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Schumer Threatens to go Nuclear If He Doesn’t Get His Way

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January 4, 2022 12:00 pm

In an open letter to fellow Senators, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has threatened to get rid of the filibuster in the Senate. He wrote, "We must ask ourselves: if the right to vote is the cornerstone of our democracy, then how can we in good conscience allow for a situation in which the Republican Party can debate and pass voter suppression laws at the State level with only a simple majority vote, but not allow the United States Senate to do the same?" Jay, Jordan and the rest of the Sekulow team discuss Schumer's open letter and whether there's any substance behind his threat. This and more today on Sekulow.

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Now Sharon post, call one 800-6843 11 secular structure very divided US hybrid cast by the vice President is the letter writing campaign to his colleagues sent one before Christmas dear colleague letter to the Democrat Senators at odds would read a piece of it. The second page or two page letter. I would ask you to consider this question. If the right to vote is the cornerstone of our democracy and how could we had good conscious allow for situation in which the Republican Party can debate and pass voter suppression laws at the state level with only a simple majority vote. That is because of state legislatures have their own rules about voting, but not allow the United States.

It to do the same if Senate Republicans continue to abuse the filibuster and prevent the body from considering this bill.

The Senate will then consider changes to any rules which prevent us from debating and reaching final conclusion on import legislation. He is say let's get rid of the filibuster, not just for voting rights legislation for anything.

Democrats deem important which you would think is most of the legislation if they were considering it so I would also include not just voting rights bill back better, which we did not have to go through reconciliation, which means they can put as much pork in it for Job answered as he likes that could sit and for all the other Democrat Senators to make sure that you get to 50. It puts it in a different situation up US senators on both sides of the aisle are all over the place on the filibuster. It's been abolished for judicial bodies.

It was first abolished by Democrats for all judicial bodies, except for the Supreme Court, Republicans came in and said you know what, if you can stop art obvious this report were abolishing for this report diabetes. This would be the next move to get rid of it for legislation to but it's a big step. They will still so they have a legislative filibuster, which is that standing in taking up the time, but when you're at work.

The beginning of a new year that sucker work for more than a few days right so this is this again. I think you've to watch Superman should very closely sitter cinema very closely will send the past into what changes to the filibuster. There was a second letter by Chuck Schumer trying to tie this to January 6.

You try to tie to Martin Luther King Day in the legislation.

The voting rights legislation has no text, so there is no text that but here's what I think everybody needs to be concerned with. They are so committed to getting billed back better in place which includes of course all of those issues involving the Internal Revenue Service. The 80,000 new agents. The billions and billions and billions were $80 billion of revenue so that that would include also that provision about checking your balances our transactions over $600 or in the aggregate $10,000, although that would be in there and there would be no stopping Outlook. There is nothing in the Constitution that says there has to be filibuster filibuster is not a constitutional requirement of the Constitution says that the Senate sets the rule there rules. That's what the Constitution says so anyone real sense here. There is no constitutional mandate for filibuster.

Well, there is no constitutional mandate for filibuster.

It is an internal Senate operating procedure, but it's what distinguishes the Senate from the house. The house everything goes by a simple majority. The idea is that the Senate is the premier legislative and deliberative body in the world and that means that it takes its time and the legislation that made by popular consent be popping up in the House of Representatives. The brakes are put on that in the Senate and it deliberates in the debates and that's what distinguishes the Senate from the house and that's why you need to keep it the way it is and has historically been interesting because in his second letter.

This was written odds yesterday to see the colors says the suit was designed to protect the political rights of the minority in the chamber to the promise of debate an opportunity to amend legislative filibuster.

The minority has no protections at all. It's, it's, whoever has a simple majority to pass whatever they want. So if the Senate wants to become just a mini version of the house they could do that under the rules, but it takes away that whole guys are somehow different and above normal political movement and the team boils over, but it doesn't spill because the challenges facing Americans are substantial time and or value freedom and sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ is on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms than remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member.

