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Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. Alright, so in the midst of the Democratic National Convention, there is some breaking news.

And this could change considerably the race for President Trump. Yesterday, in a discussion on a podcast, it was Robert Kennedy Jr., so RFK Jr.'s running mate, Nicole Shannon, who has been a main funding source for the campaign. She was formerly married to one of the founders of Google. But was also in her own mind a tech person and kind of understands the tech world. So she's the VP candidate.

And she was having this discussion. And in the discussion said, you know what, we're very much thinking about going to the Trump campaign and actually endorsing as, I guess, a party or whoever they are, I guess RFK and her, and try to take their supporters with them. Now, their supporters don't automatically go 100% and vote for President Trump. What does it tell us?

Two things. One, it shows in their polling that they are doing better amongst likely Trump voters, or people who that would be the second choice would be Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, than they are amongst the Harris voters right now. And now there was a shift there, so maybe this has even happened in the last couple of weeks since Joe Biden has been taken off the top of the ticket. Because I think then it was probably even maybe, even though Joe Biden wasn't doing so great, he wasn't as divisive.

And I'm not sure if, I thought it was a little bit more probably even. But they're also having to weigh that versus becoming a registered third party in the future so it's not so hard to get on the ballot. And what I think we need to kind of break down here real quickly is what this could potentially mean for Donald Trump in the midst of the DNC getting an endorsement from obviously someone who's done very popular among another set of voters who feel like they don't have a home, Logan.

Yeah, we went to one of his events as press just to see it and it was an interesting group of people. I would say they definitely leaned more conservative in general. These are people that had a lot of issues with the current administration. So they were either going to be a Democrat voter who could not vote for Biden, or a Republican voter who wasn't thrilled with some of Trump's policies.

Not most of them, but just a few of them. So I think that was a pretty interesting thing. You saw a lot of mainline kind of conservatives showing up for this event and Shanahan spoke as well as RFK. And they have been interesting over the last couple days even rolling out content that would lead you to believe that there is this sort of moderate swell happening within them right now.

People are fed up with it. I do think that conversation of having RFK being the running mate, remember that happened before Vance was announced. At this point, because that was when there was that discussion of could he swing enough votes, but that was when he was going against Biden. Now you have a situation where you actually have them, and I have to say in a very refreshing way, you have Shanahan, I don't know if we have time to play it, Shanahan being this transparent, you don't hear politicians ever being this transparent about what's going on in their campaign. So I found that pretty refreshing.

Take a listen. There's two options that we're looking at, and one is staying in, forming that new party, but we run the risk of a Kamala Harris and Waltz presidency because we draw votes from Trump, or we draw somehow more votes from Trump, or we walk away right now and join forces with Donald Trump and we walk away from that and we explain to our base why we're making this decision. I think the big point there is they have to really be able to explain it to their base to make it something that's worthwhile for President Trump because if they can swing 4 or 5%, all the polls you're seeing right now, even if they're right, Donald Trump just takes a 5% lead now.

That's a huge number to swing if you can actually do it. If they actually can get all of RFK's base, because this is probably one of the most successfully run third-party candidacy in our lifetime, so 4 or 5% gets swung in either way, that could be a pretty big landslide change. That's what Ross Perot was able to do, and again, ask George H.W.

Bush and that family how they felt about that election because, again, Ross Perot, out of that race, probably not a Bill Clinton in the White House who's speaking tonight at the DNC. We'll take your calls, 1-800-684-3110. This is the question. Who would you be comfortable with, if RFK was in the administration, what job would you be comfortable with him having?

1-800. Alright, welcome back to Sekulow. So, this could be a huge shakeup in the midst of the Democratic National Convention, which, again, we're not going to spend tons of time on today. I think the focus is obviously going to be how does Walt introduce himself tonight to the American people who don't follow the news as closely, and then how does Harris introduce herself to the American people, though she's been Vice President as a Presidential candidate.

I think last night they had a lot more momentum, a lot more energy. Obviously, the Obamas are extremely popular. There were some lines from Michelle Obama. We'll get into it later, that I thought were just worth showing, because I thought it kind of shows how aggressive they were willing to go, even with a former First Lady. It was interesting to me that Michelle Obama gave a much more hard-hitting political speech than the former President Barack Obama. And then I thought about it for a second, I said, you know what, he's part of the former President's club, and usually those in that club, while you can be against each other politically, you typically aren't as pointedly. A little more respectful.

Right, it's a little different. So, a lot of talk was like, should he have gone first, and things like that. All it showed was that, you know, Michelle Obama, if this election they can't figure out, I would imagine that's who they're going to next. It was pretty clear.

