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March 5, 2021 12:00 pm
Jay Sekulow Angel one passed by the house Democrats targeting election system live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow phone lines are open for your questions right now called one 800-6843 1-101-800-6841 10 and the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow everybody is called HR one.
Interestingly, entitled people ask it passed by the House of Representatives and vote of 220 to 210. So now goes the United States Senate was only one Democrat that voted against the bill. The bill would create basically would codify some of the election issues that we were concerned with the constitutional issues of states deciding what their election laws should be rather than the federal government mandate it, which is the Constitution allows the states to determine under the election clause and the electors clause of the Constitution are allowed to do that. Now here's the here's the interesting thing, it would create automatic voter registration across the United States. It allows fellows who served or sensed about expands early voting enhances absentee voting by they call simplifying the process will get into the particulars. All of these requires more online political disclosures forces all organizations involved in blue activity to disclose their large donors that hold disclosure of donors issues always been troubling to me because of the First Amendment principle of anonymous donors.
That's freedom of association. But there's also another troubling provision and that is point out in the committee on the house administration. This is by the Republicans and that would let their number 10 is weapon eyes is the IRS is what it does, it permits the agency misses so troubling, permits the agency to investigate and consider the political and policy persuasions of organizations for granting tax-exempt status.
Let me take some we have an injunction against the IRS on exactly that point that we went to federal court and obtained that the IRS consented to in there to try to undo that consent provision 80 by passing a new bill guide puts us back in the position that we were in. We fought and conquered the IRS and I might say in getting them away from trying to target conservative organizations, pro-life organizations of organizations into supporting traditional values and they had targeted us to remember and they had put us in a position where they were wanting to know what opera of political and then religious affiliations and beliefs were and we got them to apologize to withdraw that people lost their jobs. This was not a Cincinnati only office aberration as they claimed it was in fact centered in Washington DC and now this bill would put us back in the position that the IRS was in with this power before we wind event that injunction so let's go right to Washington DC because obviously work look this it were already looking at possible constitutional challenges to this which that when I just read you about the IRS looking at the political and very vaguely of course, the investigating is it allows the agency to investigate.
That should scare everybody and consider the political and policy persuasions organization before granting tax events that is like of the pro-life or conservative believe in particular views on religious liberty that that's can be a basis upon which the IRS can say you know will value tax exemption and what does that have to do with election loss. So this is the problem. Let's go to Washington DC right now.
We point out the problem to find out what the solution can be what is happening fan well Jaeger to be a litany of those challenges are to be other constitutional provisions, including the forced disclosure of groups that advocate on issues you have to disclose members and donors. Of course that be problematic Would sum it up like this. Here's the solution we know that a bunch of states in the 2020 election took measures that proved to be problematic. This would be a DC takeover of elections NJ it would force all states, not some states.
All states to adopt those troubling measures PD tactic J the defeat. The, the response that we have to make quick to defeat this in the United States Senate plain simple. That's the tactic lesson plan. This is an require litigation.
I suspect if it passes, so here's organ it what were looking at election laws across the board's mixers are in compliance with accomplishment.
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Every one of the provisions that is deadly for the politicians is a major piece of the legislation sets up a new financing mechanism for congressional and Presidential elections ready for this. When the legislation would establish a I like matching challenges, but this little bit different. This is your taxpayer money going to the government 621 match for each grassroots contribution to a candidate up to $200. So for example you donated $200 to Nancy Pelosi or a Republican for that matter it would get a $1200 matching federal funds in public funds for contribution now totaling about $1400 house. I can be paid for by the way you'd like to know the public match program be funded by a new 4.7.
It's so insane a 4.75 surcharge on criminal and civil penalties and settlements that corporations pick to be. That's not for any online thing that went on these cases is talking about a man you know you can pay for it by taxing settlements.
