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DOJ Fights Against Trump Special Master

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September 9, 2022 1:51 pm

DOJ Fights Against Trump Special Master

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September 9, 2022 1:51 pm

Yesterday, Biden's Department of Justice (DOJ) appealed federal Judge Aileen Cannon's ruling ordering a special master review of material seized by the FBI in the raid on President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence. The DOJ is also seeking to resume their review of the documents seized - which they stopped at the judge's order. Jay, Jordan, and the Sekulow team discuss this and more today on Sekulow.

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Breaking news today of secularist Department of Justice is fighting against the Trump special master they filed their notice of appeal also be joined by Rick rebel cyber attack against Albania by the Islamic Republic of Iran giving you informed and now will document here. One is you got a motion for partial stay that would the District Court judge on specific walk through both of these good a motion as well to appeal the entire a judge's decision order at a District Court appointing a special master. It's called the 11th circuit's.

This happened kind of simultaneously little bit misleading right the first paragraph by the justice presents.

If the court does not grant a stay by next Thursday. The government intends to seek relief from the 11th circuit, but obviously here they are seeking relief from the 11th circuit.

That's a challenge to the entire judge's order. This District Court a filing is specific to 100 documents that they believe that they want their investigative team to still be able to utilize a doubt the best safety of the national security team to be able to utilize. So here's where the compass dueling court filing.

So here's my thing again come down so convoluted yet so in the motion for partial stay. They say that specifically the government seeks a stay to enjoin the further review and use of criminal investigative purposes of records burn classification market recover.

Pursuant to court authorized search warrant and requires the government to disclose those records to a special master for review. Then the bed. That motion from the government says the government respectfully request that the court rule on this motion promptly think the court doesn't grant a stay by Thursday September peeping 715 the government and seek relief from the 11th circuit met with her, telling the judge. While they've already filed a motion seeking relief from 11 circuit they've already filed a application notice of appeal. This one says notice is hereby given that the United States of America dependently, but matter, this is Donald J Trumper's United States appeals, the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th circuit from an order of the District Court entered on September 5, 2022.

Documentary 64 so they have already appealed you this is again a bit confusing as so we want to get calls on this. So if you got questions about where the stands right now because you know the one hand, the investigative investigation basically come to a halt based off the district court judges order. This fact today at next. Today they were trying to put forward who are who would you like to have service special masters must be coming from both DOJ and the Trump legal team. I said I didn't see why this kid is confusing just talking through it briefly for a walk you through it all bit more on the broadcast would take your phone calls on and what hundred 684 31, Ted. That's what he hundred 684-3110. To me it's this Department of Justice and especially the FBI they've Artie had to disclose. They've disabled the documents twice, but they again they they realize with the special master it takes it out of their control and they know, like that and there's also some look, here's what's so fascinating to me about this based specified that there are only seeking this kind of special stay for 100 documents that are made you to be classified now these documents a new been gone for a period of time almost year and 1/2.

So here's an interesting dilemma or interesting comment.

What is it in those hundred documents that they're so concerned about that.

They waited a year and 1/2 to do all this and are these for the hundred documents that we know of at least two instances where the district court said the the department justice sent the information to the investigators even that was mostly controlled by the tainting meeting to put all of this and that kind of context what that what is it that the government try to do the same with you. Don't order our way really quick to file the notice of appeal. By the way, we filed a notice of appeal, the same day, rifled through take your phone calls, 1-800-684-3110 at 2000 684-3110. Let me encourage you to go over to ACLJ action as well.

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Click the thumbs up, but that helps it. The show will be served more folks so click thumbs up. If you watch on YouTube of your rubble. Click that. Plus, but of course on Facebook you could share the broadcast with your friends and family. So walking through those three platforms for you. Try to bring more people and say understand this news, which is not getting these mainstream media organ cable visited to that likely would it's pops up here there because of what we the Queens death, but to be at to be a gift to be honest with you we want you to make sure you know. But there's tapping our country what's going on right here as it impacts behavior all watch very closely. This is again procedural but then a full appeal on a procedural decision. I said let's go to the phone that is questions, and already what he hundred 684-3110 Desiree in Virginia online.

