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Washington National trade Juan Soto to the San Diego Padres

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August 2, 2022 1:19 pm

On the day of the MLB Trade Deadline, the Washington National traded Juan Soto and Josh to the San Diego Padres. Elliot Johnson, former MLB player, joined the show to talk about the trade of Juan Soto, how the Padres lineup will look, if the LA Dodgers will make a trade to counter the move, and if Shohei Ohtani will be traded by the LA Angels.

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Visit us at Capital Financial This is the Adam Gold Show. Six o'clock tonight Eastern Time. Major League Baseball's trade deadline before we get to the big news. Juan Soto has been dealt. It is Jacob deGrom Day and I don't bring this up because I am a Mets fan. And I haven't seen Jacob deGrom pitch since July 7th of last year. Wait a second.

I want to be honest. I bring this up because I am a Mets fan. Elliot Johnson never played for the Mets. Played for four other teams in the big leagues. He joins us to talk a little trade deadline.

Baseball. Did any team get better than the Mets did by adding Jacob deGrom to the roster? He will pitch tonight in Washington. He is making us proud. So Juan Soto going to the Padres I think makes them infinitely better.

Because think about it this way. Everybody that gets to hit around him is going to be better because he is going to require so much more of a taxing or he is going to tax the opposition's pitching in so many different ways. So the guy hitting in front of him is very happy. The guy hitting behind him is going to be happy because he is going to be on base a whole lot more which opens up holes. Which is also going to make his payday a lot better because he is going to stack his RBI's. He is going to stack extra base hits.

All kinds of different things. So I think Juan Soto's addition to the Padres probably has a more fundamental change to the rest of the guys on the team with the Padres than Jacob deGrom's addition to the Mets. I think he is going to have a better deal from Washington to San Diego. And the middle of that order. Probably the best middle of the order in Major League Baseball. Maybe the Yankees can come close to that because Aaron Judge is in it.

And Aaron Judge is like three different people. Let me go to Jacob deGrom because I wrote these down with the intent of saying it so I just want your reaction to these stats from last year. He pitched 92 innings before shutting it down with an elbow sprain.

92 innings, 15 starts, 11 earned runs, 52 base runners, and a 146 to 11 strikeout to walk ratio. How do you put that into context? Is that good Adam? Is that what you're saying?

Is that what you're suggesting? I believe that Pedro Martinez for seven years was the greatest pitcher that there has ever been. And those numbers dwarf anything Pedro did. Wow. That's hard to fathom because I remember how special he was in his heyday. Good grief. Like, you know, Doc Gooden. Good grief.

He was so good back in the day. So, yeah, I mean, I get it. I see what the Mets have. So I think we're going to step into the old adage of does good pitching beat good hitting? And typically, I think the answer is yes, because they're going to have Scherzer, they're going to have deGrom.

And I think we've talked about this in the past. It's reminiscent of having Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling going, you know, basically four games and you only need to win four in a game of seven. So they're going to go, they're going to go for the seven. And if they win every single one of those outings, they're not going to lose another series the rest of the way.

And that's really all that matters. Look, we don't know what deGrom is going to look like. He was throwing 100 in his minor league rehab starts. So the velocity is clearly there.

But the command is really what is separated deGrom from everything else. Because I mean, he just throws, he's just a strike thrower, much like Max Scherzer has been. And I love what Scherzer's influence has been on the rest of the pitchers. Ty Tawant Walker has had a great year and they have other good pitchers as well.

And the back end of their bullpen is way better than the back end of the Arizona Diamondbacks bullpen in 2001. All right, let's let's get to Adam Golden Studio with my man coach Pete DeRuder with the Capital Financial Advisory Group. We are talking retirement. Coach, let's say I have more than a million dollar balance in my 401k. Congratulations.

Thank you very much. How can that actually come back and bite me? Well, because, and this is a thing that we, it's a mirage. We see mirages.

I've written in the desert before. You see what's water ahead, but it's not there. Well, your financial mirage is thinking that that total balance in your 401k or your IRA is yours. We have two people that want to get ahold of it. Two uncles.

