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I am Bart Winkler. Grand Pills, Paul Emig alongside. It is our edition of Mm-hmm. I was going to say, guess what they said. That's from my other show, guys.
That's from my other show. Should we just get right into it? Bull Melton is taking reps at cornerback. It's big. Bull Melton. Does this cross the threshold into national sports topic?
You know, on a week like this, it might have to. McAfee was talking about it. They were showing Andy Herman's tweets on the screen today. Oh, really? Yeah. Which wide receiver from your favorite team would you like to see try to corner? 4-1-4 or 7-9? I did have to.
Yeah, that's good. Jeff Janis. No one batted an eye when Travis Hunter does it. Now all of a sudden, Bull Melton can't give it a spin.
Oh, just go in the corner or is he a two-way guy? It is a copycat league. People forget his brother, Max Melton, is an all-pro corner in Arizona. People definitely forgot that. Actually, you know, it's funny.
I said it sarcastically, but I don't think that that's an irrelevant point to this. What? Because your brother can do something? You can do it? I think you're more apt to give that guy a try than you might to do that for Malik Heath. If Bull Melton's brother is not just a corner, but like a star corner. So you think if I was like sick, one of my brothers could pinch hit and do?
I'd say they have a better aptitude for it than most people's brothers. I did have to take a Jair. I was doing like an NFL sort of like, here's what's going on in the NFL. But then I decided I need to stretch Jair into a 15 minute packer segment because I just, I got very little to talk about this week.
There is just the, the covered is bare. See Rogers was doing you a favor just so you know, by waiting until mid June. I was pretty psyched when that news broke last Thursday afternoon. Cause it was like 90 minutes before my show started. I'm like, Oh, thank God. I was like, well, if I do 11 minutes on Elton Jenkins, that'll get me to the bottom of the hour.
And then like Caleb Durbin and Joey, like the Rogers thing was like, yes, good. So what's our, what's our guest behind his wedding ring. So was he, I know he was wearing it when it was at the Kentucky Derby, right?
Or something in a public way. But then is he not wearing it now? He signed the contract and made sure everyone could see his hand. So he was wearing it in that picture again, he's wearing it at practice today.
I just looked at some pictures of him throwing the ball. So does he just, does he want to be asked? He wants to be asked, right? Oh yes. And is he going to say like, you know, it's always good. He's like how I was. Remember that day I had a new Brewers hat and I wanted you guys to comment on it. I do remember. But then did you say like what Rogers will say, which is, Oh, I didn't want to be asked about my new, I didn't even, yeah, this is just private. My personal life is my personal life.
He is not, if he married a woman and it is a wedding ring, he will not refer to her as his wife. It will be partner. Yes.
Nothing can just, yeah. Oh my God. This is the most correct Rogers statement in our time. This is by the way, honestly, I forget the, any of the political or social political stuff that drives, you know, divides people on Rogers. The thing that's most annoying about him is that he just refuses to speak normally. Like instead of saying friends and family, he says inner circle. Like if he is married and it's to a woman, and even if we're blessed with the knowledge of who that woman is, he will not call her his wife. It will be his partner. And it's going to annoy me for some reason, which I think it's a harmless enough thing to get annoyed by.
I'm not sure it was Vax shit. It's only because it's just another way of Rogers saying, I'm going to choose language to be interpreted this. Sure. Yeah. I'm I'm an enigma. Did you guys ever know that I'm an enigma? You guys know that I've still not watched the documentary.
Does he refer to himself as an enigma? Well, I'm never going to watch it. Have you never grant? You did, right? No, I had a time to watch the live watch party. You didn't catch any of my show last night.
Paul, did you as her the first 15 or 10 or something so far? Sorry. So this guy calls, no, don't be sorry. I said it's somewhat sarcastic, sarcastically.
Sorry. But like also I usually do because I like national sports talk radio. No offense, grant, but like the local stuff is hard. I don't know. Like you do six hours of it a day.
Like that just feels grueling. Grant's got bone mountain today. He's got Jacob Miserowski's up foodie audio, LaFleur audio, love audiences. Yana says he wants to go back to the finals. Portas is going to opt in. He's got everything. Today's a big day. Actually.
We actually have lemons. This is the time of year where Clemens could just gorilla call at any time. I see the little hotline light up. That's just, that's a freebie that could happen tonight. Who knows?
Sorry. Oh, you know, I, I, so this guy calls in, uh, he's from Chicago. His name is Stanley. He's called before and he's like a big bears fan. So every time he calls, he's got a rib me about the Packers and he's, and he's like, yeah, so I got, uh, is that Stanley? He's like, I got a neighbor that moved in and I talked to her and I said, Oh, you're from the South side. You must be a Sox fan. She's goes, no, I like the Cubs.
And so right away that was a good thing. And then, but then I noticed in her garage, uh, that she's got a Packer blanket on a couch in the garage there. And I go, Oh no. And I find out it's from her boyfriend. So I'm thinking I got to give him a housewarming gift.