Thank you. Not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission life will show you how you are personally and publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right question for you, mission life today online ACLJ/secular trigger for cause as well. 1-800-684-3110 because it's not just about voting rights legislation is anything that they would deem important legislation hope that if the citizens take up legislation. It's all important so they would be getting rid of the filibuster entirely doubt that may work for Democrats for a year and 1/2. But what happens if what's predicted to happen politically, they lose the house they lose the Senate and if they lose the White House they got no check. They can have you know I again enough to prevent getting a 60 vote threshold. There's no check anymore on any legislation that Republicans want to do but I hear there's an important part here when you have an eight piece of legislation on voting rights that has no text yet they I think they're balancing.

Yes, this may be a mess for us later on other legislation, but we can change the rules of the game in our favor and override all the work Republicans of God at the state level II winning state legislature district to make that a priority so that when it's time to redistrict after census there and control.

They spent the resources to do that it would to the voters to do that they would override that and that to them is politically more important than what piece of legislation in the future, Republicans might be impressed.

That's correct. And I think the Democrats are strongly committed to short-term thinking and essentially they are saying pass this law without any tax so we can find out what is Senate Sen. Schumer has announced that the fight for the ballot is as old as the Republic and in some sense he is absolutely correct because it's basically been Democrat who have been fighting free and open voting historically. One needn't remember or forget what the Democrats did in the South after the Civil War, it's all about power. It's not really about the ballot and so they see an opportunity to show this legislation down the throat of the American people and apparently they are willing to take it take advantage of this opportunity. Why because they are focused on the short run, they don't care really about the long-term future of the country. A lot of this journalist was focusing on this and I think Sen. McConnell was now the minority leader is to be majority leader elections have consequences.

He argued that the bills are bid by Democrats to secure an unfair advantage in elections, violate state right so a lot of this is his prelude to what's coming up in the elections and I think we have to be cognizant of the fact that that's what this is. At the end of the day.

That's what this is all about. It's how does this legislation impact the election. That's what they're shooting for here so it's build back better with a lot of other things added to it. When you start getting rid of the legislative filibuster now can they do it say again they can do it with thinking they have the votes. They can do it is nothing in the Constitution mandates a legislative filibuster so they can do it so it's interesting is under skirt set roles need a three force majority change the rules. We can with a simple majority vote change that rule. So the 51 vote, so you will have to have mansion cinema VP. To do this, they have to have complete Democrat unity.

I want to play few his the reporters they went right to mansion this morning because you got Bidens endorsing it now. You have Schumer endorsing it now and so they go to him and he does not take the clear stance that he did last year and saying I oppose change the filibuster. This is a very couched that to me, this is Bob be willing to do it if they could sell me on the legislation. Take this up by 20 oh there's there's there's basically the need for us to protect democracy as we know it and the Senate as it is operated for 232 years are extremely extremely high bars that we must be very careful for blended crosses so I'm talking I'm not agreeing to any of this to the extent I want to talk and see all the options we have open and that's what were looking at.

He could easily say I really filibuster if they want to talk for hours on end and hours on end to give up the floor that's given that the yeti of the talking filibuster, which so he goes to history. He has given a full yes that yet what I consider is that Suboxone first walk voting rights legislation has no impact on his state is say it's an excess of a very it's not a racially diverse state West Virginia so that he's not concerned about what's in there voting rights and how that impacts West Virginia when he's going to be more interested in this. You put a giant spending bill like go back better.

You take out the need for reconciliation because important legislation doesn't require the kid can overcome a filibuster and suddenly you just pylon the port because it doesn't have to go to a parliamentarian process with a sale.

This not budget related. And that's what he's all about 20s, but all about the Sen. is what he can bring back home and I think that puts people like cinnamon plate is a can subtly say look what I did for West Virginia. Look what I did for Arizona because you have to remember there still Democrats support giant government spending. What they didn't like about the reconciliation bill was there wasn't enough spending to take home to their state yet, so let's go ahead and take Roberts: when something daily in Robert. I called for mail and online one secular on their yacht hi Jordan and jail want to ask both of you that you believe that the Joe mansion is one of the keys in terms of getting rid of your filibuster. If they abolish it in the United States Senate and is going to agree to abolish the filibuster. If there's legislation in that the elliptical bill won't get there's legislation of the go back better bill that's going to make it very advantageous for the state of West Virginia believe they can go with "real spending look. I think it would last for weeks and Robert is the motivating factor. A lot of this and it has been by the way, since the founding of the Republic, as Harriet alluded to before, these are not new.

