Disgraced FBI Agent: Jan. 6 Worse Than 9/11

Today on Sekulow, disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzok calls January 6 worse than 9-11. We'll talk about that today on Sekulow. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow. But when you look at something that is an attack on democracy, something that could actually bring about a fundamental change to American governance as we understand it, 9-11 is nothing compared to January 6. We want to hear from you.

Share and post your comments. Or call 1-800-684-3110. And the fact that the FBI and the rest of the government, if they are not on the same sort of war footing that we were on in the weeks and months and years after 9-11, shame on everyone. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. That's Peter Strzok, disgraced FBI agent, fired by the FBI for his politics. Of course, these text messages back and forth will have a backup plan, you know, and will get Trump. We're going to stop it.

Yeah, we'll stop Trump from being elected. So he's no longer at the FBI, but he's now an MSNBC guy. Of course, you're a disgraced FBI agent. Where else could you go?

You go to MSNBC. Yeah, exactly. Because he's still a hero to them. I want to play this in full context for you one more time. It's pretty shocking to hear it the first time. So this is Peter Strzok yesterday on MSNBC.

Take a listen. But when you look at something that is an attack on democracy, something that could actually bring about a fundamental change to American governance as we understand it, 9-11 is nothing compared to January 6. And the fact that the FBI and the rest of the government, if they are not on the same sort of war footing that we were on in the weeks and months and years after 9-11, shame on everyone.

All right, I want to take your calls on this 1-800-684-3110. This shows you where the Democrats are, where the law enforcement is, two federal law enforcement is as well. The politics at play. Think about the statement he just made.

I think you have to break it down in multiple parts. First part, Logan, is just the basic part, the most shocking part of it was that 9-11 is nothing compared to January 6. Nearly 3,000 Americans died on 9-11. Two wars were started after 9-11. Iraq and Afghanistan, many more Americans than died in those wars. We just left Afghanistan.

It was a horrendous leaving Afghanistan. We'll get to that later in the broadcast because Kareem Jean-Pierre is saying, oh, it was great, we're getting Americans out. But that's the first part about this statement is one person died on January 6 and it was a protester who was shot by a police officer. Yeah, I mean, look, you don't have to be an apologist for one to denounce another.

I mean, I don't understand even why this is coming up in conversation, why January 6 and 9-11 have to even exist in the same world. They want to demonize all of us as somehow a threat to the United States that is equivalent or worse, he's actually saying worse, than the Taliban and Al Qaeda and ISIS. Yeah, and I wouldn't even associate... So we're Islamic terrorists.

Yeah, what about we? I mean, that's what you're saying. People who are support MAGA. I mean, he gets broader than the people who were actually there on January 6. It's the HCO, anybody behind Trump is a threat to our national security, not equivalent even, but worse so than the 9-11 hijackers and the terrorists from Al Qaeda and Islamic terrorists. This is how they view American citizens, not foreign nationals, American citizens who, yes, may have broken the law and that's fine.

You know, you can break the law in America. That does not mean that everybody who's a Republican or everybody who supports Donald Trump or everybody who supports Make America Great Again is a violent threat. Now, you know who it is a threat to though?

Peter Strzok. He lost his job over this, so he's bitter. But to compare something where nearly 3,000 Americans died, not just in New York, but of course in Pennsylvania, the Pentagon and the wars that followed. Let's not forget those. So you can really add up all of the casualties there. This to me is just sickening and I want to take phone calls on at 1-800-684-3110 and I wish that every single Democrat and all those members of the January 6, that bogus committee got questioned about this.

Do you agree with Peter Strzok? Because Lord knows you spent a lot of time on January 6 and not a lot of time on fixing our economy and getting America energy independent and dealing with reality. You know, we're just a few weeks out from the elections, folks. I mean, it's election day now in the state.

People are voting as we speak. This needs to be front and center. You want these people running your law enforcement? And by the way, thanks John Durham.

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I want you to share this with your friends and family. A few weeks out from election day while people are already voting, this is what they need to know. A lot today. We're going to get into Pelosi denying that the economy matters to voters. Gaslighting America. This idea of Stacey Abrams. Abortion is about gas prices. And that every woman is really the gas prices and they just got to kill their child and then they wouldn't worry about inflation.

Which by the way, there's a lot of people who don't have kids or kids are grown up who still have to drive to work and abortion doesn't affect them at all either way. But this is the insanity coming out of the Democrats. This is what happens when they start flailing. Biden's getting worse and worse on stage.

We're going to play that later. It's hard to even play on a radio broadcast because the man should not be on stage anymore. There was a story that Jill Biden has supposedly stepped in a couple times to say you've got to give him tighter cues, get him off the stage. Because he'll stay on the stage and come back to the microphone.

Twice. That's what happened yesterday during his Roe vs Wade rally. Which is so out of touch to have an 80 year old man with pink Roe vs Wade. I love, by the way, we're not supposed to talk gender things. We don't pink and blue.

