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October 27, 2021 1:00 pm

Manchin: IRS Spying On Bank Accounts is "Screwed Up"

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October 27, 2021 1:00 pm

Senator Joe Manchin has publicly spoken out against the IRS plan that will allow the agency to snoop on millions of American bank accounts. Jordan and the rest of the Sekulow team discuss what these new statements by Senator Manchin mean for the sweeping budget reconciliation package currently before Congress. This and more today on Sekulow .

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Your key center comes out in opposition to the Democrats IRS talk about that keeping you informed and now this is this conversation somehow got screwed up when I said that if it's $10,000.

Okay that's next on the $800 a year and I said you understand how much stuff that is think of Uncle Sam you want to try and what he does for bankers and this and that we want to hear from you, Sharon poster, call 1-800-684-3110 what happened cannot happen is now your Jordan secular secular to your phone calls were 31 said that is suited her Job answered he would have to key Democrat vote to move forward with this $3.5 trillion reconciliation package any kind of infrastructure bill and he has now publicly said he came out to the President directly at said IRS plan.

I don't know who wrote this. This is wrong, but we understand this is the IRS Snoopy plans the player that you offer.

Additionally in order for every $600 transaction.

There was an aggregate of $2000 in transactions tried to get you off the ideal where you think well about writing about a $2000 checks or make a lot of single type, $2000 transactions that somehow the law works. It's an aggregate so we've now heard from sitter to match it at this is get fan I know every time we hear from sitter. Eventually we will. I kind of wanted to do today. I'm the reason why would a focus in is because now we have a Democrat who's come out publicly in opposition to this a vote that they must have in Washington DC to move anything for so I yield significant but we have to keep watching because what they try to keep taking that number up to get people off guard about it. This is a huge Potential power grab. He does he mention to the fact that to go along with this to make this work for them." They would be 80,000 new IRS agents during this is a hugely significant development. I would just say right off the bat.

This is a testament to the ACLJ members who engage on this and allowed waving the idea not just that it is a senator.

I know still mansion is been at the center of this debate for a long time.

You cannot afford to lose a vote in the United States Senate. After the Democrats and he has now said he will not go along with the snooping provision in your and I think the thing that makes this even more significant is he said this directly to the President of the United States and what did he say the President responded to him is anything stated that the present responded to them.

I think Joe is correct on this door and I don't know if you're Democrats how you back away from Joe mansion and Joe Biden now be on the record that this is a bad idea to give the IRS this authority and endured. I know this is a little bit behind the scenes, but if this provision comes out of this bill. Democrats have a major problem because they have promised that they are."" Pay for all the spending that they do in this bill Jordan.

You and I know that pay for it are never actually real. However this is that none of money to replace if this provision comes out of the bill. They've got a big problem.

Pulling this package together. This is responsive what they said of the estimated like $7 trillion to get to me. It's if they feel feel like there's this issue where there is a tax gap of this people underreporting in deep habits make it easier continue to simplify the process.

People will live as they love to say. Therefore pay their fair share, make it easier you what you do every that's to the point that where you do if you got significant transactions moving but you deftly would be.

By this, your pay people to prepare taxes to to take all that responsibility because of the how complicated it is and you just try to comply with the law.

We what they did with the Nazis are trying to treat. Basically, American people like criminals without without saying that, but that's how usually take you have to get a court order.

You access to so would to some is basic, especially for these low amounts. These these are not triggering a boarding treatment $2000 in your account over a year, not triggering anything in your bank is not like it's not like a bizarre transaction came up to get the phone call we we froze your cards right out did you make that charge. That's our target retirement 25, 27 bucks a day and have access to your tire How significant how important you believe this is gives call one 864 30.

What did we need to seize on this moment build the grassroots pressure. We have a petition up@aclj.org cited today will be right back.

The challenges facing Americans with little or no freedom or constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress. In the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member.