These are not new issues. This is that this is as old as is the is the House and Senate, so that's not any great, let's not be shocked with that that revelation, I think that there are portions of go back better that he is going to go for and I think they make.

I don't often change the name. I know that they're looking at various aspects of or they may pass it piecemeal.

But if they can change the filibuster rule in which they can if they can get the votes went to work. Sen. Cinemas in fact at that point he could probably dictate what that bill is going to be must be realistic. That's absolutely true J and again with Sen. mansion is a week read to rely upon, because he tends to move his position very frequently from one to another. Recently he's been voting like a Republican talking like a Republican getting the praise of Republicans, which in my estimation may cause him now to go the other way around. In the other direction and say oh I'm not. I'm a Democrat and again the prospect of port West Virginia is a great, attractive, luring alternative and that would do in my view, inspire him to vote in favor of abolishing the filibuster. So he is not a person that you can predict is not a person that you can rely upon is a personal, as I said is a week read to put all your back your eggs into that basket of Joe mansion and Cinemas even more weaker in that respect. I think this is the key think they want Jordan.

What is that what I one so I think mansion doesn't really care about the voting he saved to save our democracy sets a voting right next document.

Voting rights. We starts with Eddie say if we are to save our democracy that we provided to change our rules so I think he's okay with the voting rights should be the has very little impact on the state he represents. It's not it's not a diverse state that is not the racial issues it's it's it's have a singular state so he's not concerned about that when he gets to is a God reconciliation version bill back better.

He can add another trillion dollars to with lots of spinning fruits that I don't know if that works for cinema. She's a different state politically but remember this entire the last two months of the bill back better push. She wasn't a no vote.

At least she was on the record.

She wasn't coming out and taking a position it was just mansion so that again. She said in the past, she is opposed to abolishing the filibuster rule 11 just educated everybody for a moment here. It will still have the talking filibuster. So you have the sitters like Ted Cruz, Rampart likely who have gone to the point of having catheters put it to to try and talk through these, but we near the beginning of a legislative year. You can run the clock out. It is not possible so they'll still say oh yeah the old filibuster. The way we intended it to be. It again opens up a can of worms sitters a bit on both sides of the issue, but to me they are looking for. They need some kind of victory. They have the house they have that sated.

They have the White House and they kick anything legislatively physic incubates probation.

If you give them another few billion dollars to submit a West Virginia. I think he supports that legislation and I think this is where you know that the Internet is a serious grace is the consequence of election and who gets elected and who controls the house and the Senate.

This is what happens.

This is a constitutional republic which were in the LAS additional constitutional mandate that there be a filibuster. It's been like any said was the rule so that the House and Senate had a differential such as how long they serve was supposed to be the you know if there's tears over overflowing the top we had the saucer there to protect the volume of the of the of the T doesn't exist anymore because the volume is very high will be back only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally support the publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of weighing 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right to life question free copy of mission life today online/challenges facing Americans is time and are now free to sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades. ACLJ on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress to get in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms than remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ US is all over the place comes to the filibuster so to find hypocrisy for someone like Sen. Schumer very easily just go back to the Senate vote on the corsets nomination that Republicans were the majority, but they have the 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. So because Harry Reid in the Senate at Artie change the rules for all other federal judicial nominees. Republican said you what were changing it were done playing this game changer for the Supreme Court you started it, were finishing it meticulously what Chuck Schumer said then we was begging the Senate not to change the rule by 14 it looks like God.

Corsets will not reach the 60 vote margin. So instead of changing the rules, which is up to Mitch McConnell and the Republican majority why doesn't Pres. Tromp Democrats and Republicans in the Senate sit down and try to come up with a mainstream nominee look when nominee doesn't get 60 votes you shouldn't change the rules. If you change the nominee. The problem with the problems with the whole issue. He's wrong. Constitutionally, Mitch McConnell immediately said right that Mitch McConnell has the authority to do it the constitutionally comes the Supreme Court nominee says that the Pres. shall nominate, and then it gives the Senate with advice and consent so you know that that's the constitutional process. There is no requirement of 68. So I'm not saying that I think people are going speaking out on both sides of the aisle. People come out work and come out against it.