What he does right on media director. Thanks doubt that at the beginning Jordan and even talking about it like a intentional mass confusion taking advantage of America's like effect that we don't know such legally I think it's it's again, they did not didn't want to highlight this, that's for sure that that's the that's the issue that they they love highlighting when they can with the special master came out leaking. No info about what they have the documents which was on the Washington Post. That's where they want you to focus on Desiree. They want you to focus on the foot that it is since Foti picture is a set up this picture it in my larder that made it look like the papers researched through the monster all over the floor that was there. They did that is neither did that was not how they found it.

So here's what is this yet is it early and I don't want you folks so they file a was called a motion for partial stay pending appeal to single only as it relates 100 documents want those release that we can get them to the various agencies and also get them to me. Investigative judges Artie said no to businesses. I'm going back to the judge with a warning that if you don't do this judge will grant the state. We passed by September 15. Next Thursday we're going to seek relief from the 11th circuit then when they fail to tell the judge with the judgeis on the Dimino will eventually number is not publicly it's probably the district court as well.

Here is the notice of appeal.

So on the same day they actually notice is hereby given, the United States of America intends to have filed an appeal to Nancy Scorpio for the 11th circuit is not the intent to seek relief they have filed a motion was there like the government allowed to do it. It just goes that none of the skiers the defect on the fact that the tainting shared information with the investigative team which was, not what they're supposed to do. So when it goes to the taint team and its privilege that's posting a separate category separate team.

Nobody looks at it, it's done that's not what happened here at least two incidents and we know that the investigative team ended up with the tainting material and that government offered no explanation as to why that happened.

None yet where it when he hundred 684 30 wanted to talk to us on air. That's what he hundred 68431. What is the Army it's interesting to point out to add some of the DOJ filing which again I think points to this idea of either stay the computer people rapidly just read this the intelligence views page 3 of the, the intelligence community's review and assessment cannot be readily segregated from the department justice and FBI's activities in connection with the ongoing criminal investigation and uncertainty regarding the bounds of the court order its implication for the activities.

The FBI's cause. The intelligence community that's a bit bizarre. Also, because the initial order from the judge was idle to impact your intelligence review which does not impact a criminal prosecution. You're saying that Stu intertwined, which again are we in the problem of to be the same people they value your same job.

Your your hundreds and credits only for John doing the judge is concerned about his everybody involved investigators in tainting same division of the FBI so that obviously that creates the problem is not being fixed here so I think what you have. I mean is that's waiting the judge is right. Special master special master decide this lesson.

The special master may decide that the stop is privilege or is it this is an adjudication of the final aspect of the case for taking a cause and this one a number 684-3110 800-684-3110. As Jordan said you watching on YouTube. We want to hit the thumbs up. That's really important because WordPress want to see it get shared a lot if you're on rubble hit plus that's all you have to do. And if you're on Facebook. Of course, hit share which a lot of you are christened your ship is going up in all the platforms when going take another call we get on Edit in North Carolina online to hand it, everyone has already handled everything.

Being a client attorney-client trailblazer document battered, amplified, or whenever it already and again in 2010 that everyone has been handled in Alabama or that their handbag picture handout stop that Kincaid material white record is Donald Trump is on his course is that the speed he's got the appointment of a special master, but you point out some this very important and I want to read from page 3 of the government's brief in this for the city said the intelligence community's review and assessment can influence at this moment, all cannot be readily segregated from the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of investigation activities in connection with the ongoing criminal investigation. Here's my one asked myself why, why can't the intelligence community who doesn't have the authority to bring a criminal charge. Review the data. The judge said the judge, they can go and compute sinew to determine their their intelligence review of what this means to our allies.

What this means, with the documents. Why can't they do that and the answer is self-evident answer and that is is because it's the same groups doing everything we at the same groups doing everything you can have an issue and that's exactly what you have here yet and so folks I give you what he could to take her phone calls on this continue the discussion. What he hundred 684-3110.