This is what it says hi taxpayer settlements with the federal government. In other words, if I've got a tax case against the United if I'm in the US attorney's office and I've got a tax case against the corporate taxpayer and I make a lot of money for the United States government as a consequence of a fine or a penalty that is imposed upon this taxpayer could be a corporation could be an individual that money instead of going to the treasury fund. What should be government operations. COBIT relieves other things like that is going to go to Nancy Pelosi for as you mention, or for that matter any person's political campaign has a 6 to 1 challenge contribution. That's a much eligible line why what I will work together to get a settlement for the United States in a tax case knowing that that's where the money is going to go I wouldn't want you to you taxing it. The whole thing this this tells you how wrong this is but hate from a policy's perspective.
What this does, I and when you look at it in total. It allows for censorship based on content it allows for examinations of organizations based on viewpoint which these are all unconstitutional and it puts in a mechanism on funding that borders on the absurd absolutely. In addition to which, of course, it expands the likelihood the probability of fraud and so this is called the people act of 20, 21, HR one.
It's actually I'm sorry says for the people act of 2021. It's actually for the politicians, the elitists and the globalists. This is designed to permanently entrenched the Democrats and the left wing in power.
It is nothing less than a permanent power grab in the American citizenry. If they do not defeat this bill and if they are unable to cut clawback the clause of this bill in the letter legislation. The American people should get ready for 1984. Miss you this Wes just from the perspective I'm trying think an ordinary citizen seeing this, we think that that basically what's happened is the issues that developed during the last election and some of those were to statutory issues and constitutional issues as well but is like redoing the endorphin lysing the entire system here. You're centralizing elections in Washington DC. Keep in mind this is a government that can't run a railroad, they can't manage the post office and the deathly can't balance their own budget yet. We want them to control the elections.
This is really what it comes down to J is a paragraph in their using the pandemic and the things that happened that were unique.
Last November using that to increase government control and to negatively impact. States rights and individual freedoms. Things that were questionable, that are routinely done in places like California and in some states. Those things are illegal and are now trying to codify them into law fan. Let's talk about the realities of is this going anywhere. What's can happen. How do you see it moving and timeframe sure this is the strategy.
This can happen Washington DC for the rest of this term.
I think Jamie the house is made it clear that they are going to throw everything on every issue against the wall to see what sticks. They're gonna rush it out of the house there to rush it over the Senate and then the Senate will be the first place that there's actual debate on this so they it's clear the house it's moving towards the Senate once the Senate finally gets to this coded stimulus bill, which is another issue altogether that they wave very well turn it as they could turn to it as early as next week. Jason on the calendar this point about look all of these issues that you're talking about with Andy and Wes and Harry. They're all going to have to come front and center it in the United States and want one thing I would add J it's not just centralization of the power over elections its centralization and enshrinement of the most troubling provisions that happened during the 2020 election is taking vote by mail in public financing and same-day registration and making every state do that rather there. Whether they're prepared for it or not pay the other thing it does it draw redraws congressional district lines and who gets to do that a federal government entity.
It even takes the ability to draw district lines away from the states.
That's how draconian it is me let me play this for Eric's while well because I think this kind normally would not quote Eric swallow, but this kind of sums up where the trying to go with this. Take a lesson if their cheaters were not cheaters and we try to be the good guys we try to do what's right there out there cheating every day and and celebrating their cheating. How we beat that until someone finds a way to clone 1 million note Stacy Abrams were not so, that's my HR one is so important. I really hope the Senate if they cannot find 10 Republicans recognize that you're with the Republican's are doing right now is an X essential threat to democracy. If they're able to get away with that and we do nothing with respect to before the people act. This is in the for the people act okay, let's stop saying calling is not the for the people act if it's for the politicians and is for the politicians are left of center because you think that the IRS is going to say all this groups too far right yes I think too far left what what what is too far left sheeting to epic liberal organizations. Why do we want to give the IRS the power again.
We just been McCourt.
It took us four years to litigate this. You really what they're trying to do here is to try to undo our IRS when the legislation absolutely no question, and they are trying to undo the possibility that a future President or someone like him could ever be elected.
