MAJOR UPDATE: Trump Fights Back with Lawsuit

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That's 1-800-684-3110. As people start to tune in, people start to watch. We want to bring up sort of the breaking news that came out, which is, again, yes, there's another Trump lawsuit, but maybe not in the way you're thinking. Because maybe the shoe is on the other foot, if you will, Will.

That's right. So this morning, or over the weekend, the President's attorneys informed the Department of Justice of his intent to sue for $100 million in damages over the execution of the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago back in 2022. So this is an administrative tort claim against the DOJ.

It argues that Attorney General Garland and Director Wray applied, quote, inconsistent standards and were guilty of, quote, clear dereliction of constitutional principles. This is the case that Judge Cannon dismissed just weeks ago on the grounds that the special counsel was not constitutionally appropriate in that role and was not appointed under the Constitution. And so what we have now is the President going on the offensive seeking $100 million in damages. Now, the DOJ has 180 days from receipt of the intent to sue to respond to the notice and try to come to a resolution.

If not, then the suit can move forward in federal court. So we will see what happens. This is a move at a time where the President is looking to go on the offensive and push back against the deep state. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a pretty interesting time as we are, you know, really at the final days of this campaign, we do have the concept of a debate on the table now. Three debates, potentially one debate, one agreed upon. But will they show up the other? There's a whole lot of uncertainty there. Do you think the debates will happen?

I'm curious your thoughts. 1-800. Do you think they should happen? Not only will they happen to maybe two questions I have for you. Will they happen and should they happen?

Give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. You can put that in the comments as well. I'd love to hear from you, but put it in the comments.

What do you think? Do you think there will be a debate? And do you think that will happen on Fox News? Where do you think it will happen? Just give me your commentary there in the chat.

And again, phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. We're also going to talk about a little bit later some of the Harris campaigns. I don't know. It seems to be that they are parroting a bit of the Trump talking points just to be like, hey, if you haven't heard what Trump is saying, by the way, we're just going to repeat some of those as well. Claim them as our own.

Steal off of, you know, your friends' homework. That's going on right now. It's going to be a very interesting time. We're going to discuss that as well.

I'm sure some of you have heard about that again at 1-800-684-3110. I did want to take a minute because we are just about halfway through. We're on August 12th of this year, and I want to take a minute to tell you about the ACLJ's life and liberty drive for August. Look, it has been a remarkable time. We knew July was going to be tough.

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Really appreciate it. Well, let's talk about this. Let's restate this. People see Trump fights back with lawsuit. Hey, Trump is fighting with a lawsuit. That's right, because former President Trump is set to sue the Justice Department for 100 million big ones and damages. This was over the Mar-a-Lago property raid.

Give a little background again on that. That's right. So this is a notice has been served to the Department of Justice in making a claim under the Federal Tort Claims Act. So this is the mechanism for which the private individual can sue the government if they have been wronged in some way by a federal employee that was acting on behalf of the government. So what we're seeing here is that this suit is now there's 180 days that the federal government, the Department of Justice, can respond or try to settle this before going to court.

After that, if it is not resolved, then it will go into federal court in the Southern District of Florida. This is the Mar-a-Lago raid case, so the Jack Smith case that was related to the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. Now, this raid did take place before Jack Smith was appointed. So the FBI first raided, and then after the raid is when Merrick Garland appointed Jack Smith as special counsel. That case has been thrown out of court by Judge Cannon because she ruled that he was unconstitutionally appointed. It wasn't an appropriate appointment as an officer of the United States would normally need to go through some sort of confirmation process, and he was not.

It also violated the Appropriations Act because of the appropriations amendment in the Constitution because of the way that they even bragged about having an unlimited budget with unlimited scope to go after the President. So what President Trump is trying to do here is actually fight back. In one of these cases, the first opportunity to fight back, not just be the defendant and fight it all the way to the Supreme Court by trying to go on the offensive.

Now, it's a long shot. These aren't claims that are typically just dished out. It's not an easy process, especially since the case, although it's been thrown out, the raid happened before Jack Smith was appointed. So it wasn't necessarily at the direction of Jack Smith.

It was the attorney general and the FBI director. Don't tell people that. They want to hear that it's Jack Smith directed. But I understand. I understand. But I am laying out the facts.

