BREAKING: Ilhan Omar Scandal Grows

Today on Sekulow, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar breaks her silence with a bizarre interview on MSN.

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And now, your host. Welcome to Sekulow. Will Haynes in today. Give me a call one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. As we watch the growing narrative around what is going on with Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, it's been something that I thought was going to kind of go out of the news, but yet last night she decided to go on MS Now and give an interview with Chris Hayes in what some are calling a head scratcher in some of the responses she gave.

We're going to get to that right away. And if you want to talk about it, where do you think it's going? Do you think anything will happen? Give me a call one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. But I did want to give a quick update right here because right before we went to air, we got an update from the Assistant Attorney General at the DOJ's Fraud Division.

This is Colin McDonald, who has said there is going to be a major fraud announcement in about twenty nine minutes from now at twelve thirty. Eastern time.

So when we're live, it'll be while we're on the show, and he is in Los Angeles.

So buckle up, folks. We have our entire producer team monitoring that situation, so we're going to bring that to you live as it unfolds. As he announces a major fraud announcement, this comes as we saw the announcement of indictments over COVID fraud schemes, Medicare and Medicaid fraud schemes yesterday. It seems like this fraud division is really picking up in the last few days. Can't wait to see what the assistant.

Attorney General Macdonald has to announce, but we will get to that. Let's get back to Ilan Omar as it is right now. Stay tuned for the fraud announcement in a little bit. This is what she said to Chris Hayes as almost the time to clear the air. She went on the most friendly media outlets she could find with the most friendly host she could find on MSN, and he.

Obviously, had to ask the question. I would say the elephant in the room, but this isn't a Republican Congresswoman here. Had to ask the question. You know, there's these allegations about your second husband being your brother, and all of this situation. We'll play the longer one in the next segment, but I want to get right to it.

If you haven't heard this, this is bite two. This is after a back and forth about how it started. This. Rumor. Here is what Chris Hayes said, and the congresswoman's answer.

Bite two. He was. You were not related to him at all. Not that. There's not some weird kernel of truth that's through some game of.

Not to my knowledge. There's not some weird kernel of truth. You're not related to him at all, and the congresswoman says, not to my knowledge. A lot of people pointing to this as a flub.

Some people are saying this was a rehearsed line.

Some people are saying is off the cuff. What do you think? Do you think this was a a calculated answer? At a time where that is what seems to be the question swirling around, give me a call. What do you think?

One eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. Do you think this investigation by the Department of Justice and Homeland Security is going to go anywhere, or do you think it's all just a show? As many of of our audience say, nothing ever happens. Let me know. One eight hundred six eight four three one one zero.

We've also got some fascinating updates about the. Illegal voters, and by illegal, I mean not illegal in their citizenship status, but non-citizens that are illegally on voter rolls or voting illegally. There's a lot of information coming out about that. As we saw indictments in California, we see some action on the Hill related to that as well. That I'm going to break down for you a little bit later.

But join me one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero as we break down all of these very important issues that are moving very. Very quickly, just less than two weeks before election day, the midterm elections. That's crazy. It's crazy that October is almost over, folks. I can't believe it myself, but that's where we are, and we're going to keep breaking it down for you.

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We're talking currently about the situation with Congresswoman Ilan Omar. Obviously, we have had issues with a lot of the positions of the congresswoman for a very long time. Talking about her disdain for the state of Israel, she was one of the original squad members with AOC and the like. But when you start to get into this this conversation, We even said it a few days ago that, yeah, there actually is optically she she has a point optically that you know the timing of this obviously her race is not competitive in Minnesota she should easily win reelection but yes it is right before the midterms it is within that window that kind of thirty to ninety day window where the DOJ has rules against conducting certain investigative activities to not interfere with an election.

So, so to some degree, that gives her talking points and makes it easier for her to make this seem like a political sham. At the same time. You know, a judge signed off on a warrant. A magistrate judge that was obviously the the way the magistrate is, to my understanding, is is appointed in D.C. Is that the judge panel picks the magistrate judge magistrate magistrate judges?

Sorry about that, and is able to put them on. And obviously, the D.C. Circuit and the D.C. courts, the district courts there, are not a conservative court. Any way, shape, or form.