So if you look at the Democrats, particularly individuals like Eric swallow everything. Isn't X essential threat to politicians and essentially they're saying if we don't get our way. We are simply going to take over the mechanisms of government of the American people's right to a Republican form of government will essentially be taken away. Why because we are going to hand over elections, swallow point out to Stacy Abrams and individuals like her who may engage in voter harvesting and that is not that is inconsistent. I should say with democracy so one Democrat than Betty Thompson of Mississippi said that he votes no, he voted knows that my constituents opposed the redistricting portion of the bill as well as the section on public finances, which is this you get $200 in government matches at the 1400 work to 1200. I always listen about in the interest of my constituency is he the only Democrat that voted no. Is the only Democrat voted no, but actually J. His vote is pretty instructive here.
His concern on redistricting actually has to do with districts that are controlled by black members of Congress.
He thinks that if you pull away the redistricting requirements for an authority from states and bring it to the federal government skimming more difficult for the African-American community. The control states and then on the public financing provision JI we mentioned this in passing that I think it's worth using a real life example let's say Harry decides to run for Congress. Harry, I don't recommend it. But let's say you do and you convince Wes to give you true true but Leslie convinces Wes to give him $200 to run for Congress.
J. That means that you and Andy and I and the rest of the taxpayers have to throw together $1200 to contribute to that. It's a 6 to 1. Matthew basically is public financing of elections here. You might get elected but were the ones there to pay for, I would support her 200 $1200 limit is what but actually it says the public funding of this is actually to become go back to Andy on this on this new 4.75% surcharge tax such as imagined, or criminal. I come up with the settlement of the civil or criminal gangs. In the case for your audit for $152,000.
That is to be a tax on that guide and that tax on the settlement. I can imagine sitting at the bargaining table trying to resolve the case and say in addition to the hundred and $50,000 or million dollars that you have to.
You also have to pay a tax of 1.75%. In order for we meet is financed Harry Hutchison's political and a great idea. They do like the card companies. Do you know the Gunther for this week only where waving fees handling the taxes so maybe that's what the Bible especially if you could settle your criminal tax case this week did not have to pay the 4.75% if you settle your civil case this week when I can charge a 4.75%. You know what you taste something coming up next. Though the good news is, my company was joining us ever to talk about some international is about a little list to I think it is the four year anniversary pastors consult in China still in prison talk to upset Terry Pompeo about that.
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You forgive today online ACLJ is in danger. One of the moment may be necessary for pump a little bit about that, but we are joined on the phone by our senior counsel for global affairs and former Secretary of State and the former director of the CIA. My Pompeo, Mr. Sec., always great to have you. I know you're traveling today but were glad you able to talk with a sigh, I have a question for you early appear, and that actually relates to China and it's because this is the war year anniversary of Pastor John saw who it is. Is he was a green card status in the eye states wasn't a citizen but was allowed to behave here for number of years but did ministry work in China and is still been held by the Chinese at your your office work diligently.
I we did get a move eventually to a better facility, but the Chinese government on these persecution cases, that's what these are, but these Christian pastors have been written are pretty unrelenting and we we did good in getting a lot of these out with your help, of course, what what you're feeling on what the Chinese government's doing here to me when you get that particular case is particularly heartrending. But every time Christian pastor is detained or harassed door held inappropriately that the faith diminished the Chinese government parted as hard at this. They don't want people to be able to practice their faith and Christian leaders simply expressed their love of Jesus, and I want to preach to their flock synthetic can you see the kind of thing they have done. We worked hard on this for four years.
We made some real progress today. The day was enormously helpful in that paragraph as you can see from the ongoing situation is still enough a lot more work to do in the United States hope under this administration must continue to be a force for good. Trying to make sure that religious freedom can be expected when people go to China simply for the purpose cannot be detained since it is really I am convinced that because of your efforts in the Middle East and the ministrations effort said that you were leaving. This is the State Department that what we've seen is having a really positive lingering effect even on this administration yesterday when the ICC prosecutor announced that in fact not only did she have jurisdiction when the court is he that ridiculous ruling a couple weeks back, which she said she was actually opening the investigation of Israel. The current State Department. The current Secretary of State came out and condemned the ICC said their standing with Israel on this and that Palestine is not a state.