Uncle North Carolina and Uncle Sam. Both of them are going to do some damage to that balance. Depending on what kind of other income you have, you could lose 40% of your value. So if you're looking at a million dollar IRA, maybe it's only worth $600,000 to you. So how do we get around this? Well, you don't get around it because you end up in jail if you try to do that, but you can do tax planning to minimize the effect of taxation into the future. The tax train is coming, Adam. We need to make sure to minimize the effect of the derailment of our financial accounts. And for the next 10 people, we'll do it at no cost or obligation.

Put together your very own tax and retirement plan. 800-661-7383 or text ADAM to 21000 for coach Pete DeRuta. Just around the league, the Astros made two pretty important trades yesterday, getting Christian Vasquez, catcher from Boston, right before their game against the Red Sox in Houston. And then they got Treman Cini from Baltimore. What does that do for Houston? Was that a Byun Young Kim reference you were making there about the Diamondbacks?

Yes, it was. He kept the Yankees in that series. So clearly, the Vasquez move is to take some pressure off Maldonado and hopefully add a little bit more offense than what he generally produces because he's a great catcher. He generally doesn't hit a whole lot. And not to say that Vasquez is Johnny Bench, but he is relative to the production in the league.

He's probably second behind Rael Mutho. There's not a whole lot of hitting that comes from that position now that Buster Posey is out of the game. So it's a very, very pedestrian offensive position.

It is what it is. So in terms of the marketplace, they've probably found themselves a guy that's going to help make them better. Mancini is a really good player. He can really hit and they haven't had a whole lot of production from first base this year. So he's going to help them tremendously from that standpoint.

I get it. But again, one of the narratives that I'd like to get out there is most of these teams are so good and they're already in already that in a lot of ways, it doesn't really make sense for them to try to make changes because their team is already so good. And that's one of the problems that we have with the team's tanking is most of the playoffs are almost settled already, Adam. So it's kind of strange to be having that conversation this early because if we turn back last year, the Braves were one game under 500. And ended up winning the whole thing, you know, so and really give him thoughtless a lot of credit for going out and making those acquisitions that he did because it made a huge difference on their ability to end up winning.

But a lot of these teams are so good already that really it doesn't make any sense for them to mortgage the future. But I see what the Padres had to do to try to beat the Dodgers. I get it. I understand it.

I respect it. And hopefully we get some really exciting baseball from the NLS. In a way what the Padres did has nothing. I mean, they're not catching the Dodgers. There are a dozen games behind Los Angeles.

They're not going to catch them. But what they did do was try to set themselves up for a potential series with the Dodgers because ultimately baseball has become like every other professional sport, a tournament sport. The regular season is one thing and then you get to the playoffs, which is a tournament and best team in the tournament is going to win what you did over 162 games will get you some advantage playing at home when it matters.

But other than that, that's all it got you. It doesn't you don't have to win one less game than somebody else. Well, if you know, if you're the Dodgers, you're still going to have to beat the Padres or the Mets or the Braves ultimately and they couldn't do that last year, right? Well, you just want to get to the dance, right? Right. And if you can't get to the dance, you're not going to dance that if you remember the Nationals winning a couple years ago that I think they were the worst team record-wise going into it.

So that kind of just tells you just got to get to the dance and then anything can happen after that. So I'm and I like what the Padres did in terms of stacking that lineup and also getting Josh Hayter the closer from Milwaukee. If you know, he's gone through a little bit of a rough stretch here, but the best of haters should be pretty good closing out games for the Padres and we'll see how that'll do you think the Dodgers need to react last year?

They go out and they get Scherzer and Trey Turner from Washington as they started their tanking then what do the Dodgers need to react? No. Forget it.

No, I'm not I don't I don't necessarily think you're wrong about that. But that's a pretty big salvo dude. Those are two pretty big ads for the Padres. Well, but keep in mind also something to think about is the Dodgers have guys in AAA. Do you see Outman came up and I think he went two for three.