So even the fact that the the warrant, obviously warrants, can be sought and got pretty easily in criminal matters. But you still have to show cause. You have to show probable cause for the judge to sign off on this. And especially this close to an election and with a sitting congresswoman, you think that a judge would be a lot more hesitant to sign off on it based off the timing. Yet, what did we see?

We saw that there was a search warrant executed on the home of. Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.

So there's a lot of questions that linger here, right? Because that judge signed off on it, yet the timing doesn't look great. All of these things. At the same time, she kind of went dark. She started not saying as many statements.

This is one of the most outspoken members of Congress. Loves to get on TikTok and on Twitter and on the internet and in front of cameras to make her statements against how bad the Trump administration is. But yet, kind of went quiet, and we saw this video asking for. Money that she posted just a day or so ago, while she was riding in a vehicle, fundraising off of this, we've seen that they have been using that in emails. I am certain her her fundraising campaigns are doing very well.

Because all of the language is ripe for that kind of fundraising, going to those donors, we know how well it worked for President Trump when he was the target of political prosecutions. She's flipping the script and using it for herself. But here's where it got bizarre. Obviously, I'm thinking this is her press shop saying you have to get out there. You can't just be quiet.

I would have advised against her doing this interview because even at the most friendly of friendly. Organizations, she's not at risk of losing her seat. Wait till after the election and come out and say what you need to say. But there is an ongoing criminal investigation, as far as it appears, within Homeland Security and the Department of Justice. I feel like you can do more damage than good at this point by going public.

Obviously, her base is going to support her. That's how polarized we are. There, there is nothing I think that is being investigated here, based off what we know publicly, and whether that be through anonymous sources and the news leaks, however you want to categorize it. There's nothing publicly shocking that is a new revelation. These have been rumors for a long time.

We know that there have been back under the Biden administration. They looked into her immigration status before it was shut down.

So this isn't new. This isn't novel. That all of a sudden we're coming, we're hearing these things, and they are brand new. They've never been discussed on blogs or on social media.

So why does she feel like she has to go out and give this interview? And I want to play the full context because it was going. The most salacious part was going to be asked by no matter who the interviewer was. And if I were the press shop, I would say let that fizzle, let it run wild on the internet by your political enemies, and it'll go away. But the fact that she gave the interview means she has to go kind of on record about this.

And and the back and forth is just it's bizarre to hear, and I want you to hear it. And I'll give my thoughts on why I think PR wise this wasn't a great move for her. But let's play bite fourteen. It's a little bit longer because I like to play the context. This is the the beginning of the conversation from Chris Hayes about bringing this up, and then kind of the back and forth, her giving the origin story of it, etc.

Let's play bite fourteen for folks. He will tweet, Billan Omar. She married her brother. Blah blah. You think you see that?

You think yourself, boy. That sounds odd. It seems unlikely that she married her brother. There are right wing people who believe that this man was your brother. Right.

You have called it a disgusting lie. Right. Well, you who who was this man that was your husband? When did they start saying that he was your brother? Why?

It started with the Somali blog that I don't know if it still exists, but somebody put in there that you know that he had to have been my brother or something to that effect. And right wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it, and they just kind of went and like found random people who were like, "She introduced us," you know, "She introduced him to us and said he was her brother." You are not related to him at all. Not that. There's not some weird kernel of truth that threw some game. Not to my knowledge.

There we go.

So one, he did ask, "Who is this?" Person that they claim is your brother, and she never really addresses that, which is it's interesting. Obviously, this is not her current husband; she doesn't have to get into that per se, but she does ignore that question.

So, I want to point that out for people. And says the origin was a Somali blog that that kind of fed this salacious, you know, very tabloidy. Allegation against her, and it grew from there, and was adopted by right-wing conspiracy theorists, as she likes to say, and then just kind of grew from there. We don't know a lot about what the. Department of Justice is looking into.

There's been a lot of rumor about what it is. There's there's things about whether her birth date, when she was naturalized at seventeen, was fabricated to make her be able to be a minor, so be able to be naturalized based off her father's naturalization. There's rumors about that. There's rumors, obviously, about things that were fraudulent with trying to get that second husband a green card. There's a lot of.