What do you think? Like bears cupcakes or, uh, something. And then I go, I go, I don't know if I'm just more of an advanced human than you and other people out there, but I do not make sports rivalries part of my personality. Like to, to have a neighbor that's got a different team and then to buy them a gift. That's about, you know how like some people and bears fans do it. Packers fans do it, especially closer you get to the border. It's like, you can't go a day without like, you know, being an anti agar about the situation where everything's gotta be a joke about the fucking Dallas Cowboys.
Here I am on the beach, same place. The Cowboys always are in January. The fuck content, you know what I mean? So it's like, not all, it doesn't always have to be about the rivalry. Hey, uh, Hey, Hey, your lawn, your lawn looks a little patchy. That's got a good, a good, a chance of being green as the bears got going to the super bowl this year, neighbor.
I go, you know what? My neighbor's a Cubs fan. You know how I know? Cause one time I saw him wearing a Cubs hat. Do you think we've ever talked about it since? No, the bears Packers rivalry concerns me six hours a year. I don't, I don't, I don't care.
That's reasonable. And he was like, heartbroken. Like this was not the response he thought he was going to get from me. He thought I was going to be like, Oh yeah, I got this great Packers idea. Oh, let me tell you about the story. I got a bear's family member. Oh, I got you. I got a real good one for you there. Hey. And it was like when Ralph Wiggum got his heartbroken on TV from Lisa Simpson. It was exactly like that. So anyway, I thought I'd bring that up.
I don't know if it would spur any reaction from either of you. It seems, I will say, I will say definitely been times though. I think Bart you're understanding a little bit because you cheat, you cheer more against like you've talked publicly about I'm cheering against the Vikings because I hate Vikings fans. And so like maybe that I saw somebody post yesterday, it's been 560 days since the Packers beat the Vikings.
Who the fuck thinks about that on June 10th? Yeah, that kind of stuff. I get what you're saying, but do you ever get it's rivalry week and you know, a bears fan wears something to a school in Wisconsin and everyone's like, Oh, you Devin, what are you doing, bud? Or church, the rear wears a bear's pin broach or something and everyone. I remember when forgive me, Lord, I had said I'm actually just a bears fan. I remember when screw you. When the bears played the Packers in the playoffs last time would that have been the NFC Championship game? Maybe it was like that that time they played when Randall Cobb caught the ball.
I was gonna say it was at the seven in one season. I remember the reader at St. Joseph's Catholic Church. She wore a bear's shirt. But it was a long sleeve shirt with jeans. And I just remember everyone in the congregation like he's kind of shitty dressed to be a reader had nothing to do with but she had a bear's shirt on and everyone the fuck is this? Don't shove this down my throat. Meanwhile, Chuck, who administers the body of Christ every week wears his clay Matthews jersey tucked into his khakis.
No one has a problem with that. But it was a great reader. She didn't have great volume from the book of Corinthians, brothers and sisters. Everyone was like, What does she wear? What is she doing?
Looks kind of shitty. You know, you don't ever see someone wearing a cubs thing and just be like, Oh, I guess no. Just like I had that experience Paul do that one more time.
What was it? You don't see someone? Oh, yeah. Um, I Bruce cubs wears on me a little bit this season because the cubs are so much better and my team kind of sucks ass. But I don't I don't feel the need to pick up my keyboard and go battle about it online.
You know what I mean? I just try to tune out that noise. Good for you. Which is why I'm surprised that Bart you're being so reasoned about this. If anyone's this going into this crap.
It's you. This is kind of anti I feel like fan bases. You know, as I wear a final like Doc spiders hat and a DC defenders shirt championship game Saturday night, by the way.
Do you agree with this? Because my wife asked me she was going to dress my kid. And she's looking at like new shirts to buy and like, everyone everyone's big into Nike right now. Like these little kids love Nike.
Interesting. She's like check him a packer shirt. She goes, you can't wear a packer shirt in the summer. Can you I go?
I don't think you can. Oh, really? Come on. Packer shirts in the summer.
Not, not, not good. I'm not saying I'd go out of my way to do it. But I also wouldn't be like, I cannot wear that for it is June. I would you and your image consciousness.
I am. I've never thought about anything less than I'm very image conscious. Just look at me.
That's why I'm surprised you've had a couple of takes already in the 11 and a half minutes. Look at world's shortest haircut. That intentional right there. That's a haircut.
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Paul, you're on mute. Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Yeah, what is it? What is this? It's just like, I don't know.
It's money that's good at certain businesses. Anyway, they did a drawing at Odyssey and they're like, you got, you got an entry. Oh, and I'm like, so do I work there or not?
I, I, my big, my big, like I am in that building every night. I met some salespeople at the draft. They had no idea that I existed. They had no idea. My show existed.
That's good. They had no idea that I did a national show in the building they're in. Oh boy.
One person was like stunned. You do the show at in the building at night. Yeah. I've got a key fam. I've been going to that building for 11 years.
So I guess I am part of the team. Surprised you don't commute to Chicago to do it in a real radio studio, like 670 the score. You ever want to see what a real radio studio looks like? Paul, you should go down there and check that out.
They'll tell you all about it. It is pretty nice. I've been in there one time.
Did a little hit and run with speeds. Yeah. Apparently some guy in Detroit thinks I'm an asshole. Probably more than one, actually. One of the hosts, Pat Caputo, who always mentions his name on you. I forget someone's mentions that name.