The control that they've got, the way that they can just own the room by being there. But, again, what's really important is actually getting the votes. And typically during these conventions, really the news focuses almost 100% on the Democrats. You don't get a lot of, you get a little bit of Trump here and there, a little bit of Vance here and there. But with RFK stepping in, do we have the Rob Schneider sound from, this is from this morning on Fox and Friends.

So they're going out to places where Trump voters are watching, getting their morning news. I mean, that's where I got it this morning, I was dropping off my son at school, heard Rob Schneider was coming up, and I was like, what? He has a new book coming out, I know. And he headlined the RFK event that Will and I attended. He is, but he is certainly more on the conservative side of an RFK supporter. He actually did his last comedy special with Fox Nation. So he is in that sphere.

Right. So let's take a listen. This is, this morning, in his conversation with Brian Kilmeade on Fox News, Fight 19. That brings me to the guy that you're supporting, RFK.

You talk to him regularly. The rumors is he's open to maybe joining forces with Trump. Trump said he'd be looking to head into a cabinet.

What do you hear? I would, well, I mean, I support RFK and I think that he will. I mean, what happened is it's been unfair. We talk about the, you know, the democracy. The Democrats have squished, crushed democracy. They've tried to eliminate any chance for a third party.

He will, I believe though, that soon he will, he will back Trump. Wow. So, I mean, there it is right there. I mean, this is someone very close to it. Close because like you said, like he's like the hype guy. He was one of the headliners. Him and Russell Brand headlined the event.

I mean, he was probably, he probably had the most stage time. And probably they like thanked him continually as like the ringleader sort of to bring it together. So, you know, he is actually hearing from inside sources. They're not just saying this. They're not having Shanahan out there saying this casually.

It's almost as if it's a done deal. And yeah, President Trump addressed it. I think we should hear that.

Do we have that sound guys? Yeah, so President Trump yesterday, he was, of course, they do the counter campaigning as much as they can during these conventions. He was in Michigan. He had finished an event and this news had come out. So he got asked the question.

Take a listen. I like him a lot. I respect him a lot.

I probably would if something like that would happen. He's a very different kind of a guy, very smart guy. And yeah, I would be honored by that endorsement. Not only honored by that endorsement, what he was responding to is would you have him as part of your cabinet? Yeah, would you put him in your administration? And a question I had for people is, you know, where do you think he fits in the Trump administration? Where you'd be comfortable that you're still getting the conservative, you know, that you elected with Donald Trump and the policies you elected by joining forces with someone who is much more on the libertarian side of the party? It might have some views that you disagree with. You might be with 75%, let's say, but 25% very much disagree with. And so where would be the places you think they should go?

1-800-684-3110. We'd like to get your thoughts on that. I also think what's interesting amongst all of this is how, and Fox News has got this up, that this has become an Abortionpalooza event in Chicago.

And what I really like dialing it down to, and I wonder if you all are picking this up, is that it's not so much, and this is why I think our counter-campaign, Logan, is so important, and we'll explain that in a second. But that abortion is being redefined as we watch the Democrat convention into everything involving reproductive health, but for birthing a live child. So abortion is a man going in and getting a vasectomy. Abortion is a miscarriage, and the miscarriage being removed. The abortion is birth control. Abortion is IVF.

Abortion is other kinds of fertility treatments. So it's like, instead of it just being that reproductive health was kind of a broad word that did include abortion... Everyone knew that's what they meant, but now the word is abortion. It's been very interesting.

We talked about this the other day on Monday's show. It is, they have redefined that word, not only redefined it, they have embraced it. And it was a word that was kind of a scary word that people were not willing to say because no one really wants to talk about it, and I understand.

It's a sensitive topic. But instead what they've done is sort of flipped it and made it something to be proud of. To point out too, you mentioned, Logan, that RFK Jr., who was not someone who was considered to be pro-life 100%, but put out a statement... At first he said, I want no restrictions on abortion. And then... He started to clarify... Yeah, he started actually listening is what it seemed like to a lot of the pro-life advocates who said, no, you don't really understand what you're saying. And he kind of backtracked and said, you know what, I didn't know what I was saying. Now that I do, we've got to really get our souls right.

I think we have that sound. So this is, again, why I think Republicans who consider themselves pro-life may become more and more comfortable with having him somewhere in the administration. I'm not saying he has to be the head of that, but take a listen. Eighty-five percent of the abortions that take place in this country are among black women. And the institutions themselves, the Planned Parenthood facilities, are most often cited in black neighborhoods. And for a lot of these young black mothers, the difficult choice to have an abortion is driven by economic indicators, by economic strictures.