Thank you. Not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of weighing 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is powering the right question for copy of mission life today online ACLJ/secular figure focus to what hundred 684 30. What did those right away because I think dad is hundred BC. It is important point. Why were Seizing on this day to put the pressure a day welcome to secular you're on the air. Thanks for taking my call this real quick. I say I want to Joe mansion joint and we got permission because he wrote it down party line grew and grew and the Democrat. That's why we're here, and he does the same thing every election time just says what the people of West Virginia want to hear and then the students you collected either party man through and through. So I got a treatment like Reagan always used to say trust but verify. After election time comes and he stick into a garden and is able to stand up, then maybe I'll believe it but until then you know I just don't buy what this guys putting out there in front of this is to be said that if she predictably hears at match is not up for reelection for another four years. If you decide to read again that I don't know that he will but that's kind of a moot point. The difference I think where we have Joe mansion that was it. He is he is not just like a single opposition to it idea that ultimately his vote can't stop anything now his vote is the vote that is that is most key is support is mostly so I do think he wield more power they may have in the past. I do agree with that. I think he's usually been a reliable party by Democrat vote at the end of the day by complaint he might go kind of settled love doing this but this is what we have to do it. It always some excuse to get there but I think where is his power and it is his ability to affect change has is significantly altered.

In this it you agree that your MA maybe let me start with a couple agreements I had with Danny. First of all what he suggested about how Joe mansion operates.

That has borne out some this year and many voted with Democrats to advance of the voting rights legislation the quote unquote voting rights legislation. After saying he opposed the federal takeover Jordan that enabled Democrats to get on that bill and enable all sorts of dangerous things that we talked about to to have a chance on the Senate floor, anything dance correct on that. The other thing a jury must say that Sen. mansion gets everything he wants in this reconciliation price process and the price.

The price tag comes down to $1.5 trillion, which is still an enormous sum Jordan. We haven't even been able to spend time on the dozens and dozens of hugely problematic provisions that would still be inside that bill. May we can do that later in the broadcast I think Dan's correct on that you might have an atmospheric of him winning a concession when you still have largely a problematic bill, but all of that said Jordan. Here's the reality.

To defeat this IRS snooping provision. You know we need we need Joe mansion.

So despite the fact that I don't trust him on a number of provisions. I still need him to do the right thing when he goes down to the White House and talks to the President and the result of that conversation that we have today. Yes, we have to hold both their feet to the fire, but Jordan were in a better position today and we were yesterday because of that conversation yesterday that we post just to be he was my dad's it's a rare Facebook account. You 90,000 likes that the couple hours. We have 90,000 almost 90,000 you are petition I could you sign the petition ACLJ.or the petition out. We really, it's a grassroots show they would take your phone calls at one 800 684 30 went to the petition is stopped by the IRS from spying on your bank account ACLJI.org I think you what gets mixed all this out. Let's play saffron so eventually it will play his response to the question regarding that event because he eat keys. The most important aspect was how to fax you the individual ticket was prolonged this conversation Alma, who somehow got screwed up when I said I think I will start looking.

$600 transactions, even if it's $10,000 okay that's that's only 800 $900 a year and I said you understand how messed up that is think of Uncle Sam watching Trenton what it does for bankers and this and that talking optimistic person. I don't know what happened. This cannot happen is screwed up purchase for the bakers to be happy she's being lobbied by lots of different interests, crisp anti-at the end of the day where he does even go is that to do this so they keep Francis's revenue neutral. You know they can get 7 trillion back over a decade, but they need $87 billion up front and 80,000 new bureaucrats will never build a fire so eight so base your creating it.

It's like another IRS yes you are Jordan, you're absolutely correct you your creating another army and then it's a militia. Believe me, the IRS is a military organization I worked in the United States attorney's office and I can tell you the eye of the FBI's not fear the Postal Service and inspectors are not feared.

ATF is not feared. The Bureau of the immigrations and customs is not fear what people fear what we as assistant US attorneys. Was the Internal Revenue Service and the enormous power that the IRS agents both revenue agents and the special agents in the criminal division have and as my colleague was saying earlier was Smith when they as you revenue regular right reveille regulations, revenue rulings that have the force of law.

You can contest these these are just like statutes so what you're doing is you're building another army of 80 to 87,000 employees in the United States to spy on you and as you said Jordan. You can't get rid of them.