But the Roe rally was pink and purple. Well in that speech, we decided not to play it because it is impossible to listen to. It's too hard to do on radio. It went from him ending it saying God bless America, God bless our troops, I'm sorry.

He said thank you, I'm sorry. And then they started playing Your Love Has Lifted Me Higher, like really loud. Like in Ghostbusters 2 you have the Statue of Liberty walking by.

There's something about gay marriage. And then he just stops and he's like silent and then he's like brings it back down. I'm sorry, I don't like to ever not, I don't like to talk to people that are behind me. I hate that there are people behind me. I apologize to the people behind me. We have a little bit of it.

It was so bizarre. I'm sure we have some of it. I guess we could play it.

It is music for a lot of it. It takes some time. We're going to get back to Peter Strzok and take your calls back because Peter Strzok said more. Since we brought up Biden, we got 30 seconds, we're here. You're kind of getting a taste of a secular brothers podcast with a little more anger. I'd say that's what it is because we start out the day. It's like mid-morning secular brothers. Yeah, there's things we got to say. Then we go do the show and it's a little sillier. So all right, yeah, let's play it. Check it out by 43. We are the United States of America and there's nothing beyond our capacity.

So vote, vote, vote. God bless you all and may God protect our troops. Thank you, I'm sorry. I was apologizing for my back.

My mother would be very angry. I was talking with people with my back to them. I mean, this is very normal for politicians to have a crowd behind them.

He's done it thousands of times, I would assume. I felt like it was the end of Ghostbusters 2. It did, yeah. Everyone's cheering. Or the dancing. Is that the dancing? No, well, both because the pink slime loves Jackie Wilson. That's just a part of it.

That's how I know it, but that's the reverse way. I want to get back to Peter Strzok though because this is the second part. I think this actually, listen, it's absurd to say that 9-11 was nothing compared to January 6th, okay, because the amount of death. 9-11 was nothing, it cannot be compared to anything.

It changed our entire makeup for generations. It went to war. They went to war in Afghanistan, they went to war in Iraq. We were still dealing with, by the way, under the Trump administration, ISIS. This was all from Islamic terrorism at an extreme level. Yes, there was the attack on the USS Cole and the attacks happening on U.S. sites overseas. But they took Islamic terrorism and brought it right to our most important city really economically in the country, New York.

The symbol of freedom and liberty. And to see those two towers fall, if you lived through that, it changed everything. January 6th, five years from now, I don't know that it changed anything for me. It was a few thousand bad actors. They didn't kill anybody. The person who got killed was a protester. They did break the law. It was bad to storm the Capitol.

I don't like breaking down the window. It's not good. But, again, a lot of it, too, it was very confused at who was actually responsible, who were the really, really bad versus just the kind of stupid actors that were there who went along with the crowd. There are a lot of... Again, in 8-9-11. Let me say, we don't defend it, but it was a protest that went awry opposed to a terrorist attack. When you have big crowds... Stuff happened.

I mean, I've been to plenty of events where things just... where chaos ensues, breaks out, riots ensue, where things just happen, where you are in the middle of a crowd and you don't know what's happening and you're not necessarily involved in it. And, again, this is not to defend anything that happened on January 6th. What this is to say, how about we just... it's like the Holocaust. We just don't compare 9-11 to really anything. It shouldn't even be in your lexicon. And to say that this is more damaging to our country is wild.

Yeah. I want to play it one more time because I want you to hear the second part. This is actually the part that should make you the most concerned and why we cannot let these people continue to have power. He doesn't anymore technically inside the FBI, but he's a Democrat star now. So they listen to people like Peter Strzok. Take a listen again.

Listen to the second part. But when you look at something that is an attack on democracy, something that could actually bring about a fundamental change to American governance as we understand it, 9-11 is nothing compared to January 6th. And the fact that the FBI and the rest of the government, if they are not on the same sort of war footing that we were on in the weeks and months and years after 9-11, shame on everyone. So he wants the FBI and I guess the military to be on the same kind of war footing that they were on against Islamic radical terrorism against Americans.

Because who are the actors here? Not foreign nationals that you can use the Patriot Act on. Well, they do use FISA courts.

They did use FISA courts to go after Americans because they said they were foreign agents. I mean ask Carter Page about that. Try to ruin people's lives. And this idea that we are going to make enemies, literal actual enemies, enemies that you're going to war with. And he's not talking about war politically. He's talking about war footing like you kill. You kill those enemies. You have to eliminate, eradicate. That's what we had to do with Islamic terrorist leaders. We had to eradicate ISIS. We had to eradicate Al Qaeda. And we didn't stop by just saying, oh, they ran back to the caves. We kept going until we killed them. That is what he is saying we need to do to Americans that he disagrees with politically.

This is disgusting. This is the worst of the Democrats, but this is what they are telling people is that we are that kind of level of enemy to their perfect country. And these guys are in charge and were in charge of the highest levels of our federal law enforcement.

