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The Panthers ended up trading to #32 last night

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April 26, 2024 3:50 pm

The Panthers ended up trading to #32 last night

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April 26, 2024 3:50 pm

John Breech, CBS Sports, on what the Carolina Panthers have done, what they should do, and his observations of other teams.

What does John think the Carolina Panthers might do today in the NFL Draft? Why might they be in a good position today? Which team reached the most for a QB? Which draft pick does John think was a bad one and for which team? What did John think of the Minnesota Vikings trade? Are the Chicago Bears now a part of the BEST division in the NFL for this upcoming season?


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Dude, if you haven't seen the video yet, it's the greatest thing ever. It is such a bad look. It just, it would be a perfect exclamation point to Tepper throwing the drink on the fan of the opposing team. I guess it was in Jacksonville, or wherever it happened. Atlanta, I don't know where it happened anymore. Tampa, this year.

It was at Jacksonville. If so, if you haven't seen it yet, you can hit to my timeline at A Gold Fan. It's right there.

It is beautiful. How you doing? Hey, look, you know, no one can accuse David Tepper of not caring. If he gets so mad he's out there throwing a drink at people, gets so offended by a sign at a restaurant, man, that is a guy who cares, maybe cares too much, maybe hates everyone. But also, it helps when you're a billionaire and you can just kind of react to anything however you want. It absolutely does. All right, quick thoughts. A couple of things have been pointed out to me that I was not aware of. I was otherwise occupied with hockey last night. So Panthers didn't give up a ton, obviously, to move up one spot. They had a pick swap of six, a sixth, and a fifth.

141 goes out, 200 comes in. A little bit of a difference there, but it might not matter at all. What did you think of the Panthers moving into the end, the last pick in the first round, moving up one spot to get Xavier LeGette?

Yeah, I don't have an issue with it. I think a lot of people were kind of scratching their heads about why Carolina would make that move from 33 to 32. And I think the obvious answer is because it gives you that fifth year option. So, you know, it's as simple as that is now you have him under your control for five years. If you take them with the first take in the second round, now you have to, and he ends up being a star. You have to worry about getting that extension done after year three.

Now you can wait till year four. So it was definitely about getting control of the player and having that contract last a little bit longer. But look, the Carolina Panthers needed some receiving help. I think that most people would agree that was probably their biggest need going into the draft. So I don't think if you're a Panthers fan that you can be disappointed at all. You saw a team that was aggressive, they got in the first round and they filled their biggest need.

And I think that's exactly what you want to see if you are a Panthers fan. And if he's really good, they can sign him to that contract after year three anyway, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. But this just gives you, and I think it's more, if they're on the fence, if they look like they could be great, they're kind of on the cusp of that or in the good range and it's all right. Well, now we have that fifth year option. We have another year to get things figured out. But if they end up looking like Jamar chase or Justin Jefferson or AJ Brown, then you just sign them up after three years anyway. So it doesn't matter. But yeah, that extra year is definitely a big thing.

All right. Now, if you were drafting at 39 and you really needed a cornerback or maybe even another wide receiver, what's the best value left on the board in your estimation? Well, it is interesting when you look at how the board kind of fell. I think if you need a quarterback, you're in a great spot right now, because you look at all the guys that fell. I mean, whether we're talking about Cooper to Jean, uh, Cloyd McKinstry, you have Ennis Rakeshore from Missouri there. You just have a lot of top tier guys that if you're the Panthers, maybe you trade up to 34 35 to make sure you get one of those guys. But I think any team that needs a quarterback at the top of the second round is in a great spot. And even receiver, I think we saw quite a few receivers kind of fall down there into the second round.

I think 80 Mitchell from Texas is probably the biggest guy. But then you also have lad McConkie and key on Coleman, who are two guys that were arguably could have been taken in the first round. So I do think the Panthers are going to have a lot of options at 39th overall, and they should be able to get a good player. Yeah, though, if you think about it, there are at least four really good cornerbacks sitting out there, right? And there's at least two wide receivers. I if you're the Panthers and you went wide receiver wide receiver with your first two picks, I don't think it would be the worst thing that ever happened.

Because there's there's such a lack of like game breaking ability at that position. Adam Thielen is really a glorified tight end the way he is used, and that's fine. You bring in Deontay Johnson.

Now you've got the kid from South Carolina. If you added one more, like top wide receiver prospect to the mix, it wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened. Yeah, I think you could certainly justify it because if you're the Panthers front office, the only thing you need to know going into 2024 is whether Bryce Young is your quarterback of the future. And it's not really fair to assess how he's playing if you don't have any weapons around him. So what you need to do is put as many weapons around him as possible. And if you draft another receiver, and like we just said, you added Deontay Johnson, you used your top two picks on receivers. Now you go into 2024 and you say, all right, well, now this is embrace young fan. This is on him to show that he can be our franchise quarterback.

And then if he struggles with all those weapons, that's a whole nother issue going into 2025. But at least you know. So yeah, I don't think it would be completely crazy to take a receiver, especially if one of the guys you likes one of the guys you like falls in your lap.