It is not necessarily just an easy road. But I do like to see that when you've seen so much overstep, so much corruption, that we're now seeing someone fight back. Yeah, I think it's a big deal.

I think it's a cool moment. There's also another piece that's going on. You guys talked about this Friday when I was out, which is that one of the cases for Trump has been delayed significantly. We were pushing for it. It was potentially going to happen. It looks like it was approved.

That's right. So we talked about on Friday with Jordan the fact that Jack Smith had asked for another three-week extension to a status hearing, status conference that they were supposed to be having this week in the Chutkin case. This is the January 6th case.

Judge Chutkin in D.C. is the presiding judge over this. You know when you say those words, that month and that day, YouTube actually puts a little, here's the truth about it information. Oh, interesting.

Am I telling the truth or not? Who's to say? Well, it just says, if you don't know what this is, here's a little fun fact. It's like the old COVID rules. So in this one, Jack Smith had asked for a three-week delay saying that he needed more time to parse out how this case will go forward in light of the immunity decision by the U.S. Supreme Court as well as the decision by the Supreme Court in the Fisher case. That was the case against another January 6th defendant that it was the obstruction of an official act were the charges that the Supreme Court said were overbroad and so that defendant was able to get those removed and those were also two charges that President Trump had been charged with. So within all of these two things, these two Supreme Court decisions that happened July 1st and June 28th of this year, that now he's saying I still need more time.

It's been over a month. That status hearing would have been plenty of time, you would think, for him to be able to get his ducks in a row to figure out which way to go. He needs more time and the judge agreed on Friday to push this back. So the new hearing date will be September 5th is when their status hearing will be, which was supposed to be August 16th. So just a couple weeks, three weeks from now, that will be happening. So it got delayed, but not extensively, just enough.

That's right. But the big question is, as Jack Smith looks through all this and in light of what the Supreme Court did, will there even be a case at all to move forward with? How narrow will his scope now become?

And will the judge have to do any steps like an evidentiary hearing so she can parse out which things they intend to bring, which may run afoul of the Supreme Court's opinion in the immunity case? I posted a question earlier in the broadcast, which was, do you think the debates will happen? Do you think that, because we saw over the weekend that Trump and Harris kind of went back and forth about debates. Now it looks very clearly that the vice Presidential debates will likely happen. That seems to be pretty much set in stone.

And then the others are being negotiated right now. I want to hear from you, your thoughts on that. And of course, any of the conversation we've had today, you can call it at 1-800-684-3110. I do like to hear from you, but if you can't right now and you're watching on YouTube or watching on Rebel, just comment. Tell me what you think. Do you think you can just put, yeah, Logan, I think the debate will happen. No, I don't. You don't have to go into detail.

No pressure. Let's go ahead and take a phone call, though. Let's go to Darrell, who's calling in Texas on line one.

Darrell, you're on the air. Yes, I think the debates will happen. The debates are going to be awesome, but I think the VP debate is going to be drawing way more attention because I think Kamala is going to crash and burn. And I think that's why they sent her this VP to be able to fight fire with fire because Vance has fire and Kamala doesn't. So the only way to keep this interesting is to have someone like Walt go up against someone like Vance because otherwise it'd be child's play. Yeah, I think, Darrell, that's an interesting point, which is I do think there is sort of a more untraditional or maybe more traditional rivalry between Vance and Walt because there is that sort of, they both have the military background. They've now kind of mixed it up a little bit. This does feel more like the traditional debate going into it where what we have with Harris is this weird situation where obviously Biden lost so bad last time that he had to withdraw. Now she's put in this weird position. He's put in a weird position because they're not really used to, they're not planning on, we're planning on working together this way and having these debates.

But when you look at it this way, it's kind of fun. The fact that you could have a vice-Presidential debate that maybe could honestly also show a future of the Republican party, maybe not the Democrats. I don't know if Walz has the long-term plans, but he's not as old as you think. He very well could be running for President if they were to win and go two terms.

He'd only be in his late 60s. There's a chance that you could see a future of either of these parties through both of these candidates. That's right. So what we do know is that there will be, at least right now on September 10th, a debate on ABC. President Trump, when he did his press conference last week, he said that he had pitched and actually agreed to do it with the networks if Harris would sign on as well. Three debates, one on Fox News, one on ABC, and one on NBC, all in the month of September. But it does appear that the ABC debate on September 10th is the one that the Harris campaign has agreed to. Yeah, but I don't know. Did the Trump campaign agree to do that one if she did not do the others?