Questions and rumor and conjecture about what's being investigated.

So I think everyone should be very careful that we don't know what is fully being investigated. We know that there's the the leak, if you want to call it, that there was DNA evidence obtained, or DNA was was obtained from her.

So there's a a lot out there, and if you're going to do a PR move interview, it's the only reason you do this. She didn't help herself.

Now there are some, and and once again, you can you can quarterback this any way you want. That think that no, that was specific to try and give that answer of not to my knowledge. I personally, I want to hear from you. Do you agree with me or disagree with me? I think was an off the cuff remark, and I think that's the danger of doing these interviews.

I think the way she said "not to my knowledge" was supposed to be like flipping and and belittling to the claim. Because he even says, "Is there's no kernel of truth? Not that you're some way related to him, distant cousin, you know, something like that." But but even that, not just being able to just say, "No, of course not." That should have been the off the cuff answer. I still think it was off the cuff. I think it was unfortunate, and I think she did more damage to her PR campaign by even giving this interview.

But I want to hear from you. What do you think? Do you think that it was calculated? Do you think she was trying to hedge by saying "not to my knowledge" when things come out? I don't think she needed to do that.

I think the best thing, if that were what they were concerned about, is don't talk about it. Don't go on MSN. You're you're not going to lose your election. Who are you trying to fix your reputation for? Conservatives that don't watch MSN.

People that are, as you call it, saying spreading salacious rumors that are unfounded online. Why did you do this? Give me a call one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. When we come back, we also have some fascinating information. Out of the House Judiciary Committee, trying to get answers about those voter rolls in New Jersey.

Remember, we talked about this, where the motor voter laws, the the automatic registration, when you get your driver's license in the state of New Jersey, was signing up people. It was a software glitch, they said, signing up people that were not eligible to vote and being added to the voter rolls automatically. And we talked about it. They said they fixed it. They caught it.

You know, we did a good job here, hoping that it would go away.

Well, it's not going away. The House Judiciary Committee right now is issuing subpoenas to government officials, and we'll get into that in the next segment about this very issue. Is that concerning to you? That a lot of these states now we're finding out. We talked about what we talked about in California yesterday.

We'll give more information on that. All of these rolls that we were told for so long don't need to be cleaned up. All of a sudden, they're admitting, "No, there's problems with our voter rolls, but don't worry, we've moved the goalpost. It's not going to be outcome determinative. It's not even a lot.

It's not going to change anything. It's such a minuscule percentage." Why do these individuals not want their voter rolls clean? That's the big question. We'll get into that in the next segment. And as always, support the work of the ACLJ at aclj.

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Welcome back to Secular. I am going to shift topics a little bit, and for those of you watching as well, I teased at the very beginning that the Assistant Attorney General for the DOJ's Fraud Division has announced it at 12:30, so 10 minutes from now, we will have an announcement about fraud. There's some inklings of what it might be. I might tease that out here in a minute, but stick with me and click like and subscribe if you're not subscribed to the channel. To make sure you catch that, because he said it's going to be a massive fraud announcement out of Los Angeles.

So very interested in what it could be. Stick around with me, so we can get to that, and you'll get that news as it's breaking.

So stick around. But I did want to get to this in this segment. Because yesterday it was announced that the Senate, sorry, not the Senate, the House Judiciary Committee, the Republicans have subpoenaed the New Jersey Secretary of State for information on the state registering over six thousand non-citizens to vote. If you are watching on one of our social channels on YouTube or Rumble or Facebook, you saw a video in the break that kind of caught you up to that. What this was was that.

There were 6,600 non-citizens that were placed on the New Jersey voter rolls. In what the current governor claimed was a software error, where basically the software that connected drivers' licenses, because you can get a driver's license here if you are a resident or a permanent resident, a green card holder, things of that nature, that doesn't give you the right to vote. But the motor voter law that that has been around for a very long time. Many states have different ways it's implemented, but this was where you were automatically signed up. Up to you were registered to vote when you got your driver's license.