The Palestinians territories are not a state and that the ICC has no jurisdiction here, and that they will continue to support Israel. Now I say that it's surprising because most of us do not expect that my thought is, Mr. sec. is that it's the link they'd seen.
It's hard to ignore. Even the pure different political party to success in you all have had. We all had working together in the Middle East got with the Golan Heights recognition with the capital Jerusalem, but then the Abraham accords why do you what do you think motivated the actually positive statement on the situation with the ICC here was really hard to say that I personally mission on that you know they do nothing and McCourt you been there yourself. This is an enormous challenge to the world where they attempted a circular fiction of American case, trying to come after Israel fractions that they have taken was heartened to see this administration take a step that close to the work that we had gotten this woman tube incident that prosecutor made the nest method is corrupt.
She wants to use her role to line her own pockets. We thank you. Our administration ministration won't relieve the thin tooth on her personally and will continue to make sure that the ICC tenderness or jurisdiction in places that are not certain with respect Israel. In the course of expected of the young men and women are serving in the United States military that they continue to threaten to go after lawful actions they took in Afghanistan, which is another case we talked about at length yesterday. That's when I appeared at the hearing, a participant in the trial not involving US soldiers in Afghanistan. It's interesting progressives Mike are already saying how outraged they are on Sec. Lincoln's statements to lead a receipt she had to leave said no one is above the law. The international criminal court is the authority duty to independently impartially investigate and the US should not interfere with its ability to do so and the course you focus on alleged human rights, human rights and war crimes that were conducted by allegedly Israel but the point is the point the Secretary of State and the point that you made is that there was no jurisdiction for this court in the first place because Israel is not subject to the Rome statute, which is not what creates the ICC greatly nation but in the elect that market would want to feed American sovereignty in this way to hand over to a renegade court that no capacity to be controlled by the United States in which we back defendant consented to have our people held accountable to that that any elected official would say no that's that's okay they can they can collect Americans and we think that would be all right or they can come after our friends and allies in Israel and that would be all right. It is the crazy notion it's one that frankly I'm glad there is a broad bipartisan consensus and in most quarters, I just regret that the progressive end of the Democrat party handover American sovereignty.
In this way so quickly to Iran. Because since the year earlier this week with this is been another move. The Iranians recently very strong statement saying that the United States we brought to its knees. Their praising, of course, the change of administrations and we now have these additional proxy attacks and that whatever that attack that that Pres. Biden launched in the middle of the desert somewhere. What do we do to contain the Iranians here. We had the right end of the policy was right. Your point about the statement that the President has done Ronnie Wright who said that that they will. We will kneel before the great nation of Iran, the man who Sec. Carrie when he was in office that with the moderate was the reasonable person inside Iran is a murderous regime became the content on the destruction of Israel thought Prime Minister Netanyahu's comment yesterday. He was exactly right that faith as responsibility continue to put pressure on the Iranian regime and if we had done the staff today that it looks like were headed down to accords appeasing Iran. This will decrease security for the next bracket will decrease security for our friends in Israel and the entire Middle East.
All the work that we did to build out a stable coalition to push back against Iran is likely to be undermined really quickly got about a minute and 15 seconds year you tweeted about borders he sits on the borders and preserving to a building strong families in every community.
Liberals pretend to care about children while kids in the Democratic led inner-city struggle. What's your view on this that new immigration battle that's gonna come right to the border again think that having an open borders policy for kids anywhere in the world, certainly not good for the matter, but I thought some of these cases for 10K were these young people are trafficked across our border traffic through Guatemala seven Mexico it up in their lives. Many of them are treated as slaves and our human traffickers brown them.
We ought not be encouraging this our policy has to be that we can secure our borders and have a lawful reasonable immigration policy were going to force with the normative figure senior counsel ACLJ for global affairs.
