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What do we do now the football is over?

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February 16, 2024 4:14 pm

What do we do now the football is over?

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February 16, 2024 4:14 pm

Evan Cohen, Unsportsmanlike on ESPN, discusses their morning show, what it’s like to deal with Chris Canty’s daily hot takes, and what he’s most looking forward to now that football is over for a few months.

What’s likely to happen with Justin Fields? Is the Chicago Bears going to draft a QB? How odd is it that the Carolina Panthers and the Chicago Bears are this connected? Is there an individual athlete that’s made similar impacts to their sport like Caitlin Clark currently is? Who’s the greatest golfer, in Evan’s opinion?


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I appreciate it. So, what do we do now that football's over, Evan? We talk about football more, I think, is what normally happens. We talk about hypotheticals around football. We wait for Duke in North Carolina to do what they can do around the postseason and the March Madness NCAA Tournament. We talk about, well, Kaitlyn Clark is what we want to talk about last night.

She was unbelievable. I love the NBA personally. I know that not everyone necessarily does. But what we do when football is over is talk about football. It's really what's happened here in the sports world. It is different than when you and I first started in this or when you and I were growing up.

It was more seasonal, right? Football's over, now we move on to basketball and hockey and baseball, etc. But that is not the case anymore. That more people are going to be interested in quarterback play, coaching moves. Where could this quarterback go or that quarterback go? And that is what the majority of the people love. You know that better than anybody.

Yeah, there's no question. I saw, like, we're speculating on where Russell Wilson ends up. And every year, Evan Cohen from ESPN Radio, unsportsmanlike, is joining us here in the Adam Gold Show. Every year it seems like we get into the offseason and now we're just a week into it. It's kind of amazing.

And there is a theme. And a couple of years ago, it was Baker Mayfield. We spent an entire summer talking about Baker Mayfield.

And I just thought, wow, we have really reached the depths. We're talking about somebody who just hasn't quite hit it yet, even though he was the number one overall pick. I think we're going to start talking about Justin Fields and the Chicago Bears. I know they've got the first pick. Isn't it pretty simple that if you have an opportunity to reset your quarterback's salary clock with somebody who is probably going to come in at least not far off the pace that Justin Fields is at right now, that you're going to do it if you're Chicago? Yes.

And I am just here's the thing that's so interesting. If you think about the football team in your state, have we ever seen two teams more oddly connected to each other than Carolina and Chicago right now? Isn't it weird that like that trade happens last year? Your quarterback situation is what it is. Every one of the people in every every Carolina fan probably thinks about the idea of Bryce Young versus Caleb Williams.

Bryce Young versus C.J. Stroud. Right.

Yes. Then then you're looking at it this year as well. You don't have the first pick, but you would have had the first first pick. So you traded it to the Bears if you're the Panthers. But now should the Bears trade it? They trade Justin Fields. They do trade Justin Fields.

Is he better than Bryce Young? So they're like like all these things are just odd. I don't know.

Maybe it's just me. So I'm talking to you and I'm thinking about this, like how connected it is. But yes, they're going to take Caleb Williams. I don't know if there's any question about it.

The only thing, Adam, that I would say, and this is where everyone seems to think I'm wrong about this, but OK, I'll throw it out there. If I'm the Bears, don't I want a signed, sealed, delivered Caleb Williams before I move on from Justin Fields? Don't I want to make sure that Caleb Williams wants to be on my team before I'm moving on from him? Now, Cantu, you mentioned, and Michelle Smallman, the three of us, obviously an unsportsmanlike, they fight me off by saying, OK, well, if it's not Fields and I'm sorry, if it's not Caleb Williams, Drake May, UNC or Jason Daniels, LSU is better than Fields anyway.

So you're still moving off of Fields. But yeah, this is all obvious to you and I. It doesn't mean that the Bears won't play the game. And the Bears do not have a great history with quarterbacks. As a matter of fact, earlier this year, we talked with Eric Kramer, who still has many Chicago single season quarterback records. And it's not like he put up, you know, Patrick Mahomes-like seasons in Chicago. The best quarterback in Bears history is probably Jay Cutler, right?

He's probably the best quarterback they've ever had. Sid Laughlin may be 100 years ago, but yeah, I get the point. Yes, you're right. You and I are not young. We ain't that old.

Never seen Sid Laughlin. Well, they didn't have face masks back in that day. Exactly. They had the one bar face mask. But here's the other thing, though.

So I challenge you to do this, because I put this out there, Adam. When was the last time a failed first-round quarterback went to another team and succeeded? So what is the value for Justin Fields? Think about it.

