Good morning, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse.
I am Bart Winkler. This is an episode where I'm going to take a big picture look at a couple of things, including the Brewers and including a question that was posed to me from my colleagues, Maggie Gray and Andrew Perloff at Infinity Sports Network about who would be on the Mount Olympus, not Mount Rushmore, Mount Olympus, who are the sports gods in the state of Wisconsin. And my conversation with them coming up. But also, I wanted to talk a little bit about the Brewers.
Should have it still this week. That will be dependent on if my kid can silently watch YouTube while I try to record with Paul and Grant because he's off from school on Friday as the school year winds down. And then it's and then it's summer camp season at the school. That's good. But then there's a lot of field trips like in West Bend and shit. And I'm like, ah, it's kind of far.
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Check them out and see how you can lower your rates. But I wanted to just as the Brewers have an off day this Thursday, June 5th. But really, you know, this isn't dependent on the day itself. I will bring up what they've been up to. They've won nine to 10. They had an eight game winning streak.
Got people talking about George Webb. That was great to go in and sweep the Phillies. I thought was really nice. Beating them six to beating them 17 to seven. I think they're like a 12 nothing start to that game to then beat them again on Sunday, which you bet against home sweeps.
That's one of the rules. But the Brewers were able to get that Sunday win and then keep it going against the Reds losing that game. Bowers so close with the home run and then coming back on Wednesday. They're playing good baseball at this point. They're competitive when it comes to the wild card. I'm looking more at the NL Central right now where St. Louis had a nice streak. And so they're up there the Cubs. Yeah, I think the Cubs are good. You know, I think the Cubs are good.
And that's a shame. But they're currently in front of the NL Central St. Louis four and a half back Brewers five back at this point. I haven't really dove into the wild card yet.
I guess I could just because I'm talking about it. Okay, so they're the half game back. But either way, they're in contention. Okay, the Brewers are contending for a playoff. Spot. Yeah, it's June 5.
But you know, this matters. I think this little stretch that they had here a lot of good stuff. Christian Yelich has been very good. I like this DL Hall Quinn Priest or combo or DL Hall comes in for a few innings and then Priest or finishes the game. That's a very Brewers thing that's happening. That's like shouldn't work.
But also it does work and why didn't anyone think of this sooner? I mean, he's not just an opener. He's pitching multiple innings. And then Priest is finishing the game. It's kind of weird now it's worked a couple of times they've done it.
The you know, the first time one of those guys blows up that's probably out the window. But you like it because there is some pitching depth or at least there's some capable guys and they're supposed to be getting Brandon Woodruff back and then he got popped in the elbow. So we'll see what happens there on a comeback or I don't know that we ever get the Brandon Woodruff we remember again, but it would just be nice to see him back in the clubhouse with this team.
He signed a two-year deal to rehab and then get back to the spot and he's yet to come back to this spot. So we would like to see that. But big picture thing here is I've been somebody who has given up on the Brewers ever winning a World Series. I said, I don't feel like I'm going to see that in my lifetime.
I won't be blessed to see it. And if they do win sooner rather than later, I'll probably somehow be dead. So that's what I mean by that. Will the Brewers ever win a World Series should Major League Baseball exist for another 300 years? I mean, you better hope you better hope so. But I have given up that dream. I think the closest that we got to that dream was 2018.
Obviously, if you were able to watch it in 1982. They blew a 3-2 lead as I like to say. But 2018 felt like a year they could at least get there. And then they did not.
I'm trying to find ways to enjoy. And I'm not trying to reverse jinx. I saw the Bucks win. I saw the Packers win. Just the same way that I don't think the Wisconsin Badgers are ever going to win a title.
It's kind of that. It doesn't mean I don't get into the Badgers. It's just I don't expect them to win a championship. And I'll still obviously root for them.
I hope I'm being clear about that. I'll still obviously root for them to win a championship. But I don't expect them to.
So I've been a championship or bus guy. So if that's the case, why don't I just retreat fully? Why don't I just fully back up and say, well, if you're not going to win, you're not worth my time.
And I'm not going to do that. Because I've always said, just because I don't think I'm going to see them win a championship doesn't mean they're not trying. And they don't have the biggest payroll. And sometimes they have to trade guys that are good to get like, guys that might be good later. And sometimes they have to do the bites of the apple thing, which seems to work for every team but the Brewers. But they are trying. They are trying to put out a winning team.