That is been in this part of political debate and look in the way our Constitution set up the Senate does get to decide their own rules. The idea with the filibuster was to get things to settle down to calm down and not spillover. That was the that was the kind of the visual that was created when when this was done but Harry is no question that if there's 50 votes they can change the rule. I think that's correct. I think the example that you just play of Schumer suggest that he is a person who is capable of speaking out of both sides of his mouth simultaneously. Basically, he is quite willing to change the filibuster when it favors him, but the filibuster is really designed to stabilize our Republic.

He doesn't seem to understand that at least on one hand, or on the other hand, he fears being primary by Alexandria O'Connor, Dale Cortes, I went and played can we can juxtapose these two soundbites.

This is Pres. Biden just couple of days ago. This was last week about the filibuster. Okay, actually, let me take a flashback first, okay this is this is then Sen. Joe Biden about changing the filibuster rule. This is where option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power at its core, the filibusters of knots about not about stopping a nominator of Bill. It's about compromise and moderation. That's why the founders put unlimited debate in when you have to find I have never conducted a filibuster, but if I did, the purpose would be you have to deal with me as one Sen. doesn't mean I get my way back to my okay Pres. Biden last week when it came back and regarding build that better not getting through. Because of the filibuster potential. Take a listen. Are you prepared to support fundamental changes in the Senate rules to get this done. Yes, what is that mean that means whatever it takes. Change the Senate rules to accommodate major piece of legislation without requiring 60 votes. This is this is what they have. They have the principal right gets you screaming in 2005 know maybe doesn't remember what he was saying, 2005, or what it was even about, but it was all about. You got a deal with me. You got a deal. It's all about Joe Biden that is present. Dealing with the Senate which everyone does agree with what he wants to do change the rules again as he opens up a totally different sit it for both sides with if Republicans are are the majority to be able to move everything and I can switch back. Here's the thing, what Republicans are shown as you try to pull this we will go the next step, we will say will do this on everything. So if they go this the Harry Reid step. He traded for everything but Supreme Court.

They translate only important legislation whose defining that legislation makes with US and it should be pretty important. At that point you think it's massive spending it's it's been what I what I think is this if they want to become the house become the house with Hernandez the American people don't think they lost a lot of respect for politicians in general.

They've that this sheen they've stayed it out. They pierce the veil of you will their normal people at sub but maybe not so normal about some of that and the truth is that I don't think people would really care but for the fact that they are try to change the rules of voting for the next election, because about the slotted initiative for 23 retirements of the House Nancy Pelosi's God debited this is so there's really anything possible to throw us some kind of hick up or changed and then of course get back to the whole issue because the tribe tied to January 6 where the people it makes voting partners, not who you vote for parts and that's a partisan decision, but the idea of voting partisan are the elections fair. They're saying it's the Republicans are doing voter suppression, but that is not what the courts are said about these laws and they've not been massively overturned Republicans an integrity's with Republicans invested in in writing and state races.

The problem is Democrats are not appealing at the local level so so here's the thing in the eye.

I bring up a midweek. We know that the basis of this is going to be election law issues because as Jordan said, we have it.

The 2022 election season has been whether you like it or not it has begun. So right now what you have is legislation to call the build back better call it whatever you want to change the way elections are conducted in taking power from the states, which is what the Constitution delegates to the federal government that would you litigate that sure but that takes time. So we know what the power grab.

This year it's not like this is an unknown. When he arrived today. This is a federal power grab via the mechanism of undoing and eliminating the filibuster in the Senate by base and when you ultimately look at it what it is is federalized. They were an attempt to federalize the election process because they see the slaughter coming.

They see the troops coming across the prairie, and they see the fact that they're going to lose the house and lose the Senate. This is the Democrats in the upcoming election. So this out that he will will do within the college voter integrity were going to call it voter against voter suppression and were going to take away what is constitutionally given to the states to regulate and that's how elections are conducted safely do it the simple way they say would goodbye eliminating the filibuster yet so realize this.