Once these IRS agents are in place and once they're out there doing the bidding of the Internal Revenue Service, you're stuck with them and they're going to be looking at transactions in your bank account which is going to aggregate 10,000 a year as Harry Hutchison said we spent about $1400 a month on food that's $10,000 a year. The average families going to spend on grocery bags, you will be subject to an audit. Just because you're living Harry working towards Caesar were people do spend every they spit on travel holiday travel. They spit it it it's not like this is a certain kind of transaction is any kind of transaction triggers this so I like it. He said they were talking about the reason why the opposition we have to be clear with to seize on every moment we can is because this is this is so dangerous. We have fought the IRS at the ACLJ directly. Like Katie said it, it is the worst we clear with clear people out.

They felt like they've they've lost their power. That's a good thing. I think it the end of the trumpet ministries we simplified some of the tax principle fights of the deduction filing, making it somewhat easier for people.

I think that's the way that that if you want real reform.

You'll need to add 80,000 people. We talked, but that have just a postcard make the taxes make the tax for these but the danger here is a we were pressed to get at is that it got to this point. The idea that this is that this would be okay, that we would accept this and now the American people speak yet we have we have cigarettes and speaking out. This is something I be.

It's a power graphic.

We haven't seen before.

Absolutely. So the American people need to rise up after all if you look at this particular IRS proposal. Essentially, the IRS will be married will be monitoring your expenditures on heat clothing and food basics. So the only individuals who will escape scrutiny by that the IRS are either homeless or their dad. So I think at the end of the day.

We should ensure that this IRS proposal is dead on arrival. Why this is what you your phone calls to Rob in Wyoming on light three if you want to talk to us on air galactitol saved. I think the audits of the grassroots. The energy here outside the petition ACLJ.or get involved in the broadcast one 800 684 30. What did you watch a large share with your friends and family.

Hey Rob, welcome to secular you're the good morning how you doing good well I own a business time and not cut up the oil business. We we kill of asphalt that I have about 14 plants around the country and I can tell you just put in the with the current state but there's a lot of them are shutting down the toilet skyrocketing. Now you can add this on top but I think what you got to see that I know will probably do it. People are going to withdraw their money from the banks because they are in major fear of what the IRS is going to try to do to you and they'll start spending cash like they did in the 1930s to pay for everything that's going to be a major challenge for the banks to come up with that kind of money to pay everybody out the back. I see how they can do it because all the money that the land that houses every thing out when you come up with the demand for your money and some people have tyrant funds, and so on. It's gonna hurt a lot of people with this we are to get a deal with massive shakeups to our economy, we see crypto currency receipts. All of these new ways, new places to put your your your body, or attempt to hold body or to invest that they haven't quite figured out a people still try to figure out you have been down because it was expurgated that field, but would like you said like on top of it.

We have I think that you pitch this to consider matching picture that I think that's probably where his is made opposition to this grassroots opposition and then there's the the baking opposition to soak your banks in these associations for these banks that their post is the burned out, there would be tremendous in the course they have to shift that cost back to the consumer, yet incredibly opposed to adorn everyone from the big banks to the small community bankers to the credit unions.

They've all weighed in universally oppose it as they agree with Rob. By the way, I think they think a lot of their customers would go away because they would be willing to comply Jordan.

If that happens, I mean DD trickle down a devastating impact on the economy hugely significant huge evidence of folks, this is actually about an what I saw sooner matches habits yesterday as it will take today shallots.

Keep to you to build on this. Continue to educate people about the real threat this poses that God's week of every go through this is this is real and you gotta fight back if The victim was good ACLJ that work signed the petition will be right back only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally and the publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is powering the right question for economy mission life today online/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now free to start constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms event remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.where you can learn more about her life changing from a member today ACLJ secularizing between Hong Kong that the Congress party of China, forcing banks to report clients a suspect violated so-called national security law used to silence its citizens at Washington. The Democrats are try to weapon eyes the IRS despite your bank account. This is been a constant picture that our country since the founding of the IRS and the income taxes that that date its bid. It's too much of a temptation to utilize in politics and I we see the idea of this on both sides. The before the Watergate years the idea of the bureaucracy their pushback. There we saw the tea party groups be targeted that we represented did they were being encouraged to do that by the U.S. Senate by members of Congress, the writing letters to the IRS so you need to go after these grassroots organizations and citizens.