Today, childcare costs on average about 37 percent of a mother's income. And we should not be in a situation in this country where any mother is aborting a child because they believe they can't afford that baby. And we ought to be putting the same amount of resources into making sure nobody has to make that choice as we're putting into Planned Parenthood. Well, and see, this is what pro-life pregnancy centers, Logan, let me take this right to Massachusetts and our campaign, Logan, because this is what we are fighting against in Massachusetts for those pro-life pregnancy centers. And what he's talking about doing is really a mass influx of resources so that if you're going to give $500 million to Planned Parenthood, how about give $500 million to these pro-life pregnancy centers so that no woman who walks in their door has to ever feel like she's not going to have enough money for, is it childcare, diapers, food, because she needs to keep working, that she's not going to have to spend up to 37 percent of her income on childcare. And this is why in Massachusetts they said this is just state number one.

They don't want these places to even be an option, but RFK Jr. in just a matter of months, his smart guy, figured it out. Yeah, exactly. Found something that was actually in the middle where I think a lot of people land, even if you are 100 percent a pro-life advocate.

That takes out 85 percent of, like we said, if that's 85 percent of abortions, the other 15 percent of abortions, I guarantee you, are covered by the exceptions. Well, and I think this would really resonate with the America First crowd because one of the big criticisms of the Biden-Harris administration is all of the funding to Ukraine, all of this money that's going elsewhere, he's taking something and saying legitimately, how about we take these funds and use it at home to make sure that people don't have to make a decision like that based off of economics. Yes, it's a more moderate position than traditionally where conservatives come from, but I think it's one that's very America First.

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I will tell you this. Talking about RFK lit up the phone lines, and that's exactly what the campaign for RFK would like to know. And the Trump campaign. Remember, we now have heard that RFK's campaign is thinking about endorsing President Trump.

We've heard that from his vice Presidential back. Yes, and the major funder of the effort to do the ballot initiative. They're on 23 state ballots right now. They're awaiting official confirmation for another 23.

To get official status as a party, you've got to get out enough ballots so you can get to 5% of the popular vote, so you don't have to keep going through this every single election cycle. So they'd be right on the line, but it'd be difficult. It's right on the line, but difficult, especially because right now, as things get closer this election, people probably get even more and more like, you know what, I'd love to vote for him, but if I vote for him, I may be putting this person in office. So, interesting to note too, they feel like they are taking away more from Trump than they are from Harris or from Biden previously, and so that they feel like that's where they've got the more negotiating power to go to. And President Trump says he likes RFK, we played it for you, and that there would be a space for him in his administration, likely at a very high level, either cabinet or right below that, like as an administrator. Yeah, we posed that question to our phone calls, said, hey, if you want to tell us what you think in our comments, and they lit up, so let's go ahead and take some of those. Let's go to John who's calling on line one.

In Hawaii, John, you're on the air. Yes, I think he should be a Secretary of Health and Human Services. RFK Jr. has some very good ideas, as does Nicole Shanahan, about expanding healthcare coverage for children and et cetera. I think it would be a great fit as long as we just leave the abortion decisions to the states, as Trump has said, and don't try to do anything on a federal level, just leave that alone.

Yeah, right. I mean, President Trump is very clear about that, that while there's been some moves in Congress that have not been successful, that the whole point of overturning Roe vs. Wade was to return these battles to the states. Now, the Democrats don't want to do that, but even in the states, because they moved quickly and a lot of misinformation that we tried to combat, but they've got, again, hundreds of millions of dollars to fight with, they rushed to the ballots, and they kind of convinced the pro-life community to think, hey, you should rush to the ballots, too. We said, no, don't try to rush to the ballots.

We need to now. We want Roe vs. Wade. Let's spend time really educating voters, educating legislators, before we start rushing in to try to make them do ballot initiatives and things like that, which can be very confusing and use complicated language that basically you can feel like you're voting for something pro-life, and it's the most pro-abortion language that they could potentially write because it's written in legalese. So I think that there are ways to kind of minimize what Republicans would be worried about RFK's position, Jr.'s on, and I think he just came up with that, which is like put them in roles where you've already said the feds were taking you out of this role anyway. I think there's honestly sort of a compassionate nature to his campaign that a lot of Trump kind of conservatives are oddly in support of. They are not people who only say don't ever spend money or don't spend taxpayer dollars on certain things.