The New Jersey system was supposed to filter out those that are not citizens and therefore did not have the right to be added to the voter rolls, and it didn't work. Six thousand six hundred at least were placed on the rolls now. The committee is asking for the the Secretary of State to produce sufficient documents responsive to the committee's oversight request concerning the registration of approximately sixty six hundred non citizen voters between June twenty twenty three and June twenty twenty four. Also, it's very interesting the timeline there, as everyone tells Republicans. And in conservatives, no, there's not non-citizens on the rolls.

We don't need to clean them up. We don't need voter ID. Don't worry, this is a nothing burger. The specific time period of this glitch. How many coincidences will we get in our voting system?

That for the year of June. To June of twenty three to twenty four, during primaries and a general election build up, the voter rolls got beefed up with non citizen voters added to the list. I mean, these coincidences are laughable when they try to play them off as a software glitch.

So we're gonna see what the committee can get at this. They're requesting documents and information about compliance with applicable federal voting laws. They say to date the department's response has been inadequate. The department has produced only twelve. Total documents, and has not produced any documents to explain how the alleged software error, resulting in the registration of non citizens, was discovered, or why non citizens remained on voter rolls until twenty twenty six.

These are the two topics that the committee wants to get to the bottom of. Also, the ACLJ is involved in this as well. We have actions going out next week that we will fill you up, fill you in on when we get to it about our questions we have for the state as we want to get to the bottom of it as well. Remember, we also got information out of the state of California. We told you this yesterday.

That our state FOIA is there produced. That let's see here, the Secretary of State's office. We asked them. You know we know this is a thing. How do you track non-citizen voters that are on your rolls?

How do you ensure that they are not registered? And they say, "Well, we don't track it." Okay, so that's not a thing we do here, Secretary of State of California's office. But don't worry, it's illegal if they do.

Okay, so the Secretary of State's office tells us in California. At the same time, all of these questions around what's going on in New Jersey, they tell us, "Don't worry, it's okay. It would be illegal if if they did that. We don't track it, though." We also asked the Attorney General's Office of California, "Hey, how? What procedures do you have to you know investigate it when it does happen?" They gave us no records.

Why? They have no records related to the enforcement or policies or procedures of investigating the crime of voting illegally in the state of California. At the same time, what do we see? We see that yesterday in a court filing, it came out that the city of Los Angeles also said the registrar in Los Angeles, the person who registers you to vote. Say we don't have procedures that track this.

We have no way to verify citizenship. The only thing we have is the statement from the voter, because it's illegal if they lie to us. But we're not going to track it. We're not going to investigate it. We're not going to get to the bottom of it.

That was their court filing, fighting back against. The government that's trying to say we need to look at your voter rolls, we have questions about twenty thousand voters, and here's where it gets laughable too, because it used to be don't listen to conservatives when they say there's problems with people that are non citizens voting. They call it conspiracy theories, election deniers. All of the pejorative terms they've used against people that just want to see the faith in our elections upheld—that when you go vote, your vote will be counted, and it's not going to be canceled out by someone who's not voting legally. Pretty simple request, right?

You'd think so. You'd think that every American, especially an elected official, would want the same thing. They don't want to have an illegitimate election, allegedly. They want to say I was elected because I know and I have faith in our election system. But the press office of Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, he had this to say about the arrests that took place from the Department of Justice of people that had voted that weren't supposed to vote in California earlier this week.

Any credible allegation of voter fraud should be taken seriously and investigated. I agree. Great. In the tweet, that's it. Let it be.

But wait, there's more. That being said, so erase everything I said before. The action by Trump's Department of Justice charging 28 individuals suggests they have no evidence to back up their claims. Just last week, of tens or hundreds of thousands of illegally registered voters. I want to dissect that for a second here.

I'm going to run out of time in this segment. Those are two separate things. The twenty-eight individuals that they were charged with voting illegally—so being on the roll and then taking the action—that has nothing to do with the claim that there are tens or hundreds of thousands of people on your voter rolls that shouldn't be. One of those individuals that was arrested came forward and said, "I've never registered to vote, nor have I ever voted because I'm not allowed to." Raises a lot of questions there. If he's telling the truth, how many other individuals that the are having their name used to get on the voter rolls, and they don't know a thing about it?

I'll break more of this down when I get back because there's a lot more here. Stick with me. Also, we're watching that fraud announcement, but the ACLJ is fighting for you and fighting to protect the integrity of our elections. Donate today at aclj.org. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever.