The joy since 1-800-684-3110 the same with the review and assessment read from the brief on their own, are not sufficient to address and fully mitigate any national security risk presented the intelligence community's review and assessment cannot be readily segregated again from the DOJ or FBI's activity in connection with an ongoing criminal investigation and uncertainty regarding the bounds of the court-ordered and subrogation implications for the activities of the FBI has caused the intelligence community, in consultation with DOJ to pause temporarily. It's critical work. Don't pause your critical work. The judge didn't say positive critical work you're saying it's the same people so you can segregated. That's the problem, and that's why they filed this motion so something in this process has gone amiss in the judge caught up really soon as judge got a lot of criticism but you what you got to get the department justice admitted in briefs that the tainting hadn't given documents to the investigator position to hat and then provided no evidence that they corrected the procedure so now DOJ's erotic reckoning if you don't do this by September 15 judge. We are going to be 11th circuit which you, by the way, the left arm already filed its motion for reviewed notice of appeal to the 11th circuit had as much going on here shenanigans.

I hate to say it with that is actually what Don on Facebook receiving the garbage is making up their own rules to suit her needs. These filing this say you have until that next week and then filing sale. By the way, were also appealing.

Everything you've decides to this whole discussion about how this is impeding our Intel and that that's all really uncertain about now we know that's not true. They are scared of most hassle master, yet they don't want a specimen that is abundantly clear. They do not want SMS conflicts with her court filing state that date.

In the days. Their biggest issue they've got.

Here's they don't want somebody looking over their shoulder, which means it's not about the Intel security review right which I've always thought again. You would think the Intel security would already know what this was right, they arty know what's what's their horse out there what's out there and and how serious that is of threat or security. All of this going back to the fact that you know this is two years in so how much with Ray could actually be that that is the second point. Because where were they.

Two years ago.

Why would they got there. Again the the search warrant dated and executed immediately. I believe that this is all reeks.

The whole time and then when you have these court filings that start not making sense together. That doesn't make judges happy either. They not like that at and you don't it would, but we do have interesting questions on where we go next to Joe on YouTube. Voted to secure this report it.

Here is what you could so it's going to be 11th circuit.

So the next stop would be trying to get a stay if they lose training estate from the Supreme Court. I think I will try that, the circuit justice, however, is Clarence Thomas, who is had a look at the justice of forming these actions like Brett Cavanaugh does little suspect of poetry is what we want to do is take your calls.

A lot of the discussed one 800 684 31 tenure reaction. All this is a beeping about the elections coming up any of the government the middle of all this 800-684-3110 and also working up.have any economist who enjoys the time of his appeal little bit about what happened in Britain as well.

If you're watching on any of your social media is made a huge difference by the way, if you're on rumble hit plus sex can get up in the feed. If you're on Facebook and share want to do that now and appear on YouTube. Thumbs up, thumbs up doubled since we have to do what we like you to do that. If you haven't done it thumbs up on YouTube. Plus sign on rumble and tear on to secularity your phone calls. I don't again when we get into these legal matters involve the special master and a double court filing one to specifically challenge the the halts on the investigative side because a safe if the health investigator side. They can also do the intelligence side, they said, you know, the judge would have until next week until they filing a motion with the 11th circuit appealing, but then they did file a motion to answer appealing the judge's entire order so the special master entirely.

That also got filed so I will take your calls at 164 3110 feet of questions about where this stands and where it goes next night.

Any accomplishing account for the ACLJ showing is any assignment I find it ironic that the government and their motion for partial stay they don't want those hundred documents reviewed by the special master, that's for sure, they say in there that hey if a judge tribunal grant. The state was by Thursday, September 15. We intend to seek relief from the 11th circuit and at the very same time. In another document they filed a notice of appeal to the 11th circuit already sent me. I really think this judge is not can figure this out me that's kind of disingenuous. I think the judge is stupid.

I mean, you file a motion to enjoin the disclosure of the documents to the investigative staff and to the special master you don't want them in your safe, you don't. Do you not do what we tell you to do by September 15 for going up the appeal. So now or before the 11 I guess were before the 11th circuit and before the District Court. At the same time is an interesting state of affairs. Know what we technically did cases been docketed as a note of an appeal, but they still have this motion for stay pending at the District Court but you know any here from trying to figure out the judge pointed out in the in the District Court when I thought this was fascinating in the initial or September 5.