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Safe travels and appreciate your insights is always nice to be born again all on everything. Approximately put this into perspective for you here with this one minute we have before the end of the sprocket. By the way were here for an entire 30 more minutes you want to miss that you ACLJ Donald were screaming at their on Facebook on YouTube on a lot of different social media platforms you can get it rumble others. We encourage you to do it. Course lot of the radio stations. The flowering Sirius XM does as well. Let me take something were talking about these issues, but were taking action on these issues and we were able a higher former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the former director of national intelligence, Rick Burnell, because of your support for the ACLJ you normally keep this broadcast on the air you keep us engaged in the fight form asked you to do is support the work of the ACLJ and a matching challenge campaign. Any amount you donate with someone that's in a match that ACLJ.org that's ACLJ.org and make that donation today and literally only $20. We get 4840 it's 8860. Excellent work encourage you to do that ACLJ.org will you be back with more including your calls 800-684-3110 in just a moment at the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate will be met.
$10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the world protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you and your family. Give a gift today online ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow's never talk about HR one, the so-called for the people at which are our bruises or labeling the were the politicians in an area not since I think is to take a step further than that area. It's called for the people. It's this new election reform, so to speak is called for the people act of 20, 21 were saying it's for the politicians you take it a step further.
Absolutely it's this law is designed to entrench Nancy Pelosi. She will become the chief voter registration officer for the entire United States. Essentially what we are talking about is a congressional takeover of elections designed to entrench Democratic incumbents. So, for instance, among other things, they are going to do with this bill encourage election fraud.
No verification for purposes of registration of they are going to advance an insecure absentee voting process. Again this encourages fraud and it basically reduces election integrity and election's security.
They are also prepared to allow children and I mean that to about so individuals who perhaps spend their time skateboarding in the morning can go and determine who is going to be the next President of the United States and they are going to then also extort in my opinion, public funds to finance elections and there's even more. The hits keep coming. They are going to then unleash Fallon voting on every single jurisdiction in the United States was to be controlled by the states absolutely. So essentially what they are trying to do at the end of the day is to this mantle, federalism, and essentially dismantle the states. They essentially want a national voting rules. They also want to eliminate the power and the authority of states and so what they will ultimately clutch if they're successful here is tying future regulations to compliance with federal directives so that governors of states state legislative officers will in fact be bureaucrats were pushing the federal agenda. So this is a redo fan of the federal election law basically is what worked were saying so we like to talk about what were doing about it. So let's let our audience know what our members know what exactly were doing about this right now. Yeah, preparing background on all of these provisions that had at Harry's talking about J were to be telling senators from both Republican and Democrat states that this takes control away from their states take their supposed to represent the people.
So even if you liked the outcome of this last election. I don't think anybody can with a straight face say that it was a flawless election. But if you do think it was a flawless election and you absolutely love this bill because it takes the way that the election was conducted and it enshrines it, and federal laws a day where to go to every single Senate offices. This is debated and we are going to explain to them how this takes away control from their state and from there voters and again J it redraws congressional district lines at a federal level. Is there any member of Congress that you want that to happen. None was what your thought when just look at this than anyone come back by bringing it into the side with the IRS never seen this much government overreach in my life. I don't think this is the most sacred and important institutions in America are elections and they are going about this. We've come such a long way from what the Constitution provided the federal government to do interstate commerce, and national defense well and we have come a long way since then.
But this just blows my mind is not only partisan vote to put this in place that one Republican voted for it is a partisan bill sure is. It's like where he successfully corrected entrench Mexican bronchus were to tell you how working a deal with this is what I want you to do share this speed up your listening or watching on Facebook or YouTube or any other social media platforms want share this right now. We give you the step-by-step what were going to talk about this IRS provision folks were prepared to litigate that that becomes while relitigating this we already litigated in one rep do it again. And don't forget support the work of the ACLJ matching challenge campaign that ACLJ.org which share this speed with your friends right now to special video coming up.
Take a look at the American Center for Law and were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ the work we simply would not occur without your generous heart wrenching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms important to you today online LJ only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means many ways your membership is powering the right question for economy mission life today online ACLJ/likely exactly for the politician exactly for the politicians left of center way left the center is an entrenchment bill. I want to talk focus on one aspect of it, they will unleash the Internal Revenue Service to operate the agency to investigate and consider the political and policy persuasions of organizations for granting tax-exempt status. Let me read that again. This is the summary. Consider the political and policy persuasions of organization for grant writing to ask them status was at me exactly exactly if you're pro-life or your conservative or you believe in religious liberty, or Christian values with the Judeo-Christian heritage of our country but you don't.
Now don't qualify because they can investigate that. And by the way they did. So let's not act like this is in some vacuum somewhere that has never ever happened.
It did happen. The problem was we caught them and we soon in federal court in multiple jurisdictions, we got an injunction that the IRS had a finely consent to so that they can't do exactly this. Consider the political and policy personal positions are persuasions of organizations before granting tax exempt status. We did a movie called targeting us. It's firstname.lastname@example.org or Amazon prime to watch it tonight or this week weekend. We encourage you to do that we may been played as a special in the days ahead on Facebook and some of our other platforms because it's that important, but any we went to federal court fork fought long and hard to gain the victory against the IRS for targeting conservative and pro-life groups and pro-liberty groups and what we got for now is you have a change in Congress and the trying to undo exactly what we put in place. Well, that's exactly what I'm up for four years.
That's correct to the IRS is a dangerous, potentially dangerous organization that exists to collect taxes and to levy penalties and things of that nature, but it was a weapon eyes. It was weapon eyes and there was a bolo list be on the lookout.
In other words, if you organization smelled right wing or if it had patriot in it or if it had 9/11 in it or if it had something in it that suggested Christian values or if it had something in it that suggested traditional views, and viewpoints as we take then watch that organization and make them suffer for it makes them suffer for it in the sense of withholding tax exempt status send them letters and questionnaires. After questionnaires extend the deadlines for them getting responses. Don't give them tax-exempt status.
We found out about that. It was not an isolated instance in one office of the IRS. It was pervasive coming from the home base in Washington DC. We called their hand on it from Lois Lerner from the very top from the Commissioner of Internal Revenue Code all the way down and toppled the IRS. That's right. That's what we did.
We toppled the IRS we made them, be enjoined in federal court and to issue an apology. This so-called against the people act.
Oh excuse me for the people. Act undoes, among other things.
That's not this is one of them but undoes the victory that we fought so hard J to gain against the Internal Revenue Service. For those of us who believe in traditional conservative Christian values right we are sending letters and pointing and doing research memorandums against the provision that we think are unconstitutional to each and every member of the Senate Republican and Democrat fans office is working on that now.
But then you look at this and we have any idea. For instance, where Sen. Cinema center mansion where they are on this yet we don't yet J and that you get. This is part of what I was getting at. Earlier, when the House of Representatives is doing this intentionally there throwing all of these massive building of the $700 page builder considering today. This 900 page bill a Senators really haven't had a chance to dig in and take a look at it, then J honestly that makes our work all the more important because we can help inform them on the front end and I just want tack this on to the video that you play during the break in the conversation you just had on the panel about that IRS scandal Jake one of the things that working to be able to do with those senators, all Senators really, but especially those who will take an honest look at it is put real people who have been targeted in real life by the IRS in front of them and say this is what this bill would accomplish.
Do you want a repeat of this we can tell you how it will end and by the way it if you do go down the track and if you do approve this and if real people do get targeted organist Sue again and working to catch him again. Do you really want that JI think that's one of the main ways that we can actually prohibit this from coming in the lobby where you have to engage it, no doubt about it would take your calls, 1-800-684-3110 in your comments to and questions are coming by Facebook or YouTube, 1-800-684-3110 let's go to Lisa's calling from Washington state online.
One lease welcome the broadcaster on the air and others. You want to talk to is 800-684-3831 10. Looking forward to midterm election indeed HR whined what we can call insurance again potential God is already happening.
General were doing when I couldn't get into what happened in the past this at this point is academic peers. We have to look for him. He looks to the future sweep look at the provisions of this bill and determine which provisions in our view are not constitutional, and then challenge those is either violating the elections clause the electors because whatever it might be freedom of association. On those IRS and free speech under the IRS provisions they want to put in but Harry it's it's a constitutional challenge that would have to take place. I think that is correct. So I think it's important to go back to fans. Point we will provide first some analysis and then we will challenge unconstitutional provisions, but we will also seek to inform our listeners who ultimately are voters so that they can get engaged as well. It's very very important to note, for instance, that the attempt to weapon eyes the IRS is really a form of censorship which ties directly into the Council culture which has overwhelmed much of Washington, New York City and California and so essentially it's doubtful that any IRS controlled by the Biden administration will treat other organizations conservative organizations Christian organizations fairly so at the end of the day. That will also provide at least potentially for laws passed another constitutional ground because essentially what is being infringed by this particular provision is the First Amendment freedom of organizations to speak. In addition to which, of course, this rule will likely be discriminatory really enforced. I go back to this question or this thought meant and what you said this. The overreaching of the power grab here is breathtaking in scope not mean the iris provision alone is enough. But then there's many other aspects of this. There are 15 or 20 things in here that people of all political stripes no independent Democrat Republican should be very, very concerned about this bill is massive is multipronged is invasive and back to the IRS issue is not that Nancy Pelosi and her friends in Congress are fans of the IRS is not that. It's just that their anti-traditional values their anti-Christian, even though she says she's Roman Catholic is anti-conservative – the whole motivation behind this is not that there Pro IRS they are against individual conservative groups in America and religious groups, but any given the IRS the ability to investigate and consider before the great tax-exempt status.
The political and policy and policy positions and persuasions of organizations before granting tax-exempt status is completely unconstitutional. It is unconstitutional and violates the First Amendment. It is violative of the injunction that we have against the IRS is violative of everything that we have said is constitutionally permissible. They're going to come in and were going to say before we determine whether were going to give you tax-exempt status organ of Vaught were going to investigate your political and policy persuasions.
And that's exactly what we fought against and we want it now. This bill would undo that. In other words would be put back in the position of being on the beyond the what a look out lives just like were criminals. I am looking for the exact language from the bill on the IRS matter because we we got we had a rep that apart fan that is. I mean that among many other things in here that one particular hits close to home because we got rid of that in the IRS yeah and the teams looking for that language. Right now Jay here's the thing. There are several sections that get pair this.
We talk mostly about the one that allows them to consider policy perspectives when considering tax-exempt organizations with. There's also language in there that says if you run issue ads which by the way days a good thing. I mean the American people should have conversation around these issues, but if you run issue ads you have to disclose donor so there's a lot of provisions that were to go through have to do analysis on all of them but they want one thing I just wanted to throw at you just can't interact. I could remember just what was it a week ago that the White House Chief of Staff Ron plane said that the coven bill was the most progressive piece of legislation ever be considered in the United States out or not. I would say this not to mark the I think that the second most certainly not the most, but what were to do over the next coming days is where you have our teams going through and finding the language in these bills. This particular language and start drawing what those constitutional challenges would look like right that's what were to do now coming up last thing the broadcaster can ask is anything phone lines are open and become mistaken as is anything lotuses but you don't mean anything is right.
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Everything else is bringing in the end, in process, but got one line open 800-684-3110 all its own order that held on Marcus calling from line 1 Mark, thank you, protect my column and thank you for the work you do not my question. It would not require a constitutional amendment to change the election loss of net national elections. This is not this you can do this by statute constitutional.
That's why you can't undo the election is a great question by Mark the elect elections clause in the electors clause by a piece of legislation is in supreme. I think generally that is correct. But what the Democrats have done is they've attempted to take a page out of past history in which, for instance, there have been certain changes, but many of those changes early. Some of the significant ones as the caller indicates were done through constitutional amendments. I'm not convinced that the Democrats, particularly the ones that have crafted this bill really care about the written Constitution.
