Hyper-focusing on the quarterback position with former East Carolina head coach Steve Logan

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See website for details. Steve Logan joins us, former East Carolina coach, former Rhine Fire offensive coordinator. Man, he's been everywhere, including in this studio with me a lot. Coach, how you doing? I'm telling you what, you're going back into the history books. The Rhine Fire, which was one of the two best years of my life, by the way. Coaching football in Europe now. That was the best, best job ever. I'd still be doing it, like I've told you, if I hadn't dropped it.

I know, if I haven't. And who knows? Maybe the league will come back, but I know Roger Goodell had hinted over the weekend that a franchise, maybe an entire division in Europe is not out of the question. That's the way I think it could work, if they had an entire division across Europe. I just don't see how you can put one team over there and have it be fair to players from both sides.

I just don't see how they can do that. But let's talk some quarterbacks. Carolina's Bryce Young, game one obviously wasn't what he wanted, but I thought there were a lot of good things that he did other than being able to find out where the safety was on a couple of occasions, which probably you need to do better. What was your read on what we saw from Bryce in game one?

I think there's a lot of upside cooking there. Just like you said, it's the same refrain you hear from all those rookies that come into that league. The speed of it is just so much different now. Of course, he had all of OTAs and pre-season to get somewhat acclimated to how fast it was going to be.

And yet, I can testify to you that the opening game of any NFL season, it ratchets up another couple of degrees even beyond that. He got a dose of that, and we're going to see if he acclimates and processes things better moving forward. I think there's a lot of upside there. He's a unique guy, though, just physically. It would have been hard for me to first pick of the draft and all that. You do what you've got to do, and you've got to believe the film that you have, but we all know the biggest question is, is it going to translate?

Is it going to make that transition? And he's just so slight of build, and the short factor doesn't bother me that bad. Short quarterbacks find their survival instinct has taught them throughout their careers to slide into throwing lanes, Drew Brees being the prime example. But again, I'm going to watch him with a lot of interest, put it that way, but I think there's a good chance he'll be a winner.

Yeah, it all depends. A winner, depending on what Carolina surrounds him with, my biggest takeaway from the game is that if I was directing a defense against Carolina, there's really nobody I have to take away. You basically stop the run.

If I stop the run, I probably have Carolina in control, and Carolina ran it well enough, I think, maybe to do some things in play action, but they just weren't able to get anything going, really. Well, just think of this. Eventually, Tom Brady leaves the New England Patriots out of frustration with what?

Not enough weapons to support him. Now, you're talking about Tom Brady, for crying out loud. So, if it can affect Tom Brady, it affects every quarterback in the league, and all the way down to the collegiate level. You've got to have somebody catch football, and you've got to have somebody that can separate, and ideally you've got somebody that forces the secondary to double cover. Now, when that happens, everybody else's game can go up a notch, all the rest of the receivers I'm talking about, because they're in a single coverage, and those kinds of coverages are relatively easy to discern for the quarterback.

And so, you know, the domino effect kicks in, but you're right. I don't see anybody that scares you to death on Carolina's receiving corps right now. Steve Logan is joining us here, quarterback guru on the Adam Gold show. I'm not going to say it would that Bryce Young shouldn't play this year.

In my opinion, the Panthers really don't have an alternative, all respect to Andy Dalton at this point. Jordan Love had the benefit of whether or not his relationship with Aaron Rodgers was mentor, mentee, whatever. He had the benefit of watching one of the best who has ever done it play for three full seasons before he gets his opportunity.

And he looked good yesterday. What benefit is there to not playing right away? There's a lot. I can testify to that. You know, we went through a tragic unfolding of events. When I was at Tampa Bay, we brought in a young man that was going to, he was our first-round draft pick. And Josh Freeman was his name, and a great kid. And it was announced by ownership that he was going to sit his first year. Well, that lasted exactly two games. And he was thrown into the league into his third week in the season.

He was thrown out as a starter. And he kind of, we suffered through a three and 13 year that year. Now the next year, we went 10 and six with Josh. And, but then the wheels fell off all over again.

But I'm just saying that, you know, you can analyze that thing any way you want. I mean, you could pick Peyton Manning, right? He goes three and 13.

And throws 90 million interceptions. Well, when you do that with a young man, there's now a fork in the road is coming very quick. Will that experience break him or make him? And well, Peyton Manning, it made him, right? He toughened up.

He figured it out and off we go. And you can, I could sit here and drag up three, four, five names that actually broke the young man. And he never recovered. So, you know, you're just, there's a lot of ways to skin the cat. I would say this about Aaron Rogers. Guess what? He sat there for three or four years, right? So, I mean, ideally there's no question.

The best thing to do is to absorb it for two years and then go give it a whirl. But those days are long gone. There's too much money involved. And, you know, throwing them out, that's the routine now. You're a first round draft pick quarterback, you're playing.

And you better get ready and here we go. And now where it goes from there, it's anybody's guess. We've all seen, we've got enough data to know it's anybody's guess. Yeah. Well, I mean, the data also tells us that first round pick, first round draft pick quarterbacks succeed about one out of every three.

And that number is actually lower among top 10 draft pick quarterbacks than lower. Let me interrupt you right there. Okay. I'll give you Bryce Young. I'll take Brock Purdy. Right. I mean, Brock Purdy was Mr.