They actually have some heart, spend it well, and I think that's where the RFK base comes in. Right. So let's go ahead and continue on with those calls. Let's go to Gary, who's calling on Line 3. Gary, listen on SiriusXM, you're on the air.

Hi, I'm Gary from New Bedford, Massachusetts. I'm a disabled Vietnam veteran. I'm on my way to the VA right now, as a matter of fact, and I think RFK should be given the opportunity to fill the position that his dad was in, in the Department of Justice. I don't know if he's ever been a lawyer or anything like that. He is. He is an environmental attorney. So the question would be, would he want to take on running an entire department that has a division on that, but the main division would be again is on federal crime and much larger than you. I think he'd want a bigger position than just being the head of the environmental section of DOJ. And again, he might have a broader legal career than I know of. That might just be where he ended up focusing publicly, because he has a whole organization that he funds that does this work well. But he might have a broad enough legal career.

I mean, he's a smart person. And honestly, a lot of the people that get put inside those positions are so politically motivated by their beliefs that the law is just kind of utilized for political reasons anyway. So I'm not to say he couldn't run it, but that is one of the most difficult agencies to run because it is full of bureaucrats who will undermine you in almost the toughest way. I mean, I've talked to a lot of people say, how would you take on the DOJ?

It's been tough for Republicans because it's an agency run by a lot of bureaucrats who went to law school and will throw a lot of hurdles in your way if you're trying to make any reforms. Well, and you mentioned he was an environmental lawyer. He was one of the principal people at Riverkeeper, which started to help clean up the Hudson River and is now like a national organization. So that's really where his area of law has been, has been going after polluters and waterways. But I think the point that Gary brings up is interesting that you know that he is against deep state corruption. That is one of clearly something he is concerned about within the federal government. So whether it be the DOJ, I see a lot of people saying maybe he should be the CIA director.

That would be a meltdown from the deep state. It's the R.K. Department of Justice. You know, I always think about when I interned in the Department of Justice, the building is named after his late father. So it would be interesting if it were some sort of role that dealt with rooting out corruption and in the deep state within the own, the federal government. I just, I think if you asked him, I'm not sure that's the first one you'd pick because, you know, when you think about AGs doing press conferences, right?

It's usually major criminal, you know, things like we've caught these cartels, we've caught these drugs. Is that really, is that what you think of as him? Yeah. We have one more call related to RFK, then we're going to change some topics.

We'll still stick on that as well. Dan's calling online too. In Washington, Dan, you're on the air. Yeah, thank you. I'm Dan Matthews from Seattle and the state of Washington. First, I want to thank you guys. My wife and I give to you guys monthly what we can, and that's a way to just increase our giving.

It's automatic. I think everybody should really consider that. Sorry about the shapeless plug, but you need it. And I think that RFK has a lot of talents, like you've mentioned, either environmental protection agency, whatever, but I think consider Surgeon General. Ben Carson is pretty good at health and human services, but Surgeon General, he's got, RFK has a lot of comments he's made about, you know, vaccines and mandates and all that. And he would be a great guy to head that up. Yeah.

Okay. So Surgeon General, do you have to be a doctor? So typically it is a senior military medical officer or a senior uniform physician commissioned by the government to fill that role. That is why the other caller did mention HHS or even I've seen some people even say FDA.

An administrator there. FDA can be, well, this is interesting. So right now, FDA would be a step down from a cabinet member, but Donald Trump in part of his negotiations can make any position inside the government, inside the executive branch cabinet. So he could say, but for you, I'll make FDA cabinet.

What does that change? You're in the cabinet meetings. You're one of the members of the cabinet. So that raises you to the level of the weekly meeting with the President of the United States.

I mean, it's a big jump up. All right. Well, we will be back. We have a second half hour coming up. Make sure you stay tuned. If you lose us in your local station, we're broadcasting live on ACLJ.org, YouTube and on Rumble and support the work of the ACLJ during this really important time.

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Welcome back to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. We'll take more of those RFK calls too because there's talk. It has not happened yet from the vice Presidential candidate running mate Nicole Shanahan.

She was on a podcast and it's been very public. Even on Fox and Friends this morning talking about the idea of dropping their campaign and endorsing President Trump's. And would that be a move where both of them get kind of positions within an administration?

RFK obviously likely would get one that would be either near or at cabinet level. And would you be comfortable with that as maybe a typical Republican, conservative, even Christian voter at 1-800-684-3110? They see right now that their numbers that they look at internally hurt Trump more than they do Harris and that they feel like. But either way, if they can explain to their voters will and get their voters who again are like are the kind of voters that Donald Trump was so successful with in 2016. It's why I wanted 2016 is it is people who typically don't vote. It's not people who are independents who decide who to vote for and vote differently each election. It's literally people who usually don't vote at all. Well, and I think it's really interesting and it gives us a really a clear picture of the state of the Democrat Party today is that you had earlier this year Tulsi Gabbard leaving the Democrat Party writing a book about why for the love of country leave the Democrat Party.