The door to incidences, at least where the tainting gate documents that were privileged to the investigator sections of happened.

She said what they did intentionally or inadvertently done matter because it taken no corrective steps to fix it.

Now they're saying we can't do an intelligence review.if if you had the special master in place. Even though you've allowed us to review those documents with the intelligence from you because it's so intertwined with the Department of Justice and the FBI which tells me, and she's acknowledges the judgment in the order that's because it's coming out of the same group in the same division. But you know they could do a separate intelligent assessment of these documents absolutely could. This is exactly what the FBI was trying to do to make separate and set intelligence and terror determinations and to present to compartmentalize those and cassette and to separate them out if they wanted to do that, but they're making it more of a complex situation than it really is and and really threatening this judge. You know, if you don't do what we say were going to do them are going to file an appeal and I file the appeals you got an appeal docketed in order also being the other, the 11th circuit of the same time and of opposition to the appointment of a special master. The government is playing it all on all different directions in all different ways and is being really in my view, not really truthful with the court as to what this filter team can do so. Phones 1-800-684-3110 if you got questions on this, which again we want to work you through.

We pledge this whole process will work you through the step-by-step because I get immediate is that of the mainstream media cable is does have the time to walk through the way we can ID and South Dakota online to Haiti. All went on out there. I don't want to forget that on plot against this man's name was mentioned and what it really is not against tenant, against all of us Americans my voice and then the plague five times twice to Afghanistan, and I feel like they're fighting for my thing and ripped apart when you see this being constantly constantly battered by our own tax dollars. Their pain pretty good guilty against him for child government agency coming against him with my tax dollars. What happened to Hillary Clinton. What happened hundred 91. They had dated FBI agent that was the assistant Special Agent in charge of the DC field office decided that investigations and going virtually buried it. That's what happened on that one and that guys now no longer there. What happened on the Hillary Clinton investigation was a determined there was no culpability or criminal intent on Donald Trump when they decide they can bring everything he got. One time, and we are now within the 60 days of the general, the midterm elections. What you think and politically. Her door now that I think it is only this helps know it.

It doesn't I think it's all it set again. It's for the left. It gives them ammo to just go another. They compile on and it can be distracting.

It's legally it is distracting and you never know when they finish a leak another photo file another photo that is also misleading. There's a lot of opportunities here. This is the probably the FBI right now. If they get back into the power seat. Here they are temporarily out of power significant back into the power seat. We have seen their strategy already for this specific case, what is you you come up with phony photos so that the place was real. The papers are real but the way they were. They looked like they set a seed in the scene was that was incorrect. That was there St. was out out down even walk into that office and was papers all of the forward top-secret file folders that was part of what the moment, they don't like something a District Court judge does procedurally delete to the Washington Post, so they are following a very similar seventh floor FBI strategy that we see before which is concerning, and why we have to be on this. Every step of the way any what is your thoughts about the fact that they did leak this, you know, supposedly nuclear information about a document to the Washington Post and only could come in handy if ARL announces JI think that's outrageous. I mean it you know it's like you said earlier on, didn't like it he gave it to a friend is to link these people linked directly to the Washington but that's an outrageous thing to do to give it to the media, especially the liberal left-wing media slam President Trump over the head with it, or to try to do that.

In any event, but the leakage itself should be investigated as a criminal act and a violation of the law and obstruction of justice was over you and occasions like that should be national security applications are any quickly hear the Queen passed away after we wrapped we got beer but there is already a new king of England, King Charles III and the Queen's counsel, which is what the lawyers were called at the highest level, there are now referred to as King's counsel. That's right, everybody who was a QC is now AKC and the Queen Elizabeth the egg second Elizabethan age has come to a close. This is a long rain, a rate of 70 years. It began with a young monarch 25 years old and in all prime minister Lucia who adored her and whom she respected and held in awe and reverence. And it reminds me of an event that occurred almost 100 years earlier when Queen Victoria in her 30s ascended the throne in Britain and her mentor was Lord Melbourne who was about the age of Churchill, the analogies between the Victorian age. And the second Elizabethan age can go on forever England has moved from an agent's move from an age of austerity under the liberal of the labor government, then the Winston Churchill came over and took over back in the Tories and Queen Elizabeth brought in this new glorious age which ended two days ago and one thing that you mentioned Jay that I think is very important.