Irrelevant or whatever that thing was. Last pick in the draft. And I got news for you. He's good. He's going to be good. And he's good. I'm just telling you, I don't want to hear it. I know he's on a good football team.

He's a good, really good NFL quarterback. So there it is right there. I'll take Brock Purdy and whatever else you give me, you take Bryce Young and let's go play. I'll bet on me right now. There might not be any difference between the two.

To be honest, there might be no difference between the two in the long run. Does it help that he is on an exceptionally good and dangerous team? We talked about Carolina doesn't have guys you have to worry about. San Francisco's only got like four of those guys. Everybody. McCaffrey, Deebo Samuel, Brandon Ayew, George Kittle, a good offensive line and maybe the best defense in football. Other than that, they have nothing. But guess what? When Brock Purdy got hurt last year at a critical time, did that offense shut down?

Yes, it did. So I'm just telling you, Brock Purdy's really, really good. He's a seventh round pick. Yeah, in fairness though, they actually didn't have another quarterback. I understand that, but I'm just saying you can't just have the quarterback a la Tom Brady getting frustrated and leaving.

You can't just have great wide. There's a lot of competing agendas at work, but you got to have a good quarterback. That much we do know or you're not going anywhere. Let me ask you real quick.

And then I'm going to mention that I was going to ask you about Novak Djokovic for a second, but because I've you and I have talked about this before. But if you can as quick as you can sum up the difference between playing quarterback in college from the eyes of a quarterback and playing quarterback in the NFL and how that has changed over the years. I can tell you real quick. You want it real quick.

I'll give it to you real quick. Playing college quarterback is throwing a football through a tire. That's relatively difficult, but doable. Throwing completions in the NFL is throwing a BB through a keyhole. And I mean that and I've told when I coached professional quarterbacks that were coming in which I did an NFL Europe.

They were transitioning in. Yeah, I would tell him I think throwing football through a tire those days are over. You have to now accept the fact that a wide open receiver at this level has exactly one half of a step on the defensive back. He's open. Okay, and that football has got to be a BB through a keyhole accurate.

And then we're all going to have a good time because you just do a completion but until you accept those standards the new standard. It's a BB through a keyhole not a not a football through a tire. That's the difference. Do you like Drake May's future as a quarterback? Yeah. Yeah, he's a first-round pick and there was a lot of good things that could happen there and that you know, that's pretty easy to see and you know, he's he's going to be again.

He could be a first guy picked in the draft type of guy. Yeah. All right final thing before I let Steve Logan go is only 24 Grand Slam titles now for Novak Djokovic. I thought there but his match with Daniel Medvedev was more psychological than physical other Djokovic almost wins the mental game every time he goes on the court.

How do you sum up 24? He's 36 years old and he's still the best in the world. You know, you're not talked about this privately a lot, you know and tennis isn't a great talk radio subject. I get that but I'm just telling you this that you know, I started following Novak Djokovic when he was 18 years old. I picked the sport of tennis up when I was 40 and been fascinated with it ever since Novak Djokovic without question. If you want to talk about Michael Jordan and Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant, and I'm just telling you that Novak Djokovic is one of God's special special athletes.

It's ever come on the planet Earth from a physical mental emotional flexibility explosiveness toughness all the boxes you want to check. He's done checked him dude. Yeah, this cat is unbelievable and I love watching him compete.

He's just it's just incredible. I mean, he's still the best and he's 36 and I know Alcaraz is going to be around for a long time and Alcaraz has every single element you need to be not only a champion, but historically great. But man, I don't think he's getting to 24 and actually well Djokovic could get to 30. Yeah, I got to believe that there's at least two more left in Djokovic one being next year's Wimbledon because grass is a forgiving surface.

Yeah doesn't beat you up as bad and but I will say this that you know, the question and you know, I checked off all those boxes with Djokovic a second ago. Here's the big deal concerning tennis or any other sport but particularly tennis is durability. Yeah durability. Can you like you're talking about he's 36 years old crying out loud and he's a physical physical specimen. You know, can Alcaraz or any of these young guns coming up that are immensely talented will they have the durability to chase it to the number 24 man that's going to this is going to be like Joe DiMaggio's. What is it 58 game hitting streak that or the the Iron Man streak right that Lou Gehrig had that I mean to be able to just talking about durability. That is just it is incredible and it's such a physical game.

Now. It's no longer a finesse game. It's just such a physical test. I mean it's not only that Adam, but here's the thing about tennis too and Rafi and Nadal said it best, you know, his body finally broke down.

Yep, and he said he said this and there's this is profound. We're the only professional athletes on the planet that play on cement. They do I can testify. Listen, I can testify that I will not step foot on a hard court. I still play tennis hard. I play it hard and it's a violent game the stop start began, you know, all that stuff. It doesn't look like it's a violent game on the body. Yep. I will not touch my foot on a hard court and and I'm just telling you what it does to your legs and low back it will call Andre Agassi about his low back. No question. It's crippled it.

It did Steve Logan. You're the best man. I'll talk to you very soon. All right, man from I heart podcast Supreme the battle for row tells the story of the unlikely champions behind the landmark case Roe v. Wade starring Maya Hawk as 26 year old lead attorney Sarah Weddington for challenging the Texas abortion laws in federal court and Academy Award nominee William H. Macy as Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackman time is not the most important factor getting it right is listen to the podcast Supreme the battle for row on the I heart radio app. Or wherever you get your podcasts.