They are not textural us. They believe in a living Constitution. They believe in the inevitability of progress and so I think at the end of the day. They are quite willing to change the rules and then hope that they can find a sympathetic judge or justices who will okay whatever they've done in the past and this then ties in with the other democratic initiative, which is to pack the United States Supreme Court. OJ on that section of article 1, section 4 and I heard a Democratic congressman talk about this because it says the times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof, but the Congress may at any time by law, make or alter such regulations, and that's what they're pinning this justification without another question coming in, and this is that dissidents when it's on everybody's mind that's Donna from North Carolina, Donna, go ahead and out what you're going to part or are you all right Bill is going to prepare three questions of these two aspects of this then quickly attack the legislation before it's a bill that's going on right now can explain that many will talk about the logistical litigation is necessary to both of the same time attacking the bill as it's being considered J as the attorneys look at the litigation will actually take those arguments to the lawmakers themselves to the Senators and say you don't have the authority to do this. And then, by the way, if there are some precision provisions where maybe they have some authority to alter some regulations, like Wes is talking about will think this is why it's a bad idea even if you have the authority to do and by the way, we've got the experience to show you how it will end up see the tea party scandal that happened. So to answer the caller's question no were not assuming it's can be passed. In fact, the primary goal here is to make sure that it's never passed by the same time the conversation. I know you're about to have J will be ready for this. That's what you look at because I don't think you can pass but you know stranger things have happened.
So we have to be ready.
So let's explain Andy what being ready means for our object when we were the bright writing discussing what lawyers are to start researching what provisions that we might possibly challenge our being ready means going through the bill page by page, line by line, making sure that we understand what it is that they're trying to do you know the bill than the section that deals with the IRS sticking its nose into tax-exempt organizations, political, and persuasive end and policy persuasions which they have no right to do. It's a complicated bill. It's called the repeal of restriction of the use of funds by Internal Revenue Service to bring transparency the political activity of certain nonprofit organizations within a take that language and break it down which means the IRS is going to determine whether your policy and political persuasions deserve tax-exempt status are not the resident to make that determination never going to break it down into simple language and were going to go into federal district court and were going to challenge these as being contrary to the Constitution.
In the case of this above First Amendment. In the case of what West said the article 1, section 4 provision of the Constitution which gives the time of May's place and manner of elections to the legislatures keep the federal government to the state legislatures keep the federal government out of regulating state elections, that's none of their business who says that the Constitution and OSU you sent earlier tonight is really struggling throughout the broadcast. And that was his whole idea of the overreach. When it's so massive. The wonder and if they have right this is now the most progressive bill that they've introduced is only the second bill introduced because the person was the most progressive also.
That's number two and we do have a call coming in about work question about that is what happened today.
What happened to the cloverleaf that will get to that in a second, but it's huge.
It is such a large bill me. They hide a lot of very frightening things, and in massive pieces of legislation, but thankfully people live have grown and have him start reading this and researching it. It is alarming but it is it is the most expansive government bill that I can ever remember because it impacts so many aspects of life, voter registration IDs.
The IRS you go down the list. It is huge. Jellies calling from the bottom line for Kelly welcome a broadcaster on their very similar to an earlier color my wiring will why your life. Elections not necessarily unconstitutionally if there any great HR when passes constitute elections actually is unconstitutional because the states are given specific authority in the Constitution and election clauses to time, place and manner of the of their election so it would be unconstitutional. The only way you can deal with it though is through court action Harry. That's what you have to do a situation like this precisely in that would be the second step in our process. So our first step is to oppose the alleged the legislation exposed to deficiencies in the legislation brought when and if it's necessary.
We are prepared to litigate. I think we are on firm constitutional grounds for doing so. And I certainly hope that, given the current composition of the United States Supreme Court. They will look kindly on our efforts to maintain election integrity and election security. Essentially, at the end of the day.
It's very important to defeat or to invalidate this legislation.
If we want to keep our Republic Chuck Schumer says stand at the event very quickly here.
But they can get this through while they're in a try.
I mean look at the very fact that they need labeled it HR 1J set as their highest priority so they're literally gonna try everything they can to get it through. I hear his word and we got our legislative teams working right now to try to not let it through.
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