The two most powerful members of the United States Senate right now are Kristin Cinema of Arizona and Joe mention of West Virginia who have said previously that they opposed it now mentions, waffling on that and as Jordan point out Kristin Cinema's been pretty silent the last month or two. So this is using to decide this is Chuck Schumer it's good to be those two United States Sen. and whatever promises they get there about you and I think if the Odyssey product may be easier to get mansion on this Cinema is out of the political makeup of the state where she cannot just remain silent but will she play the game of life.

Legislative one thing talking filibuster that still survive really changing much of me that this again what it's all about his voting rights. A decisive victory right two weeks they want to do this 30 days. By the way, 13 days of the time you have two weeks the pressure up on the mansion Cinema world for the rewrite voting for decades.

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It's about letters college when I went yesterday, pushing them to abolish the filibuster for quote important deflation that would include voting rights legislation, which is not at S1. The Senate bill, but is it is not written, they would pass that in 13 days by September 17. It will bounce filibuster and pass legislation into the second letter talking about the January 6 and vote on this voting rights Which there is no tax for outages and you don't want to go up and read this text, but there try to tied to our Martin Luther King Day to see what that the optics of this January 6, Martin Luther King Day, then you mansion come out today think we have to defend our democracy is at stake. That seems to me like a vote yes for abolishing the filibuster at a guess on a voting rights bill to get very little effect on his home state what this abolishing the filibuster does open the door. No more reconciliation for Bill back better.

You just need a simple majority, which is you can put as much pork spending as you want in there and the Democrats have don't know you have no public-policy opposition to that.don't forget that mansion is a big spending Democrat, especially the one thing he still has left in common with the Democrat party is he likes to spend federal dollars Cinema she's been silent for a couple months.

I don't think she can remain silent anymore because he's arty signaling a shift to and what I hear from mansion is he signaling a shift to abolish filibuster. This move and where does she stand up. She's in a different state. Politically, Arizona as she doesn't have similar history is mansion. It's a state to go.

You can lose is a Democrat but one of the phones David and Pennsylvania online to hold on David, you're on their identity, yet I will end up in the legislative filibuster one and secondly it seems as though the Democrats can really do whatever they want to be that the system is broken monoamine. The system is not broken. In this sense, I mean that the way the Constitution set up the Senate sets its own rules.

So there is no constitution that I think here's the filibuster is important understand there's nothing in the Constitution. It requires a filibuster just doesn't exist. So it's that's a core rule created by the United States Senate. They have the authority to do that so that's what they did. Now what is it do well in the old days you have to read the in the Washington DC Yellow Pages group.

Anybody remember what the Yellow Pages are. You made a phone book. I made a brief story that was the problem that today that's not the case. The way it works is it that doesn't reach at the 60 vote threshold, a bold about it. This members it just doesn't go forward. But anyway, we do need to be clear that while you note, you can argue about it constitutionally good to happen.

Senate Democrats if they can get their caucus together could do this like the Republicans did not judicial nominees. That's absolutely correct IME.

If they can get their caucus together and the question is what you do is cinema and what you do with mansion.

As I said earlier mansion is a family to rely on an syndrome that has not said anything recently with respect to what her position is there is going to be so I don't know, but the Senate does make its own rules and can abolish the filibuster if it wants to buy the votes of a majority that's simply done that. It will just be the house know no different.

That would be hundred but they won't get one Sen. my Job. I used to say since I was stand up and be heard. Now I will be the case anymore and went on the credit side in this is what always you gotta make it what Wise's different Democrats Republic they don't care about cost sets other party big spending for the federal level.

Just keep adding to it, you can just get their vote taken. Do this for you. You set the way Republicans work. Typically, so while again I think there's two powerboats you one change voting to for the midterm to pass a massive spending that is at transform federal government house doubling the size the IRS getting count Lois letter rule being abolished.

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The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member thanking God's well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about our life-changing work become a member today ACLJ only one.