Greg Greg. Cause the guy refers to me as winkle dink. What does he not like about winkle dink about you? I mean, he looks like Fred Willard.
Yeah. He's old. So, um, Detroit, the nights they take me, it's usually at 11. So the rest of the week, I'm just going to shout out Pat Caputo every night.
I'd be like, for those of you in Detroit, the legendary Pat Caputo, such an honor to grace the airwaves after him. Who told you he doesn't like, you know, this, is it a good source? Well, Greg and Michigan, Greg said, no, doesn't like you. Yeah. He told you that on the air.
Yeah. Albert Breer, but a moment ago, just tweeted the Steelers quarterback, Aaron Rogers on playing in 2025. I don't need it for my ego. I don't need it to keep playing. This was a decision that was best for my soul. Unquote mentions again, the opportunity to play for Mike Tomlin. Anyways, Paul. All right.
That is literally a pleasure to be here with my inner circle. Just say, yeah, I just want to play football. But I have a segment idea for you for at some time during the football season. I think Carlos with a K should collect only Aaron Rogers cuts and guess what they said to be exclusively Rogers. Because the reason I thought of that is there's no one, there's no other professional athlete in history who would answer the question in the way Rogers just answered it.
No one, that other player, any sport does not exist. Yeah. I don't need it for my ego. I don't need it for, what do you say, grant the money?
I needed it for my soul. He's getting 13 M's. He's getting 13. The M's thing was really dumb. But really like that would be the hard is that would be a really very difficult. Guess what they said type of guy. Like what would Rogers say? You almost have to.
I don't know. You got to be on ayahuasca to properly guess what he said. 17 minutes in, we just keep talking about Rogers.
It's a fascinating, so obsessed. He's not our problem anymore. I do think the game I'm more intrigued to watch him play against the Jets than the Packers. You might say that now, but that's must watch TV, right? Okay, so Packers Yeah, duh. But more so than Packers are always must must must watch TV.
The Jets, I feel like they might boo him ruthlessly. And then Aaron Glenn is gonna be like, I'm a fucking head coach now. Things are different here. That's gonna be like, you know, that's how his sideline thing that's how it's gonna be. I love I love I love when guys are like, this is this is there's been a million people that have done this job before me, but I'm doing I'm gonna do it different. Better. I'm there. No one's no one's got the opportunity like me to be a head coach. We're gonna you know, we're not going to do we're not going to leak stuff. We're gonna we're gonna keep things in house. And we're gonna win football games the right way. Well, I have seen that messaging from Jets reporters like sauce. Gardner and Garrett Wilson are here despite wanting new contracts, already sensing a change in culture around the building, you know, hashtag take flight or whatever, you know, that type of thing. So here's my here's my Packers question I want to ask you guys after the Jair Alexander release. Of course, there was the report that this brings the pack packer fans need not what the fuck packer fans do packer fans they need to get it through their skulls. That it wasn't the defense's problem. Why was that close to necessary what you felt like AJ Brown put up 200 yards on you what the fuck is this? We just bullshitted for 90 we should you know what honestly we should cut the net we should restart this podcast. I saw I saw your thing. I know you did that would have you could have brought that up anywhere in the last 18 minutes and you chose to wait until Paul asked the question the first one the first one which we should have done eight minutes ago. Keep in mind partner me people only stick around for what was it 26 minutes and then after that, that's an average that means a lot of people finish the show.
Many people dip out once they see us. There's a lot of like 14 second viewers and then there's also the full completion viewers. After the Jair release, there was the report of the Packers now have $46 million in cap space. The update to that as I'm sure you guys saw is when good against this morning suggested like there's gonna be some transactions today.
One of those transactions is that they are actually going to put all of the cap of Jair's dead hit on this year's cap as opposed to spreading it out. I've not seen what the new Packers salary cap for 2025 number is now that they've decided to do that I'm guessing if it was 46 million and the cap hit total is gonna be 17 maybe that 46 million becomes 35 ish if they're not going to spread across two years, but either way that initially brought the question of like Jalen Ramsey, Trey Hendrickson, TJ Watt, but more likely would be that they're gonna use it on extensions. Elton Jenkins, Zach Tom, Quay Walker, Devante Wyatt, Christian Watts, and Romeo Dobbs. Those are the six names I'm gonna offer you.
I'm gonna tell you this is an unscientific conversational way that we do this. I'm gonna say you can only sign re-sign three of those two extensions only three. Packers only have money for three of course this is just a hypothetical fun way to go about it. You only get to sign three of Jenkins, Quay Walker, Devante Wyatt, Christian Watts, Zach Tom, and Romeo Dobbs. Elton, Quay Wyatt, Watts, and Tom Dobbs. The three that you would give that cap space to assuming that they don't go and trade for a Trey Hendrickson.
Why do you don't even put that they're not going to. People are talking about. What people?
The people. Grant Bills apparently raises and he's been talking about it. You would of course give that money to Elton Jenkins, Zach Tom, and Romeo Dobbs. Mm-hmm. Or mm-hmm. That's the three?