The sense of duty of this monarch. She stayed alive to welcome in her new prime minister was something that was only 48 hours before she passed my folks were taken one minute break. If you're watching on Facebook eulogy share.

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Take your calls at 1-800-684-3110 when we come back from the break at 800-684-3110 back with more including your calls and comments. Of course, get this, stenosis media ACLJ for decades ACLJ's been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work become a member today ACLJ keeping you informed and now is Jordan secular secular second broadcast. If you would join us on the air 100 3110 in the second Empire rejoin the recruit now because there has been a Iranian cyber attack on a NATO ally. One way that he works closely with in Albania. I so with the ramifications they've cut off diplomatic relations.

Was it mean for NATO was a beaver article 5 of NATO which you would say that there's an attack on another NATO Allied's attack on all response by all but this is that New World were operating in is a cyber attack crossover into that does do we need to look it up, potentially making changes there. I because we knew that we know that's where new warfare is going. I think will be a guesstimate site to why Albania and what what what what was about Albania differently that that diplomatic relations with Iran and is a predominantly Muslim country and has been modernizing a lot, so maybe it's that issue may be such that they are allied with NATO. But what about that with Rick Lily's dueling court filings by the Department of Justice at bizarrely because you read one filing the thinking this is the filing until next week. If the judge decides not to allow them to continue to review the hundred or so classified documents which is been put on hold for investigative purposes.

Then they said they were to file next week appeal to the 11th circuit except they Artie filed the appeal to 1130 entirely challenging the appointment of a special master in total right so they got dueling documents that are inconsistent, like when they filed their motion briefs in the initial part of this case.

When they said things like our our investigation we've Artie reviewed all the documents on page 29 and page 30 it says where the process of of completing a review of the documents. This what they're doing and that's is where it hurts them in the process, the government.

We also need to say this member can talk more about that would include a lot of things a lot of moving issues today. Obviously, let me say something else.

We've had an unbelievable response to ACL, Jack and I we had some good wins. By the way right up front and we had a nice Wednesday in South Dakota on a constitutional member that Elyse will be clear what people know their voting on enshrining the right to abortion their concentration. Hopefully that goes down the peak now that it's clear what it is.

Guesstimate was written before was not buying it even make it to that they may get the signatures right to summary signatures there to do the balance of the signatures. This would appear this will appear in November as a proposed ballot. Vivid ended. If you they don't they think enough signatures would be the jet the next general election services good.

That's a good moment.

Yet now we've got another major development involving the Department of Education.

George give you details on this. We had an unbelievable response. This is exactly what the reason why we created ACL you want to put together tools for you throughout through the website ACLJackson.org where you can really get involved.

The grassroots level and so this time is the Department of Education going outside the legislative process using the rulemaking process tried to make pro-life speech equivalent to harassment under title IX of the of the department education. Note under title IX. For instance, if you are pregnant and you are at your own educator to search for kindergarten goes all the way through the upper levels of college. Anyone who takes any kind of federal funding at all. Is this applies to that which we know why this protections for women who are perpetrated in the weather there the workforce or students, but now it says that you that if you also after that say protection for someone who was terminating a pregnancy that one again has a lot of questions about where this causes trouble you could imagine two places one if someone who is planning to term.