He had three RBIs hit a home run. They have May coming back too, right? Yeah, and they've got Michael Bush down in AAA. I mean, they've got so many guys down there that are really good that are probably ready that it's just not their turn. So they've got they've got more than enough depth. We just don't know about them yet, you know, but they've got plenty of guys down in AAA that they didn't necessarily have to go to market and go and get an established name.

They've got guys that they can plug and play that are just as good. It does seem like they're the Elliot Johnson is joining us here on the Adam go to it does seem like there are a lot more teams than I expected being interested in being players here. Even though as you said earlier, we pretty much know who the playoff teams are twins were were active enough. We see the Padres the Yankees got some things on the Braves did some some fringe trimming. They did release Robinson Cano, which is the second time he has been outright released this year are designated for assignment. What is the biggest name left now that one Soto's gone? That's a great question, you know, sometimes it'll be somebody that doesn't even come up like I didn't see Will Smith get traded, you know for odor is he that was an interesting little swap that the Astros made with the Braves that was kind of interesting.

They're they're trading from there. They're starting depth and maybe you know, I don't know if green keys available. He probably should be that's probably a name that has established track record where his pulse never changes no matter what setting his in right. I think we he's proven that if that's what you're looking for to shore up a staff, you know, and maybe he still moves but that's probably somebody that's on the periphery there that that would probably be better served to the Royals if they moved him. What about Wilson Contreras? I think the Rays are probably going to go get him just like the asking price going around was a little bit too high. But you know, I think the Cubs need to move him and get something in return for him, but it doesn't sound like it was it was a you know, the market was a little softer on Contreras than they thought because you know, you see what's already happened with Vasquez moving.

So I know obviously everybody was in on the Contreras thing, but probably the asking price was too high. So do you could you see the Mets going after Contreras as well? Well, I'm sure I'm sure that they are but it's just a matter of do they need him and is what you're giving up going to be important enough for this year because I again, I'm not as concerned about, you know, the offensive potential there as I am just somebody that's going to catch the ball from diagram and Scherzer.

That's really all that matter that that is just make sure make sure that these two guys are taken care of. All right final thing for Elliot Johnson and this goes back you and I talked about I think we just texted about it during the when Juan Soto turned down the 440 million dollar deal and my assertion is a player like that who who profiles is maybe the best player in the game at some point if not now that's below market value for somebody who's 23 15 years is way too long. If you really wanted to keep him that deal would have been about half that length as opposed to all of that length, but the Braves signed Austin Riley to a 200 and what 212 million dollar deal for 10 years. He's a young guy and has become an absolute stud. That's a great deal for the Braves. I'm not sure it's a great deal for Austin Riley.

Well, it's so Riley situation is unique. It's completely different than Juan Soto Juan Soto has been either one of the best or the best player in the world for the last few years here, right? I mean in the Futures game, there's kids older than him in the Futures game, right? And he's got three four years in the big leagues, right? So Soto is different Riley's been a little bit more of I would call it a volatile hitting career like he's been on fire, right? I think he's hitting like for something his last, you know, the last month of July.

I mean, he's on fire. And so I don't fault him for getting for going ahead and signing and getting it done. Because you know, if you if you don't have a trend line that is consistent over a period of time, there's there is concern that you could end up slipping down, you know, I mean even Eric Hosmer who's trade today that I played with the he was going through a rough patch and I remember him talking about how if I don't figure this out, what do I do, you know, he just got traded in this deal today. So, you know, there's there's guys that are a little bit different.

I think Riley situation completely unique, unique than sodos. Whereas like the AV for what the Nationals offered Look, the reason why they they leaked that out is to let their fan base know they tried to sign him for 440 million. They knew he wasn't gonna say yes, right? Because it's below market, you know, who says no to 440 million, somebody who's worth more, right?

And that's Juan Soto. So his AV needs to be closer to 40 million trials getting 36 shares are getting 43. So we need to start the bidding closer to 40 million because that's what he's worth.