Mm-hmm. Quay? So, so that means I didn't put Quay. I didn't put Wyatt. In your mind was Quay the first one out? He was the... No, Watson was the first one out for me.
And actually Devante Wyatt might have been the first one out for me closely. I think Wyatt's kind of nice. I think he's kind of good. I think he's good.
I'm about the trenches. I might give it to all the linemen. I mean, Tom is such an easy one. This should be done in short order. Yeah.
That's an easy one. And it will get done. And presumably Elton Jenkins will get done, but it is tricky because I get his scenario where I want to be paid like a guard. You can move me to center. Hey, you can move me to center, but you're gonna have to pay me like a guard because I've been playing guard. Our extensions as of late are not really working out too well with Bakhtiari and Jair.
Rashawn Gary's been a superstar. What do you mean? Oh, here. So, okay. Let me answer the question though.
Yeah. The wide receiver. You guys love Dobbs.
I mean, he's more of a... I love him. All said, I need to sign three of them. I then would sign Dobbs. All right, well, I'm for sure signing Tom and Jenkins. I think that's an obvious, yeah. Same with you, Grant. Yeah.
You're the first two. Jenkins isn't going to be a huge deal. Like that's going to be like a two year extension with a lot of money up front. Like I, that's not a massive deal. Like I don't think he's going to take place. Yeah. Tom will be big, but he's, that's the player that you should give that big deal.
Of course you should. Watson. I don't even feel like he's on the team.
I mean, he's, he's not right. I mean, he probably doesn't play this year and if he does, it's going to be in December. Oh, he's going to be out that long. Oh, I mean, he tore, he tore it in January or didn't he?
Or late December? I don't know. I just, these receivers, they have like one week where they're good and then one week where they're not. I think Dobbs is actually the most consistent of the group.
Isn't it? Oh, I got to tell you about a fantasy dynasty offer I got. I might do it. Is it one of these Romeo Dobbs? No, it includes Mahomes and Saquon. Oh, okay. Sure. Yeah.
Wait, is it one of our leagues? Whoa. I got to juice up the offer a little bit, but I might get Love back. Oh. So you're going to do this now or you're going to?
When would you like to go? Either tell us all of the details about it or shut up and do it afterwards. Okay. Graham, this cast of radio hosts just did a tease in the middle of a different topic that he wasn't, perhaps not even going to pay off.
Love Olave, Tyrone Tracy in a second. This is your second? No. Oh, Jesus.
How do you guys have the, how do you have the horizon in your life to deal with this? I'm not in, I like, I'm actively want Barkley off my team. He was overworked last year. He's riding high.
Yeah, I would cover. Yeah. But Olave is going to be out until a long time from now.
Well, I don't know. Holmes is like QB what? QB 15 in fantasy. Well, that's the number he wears. No, but really he's, he wasn't even your, okay. And I got JJ McCarthy coming up who I've made untradeable.
All right. So my kid, my brother bought, my kid wants a Devante Adams Jersey got traded. Then he's like, all right, I need to get you a guy.
Who's going to be here for a long time Jair. So my kids all for two on jerseys. So if you were to buy a packer, juicy right now of a guy not in love, God, who would it be Zach? Tom?
Who would it be? I just liked the idea that you would wear a number 50 with the name Tom on it. Oh, there is a Winkler again on the Marlins. Hmm.
See the one that got hit in the head by his own catcher. No, I don't think so. Okay. Oh, did you see that?
A's catch last night? Yes. Oh man.
That was cool. All right. So did we answer the question?
You completely diverted the question. So who's your third Jenkins and Tom? Who's your third? Dobbs Watson. I don't know.
I might come back around on Quay. Wow. I don't just want to draft these. Like I know some cost fallacy, but we're going to draft these guys in the first round.
I'd like them to like stay. We got all these projects and then they never develop. That's the thing. Like that's why Zach Thomas, that's the rookie who easy and we don't have a lot of those. Is Jordan Morgan a part of this team?
Not. That was a terrible pick. That was just a bad pick. They've been repping him at right guard.
Also a little bit at left tackle. I don't think they want to pay Rashid Walker. So if Rashid Walker moves on and Jordan Morgan can step in there and play, then it's a, that it's a fine pick.
Yeah. But, but Grant, this goes to your point with like Van Ness and Rashan Gary. That means if that's true with Rashid Walker, that Jordan Morgan isn't starting until his third year.
Lucas van Ness started last year and I wish he hadn't. So what, like, what is it like that? If they're not becoming a starter until year three or an impact player until years, or even a serviceable player until year three, like, I don't know, the Packers have had the success by drafting a quarterback and having him sit three years.
Why do they think they need to do that with every first round pick they ever had? It is. Yeah.
Grand. This is always a guy on the board. Everyone wants a certain guy on the board. Then we get this other guy and then we're all like, Oh, well, I guess I see the vision there. Good.
It's good. And then the guy never plays. This is the grand bills talking point.
This is grand flame. And then, and then, and then we get, we're, we're hit over the head with, well, you guys know the draft is not for the here and now. Yeah. Right.
It's not for the here. Now it's for the future, but what is the future? It's like saying our kids are the future, but the, I was once that kid and now it should be my time to be the future and I don't get shit. And I don't have kids.