So that's where it's muddy. We're not quite sure, but as of right now, they were still touting, the media at least was touting this would be the debate. But I know that President Trump is pushing for more. The other angle of it is that we don't know a timing of a potential VP debate. Oh, I thought that was some reason. I thought there was more.

But what we are looking for is whether or not this will happen. And like you said, J.D. Vance made the rounds on the Sunday shows this weekend. He was asked directly about the contrast between he and Governor Walz that he brought up the military issues. And also he did a really good job, especially on CNN with Dana Bash, of saying, listen, you keep going to like, here's a comment you said three years ago.

Here's this. You know, what we need to be talking about is the issues. He did the job that I feel like many people were hoping he would do of saying, like, no, no, no, let's not just talk about personality and politics. Let's talk about the real policies that we would bring forward. And that's something that the Harris campaign is getting criticized for often is that they aren't really talking about policies, except for all of a sudden one that we'll get to in the next segment. The next segment we were talking about, maybe some policies that maybe have been cherry picked off of the Trump campaign, ones that were very specific. And when you start seeing them, it'll start, you know, it'll start making your blood boil a bit.

It really does. Because the problem is, is that if you are not a conservative, you're probably not following President Trump. You know what he's saying his campaign promises, if you will. You're at this point, you don't care. You don't like him. You're not going to vote for him. But maybe you're following Harris and you realize, oh, she's got some really good ideas.

But those ideas may have just been lifted straight from the most popular moments of a Trump campaign. We're going to talk about that in the next segment. You know what I'm talking about. Likely if you're watching here, if not, stay tuned. 1-800-684-3110 to get on the air today. We've got a couple lines open right now.

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I don't know if you saw this over the weekend or even just yesterday. The Harris campaign has started to finally start talking about policies. You know, I've kind of said Trump needs to run on here the failed policies of the Harris administration, here are my successful ones. Don't go too low because you're going to just come off rude and obnoxious.

You're not going to come off with a lot of information, which right now there is a lot of information you can dive in on. But what's very interesting, and I don't know if you knew about this, it was many months ago now, there was a movement among conservatives and among the Trump campaign specifically about the elimination of taxation on tips. So obviously this is for people in the service industry and people that rely on tips saying we're going to remove the tax on tips. So much so that you had a movement of saying, hey, when you tip right in this, you know, in a blank, which you could have not a kid rocked in it.

A few other people like write something like vote for Trump because this won't be taxed. Right. Very popular moment. People were very excited about this. Then that moment kind of passed. It was still something they're running on.

It's one of their platforms, but it's not the hot moment right now. And then Harris campaign just started talking about some of their big plans. What are some of their campaign promises? And I believe we have the bite.

Take a listen. And it is my promise to everyone here. When I am President, we will continue our fight for working families of America. Including to raise the minimum wage and eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.

The crowd goes crazy. Why? Because this may be the first time they've heard about this. But if you were paying attention at all, you know that this is something that the Trump campaign has been running on for months. They've been running on it for months. You know that this campaign, the Harris campaign, the Biden administration, they're the ones that just a few years ago were trying to take your money from small transactions on PayPal or small transactions you had online.

This is not the no taxation group. So don't let them trick you into thinking they have some brilliant new ideas that are really just rehashes of Trump policies. We also saw an extreme case of this now with the talks of the border.

That's right. And so what we've seen now is the campaign of Harris and Walz getting out there, some of their very first policy mentions. Because as of yet, we haven't really seen them roll out any policy discussion.

And that's been some of the criticism is that they're bringing joy back, but they're not talking about what they're going to do. And so now we see that Vice President Harris is starting to mention things like tax on tips, taking that to a rally. And as you mentioned, if you haven't been following politics up into this moment, which the majority of the country is not really after Labor Day is when everyone tunes in. But people are starting to because the conventions are here. But this was a big thing that President Trump touted at the convention at the RNC. He's been doing it for months. And the fact that she would just out there say, here's what I'm going to do. Here's my promise. Yeah.

It's like campaign policy plagiarism. But it sounds nice. And you'd think that maybe they would think this isn't the best way to go. Yeah. Let's take a call about this. Michael's calling in Florida, listening on the radio.