They had a lot of power to try and take down and ruin your life. Thank God he's out. But we now know from FBI whistleblowers, let's go through the list as we have, that the FBI was weaponized to go after conservatives.

Whistleblowers have told that to Jim Jordan. They pumped up the domestic violent extremism numbers, which were all the same people they got arrested on January 6th, but because they arrested them in different states, they said, oh, this state's got a problem with domestic violent extremism. But it was just a person who went to that and again, broke the law. We're not defending that.

Action. But to put that on par with 9-11, he should not be on TV anymore. He should lose his MSNBC job. And all those people that were in New York that day, it's just how quickly they forget. And we'll just use it for politics.

I think to use 9-11 politics is disgusting. Yeah. And it does come up a lot. It does because it is that sort of benchmark. It's fine because it was such a benchmark.

Right. But even the last time around, we thought that, well, and this is the problem when you get 20 plus years away from something, you start to trivialize it. It starts, as you said, becoming a talking point, becoming a political talking point. And people, there are plenty of voters, an entire generation of voters now who are not alive when 9-11 happened. So for them, they may see images of people running and then they see images of the January 6th riots and say, oh, we could put those two together.

People were jumping out of a hundred floor buildings because they were on fire, because the heat was so strong. Let's not forget, okay, never forget what happened that day, that January 6th, it's just ridiculous to compare. We're a strong country. We can survive 9-11.

You can certainly survive January 6th. That should have been a blip. 9-11 was not because of what followed. We gave up a lot of civil liberties after 9-11. We said, you know what, we got to give up some of our rights. And that's part of what our founders said.

There are times through our Constitution where you have to balance your liberty interest and your security interest. And that's always, they're always in conflict. Yeah.

Maybe they should have been sunset at some point, but that's a different conversation. Well, this is the case. These guys were using the laws from 9-11 to go after Americans. Like school board, remember the whole thing with school boards? That was the FBI treating moms like terrorists, saying that we need to bring federal charges. The Tea Party, when we represented them, Lois Lerner wrote to the FBI, we need to figure out how to bring federal criminal charges against one of these Tea Party groups and that will shut them all down. Yeah. And you know that if this Tea Party movement had happened right now in a post-Trump world, it would have been just- We were outside the Capitol all the time in these big rallies.

No problem. Yeah. Downtown. With Steve Bannon.

And kind of fun. You know, a lot of the people that are names that you, that have become, you know, normal Washington, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee out in Utah. By the way, support Mike Lee. If you're not a Utah voter and you can help him any way you can, go to his website, support.

We can't lose Mike Lee in Washington, D.C. He was there with us on stage at those Tea Party events. Ted Cruz was there with us on stage. Bannon on stage.

You know, these were people, Rand Paul, on stage with us. Not afraid to join up with the grassroots Americans. And you see, it's taken us what we've gotten a long way.

We've won a lot of things. But we have to double down. We have got to get rid of Nancy Pelosi. We've got to get rid of Chuck Schumer. We've got to put some kind of just- We've got to investigate. We need the Senate. We need the House.

That's critical to you, folks. We're going to take your phone calls when you come back. 1-800-684-3110. Support the work of the ACLJ.

Donate if you can at ACLJ.org. I'm going to take the calls on Strzok first. And then I'm going to get to some sound Nancy Pelosi. Because this is the more insanity. These people do not live in reality. So whether they want to go to war with us because- In literal- I mean, they're talking about war. They're saying they need to be Peter Strzok. We need to be the same war footing. What, are they going to throw us in black sites and waterboard us? Are we going to use the Patriot Act to come after all of us?

They would love to. But we have a protection against that. That's called elections. And that's turning out the vote en masse. I know a lot of you are concerned about election integrity. But you still have to vote. If you don't vote, we have no chance. And when you get to these days where people are actually starting to vote, polls are important. And of course, some races like Mike Lee's, they pop up and you say, okay, we've got to put some resources there.

We've got to keep Mike Lee in the U.S. Senate. But if you don't show up to vote, they win. They will make sure they get the votes out. I guarantee it.

They are spending millions and millions of dollars to get the vote out. Listen, let me go to the phones first. Let's go to Jerry first in Rhode Island online too. Hey, Jerry. Hey, Jordan.

And I'm going to miss Matt. It's priceless that after what we know that Strzok has done for the last several years for the regular listener, priceless that he's talking about this considering how much was he involved in false FISA warrants. It's priceless that a guy like that could have had that much power for that long and I'm retired law enforcement.

It scares me. Yes, it's so wrong that he's that political. That he wants to take half the country who voted for Donald Trump, about 50%, and they're still pretty fired up.

Half the country is still basically Republican, and go to war with him. He's talking about actual war. He said we need to be on the war footing that we were on post 9-11 against fellow Americans.

