A Double-DQ in NASCAR?

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Visit us at capitalfinancialusa.com. This is the Adam Gold Show. This is the Adam Gold Show. What's going on? Dennis Cox is here on the ones and twos. Hey, I was a little distracted a second ago. Yeah.

What was the focus of our open? Okay, so we're gonna talk to Bob Pockrass in 15 minutes. Yeah, we are.

Bob Pockrass covers NASCAR for Fox. Oh, so based on what we're gonna... Yes.

So you put the open together based on the two disqualifications at Pocono. Yes. Right. By the way, I went snowmobiling at Pocono in the mountains of West Virginia. Yes.

In the mountains of Western Pennsylvania when I was a kid. Oh, okay. So this weekend? No, not this weekend.

Although you never know, man. Weather's... It's weird.

We live in crazy times. So that just double disqualification. Yeah. The person finishing third winning the race reminded me of Talladega Nights.

Oh, okay. And Cal Naughton Jr. finally getting a win. Did that happen in Talladega Nights? That's exactly what happened in Talladega Nights.

I have not yet seen Talladega Nights. Ah, it's on you. It's still in the theaters, right? I think it is.

Yeah. You were telling me that Sacha Baron Cohen is in that movie. He is. He is a wild man. He is absolutely a wild man. My favorite Sacha Baron Cohen role?

King Julian from Madagascar. Oh, okay. Phenomenal. Phenomenal performance.

How that did not win an Academy Award I do not know. So, yeah. So there was just some things going on here before the show. So I wasn't dialed in. Wasn't dialed in.

It's training camp season. You should be dialed in. I am.

I am incredibly dialed in. And we are going to talk training camp because Will Brinson will be here. So we will discuss that with him. We've got a bunch of things that we are going to touch on today. A little bit more about college sports from an SEC angle. We will get that from Barrett Silly of CBSSports.com. And there are just a lot of things going on. And we are not even going to start with football because there is even more going on than that.

So if you are ready, I am ready. Is Kevin Garnett Garnett? Where am I? Kevin Garnett. Who is Kevin Garnett? I was talking to my son about Kevin Garnett today.

I don't know why Kevin Garnett just. You are all sorts of distracted already. Your old friend walks in here before the show. It's like, hey. Oh, there is a show starting. Let me get out of here. This whole thing is weird, man. It's Monday. Yeah, I am just trying to make some last minute corrections here.

All right. So, is Kevin Durant that Kevin? Kevin Smith. Is Kevin Durant headed to the Boston Celtics?

Kevin McAllister. So, we know he wants out of Brooklyn. We know that Phoenix was the original destination. But then DeAndre Ayton, who would have been part of any deal between Phoenix and Brooklyn, got presented with an offer sheet from Indiana. And when the Suns matched the offer sheet, Ayton could not be traded. You cannot trade a player after matching the offer sheet.

If it's not completely in year one, it might be until a certain point of year one. But you can't. So they couldn't trade him now. So, Miami and Toronto were other candidates for that. But now, according to Adrian Wojnarzki of ESPN, a Wojbomb, the Celtics are in the mix.

How did this happen? Like everyone else, they called Brooklyn once it was revealed that Kevin Durant had asked for a trade back on June 30th. And I think like other teams who look at their makeup, where they are in terms of their championship pursuit, and do we have the assets that might interest Brooklyn? And it could bring in Kevin Durant and put us over the top. I think the answers for the Celtics on all those questions are yes. But of course, at what cost? What price for Boston? Well, how about Woj just answers his own question now?

So what would it cost? Jalen Brown certainly, when you look around the league at the individual players that would be available to the Nets, certainly Jalen Brown is appealing 25 years old, an all-star, a legitimate two-way player in the NBA. But he's got two years left on his contract. Of course, KD has four years left. And then what's the buildup of a trade from there? And as I reported, you know, the Celtics aren't any closer to a KD deal than anybody else who's involved.

All right, I could be wrong here. But if I'm Brooklyn, isn't the price tag Jason Tatum? If I'm Brooklyn, I love Jalen Brown. But if I'm trading Kyrie... What is wrong? What is wrong? What happened today? What happened to you this weekend? What happened to you? I'm looking right into the camera, man.