Michael, you're on the air. Absolutely. Gentlemen.

Yeah. I just wanted to call it out for exactly what it is. It's plagiarism because she never gave any credit for whoever said it and was standing on it to begin with. Secondly, if I were Trump, I would merely go to all of the video and audio clip from Kamala who has said things like, well, I don't necessarily support an open border, but I support having free medical, free driver's license, free whatever to these people. And then I would go, all right, let's go to the scoreboard and find out exactly where Trump was, the things that he did for us and the things that Kamala has or has not been doing for us.

I've said this, Michael. I think there's so much to run on in terms of just the policies, just the stuff they've said done that's gone wrong. So many of the campaign promises are things that she could be doing now as vice President and what feels like acting President. But of course, if you elect me day one, I'm going to lower your gas prices. I'm going to lower the cost of food. You're the vice President of the United States.

Why don't you get in there and do that now if that's something you actually can do or your policies will actually allow you to do? Have a little sway here. You had a big enough sway to get the President of the United States to decide not to run.

That you're going to spend all your time on. You're going to send Nancy Pelosi out there. You're going to send all of your heavy hitters out there to go, he shouldn't be running. We can't have him and eventually push a guy who's the current President of the United States to have to withdraw. What we can't do is go into that office and go, we need to figure out a way to get gas prices down.

We need to go when you have a family of four and you're taking them to eat at, you know, Sonic, that it's not costing $90. But that's the world we're living in right now. And you're right. When you bring up the border, the border is such an important topic.

And here, I mean, look, I don't like to play because I feel like it's weird just playing like a campaign ad for the Harris administrative campaign. But you need to look at this. This is what they started running about the border. Kamala Harris has spent decades fighting violent crime as a border state prosecutor. She took on drug cartels and jailed gang members for smuggling weapons and drugs across the border. As vice President, she backed the toughest border control bill in decades. And as President, she will hire thousands more border agents and crack down on fentanyl and human trafficking.

Fixing the border is tough. So is Kamala Harris. I'm Kamala Harris and I approve. That's enough. We can pull from that again. I didn't want to play that as like an ad. I feel like we did. Maybe next time we need to like put it in a little box and go like, this is not it.

We're not running an ad because it felt like we just ran an ad limit. But they're running on being tough on the border, on ending the fentanyl crisis, on stopping human trafficking, which I guess is real now, by the way. I guess you could talk about human trafficking is really happening because, you know, a year ago we were told if you talked about human trafficking online, you were some, you know, QAnon conspiracy theorist. But I guess now it's OK. We can talk about that. It's happening.

You can talk about the opioid crisis, which all of us have felt in our own families. But of course, they've not done anything about it. And she's running, you know, tough on crime. I mean, it sounds like an ad from the 80s and it feels like you're taking conservative talking points, slapping on a couple of different candidates and saying it's yours now because you know why? Sadly, people are going to fall for it.

Sadly, I talked to people this morning who were like, I didn't know about Trump and the tax and the tips thing. Yeah, because you're not paying attention. You've got to pay attention to what's happening if you actually care. It is tough. It is tough to follow. It's tough to fill your brain with it. I don't like it either. But when it comes down to whether you are actually an undecided voter, you've got to be making these calls.

And I think it's just wild. Well, these are some of the takeaways from that ad that I have. One, they finally admitted that the border is broken because at the end of it, it says fixing the border is tough, but Kamala Harris is also tough. So they're admitting finally that the border is broken. It only took them four years. But they'd also said the accomplishments had her prosecutor, her vice President and what she'll do as President.

It's kind of the three narratives here. As vice President, the only thing she's done, even though she had all that responsibility with the Northern Triangle and trying to figure that out, we sent billions of dollars there to try to create jobs so that migration wouldn't be happening. Their only accomplishment as vice President, she supported the toughest border control bill in decades, a bill that did not pass. Yeah, it failed.

A failed bill is what you're running on right now. They're not going to say that in the ad. They don't want you to know that. Look, we're headed into the second half hour of the broadcast. If you want to be on the air, great time to call 1-800-684-3110.