And they are trying to put out a winning product. As long as they do that, they will have my full support. I mean, I will continue to go to the games.
I will continue to champion them as a franchise. Would I like to see them spend money different ways sometimes? Do I still think that organizationally, you know, you do a hot dog promotion and then charge people on the free hot dogs for tax? Do I think they charge too much for parking?
Do I think there should be some? There's a lot of things like I would change if I took over the Brewers franchise. But when it comes to the on field product, I do believe that they are at least trying to win with the means that they have. There are other teams that have similar means or not and are trying way less. The Pirates are a team I think you can say are in a similar situation than the Brewers.
They've spent like $200 million less in the last seven years on payroll. The Brewers could be that. They could be that.
But they're not. They're a team that, you know, well what are they going to do? 81 games? And then they win 90 and win the division. And even this year it looks like they won't win the division. It looks like it's going to be the Cubs division.
How do you count them out? Count them out two weeks ago, they go on an eight game win streak, win nine to ten. But the big series coming up against the Padres this weekend, so it should be interesting. But what I want from the Brewers is them to keep the community engaged.
That I think is what I want. I want them to keep the community engaged. We are one of 30 cities, not even, 27? We're one of 27 cities with a baseball team, a major league baseball team. And other cities like I think it's great that the Northwoods League and you can rally around that. I think it's great that there's minor league baseball and teams can rally around that. But there's nothing like having a professional baseball team in your town where other professional baseball teams come to play in your town. And I've always said the playoffs are the best because when you're in the playoffs you can tangibly feel.
There is something different in the air. You can tangibly feel it. But also when the Brewers are like good or winning or even like a few games over 500 like they are, especially now that we've hit the summer time and you know other playoffs are winding down. It's going to be a while before football is here.
I think it matters that your team is competitive in June, July and August because it kind of changes just like the whole social output from people. Like when you go to a bar, the game should be on. You shouldn't have to ask anybody to put the game on. If the team sucks, you know, you just let the TVs roll and bartenders like, oh, I know ESPN and then College World Series all day. You're like, yeah, the Brewers are on. They're like, oh, we don't get that channel. You're a sports bar. We got ESPN too. Oh. When they're on a win streak, you know, I'm out and about the other day and somebody asked me, hey, do you think we're going to hit that George Webb 12 games in a row?
Like people are starting to talk about George Webb. With 12 games, you get free burgers. Someone comes over to the house. There's sound on. Oh, you got the game on? You watching the game? Yes, the game.
I'm watching the game. Every day should be the game. That doesn't happen when the team sucks.
It doesn't happen when the team doesn't try. Maybe this is a low bar that I'm asking for the club to reach. And in the past, I've told these guys I wouldn't mind a year where my team's bad because then you can go to a bunch of games and it's cheap.
I may have to retreat on that. I may have to retreat on that because while we have gone to one game this year and, you know, sorry, but I look at things now through DattoVision. But while we have gone to a game this year and it was fun and they won, beating the Twins, my kids got into it and it's nice when they win.
So here's something that's happened in the Winkler house. Bedtime used to be reading books, quiet time and then read books and go to bed. Now we just let him fall asleep to sports on the TV.
It's great. First, I was doing it on the weekends and then, you know, he just he wants to see what the games are going on. And baseball, you know, basketball like is a little more there's a lot more senses work in baseball.
You can you can kind of doze off, you know, the good Sunday naps, you can kind of doze off. But the other day when Bowers tried to hit that home run and Fredo caught it at the wall, I got a text from my wife as I was at work that he wanted to fire the Reds from baseball like he was distraught. He was so bummed about it. He doesn't like being at school the day they have day games because then he, you know, misses it.
Not that he sits there and watches it intently, but he likes to know what's going on, at least for bedtime. I bought him NFL helmets that has helped us learn the team names. I bought him NBA pennants that has helped us learn the team names.
So I said, I got to keep this going. And I got him MLB helmets. And MLB is harder. When you look at like NFL logos. Oh, that looks like the Eagles.
That looks like the Lions. When you look at NBA, it's like, oh, the ball's on fire. That's the heat. Or there's some stars by this basketball. That's the magic. You know, it's a little easier. Baseball, it's like the Guardians logo is a C. The Red Sox logo is a B. It's a lot of these. The Braves logo is an A.