A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right question free copy of mission life today online/secular to your focus to what hundred 684 31 to shift to new filing at the you're the UN human rights Council by the ACLJ if the submission of this interesting. The question I would talk to Mike Pompeo about it in the next signal broadcast that the submission of the ACLJ on the question whether Israel's conduct, the so-called in the so-called quote passive territory breaches the prohibition under international law against apartheid, so interesting, I thought just point this out.

UN human rights Council spending their time accusing Israelis of being part of it apartheid regime.

Ignoring the genocide in China, ignoring a Russian invasion potential Ukraine ignoring what may happen in Taiwan ignoring so many human rights abuses around the world to focus in on the country of 7 million people, which is their number one target twilight under the trust administration in my tail in the US left the rights right consistency bashes joining us as senior counsel says goodbye and when asked.

I think this is the question that you got ask what in the world is the human rights Council thinking when they say, is the question that can be presented on the floor whether Israel's conduct of its occupation of the Palestinian territories in breach of the prohibition against against apartheid in international and I say that because look at the way they phrase the question they borrow a phrase. What they're going to decide always the problem of the human right. Okay Andy go to you because you and I discussed this before, and obviously we know what this says they phrase the question in such a way that it will be the end result. Yes of course you phrase the question in the way that you want the answer to come out you phrase the question the way the international criminal court did in the case that you handled there you phrase it the way you want to come out so you've already made a decision that Israel is an apartheid state and now you're basically asking for documentation and evidence improve in testimony instead of work to support the conclusion that you've already reached when you use that word apartheid you are saying that it is equivalent to what South Africa was.

That is ridiculous. That is not the case. It is not an apartheid state never is. Never has been, and I don't think ever welding is the freest country in the region in the Middle East more civil liberties than any other country in any of its neighbors in the Middle East and it's a beacon of freedom in the Middle East affect other countries and countries not try to model some of their civil rights on Israel model so this but this this question Wes begs the question begs the answer is like saying okay you know the person is guilty. Now let's have a trial that kind of thing and I read the apartheid convention. The definition of apartheid this morning and if you look at that. It talks about is an attempt to dominate and suppress the people based on their race or ethnicity and in actuality you read through this and is exactly what they're attempting to do to Israel to dominate and suppress the state of Israel. The Jewish state is to skip. We have filed with the UN. Even though this is like Truman said that they it's kind of a faded company where the come out on this the our European Center for Law and Justice, which has nongovernmental organizational real status with the UN filed in this case a response. It's the submission of the ECL J on that question. What did we say that the definition of apartheid requires a racial distinction and that Israel's treatment differential treatment between the Arabs who live in Israel.

The Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and the Arabs elsewhere is not based on race, but is based on security aspects and on citizenship in Israel, the Israeli Arabs which the Palestinians considered a part of the Palestinian community. They are treated exactly like Israelis. They can stand for office. They can be elected to the Knesset. In fact, they are right now. The governing coalition includes an Arab party in the government of Israel, they can serve on the Supreme Court that can do all of these things and they are treated equally. The reason that the Arabs, the Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are treated differently because they're not set the sons of Israel. Every state can treat and differentiate between its citizens and noncitizens plus in the justice you are actually earlier on the show.

The fact that there have been rockets fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel people shooting there is the law of armed conflict actually governs the relationship between Israel and the Arab Palestinians who live in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Because a situation of uneasy war. Uneasy peace exists there. Israel has the right to defend itself and the law of armed conflict gives the rules and those rules allow for disallowing movement of certain people of having checkpoints and so forth. All of the issues that are being cited as proof of our apartheid Israel is treating the Arabs differently based on where they live because of citizenship issues and security issues, and that is the key fundamental here.

It is not based on race, the Arabs in Israel and the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are identically the same racially. We know this firsthand. If you were to ask most Christian Arabs that are living in the region and the one who would they rather see controlling the government. Hamas and Fatah or the Israelis. It's not even a close question coming.

It's not even that they're very I noticed about it.