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Welcome back to Sekulow. We're going to talk about ACLJ victories coming up in the next segment, which is, you know, all cases are incredibly important. The big ones, the small ones, they're all big ones, because even if they just you think they affect one person, they don't. They affect whole communities of people. Sometimes those cases go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

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That's what happened to me. I got put in a very interesting place to see some of the rhetoric that's going on, some of the work that's going on to hurt some of our friends and partners. We're going to talk about that coming up a little bit later this week. But for now, we are going to talk. I know a lot of you are just joining us right now.

I can watch. What's awesome is, you know, we used to just be on radio, which look, we love our radio affiliates. Thousand of you.

We love you. What's interesting is now that we have YouTube and Rumble and Facebook and X, we're able to real time see when people come on comments that are being made. I know a lot of people are asking what this topic is because we said there's a major update that Trump's fighting back with a lawsuit.

If you join us at the beginning of the show, you heard about it. But Will, let's give them, we've got a couple of minutes in this segment. Let's give a little bit of a brief overview of what's happening. Trump's suing the Department of Justice for $100 million.

That's right. So attorneys for the President have informed the Department of Justice of his intent to sue for $100 million in punitive damages over the execution of the search warrant at his Mar-a-Lago estate in 2022. So this is an administrative tort claim against the DOJ. It argues that the attorney general and FBI director applied inconsistent standards and were guilty of a clear dereliction of constitutional principles when they approved the search warrant. And they are now, the DOJ has 180 days to respond to try and settle this before going forward.

If they are unable to reach some sort of agreement, then it will go to federal court in the Southern District of Florida where we will see a lawsuit against the Department of Justice. Yeah, so that's the update there. I hope that gives you a brief understanding of what's going on if you're brand new to this broadcast right now. Also, we just lost a couple of calls. So we have some phone lines open. Give me a call. 1-800-684-3110. Here's the fun part about this. The next segment, we're going to, maybe we'll take some calls at 1-800-684-3110.

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Let us know what you think or any of these questions or comments you may have and related to. How about Kamala Harris's campaign? Just ripping off the Trump campaign.

Just flat out plagiarizing. Give us a call about that. 1-800-684-3110. We got a few lines open.

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So if you give $20, it becomes $40, so on and so on. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. I want to draw your attention a bit to the work of the ACLJ. You know, we do a lot of great legal work around the country and around the world, even with our offices in Europe and our offices all around the country, ACLJ Jerusalem as well. But I wanted to draw attention to a case that happened a little bit earlier this year. It was a city in California, and a man had decided to have pretty much a home Bible study, right, Will?

That's right. So this client, who was a resident of the city of Manhattan Beach in early 2024, so this year, began gathering in his home with fellow Christians. They would watch church on TV, so kind of a home fellowship, and then they would fellowship after that and talk about the sermon. A lot of people do, sort of, like a Bible study. Kind of a home church slash Bible study, get together, watch a sermon on TV, discuss it, talk about it.

Seems no problem. A lot of people have done it. I've done it.

I'm sure a lot of you have. A lot of us did that during the COVID years. And then it started taking a turn in April of 2024. This year, April, not that long ago. Okay, what, four months ago?

And what happened? Well, they, the city, then told him that he couldn't have this, that this would be an unzoned, a zoning issue where you're having a religious assembly in your home, but the city did confirm that, you know, you can have 100 people over to watch The Lord of the Rings every week. That's fine. Yeah.

But there's no zoning violation there, but if it's a church facility or a church gathering or a religious gathering, you can't do that. And by the way, it's quoted, The Lord of the Rings. Right. And they're like, that's so aggressively long.

Like, why don't you pick something short? Something that you're like, well, you can have someone over for 90 minutes, but not, I mean, collectively, that's it. That's it.

If you're doing the extended conditions, that's a 12 hour commitment. But so this case took another turn because then he tried to also have a gathering in renting a city facility. Right. As many cities have, there are public spaces, whether it be a park or just a gathering place, community center.

And so tries to do that. But within the purpose of their reservation policy, it's the facility... Like to reserve a room. A space. Right. Facility reservation policy governs the use of public facilities such as community center rooms, picnic shelters, swimming pools, et cetera. It says facilities will not be used for religious worship or other religious purposes.

So there are two tracks here that are unconstitutional and both a violation of this client's first amendment right. That's right. And we stepped in. The ACLJ stepped in and reached out directly to the city to inform them they can't do that. You can't regulate whether it's a religious gathering, whether that is... In any way, whether that was using their space or not.