These were again, they worked, what after the ACLJ's of the world who have what we got lots of lies that we have lives outside for the organization they were going after small citizen groups.

The idea here $10,000 award transactions in the year that set about going after billionaires is that it will after billionaires go after people make $400,000 year.

That's good. After 40 to 50% of the people they think this will impact make under $50,000 year that is going after people who don't have the resources to defend themselves against the IRS intrusion. They don't have a team of lawyers. This is not that the big companies. The big organization or billionaires or billionaires or give people make $500,000 warrior. This is to go after people don't have the resources to fight the IRS who don't have the the account.

It's don't have who thought that they were complied with the law try to comply with the rules, the game but that you'll West this gets it's it's it's a heartland it's it's it's it's it's giving the federal government away and without them having to go to court that I did make a case about why they needed to get into your account and we know we can't trust these entities.

We know that that this would just be.

I can't even imagine giving the IRS another 80,000 employees where this all comes at a time when our trust in the federal government by the average American, as is at an all-time low and there's a reason why the Internal Revenue Service is the most distrusted department in the nation that's with good reason. They have targeted Christians and conservative groups that have been caught doing that, had to admit that there is little oversight and control the tax code is so large and complicated till actually it doesn't allow for any meaningful oversight not meaningful oversight and as I mentioned no to any of their administrative rules they put in place have the force of law without any input from our elected representatives virtually and so you if you like, you know and and a large federal government, and then you want to enlarge the IRS. This bills for you, but I think if we don't rein in the Internal Revenue Service and these proposals in this crazy bill this before Congress.

We will need to apologize to King George I and for the big big revolution because when we were revolting against his own tax policy for the American colonies. This is a federal government that already. It is out of control, but these proposals by the Democrats in Congress would make it even more out of control and as you mentioned Jordan wouldn't just be your targeting corporations and rich people. It would be targeting virtually every American in the country. This is you know we we keep talking about the heat small amount of transactions we know what people think any of the idea units 10,000 hours.

It's not a single 2000 transactions. By the way would still spare a lobby if they were just going that, though it would stare millions or billions. Americans at this but this is an aggregate this is by coffee. This is Philip your car with gas.

This is not yet the base just make some tremendous expenditure. I'm glad you pointed that out to Jordan we already have on the books, a $10,000 space transaction reporting requirement that was put in place two years ago. Decades ago, don't confuse that with this post. That was to catch people were trying to launder drug money who were dealing in cash and banks have to report transactions in cash either deposits or are taking withdrawals of $10,000 or more and those have to be reported.

That's not what this is. CTR reporting is not what this is. This is creating a situation where as Harry Hutchison said only the home is in the debtor exam. Everybody who uses a bank account is going to spend and flow through that bank account $27 a day hundred dollars a month, $10,000 a year and you and you're going to have an army on army of IRS agents looking at every single transaction you make in a bank account. In other words, I am predicting that the IRS is going to be moving its offices from where it is right now downtown Washington near the capital, the Pentagon, because that's what they basically are creating is another branch of the military having it's one thing at their when we work with the tea party groups and these again targeting organizations, small silence this again. I believe another attempt to say to make you think twice before you make a political donation make you think twice before making a donation maybe groups like ours because you know in the aggregate. Again, you don't have to make a lot of major donations every go up talking to an audience I don't.

People who are these generous people who support God.

Prophets who support the church who support the community groups who probably supports a political candidates put that together here.

I bet your spending close this about easily a lot of your your your giving.

If you're that situation were able to do that and you might even realize you put altogether because it's it might be come from different places at different things and we put it all together using either the specialty but your mortgage your writ car payment.

This is this is again would stare every American, including especially specifically Americans who are not can have the resources to fight back. So you whether this if if the IRS really is a problem with this tax Effector $7 trillion out there and I realized that they should be taking it through the global test to simplify the tax code, make it easier for people to pay their taxes, then you don't need to add 80,000 people that that we were living the age of artificial intelligence.