And if they were going to do that, if they were truly serious about him, and it's not like the Nationals don't have dealings with Boris, he would need they would need to start around closer to 40 million, find a way to negotiate the years and then everybody's happy but they didn't do that. They were letting the fan base know they were probably going to move them and it was a better deal for the Nationals if they did move them to get prospects to restock because otherwise it wouldn't make sense for them be that top heavy to pay him even 30 million a year and not be able to put a supporting cast around them. So easily the right decision for the Nationals but from a PR standpoint, they have to get the fan base ready for the fact that they're going to move them. Yeah, that's all that was and they did today good for the San Diego Padres. Even though I'm not a general fan of the brown uniforms, but it's fine.

It's old school. I'd like to see them all in yellow again. That would be interesting, but it is it is cool to have another team go all in push all their chips to the table and now we'll see a lot of some fun.

I think in October. Let me ask you this. I don't know how is Manny Machado having such a quiet season this year in San Diego. It's because it's San Diego. It's like it's like if Shohei Ohtani was a Dodger as opposed to an angel.

Yeah, it'd be insane. What's going on? And by the way, next time we talk we should speculate on what Shohei Ohtani's free agent contract will look like because would love to do it out of that is going to be massive. Elliot Johnson, you're the best my friend. I'll talk to you soon. I see it.

You got it. Elliot Johnson here on the Adam Gold show. The NFL as they knew like Roger Goodell knew I was going to be talking about the Deshaun Watson situation today. He knew it and Gold's going to be talking about Sean Watson again.

Let's give him something else to talk about. Yeah, so the NFL handed down some discipline on the Miami Dolphins today. Two things were in their crosshairs most notably the allegations of former coach Brian Flores that the Dolphins were actively as an organization trying to tank and that Flores alleges that Stephen Ross offered him money.

A hundred thousand dollars additionally for each loss. I remember in his first year. I think they went six and ten and the Dolphins had a roster that should have gone maybe two and fourteen and they won six times and it made you think wow, not only I mean the Dolphins stumbled upon a legit head coach 5 and 11 and 5 and 11 and still way more wins that same performance got what's his name from Georgia Tech Josh pastner the ACC basketball coach of the year. Yeah, they weren't any good. But they won a few games and they and it was a joke.

Well, Josh pastner should be coach of the year by winning any games and he was and people fell for it. Anyway Flores won one five games that year and then in year two, they get off to a terrible start. But they did rally and win a bunch of games toward the end and he still got God ten and six. Yeah still got God in the second year. They went nine and eight last year, but still they got off to a terrible start last year. I forgot there was three years there. He went and at ten and six, I think today they made the playoffs that year. But no, they did not. Okay, ten and six. That was the expanded playoffs the first expanded playoff.

Anyway, I will figure the whole thing out here. Anyway, the he got fired last year after 98, but they won like seven of their last eight games or something like that. They did lose to Urban Meyer in London, which is a fireable offense in and of itself. But Flores on his way out accused Stephen Ross the owner of incentivizing losing which you cannot do the NFL ruled today that and now that didn't happen. I believe Brian Flores couldn't get anybody else to really corroborate that and I'm not even saying the NFL is wrong here. Just think they basically dismissed Brian Flores and also said in the statement today released by the league. That yeah, Stephen Ross was joking when he said that.

All right, that's your story. What they did ding the Dolphins on was tampering with Tom Brady all the way back when he was still with the Patriots before the 2019 season, the last one before the pandemic. They've they've found that the Dolphins as an organization had contact with Brady about his future after the Patriot everybody knew that that was his last year in New England. He was going to move on the Dolphins wanted it to be to Miami. There was some there's some mention about going after Sean Payton as well and the tampering with Brady continued while he was in Tampa winning a Super Bowl. So the NFL hit the Dolphins with the loss of a first round pick and next year's draft and a third round pick in the following year's draft but no punishment.

It appears for incentivizing losing. This is the Adam Gold show. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly the Canes Corner. Look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the aluminum company of North Carolina. Listen now find canes 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcast.
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