget it. I shouldn't even talk. Kenny Clark is under contract for $31.4 million next year. Packers get their guys, and Packers fans still talking about the Bears. I only brought up the Bears because Sparkai is a Bears fan.

That's why I brought it up. We're a Bears fan. We're not. All right, Bar, I know you gotta meet your teacher. I gotta run two Q.

Spark guy who's already left as This was awesome. Thank you guys for the emergency pod. Uh the season premiere of the Bart Winkler Show on Tuesday. I will see. Maybe I'll call in.

All right. This is awesome. Enjoy it. Have fun. Packers beating the Lions.

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