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Investment advisory services offered by Capital Financial Advisory Group, a North Carolina registered investment advisor. Ah, you know, I will say that, look, Michael Panics is definitely the most shocking pick, but I would say probably the Broncos taking Bo Nix at 12 overall. I mean, Bo Nix has been in college forever. When you're a quarterback, it's good. You go to the NFL. You don't stay in college forever. It's because your talent is just so much better.

It transcends everything. And so you say, all right, I am leaving school early and I'm going to the NFL draft. And that is not what Bo Nix did. He is just the Van Wilder of college quarterbacks just stay there as long as he possibly could. And so I'm not sure how he's going to do in the NFL. So I think he of the six quarterbacks taken, he was the biggest reach, but I do think he also landed a good situation with Sean Payton.

So it'll be interesting to see how that works out. Yeah. There's Sean Payton's pretty much attaching his Denver Broncos legacy to this, isn't he?

Oh yeah, absolutely. There's no way this pick is made unless Sean Payton signed off on it. And if he's looking there saying, you know, I don't know if the Broncos panicked and thought, man, five quarterbacks off the board. If we don't take Bo Nix now we're in trouble and maybe that's what happened. But look, you are really saying we got rid of Russell Wilson. We're kind of starting over from scratch here at quarterback. So Bo Nix better be good. So, you know, clearly Sean Payton feels good about this cause he's hitching his wagon and Nix.

Let me ask you real quick. I want to go back to the Falcons thing because look, I'm not an evaluator. So I'm such an uneducated opinion, but I love everything about Michael Pettis. I think the Falcons made the smartest possible move. If you remove the fact that they did it with the eighth pick in the draft and Dallas Turner on the board, which is obviously something that they needed. But they got their quarterback of the future and not only doesn't he have to play. He won't play for two full years, which means that by the time he hits the ground. He will have had time to, you know, have a couple of pre-seasons where he will probably play a lot under his belt and he will have had time to learn the NFL game. I think this gives them a great chance of having a quarterback two years from now with three, whatever it is, three years from now that is ready to play and ready to be good. I don't know that any of the other teams who drafted quarterbacks will have a better quarterback in year three than Michael Pennix as a result.

I mean, I look, Pennix is gonna be 24 when the season starts, you put them on the bench for two years. Now he's 26 and still hasn't played an NFL snap. Plus the biggest advantage of having a rookie quarterback is that you have them on your rookie contract. And now you've lost two years of that without seeing him play a single snap in a game.

So you don't even know if he's good. So after year three, you're gonna have to make a decision on his fifth year option. And after only seeing one year, imagine if the Panthers had to make a decision on Bryce Young's fifth year option right now, after seeing him play one season. I mean, that's almost an impossible thing to do unless they have a Patrick Mahomes ask season. And so it just feels like if you're the Falcons, there is no reason. So again, the rookie contract is your biggest advantage, but you threw that out the window because you have to pay Kirk cousins, $90 million over the next two years. And if Kirk cousins plays well, what if he leads you to two division titles?

You really want to get rid of them when you have two more years of them on our contract and throw Pennix out there. Who's inexperienced. You have no idea what he's going to look like.

So it just, I mean, there's a lot of question marks and I do agree with you. I like Michael Pennix. I think he could be a great quarterback. I just think this was the most bizarre situation for him to land. Yeah, honestly, I wouldn't have done it at eight, right? If I were the Falcons, I would have traded back to like, I don't know, 13, 14 and done it.

I wouldn't have done it at eight. It's silly to do it at eight because you really overdrafted Michael Pennix and you overdrafted a player who isn't going to play for two years. The whole, uh, yeah, the, the, the salary that you pay your quarterback, uh, for the first couple of years, the problem I have with that, and this is really more philosophical than anything.

And it's, it's probably unfair to make a blanket statement. Caleb Williams may come in and be great. I don't think any of the other quarterbacks are going to come in and be even good.

Jaden Daniels, Drake May, JJ McCarthy, Boney. I don't think any of them are going to be good in year one. Maybe they'll be good by year two or three, but I don't think any of them because they're in bad situations. I think all of them, uh, Drake may might be in the same situation as Bryce young was in with the Panthers and who has no weapons. I know they've got Juju Smith Schuster, uh, but that's basically all they've got in New England and the offensive line is suspect.

So I, with a new head coach, I don't know what's going to happen there. Uh, but I think you can run the risk of ruining quarterbacks by asking them to play too soon. I think the Panthers hope that they haven't done that with Bryce young because you can develop a lot of bad habits that are hard to break. I just, I just think letting a quarterback wait is never a terrible thing.

Yeah, I think it's interesting that the philosophy of the NFL has just changed on that where that was the standard going back in the day. You know, when Carson Palmer was drafted in 2003, the Bengals sat him for the first year behind John Kitna and nobody thought that was a big deal at all because that is how things worked. And then it just slowly progressed to, wow, if we're going to use this top pick on a quarterback, he's got to start right away. And I really think that the class that kind of pushed that through was 2008 when Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco both went in the first round and both found immediate success.