Yeah. People have actually said to me, well, Baker Mayfield. And I said, well, wait a minute. Baker Mayfield went to the Carolina Panthers, then went to the Rams, then went to Tampa Bay. So that took him a while. When was the last time you had a quarterback that you would say first-round pick did not succeed with said franchise, then immediately went somewhere else and was successful? The track record for Justin Fields going somewhere else, it made successful, not there. The track record for Caleb Williams in a Bears uniform, as you just pointed out with your Eric Kramer reference, which is a great one, is not pointing in the right direction either.

So all signs point to everything being a mess with the straps at the top of it. Yeah, also the first quarterback taken in these drafts, I still think that the science is not in on Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud. Stroud clearly is going to be, already is very good, is going to be very good. I just don't think we're done yet judging Bryce Young based on how dysfunctional everything was around him a year ago with Carolina. Now, does it appear?

By the way, can I count them? Let me just jump in on something. I'm so glad you said that. I'm not the biggest Bryce Young guy, but the idea of writing the number one overall pick off because he had what looked like a rookie season is ignorant. And now, when you bring in arguably the most handsome coach in the league, let's talk, I mean, that guy is a good-looking dude. I don't know if that's going to make Bryce Young better, but I saw him at the press conference.

I mean, geez, I would love to look like this guy. But I think the concept of writing him off is so absurd. Peyton Manning stunk his rookie year. I'm not saying Bryce Young is Peyton Manning. I'm just saying because C.J. Stroud is great, it doesn't mean that Bryce Young is not also going to be great. Right, and Bryce Young doesn't necessarily have to be better than C.J. Stroud for it to be a good pick.

He just has to be really good. And by the way, I think D'Amico Ryans is the most handsome coach. If you don't tempt me with this stuff, this is my area.

I love this stuff. All right, here we go. D'Amico Ryans is in there. Sean McVeigh has got to be in there.

Oh yeah, Sean McVeigh is very handsome. Leflore is probably in there a little bit. He's not my type. Matt Leflore is not my type. I like Robert Sala, but I don't know. He's kind of guy at the gym. Robert Sala. I don't know.

Here's the thing about Robert Sala. I'll put the Just For Men in now that I'm on TV because I don't want the gray. The Just For Men on the beard, not as in on like Sala has. Yeah, just accept the gray in your beard.

It's not that big a deal. Yeah, but my wife does the hair thing for me, so it's not all too gray on TV. But the beard, I think you can deal with.

I don't know. It's like the hair for me. He's got great skin. I think Robert Sala has great skin, and I'll just leave it there.

Thank you very much. Real quick to Kaitlyn Clark, because this question was asked of me. Is there another athlete that did for their sport what she is doing for women's basketball?

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Call or just stop by. Grainger, for the ones who get it done. Now, let me just let me let me add, okay. Just relative to who is the individual athlete to get you to watch a sport more than you did prior. That that's Tiger Serena and then Kaitlyn Clark would fit under that. You cannot in any way, shape or form compare Kaitlyn Clark to the historical significant and the doors kicked in. Thankfully, by Tiger and Serena to open up their sports to people that look different than a white male or female. So I am not like what Tiger has done and Serena and I love both of them for so many reasons.

So I'm not comparing Kaitlyn Clark to that. I'm just saying most people are watching the NFL. Most people are watching college football. Some are watching the NBA, MLB and NHL.

Some are watching college basketball. Less than some were previously watching women's college basketball outside of, you know, Tennessee, Yukon, South Carolina, etc. And when there's up years for respective schools, Kaitlyn Clark is an attraction that people are watching that sport because of her, which is an amazing accomplishment. I would argue, and I said it today on Sportsman like that, I think in the last decade plus, she may be the biggest college athlete we've seen.

Zion has come up at Duke, obviously, in the one year he was there. Kaitlyn Clark obviously there longer. But the person that everyone kept coming back to, and what an insane compliment if we're going to say it similar this way, was Tim Tebow. I think Tebow was way bigger than Kaitlyn Clark.

But if that's the comp, and Tebow is a great guy who accomplished a lot of things, irrelevant, what they do on the next level, Adam, doesn't matter in this argument. But if Kaitlyn Clark in college draws the kind of attention that Tebow does for the right reasons, oh my God, what an amazing story. And I also think, and this is part of my answer to Kaitlyn Clark, is that what she has meant in terms of people recognizing that there was a market inefficiency with the attraction of women's sports on television. This happened during the Women's European Soccer Championships a couple of summers ago, where they didn't expect it to be as big as it was. And then it broke every single viewership and attendance record that has ever been set, and they went, wait a second, this is obviously a bigger deal than we think. And now you're starting to see the explosion, and I think Kaitlyn Clark is part of the reason why, or maybe the reason why the networks have finally gone, wait a second, people want to watch this. Let's give it to them more, and then let's put it on a streaming service so nobody can see it.