This is Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haynes here, and if you want to talk to me about any of these topics we've covered so far, one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. I'm going to go right to a phone call. Then I'm going to get right back to this post by Governor Newsom's press office.

But Kathy is calling from Kentucky on line one. Kathy, welcome to Sekulow. You're on the air. Thank you for taking my call. One comment: Soviet, Soviet Georgia.

Stalin was not Russian. He was not German. He was from Soviet Georgia, and he called those likely to be open to the sway by communist propaganda useful idiots. And I am playing in as. Everybody, to pray that the American voters will swarm to their polling places to prove that we do not want useful idiots among our leadership.

Kathy, thank you for the call. And one, yes, I mean we we don't want useful idiots, as you said, and quoting Joseph Stalin that that's what he used as propaganda and how he was able to control things.

So with an iron fist. But but here's the deal too, and I your call for every American voter, regardless of party, regardless of of political philosophy. Should be able to vote and go vote and have confidence that their vote means something, that their vote isn't canceled out by people that are voting that shouldn't be, no matter how small. And I think that's also the where they've moved the goalpost here. I'm going to get back to this this post on X by Governor Newsom.

Because he said, as I remind you earlier, said any credible allegation of voter fraud should be taken seriously and investigated. Good, we agree. Full stop. Leave it there. Don't keep talking.

Oh no, he's going to keep talking. He says that. Being said, the action by Trump's DOJ charging just twenty-eight individuals suggests that they have no evidence to back up their claims. Just last week of tens of hundreds of thousands of illegally registered voters. Those are two different things.

Being able to prove in a case to indict someone that they voted illegally is different than saying your voter rolls need to be cleaned up by law, and you're not doing it, and you're fighting us on trying to get to the bottom of it.

Something is strange is afoot. But also, him saying just 28 individuals, you're the governor of California. You represent all Californians. Not just those that elected you. At least that's the way it should be.

I don't know where your political philosophy is, Governor Newsom, but by saying just 28 individuals, they're indicted for stealing the vote of someone else. What is? What do I mean by stealing the vote of someone else? 28 Californians had their vote canceled out, no matter who they were voting for. Because 28 people voted illegally, that were not allowed to vote, that had no right to vote, and so those people that have the sacred right to vote in our elections in this country had them canceled out.

You should be outraged by that. You shouldn't have to say that. Being said, erase what you said above that. I'll continue. Yes, non-citizen voter registration and voting does happen in isolated instances in California and the rest of the country alike, but it is so rare that the Trump administration parading around town about point zero zero zero.

One percent of California voters. If the feds were serious about this, they would have done this long ago, not in the middle of people voting, which inherently and needlessly sows distrust and doubt in our democracy. No, what needlessly sows distrust and doubt in our democracy is when you fight the federal government that's been trying to do this with you since they came into office as the Trump administration. You fought them every step of the way. You fight voter ID.

You you make It very difficult for the federal government. You're not working with them as partners. You're antagonists. You're fighting them in court over trying to do this and trying to build up and give people trust. And confidence in our elections, not distrust and doubt in our democracy, as you put it here.

I'm sorry, Governor Newsom, when you fight these things and belittle it with minuscule percentages of your your population, you are the one sowing distrust because you're disenfranchising your voters. Welcome back to Sekulow. If you want to talk to me on air about the the voting situation, if you want to talk about the Ilan Omar situation, give me a call one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. We have two segments left: this one and then the following one, where I will be taking calls in any of them. If you give me a call at one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero, I did want to give you an update, as I mentioned at the top of the show, that we were expecting an announcement.

From the Assistant Attorney General for the DOJ's Fraud Division, Colin McDonald, about a major fraud announcement out of Los Angeles, and it appears, and that that is ongoing. I've got my team listening to it, but what what we've got so far is they have busted a medical fraud ring that was open operating secretly in California. That they are being accused of stealing two billion dollars. This is fifteen defendants that are being charged in this, including medical professionals, and they are being charged for making fraudulent claims to the government and private healthcare programs, including a one point six billion dollar scheme that was in a sham rehab case. This is the largest of its type that they say.