They know the sovereign's and their glad that that's the sovereign to be under Hamas, nations are absolutely right, and those of the words from the mouth of the Greek Orthodox patriarch of Jerusalem himself who said I know who the sovereign is near and that is Israel. I extended that statement by simply say what if there was a change in that sovereignty move. He said it would be disastrous for the Christian communities. It would be disastrous for the Orthodox Church and even the Latin church in the Middle East because that would mean that the consequences with the elimination of monasteries, elimination of sacred places elimination elimination of the freedom of religion that Israel so jealously and carefully protects the day. The sovereign is Israel. The sovereign must and should remain Israel, not any terrorist organization like Hamas or its surrogate by the UN human rights Council selects the folks of Israel and its neighbors have have begun to drop.

This is a issue that they are kind of sick and tired of the Palestinian Hamas is a terrorist group font tie which is just corrupt. All these billionaire autocrats who don't help their people and so we saw under I get the trust administration. These Abraham accords where in the past we thought there was no way to make an agreement because they support this Palestinian sovereignty would abolish the Jewish state. Now you can fly from Jerusalem to Dubai from the working with other cut all around the golf and those were the major financial backers of the Palestinian resistance. If you will about the Biden administration is, as they have backed away from their their support of Israel and they've also backed away from the support of our Gulf Arab allies who have actually supported usually have new relationships with them. What is happening is our Gulf Arab allies are distrustful United States. They're trying to reach a compromise with the Rand are turning towards China.

All of the games that were made in their trump administration really really built some some unity there between the Arabs and in the Jews. If this is really in the balance here because of the policies of this administration and the work of United Nations and also goes back to the Obama administration got to be honest, it was John Kerry and he always took this position that you know Israel could not be a democratic state, and the Jewish state. It had to be one or the other and this is something he said in April 2014 but John Kerry is still heavily involved in Iran in other aspects of this. Take a listen live. So this places you have to stay for the snow into stasis what can happen and it ignores the reality on the ground that other than the militants. Okay, most Palestinians do not want to live under Hamas rule.

They just don't absolutely do not.

We have been there. I have been there seven times I have spoken with Palestinians that are content with the existence of the Israeli state is the sovereign in the region and the ruling body.

They can use the courts they can use all the municipal facilities they can run for office.

They can BNR in the Knesset they can do all these things. That's not to be the case if a terrorist organization would take over control the Supreme Court often side of the Israeli Supreme Court often side with this is so this is not such a nap and sound I heard conservative governing party in Israel.

The coalition partners which gave them the authority to govern is the air party first time in history, the air party, his joy Jewish political parties joy Jewish far right Jewish political parties because even though not opposed to equal human rights treatment for their Arab citizens, fellow citizens and welcome them to join the political coalition is a good step is a step away from only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying with the American Center for Law and Justice defend the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the worship ministry and what Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership is empowering the right question free copy of mission life today online/challenges facing Americans is time and are now free to start constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms than remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ issue at the UN evolving Israel art for secondary state, senior counsel for global affairs of my company is joining us now at 60 Pompeo Savino in March, UN human rights Council.

The special rapporteur's were to present a report we can imagine. Already with this report will read like to the human rights Council quote whether Israel's conduct of its occupation of the Palestinian territory is in breach of the prohibition against apartheid in international law at knowing that's the UN.

It seems to me it's a foregone conclusion about what that rapid towards fighting will be but for ignoring the human rights abuses by China.

The potential invasion of Ukraine by Russia and all these other issues, rather will they focus on the country of 7 billion so tiresome and so be and so morally inappropriate, even heart that really think one's way through even the language door never of that the company can write, and evaluate whether there occupation right that the one that's that that's assuming the conclusion Israel is in fact not occupying this land is Israeli land the Jewish home can pilot director starts with the idea that what you can evaluate the occupation after dark, clear wheat we worked for a time with the human rights Council trying get in a better place will we concluded this was a corrupt organization with characters like Uranian than the benefit that he got it.

We want to be a part of it that we left it trump ministration. Biden is rejoined an institution that UN human rights Council. It is going to declare that I'm one of America's best allies and nation that did not always recognize that the noble and Democratic and important to our security interest and are very space here in United States.

The them apartheid wheat. We know that's not true. It's factually incorrect that the UN work.