So he's got to figure out the cities first. It's more in baseball than in the other sports. But he's gotten to learn pretty good the team names because we've taken the helmets now and they're across.
My TV sits on a stand. And so there's 30 helmets across. And every morning or after school, I tell him the complete overall MLB standings, not division, not league, complete standings. And then he gets a kick out of moving the helmets. And that has helped.
And he's very engaged. So once again, I think my I'm always looking for my purpose in life. I think my purpose in life has been that I have found the way to indoctrinate your children into liking sports.
They got to get familiar with the logos. And for that, you need props. And then you need to have them watch the game when you go to bed.
And then you need for one of the greatest NBA players ever to also have his kids registered. In swim class at the same time as yours. So very easy steps, very easy. Low key. Very easy steps. OK, buy helmets. Do bed. Sign up for swim class at the same time as one of the greatest basketball players to ever live.
OK, very easy steps there, indeed. So keep on winning. I mean, I'm engaged. It is hard. These these months are hard for me. These two weeks are really hard with because the Stanley Cup, I got to have it on. I got I got to have it on. And I can. So I I only have one screen when I'm broadcasting the show. I could have to, I guess.
But then I get lazy. But for the most part, I'm watching. It's harder for me to watch the games at night during the week.
But I'm trying to stay as engaged as I would be, as if I was hosting a morning show. You're going to get better Brewers coverage from Grant. You're going to get better Brewers coverage from Sparky. You're going to get better Brewers coverage from Chuck.
You're going to get better Brewers coverage from Dom and Adam and Todd. But I'm trying to stay as engaged as I can. And I like that. And Kurt and I like that it's, you know, something that people can get into, especially in the summer, even if you're just like at a beer garden and hey, what's the score? I just I feel like there's there's a lot to be said in that. I hope somebody understands what I'm trying to say here. I hope that.
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Happy Place, hemp dot com. So Maggie and Pearl off of the Infinity Sports Network morning show, they have a thing that they're doing this summer. And I should have thought of something like this, because, man, there are some of the there's a there's a night the other night I had nothing to say. I did like 20 minutes on nepotism and 20 minutes on Sam Darnold. If he's going to not start and equating it to Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson.
Pulling I'm pulling rabbits out of my ass some of these nights with there being nothing to talk about. Oh, man, I wish I could talk about the Brewers for four, four hours a night again. But one of the things that they're doing is they're taking different cities and saying, who are the sports gods here? Who are the sports gods in these cities? And so, of course, they did.
Wisconsin and they asked me for my input and they'll tell us in a second here what they came up with. But no Yanis on their board and no Euchre on their board, which if I'm thinking of. So here's the exercise. You need to think of the four people.
That. It's a Mount Rushmore thing, but gods, who are the sports gods? Who are the sports gods in Wisconsin? So we start with the Packers.
Here's my line of thinking. We start with the Packers. Vince Lombardi is on this list.
Larger than life figure. And I think if you want to put Bart Starr or Ray Nitschke or any of these guys from the 60s. They kind of fall under the Lombardi umbrella. Again, if we're trying to think of all of Wisconsin. So Vince Lombardi I put on right away.
Then I looked at a Brewer one. A lot of good candidates of guys that have had a big impact. Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Ryan Braun, Christian Yelich. It's Bob Euchre. Bob Euchre. We're talking gods here.
Bob Euchre has got to be on this list. Then Bucks. It's Giannis. And even if you're not like trying to get a buck on there, I think you have to get Giannis on.
I think you have to get Giannis. Even if he doesn't play for the Bucks ever again. For him being here, it's been a decade. He maybe kept the franchise here. He won us a title. And he took over like the mantle because, you know, we've had Ray Allen and we've had Michael Redd or we've had guys that we can get behind. But the greatest buck of all time would always revert back to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Who I don't think a lot of us have an attachment with because, you know, he didn't like the city or he wanted to be traded. It was before a lot of us were born or cognizant of the Bucks. So now when you talk about the Bucks, if there's one guy, it is Giannis.
It is Giannis. And I think he absolutely should be on this list. And so then I was looking for a fourth.