This is kind of the social media language that would get you kicked off for inciting violence and those kind of things. But of course, no, because coming from MSNBC, we know the threat can't be taken seriously. This is just some hyperbole he's throwing out there.

But again, it's calculated too. What I don't like is that it wasn't offhand in 9-11. This is clearly something he meant to say. He knew we'd get news. He knew we'd be fired up.

We'd be talking about it. And what they hope also is for people to play into that bait and to react. And not necessarily react like we are, commentating, but react because they want, desperately want, another event to happen. They need another chaotic front because it plays into their narrative.

Yes. And it was like they didn't get it. People didn't keep up. You know, January 6 happened.

Did you see a lot of other mini... No. It really calmed down. People said, okay, this got out of control. We're not going to win over independent voters by rioting. That's not going to help win any elections. So people take a step back.

And you didn't have a bunch of constant mini... But they said, how do we create them? Oh, a parent who's mad about their school's being shut down for two years, we're going to use them as the domestic violence streamers because they raise their voice.

I love that too. And this is our top law enforcement guy. So wussy. Raise your voice. Oh. This parent is too loud at this meeting.

They're actually screaming at their elected official. What you have a God-given right to do here in the United States of America? You really do. Yeah. I mean, it's freedom of speech.

You can say what you want. So that stuff happens. They hate freedom of speech, though. That's another thing that...

I mean, the entire idea... I watched Tucker Cross's show. He did 30 minutes on just them attacking our First Amendment. All these people on MSNBC go and say, well, the problem is we have a First Amendment in our country. The problem.

The problem. You know, this is what... We can make them the minority again. We need to make them the weirdos that they used to be. And you do that by election. You can isolate them if you win elections. You start saying, this is not normal.

I don't care what side of the political aisle you're on. You need to be the outlier, not the norm in America. But even if they are, it's difficult because the media... Makes them out like they're normal. Right. And that's the problem.

It becomes normalized. It's the same thing that's happening with all content across the board. We know that there is a large conservative group of people that want to watch certain TV shows. We see movies that bomb, that are intentionally marketed, thinking that America is different than it is. However, the voices are still the loudest in the room.

And the voices in the loudest room are the ones that are coming from the media. It's why you have to have alternative media options. You have to have a rumble. You have to have... And you even have to have a YouTube. And YouTube has definitely hampered people down. It still has a pretty good platform for a lot of people.

Yes, you have to play by their rules. But really, you have rumble. And you have other social media options. You have other television networks. You have people creating alternative media. I think it's very important.

Honestly, it's not even the alternative. It should be the mainstream media. That's what should be the mainstream media. And it's something we're working on here at the ACLJ as well. They're looking at different avenues that we can go into beyond just these broadcasts every day. Like the Secular Brothers Podcast. We do a shout-out to that right now.

Yeah, we do a broadcast three days a week. It's not as angry. It's not as angry. I mean, yesterday we talked about...

But it can be. In the Boston lab, them creating the 80% Hill Rate COVID. We talked about that for a good 20 minutes on the show yesterday.

Pretty hardcore. Or how about they're thinking about mandating the vaccine as they're putting the vaccine in place for kids to go to school. Which is coming out by the CDC. Yeah, there's a lot of that stuff. We talk about that. And it does get a little more lighthearted. We don't say lighthearted. It's actually casual.

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So check that out. Let's go to Eduardo in New Hampshire on Line 1. Hey Eduardo.

Hey, how are you? Thanks so much for taking my call. Love your show.

Thank you. I was incensed by the idea of comparing Islamic extremists to Americans that were reacting to a lot of passionate conservative values. And the fact is it's not okay, like you said, to riot. And I think, unfortunately, we do have to contend with the facts as they were that we did go overboard or those that participated.

Yeah, sure. But one person got killed and that was a protester. And on 9-11 there were nearly 3,000.

I'm not including the men and women who serve our country who died in the wars that followed 9-11. And I think, Eduardo, you're right. To compare Americans, to say we've got to treat them the same way we treated Al-Qaeda.

Okay. Which, by the way, even some of their treatment was found to be illegal. So it's just these guys came from this time period where I'm glad he's no longer in a position of power, but we know the FBI is full of Peter Strachs. He was just the tip of the iceberg. And do not rely on law enforcement.

We tell you all the time, and we're lawyers, and we say all the time, your court is the last resort. And John Durham, what a joke. What just a horrendous, another waste. Mueller wasted taxpayer resources, even Durham.

At the end of the day, maybe he's able to give some info to Congress to help the Jim Jordans and the people out, but not a single conviction, one plea, one slap on the wrist. So don't look for either. We're not going to be defending that. Because a lot of these career people are horrible.

Let's just be honest. They don't work in the private sector. They think they are strong, and then they go to a jury, and the jury says, this doesn't even seem like, why are we here? Well, that's another quote from Ghostbusters.

You've never worked in the private sector. They expect results. Yeah, we do. We'll be back in 30 more minutes.