It's fine, because it was supposed to be on Peacock anyway, and look, I have Peacock because I'm a soccer fan, so every Saturday and Sunday morning I'm there watching it. So, before we have to say goodbye to Evan Cohen, at Evco Radio on Twitter, unsportsmanlike on ESPN every weekday morning, Patrick Mahomes is now better than Tom Brady. Deal with that.

No, he's not. Stop it. Adam.

Adam. Just deal with it. You and I have talked multiple times.

Every single time we've talked, I've left with a smile on my face. Don't do this. Don't do this. No, this is what we're supposed to do.

Chris Canty would do this. Oh, God. I was texting all week with Victoria, trying to figure out the time, when we're going to do this.

We had great exchanges. What about here? What about there? 99.99 in Raleigh is the fan.

It's these stations. I got Grovie, I got Paul, I got everybody involved here. Now I'm going to be out on this?

What is happening here? You're not really going to... Do you realize that Tom Brady has double plus one the amount of Super Bowls that Mahomes has won? Michelle Smallman said it perfectly on our show this week. Patrick Mahomes is the GOAT in waiting. That doesn't mean you ever become the GOAT, right? Bill Guthridge was the coach in waiting for Dean Smith. He became the head coach. They went on to ultimately, when Roy Williams was there, that's probably where we're going to go. I just think, in general, what Patrick Mahomes has done is insane. The best start to a career, arguably, in history.

That does not mean he's going to win as much as Brady has won and play as highly at a level that Brady has played at for as long as Brady did. Alright, I'm going to ask you questions. Okay, yeah.

I'm nervous where this is going, but go ahead. Greatest golfer of all time is? It's Jack.

No, it's not. It's Tiger. Tiger's the greatest player ever. Jack is the most accomplished player ever.

Do you know? Who's the greatest basketball player in UNC basketball history? The answer is not Tyler Hansbrough. No, it's Henrik Roedl. Adamola Okolaje. It's Kevin Salvadore. It's Brian Reese. I could go all day with you on this one.

Let's do this. I mean, George claims Shimon Williams too easy. Donald Williams, 93, Final Four. I mean, that's one of the great performances ever.

Mokhtar N'Gai, the transfer from Michigan. I mean, come on now. Do you want to play this game? I dare accept you all day long. You didn't think I had this in me. No, I absolutely didn't.

I knew you had it in you. My point is that we confuse accomplished with greatest. Like, I don't think that Tom Brady is the greatest, like, player who ever played the position. Like, I think Dan Marino's a better quarterback than Tom Brady. No, he's not. Oh my God, Adam.

No, he's not. But Brady was the best winner we've ever seen. And there's something to be said for that. Adam, come on.

Three hours to fill every day. I could argue all of these things, Evan. Can we do, next time I come on, can we do a random North Carolina player draft? Let's do it. Let's do it. You and Victoria text and then just let me know when we're doing it.

I'm ready. So, here's the thing. We can't study. We have to agree we cannot study beforehand.

It has to be off the top of our head, right? You don't have to worry about that with me. That is all safe with me. Brady above Canales and D'Amico, right? You know what I'm saying?

Well, Brady is definitely. Oh, if he doesn't win some sort of an award for being the DJ in the Dunk Kings commercial. Oh, so good. So good. Fantastic. I love that spot. Have you seen the longer version of it?

You don't think I search everything Tom Brady on the Internet at all? There's a four and a half. The four and a half minute version of that is just absolutely brilliant.

It should win an Academy Award for like a great short. It's tremendous. I'm actually, I mean, I'm insulted. You've asked if I've seen that.

How dare you not think I've seen that. I apologize to Evan Cohen on Sports for the Like on ESPN Radio at Evco Radio. All right, we're doing the draft next time. All right. Tell Joe Forte I say hi. Thanks, man. Take care.

He's just just throwing salvos at me. Lindsay Brown is going to join us from from the West Coast in a little bit. Canes have a very big weekend coming up. So this is why, like Evan, in many ways, like we do the same thing. Right. So we have here's what we're going to talk about today. And then all these other things happened. And it's honestly it's misspent youth is what it all is. It all comes down to is how much time did you waste as a young person and what did you waste time doing? It's all it is. So some because I have ad people ask me, see, this is what you get when you don't study. You're doing other things. So I appreciate Evan Cohen for jumping on without the ones like you who work tirelessly to keep things running.

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