Exactly. So someone who comes from a long history of elected Democrats and Democrats in the state of Hawaii, you have RFK Jr. who is royalty within the Democrat Party being a Kennedy a part of Camelot, so to speak. And normally when you see one of these third party tries by a former Democrat, what do you normally see happen?

They do it. They realize it's not going to go anywhere and then they end up endorsing the Democrat. It's a very unique almost unprecedented thing to see someone leave a high level of name recognition within a party run for a third party slot as an independent and then say look, we don't want the Democrat to win. That's what Shanahan was saying.

She was very clear. Their two options are do we stay in and risk? She used the term risk a Harris presidency or do we drop out and endorse Donald Trump?

I think that is a very unique moment in our history and it should speak volumes about the state of the Democrat Party today when you're having things like this happen. I think again, we want to take your calls. 1-800-684-3110. Do you want to take a call, Will? Yes, let's go ahead and go to Jill calling on Line 1 from New Jersey. Jill, you're on Sekulow.

Hi guys, love your show. I'm a monthly donor and I think that it would be great to have RFK and that would show that Trump is reaching over the aisle and able to work with other people to get things done for the good of this country. Because I may be a conservative doesn't mean I don't agree with some Democratic policies. We have to come together and I think it would just be joyous to be able to work with the other side for the good of the people.

I think Jill, that's kind of where RFK wants to get back to, which is this idea that if you're with someone, I don't think any of us look at a platform, or most, some might, but you look at a platform and you say, I'm 100%. There's nothing I'd want to change about that party's platform. But it's kind of gotten like that once you get elected, right? Because you feel like if I don't stay with my party 100%, the other party, the Democrats, they do, and the handful that don't, they go after and ostracize and kind of remove from the party. So you get kind of concerned that if you're not 100% always with your party on every issue, it will be the end of your political career. The truth is none of us are really 100% with any of these parties, even if you consider yourself like a lifelong Republican because of the way the platform's written.

And Donald Trump utilized the Republican party as the best fit for what he defines as the America first or the MAGA policies and decided this is where I should go. This is the party I should start with, but really interesting phone calls. We'll take more of them. 1-800-684-3110. Support the work of the ACLJ. We need your financial support. We're in court across the country. Donate today.

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That's 1-800-684-3110. Jeff Balabon is joining us as well. What a play before we go to Jeff directly just to kind of set this up because remember, this could have been one of the reasons why Waltz was chosen. Remember, Minnesota is a very important state for Democrats. And obviously it's kind of a funky political state. Waltz is the current governor. There have been Republicans in the past. There have been Republican senators in the past. Maybe you've had Tim Pawlenty. You've got some others.

I think you're living in Bali or other places like that, former wrestlers and special forces members. So yeah, it breeds some interesting politics. So right now there's this group of 100,000 uncommitted Minnesota voters, very pro-Palestinian, and the head of the group was interviewed yesterday on C-SPAN.

Let's take a listen. Our goals are to get a permanent immediate ceasefire and an arms embargo, and we've been doing that through getting our delegates to talk to other delegates. We know that the majority of Democrats support a permanent immediate ceasefire, so we've been hearing a lot of support. We have a delegate sign-on letter that we've been circulating and we've been getting a lot of support for, and we've been talking about an arms embargo. For the first time, we actually heard on the main stage people talking about Gaza, but those words aren't enough, and we want to see actual policy. So we've been negotiating and talking to the Harris campaign and are working to make sure that we hear about actual policy that will save Palestinian lives.

Alright, Jeff, I want to go to you right on this. First of all, if she was being honest, which she won't be, the only side in this conflict that has, in fact, even yesterday agreed to a new ceasefire is the Israelis, who again yesterday with President Herzog and our Secretary of State Tony Blinken, in the midst of the DNC, in the midst of all these protests, agreed to the terms for a new ceasefire. And it's Hamas and the Palestinians that she speaks for who will not support the ceasefire.

That's right. We have to be clear, ceasefire is only one way in any terms. In other words, there was a ceasefire on October 6th.

It was broken on October 7th. This has been a genocidal war waged by Hamas, and by the way, they are proudly calling it genocidal. They, when they went in on October 7th, proudly videotaped and uploaded to social media the most brutal behavior, the worst atrocities imaginable, most actually unimaginable. And that's who we're dealing with on the other side here. And when I say we, not just Israel, but America and the West.