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I'm pretty pumped up today. Yeah, 1-800-684-3110. I will say, our long-time phone screener and one of our assistant producers, this is his last day. Matt, you've heard from him for years. So, if you're calling right now, 1-800-684-3110.

I don't want to say give him a hard time, because I don't want him to leave on a bad note. But, you know, today is the day. And then tomorrow, guess what? We have someone less trained to screen out the people who call in and say crazy things. So, if you've been waiting to call, wait till tomorrow, because who knows?

Maybe you'll make it through. But today, we got at least a— You may have been one of those callers who's called over and over to curse at us. Yes, just to call and scream and curse.

Yes, those do happen. Yes, I question whether we should even have open phone lines sometimes. But we do, because we want your voice heard. And because it keeps things on your toes. Yeah, it's nice to hear, you know, to take the pulse of the American people, if you will, at least from our listeners. Though, sometimes we got to be careful, because we're on terrestrial radio, and sometimes people say horribly offensive profanity. So, we have to clear it up. And thankfully, we've had people like Matt who have made sure that that didn't happen as much as he could.

Yeah, I mean, and I think we do a good job of it. Fred is calling in from New York on Line 1. Hey, Fred, welcome to Secular.

Hi, thanks for taking my call. Absolutely. I was just wondering, you know, Peter Strzok is comparing January 6 to 9-11. I wonder why nobody asked him, well, what would you compare the 2020 rioters to then? Because they burned down federal property and, you know, all summer long. Fred, those were mostly peaceful. Yeah, mostly peaceful. Fire, fire. They would be in the, Chris Cuomo would be out there, crying from tear gas. Yeah. Who, you know, and Antifa's out there, and most of it was white kids. I'd say a lot of times, too, the protest part would be, you know, the African American black community would come out and speak at the protest.

And then later on, when the night fell, it was white kids in bandanas, who, by the way, we didn't go to war footing, like you said, Fred, against them. Have you seen the images? There are cities that I love on the West Coast. My wife is a West Coaster from Los Angeles. You know, Rick Grenell's out in California. It's beautiful. She also has family in Portland.

They just showed the images of the press corps when they were with Biden in Portland. And, like, at the hotel I would stay at, at the place we'd walk around. And, you know, it was an eccentric city.

That's fine. It's been taken over by Antifa and drug addict. I mean, there's human waste all over the ground. People in, like, drug seized, like, you know, they're, like, falling over themselves in weird twisted, all over the place, lined up with people living out of vehicles. And these are major, you know, cities in the U.S. that were, remember Portland was, like, up and up.

We're in Nashville. It was kind of, like, being compared. You know, eccentric music and art. And you had a lot of new people out there and businesses out there and thinking this is kind of a new place in the West to go. It's ruined. It's going to take, I hope it comes back.

I want it to come back. But they don't even acknowledge that. Like Fred said, they don't even acknowledge, like, all of the burning of the cities. The fact that Minneapolis has not recovered.

They don't, again, they don't even talk about that as, like, it happens. You have politicians almost ignore it. You have Newsom out there still, like, pretending everything is great in California when everyone you know in California has left. And everyone in California, if they haven't left, there are people like Rick who are over there doing, desperately trying to save what happened to this state.

Because, again, like you said, it's not about abandoning ship, but a lot of people have just for the safety of their families. And you hear these stories that you write. There are these cities that are already strange, eccentric, fun, whether that was San Francisco or whether that was Portland or any of these, even parts of Los Angeles. But you hear about it getting overrun. And honestly, as we've said before, too, the big concern is as stuff happens out West, it moves east and stuff starts to permeate because everyone has to try to, because it's such a big populace, it affects everyone. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's like Eric Adams say, well, I mean, you know, only six people got hurt on the subway and millions of people use it. But it's the idea is like if six people are getting pushed into the subway a day or six people get their throat slashed. And this is this is this can't be normal in a city like New York. And how many people overperform and how many people then decide, well, I'm not going to ride the subway. New York doesn't work. Right.

Then it's a big roll out and there's a big problem. Give us a call. We take some more calls. Nancy Pelosi telling you that you don't care about the economy. Yeah. You don't care about inflation. Voters just care about killing babies.

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But now I'm hitting a different age. It might start happening again. Yeah.

We both are looking like we've lived hard. No. We got to hear about Pelosi.

Yes. This is another absurd one. Then we'll get to Stacey Abrams, hopefully the next segment. And we are taking your calls 1-800-684-3110 on any of this. This is politics.

This is a few weeks out. I will tell you, this is an example of the gaslighting, too. I tweeted out, it was actually Rick Rinnell's tweet because he told us on air he's going to be with Mike Lee out in Utah. And I really like Mike Lee. I've said this, you know, we did the impeachment trial. Right in front of us was Mike Lee, Senator Kennedy, and Senator Paul. So it was a fun group to have right in front of you because even though they couldn't talk, you know, you get to interact. And these were the guys who were like with us from the beginning. Like when they got to Washington, they weren't afraid of ACLJ or like being on the same stage.

