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First of all, happy new year. It was good to see you on Saturday as well. Sorry, I didn't stick around for the pucks, but, uh, first of all, NC State, as you mentioned, played superbly and especially on the defensive end. Tony Bennett, who we know is a connoisseur of defense, singled out Jayden Taylor and said that he is one of the best on the ball defenders he has seen on tape all season, which is high praise coming from Virginia's coach. And they made things very difficult for Isaac McNeely on the perimeter. I know he finished with 18 points, but a lot of them came late long after the issue had been decided and the pack didn't get flustered by Virginia's pack. The pack line defense and they found good shots, knocked him down. DJ Burns was really good passing out of post trap and just a complete performance.
David Taylor is joining us here on the Adam Gold Show. It seems like every year Kevin Keats has reshaping a roster, right? Uh, now there are some holdovers, but for the most part, uh, there, it's an entirely new team. I do think though, that this team is closer to what his roots are.
When he got to NC State from UNC Wilmington, it was, uh, there was a lot of, uh, this might sound like a negative. I don't mean it to be it's there's, there was a lot of sameness, a lot of players that looked alike, a lot of players in the six, four to six, seven range athletic. They can't not only play good half court defense, they should be able to play good full court defense and maybe help their offense out a little bit.
Agreed. They they've got some, you know, athleticism on the perimeter, but Adam, they've got some size in the post. Now it's not just DJ Burr, right? You know, middle Brooks gives them, gives them another, uh, post player and Diarra.
Uh, they, they can come at you in different ways on the interior. And I think that really helps them defensively as well. Although granted DJ Burns is not your defensive stone. Uh, he's so entertaining. Uh, he is very nimble. He's a shot maker.
He didn't have to score because NC state obviously got great performances, uh, from elsewhere. And I think state, I think has enough, uh, enough shooting to be dangerous. Did they, before I ask you about Virginia, does NC state look like an NCAA tournament team to you?
To the, to the eye? Yes. And I, I think eventually the metrics will be, will be kind to them and the teams they lost to are, are doing quite well. That helps. And, you know, but by the end of the year, you know, they're in that they're in that mid range right now on the net, but the net's very fluid this time of year. Uh, they perform well in conference, which I tend to believe they will above 500.
Then I think they'll be in the bracket. Yeah. I can't wait to see what happens on Wednesday against Carolina. Yeah.
It should, I mean, it should be an absolute blast. I think it's an eight o'clock game at PNC arena. And the thing about it is that state's defense and Carolina went to Clemson and won with defense too, uh, might be the best defensive performance I have seen from a North Carolina team, uh, under Hubert Davis. I thought their defense was suffocating. Uh, and it's, it's tough to out tough Clemson because that's basically their calling card, but I, uh, I appreciated, uh, what the Tar Heels did.
What is, what is going on? Cause I really, I was under the impression that Virginia was, I mean, not, well, obviously not a vintage Tony Bennett team, but with Beekman and done, I really thought that this team had something, uh, is there a problem simply, uh, everything away from John Paul Jones arena? Thus far Adam, it is, you know, four losses all by at least 16 points. And not that any of those got away late. I mean, they were lopsided for most of the second half, each of those four. And the one that was most jarring was at Notre Dame.
Right. No Notre Dame gave Duke and NC state. Tough runs. Notre Dame lost it home to the Citadel Notre Dame lost it home to Western Carolina. That's just a game you can't lose by 20 plus points, but yet that's what the Cavaliers did. And they were players did. And what Tony Bennett has described is an immaturity in which this team, when the shots aren't falling, they allow that to affect their willingness to defend. And as we all know, that is not started with coach bent.
Yeah. Willingness willingness to defend is supposed to travel. That's supposed to be consistent. There will be nights when you shoot it poorly. That's just the nature of the beast, but defense needs to be consistent.
And thus far it has not. Yeah, that is a bad combination for the university of Virginia. David Teal from the Richmond times joining us here on the Adam Gold Show.
Let me ask you about tonight. Do you think the folks in Tallahassee will be paying attention tonight? To what they hope is their fellow big 10 compatriots from Michigan and Washington playing for a national championship.
Oh man. I feel terrible for those players. I don't really feel bad for the administrators, because I view them as a bunch of blowhards, but I do feel that the players earned a spot in the playoff. And I felt anybody that assigned any importance to the orange ball after that had an agenda, an absolute agenda. There's nothing you can draw from it. Those players should, frankly, I would have advised Florida State to bow out entirely from the game.