It take tech. Why do you need 80,000 more bureaucrats we can ever fire we put on the payroll of the US government so you get into this rickety picture phone calls. Second, FI was covered up, one 800 684 31 two that's what 100 684-3110. Let me let me tell you about two things before we go to the tax break first filing today with the Supreme Court in the Texas abortion case are brief from the ACLJ that was just on Fridays at this reported out that we file Wednesday. The oral argument is about is on Monday at Taira the air, but they will be analyzing at oral argument.

So I get that is a key brief to be filed get that up@aclj.org as soon as it's filed with the court. At least by tomorrow, but it'll be filed that this afternoon to the ACL. Jake are representing you there make your voice heard for life in this first of two major cases. November 1, December 1, both ill at the Supreme Court. This body of focus on this issue which is so key to all of us.

So again I would provide you were filing today. In that case of the ACLJ is busy.

There are a second front to this news is just break right before without air.

Another issue key to all of us is that that Iran has announced they're going back to the table for the nuclear talks of rejoining the negotiation of the details yet on US what the Biden administration paid errata, what assets they may have unfrozen secretary prepares to be joyous tomorrow.

The broadcast will deftly begin to get that second half hour to afford that goose breaks that as well and continue take your phone possibly hundred 684 30 what to remember we have a petition directly on this to stop by thy rest from spying on your bank account for future ministry as well. ACLJ.org site petition. They will decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member.

Thank you.

If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org or you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ keeping you informed anything.

Now, this is Jordan secular secularity or focus to what hundred 684 30 what to replace. Just in case your joyous you just where the broadcast. We talked with his IRS provision of this get it is basically that is a bailout of the IRS. It is it's it's like re-creating another for a new federal bureaucracies breathing this new light into basically the are 80,000 new employees. It would take to enforce a law which would allow the IRS to go into your bank account if you spend $2000 you or as sitter Roy Blunt was talking after Missouri that if you have if you're you're working your income just those trade that transaction. So from your employer to your bank account so most of you if you're working your deposit your paycheck in the year you deftly make you more than $2000 deposit more than that.

That's a transaction for purposes of the law and that the understanding of how the provision was written.

So at first they wanted to be $600 to basically get out this week that would encompass everything but then they so I will make it $10,000 a year. That's basically safe that six of those month units of this idea that they would have access this way. It's not just you know it it's not it's not just a kind of a bogeyman were talking about here we go back to Bennett because they had this a provision we would we be pouting that the paper this would build the grassroots opposition to it.

Educating people about it that we have a Democrat sitter. Job answered say he's very opposed to a plaintiff people the moment it's it's a time to seize because they were try to use this to pay for $7 trillion of their bill. Yeah, I'm in looking at was transparent when secretary Yellen was asked about this provision, and whether or not she thought there was an appropriate level for it to be at your and I am not, by the way, I'd I think there's no appropriate level for this. Even if you raise that threshold to a huge number. This is just not the appropriate power to get the IRS but what did she say she said will look at wages are going to be exempt of the Jordan we we've dispelled that a number of ways you dispelled by saying if money comes in and it's gonna go out and that would trigger provide an audit of your entire account but look a little bit deeper into sweat secretary Yellen said she said there are two main goals for this provision. The first one. Jordan is that they would uncover opaque inns income sources that frequently avoid scrutiny in the second goal Jordan is what you just said to raise revenue so put those two tuning things together.

What a secretary Yellen trying to do she's trying to find income allegedly that has not been reported to raise revenue to pay for this massive $3.5 trillion spending bill.

So when you hear secretary Yellen or Pres. Biden or anybody else say that wages are exempt. Jordan you have to go another day, another level deeper. Maybe they will exempt the W did the, the, the wages from your salary when it comes, and they won't exempt the expenditure. They also want exempt small business revenue.

Other revenue that comes in, that would trigger this provision and secretary Yellen admitted it in the statement that she put out, and I think this they will interpret this as broadly as possible. If you have this power over to the IRS.

Should I can get the power back you're creating 80,000 out 80,000 new federal bureaucratic enforcement positions, costing $87 billion.