They wanted to be on the same stage, so we can't lose guys like this. But, you know, Rick retweeted my tweet. Oh, the hate.

And it's all the January 6th stuff. Yeah, that's what Twitter is at this point. So, you know, Strzok is Biden. But this is Nancy Pelosi. You got to listen closely with her because another feeble leader on the Democrat side. Again, but she's a lot more with it than Joe Biden.

She's playing you here. Take a listen. After the Supreme Court ruling, there was huge outrage that has seemed to subside, at least among overriding concerns, despite all the legislative accomplishments.

And I want to cite them. I want to say it's been an extraordinary session. You and the President have done so much in terms of domestic concerns, the economy. So why is this message? Why do you think the President has gotten this message through the voters? Well, first of all, let me say that I think that much of what you've said, I don't agree with. That is to say the New York Times poll, I think, is an outlier poll. You cite one poll, but all the others. It's also the real clear politics average is showing similar issues. No, but that was one that brought down the average and it was an outlier. It wasn't even that big a sample. So I dismiss that.

It's just lying. Every poll shows economy or inflation or both as the number one issue. Abortion does track now.

So you could you could be honest and say, well, you know, people do care about it is tracking. But it's down at like number four and five in most polls. And she's now this is where they've got to learn. Now, the New York Times polls are wrong. Now, real clear politics, which is a poll of polls, which polling is not great anymore. But trend polling is good.

And trend polling shows you is just where people move and what they pay attention to. Two months ago, there were a lot of more people caring about abortion. That's what Andrea Mitchell saying.

I don't think she was saying that the news had peaked and it had gone down. And then Joe Biden tried to bring it back up with his really weird Roe versus Wade rally yesterday, which we already played how bizarre that got. He got confused that it wasn't a a same sex marriage event, which was very bizarre because he started thanking people for that. He got overfilled, confused with Dodd. This is confused. But he's got a giant Roe versus Wade sign, Roe signs behind him and he can't figure it out.

Let's invite 40. Here's Joe Biden. The right that I pushed hard and it finally got changed. The married couples and the privacy of the Red Room. Excuse me. I'm thinking about the Dobbs decision.

First of all, that's not even overfilled. That's not the marriage case. This is going back to the Texas case back in, I think, 2006. So we're talking about the Bush years. And this was about the sodomy laws. I'll just say it like that.

It was basically those being struck off the books, which then ultimately led to, which was a very different case than overfilled. But again, I think even on the right, people have kind of accepted this and moved on. Yeah. This is just another just example, honestly, of just someone who doesn't know what's happening around them. Again, I don't like, you don't want to be mean. You don't want to be someone who, I don't like that we just jumped to rhetoric saying those kinds of things.

But he shows over time and time again, the ice cream. Well, someone brought up in our production meeting that it's like when George W. Bush would make a stumble, it was every news outlet covered a stumble. A stumble for George W. Bush was saying a word wrong. Off the teleprompter wrong.

Off a teleprompter. Or just being a little silly. And he would laugh if he did it.

He'd catch himself. This guy does not know what's going on. I mean, he really doesn't. And more and more they're putting out, well, Jill Biden's stepping in and other people are stepping in to help. This is, this again, I'm not, he's not on the ballot, but his policies are. And his policies have cost us all a lot more money. And Nancy Pelosi's saying, eh, eh, no one cares about inflation in the economy. Let's prove her wrong.

Doesn't that usually happen though? Though Joe Biden's not on the ballot, he technically is. You always have the referendum if there is a President, or typically you do, a President that things are not going well, so therefore their party suffers the consequences. Yeah, this is what I want. I want to make Joe Manchin irrelevant. I want Joe Biden to have to come to the table with Republicans. And you know what, I'm glad there's a lot more unity, if you've noticed this, from the Kevin McCarthy's to the Marjorie Taylor Greene's are coming together. We've realized we have a bigger problem than just, oh, that rhetoric's too much for me. We can unite. We're the big tent party now.

I think that's fair to say. Look at Tulsi Gabbard. Not just leaving the Democrat party, but embracing our candidates. And some of our candidates are taking the most heat just because they talk the way we talk. You know, this is what the Democrats can't stand, is that Republican grassroots are now the Republican elected officials.

That doesn't mean they're not highly educated, that doesn't mean they're highly accomplished, but they're not just the politicians that would usually make it up through the process anymore. And that has got them frightened. They are scared like Peter Strzok.

I think they really are scared. But they're scared because they're Washington they're used to, may be gone forever. Under Trump, we were pretty close to redoing, as we said, draining the swamp. Redoing Washington to where it would never be the same for them again.

And they're swamp creatures. It still feels like that. And we can do it. I think we're on the, we have to keep it up. Let's also hear, Pelosi talks about inflation and kind of has to have a deflection in it. Here's how she gets out of the question of what about inflation, isn't that important? Of course we want to fight inflation.