Well, where's the fourth going to come? You know, Al Maguire, you could say if you're a big Marquette person. Barry Alvarez, you could say if you're a Wisconsin person. You know, you think of some more Packers. Bart Starr, Brett Favre, Curly Lambeau, Aaron Rodgers. You think of some more Brewers. As I just mentioned, a few of those. You could, you know, I think we've kind of covered Bucks. So I wanted to go Lombardi, Euchre, Giannis. Hank Aaron you could think of, but a lot of, I mean, he was in Atlanta. I mean, the Braves, again, the Braves.
It might, some of this might change on age, but as a 41 year old man. This is the list that I came up with. So who's the fourth? Well, I didn't want it to be Brett Favre, and I didn't want it to be Aaron Rodgers, and I wanted it to be Bart Starr. But it's Brett Favre. If we're talking about gods, Brett Favre is, gods are infallible.
Is that the right word? But I mean, just think of what he was in those times, whether you were a kid like me or even a grown man. What you saw in Favre was everything that you wanted to be, until you realize that like, you know, he was maybe not always faithful and maybe not a great person and maybe flew close to the sun will say like a god would do. But Brett Favre to me still has to be on this list as a god type figure.
So I went with Euchre and Lombardi and Giannis and begrudgingly Favre. And this was my conversation with Maggie and Perloff on the Infinity Sports Network. Let's get to our pal and today and every day, an expert in all things Wisconsin and that is Bart Winkler.
You hear him right here on the Infinity Sports Network from 10pm to 2am Eastern Time. Bart, thanks so much for doing this. Boy, did we need you today. How you doing? Oh, I am happy to be here at this time of the day. You look thrilled. When people do night shows, then we ask them to wake up early in the morning.
It always goes over really smooth. Blame Carlos for that. He said you were available, your producer who we love. So we're doing the Mount Olympus of every great sports city in this country, the sports gods, the four sports gods, and we're tackling Wisconsin today. And Perloff and I actually matched on three of the same people.
It's the first time that's happened. We both had Vince Lombardi. We both had Hank Aaron. We both had Brett Favre. I went with Robin Yount and Perloff put Aaron Rodgers on his Mount Olympus. Who got closer to the truth of what real fans in Wisconsin would pick?
These are all very good options. The one I would say that you guys are totally missing is Giannis Edetokounmpo. Yeah, really needs to be on. I thought you were going to say Bart Starr. I thought you say Bob Euchre. Bob Euchre is also on the list.
It would be so my list would go when I thought about this. The first guy I thought of was Vince Lombardi. That was first. But maybe it could have been Bob Euchre. Bob Euchre is if we're talking godlike figures, we're still dealing with Bob Euchre's passing, listening on the radio in the summer.
It's not the same. The guys are doing great, but it's not the same. So Vince Lombardi's got to be on there.
Bob Euchre's on there. Then I went to Giannis because, I mean, he won a title and he essentially saved this franchise. I don't know that they'd be here if they didn't draft him at this point. And then for the fourth one, I thought of Hank Aaron, thought of Robin Yount, thought of even like Barry Alvarez, who took a Badgers team and brought them back to, well, not back to, they sucked for a long time. But if we're talking godlike, it's got to be Favre. It's got to be Favre. I'd love to put Bart Starr on there. I don't want to put Brett Favre on.
Let me get that. I don't want to put Favre on. I don't want to put Rodgers on. But the way that Favre, even with this documentary that came out, Favre, I don't think he's a good guy. But if Brett Favre was on my block and I saw him outside and I talked to him for five minutes, that would be the story of my life. I would never stop talking about meeting Brett Favre and how great he was to talk to and how much of a great guy he is. I don't care. I met him.
I talked to him. So I go Lombardi, Giannis, Euchre, and then Brett Favre would be the fourth. But Bart, obviously, key issue with Giannis. Does this offseason determine his status in Milwaukee a lot?
And what do you think is going to happen there? In terms of like fan reaction to him, I think we're at a point where we want what's best for both parties now. And that's Giannis and the Bucks. So the whole time Giannis has been a Buck, people have been trying to rip him out of Milwaukee.
And it's very annoying. And then the report comes out a couple of weeks ago, like for the first time ever, Giannis is open to thinking about for the first time ever. Well, what were you what was going on these last eight years then?