A prcis may not even know was pregnant. If you're pro-life and using pro-life speech have you now committed harassment under title IX under their proposal. We think you would've. And so that's 12. There are universities that are more conservative and are more pro-life of the do take some federal funds dataset be that having a pro-life viewpoint. Again they be subject to these harassment's so we want you to file a comment with the department education that may sound hard, but we made it easy for you ACLJackson.org the right to the homepage. See take action click on that button. We have it pretty prewritten for you, but we want to add a few of your own sentences to it and then submit and you'll actually get an email back from the department of education notifying you that they've received your submission 9500 people done so already early 9580 were only 420 way from hitting 2000 you're on the ACLJ. Bellis is also in your inbox and check it out that way. ACLJackson right now back to secular joy never survive the policy reformer acting Rector Rick regaled Rick an interesting development in one because were all watching the Iran nuclear deals. All this plays into special it's a NATO ally but also you got this expertise with our babies. With a lot of time there and so the Albania government who had diplomatic relations with Iran. Also, NATO members has severed those diplomatic relations because of a cyber attack by the Iranian the Islamic Republic of Iran and that there their leadership is command said we absolutely believe it's Iran that is responsible for this. I did the first question people would have is Iran in Albania.

Why would they choose from all for maybe even the list of NATO allies and maybe that's a reason. Maybe they are a and easier NATO ally to go after. Why pick a fight with Albania and Jordan. As you know, I have traveled to the region and the Balkan region quite a bit and I know Prime Minister Iran I know him well worked very closely with him during the coast of Serbia negotiation and Albania was very important.

I Albania is a Muslim majority nation and a NATO ally and so it is important to understand that I think Iran healed angry that you've got countries like Turkey and Albania who are NATO members who are not siding with them but who are siding with the left and of course they should side with the left are members of NATO and so I think the actions of eating around the prime minister have been very strong not spoken to him since all of that that gone down and they were very firm they wanted the West to stand with them. I think he would clear I had okay when they kicked out the Iranian diplomat. I think it's a really good mood and hopefully this will push NATO to do more and do more aggressively when it comes to cyber attacks.

We all want NATO to rise to the occasion to confront the current threat that we face in one of the threats that we clearly are taking it topical time. You know attack and was attacked on all his cyber threat. Cyber warfare covered right now it is.

I think there's been a lot of criticism that NATO is not aggressive enough of that proactive enough.

The current threat by fiber, but we need to be.

There's been a question to have NATO do more when it comes to cyber attack currently in the top administration. When we talked about with warming NATO to rise to the level of today's threat. You know that threats are changing every decade. There seems to be a new type of threat letter at the non-after nation's rat but now were moving into cyber threats which can just be someone in the basement or they can be a whole plan of attack from Russia or North Korea or indicate Iran turned her attention to the director of national intelligence and also pursue investor German unit will classify documents as the sole legal kerfuffle going on with that between the former President in the United States, justice, and today or yesterday, the Department of Justice filed in a motion for a stay pending appeal, which means they want while the case is being up if they appeal the case they want the government being allowed to continue its investigative review of the records that were the judge said I want that stopped. She did say that the national security apparatus couldn't continue to review those documents, but not the criminal Department of Justice aspect the government comes back and says a judge revealed changes by the 15th of the month were going to file the notice of appeal and at the same time. By the way they filed a notice of appeal so that was a little disingenuous. Okay, but the judge said that national security assessment of these documents can be evaluated. The FBI department. Justice comes back and says oh no we can't do that because there to intertwine. Now Rick you are the director of national intelligence, and I know little bit about the stew for my work over the last several years the intelligence community can do its own assessment, which is not a criminal context, separate from the department justice question about that. Let let be really clear day. Department of Justice doesn't want outside scrutiny and outline 1/3 party. They don't want an independent agent. The government once again they blur the government. We are empty that get to decide and no one should contradict us and we don't want to see or hear any dissenting information difficult happening at DOJ and and I have to say when you read the U.S. Constitution. The only thing that that comes up a in my mind immediately under an out of control DOJ an executive branch where is Congress, the legislative branch needs And do something and control what is happening and and obviously the judiciary is independent and doing what they can do but we need to have a balance of power. That's exactly what makes America great. And right now I'm very concerned as to what's happening. This is also very there key course of that the midterm elections coming up to Stacy's primaries come to a close and they they really focusing on on trying to eat one unites conservatives together around you can if you're traveling all over the country. Could you give people I can update to just what you feel the ground because were hearing that you know things are tightening in that that's pretty normal in politics and things get tighter as you get the actual candidates chosen people got a maybe backed other candidates in primaries you gotta go to that unity process and that's very important what he what are you sitting on the ground as you travel the country from the West Coast East Coast. I'm all over for the conservative candidate for the Republican candidate in trying to help them and I think you you get it right at the unity method, gotta unify.