But don't worry it will pay itself back because they can fight all these taxes are out there is but this is stupid provision. It's a way to get inside everyone's bank account in the United States of America without having a court because a federal court in the affectionate case, why don't you should be this year's show cause they would not be showing because they just you would be a buyer transaction soleplate surveys we come back. Restarting your phone calls we come back to one 800 684 30 what Ted, let me just writing to five today the Texas abortion case that the US Supreme Court on Monday. The oral argument, the briefs are due today will be filing that and that'll be up@aclj.org so I would her to check that out as well. I indicated to contracting the Iran issue. Iran's, has announced their rejoining the nuclear talks next month.

There's not more info than that. Right now I was appropriate that the US divided ministration, sit anybody unfreeze the acid rod. We haven't got the details yet, but Iran has made this announcement so way to becoming spots back what hundred 6430. What if you want to talk to so there will grade back the challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now in freedoms or constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. Not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the emotion industry and what Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership in the ACLJ is powering the right question free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/save you a lot of people audit people are calling it right excellent start with Sandy into the seat, said he thinks the whole dog. You are the air and PayPal are wonderful. Iran I think they can.

One corner paint style. When I called you on hold to talk to type out my name and type honeycomb elected in the confirmation letter telling me that name Wade and garnishing our payment we received from you found the department had energy Yellen for the quarter around quarter to say they are already prospecting and weight as well. Taking more than hundred and 80 gain from the mail ran to an IRS representative is equated and their solutions are still antiquated to be if they really do believe there's a somebody out there that is, whether it's too complicated of a system for people to start filing correctly. It's that much $7 trillion you need 80,000 new employees or maybe you should figure out a better system were taught of the system the easier system instead of allowing the individuals who have biases this kind of unfettered access visa you this. This is because this is like deputizing 80,000 new people at as law enforcement and what they get that access what you give Washington access like this could be in serious trouble. I would just so to call you and who thinks we are not be accurate. Bob Theodore get online three Hale-Bopp to your odd secular all on you know what I wanted to briefly share the yes I believe that there is a little bit of hyperbole going on here. My background is that God work through the IRS or 28 years tenant that is a tax expert specializing in chronic complex tax law in the last 15 as a senior field collector for the Internal Revenue Service, so I know what you're talking about. I agree with some of it but I believe that there's a little bit on pot hyperbole here where where is the hyperbole while the hyperbole.

First of all is you know what it what I'm hearing is that there is really desire to vilify the Internal Revenue Service and I would point out that the Internal Revenue Service is the most efficient federal agency in existence and also look the most heavily regulated being overly critical of people like you who works these agencies are 20 years out in the field doing your job. You're working hard you try to follow the rules. This is Washington DC IRS. This catlike headquarters that IRS and the ideas that I think we vilify the IRS because they deserve it. I don't is not hyperbole with any court.

They got caught going after organizations because their political views and they still were doing it last year. Last year they did it because all your Christian group that must be your Republican group, but the date that the term Republican they they made their own. Your term sheet and they use the D to represent Republican try to confuse you with the text they are, they have been shown to be bad actors about say it's all over really sought lowest letter tried to blames the Cincinnati field office and really try to blame the people like Monte who work out the field who actually tried to do the job.

But it's the Washington DC actors who set that set the rules of the game that the be on the lookout list add, that is, who were concerned about. I don't think it's the F is catlike with the issues you have the FBI had a Kobe with the seventh floor. It was the FBI agents out the field. It was Washington DC I want to say to Monty went when I was in the US attorney's office. I worked with IRS revenue agency ID agents and they were some of the finest people that I have ever worked with. And they are very good at what they do. What we are saying is the legislation that the Democrats are pushing right now is not that it's not aimed at attacking how good an IRS revenue agent is it is to keep the federal government through the IRS from looking at how we spend our money. That's our business, how we spend our money if we want to give it to the Communist Party if we want to give it the conservative causes. If you want to give it to the Democrats and the Republicans.

If you want to give it to our church is our business. This simply weapon eyes is the Internal Revenue Service and make some another agency of the federal government spying and snooping on what we do and you said about efficiency.