So I, you know, it's the same with the Packers draft. Your time is up. My time is now. You can't see me.
Look, Tom's down. You enjoy it. You enjoying the show? Oh, part of the show, man. You know what? I have a WWE topic. We'll save it for later.
There's, there's a, it's a professional tease. Um, so you're going Quay as your third one, Bart, over Wyatt, Watson, Dobbs? Well, I'm not going to receivers. Okay. These receivers. I feel no connection to them.
Neither do their quarterbacks. I was going to say that to you. I just, you know, it's like, here it comes. Oh boy. Remember when scrubs came back and it's coming back again? It is, I guess with breath and phase on. Uh, I don't know, but yeah, I don't, I think brass like, yeah, we're going to do it again.
And no one picked it up. Oh, okay. But yes, I do remember when scrubs came back with their like intern class or whatever it was called. Yeah.
It's like a med school. That's what this feels like to me. These are just, it feels like when scrubs came back with, yeah, I need, I need my Jordys and my Jennings and my Joneses back. Yeah.
You're old. I know. I need my Terry Mickens and my Kittrick Taylor and my Sterling sharp and my Robert Brooks. I can't get down with these Gen Z pass catchers. I do think we talked about this randomly cause you weren't going to be the number one receiver in the game plan that week. So I'm with you on that. Yeah, that's pretty bad.
That was BS. And then my listeners are always, you know, when I mentioned this, my listeners are always like, well, you don't know what was going on. And I'm like, well, even if I don't, and I'm pretty sure that I do, I'm pretty sure he was just pissed about the game plan.
Yeah, for sure. But even if 17 weeks you're going to sit out a game, even if he had something take place in his life, just literally call them to be like, Hey. And then they're like, you don't know that phone calls so difficult to make when you're in that mental space. I'm like, yeah, but you know what? You got to make it like you got to grow up a bit. Why am I the one who has to say this?
Yeah. And then what if you just didn't want to come to work for a week? He would be like, Grant, you got to, you got to tell him where you're going. You can't no show, no call. You can call him. No call. Can't no show, no call.
Yeah. People used to no show, no call when I was a ref coordinator. But then I did a good thing. I did a, I put one person on call every night so they had to come out to the field smart and they usually got a game.
And if they didn't, I just gave him 10 bucks. I talked to you. I had friends in lacrosse who reffed under your tutelage in Fond du Lac. I think we've talked about this. Yeah, I was, that was a, I won volunteer of the year that year. Wow. I didn't know that part of the story. Anywho, the younger pass catchers, I think the problem with this group is we like them all.
We don't love any of them. And to your point, Paul, we want to be able to be like, pay that guy as soon as possible. He's haven't had that guy in a while. Other than maybe Tucker craft. I think after this year, people will probably feel that way about Tucker craft. That's that's that's one, I suppose.
And I want golden to be good because I want that moment to like matter. Is he still that he'd lock in at number 22? Wasn't there some who cares? I see adult men on the internet melting down over this. I don't I don't care. How does anyone care about this? What was the deal with everybody's like, what's the do you everyone's like all I said I was, you know, I'm not as in it as I was so I don't know the drama between beat writers and fans. But it seemed like everyone's like, you all match snowman and apology also something I don't care about.
For Jair, what the fuck? What's going on? Well, the reporters were so cocky all see, I don't care. I don't know. I don't care.
I don't know. I don't care. That was one of like, Damoski blocked me undeserved. Schneider block Schneider's block was deserved.
I told him he writes his articles in crayon. I thought that was a good one. Anybody else? You're blocked behind the Packers beat?
I don't think so. Herman block yet. No, no. Herman's bro.
Pro wink. Are you gonna give me a third name? Oh, Zach. Tom. That's one of the first I want to give him I want to give him another extension.
For eight years. What was? Okay. Quick. Give me that that fantasy trade.
I want to plug it into a calculator. It works evenly a lava Mahomes Barkley love and a second and Tyrone Tracy, which I might as well just ask for a bag of baseballs. Olave love is a 2026 second Tyrone Tracy for Mahomes and Barkley. Oh, you win that trade.
No. You're getting Olave love a second and Tracy. Yeah, but I want a better picker.
I want someone besides Tracy. You you. Okay. Got more power to you, but you already win that trade. Based on one website based on to Paul, it's about do I win in here?
It's in your pocket protector Paul added again. Let's I don't know how you guys can do dynasty fantasy leagues. I don't know how you attention span for that.
It's great for obsessive compulsive I should have joined this new one. It's too many because I'm in a different one. I'm in three dynasty leagues. I doubt I'll play fantasy. That's three too few if you ask me, Bart.
Okay, um, quote. Right now there is no Yanis out of the kumpo trade market. There is no Yanis out of the kumpo trade discussions. He has not asked for it.
The Bucks are not looking to trade him and quote, attributed Brian Windhorst. This is really a revelation. You're shocked or Bart. I don't know why people don't listen to me about. And I like talk to NBA writers and I tell them I can't tell you how many guys I can. The amount of people that have like, I'll interview or whatever. And then like off, you know, Bart, I know you're really thinking Yanis is going to stay but these Miami like this real there's there's real. It's real.