We got so many different types of candidate that one of the primary and their still hard hard feeling there's no hurt feelings going on what I think we have to be able to do is recognize that now going to be a choice selection between two type of candidate going to be one with the worldview that the very well and very left and the other that not so we can have the half assignment. We can talk about what let you know our strategies are in the primary and pick our favorite candidate, but at the end of the day.

After that, we need to recognize what you're up against and and who could come in as the leader like to take a pennant race.

You may not want you gay. You may not have wanted Blake Masters in Arizona Blake one and it now going to be a choice between Mark Kelly and Blake Masters we can go through all the state and recognize the choices that are in front of us is bigger picture stiff everybody listening and every case is you know to what when it comes to really getting done since of items especially putting a stop to some, this just out of control and what we see the house but how important the these branch of government to become both the House and the Senate can become when you have a hostile administration and right now they've got full control we see what's what it's like an opportunity here to change that, but it does Rick like you said, people gotta get over the hurt feelings and eyes edit politics is is tough.

And when you engage EF to realize sometimes your chosen candidate doesn't win. But you got someone on your side of the aisle that you probably agree with at least 90% with and that she should go for. You gotta get you gotta come together at that point I will obviously deal with them on the more we get half the the racing get a little more time. I think we also need to just begin the focus on the choice in November, and this is what the heart of the hard part about primaries is that you have real intent feeling but again I think focusing on the choice in November will get people to understand that in all an 80% trend 75% trend packet even a 50% trend any better.

This is the part we have to go from practically works the primary process try to get the candidate you want through you gotta start making practical decision that they removed further further away from that on both sides. The IC you know what state you live in. You might have to make choices that you don't love right but still what you take part Rick what you take part. We all were to be involved and because a few not if you stay at home. The other side wins and that's just one other point that you know the winter have a responsibility to winter have the responsibility to reach out and to be magnanimous and say I need everybody involved and become part of that difficult losing that that is actually true and you want it to be Keegan Fraser here that kind of message from a BK that you did back to the primary essay that we want you on the team cub. Come join us that that's her message.

Thanks, Rick.

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Go start with I would go with the order of phone calls and for this, the final statement will start with Bernice Washington state online. One Bernice under the impression that former President to carry current only receive intelligence reports on foreign and domestic issues on the documents where interlock security area and on Secret Service has coverage care. I would imagine even if the President isn't there simply because he's a former President. So what would be the issue and why would it be so damaging sure that Democrats want to impeach and not impeach back so the issue is that that the location which was the presence Florida residents was not a secured skull. The skips nonsecured intelligence area is a another Secret Service down there. That's one the second legal issue is the government is alleging these are documents that belong to the United States in the Presidential record-keeping acts and under the national archives authority and are not the President's own property may raise that again. In this motion for partial stay that they they filed yesterday so you got that dispute and this would be going on for months and months and months so I don't know enough not involved in is I don't know what was in the motivating factor but that's what that is the legal issue and then you got what happens to those documents and that's where the raid took place to get the documents out of the possession of the former President into the possession of the federal government. The federal government says it's right where it belongs, but they're trying to review what may be privileged what may be personal and that's where the whole kerfuffle is taken place legally right now over that issue.

I thank you for your phone highly is great because her questions Bobby California on might succeed Bob Bobby there looks like Bob may not be there isolate silence provide to Roger, a California online five hey Roger, I thank you for taking my call. Submit a letter along to an amount of a regular listener. I just happened to be channel surfing a letter because today good. Now I happen to hear some of the discussions on the confidential materials with Myla ago and I haven't really heard this drastically.

I want to get your take on it. I was I'm a retired naval officer at the 2040s in the Navy. One of my tours of duty was as confidential materials custodian for one of our warships yet and we would we would pick up the material under armed guard and I take to secure lock call on that you not handle that stuff with fear and trembling, and it was it was common knowledge. You know that you screwed up your going to jail and and if if I were to ever have taken that stuff home I still be locked up and I just want to get your perspective from angle.