I have no idea. Look, we might as well just leave. If I'm going to trade Kevin Durant, I want somebody who does Kevin Durant things back. And that's what Jason Tatum is. Now, I'm not saying that because if I'm Boston, probably ain't giving up Jason Tatum. There's about, what, a 12-year difference in age? There's KD like 35 or 36 and Tatum's 24?

I ain't doing it if I'm Boston. Kevin Durant will turn 34 in September. He'll turn 34 in September and Tatum is probably 24 already. So we're talking about a 10-year difference in age. How many more years does KD have at his level knowing we have a little bit of a history of injury problems?

You know, whether it's knee or Achilles or something like that. But if I'm Brooklyn, that's what I'm asking for. I am asking for Tatum and I'll do it straight up.

You don't have to sweeten it at all. I'll do it straight up if you want to do that. With that said, Jalen Brown, if my ask is Jalen Brown, well, I need Robert Williams too if I'm Brooklyn. I want the big guy.

Anybody else? The report that they were asking for Marcus Smart, like, no offense, but I think that is situation-specific. I want the big dude. I want Robert Williams if the starting point, the star involved is Jalen Brown. I also don't know from Boston's standpoint why you want KD and Tatum on the same floor because I think they do very similar things. We'll talk about this with Brendan Whitted later on because he knows more about these things, our NBA analyst, one of our several NBA analysts. But that's where I would start.

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That's again. We have to find a different NFL soundbite. It just sounds like a bunch of guys vomiting training camp time. Now that Baker Mayfield has been dealt to the Panthers, the NFL's media arms, meaning everyone. Seriously, everyone. They need to find a new daily topic of discussion. Remember, we spent essentially a month and a half talking about Baker Mayfield almost every day.

Almost every day. Not us, but the sports TV establishment every day talk Baker Mayfield. It seems that they are settling on Lamar Jackson, which frankly considering how good he is, makes more sense than talking about Baker Mayfield every day.

Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley has the latest on Lamar. At what point does Lamar Jackson say? Okay, by his style of play and he has taken more contact than any quarterback has ever taken in the first four years of his career at what point does he say? Okay, because of my style of play.

I am more prone to injury. So you're going to have to pay me at some point or I have to adjust myself play because why would he put himself at risk at when he's playing under a contract that gives him no long-term security at all. Right, but the reason why Lamar Jackson doesn't have a long-term contract right now appears to be more about Lamar Jackson than it does the Baltimore Ravens unless the Ravens are low balling. Which they might be in which case Lamar Jackson is smart.

You don't take the best deal that they offer you take the best deal that your value can get. Because after this year Lamar Jackson will get I believe an exclusive franchise tag that will put his value at 45 and you know, like 45 and a half million dollars. And then if they franchise franchise tag him the next year that'll go up to about fifty four and a half million dollars. So if he gets through this year while there won't won't be a guarantee Jackson will have about a hundred million dollars coming to him in two years. Yeah, it's a lot of money Jackson is not playing this poorly.

But I also think that Jackson is a unique individual. He is under contract right now. He was at minicamp. And he is going to play because that's what he does and it's very cool.

It also appears that we're going to get a daily Jimmy Garoppolo update which I think is fantastic. Pretty clear the 49ers are hoping to deal him but to where and for who or what Aaron Schatz Football Outsiders says there's nothing out there. There's no market for him, which is I mean, I think that he is still a talented guy. Does he have his drawbacks?

Absolutely. But among players who have similar drawbacks to him his performance has always been really strong and at a certain point you have to sort of accept that he has been efficient and productive in the right offensive schemes. I mean, I think from what I'm seeing the only real market for him is Cleveland based on what happens with the Watson suspension, which we're all just sort of waiting for them to come down with the Watson suspension. So I mean, I would much rather have Garoppolo for half a season the Jacoby Brissette and if that's a full season suspension, then you're basically throwing the gear away with percent. Whereas Garoppolo with that offense, you know, which is very play action base plays to Garoppolo strength.

You've you've got a chance to be competitive with but I don't know what other teams are really in it at this point. All right, here's my question Dennis. I'm going to ask you to rank these three quarterbacks in order of ability. Okay, Jimmy Garoppolo. All right Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold. Probably Jimmy G Baker.