Be careful. Monty, when you were so use the word efficiency. The access was very efficient guiding so this is I get the idea. Here, Harry II think that the pressure point turn upset people work inside try to enforce the rules or try to do their job and Katie said, but this is from wash from we have seen time after time again problems with the IRS issues of the IRS, especially in Washington DC and they being pushed by your house numbers and Senate members to go after people because their political views.

In fact, that they wanted to. With the in these this new law reset the stage so you could go after people because they put their political views precisely so. The focus of today's discussion and the focus of the IRS provision in the so-called reconciliation bill is on policy. It is bad policy. So when did Joe Biden campaigned on a promise to spy on virtually every transaction that all Americans make when did Joe Biden campaigned on a promise to impose. For instance, a carbon tax in the midst of an energy and inflation crisis with gas prices surging to roughly 8 dollars per gallon in California, so the Democrats are basically engaged in an opportunity to grab even more power they claim. On one hand they are going after the rich, the reality is that they are going after the middle class because if you look at all of the provisions in this reconciliation bill. The Democrats are prepared to give $222 billion to rich Americans as a subsidy for buying electric cars. Meantime there demanding that individuals who spend more than $834 per month. They need to report essentially to the IRS and so Janet Yellen who is worth upwards of $20 million, herself, is now claiming this provision is necessary. Why is it necessary because in many respects, the Democrats want to squeeze the middle and upper middle-class whilst bearing the rich of actually paying their taxes we should keep in mind that Warren Buffett who is one of the richest people in the United States pays virtually nothing intact and he is prepared to never pay taxes. Why because he's putting his money in a charitable trust fund and that will escape the taxes that he would otherwise owe. So at the end of the day the rich know how to manipulate the system. The Democrats, which there are a party that is strongly supported by the rich, they are basically in my opinion, going after the middle and upper middle class.

Kevin Colorado I like to take a look at the secular euro. There may, I work in compliance for an additional perspective and the second Lasky right that that that that is the other part of this the lessons that the baking industry. I think this is it, how it helps.

We have the big big industry and you have grassroots support for Americans exit much tougher for the pasties provision through 19 banks. Just today, the Wall Street Journal reported that of Kaman line and on the record and saying they are against this little I remember the words of Ronald Reagan who said you know the government is not the answer to your problem.

The government is the problem and get this bill. This reconciliation bill expands the federal government in ways unheard-of in US history. It also expands the IRS and it certainly you know expands the socialistic policies of the left-wing people in Congress that will be forever dependent on the government also forever controlled by the government to function Québec try to save it's coming up, go to ACLJ.org recur to decide the petition online.

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I don't get up, but we see the abuses have recent abuse to go to court, the left party the right agencies are full of Democrats. There 90+ percent. Individuals who vote for the Democrat candidates give political fundraising so those are just the fact that we had to deal with. That's okay. This is only one.

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Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ life so I would take what the cause have again that I get and he's a really good question because they had the because career was what is actually caustic because the ideas that oh this is this is revenue neutral. The sexy pays for itself, but on the front end. They want 80+ billion dollars to pay for these 80,000 new IRS agents is a little best case scenario. First, your name and they said they wanted a $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill and then a 1.2 bipartisan infrastructure bill sets almost $5 billion of cost. Now then they will come back to you and say what you just said that is can be revenue neutral and the organ to raise money to court." Pay for all that spending, so it's not gonna cost the taxpayers anything will Jordan. Okay, let's let's let's consider that idea if you're going to raise money by collecting additional tax dollars from the American people is that costing the American people anything where you getting those additional dollars you're getting them from the American taxpayers are all you are saying is you're going to try to raise taxes or increase revenue from the American people at an equivalent level that you would do spinning Jordan. It doesn't change one red cent. How much of this is paid for by the American people. So as it sits right now these two bills together would be $4.7 trillion, and here's the other little secret.

I put on top of it. Once these programs make their way into federal law Jordan. They almost never go away and number two, they almost always grow at one 864 favoritism never let me encourage you, though, if you really call it a baby request a Facebook periscope where the file save really beats me more time on this. Obviously we got this momentum.