Why are we even talking about this these last eight years? He has put pen to paper to stay here three times since his rookie deal. He has not done anything other than tell you how loyal he is, how much he likes it here. He's got four kids now. I see him every week at swim class. OK, his kid, my kid. I don't talk to him.
I get shy, but they're like unbothered. And I think he's got a great setup here. But the Bucks are also very much in trouble if they ever want to be good again. I would like to see him stay. But there is the possibility for the first time that he may not. But I would not take my shirt off at swim lessons if I was next to Giannis, just comparison wise.
I mean, you look you're in great shape. But Giannis, though, you don't want to stand next to that guy. And he he gets in the pool now with his youngest kid. And so there's other dads just like, you know, already, I don't want to take my shirt off.
And then it's Giannis Adetokounmpo in the pool. Yeah, that's funny. It's funny because he's on your Mount Rushmore, but you go to swim class.
Don't talk to him. But if you said if you met Brett Favre for five minutes, that would be the story of your life. I think just really underscoring how much Brett Favre might even be in the lead on this Mount Olympus thing for the sports gods of Wisconsin, how he's in a different class all of his own. And to be honest, Bart, you know, from the outsider perspective, I had Favre on my Mount Rushmore. I know as distasteful as this latest stuff has been with the welfare scandal and some of the stuff in his personal life, we realize what he means to Wisconsin, to the Packers.
Why is he so much more popular than Aaron Rodgers? I think because he was first and because when Favre took over, he took over a team that was not good for decades. I mean, the Packers had their run in the 60s, of course. And then the set you get you get the phrases, the 70s and 80s.
You want to go back to the 70s and 80s, two decades of just futility. And when Favre came, it wasn't just the change of an era, but the way that he was, you know, he was a gunslinger. He was like larger than life.
And for a lot of us, like. With Rogers or Favre or whatever, Favre also took like a fake fatherhood, like, I don't know, I'd watch the games with my dad. I'd be like, I'm watching my dad. There's a weird like, this is my dad in some way.
I don't know how my dad would feel about that. That's how a lot of us people felt growing up. And it was just like bringing him back to a Super Bowl and everything along with it and the way that he played. And when he left, you know, it was a big like disaster and people were split. And then Rogers comes along and that's great. I don't know that he ever connected in the same way. I mean, he definitely connected, but Favre larger than life, kind of that offshocks attitude coming up here from Mississippi, getting embraced into the culture. He's hunting, he's fishing, he's doing all this stuff.
So it just it took on a larger than life thing. I don't want him on this list. I want Bart Starr. I want somebody else and I want to argue for them, but I can't deny that Favre would be on the mountain.
Actually, Bart, I have to admit, I'm a little jealous of the Robin Yount pick by Maggie. Is he a sports god there? Like, who is the brewer? Who's the go-to brewer?
Because I feel like there are a couple guys. Robin Yount and Paul Molitor and their run. I think if there's going to be one player, it's going to be Robin Yount. But you can't, you can't pass Euchre.
Yeah, I would have won this Paul if I played Euchre. Playing with the Braves and then announcing forever and the national stature that he had and the amount of times that Bob Euchre could have used Milwaukee as a springboard and left to go somewhere else and never did. And the thing with Bob Euchre is you ask any iteration about the Brewers, any team, even this last couple of teams that he's been a part of, he's not the announcer of the he's a teammate to them. They miss him when they're on the road and he wasn't joining them. He's in the clubhouse all the time. He has long talks with all these guys. He gets to know all these guys.
He is as much of a part of the Brewers as anybody. Opening day, they played a tribute, man. It was like everyone's trying not to cry, but they are crying. And then they just got to a point where they looked around and saw everyone crying like, screw it. And so like the whole stadium's crying. So it's just hard to pass Bob Euchre if you're going to look at a brewer.
Listen, Euchre didn't have to leave. Bart Winkler's joining us, by the way. Listen to him on Infinity Sports Network from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. Amazing job. We love him. We love his producer, Carlos. Amazing.
You don't have to leave when Mr. Belvedere, it will come to you. He can be on Carson. He was larger than life and didn't have to, you know, he could do all the things he wanted to do, Miller Lite commercials, all that stuff, and still be the voice of the Brewers. I have a last one for you, Bart, because I thought about putting this guy on. And I think it would have been not polarizing, that's not the word, but maybe just a little out of left field. I thought that Reggie White could have been a sports god in Green Bay.
And I know obviously he had a lot of years in Philly, but there are so, like, he picked Green Bay in free agency and won. That has to amount for a lot, right? Yeah, if we're going to extend this to like a mountain range, you know?
The Cascade Mountains of, yeah. Top 10. I think he's definitely on there. And maybe if he didn't pass away, you know, relatively young and he was able to remain a pillar of the community and be present, you know, I hate to say that, but he I mean, yeah, he was a big deal, too. But then again, he was called up by Mike Holmgren, who told Reggie on the phone that it was God to get Reggie here. So maybe Mike Holmgren could get on this list. He should be at the Hall of Fame, that's for sure.
Mount Olympus might be a hard bar to clear. There was an old time Green Bay Packer. Our good friend Peter King was obsessed with Don Hudson's stats. The wide receiver is Don Hudson had a special place there.
He was like the Randy Moss of the 1930s, basically. Don Hudson is the perfect guy to talk about Mount Olympus and to go through all these names and then to be like, oh, you know, we should probably think more of his Don Hudson because he was very good. And he just played so long ago that nobody ever thinks of him. But they, Perloff, that I'm glad you brought him up.
That's very nice of you. Yeah. Oh, I and also by Paul Hoarding was super famous, too, right? But yeah, but he didn't make any lists of any anything for Green Bay.
But as a kid, I didn't. But there's so many of those guys from the 60s, you know, and even back further that they all kind of get like tied up in Lombardy. Yeah.
The same way maybe a lot of these brewers get tied up in in Euchre. Does Lombardi have a presence? Like, is there a Lombardi signage in Milwaukee? I know we have a Vince Lombardi rest stop down the street in New Jersey is a big deal here.
I imagine he's huge there. Yeah, there's a Lombardi Avenue. You know, there's enough people that still dress up as him to games, which is fun.
Yeah. The best presence would be to win a Lombardi trophy again, which they have done in 16 years. But yeah, he's definitely still got a lot of a lot of kids around Wisconsin still getting the name Vince even after all these years. And we're talking to a Bart, which makes a lot of sense here. We're talking about sports gods in the state of Wisconsin.
Last one for you, Bart. We only got about a minute. Jordan Love right now saw Matt Lafleur kind of felt like he had to defend Jordan Love for some tough questions. I think that was yesterday in the press conference where to take the temperature for us on Packer fans on Jordan Love heading into the season.
I think the packet I said last night that the Packers are probably in the lead of teams that could win the Super Bowl that nobody is going to pick to win the Super Bowl. And I feel like Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur, they have a big year. Matt Lafleur has been here seven years now.
This is Jordan Love's third year as a starter. Last year, they got away with, OK, first year, there's no expectation. Second year, maybe let's do a little better. Had the years been switched and they got further in the second year than the first, we'd be maybe more excited coming in. But it's a big year. If they don't, I mean, at least division around. But I really think that they need to start going further in the playoffs if this is going to be a long term thing. I mean, if they could have banned the tush push, then maybe it would have all worked out.
Well, the tush push is stupid, so they should have done that. Thank you, Bart. Let me just reintroduce you as we as we say goodbye.
The smartest guy on the network. 10 p.m. 2 a.m. Bart Winkler, you and I are aligned on the tush push there. Thank you. Love listening to you. Say hi to Carlos for us and have a great show tonight. Thank you, guys. See you.
Thank you again, Maggie Gray, Andrew Perloff for having me on. Good to cross pollinate with some of the Infinity Sports Network shows, as always. I've got the Thunder and five.
Oh, God. I mean, the Thunder should win the series in five or less games, but we know what the Pacers are. Very intrigued to see how this finals goes. And then I've got the Oilers and six was my prediction.
How did I get there? I don't know. Just because they played last year and now it's the Oilers turn. Panthers have been in the Stanley Cup three years in a row.
That's kind of a big deal, right? It's a good game. I like I watch these games and then I got to talk about them.
I'm like, I don't know what the hell I just watched. I know it was a good game. But.
You know, some. If people don't call in to talk about the hockey game, I'm right back onto the NBA. That's how it's going on the Bart Winkler show weeknights on the Infinity Sports Network.
Check it out. Thank you for being here as well. Into the Winkler verse. We'll be back soon. See ya.