Sam 123. Yeah. Yeah Panthers get on it.

Like it happened Federer. If the if the 49ers are willing to eat a bunch of the salary if it's not going to cost you much then let's get on it. It's not hard.

It's not complicated. The Panthers have appeared to have been very very interested in incremental improvement at the quarterback position. You're getting to the point where hey, this guy might be a top. 20 NFL starting quarterback. We're closing in on it. Jimmy Garoppolo is competent very competent. He does dumb things sure, but he is incredibly competent and I like it.

I would do it if I were the if I were the Carolina Panthers, I wouldn't do it. By the way, the XFL has hasn't even come back yet. They are already expanded. They added what three more cities Orlando San Antonio and Houston. I don't necessarily added but maybe changed. Oh, they exchanged.

Yes. Okay, I get that sometimes you sometimes you buy a city and it doesn't fit. Yeah, and you exchange it for another city. Yeah, I don't know still eight teams. I don't even know the cities that they that they dumped. I got a bunch more football stuff to talk about. We'll do that with Will Brinson at the bottom of the hour. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6th, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina.

It's a story of transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly. The Canes Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the movie presented by the Aluminum Company of North Carolina. Listen now find James 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcast. Bob Pockrass covers NASCAR for Fox Sports and he joins us. And the reason I reached out to Mr. Pockrass is because it's been more than 60 years or as the kids say, it's been a minute since NASCAR disqualified a winner. And in this case, they disqualified the winner and essentially the play the the show horse. No, no show is the third the place horse the top two finishers get out of here. And Chase Elliott was declared the winner without ever having let her let a lap at Pocono. Bob Pockrass, how odd, how strange was this to cover?

It's really strange. I mean, look, about three years ago, NASCAR said they would start disqualifying drivers whose cars fail post race inspections. Because for decades, NASCAR felt that, hey, the fans see a driver take the checkered flag. They should expect that that driver is the winner. So even if that car failed inspection, they would find them heavily docked them a lot of points. But that driver got to keep the trophy.

And when it kept happening, fans were like, you know, this is ridiculous. Strip them of the win, which is what they do at most other racing series. And NASCAR said, OK, that's what we'll do. And they've disqualified cup drivers who finished second, who finished third, who finished fourth, would never winner until Sunday. And that was the first time in 62 years that a cup driver had been dequeued from a race.

Here's what's interesting to me. Bob Pockrass from Fox Sports, who covers NASCAR, is joining us here on The Adam Gold Show. Denny Hamlin tweeted out a picture later on with, I believe, his daughter, who had the checkered flag. And he said, you know, good luck getting it from her. So I think that checkered flag is probably safe, at least for now, in the Hamlin household.

How is this being received all over the place? And why didn't they catch these mistakes pre-race? So to answer the second question first, NASCAR said they found a material in the nose of the car that that the team isn't allowed to have. And it's a material that they saw after they peeled off the wrap of, you know, the sponsor wrap.

Right. And they don't peel the wrap off a car during pre-race inspection because then they'd all have to repair and put it back on. And they don't. And it's like it's a, you know, 45 minute or even more process to put on a full ramp so that it's not like the cars can come really unwrapped. So that's why they didn't find it in pre-race inspection.

How's it being received? I think everybody still wait and see, you know, want to see exactly what it was. They want to see if it's overturned on appeal, if Joe gives racing appeals.

And, you know, they want to kind of see what, you know, whether it was something that people made or that teams felt like made a big difference or not. But I can tell you this, you know, we talked to Chase Elliott this morning and he was like, you know, he kind of feels like he finished third. He's not out there celebrating. And I asked him, you know, if Denny has the trophy, how's he going to get it? And he said, if Denny wants to keep the trophy, Denny can have it. Really?

That is very interesting. Now, his car also was inspected post-race, correct? Correct.

And his car passed. Now, this is something I was unaware of, and you probably are not surprised that I was unaware of this, because, Bob, as many times as we've spoken, I think you have gathered that I am at best a very surface fan of the sport. But they're using kit cars this year. So explain to me, like, so are basically all the chassis the same?