That's right. And so we got a double win here is that the city agreed to issue a letter to clarify the city's position that typically sized home gatherings, whether for a Bible study, Seder or other religious purposes or for non-religious purposes are permitted in residential single family zone. So one, the zoning issue cleared up, can't discriminate on what kind of gathering you're having at your home as long as it falls within noise ordinances and things of that nature.

Like there are things that govern everyone, but you just can't discriminate against religion. But the other win here, and this one we just got because they had told us they were going to change their language in their reservation policy. But we needed to wait. We need to wait to see it through and the city council approved the new language, which struck from the facility reservation policy that they will not be used for religious worship or other religious purposes. Struck out.

That's right. The ban on religious services. These are kind of the cases here, guys, that this could be, you think this is small, what does it matter? Because this is one, this is a lot of this is settled law that the ACLJ has already fought for 40 years ago, 35 years ago, you have the Lamb's Chapel case, you have the Supreme Court cases that have, this has already happened, but a lot of people aren't informed of their own laws. They think they hear the separation of church and state and one, they don't even realize what it is or what it means or that it's not really even a, it's a theory. It's not really anything on the books here, but they hear that and they go, oh, we can't have religious.

We got to make sure we put that in there. No religious speech. But now the ACLJ at no cost, because by the way, I assure you that this client did not have the probably the want nor the need or their financial needs to hire a law firm to go take this to court, to do all the process, to get there, or even just file these letters and the communications. But the ACLJ steps in at no cost.

We don't charge a dollar to our clients. And someday that might be you. So I encourage you right now, this is a win for everybody. It's a win for all religions, all faiths, specifically for Christians, for sure, in the state of California, where you know, you're being a bit more under attack than ever. None of this happens without the support of the ACLJ members. And maybe you are somebody who needs that legal help. Those legal services is within our scope, go to ACLJ.org slash help. You fill out a very simple form.

You're not sent off to, you know, a telemarketing group where you're going to talk to 40 different. No, you're going to be assigned to someone in our legal team and a lawyer. And then we're going to determine whether your case is something we can take or not. But we're going to do it.

And if we decide to take it, guess what? No cost to you. But that's because of individual donors and ACLJ champions. Those are people that can support the work of the ACLJ financially, whether it's on a ongoing monthly basis, an ACLJ champion, that's what we call recurring donors.

And by the way, there's no baseline for that. I think its minimum is $5 just because you have to do that for the credit card transaction fees. So I think it's like five bucks and you can choose. If you want to be a champion at five bucks, God bless you. If you want to be a champion at a thousand dollars, we'll do it. And right now, all those donations are matched.

And again, I don't want to sound like I'm pitching for money here right now. Understand that this work that our client here, Manhattan Beach, California does not happen without your help. Does not happen without the thousands of people that watch online each and every day.

The millions of people that watch online, listen on radio throughout the week, the 420,000 of you that subscribe on YouTube alone. None of that happens without your support. So I encourage you, we are in that middle of our life and liberty drive, which I know we had in July. We extended it through August because all donations are matching.

Look, it's a rough time financially. We understand that. So if you can't, we understand, but if you can, even at the smallest level, there's no difference to me between a $5 donor and a $5,000 donor. So if you can give, please do it at ACLJ.org or become an ACLJ champion where it's recurring.

Because when you have these cases, they seem small. Again, they seem like, oh, I'm going to go help a community, a guy who wants to have his home church or community center church. This is not how this works. We can step in with the best of the best. We can have the best of the best because we can afford the best of the best.

We can't afford the best of the best without your financial support. So I wanted to make sure people understood that, Will, as we go into the last segment here. We're going to take a lot of your phone calls also as well, because I like to hear from you.

We usually have a lot of ACLJ top experts on this show, and I appreciate all of them, whether that's Will, whether that's members of our legal team. Today, I always like to wrap up with taking your calls. So give me a call right now at 1-800-684-3110. I think we should take a call real quickly.

You want to do that? Yeah, but I did want to make one point as well on the case in California. Now, we got involved in May after the client was denied their rights in April. So it still took several months, even though we had Supreme Court precedent like Lambs Chapel case that is an ACLJ victory that said you can't let other groups use your government facility, but you can't exclude Christians. And so we even had the right law, but we still had to take months to fight and make sure they got the correct thing across the finish line, and we will still do that.