And that side is now represented by delegates at the DNC, by members of the Harris campaign, by the people closest to Harris. And what they want is a ceasefire, which really just means they want Israel to stop fighting Hamas. They want Israel to lose the war. They want America to keep on sending what's called humanitarian aid, but is actually aid directly to the people who waged terrorist genocidal wars against Israel and the Jews. And what they want is everything on their terms, that Israel should stand down, they should be able to get money to rebuild, and they're calling this a ceasefire. And meanwhile, Israel, subject to intense pressure by the Democrats, are yielding every step of the way.

It's the other side who's saying no, knowing that all this is doing is further and further turning Israel into a pariah state, and further and further enraging their base here in America. And you mentioned Jordan, Minnesota. You know, Minnesota has been the center of tremendous terrorist activity, meaning that Somali immigrants have gone from there to the Middle East to actively be part of terrorist groups. And this has been going on for decades already. And so it is one of the several epicenters of true jihadi terrorism in America, and now they've gone mainstream at the DNC. Yeah, I mean, the fact is this group is saying, listen, we're having conversations and meetings with the Harris campaign, Jeff, and what we're not seeing is in the past, if a group like that would have been saying that, and maybe they got on the phone with some kid at the campaign, the Harris campaign would have said absolutely not, we're not dealing with this group whatsoever. I mean, these were Democrats four years ago, I think even, would have immediately come out and said, this is all off the table, we're not even thinking about talking to this group. And yet they're not doing that, Jeff, they are making a direct play for these hundred thousand voters. I'm not going to put it to Harris's mouth that she would actually support an embargo, but I think she's giving, her campaign is at least okay giving an ear to the group that is because they are trying to get their vote. They want their votes.

If I was running for, I don't want these people's votes. I believe it's just a vote from a terrorist supporting group that's kind of disgusting to want to actually do things to get their votes. But the Harris campaign doing something that we've never seen either party do before, which is giving an ear to these extremists. Yeah, it's so, this is jolted so extremely, we're not talking about just anti-Semites. We're not just talking about people who hate Jews. We're not just talking about people who hate America.

We're talking about active support. This is active, I would argue, material support for ongoing terrorism, for ongoing terrorism that is the stated goal of wiping out every Jew on earth. And that's what these people represent and they are completely, I mean, they suffuse the DNC now. And as you've pointed out before on the show, you know, the person who said that Kamala Harris isn't supporting an embargo, that's not a Harris spokesperson. That's not a campaign spokesperson. That's a Biden administration spokesperson. We have not heard yet from anybody as far as I know representing Kamala Harris, let alone from Kamala Harris herself, that she's against an arms embargo. No, right.

I don't think, I think that's what you said. She's got to be very careful not necessarily to endorse one, not necessarily to say she's against one. Get as much as she can from this group because they believe a group like this, if they truly represent, there's 100,000 of them in Minnesota, Jeff, and about, you've been in the political world too, 100,000 in Michigan. You add that up and it makes it very difficult for Republicans to take the White House. Those are two very important places. On the other hand, you know, again, most of America is on the other side of this conflict. It's just, it is, you know, these races, as you know, always become these narrow specific targeted places, become more important than the overall vote or the overall image. However, the majority of America is still the other way and if they speak out and if they vote and if they really rise up against this, this is an amazing subversion of the Democratic Party by what's going on.

Again, they are not just accepting as allies on the fringes, they are mainstreaming the policies of actual terrorists. You want to go to a call? Yeah, I think let's go and take a call that's maybe related to this as well.

Let's go to Andrew's calling on Pennsylvania on Line 5, watch it on Facebook. Ann, you're on the air. Hello? Yep, go ahead, you're on the air, Ann. Hi, can you hear me? You're breaking up a little bit, can you hear me? We can hear you clearly, go ahead. Okay, perfect. I wasn't sure if I was on the air.

Thank you so much for taking my phone call. You know, guys, I'm so tired of this hatred towards the Jews. I'm so sick and tired of it.

Now they're burning the American flag. And of course, at the DNC convention, and they're not saying anything, you guys are absolutely right, it's completely appalling. I also wanted to comment and maybe have a question somewhere in here. So when Kamala speaks, obviously she's going to be speaking from the teleprompter, she's going to be so articulate, right? You know, and they're going to give her all the talking points to say, I want to see our side, like the ACLJ, your great network does. I want to see everything that she says, every potential lie that will be uttered out of her mouth, every form of projection and slander. I want our side, I want our side to really eat that up, to combat it, to speak about it. And I thank you guys at the ACLJ, because I can count literally on one hand who is doing that. And that, for me, is sad.