Likely to issue a report saying that the human rights. The well cheer and give who thought that report might read this Jay wheat sent in our submission because even though we know the conclusion is that the cakes baked already. We know that's can be the way it is because that's when always is with them.

We decided that we can still get on record what we think about the legal position is under international law, but also with the right position is, but I want to say this, I have never seen and I've been involved in this for many many decades. 40 years the amount of progress that was made in the Middle East by your administration.

When it came to the introduction, the recognition of the Abraham Accords and the UN ignores as if that change of relationship hasn't happened and we we started with the central premise that words can accept things that they were we working to wash them away. Luckily, that Hamas was going to be, fellow organization we work at the college really democratic government weekly work, and I wish that Uranian fourth largest state-sponsored terror in the wall we were going to go deliver peace against the backdrop of the Middle Eastern reality where you have medical states that have come to see that the Palestinians in either of the plight of the Gaza Strip or where the Palestinians but I will today. It's about making peace within the we could see that the same goal state Israel was rightfully the homeland of the Jewish people. So we built on the central understanding to create the capacity for these nations to prosper and have peace in the UN just left that out because they have a leftist corrupt Outlook on this and so the continued about resolutions against the Israeli why we should still continue to fight what the ACLJ had done. There is noble and important create the factual record about what Israel really does feel a lot, but I looked up apartheid this morning as I was getting ready to have a conversation with you all at Merriam-Webster and it says persons are denied the capacity to exert their political rights by occupying officer holding certain jobs is that the delay definition paragraph, but it is not true. And I think you gonna run roughshod over that part of the political read. Col. Smith is with us as our military list of the site you said the same thing you look it up to you mean this if anything the human rights Council is committing apartheid in a form of against the state of Israel by the inquiry itself.

An attempt to dominate and suppress today though if it up to see if the US does a thing about this is a US step in, but we seem as secretary Pompeo these unfortunate but extra truth, the more progressive the Democratic Party becomes what comes with that on the foreign-policy level is a extreme anti-Israel position and have a very pro-calcium even pro-Hamas position which we seem start creeping into the Democratic Party. It does really blend in and you can become part of the Democrat party have not only become dropbox that become deeply added that it can't be guided for sure and wheat. We know the history of this placement is not the first country to recognize Israel. We know this history know there can be people on quickly. On the far left and the far right. Where anti-Semitism seeks and then the real damage that UN human rights Council that the use the cloak of that fancy name that sounds so noble to behave in a way that ultimately creates the risk of increased anti-Semitism across the world. This is a dangerous thinker for American security dangerous for Jews.

United States and in Europe. We need to defend that spoke loudly from the most senior levels of the government and all across the ACLJ is an important part of making that happen yesterday marked the two-year anniversary since the United States took out some money and I want talk about the significance of that as the United States.

Also yesterday went back to the negotiating table, in the end of your thoughts on all this while in the political and personal for me. You would've thing to pregnant right if he and Ayatollah both called for the fascination of me and that Pres. Trump would never President to senior former American officials and nationstate with operatives around the world and conduct assassination campaign threatening to former senior American officials.

We may delight the vision we saved American lives by defending American striking against Gen. somebody. I would recommend it to the President again on company would make the same decision for them on that same day two-year anniversary at any time to be negotiating with the theocratic to cut a deal with them to give them more money right in the end of the day what you think they could become wealthy engage in commerce to get them the resources of the body about the nuclear program The missile program and to continue the conduct terror campaigns across the across the world is really quite shocking senior transfer global affairs for suggesting my company was always secretary thank you for joining us all that insight again. And what does the electromagnet what's going on domestically a lot was for policy and sometimes when we get overwhelmed with domestic issues like over right now all these issues back to school.

People start forgetting what's going on internationally. A start, the Russian issues back know it's dealing with the Chinese issue with the genocide about the host Olympics. It may be covert change that but this is why we always want to bring all these experts, like the former secretary of state, who made the call and advise the President to take out the head of Iran's terror operations, knowing full well that that would impact the not just as a nation. Personally, because you got Iran's leaders calling for the cessation of them.

That includes victory Pompeo so that is a decision very real decisions that this current administration. This runs roughshod over this.

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