So it takes months of work, even when you have the law on your side, but we will continue to fight for the clients. Let's go ahead and take a call. Let's take Scott from Nevada on line one. Scott, you're on Sekulow.

Yes, hi. I heard a comment from Jesse Watters last week that the reason that this particular vice Presidential candidate was picked by the Harris campaign was because they know that they're running a losing campaign and they didn't want to expose other people like Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer to being tied to a losing campaign. And I was wondering what your thoughts are, were on that. You know, I will say that I thought that not necessarily in walls, but I thought that at first that they thought Trump was so far ahead that you could kind of sacrifice Harris to then reset in four years. I really did think that.

I was like, okay, well, this makes sense. Biden doesn't get the big loss. She takes the loss. Then it gets, cause she was very unpopular.

Let's just be honest until a few weeks ago, very unpopular. She takes the loss. We move on. They don't have to worry about her running in a couple of years because they think, well, she already had her chance at the candidacy.

Usually you don't get that twice so we can move on from Harris. And what I think has happened well is the reverse, which is it became a breath of fresh air for the Democrats to not have to be dealing with President Biden, who they were sadly embarrassed of, not sadly, but you know, they were embarrassed of because of his performance at that debate that now it was a breath of fresh air to just have someone who could speak kinda. Well, and now polls are showing that. And I see, I don't agree with the fact that they think that the Harris walls are a, you know, a sacrifice here just to move on because I think they wouldn't have forced Biden out if they thought it was going to be a losing ticket because then regardless if Tim walls had a future in Presidential politics, the amount of shakeup in shenanigans that they pulled to make this happen, even Biden talking in interviews now about how it was the party big wigs that pushed him out. They would not have done that if they still thought they were going to lose.

They would have let that lose and move on. Yeah, no, I think that right now we're having a situation where they very much think that there is a pathway to victory and look, there may be, this is why I can't be ignorant to this. We gotta be paying attention. We gotta be clear headed. We gotta be talking about policy, talking about facts, get away from the personal attacks. They are losing a lot of voters for you when you attack Harris over things that are goofy, silly comedy. And I feel that way, by the way, about the others, quit calling people weird, push into fake reports. I'm sick of it from both of them.

There are clear policies from the Harris campaign and clear policies from the Trump campaign. Pick the one you want from that, but that's not how it's going to be. Hey, taking all your phone calls coming up in the next segment, Will's going to do it.

Not me. So guess what? Have some fun. 1-800-684-3110. Sorry, phone screeners.

1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Final segment of the show today, and we're going to go right to the phones. We're going to go to Bob calling on line two from Michigan. Bob, welcome to Sekulow. You guys do great and historically important work, and I thank you for that. God bless to you. Thank you, Bob.

I would like to, thanks. I would like to say that Kamala Harris, I think she would feel the pressure to attend all three debates because otherwise she would be called rightfully a cut and run coward just like she was at the border. Well, Bob, and that's the kind of what we're seeing is that Kamala Harris has said she would be open to more debates. I really doubt that she will follow through and do a Fox News debate just because I don't think that she would feel comfortable in unfriendly territory. When you have these debates many times with the organizations that put them on, it's typically two against one. You have the Democrat candidate that is running for the office.

You have the moderators, which are very friendly to that party's policies. And then you have the conservative that is having to fight off a two front battle as it were on these debate stages. But I do think that we will see the September 10th one on ABC when we will see if they are able to negotiate out a couple other debates.

Time will tell. I think as you're saying, she will probably feel the pressure, but right now she is feeling pressure to do an interview and their response is, we'll get to it sometime this month. She has given a total, I believe 90 seconds worth of answering questions at press gaggles on Tarmacs and they're all about, hey, when are you going to do an interview? So I don't think she's feeling the pressure right now to get out there more than these large rallies where they have a concert involved, so free tickets to a concert to get big numbers to show up in some places like Atlanta. And unfortunately, no time for the media to really talk about policy, but let's go ahead and go to Anne calling on line three from Pennsylvania and you're on secular. You're doing such a great job.