That is something we will do. You know, the speeches that we believe, and I think that that really starts tonight with Walts and tomorrow. She's talking about the protesters, and obviously that's happening in an extreme sense, and I think Jeff, as commentary on that as well, when you see the big concern, even for the Democrats, is the protesters that are against Israel and against the Jewish people. Yeah, listen, this is a great call, because I think that Anna represents not just the people who support ACLJ specifically, which is very intense, thank God, people who are people of faith and people who care about this country and our freedoms, and do care about what's happening to Israel and the Jews, but you know, even the majority of America who may not be as engaged, if they see, to her point, if they see how bad this is, that they are burning American flags, that they are chanting death to America, it's not just death to Israel, they have to recognize that this party has mainstreamed it. It's always existed on the fringe. It exists on the fringe of every political party, Republican, Democrat, everything else, but they've mainstreamed it. And now it's very, very close to the White House, the Oval Office itself. That's what's so frightening. Yeah, and again, Jeff, I appreciate you joining us on the air, and again, Jeff oversees our office in Israel, and I just want to point out to people, too, that when you've got this kind of move inside, nationally happening, right outside the convention, and again, they're not totally condemning what those protesters are standing for.

They might condemn some of it, they might condemn parts of it, you know, burning the American flag, but they'll say that they understand, you know, their grievances, and they do understand why they're upset. And now you've got the, I want to know from the Harris campaign, truthfully, like, who has met with this group? How high up have they gotten into the campaign? You know, is it some kid, or is this like real advisors to you? Is that why you chose Walt? Is that why you chose a Minnesotan who said that when he's having a down day, you know what brings a smile to his face? Ilhan Omar being a Congresswoman. The most anti-Semite member of the U.S. House of Representatives being a Congresswoman is what makes her VP choice smile when he's depressed.

Logan, I mean, this is, you can't really say it any more specifically than that. That's pretty direct. Go to ACLJ.org right now to support the work, but also all your phone calls coming up in the next segment stay on hold. All right, welcome back to SECIO. We're going to take your calls too. We've got a lot of calls on RFK. We do have calls on the DNC, and I'm not going to totally ignore the fact that we had the Obamas last night. Interesting because I think that if Democrats aren't successful in this election cycle, you probably have not seen the last of the Obamas when you see how popular they are amongst the party, even though they've been pretty quiet until Joe Biden was out and Harris was in. A little back story too, Harris endorsed Obama over Hillary Clinton back in the day. So they, even when she was, I mean, she was 20 years behind him in like where she was politically, you know, at the level, but something that I'm sure they don't forget is that when Hillary Clinton was getting most of the endorsements, she was willing to take a risk in the Democrat party and support Barack Obama.

So probably there's more relationship there than has probably even been discussed a lot publicly, and it's why you've seen them, I think, return to politics in such a direct way. And it actually wasn't Barack Obama. He kind of gave the speech I would have imagined he was going to give, so I'm not going to spend a lot of time there.

It was Michelle Obama, a former first lady, who actually threw the biggest political hits, some which I think are dangerous because of what we've already seen happen to President Trump on this campaign. Take a listen. This is kind of the section I'm talking about.

This is really all we're going to get into from that because I think it was the most memorable part. See, his limited, narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard-working, highly educated, successful people who happen to be black. Wait. I want to know.

I want to know. Who's going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs? It's his same old con. His same old con. Doubling down on ugly, misogynistic, racist lives.

Okay. I mean, that was kind of language. Then again, I think it makes him fun with the black jobs thing, but that's clearly not what he meant about that. That's not what he's talking about. He's talking about jobs being taken from illegal immigrants, from people in this economy who are hurting the most economically.

If you look at that economically, that data, guess who it is? African Americans. But they don't care about that in the Democrat party.

Even though they're supposed to be for the African Americans, right? They're making fun of that as a statement, even though it's a true statement about who is getting hurt the most inside this current economic environment. Second, when you call people racist and things like that, more shooters come out to rallies, Logan. And they think that they are doing something good for the country. If you take those words and he's that person, then getting rid of that kind of person is like a positive for the United States of America. Yeah, it's almost a duty for some people to feel like it. Especially if you're crazy.

Yeah, that's what I meant. There's comments coming in. Let's get as many as we can. Barb's calling on Line 6. She's been on hold for a while and you're an ACLJ champion. I'm sorry about that. You're on the air.