I want names. Just random people writer. No, even like other people. Let's just like, no, it's not.
And they know about swimming. I know it's become kind of a joke. It is a joke, but it's also actually honestly, informative. And I think you should honestly keep saying it both because it's a good bit and because it is actually not nothing. I'm just like Grant said before. This needs to be it now. Yeah, I said this at the I said this at the start, like two days after the eliminated I said are you guys fire away but if you're if you come up empty, you're banned permanently like you can never do this again.
And now I and other people. Why doesn't Jokic get this kind of people like Oh, Jokic that's his team you got to build around him in Milwaukee. It's like, Oh, no, and next the next they're like, Oh, we got the assets. What the fuck? Well, this is what we talked about like with that tsunami type offer, you know, it's like there is the Knicks don't have what it would take to acquire Yanis there is no tsunami type offer.
Yeah, it's unbelievable. How people look at this Luca trade and say, whoa, most lopsided Dale in history, and then they propose Yanis trades that are worse than that. Oh, you don't want Evan Mobley straight up? No, I don't know if I like that for the cabs. I mean, I didn't know we were doing this today.
I'd have to think about it. But I love your rassela it's um, Mike Clemons just sent me a Daniel Whelan press conference. What is that man doing up in Green Bay? Not the punter Mike Clemons, the general manager and the coach have both spoken today and I get that audio off the website, but I just Daniel Whelan just hit my inbox God Mike Clemons is unbelievable. I did he make cuts? No, not yet can expect those promptly.
Is there something in there that could make it for a national audience? A punter did sign today for 16 million I don't remember who it was or what team it was but I saw what a punter today got a $16 million deal. Who was that? Would you trade a second round pick for that punter Paul? I would for that was one of our biggest missteps ever. It felt good at the time.
Didn't it? Yeah, I didn't want to. I said no.
Justin Tucker. I said mm hmm. Oh, JK Dobbins to the Broncos. Really?
15 million? No, I'm sorry. That's separate. That's not the punter. But Terry mcclaurin's not at camp. Oh, I heard that is what's his nuts? Who's the JK Scott?
Ah, wow. Logan cook. It's the off season for everyone. It's training camp for everyone. Let's see, we could fire up the Packers get Terry mcclaurin conversation again and get Toby all riled up yet Toby your little potato wedge.
So does Ty Schmitt do a podcast with Schefter? What is this? What are we doing? What are we currently doing right at this moment right now? I don't know. We're not doing a show. I mean, yes, Ty Schmidt does do a thing on the side.
It would seem with Schefter every week. Yes. Why? I don't know.
I don't know. Why is that? Why? Why? Why? Why? I couldn't find that Schefter cut the other day where he was crying to Shamra.
I think they might have scrubbed it. Ooh. Yeah, Michael Dixon punter for the Seahawks 16.2 mil, or how many 16.2 m's for four years for Seahawks punter Michael Dixon. Remember when Ron Wolf won't give heintrich a million dollars? I do. So I have a topic actually on that. Does anybody want to say anything about Giannis?
It was kind of just more of like a throwaway. But I'll get a segment out of it tonight where it always comes across like I'm a little petulant bitch. I'm very self-conscious of it, but also I got to stand up for not just Giannis but myself and my city. I put on for my city. All right, I have two topics here. Even though I don't technically live in Milwaukee.
No, you don't. Even though my address, I just hired a bug guy. Who's your bug guy? The address, some places they won't accept Shorewood.
They say, no, you are in Milwaukee. What's your bug guy say? Grant. Hey, Grant, who's your bug guy? Me. I'm putting down that bug powder because we have silverfish in our bathroom.
So pet peeve, this isn't I don't even know if this will turn into maybe it will. Do you have any? Okay. Do you have any?
I'll ask you that. Do you have any name, pronunciation? His hands are disgusted.
What's up, Paul? Do you have any like name, pronunciation, pet peeves? Like Bart used to say like jaguars or falcons or whatever you roll those crazy shit say. But do you have any like names that announcers say that bother you?
Giannis. Oh yeah, it's a good one. That's a bad, good slash bad one. So every like third time, Mike Breen, who's awesome, says homegroom for Chet.
And it and nope, sorry. You can't be a national TV, you cannot be a broadcaster if you cannot say home grin. And then I realized the second one that really drives me nuts.
And it put this context for me. What was the name of the Packers GM who traded for Brett Favre? Ron Wolf.
Bart, who was it? No. No, no, no, no.
No, you were right. Oh, well, then why? Yeah, I was like, I was trying to get you both to say you don't say it, thankfully, Bart. Because half of broadcasters, I remember being say, I don't know how to say roof roof. I'm okay with rough roof. I'm okay with you.
I don't think I'm saying rough the other day, but I literally remember being on a roof with Bill Michaels in 2012 2013. And I remember saying to him, I was feeling I must have been feeling snarky. But I was like, I really hope Elliot wolf is not the eventual successor. Because I don't want to hear half of the Packers fan base like, hey, what's what's what's Wolf's next move going to be like hit the fucking L. Do you know that? Honestly, these are things that drive me nuts.
It's no, I don't doubt that these things drive you nuts. Mike Holmgren. Chet Holmgren.