I love you guys. Um, I will be donating because it's important to me and I've been wanting to start donating quite some time ago, but in any case, all Trump has to do is to continually harp on the America first policies and combat the obvious Flander and I'm talking about on the debate stage that will no doubt be coming from Kamala and he absolutely will no doubt point out her horrible record in office and in Congress and as a prosecutor, then of course her horrible Marxist policies, but I have to say one more thing. I am so tired and this is not ACLJ. I'm so tired of hearing some conservative punditry and it's sometimes the same old talking point. If he stays on point and sticks to the policies and doesn't come off as angry and he'll do fine and then Kamala, if she has a, you know, an okay performance, she will be lauded as like doing a great debate. Well, we know this already, right? But all, and we know that President Trump is going to fulfill the, the, the, the former of what I was saying because that's, he is, he is so popular because of the people, not because of the way Trump talks, not because of his personality, not because of his different style of giving off a speech, because I do think personally he is a very good orator.

Donald J. Trump. And I just love you guys. I'm going to be donating soon because you know what? You guys are doing amazing work.

The ACLJ has been around for many years doing what it needs to do and I will be donating and I love you guys. God bless you so much. Thank you so much, Ann. And I actually wanted to play this bite as well. This was from JD Vance as he was making his rounds on the Sunday shows and, and was kind of calling out to that point as Ann was kind of referencing about how the media will treat the Trump campaign versus how they're treating Kamala Harris, who has not given an interview to them at this point. But this is bite two and it's just very interesting.

I'll give some commentary after we play it. Now ask me three questions about comments that I made three years ago. I wonder what Kamala Harris thinks about the fact that she supported policies that opened the American Southern border. I wonder what Kamala Harris thinks about the fact that she lied to the American people about Joe Biden's middle, middle facility for the office. You are interviewing me, Dana, because I respect the American people enough to sit down for an interview. Kamala Harris has been the nominee for three weeks. She hasn't sat down for a real interview. We are asking. You're not going to get a disagreement there.

The point is, Dana, you've got me for 15 minutes or however long you have me. We should be talking about public policies that matter. How are we going to lower inflation? How are we going to reduce the cost of food and housing?

How are we going to close down that southern border? We've talked so little about that. We've talked a lot more about a sarcastic remark I made three years ago.

I think we should talk about the issues. I think that's really refreshing from J.D. Vance, honestly, because he's calling out the media for what they love to do. They love to play the politics of personality. They like to harp on a, as he references, a sarcastic comment he made three years ago.

They like to be divisive instead of doing a reporter's job of trying to challenge them on their policies, saying, this is your policy. Why do you think it's better for Americans? How will that economic plan work? How is it going to be paid for? How are you going to get that across the finish line? How are you going to get it beyond a Senate filibuster?

Even if Republicans have control of the Senate, how are they going to get enough Democrats to let it move forward on a vote? That is the type of questioning that a media, an independent media, you'd think would be interested in instead of the politics of personality that they become obsessed with over the past decades. I mean, this isn't new, but you see it in a world where Donald Trump is in politics, that it becomes just so aggressive and over the top. It's the phrase Trump derangement syndrome. The media has that beyond compare of any other politician because they can't get over this politics of personality. And I think with J.D.

Vance calling them out, calling Dana Bash out for it right there on CNN, like, hey, why are we talking about this? I'm on here. You have 15 minutes with me. I'll sit down. I respect the American people.

I want you to challenge me. And yet they are still dealing with the politics of personality. It's a shame.

It's a disservice to the United States and to the American people, but that's where we are. We're going to go to Randy calling from Ohio on line one. Randy, you're on secular. Hey, thanks for taking my call. I listen to you all I get the chance to, you know, during this time of day target. But anyway, I don't really have a question.

I just would like to make a point. I'm not big on the national polls because she was so close in the national polls. They wouldn't be fighting so hard to read brand or that, you know, it's a very good point.

Randy. Also, one thing people have to remember is that, wow, the national poll can be a barometer. That's not how you win an election where really it comes down to the Electoral College and how you're playing in key swing states.

Because if a national survey is heavy on Democrat areas and you look at those analytics and where they were polling, it could tell you a very different picture of what the United States is looking at. But I do understand that it is going to be a close race. Presidential politics is very close. No matter what year you're looking at these days, we're a very divided, partisan country at this point.

So I understand your point. But at the same time, it's really going to be those swing states and who can pull off the win in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, states like that. But folks, thank you for watching today and thank you for calling in. I do want to remind you about our life and liberty drive here in the month of August. The federal government is being weaponized against conservatives, and that's exactly what our life and liberty drive was built for.

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