It's a global issue. But some of the inflation in our country sprang from the fact that this President created nearly 10 million jobs, at least 9 million jobs working with the private sector. The private sector creates a lot of that. You create more jobs, there's more inflation. That's the opposite of more jobs. If people have more jobs and more resources to spend, then the prices of things go down because everybody's buying them. Everybody wants to go on a vacation.

So guess what? Airline tickets aren't expensive because there's more people flying. There's more demand. At this time, what we have is we don't have the supply.

We don't even, and people that are getting jobs, it's still below their pay, it's not going along with the inflation, so they're in the whole 3% at least right now, like if you're a hourly wager. So you're already down, even if you're taking one of these jobs. It's, again, it's gaslighting. I think they're really, it's not so much trying to convince us, they're trying to convince their own people to come out and vote right now.

A lot of these independent voters, we talk about the white women voters, suburban mom voter, that's who she's trying to convince to still vote Democrat. People are smarter than that. I think they're seeing past.

First of all, these people are too old. The rhetoric, we can all Google things and find out what's fact and fiction. You hope people do, though. There are people who just don't.

They just listen to... Not usually as many in the midterms, but they're hoping they can get some of those groups out. Let's go to Sheila in California online, too. We come back, by the way, next segment, Stacey Abrams.

Killing babies is more important than the gas. All right. Hey, hey, Sheila.

Hi, thanks for taking my call. This is a comment and a question. All this nonsense, Peter actually comparing 9-11 to January 6th and then Nancy Pelosi denouncing every possible poll, questioning sample sizes, inflation, everything. This time around with this much nonsense, I can't even remember seeing this much nonsense, I just want a true assessment from the ACLJ. Do you really think in your heart of hearts, in your opinions, will this help the red vote, the Republicans this time around? I think if they are flailing to this point where Nancy Pelosi is having to come on to Andrea Mitchell to disagree with MSNBC and say New York Times polls are wrong, real clear politics, poll of polls, which is a conglomeration of all the polls, you don't have to even have a poll to know that people care about the economy is the number one issue right now. Inflation is freaking people out. It doesn't take, I don't need a poll. Just walk around, go from state to state, city to city, these places are doing the best.

Go to your wealthiest areas, go to your poorest areas, go to the middle class areas. People are concerned. So I do think when they're flailing like this, it's a good sign. We need to, again, you put your foot on the gas pedal, you keep the foot down. Okay, it's 20 days. Hit, hit, hit. Every time you can point there out, their absurdity, their insanity, their craziness, point it out. We can take back the power.

1-800-684-3110. We've got more coming up. Maybe there's more. That's right. One more segment and then Stacey Abrams. Yep. You're not going to miss it.

We'll be right back. Election denier Stacey Abrams, which by the way, she's not being investigated by the FBI for denying the election or being told that she can't be a candidate for office and no one's trying to impeach her. Of course, you can't be impeached if you don't win anything. But we did see that they tried to impeach her even after you're President, like President Trump. So could we, I don't think we have to spend the time at the state level to impeach Stacey Abrams in Georgia.

And I think Kemp is going to beat her. If people show up, remember how close that election was. You're saying record turnout for early. And that could go either way.

That usually is not great for us. But that means you've got to then record turnout on election day. And we know Kemp in the polls is up higher.

He was last time too, and it was a very close race. Stacey has a machine. So I'm not discrediting her political abilities to try and flip a state. It's certainly she's struggling more. But in this, again, at points like Nancy Pelosi, they start saying things that are just way off, not even just liberal talking points, just kind of just insane if you actually pay attention to the words they're using.

Take a listen. Having children is why you're worried about your price for gas. It's why you're concerned about how much food costs for women. This is not a reductive issue. You can't divorce being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy from the economic realities of having a child.

Okay. I don't think the state savings is a mom. We have kids.

I'm not women, but we do have kids. This idea that the gas prices is because if you have a kid, you got to take them to school or something. I mean, school is probably not the furthest place away you go. It's probably not as far as your workplace.

It might be about the same, but also public schools have buses. I mean, this is what they say, don't burn me with a child because that's why we have bad inflation. It's just not true.

We have bad inflation because we have bad policies in place. It does not have to do with abortion. It does not have to do with Roe vs. Wade. Either way, however, the court decided on Dobbs would not have affected Logan, inflation. They could have upheld Roe and we could still have bad inflation.

So they figured out a way to kind of caveat it and create another answer. And look, you're talking about school buses. Vice President Harris has a solution to your school bus issues. I have a particular fondness, I must tell you, for electric school buses. I love electric school buses. Where do you get one of those? I don't even know. Does anywhere have electric school buses at this point? Probably in Portland. You drive by the crackhead and everybody- We do know hopefully it doesn't rain because there's a problem.

They'll explode. That's true. Now we know in places like- Hurricanes or just keep them covered. That's why I keep going back to Elon Musk, who makes money off selling electric vehicles, and he said we cannot go to this nationally. Right now it's a niche thing.