They didn't know anybody anything, did they? Hey, didn't Carolina say no thanks to the NIT one year? To last year? Yeah. So the, the orange ball was essentially FSU's NIT.
Okay. You're, you're not taking us for the playoffs. Then what do we, we went 13 and up. If that doesn't matter, why should this matter to us?
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Chumba casino.com. You're right. Florida state absolutely did deserve to be in the playoff. Don't give me this stuff about Jordan Travis's injury and such with a number three quarterback, right? Number two quarterback against Florida in the regular season finale, the knows were more impressive than Alabama was against Auburn. All Alabama needed an absolute gold-plated prayer, right? Beta met Auburn team and you somehow, I know they turned around and beat Georgia in the sec title game, but the sec wasn't the sec this year and FSU still beat Louisville by two scores with a number three quarterback who wasn't even going to play in the CFP. And yet, yeah, we, we, it's, it's absolute sacrilege to think that we could have a playoff without the mighty Southeastern conference.
And that was the problem. They lobbied better. Isn't that part of it that their lobbying effort was better than the ACCs, which was basically non-existent.
I'm not sure I'd buy that simply because, and maybe I'm naive. I cannot imagine that the folks on that committee are so insecure in their own opinions and their own observations of the sport that they are charged to manage, that they are somehow influenced by what Greg Sankey says on game day, or what any of us other media dopes are saying or writing it to me, it's irrelevant. But, but the national narrative wasn't just about Sankey, I guess, but the national narrative was, I mean, how can you have a college football playoff in a four team era that doesn't involve the SEC champion, especially as great. And I use air quotes there as Alabama had been playing, when frankly, and I, I talked about this all year.
Were they playing well? Yeah. But what you have done, like the resume that you put out there should matter. And Florida State's resume was better because it had zero in the loss column, not to mention two wins over the SEC, right?
That's the big thing. MSU defended Jayden Daniels better than Alabama did. But it doesn't matter because Jordan Travis, who was like 11th in the Heisman trophy balloting or whatever, they morphed him into like the greatest quarterback we've ever seen, as though Florida State couldn't win a game, had no chance to compete without their quarterback.
But that's, that's neither here nor there. Let me ask you one quick thing about Florida State and their pursuit of freedom. Florida State fans feel like they have the smoking gun that the ACC withheld information about the television contract and about the renewal.
And they should be that the only penalty is the exit fee. What do we know about where this legal fight is headed? I think we know precious little. Other than, and I don't even know this, but I think to me, it's self-evident.
And I don't think this is hyperbole. The future of the conference is on the line here. I think this is a legal hill the ACC is willing to die on.
And therefore, I think this will be protracted and perhaps unpleasant for both parties. Yeah, they, the ACC cannot settle. They cannot negotiate a buyout for Florida State because that just opens the door.
Not unless that buyout involves hundreds of millions of dollars. Oh, I would think that number would have to be pretty close to a B before you can agree to it. Yeah. Well, it being the Florida State's lawyers in their filing estimated, if held to the letter of the law with exit fees and the grant of rights, that they were looking at nearly $600 million. Oh, I think that's a low ball. It might be.
Yeah. So it's a low ball based on the where they expect to land. If they expected to land in the SEC or the big 10, then we're talking about whatever times 10, you know, 80 million times 10 plus the exit fee.
The number is closer to, again, closer to a billion than it is to a half a billion. But I just don't think the ACC can afford to settle. I think you're right.
This has to be to the mat. And if they have the stomach to do that and they want to have a hostile member, then they have a hostile member. But that's I think where it's unless, of course, and I said this to Florida State fans, unless y'all are right, in which case this will be pretty simple. It won't it won't tie us up very long at all.
ACC is wrong. The whole conference is going to dissolve because we're going to have rats exiting the ship. Well, if the rats have places to go.
The rats have places to go. Oh, there's that, David. Sorry to be the fly in that way, but I'm still convinced of it.
I'm with you. I think North Carolina, Virginia. Duke. Florida State, maybe Clemson, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I actually think the the three most attractive options are the first three I mentioned. Could be so. I think the SEC and the Big Ten have plenty of work to do in assimilating to their incoming members now that difficult for me to think that they are eager to accept even more.
I agree with you at by David Teal on Twitter. Enjoy the game today. Who do you got tonight? Michigan or Washington? I like the Huskies.
I'm all on board with Michael. Me too. Me too.
I'm with you. All right. Hopefully we're both right. I appreciate your time, sir. I'll talk to you and I'll probably see you soon. Hope so, Adam. Be well. You got it. David Teal here on the Adam Gold show. Play for free right now. Are you feeling lucky?
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