We saw Matt Ryan lead the Falcons to the playoffs after the whole Michael Vick thing and really turn that franchise around. So yeah, and it's not easy for a rookie quarterback to come in and just succeed in the NFL because I mean, look at the 2021 draft Zach Wilson and Trey Lance, two of the top three picks. They're probably never going to start another game unless there are backups somewhere in the starting quarterback gets injured.

So it is absolutely a crapshoot. And then that's the other thing is who knows, like you're saying, if any of these quarterbacks are going to be good in our first two years, I do think, you know, I agree with you for the most part that they didn't land a great situation. I think JJ McCarthy's in a great situation, Madison, Justin Jefferson, Aaron Jones, but I also think he's probably the fifth best quarterback out of the six. You know, if you put Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels in Minnesota, I think they have a great team, but I feel like the jury's still out on JJ McCarthy.

But yeah, I do agree that probably Caleb Williams and JJ McCarthy landed in good situations, but the other four, it's really up in the air. Eli Manning didn't wait a lot, but he waited behind Kurt Warner. Philip Rivers waited two years behind Drew Brees. Aaron Rodgers waited behind Brett Favre.

Jordan Love waited behind him. Patrick Mahomes waited a year behind Alex Smith. I think there's something to it, but again, it's philosophical because logically and from a salary cap standpoint, you're 100% right that the advantage of having a good quarterback, a quarterback you can win with on a rookie deal, on basically nothing as it pertains to quarterbacks for three or four years. That's an undefeated advantage. You'll always be able to have a better team. So I totally understand your point. What do you think of what the Vikings did with essentially sacrificing quantity for quality by trading up to get McCarthy? I've been calling him JJ McHenry all day.

I don't even know why, but McCarthy and getting Dallas Turner at 17, trading up to do that. Not valid with other discounts. Remember, visit five hour and use code five H E travel to save 20%. Without the ones like you who work tirelessly to keep things running, everything would suddenly stop. Hospitals, factories, schools and power plants.

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Call click Grainger dot com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done. I'm so mixed on the Vikings with our podcast after the show last night, one of our co-hosts called them a winner of the draft and they did OK. But you look at all the draftics they sacrifice to get. You know, they had to make a trade with the Texans to get to twenty three. Then they trade from twenty three up to seventeen. They had to give up a pick to get from eleven to ten.

Just they had to make all of these moves. And when you you know, when we're talking about the rookie contract, they're a great example of how teams think right now. You're the Vikings who had Kirk Cousins. So I think most people would agree is a better quarterback than JJ McCarthy right now. He has a plane NFL and the Vikings add to Neil Hunter and they let him walk because he's too expensive. So now you replace cousins with McCarthy, with McCarthy and Hunter with Dallas Turner.

So basically you're banking on the fact that those guys can give you maybe 80 percent of the production at 20 percent of the price. So that's just team building philosophy right now. And if J.J. McCarthy is a slightly above average NFL quarterback, he doesn't even have to be great. I think the move makes sense for the Vikings. So, I mean, I would give their draft like a B. I do like what they did. They replaced. They got their pass rusher. They got their quarterback.

But man, you know, getting rid of Dino Hunter, who was a star and getting rid of Kirk Cousins, certainly you don't know if that's going to work. John Breach, CBS Sports dot com. Pick six podcast. Super friend.

They were live after the draft last night. All right. Final question. And then we will let you go. And it's just I'll I'll I'll broad brush it for. I know the Bears went Caleb Williams, Roma Tunesi at number nine.

Are they could they chat? Look, I think it's a good division now. I think what the Bears have done, at least offensively, what the Packers are, what the what the Lions can be. That's what that what Minnesota. Is that the best division in football now?

I mean, you could say it's up there is definitely up there. I mean, and when you consider that last year going into last year, it was, well, the Lions actually going to be good. Jordan love.

No one knows if he's any good. The Vikings seem like a paper tiger. They probably won't repeat as champions.

And then you had the bear. So everybody was kind of just down on the NFC North, which is just the total opposite of where everyone is going to be coming into the twenty, twenty four season. And I think the crazy thing is that you have Caleb Williams. The number one overall pick is going to a team that went seven and ten last year. You don't have that happen where the number one, you know, the draft is designed for crappy teams to get the best players.

And instead you have an average team getting the best player. And so you look at that Bears roster, it's pretty stacked with Keenan Allen and D.J. Moore and Cole commit. And now Roma doomsday. So, you know, Caleb Williams is going to have a lot of weapons.

And so when you're talking about they were the worst team in the NFC North, and if that is the worst roster in the NFC North, then my gosh, the NFC North is absolutely stacked. John Breach at John Breach on Twitter. CBS Sports picks six podcast. Super fan. I thank you very much, man. I appreciate your time. Enjoy day two.

Yeah. Thanks for having me, Gold. Hey, thank you, man. Without the ones like you who work tirelessly to keep things running, everything would suddenly stop. Hospitals, factories, schools and power plants.

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