If you can't get off the air. And also, it's wolf Holmgren. There's an L wolf drives me nuts. I never liked and then I realized that we had both of these last names for the Packers at the same period of time that people can't this was the connection wolf and Holmgren this I didn't even purposely come up with it that way.
But they're both two names that people struggle with. What about when people say Joe Embiid is that you do sometimes don't you know, I hit the L on that one. couple of brewers ones. Josh Maurer is he always said Luis Urias and like you're the only one Oh, I have a complaint about that.
About Luis Urias. No, he also right before they optioned piomps before they DFA him, he started saying yo well piomps and I'm like I can't No, I will say yo well, that's fine. I'm not doing it with the first name and the last name.
I'm glad they got rid of them because that would have bothered me. So the other night, I was gonna text you guys, because he says American family insurance. Oh, yeah. And I just say family. Of course, because no one says it the way you just said it the other way, family, family.
That's different family. That's the same as people who aren't from the Chippewa Valley say Chippewa Falls. It's like no one says it like that, except for the animals that live in two rivers and call it two rivers.
That's stupid. Chippewa Falls is just normal speak. One kid one kid once when I was reffing, he goes, I go and what team are you from? He goes, tr. And I'm like, what is tr he goes, you don't know that's two rivers.
I would have punched him in the eye, tr. I had, we have a friend Catherine. And my son was like, doing all his friends names and doing how many syllables it was. And so I was like, Catherine or Catherine. It should be three syllables. So I asked her, I said, how do you say your name? Because we couldn't figure it out.
She goes, I guess I say Catherine. And even if she says it that way, it doesn't mean it's the right way. But I've been saving that story for you guys. I like that story. But also, I'm fine with that.
I am not okay with you actually saying that the home grin is actually an M on the end. That is family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family, folks, folks with my family. I love inner circle. I I'm coming around on Josh Maurer. I found that within Brewers fandom, as soon as you say an announcer sucks, then everyone starts to think an announcer sucks.
So then they listen with an ear expecting to hear sucks. So I've tried to completely clear my mind while listening to Josh Maurer. I don't mind him. And I listen to the game most every night because I get home from work, and then I make dinner and then we eat dinner. And then she normally has some work stuff to do.
So I go for a walk normally about 25 minutes. So I walk down the beautiful ice age trail, and I have my earbuds in I feel like Mike Ehrmantraut and better call Saul when he's like, in the evening light and he's just listening to the ballgame. I don't mind Josh Maurer, but some of the name stuff does. Who's that for?
Who is that for? You're the only one who says it like that. Even if it's right. Don't say it like that. Right?
When so a couple of things. Listen for Holmgram and then be angry about it. And then listen for when people don't know how to say wolf. Or also, also, people don't know how to say calm.
Why do people know how to put L's before the foot? It's calm. You should be more calm. You should be more calm. Fuck you.
Put the L. Well, the English language is difficult. It's not, though. It actually pretty much.
I'm actually like my blood pressure is raised like this is not an act. Calm down. They're there. All right. Last one.
Grant, this one specifically for you. The WWE is fucking shit right now. If you guys say that it is, then because I'm gonna give you some examples, Bart.
Sure. So Jay Uso's West Romanian moment was just nonsense. There's nothing that had no meaning other than just like instant gratification for people because whatever. I don't mind that he lost to Gunther. But like that just tells you that you didn't have a plan, right? It's just dumb. Then the- Well, and Gunther tapped out. That was stupid.
They didn't protect him at all. Yeah. Triple H being unable to admit about our truth. Like you're just a piece of shit. Could I just play that for you? Grant. Go. You wanna play for Grant? No. I wanna dissect this.
Go for it. I was gonna do this on Twitter the other night, and then I thought, I don't care that much, but- It's not that hard, Grant. Like generally, the premise of this is that when an executive can't just be like, oh, that was my bad, or I listened to my audience, I listened to my consumer base, but you have to be like, no, no, no.
I'm trust. You just gotta trust the story. So what happened was they fired a wrestler, and then all the fans got mad, and the wrestlers got mad. And then they begged him to come back, and he won't answer their calls. So then the guy above Triple H finally called them, and then he came back now. And Triple H, in this answer, you could tell it's all an act. You could tell he's prepared for it. You could tell he's like, he kept it short and naive, or brief.
I've watched this probably a hundred times, so fucking mad about it. Was he actually released or leaving the company? And if so, how much did fans play a role in it? Or was there something else that made you guys decide like, you know what, we want this guy still here? I love the question. Enjoying the show? Whole part of the show, man. Oh, I just, I fucking, I just, I hate it. I can't believe he said that. The arrogance is unbelievable, Grant.
I can feel it through the screen. That reminds me of something- You enjoying the show? All part of the show, man. And then he turns his head like, the whole thing is just bullshit. People are trying to tell you what you see with your eyes are wrong. This feels like another talking point. It is.
There's something more built in there. And then obviously, I was going to text you this morning, Bart, too, but I knew we were chatting here. It really bums me out as someone who CM Punk was so influential for. I then got to interview CM Punk.
It was one of my favorite all-time interviews of my career. I can't with hypocrites. I just can't. I don't care what you do.