Hi, guys. I just wanted to say that I tried watching the DNC last night. I did. I tried.

Yeah. Because you guys said I should listen, so I tried. Jordan said you should listen, but I didn't watch it. Oh, but after hearing it? I was in and out. My eyes were opening and closing after Michelle Obama.

She kept me up because she started saying the racist stuff. I said, okay, where's this going? Barack Obama, on the other hand, he just kind of came out and said, I've heard this voice before.

But go ahead, Barb. After hearing some of the things that Obama said, I just couldn't stomach it anymore. During Obama's say how democratic it was that Joe Biden stepped aside for the good of democracy. I'm like, he didn't step aside.

He was pushed out. I'm like, I can't and I won't watch it anymore. I just can't stomach it. I can't handle it.

Listen, I totally get it. The first two nights of this were first on the first night was just about I have kids to go to school. It's like 730, you know, drop offs at 730. So just watching Joe Biden talk at 1 a.m. is not really like if I'm going to go to 1 a.m., it's not for Joe Biden ever. And then two is unless I just can't sleep that night, maybe randomly. But two, even last night, it was got got late again.

I mean, they were they did a little better, but not that much. They were still over 30 minutes behind schedule just from the get go. I went to an event, came back the night that I pre-scheduled that Trump spoke and it was still happening after a four hour musical that I went to. So these events do go long. Yes. Yes. No, I will say that the Republican National Convention is a little bit more time until the main speakers, until Trump could take as long as he wants. But the others, let's just say they start playing the music. They had an interesting I think the most interesting part was how they were doing the delegates, but took forever.

It was cool sounding, but the volume was really like the guy doing it obviously was not in sync with the DJ. Yes, it was a mess. Again, tonight's important. Most of us are not being governed by Tim Walz. So let's see what he has to say tonight. Let's go ahead and take some more phone calls. Terry's calling also an ACLJ champion.

You're on the air, Terry. Yes, I was going to say RSK I think would be good in housing and urban development or health and human services. And also I appreciate the abortion deception you're uncovering and would love help with that in Missouri since it's on the ballot in November. Well listen, this is again, I'll have our team look at what is going on in Missouri who proposed the language as well. It's very important to know which side proposed it and in some of these states what we do is we've gone and filed and said no, this language is so unclear that voters will not understand what they're voting on. And it's not to demean the voters, but if you didn't go to law school and specialize in abortion law or in this kind of specific kind of law that we handle, you'd think you'd be voting for abortion bans and you'd be voting for abortion with no restrictions, literally.

You could read something and think you were voting for a full ban on abortion and it's the exact opposite because of words thrown in that you won't think are important, words like and or or health that can be thrown in. So very important, Terri. We will check into that. I'll have our team note that.

We have our team listening to the broadcast. Note that. Look up Missouri. Look up the ballot initiative.

Let's take a look at the language, see if it's clear and see what we should be encouraging people to vote, which is a yes or no to decide who put the ballot measure forward. Do we have time? Let's go to Amy who's calling in Pennsylvania on Line 3. I'm sorry, Whitney and Jeanette, we're not going to be able to get to you today. Amy, you're on the air. Hi, guys. First of all, I appreciate everything that you do at the ACLJ.

I've been a supporter for a couple of years now since I found you. But my take is on the RFK issue. I'm a conservative Republican and I can tell you, like, I would wholeheartedly welcome that man in some areas like health and human services, where he has a lot of expertise when it comes to vaccinations and children's health. I do totally disagree with him on the issue of abortion, but that doesn't mean that this man doesn't have a place potentially. He's about 85 percent aware a lot of us are on abortion.

He moved a lot. He moved, Amy, from saying no restrictions on abortion to there should never be an abortion because of financial. Well, if you take that out, that's most abortions in Planned Parenthood. Most abortion in Planned Parenthood are not because of medical reasons. They're because of just economic or I don't feel like having it.

I don't want this burden. I think this is really interesting. We had a lot of great calls, a lot of support for RFK really to get behind. I mean, more than I was expecting. I think that's something that the Trump campaign clearly is saying. And Trump campaign, you should probably welcome it in as quickly as possible and offer the cabinet position that he likes.

He wants. And what's interesting is people are cool with him in the health world. They're cool with him in the legal world. They're cool with him even if he hurts them by the EPA. I'm not sure West Virginia voters would love him in the EPA yet, but I don't know. I've got his position on clean coal. I mean, maybe we just have to dig a little deeper.

Who knows? All right. Well, that's going to do it for today's show. Support the work of the ACLJ.

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