I think we have to seize at this moment out of place intervention for you. This is why we were trying that again today CMH was that I and media. Washington DC gets asked the question.

Here's his response this conversation Alma, who somehow got screwed up when I said I think I will start looking. $600 transaction even if it's $10,000. Okay that's on the $800 a year and I said you understand how messed up that is thinking & watching Trenton what it is for bankers and this and that, after the pessimistic person I don't know what happened. This cannot happen is screwed up. This seems like he's not good for this provision is always at their vacuous intervention but but if we can we kill this provision, the other we can move on to the rest of how horrible a lot of these provisions are this thought they had but that that is again we can go through the list and start going through the list but I figure we got pick off these piece by piece, yet I think this is probably the most egregious door and I really didn't mean in the wake of the IRS targeting scandal.

The very last thing that you should be doing is giving them more authority, especially sleeping authority like this. Look, I don't like a lot of what is in this building like you Jordan, I you kinda have to take Joe mansions temperature day by day. I mean look is not in the right place and the voting rights bill after coming out in an op-ed in a wash at West Virginia paper and saying that he was opposed to getting the filibuster and opposed to the federal takeover elections are like two weeks later Jordan.

He flip-flopped on that. So I'm not saying walk away from this, but I do love the fact that he got Pres. Biden on the record, I think the hope here in Washington DC Jordan we seen this before. The hope was that this provision would be lumped into a huge bill. It would be passed in the middle of it. Nobody would notice and only after the fact. Would people object.

Jordan people have objected and I have the present United States and a vote in the United States and at that they absolutely have to have saying they won't support it with an inner that's a huge step in the right direction guys at the keg again. If this is if this is allowed to go and the euro to add this kind of power to the bureaucracy at a time with the trust to govern slow I would see this is the IRS this the typist to stop provisions like this and it's a divided Congress right now if we can get that one vote we can release it at least kill this provision provide to the retina. If we can as I and as we know, Joe mentioned tends to be a somewhat flip-flopping in his views and his and his ideas.

He says one thing and then he votes you know for call for cloture and so he doesn't do the things that you expect them to do even though he predicts that he will and he says that he will and asserts that is what is on record right now is telling the President of the United States that this is and I'm looking at of this is screwed up and then he indicated that Biden agreed, saying I think Joe was right on that which Joe Joe Biden or Joe mansion, but one of the Joses ride in the thing that they write about is keep the Internal Revenue Service out of snooping on your bank account and monitoring where you spend your money, that's your business not the business of the central government.

You say I think Harry if this this kind of provision. It's a move it's a classic Washington move. They got caught. Now that that there try to defend it. So they did it the second classic Washington was will just move up the amount baby you think this would apply to you as is everyone looking at this in the way that this is currently in draft for his the people. This would affect 40 to 50%, $50,000 or less year.

This is right at middle-class America get added up to 70 500,000 you start you know you get to 80% absolutely so this is classic bait and switch about the Democrats and they have almost perfected this behavior. They may indeed have a patent pending before the US patent office on bait and switch. So essentially they're claiming to go after the rich. But how do you go after the rich you go after individuals who are spending $834 per month.

I would imagine Warren Buffett is shaking in his boots, but at the end of the day what we should keep in mind, and every American in every hamlet in every city they should keep this in mind that Joe Biden, the President of the United States want to once to look at each and every transaction you make, and at the end of the day. We need to stop it so I encourage the American people to rise up and that they should basically advance with one voice and tell their representatives and also encouraged Joe mansion to stand strong in the face of undue pressure by AOC and the other individuals on the progressive side in the Democratic Party.

This particular provision that were talking about is simply an abomination guide you to say we are to stay on this we take these moments every year was the Jordan show all the show today really folksy of this issue because were to build a grassroots opposition to this got industrial supportive of the banking industry. I was at the grassroots support and we have the knowledge to know of of the wrongdoing. There's a reason why it's such a sow. I don't like paid yet. The study I divinely paid taxes. It did not follow the rules of the law.

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I encourage you to sign a petition to stop by the IRS. I got your bank account.

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