I don't care. But you can't be super, super, super, super strongly opinionated about stuff and then go and do the thing. I can justify it by like- Because he's going to Knight of Champions? Yeah.
I mean, you know all his previous comments about, right? I mean, it's just really, there's a lot of really storytelling stuff, gross stuff that just, I just, it really kind of makes me, but thank goodness it's not my wrestling promotion. Well, I think the product right now is suffering. I think it's too corporate. The TKO involvement's terrible.
They still never explained anything regarding The Rock. Cena's heel run is a waste of time. Terrible.
It being on Netflix is stupid. It's just, it's, yeah, it's suffering. But some of it's not even like, it's the other stuff too, right? It's the Triple H comments, it's the fact that everything is now, Grant, this may not bother you. But like, because they eventually put patches on sports jerseys and things of the sort and obviously like in European soccer, it's very prominent. But now like everything is branded for WWE. The ring had no sponsors, now it's got like six of them.
Yeah, everything is getting worse, but also more expensive. They branded the tables that they put, like the prop tables, Grant. Yes, this is happening in the NBA Finals as well. The floor looks like shit. I love saying that with my friends.
We I don't know. That's just dumb. We just say as well, this is happening in the NBA, too, where it's like, so everything looks worse. Games have never cost more to attend.
They've never cost more to watch. Maybe this is a larger discussion as well. Maybe I'm maybe I'm projecting.
Yeah, I think it's all right. I'm sorry, you guys aren't loving wrestling at this moment in time, though. This bumps me up. Then I turn on AEW and I'm like, all right, take me back. And then Jon Moxley is the fucking stupidest champion of the last 30 years in any promotion. But again, you've got 33 more days for that to be true, 32 more days for that to be true. That's a waste.
It's wasting time every week that it's you're missing out on people. But it is AEW is my show. It's my whatever. It's not, it's not always elite pun, but right now it's really, really good. It's really, really good. Yeah.
All right. Didn't know if you wanted to vent anything further about WWE, but we can end it. El Grande Americano is fucking stupid.
That sounds like a coffee order. It's Chad Gable pretending to be a luchador. And also did you see the ladder spot with him and Penta? No, I kind of like fell asleep during the show. I was at a long day of being an innie.
I'm glad that WWE fans are experiencing why Penta looks really cool and why you just can't. He's just, he's awful. I was one of those like good riddance type guys. Fine. Go, please. Off my show. Go, go enjoy.
And botch waiting to happen. Well, uh, we'll end on a high note. Oh, that was a great ending. Oh, Hey, have you guys watched the show tires? Not yet. No, but you're like the fourth person to my sister brought this up this morning. And then Justin Garcia texted me pissed because bill Simmons was saying on Sunday's podcast that everyone was telling him to watch tires. And Justin's like, that's horseshit. It had been out for less than a day when he says it's just, everyone's bringing it up.
Everyone's bringing up tires. I finally, I finally watched a few, but it seems really, really promising. Yeah. Well, the first season came out last year. Yeah. Then the second season came out.
It's hard though with like everything being streaming. Like I was so naive that when I was looking at something, I was, I figured I did. I was like, what? I, you know, Bart, the funny thing is for people of our generation, I wanted to Google what channel is, is tires on, but I don't think that would be the correct search. What channel is tires on? Like, no, like what service, what's it on? What is tires on? How would you ask that? What would be the appropriate way to ask where to watch tires?
Where to watch? Oh guys, this is perfect. Perfect ending. Yes. Roger says he's married. Okay.
To whom? Hold on. Probably my guess is like, it's no big deal.
He's been married for a couple of months. Is that what he said? Something like that? Shut up. Is that what he said? You didn't see it and you know that? No. What'd he say?
A couple of months. Yeah. There you go. Is there anything else? That wedding ring?
Yeah, it's a wedding ring. Congratulations. Thank you.
How long? It's been a couple months. God damn it. I knew it. It's no big deal.
Oh, this old, this fucking old thing, Paul, you were right. I've been married. Well, it's not a big deal. I almost forgot.
It's part of my life now. I don't see, I'm not bothered by Aaron Rogers for important things. It's just the stupid little things.
I feel like this is a good stance to take because vaccine people are anti-vaccine. You can't yell at me. I don't care about that stuff. It's just stuff like that. Yeah. People don't understand that if I'm mad about Rogers saying I've been immunized, it has nothing to do with the vaccine.
It's about the language. Man, it's just, it's just you being a turd, man. I still would like to see- A couple of months. What do you say, a couple of months? Few months.
Oh, this old thing. I thought he had things, I thought he had things in his inner circle. Was it just him getting married? People do that shit on a weekend and then have to go to work on Monday after cleaning up the venue. They have to go back on Sunday and clean it up.
Now we hit the dismount. Now he did it. Are you going to pretend tonight if you do get that question this week, like, I don't know what he said.
Let me see if I can come up with an answer. It's been a couple months. Oh, I'm going to shit all over him tonight. Nice.
He got married. What's wrong with that? But again, as you know, Grant, that's not the point. I know.
Guys. This was a pleasure. Thanks for stopping into the Winkler-verse. Way to go.