They're all the same. So NASCAR, all the become NASCAR had become this sport where teams were just outspending each other on research and development and developing pieces. And the teams were spending so much money on that and building cars and building and doing everything it takes to build a car that in order to try to create purity and to try to cut costs and kind of not even just cut costs, but to be able to say, okay, if you have this much money, you should be able to get a car and get the pieces for a car and assemble it. This year, NASCAR, in developing an entirely new car, virtually all the parts and pieces are bought from vendors. And it's a single vendor for each part and piece. So you buy your chassis from this person, you buy the bodies from this person. The only thing different is for each manufacturer are the engine.

That's the only difference. So it's a way to create purity. But of course, it also took away potentially some of the ingenuity that the crew chiefs had. And along with it, it created, you know, NASCAR saying that, like, look, if you mess with these parts and pieces that you're not supposed to mess with, that you're just supposed to buy and assemble both on the car, then we're going to have to have big penalties for it.

So they've kind of been on the lookout this year for, you know, for what teams could be doing, you know, in order to, you know, kind of circumvent those rules. I'm also kind of looking at this all of a sudden from the manufacturer's point of view going, man, if I can't have my least at least a sort of version of my Malibu or or whatever the Ford car is used to be the Taurus for a while, whatever it was. If I can't have that, then I mean, I mean, I'm not saying who cares about the engine, but you understand, right?

But absolutely. So I should say the body pieces are all made by the same company, but they are different per manufacturer. The shape and they've all been to the wind tunnel and they're all supposed to meet, you know, a certain specification. Now, you know, there's some question whether they all still do after NASCAR made a bunch of changes to the cars and the NASCAR has to keep taking the cars back to the wind tunnel.

But yes, there is some body identification areas, especially in the front and the nose in the nose of the car. So what was the material that if that has even been released that was found? NASCAR hasn't released it yet. I think that's what every that's what that's what every tech reporter and and crew chiefs text chains are this morning.

But they said if you work in the sport, you're going you're looking you're trying to find out exactly what it was. They said it it impacted the aerodynamics of the car. So and that's really what they were why they disqualified him because it was they felt like it helped the aerodynamics of the car. There was one other story that came out this weekend.

And I wanted to get your take on this. Bob Pockrass from Fox Sports, NASCAR reporter Joe Gibbs Racing is the is the owner of the two teams that finished one and two. So they've been eliminated. And Joe Gibbs grandson, Ty, made news by filling in for Kurt Busch. Kyle Busch was the second driver who got dequeued. Kurt Busch couldn't race this week because of a head injury. So Ty Gibbs, Joe's grandkid, what, 19 years old, makes his debut.

What's going on? Makes his debut. I mean, look, Ty Gibbs has won four races this year in the Xfinity Series, which is NASCAR's version of AAA. A lot of people believe that he's ready to go cup racing. You know, Joe Gibbs Racing has not signed Kyle Busch yet for next year.

There's many people who think that Ty Gibbs should go in that car if they can't get a deal done with Kyle. There's another group that said that question, you know, whether he is just ready as a 19 year old for the rigor of a 38 week cup schedule and the demand to that. But if there is any question of whether he can race a cup car, I think some of that was answered yesterday. He had some simulator time at 1 a.m. on Sunday morning to get ready for the race Sunday afternoon and he went out there and he crossed the line in 18th and he ended up finishing 16th after the dequeues. You know, a very solid performance for him. And this is his first full year in Xfinity. He did a partial schedule last year. And again, you know, some people say why not just move him up to the cup level now.

But there's also, I mean, they just know that it just takes a certain level of maturity and a certain level of just, you know, preparation to be able to handle kind of the ups and downs and all the adversity you face during a cup season. Yeah, he also needs his own fire suit. He apparently doesn't have his own fire suit. He wore Kurt Busch's fire suit and Denny Hamlin's shoes, which, you know what, he's 19.

So maybe he just doesn't have all that stuff on his own yet. Bob Pockrass, Fox Sports. I appreciate your time, man. Thanks for putting up with me. All right. Thank you. You got it, Bob Pockrass. It's just a great story.

Good for, good for Ty Gibbs. This is the Adam Gold Show. Over the crossbar and the Hurricanes have won the Stanley Cup. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6th, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition, of heartbreak, of figuring it out on the fly. The Cane's Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the move. Presented by the Aluminum Company of North Carolina. Listen now. Find Cane's 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcasts.