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January 18, 2021 12:00 pm
Circular radio CNN calls for the elimination of conservative talk about that and more today on secular radio live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow phone lines are open for your questions right now called 1-800-684-3110. That's one 800-6841 10 and now your host secular secular radio soap just outrageous comments being made and accepted by CNN host Brian still driving the fact that this is now going around the Internet and is being promoted by the leftists of that be totally normal, something totally okay to do in the United States, which is to basically eradicate erase our conservative viewpoints from both the cable network so they they mention specifically Newsmax am a contributor to Newsmax and in a way in one American news, but also you know, one of the people on the show said you know Brian, there's people on YouTube that have more people watching their broadcast during the day.
Then CNN's daytime you.
No worries wrong there people on YouTube broadcasting that are more people watching that in their prime time during the week. That's the truth and what I think is this is a backhanded way to eliminate competition. It's like the platforming parlor. It's competition.
Twitter saw a lot of people start moving the parlor, so they made up a reason. Reason they found it had to like explain through 20 different tweets about how is bad, but they do it because they were losing a sick a significant amount of people. The parlor all of a sudden. So I think what would you better understand what has to be very clear here.
I want to play for you so y'all understand this was this weekend on CNN.
This would affect all of us were on YouTube were on Facebook we use we were utilizing partner.
We utilize rumble utilize force Twitter and and and and periscope and of course our website is on the servers. Well, ACLJ.org, which broadcast every day the broadcast. So think about that all the stations that were on both on television and radio and then take a list of the CNN is just accepted on seated, we have to turn down the capability of these conservative influencers to reach the same audience as there are people on YouTube.
For example, that have a larger data, a larger audience than daytime CNN and they are extremely radical and pushing extremely radical views and so it's up to the Facebook and YouTube in particular to think about whether not they want to be effectively cable networks for disinformation and then we'll have to figure out the OA and any Newsmax problem that these companies have freedom of speech but I'm not sure we need Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, and such to be bringing them into tens of millions of home. These companies have freedom of speech like CNN like like MSNBC, which by the way, is far left and Fox news. But we want to bring them into the home and they have to again.
It's a financial decision by those companies by AT&T and Comcast to be.
This is about business, not not about so much content and just because these are now's it's funny because seated is not a main main competitor to Newsmax what has become a competitive my sexy Fox news and and that is been hurt some of this and so it's interesting though they are using this moment to say let's silence the bigger ones that the Newsmax the OA and are actually on cable regular broadcast. Let's also take it to YouTube as well so they mentioned that what they don't mention is that there are people with YouTube channels getting more views than CNN gets during their prime time broadcasting that is just the truth.
They try to say was daytime and try to be nice, but the fact is, the left is on the warpath when it comes to trying eliminate conservative speech that and look the organ into the constitutional issues when we come back because the not cut and dry. In other words, these companies have free speech rights doing freedom of association with they don't have to put everything on this is not like the state of Georgia saying you can rightly we on those cases that the Supreme Court, this is a private enterprise, the dangerous precedent is it whenever you try to silence a viewpoint is very dangerous.
Now remember back in the 80s. We fought against what was called the fairness doctrine of speaking about a conservative you had put on immediately. A liberal view that's not the answer to this and some people are saying that I don't agree with that.
We have to be tolerant of use. We disagree with.
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No one's talking about, you know, imminent violence that's not protected out we all get that poor talk about viewpoints here and viewpoint discrimination traditionally has been viewed very skeptically by the Supreme Court and I would say unanimously viewed skeptically. Most of the cases I had with viewpoint discrimination issues. That is, will allow one group to speak on this issue, but not this other group I department example lamps Chapel church back in the 90s.
They had a bay rain, a film series by Dr. Dobson entered heart towards him was name of the stairs and the school district in Roslyn, New York said now would not allow the lamps Chapel school district that no were not allow that because limited church related that was their argument a minute, but they acknowledged that they had other people come in and other groups come in and talk about you know these kind of issues from a more secular perspective. The difference is in the case, we want unanimously lamps Chapel is viewpoint discrimination is unconstitutional. The actor involved and he was a state actor. Thus, the First Amendment applied by the 14th amendment. You don't have that with these big tech company that's exactly right. Do you know the prohibition against viewpoint discrimination against doing the things that violate the freeze speech provisions of the First Amendment always have to do with state action. In other words something and act by the states or by the government that causes someone not to be able to express themselves, but you have a whole different situation with these private companies and private concerns phase said both YouTube and so forth because their private companies and what they prohibit and what they allow on their platforms is not governments but is not speech that is government action prohibiting the free exercise of speech, but their private companies. The thing is that they control the airwaves and is and they do no good to a lot of people, but you have to be able to push back on this notion that you just heard Brian Stelter's get say why are these people giving access we give access access is given because we believe in the free exchange of ideas like the former scene. It is see and contribute to not just a guest on sated states paid paid by CNN and any didn't say far right or I'll write. He said conservative influencers that means like mainstream to me that means like no you got liberal influencers.
That's not saying far left or or you know the NT for Credit Suisse diabetic liberals within conservatives. That's pretty that's pretty like down the middle, right, I mean we know we have that in our country that that kind of discussion we had it for decades and yet they want it removed.
Not because it's a competitor of some since. I think any kind of competitor anybody who has something to say that they can take off does increase their chances of getting more views because if there's less options available to people they may.
They may turn to other places out of CNN is good to be their first choice, but but that's what they're thinking is can we take down the conservatives first, but I yes ask this because their business to the likes take on those liberal voices on the far left.
I know this is a likely navigation of thought.
Again this is not unification exactly right and what I am so concerned about is that we we were allowed a couple things, so obviously our radio broadcast.
We have hard radio stations that are that are brought as a guarded terrestrial radio settlers in their Sirius XM, but that we utilize the platforms like Facebook, Twitter, we were utilizing parlor and we rumble YouTube periscope through twitter so that you can see our show in different ways exactly coming to watch the show if you want and relying on platforms and so you could be the platforms, but will be so with parlor dad was a step past as being the platform be taken off the app store.
They were they were taken off the Internet yes because they were removed from the server. Yes, so that which raises this whole question again. I'm not an advocate for the fairness doctrine. I don't think that's the answer to this. I think the answer to this is some tolerance. The look. To be clear, I think the free speech is important to hear divergent viewpoints.
I listen to a lot of the networks at night I watch some of box I watch some of Newsmax. I watched some of CNN. I watched some MSNBC.
I watch these networks to understand where they're coming from on these issues.
For instance, initialing talk about tomorrow. There's been an American hostage taken guess where I ran. Why do you think they did it could be incoming administration, changing policies in Iran leverage. This wasn't happening. Two months ago, but this is exempt but again that Mably may be taken. A divergent viewpoint than others. This idea that people are so willing to stifle speech they disagree with Andy is dangerous. We used to say that that you know religious speech conservative speech should not only be tolerated should be welcomed in the marketplace by vitamin if your speech is better than my speech or point is better than your my viewpoint. Your advocacy is better than my advocacy then you should prevail, but there should be a free and full exchange of those ideas look Voltaire, the French philosopher said I disagree with everything you have to say. But I will defend to the death your right right say it and that's the kind of ad that's the kind of position that we undertaker that I that I feel it in and play points to what happened that horrible day. On January 6 the way you handle speech you disagree with is not by invading the nation's capital building and causing destruction you handle speech you disagree with with more speech. That's how you do it back and forth free exchange of ideas, not violence. None of this is Martin Luther King Jr. the day we celebrate Martin Luther King to write whatever they want to silence they wanted absolutely wanted to silence mainstream media yet which was very nice is what we need to realize that it was a voice of change. He was of a progressive voice of change. I use that with a little pity he was asking for America to rethink their thoughts on racial justice and racial equality. It was there was some of the media that liked them.
There were many in the media that did not like him. He writes a letter from the Birmingham jail into a Facebook which wasn't that kind of media access that if you disagreed with the wedding to do. Silence is voice that I try to throw him in jail to silence their voice and another not throw you in jail or just say were in a deep platform you that's the current version that's the year 2021 version of throw the guy in jail that you disagree with the speech message yeah exactly make it where the President has no way that Ted to get his message out that you have no way to get your message out and at you.
Your show goes off the air this show goes off the air. All these different things networks that are taken down. You've got platforms for speech that are taken down by parlor is it's a new way of the battles you are fighting a decade ago for the freedom of speech ship that you listed Martin Luther King here that that that if you don't.
If you go this way. This kind of way of it. Let's imprison your speech is a good way of saying it's like imprison your speech so put you in jail you can't talk anymore and and worry where the speech police something government forcing the do that. By the way its big taxes just totally unregulated. Hopefully that's absurd now and that we get deeper into that later to because here they get total immunity from what's on their sites but yet they're now taking off off off content even though they get the the liability not to get sued for having content that is offensive in the legal state was pretty poignant yet to glisten by five. We don't have goodwill toward men in this world, we will destroy Pharaoh by the misuse of our own instruments in our own power hundred percent correct and outdo instruments yet with an instrument in his day was a Truman jail that silence right away has to sneak out a letter to the burn from the Birmingham jail now it's in.
I was playing Monopoly with my when my grandsons and the others the card that says go directly to jail do not pass go go directly to jail and this is kind of what they're advocating and they were advocating this and see the like. This is normal.
Of course, when you have these companies out there that we need we need them to be off of the social media platforms got because more people are listening to them that are listening to us right that's the truth that was pretty much a bed and a lot of days. Newsmax is definitely anymore viewers then CNN on assessing this daytime talk. They're talking about the shows but also as a different audience different world by not all compete. That's what it's all about his competition would be on the air. If it wasn't wasn't really that only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice as tech.
Is there any hope for that culture to survive.
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But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ is great. I love your kids, even if you do a virtual school. They probably did never choose day so that video you just saw. If you're watching us on bald beagle I you check it out.
That is the best way will for people find it was the best way people do it all beagle.com will take you to the video right there.
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It is great for young kids to understand you in a short way and in an interesting way.
What what were celebrating on Martin Luther King Day and the bigger picture. Especially I think in light of even what your kids may have picked up on these last couple weeks in our country, not just with covert BC that's been a tough year.
Their schools go reopening the closing and reopening, but also if enough there watching the news of your caught on the scene of the military in Washington DC and riders happening in things you may be discussing amongst that you know with your with your husband or wife or others when you're on the phone that it simply inspiring. I think that we all needed spy wrist. We have sort of from Dr. King to I think forget some of the phone because I think looking forward you take these messages. They are as relevant today as relevant today as they were when they were spoken by Dr. King in the 1960s and take a listen by seven we will go out into the claim of pessimism. We will be able to go to get away with words that I think resonate today when I hear the fatigue of despair. I love your voice right now I meet were about to have the inauguration of of Joe Biden. There was so much controversy surrounding that election led to just all those horrendous events on January 6 the nation's W can feel despair. You can feel like you know what were not really turning 1/4 to 20, 21, things are just kind. This seems to be worse.
We hear about new strands of covert are the news it worse is it is it more dangerous when we get back to normal.
On that front the political front and then we hear that we would they want to silence us within, but there is a moment where you have to is Dr. TC. You have to rise up from this fatigue of despair right that's were preparing is the eighth ACLJ as we speak right now for all of you to go into the hope to say you know what working at work at be participates in making it better right and in the country and in shaping the country in our our our vision and and that's what you have to do get to pick yourself up you to say this was this bad. You understand the fatigue.
I understand fatigue. We went through many days of no sleep at all tried. If I do your hardest to try to get the facts, what was right what was wrong.
What were just theories and and and and were still the point which seems like the countries right on the edge of this protest didn't amount to much over the week and that's good yes DC it was never gonna have a huge inaugural anyway so people say will look at the military presence. The truth is to be very small anyways because it covert so I don't I don't think you have to take that into too much like that. Looks like I got all you gotta get past fatigue.
I mean, here's a reality that you keep your wallet in Dr. King was right. If you wallow in despair and to be staying in fatigue is what you really get done nothing so were to talk tomorrow about a situation in Iran with our international Senior advisor for foreign affairs in an international intelligence Rick Grenell because new ministrations coming in. We've Artie got an American taken hostage. This adjustment in Outlook.
Here we go again and so they're shooting off missiles and they were shooting off missiles and most are strained. Here's what you have to say to yourself, am I going to disable all of this is what's happened. No, you fight back. That's why our theme for 2021 is ACLJ now more than ever because you have to be ready to engage and you cannot lose hope. Now we gotta be wise as serpents here and that is with this thing with big tech and were on big tech. We got a good relation with them and I hope we continue to have a good relationship with them. But this idea that some are saying and it's been certainly promoted this weekend on CNN to silence a whole group of people you disagree with, not because what they're saying is inciting violence, not because what they're saying is causing harm, but there advocating a position is different than the position you're advocating and also new label that dangerous.
The danger, and that is you are silencing people because of how they view the world or how they view life and that is a dangerous precipice to be getting ready to fall off a because where does it stop it does not stop with the conservative network goes right down to what you're listening to or watching right now. That's why Andy would got to realize it is still viewpoint discrimination even though it's not a state actor. So it's not actionable in court, but it's actionable in the court of public opinion, that's fine.
We have to pursue that it's very important that we were able to get out a conservative point of view of point of view the deals with life. A point of view the deals with freedom of the exercise of the right of freedom of speech. You know I was thinking about Dr. King. In the letter that he wrote from the Birmingham jail and become so important to our Christian audience. I want to say.
Don't forget that St. Paul wrote many of his letters while he was where Jay imprisoned in prison in jail and he wrote his letters to the different churches that he had founded and visited throughout the Aegean area and throughout Turkey and Asia Minor and Greece so he persisted in doing what God had told him to do and to spread the word. Even though he was locked up and imprisoned an incident in many cases he would dictate the letters to somebody else who was his amanuensis and wrote these letters because he couldn't scene. He says sometimes CRI was my own hand and two other CRI with and of others.
So St. Paul should be an example to us as well. Interesting comment from representative Cortes this is AOC she's called the Congresswoman statement about media control is absolutely a commission that's being discussed several members of Congress and some of my discussions harm from media literacy pecans are here were going to figure out how we rate environment so that you can't just spew information and misinformation yet. That's always good when you have a committee to start deciding what's wrong info what's right info and it's good to be completely partisan commission.
I mean I think there's a lot of things you have an honest disagreement with on with AOC about what is news that you should report, and it's worth debating in news that that is it. It would probably use honestly disagree to disagree. That's fine in America you can. That's why we have other options sheet has no no would make your watch Newsmax or Fox News or away in and no one is making you watch CNN or MSNBC but there's places to go was make you listen this broadcast is another broadcast available. This is so much available and I think that we got to port the content is good. This free this free flow of ideas is for the most part good and one bad incident should not be the catalyst to start eliminating what we what we cherish so much in our country which is the free and open discussion of ideas ideas that may sometimes seem out-of-the-box at the time, but they may not be so radical 20 years later.
Think about Dr. Martin Luther King what he was saying. Then was radical, radical, some would call it offensive it with the kids to hear.
But now that would be totally normal. That would stating that we would be on the specter of wrong right is being accepted. He's totally right.
Nothing to debate their but as we progress to there's other things to debate know-how you have you had and how you have those discussions if it's only one-sided that is not the America we tended to have more than we thought to create the right Mexican Americans for decades.
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What are we talking about what happened on CNN this weekend. Brian Stelzer show ended. No pushback at all for any of the guests were from Brian himself does the broadcast. Take a listen we have to turn down the capability of these conservative influencers to reach these huge audiences.
There are people on YouTube. For example, that have a larger data, a larger audience than daytime CNN and they are extremely radical and pushing extremely radical views and so it's up to the Facebook and YouTube in particular to think about whether not they want to be effectively cable networks for disinformation and they would have to figure out the OA and and in Newsmax problem that these companies have freedom of speech but I'm not sure we need Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, and such to be bringing them into tens of millions of homes that's there. Do they not go there to save over not saying Newsmax as of right speech, but that they're going to target the company's debt, which is what we seen happen is that the target Amazon the target Facebook. They put the pressure on twitter to default platform people to take them off the air and because they said boycott as you get the sense I would set Newsmax that were not true trip on their freedom of speech we we just don't want them to reach as many people which is traveling on their freedom of speech because they fought hard to get that network time. Yeah. And so it's what think it's it's similar to case.
I argued back in the 80s. The secondary boycotts. In other words, it is not boycotting directly but your Santa people put pressure on them so that that person will not rent their hotel to this particular group. Now it's a put pressure on them so that you don't have your cable airwaves open to that group that's already been on your broadcast because that whether you know you may find that the advertiser may boycotting the seven this is its cancellation culture that we talking about. But this is not want to tell you that I've been practicing lighting. I collectively practical about 90 years are better. It's a very hard it's is a heart about was no state action. But what makes it even harder is there are all these people similar so many avenues of communication, but really aren't. It's a handful of major platforms have to be careful with and that's what really dynamic but have you to have television, radio, and you have place like Facebook and Twitter and they are really got rumble in the parlor and try they try to take them down. And yes, it's tough to compete with the big guys you have to come up with a great idea with the big guys are actively taking it down. It's a real problem for Robert and Marilyn online one hey Robert yeah hi Jordan how do you want applicable to you why you believe.
In addition, the competition waiting. What could be some of the other idea. The reason behind again and wanted to shut down conservative voices. In addition to just disagree with the idea.
Is it a push toward totalitarianism the government every totalitarian regime by block of 21 of think of. Can you control the media and after that was happening. I think see that you step program cross called crossfire and they don't anymore because that was the right and the left enabled today was a good program excited and I was on a lot across Arthur Carlson was on TV and another going after him.
So here's what it is. It's trying to eliminate antique counter viewpoint and that's the maze when this is if your narrative is not our narrative. We don't want you to have and is very than your changing people's mind optimize until they have nowhere else to go. Well I'm in Robert is absolutely right. This is an attempt to stifle conservative speech by just sort of saying that, and then with Sandy Cortez the Congresswoman from New York is saying we got arraigned in the media environment so you don't spew misinformation and disinformation based on one whose misinformation and disinformation you think it is this information and disinformation. I happen to think it's the truth. Am I not entitled to speak in near my viewpoint. I think I am what is truth what is truth. That's right as Pontius Pilate, but so I get closer and take your calls 100-684-3110. Listen, I don't think the question how dangerous do you think this could be because were already seeing already see what happened parlor with artist he would have resident Tracy was having others and now they're trying to target more mainstream outlets like a Newsmax.
I'm a contributor to get just to try and keep any wood new out anyone is gaining steam. Let's get them out escape parlor.
Alice get Newsmax out away and let's get them out the start you know they don't like conservative talk radio crystal radio either, so they like to get this out to be tough for me, like trying to challenges facing Americans for substantial time when our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ is going on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.
But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one.
A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ plainly hastens her fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the motion and what Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership abuse you is empowering the right to question your free copy mission life today online ACLJ/the same person or Facebook executive now see it was on my cell to show unseeded, which is about the media. He also went on to say that we should use the same tactics as the US security used to remove ISIS from the Internet to use against conservative influencers going Lynn Greenwald noticeably conservative but just hates the idea of silencing speech. I agree with him on that aspect it speech is speech is speech is protected should be protected because take a listen. Here's where he goes further than just saying well I don't what you Newsmax they've got a right to free speech of these people, but AT&T and Verizon contest don't have to put them on the air take. This goes a step further and intentional work by the social media companies collaborating together to work on violent extremism in the same way they worked on ISIS meet. He uses that violent extremism that in the same context when he said conservative rate you know that you are blaming all of us for 5000 people out of the 75 million who voted for Pres. Trump. You know I like that is that is in you by Newsmax on that like I was on Newsmax alignment be on there later today same show. It was follows our show live John Bachman show and we were talking about the different options to challenge you to like number of electoral And the right begin Newsmax wasn't promoting some right.
It was shocked to begin he's lumping them in with us because it's easy to lump things together to get to a desired result. And one of the things you got here in this and Logan you brought this up earlier over the weekend is seen and was so brazen with this. They didn't hesitate to say they promoted it and they haven't sought to clarify.
They meet the brightest others is the worst me what outcomes these things. The always a person is out there kind of poking her concerns to the point of making you uncomfortable saying things and ridiculous is the reprogram we joke around about a block that always this very intentional attack that when you look at the way that the conservatives were presented in that it is a little alarming and I think it would go to the parlor situation that's a situation where I think things took an interesting turn because it went from taking off an app store to removing you from the Internet from your servers being shut down, with 24 hours notice. That is something we all need to be taking a look at it such an odd time because you do want to also if you don't hear the other side of the point of view how you ever know what you disagree with me that is sort of a big issue that if it's just been fed. One way to get it does feel a little like what you hear comes out of North Korea, which is just here's one viewpoint. This is the viewpoint we all agree on. We all understand.
In America we all understand society we don't move, will you not allowed to get a letter here. The other person's point of view that is a deep concern I to concern for Christian television is a concern for Christian radio conservative conservative site and also as we all know, history repeats itself. There is a cyclical nature to society. Whether coming out of the 60s. The protest here the 60s, then you move into the 80s where everything became capitalism and corporatism and that is what the kid that so we not know 10, 15, 20 years from now. Tides will turn back to where you want it you should be on the other flight where all the sudden the liberal view. He heard no one. I think that's the main difference between these conservative outlets in the liberal outlets is the conservative outlet scope. You have every right to be there in this state was never ever promote this idea though never conservative just like everyone denounced the attacks immediately on the capital pretty much everybody came out and said this is horrible immediately. Not something you would've seen from the other side. This is where you have to take a big look at this and go okay now that we are to be careful. I want us to be careful and carefully hearing what you came here media present to you today and anything you because were used. Odyssey radio then honestly what we see in radio we soft top conservative leaders in radio people who run the networks come out and tell their house, you better be careful you. These are people that honestly would never accident the only reason the people listening to the safe. And that's also the main problem is seated show their cards a little bit when I said you know this is getting bigger ratings than we are.
No kidding, which is where the influence that they don't want the influence from people interested they could make the transition of power available on YouTube. They can make more available because it's not the same as I have international point of view is stuck at. That's when they want to bring back these laws.
These ancient laws because they they cable news they want to be the only voice cable is not the only voice voice. One important voice. I think like for Newsmax to have a cable news channel for a way to have that makes them a bigger voice speak than just their web presence.
But if you look at their web presence is gigantic. I believe a video that we post one of Newsmax he recited as a 1.3 million views.
Brian seltzer's never had a shout that's had 1 million people watching. I saw the other day I saw the other day but 700,000 people watch your last, I something that you did with will mean months ago was like a Nancy Pelosi think yes I think it had 1.5 million views. Now Brian stood seltzer for the month and at one point we keep saying seltzer which products out there is a jump drive away all the swings of the 90s, but guys into it. But now I understand you're right they media landscape is change completely. And I think that's for the better. I think it's good that there are obscene or traditional came out right is shaking up the entire Lancer disorder doing that because things are constantly changing, constantly evolving constant break trying not to count the morning with 3 o'clock with were built and was a limited time or back in the morning. We dated for Dana Perino said why are they doing that because are trying to figure out what the problems with this is an egg is that this idea that if you shut the valve down if you if you don't have the release of free speech is like a tire if you don't have that release valve. You know what happens. What happened on January said yes right that's what you got. The beauty of a country that supports free speech is to give the outlook for the American people here in our country the ability to redress their grievances to petition Congress to speak out on the streets to engage the culture use timeouts that down you end up with violence in every other culture. That's what happens when that happened I have in the Roman Empire the emperor used to come into the city's riding on his horse and the people would write would stand around and they would then you gotta get the Emperor's attention and what would you yell one word Brad Brad give us food, and he heard the any narrative that was with the site, you can squelch that because once you squelch the ability of the people to demand from their government redress of grievances to be heard you have explosions you have, what happened on January 6. You have the terrible things that this suppression of free speech can give is wrong yet elicited by a again I keep going back tell Martin Luther King a way to celebrate because martyrs can inhibit so much of what he says is timeless and can be applied to almost every situation. We go through take most of the bite number eight we are called for the week father from the victims of our nation and for those that call NMA right now the enemy is the conservative right right now the the enemy for Joe Biden for Kemal Harris for these networks is platforms is us conservative. They didn't say outright in-state extreme right.
The second servant of conservative influencers, which is a course spectrum of people from all the remediation for fun, Instagram five following valves Hollywood actors who become more conservative over the years, you could say that about anybody who's posting conservative political points of view and other political and somebody commented I think it's interesting say it is that sort of old like saying the look of the more liberal perspective. Looks as yet you says your horrible person conservative looks a liberal person says I think a good person with bad views. When I think that is the problem you're treating you.
American reviews, I disagree with right not you are the enemy in this is the big concern and looked out that there are friends on both sides absolutely are a bit the mass majority of people with effortless weights and the fringe is motivated more by these cancellations and more. By this feeling of that of when they hear this.
Then if you just like you said at us. I think that's what pops up. Unfortunately when you don't have anywhere else to express use and express use that that doesn't mean they should do no monitoring by the way, the funny thing is they weren't doing any and because they had that section 230 protection were they not liable for anything that goes up on this thing out executions of live murders going on Facebook member. That type there were live murders looking lamp at halftime yet it's a problem with YouTube YouTube I love the platform my channels done very well and I'm very appreciative of the platform that I have on YouTube, but they tell you if you don't monitor your comments. You can get kicked off time and you have a video like mine is 1.7 million life, it's almost impossible to go through every day. The amount comments that come in a role. Still every 11-month-old to be a six month old think it's comments every day because it's now just rolling the promise of I don't go in there or someone doesn't go in there something to check if there's horrible profanities. There are some self checks there, but there are things I go through everything carefully, put this on the Internet. I got the deleted because it could to get flag on you and Nelson were shut down.
This is where it's it's becoming a toughening of union moderated on them right. They have their own self not you have to self moderate even after self moderate. Say what you think.
An advertiser will like this and whether it's a common result in a person's comment have to be super careful night diving there for everyone who's listening. I was watching ability ball beagle our kids channel is marked for kids that we forget there are no, that's actually a bit of anything of it is you get your kids are exposed they know at least there's part of the YouTube don't expose kids to be horribly site little things I come back. A lot of people have got questions about the legal tell your parlors now with Amazon in retirement that later today to in its uphill lay back on the online there back on the pages but they have not relaxed because they have the proprietary information yet relaunch will answer some these because love you because it would let the legal counsel to get into that now that we can explain the issue there.
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Jay Sekulow is starting some calls about more like how to fight this. Courts have got a question about his and there are actual legal challenges are going right out what is on the on parlors taking Amazon right now the looking for an injunction to get the bank on. So let's go to our back in California on line 3 Rebecca welcome to Jay Sekulow live I Rebecca will barely questioning by handle work and bank tax for over 25 years old. A monopoly that has grounds like AWI, Microsoft Azure and diabolical new media platform like needed Mac and Eliane. The Internet, lifting their servers and seeing how Telcom has changed 18 p.m. arriving what is occurring with parlor team looks to be a huge antitrust issue. I'm interested now because an FTP regulation antitrust law and the fact that these are possible neither private company, but their publicly traded Halloween event that they could isolate and stay neoconservative speech on YouTube or any platform publicly traded does not mean there are public or that there are a government speech that just leaves her stock ownership is traded publicly. You could buy their stock with regard to the antitrust aspect of I'm just looking at anyone said that when antitrust litigation I've been involved in some that you talk about decade antitrust litigation takes on forever.
I remember we had an antitrust division in the US attorney's office in Atlanta and all I remember them doing is coming to me for immunity request and I sent you and immunize everybody who who you have any defendant you intend to prosecute and they never did. All they did was immunize people and take testimony in the grand jury you talking about decades and decades of complex litigation when you talk about and is it like the parlor case it's not parlor saying that Twitter try to shut us down, so it's not like a competitor turns around. It's the they were taken off, literally assisted the server. The SSL AWS issue style, which is the Amazon server proposal analogically. Is it because it's very reliable and absent Amazon.
There are very reliant on Microsoft are these companies to like Amazon and these others like firm's summary went up for us the platform us, which we hope they don't do and don't get many ITS no argument of nothing to the platform and have a conversation about recently, so has the right to say yes or no that the question is, it's not hard. No know it's a couple flips a switch is in and you're done me the only thing would be holding us out is that hopefully your Christian radio stations. Your conservative radio stations would keep you on the air and I don't mean it is and and TBN and Christian tells which by the way, I can set to go after Newsmax TBN is next. You know it will end this just shows like Huckabee right thing and have like four years ago, but not that back know he's doing like an inaugural special for TBN something different for them that the Navy I know that seniors so again, all of that to me just signals that their comfort parlor because of try to say will look they were this open place them so much craziness going on there because they were brand-new company protected by what section 230, section 230 of the communications decency act. They got the same protection for soaking up as a new company. They weren't held to the standard of having to have the same kind of monitoring because they have the same kind of resources to monitor the how to use it but but again I think that's that that's the perfect example of its they don't want to just take them a show is now what I'm saying. They were to take down the place called casting the show so your entire platform Newsmax out thoughts every show, and instead of saying let's call to cancel X host right is a valid answer, Jeff.
It's beyond that that was my big concern when they came for parlor as a platform not for people not for broadcasters, not not for show because legume advertisers get all of the shows can comparable quickly with their same to deploy from the entire universe or the entire service. That is where you have to be very quick. I don't really really liberal friends who hate this idea is they know it could easily show can be on the other, except for the kid like what you say conservatives don't don't think this way we don't say silence is never happened right that would never happen, but I'm saying the other ways they see at least five people who usually is stacking companies understand like section 230 was created by Republicans that migrated by conservatives to allow them to grow as businesses and yet there now use abusing, using and abusing that truce to silence conservative voices also take the final cup because of today because this will get a lot now that people talk about fairness doctrine for the other side said maybe we need Jerry in Virginia on line 1 Jerry Walker Jay Sekulow live. All I agree with your with your comment about igniting on 29 andů It is ironic that you mention the fairness doctrine because of the First Amendment does continue to be attacked and at least they can be conservative, you will be displayed to the law. It only applies composed radio and television, but at least you have a cordial and perhaps a civil conversation can be close of the sermon stock. I didn't like it before. I don't like this is the old story. We complained about it because it was slightly conservative speech.
So get rid of fairness doctrine course conservative speech admitting about Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity's others programs grew exponentially.
It's an hour all the issues on the other foot. We got big tax and we want to silence these conservatives. I want to use more speech to beat them back.
I don't want to use government compulsion.
At least that's what my head is right now. I think that's the way to do it because again you quickly turn against you in a minute very fast and that it's been the reason we provide support for with the danger of any culture and he that silences a talking about what you said Jordan, 75 meet many people voted for Donald. From silence half the country.
No point of view it's is really setting up for danger. In my view every culture has experienced this, the First Amendment is the safety valve.
It's the air pressure release. That's what it was designed for, and you remove that and you create problems actually juvenile.
I agree Jan I think the only answer to speech is more spring and more speech and more speech and never stifling speech and again as I said, whether you agree with that or not.
I defend to the death the right to express yourself in any way you can, religiously, politically, economically, socially, that's not just freedom of expression verbally, but to express yourself in the point of view that alcohol may ultimately take stock in the marketplace but you don't suppress speech by trying to to do the things that we see on CNN and so for. Can you imagine a 75 million people decided to monitor his Amazon anymore because were matted by me. They could do that and the right to do that. That's not that's a good business on siblings like it happened right is not inhabited since the convenience of of life at this point is like it is Martin Luther King Day want to say as he wrapped up show. We do have a brand-new ball big over the efficacy of your kids go watch it. Bulb Eagle.com subscribe to the YouTube channel and checkable were doing.
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