This is wild, folks. That when when the administration came in to office and Doge was demonized by everyone of trying to root out waste, fraud, and abuse, and we were told. It's not that much. You can't. No, it's not.

Don't do this. Actually, please leave these agencies alone. They're doing good work. They're they're bureaucrats that have just the the best of intentions. They're altruistic human beings.

Just just leave them alone. Doge just is illegal. Oh, how dare Elon Musk say I'm taking a chainsaw to to the bureaucracy and trying to cut programs and things. Two billion dollars, and here's the thing: you can have a policy debate about how much of the federal budget goes to programs, reimbursements, Medicare, Medicaid. You can have those debates in this country.

Whether or not it's the best program, whether or not it's efficient, whether or not that's going to help people. We don't have those debates anymore, though they're gone. Why? Because it's not a debate on whether or not those are good programs or it should be reformed. It's a debate now on whether you can stop people stealing taxpayer money or not.

So. What we see here, and what's been happening all over the country, we've seen it in Ohio, we've seen it in Michigan—not Michigan, I'm sorry, Minnesota. I'm sure there's some going on in Michigan as well, but all over the country, it's not isolated to red states or blue states. It's not isolated to one particular program. The amount of fraud they're finding in individual cases: two billion dollars in just this case, just 15 defendants stealing that much money.

That is your money. This is federal dollars, taxpayer dollars that people work hard for. That they fight for the American dream. They fight for a better economy, and at the same time, you see everyone saying that you know our economy is destroyed because of an illegal war in Iran, et cetera, et cetera, and they keep going on and on. When how long have these fraud schemes been going?

You catch somebody? Are they going to be able to recover this two billion dollars that was stolen? But a lot of that's already gone, already spent. Yeah, you can have a two billion dollar judgment. These people go to jail.

But the hardworking Americans that pay their taxes and expect their government to take care, to be good stewards of that taxpayer money, have just been letting it walk out the door for decades.

So yeah, this is an important story, and two billion dollars oddly doesn't sound like that much anymore. Why? Because of how many billions and billions and billions across the country have just been stolen from the American people, and the fight—it's the same fight. It's been so partisan. This isn't an issue that should be left versus right, Democrat versus Republican.

This should be law-abiding citizens versus criminals, and I would hope all the politicians are on the side of the law-abiding taxpayers that want to see their money stewarded well, and that hasn't been happening for a very long time across administrations, across the bureaucracy. Across the political spectrum, this shouldn't be partisan. This shouldn't be something that we get a tweet tomorrow from Gavin Newsom that says it was only 15 people defrauding. This can't be mass fraud if it's only 15 people. Oh, he would never say that, right?

I don't know. He said it about just 28 individuals voting illegally. And yet, two billion dollars is a lot of money, but you know what's sacred? Our right to vote.

So he's belittling one. Why wouldn't he belittle the other? This is the problem with people that want to—I don't know—be elected to a bigger office in twenty twenty eight. And I think honestly, where they're failing so much, and I hate to give them, you know, advice here. I gave Ilan Omar's press team advice in the in the first part of this broadcast about maybe you shouldn't do these interviews.

But when you look at this, it's like maybe you could be a uniter if you're on the left and not just buy into every rewritten DSA platform plank that you're going to adopt in 2028. As the DNC, and maybe you could say, "I'm on board. Let's do this together." DOJ instead of saying Trump's DOJ, Trump's handpicked Attorney General. All of these words are just meant to tear down your trust in the institutions. And when they get into office, they're not going to say, "Let's rebuild the trust of the institutions." They're going to say, "For my people, my constituents, those that voted for me, I want you to trust it because you did the right thing.

You voted for me." No administration's perfect. Not everything the Trump administration's done is perfect, but this is something that should be getting everyone, right or left, fired up about the fact that two billion dollars in medical fraud rings. If you care about healthcare in this country, if that's your position, which in the DSA they want to move to single payer, they want the government to be in charge of all of it. We don't have a good track record right now, post Obamacare, of the government keeping a good eye on things. They were able to get more involved in regulation of the entire medical industry post Obamacare.