It seems like the know that that's doesn't belong. The presidency government Senate should be should follow the law weren't were a nation of laws and anything was above the law course and get your take on the 24 years service in the Navy would really appreciate that, except for freedom. We appreciate that the difference between you, of course, as a naval officer in the present United States while he was present was he's the commander-in-chief unit have authority to declassify anything the President has plenary and absolute authority to declassify anything and everything and I got any lovely time at any moment while he's serving an officer there's little question that when this took place in all that with regard to the secure location. Look, I mean if you took sensitive documents the President often would take documents to the residence and every President's done that to reviewing the evening that were secure documents that was apparently part of his regular practice, so the difference is out. And by the way, it doesn't mean that the document should've been down in Malabo cannot getting to the bottom line of that I'm not this I'm not making an opinion on that. I don't like the way the thing is been handled procedurally but I'm not going to get into the document should've been there or not. I don't know what's in these documents, but the difference was your naval officer. This is the platform of resident states who when he had the documents taken root was reviewing the document was actually the present United States. Initially and that's where the document comes in, then it's really a question of the Presidential records act yet because I think I think courts are very pretty weary to dive straight into this classification process because when it comes to present it comes to other officials there. They have processes they gotta follow.

But when the becomes the present, the classification process was actually created for the present United States and again they have this power.

While there present to declassify this is a question about what could you reclassify me I you know this gets into that question about is a court going to really step in and hear criminal case over what is more like a dispute between executive agencies right is not even touched is that even Congress and the executive. There are 282.

A branch of government. Here it's a dispute within the executive branch of the government over over the President's power to declassify what it needs what and and and the legal testing which you may or may never ever happen right about the idea that we all believe is in the present to declassify whatever they want, however they want. It is always a bender. There's a process to do that that mean, let's be clear, there is a process, but it is absolute. I mean, I guess the question came in on American YouTube would DOJ be open to a contempt of court ruling if they don't comply with the judge's ruling while peeling. I think the answer that is yes is very.

This is why this is so bizarre and the judge gave him leeway on the national security assessment was they say they can't even do so yeah and and and and if they did anymore.

The sharing of documents.

Yes, I think contempt proceedings could be brought so there you go with me.

Another: Joe North Carolina online to a job and thank you for taking my call. I was wondering do you all know that judges on the 11th circuit and if you do anything they would rule on the appeal that been submitted with the D-Link. I mean I know a number the judges on the 11th circuit and some of the man worked on the confirmations.

If you depend on the panel you get. I think you need to be not readily desiring Jordan to overturn a discretionary decision by the trial court that yes that's important for that is the Court of Appeals not trial trial court and so when these decisions are made by this court judge over to a special master the art have issues with the documents not being reviewed by the wrong people. There's a lot of deference there, so that's a lot to overcome. For the DOJ already.

Secondarily to that. Let's say they don't that if they don't get a good penalty is 11th circuit want to take this this report that that's circuit Judge Justice is is is Justice Thomas, who yet, I think probably as heavy as this is this is a get this, the trial court decision, but you never know well and you can't you can't guess now we are interesting, and rubble not respected can President from go ahead and bounce this to the Supreme Court of Desi have to wait for something out of the loan circuit will here's what's interesting President from one so he's not the talent he's the appellee. The policy limits and want to move this up so they they go. Let's say they go to the judge does initially stay, they go to the 11th circuit 11th circuit doesn't issue a stay, it will be the Department of Justice taking the appeal set up position for a first for or an application for a stay in a proceeding is called to the Supreme Court that will start with the circuit Justice Justice Thomas, we can then refer to the rest he denied himself or referred to the rest of the court groomsmen, this time on this today because I know this is confusing but is important for you to understand what's going on here when the country you know this is important stuff.

This is about ultimately killing present United States. This is about procedural part of that again folks. I want to encourage Graciela Jack should not are really 275 submissions away to thousand comments and part of education and just about 48 hours so I encourage you go to ACL. Jack should take action for life


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