We're just figuring it out. Yeah, early adopters. Yeah, it's people who go to tech early, like you.

Yeah, I love the idea. But you haven't gone electric. I have a pre-order. You're trying to, but because of buying bad policies- I can't spend my money on a car. Well, that is wild. You still can't.

No. You can't get a truck. You can't get this truck. I can be on a waiting list for eight months.

They're like, you can get this truck next summer. What do you have right now? That's what I'll take? Thank you. I'll just keep my car. That's what I did. You have to.

That's what a lot of times you have to. All right, well, we do have some lines open. If you want to call in, this is a last-second call in, and also harass our phone screener. It's his last day.

So 1-800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110. It is an interesting time, because like you said, how do you take a comment like what came out of Stacey Abrams and what comes out of these people that are taking- other things are happening in politics, so whether it's inflation or gas prices and all that, but somehow tying it into social issues, tying it into life. Because they talk about abortion like we're living in 1920s or even maybe the 50s. We have birth control.

It's been out for a long time. It works. You don't have to ever get pregnant, really. I mean, you don't. And so this idea that you'll be burdened and it's the men and they're trying to keep women down and they don't want women to go to work, women are some of the most powerful people in the world now. There's prime ministers. We have a vice President.

I don't think anybody would mind if somebody was President. I don't think they're right or left. It doesn't matter. You can be CEOs of the companies. That's wonderful. I have two daughters. I'm glad about that.

Speaker of the House. Yeah, right. But they talk about it's still 1950. There's no birth control and it's just men going around impregnating everybody and you've got no other option. That's not reality and it hasn't been reality for her entire life, my entire life, your entire life.

Most people that are alive today were not alive during a time where there was no birth control. Yeah. And look, it's not just Stacey Abrams. AOC just a couple of weeks ago kind of doubled down. So this is what happens is these narratives start, then they all start using them. Yeah. Remember, it became that even the fetal heartbeat was not really a heartbeat from Stacey Abrams a few weeks ago. That started with like another story that then gets in their cycle and all of a sudden they just keep talking about it.

So let's hear on number 45. This is AOC. You know, I think it's important to state that that abortion is an economic issue. Forcing poor and working class people to give birth against their will, against their consent, against their ability to provide for themselves or a child is a profound economic issue. And it's certainly a way to keep a workforce basically conscripted. I know they love a good communist state where you have conscripted forced labor. And I'm not talking about giving birth, but forced labor, like forced work camps.

But that doesn't even make sense. So this is where it starts with AOC is that you have to keep your job, you keep your workforce, tying it all into that. A lot of people, if you're having children, you would be leaving for some period of time, not conscripted into work. And most workplaces now, if you're in that corporate world, if you're a career person, you have pretty good weeks or months off. I mean, we're not in Europe, but we've made a lot of changes to try and accommodate women who want to have children and return to work. We do have a call coming in. It's not related to that. We have a couple minutes here, but it's related to the crimes of these cities.

Yeah, what it's like in these cities. Let's take it real quick. Let's go to Linda on line one and then we'll wrap up. Linda, you're on the air. Thank you.

Thank you for taking my call. I'm about 20 minutes from downtown Minneapolis. I will not go down there anymore. I have friends that have been carjacked in the middle of the day, children in the car. Nobody cares about this stuff. All the ads from governor walls, all those is about abortion and I'm not, I'm not for abortion, but what about the people getting killed? The little kids sitting in cars, all that stuff downtown, the Minneapolis city council doing nothing about it. Nothing. The police are quitting.

Nobody wants to go down there. I mean, you know, what's this all about? I mean, are these people blind? Uh, they've, they've just bought into the politics, defund the police. You see what happened in Minneapolis. I mean, you, you've seen you, you're 20 minutes outside the city and most places we can see you living in Minneapolis, barely suburban. And the fact that you say, and this was a city that hosted the, I remember the Republican convention. It was Minneapolis.

St Paul's great. I'm never thought about it as like this being a dangerous place to be. Uh, and I get that there were, again, what you can always say these are what happened to George Floyd was horrible. Okay. And protest from that. Understandable. They get a little out of hand.

Understandable. Why to this day are they still boarded up in those streets? Because the police got kicked out. Like, like you said, the police wouldn't come back. And when there is no police and no security, you can't have a business. And guess whose neighborhoods that affected the most not hers.

She's out of the suburbs. It's affected black businesses, black communities, George Floyd's neighborhood. And the businesses there are all closed.

Still. I saw them do it. It was like on MSNBC or one of them. They were doing a tour of what it looked like there.

Now it's just all boarded up. It's sad. Left or right. It should just be something we want to fix as Americans. Support the work of the ACLJ. Get out and vote. Go to ACLJ.org. If you can support our work financially, that would be great. ACLJ.org. We'll talk to you tomorrow.