The crowning achievement of the Obama administration, as Joe Biden called it, a big deal. If you remember, he put it more colorfully, but. What have we seen? An explosion of fraud all across the country, and you're not seeing the same people that want everyone to have healthcare as a human right, as they call it. Outraged about this, instead they'll find a way to say it's Trump's fault or it's Republicans' fault, or they did this or they did that.

Instead of saying, "Yeah, let's actually applaud this measure," let's applaud rooting out fraud across this country. Because you know what? Regardless of where we are, you can have the policy debate later. But if we are paying for it, If this is the way that things go with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, every government entitlement program, you can't get to the debate on whether or not it's the best use of the money. If right now it's the worst use of the money, because a lot of that money is just being walked out the door and enriching people.

They this one individual they had to send SWAT teams in. To this allegedly, this is way it's put: armed and dangerous chiropractor accused of keeping an arsenal in his two million dollar mansion.

Well, I'm sure if you're a criminal, a two billion dollar criminal, you're probably a little paranoid that someone's going to catch you.

So that's what is disheartening at this where. They're going to say this is a political move. They're going to say, "Oh, you're trying to make California look bad right before the midterms." All of this is what they're saying. That's what he even said. Like, "Oh, you're arrested illegal voters that were in the middle of an election season.

You can't, you can't make sure that people don't vote even illegally during the middle of midterms." Unbelievable. How how how do they feel okay putting these statements out? This should be the unifying issues. They don't want it to be because they don't want. That's the political game now.

They actually don't want half the country to trust in our elections or to trust in our government. They want them to be completely demoralized, so they stay home.

So, in less than two weeks from now. On a Tuesday, if they haven't already voted or done so in a different way, when it comes to taking some time out of your lunch break to go to the polls, because you're hardworking American, like I don't have the time today. That's what they hope for. It is truly remarkable where we are. And next week, we have a really special week coming up.

About election integrity, that we'll tell you more about next week. But it's really important, and it's really key work that we do here at the ACLJ. We got some big revelations that we're going to be able to break to you and tell you about next week as well.

So stay tuned for that. But right now, support the work of the ACLJ at aclj.org, and I'll be right back with your phone calls. Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haynes here. I'm going to get straight to your phone calls.

I've got two ACLJ champions on the line, but now I get to look at who's been online longer. Eleanor calling from California on line one. ACLJ champion, you're on the air. Thank you so much. How are you doing?

Doing well. How are you? I am doing fine, thank you. I want to say something about the voting problem. Yes.

When you come to the United States legally, you can wait five years before you become a citizen. Me and my family, we did that, and it's so easy. When you go register, just bring your citizenship paper, and there's no question about you being here legal or illegally. To me, that seems to be the answer to all the problems that we're having with the illegal people registering for voting. Right, and once again, Eleanor, right?

It is so simple, but they try to say it's so hard, it's so difficult. If you have to bring a document just to show you're a citizen, then then what are we doing here? That that's the problem, and it shows really the truth of what the angle is here: is that they they want it muddy. Want it more difficult? They want their opponents to not have faith in the integrity of the election.

Why? So that they just feel like it's not worth it, and they stay home. And you start to see that. You start to see kind of I call them the conservative nihilists online that say it's not worth it anymore. Not every single promise has been fulfilled.

This isn't what I thought it was going to be. What's the point? You're buying into the propaganda of the political opponents of the people that you supported. That's what they want you to feel. They want you to feel disenfranchised.

They want you to feel hopeless, and they want you to walk away from the process. That that's that's part of the problem, and that's what we're seeing. Thank you so much for your call, Eleanor. Very important call. Let's go to Jim calling from Maryland on line four.

Also an ACLJ champion. That's someone who gives a recurring donation monthly, and you can do that too at aclj.org/champions. But Jim from Maryland, you're on the air.

Well, first I want to say thanks for ACLJ does for the American people. What I'm interested in knowing is that. OJ, in the process of investigating all the fraud involved with the EOs, where we money was sent to companies overseas to help people, and then money back into corrupt politics hands. Are they going to be indicting this? And will the AJ open up a class action lawsuit?

To get to the bottom, well, Jim, there's several points there I want to address really quickly. One, I know one that was a big problem that they were. Trying to expose through Doge, kind of the the NGO world, mainly. I mean, people use that broadly for like nonprofits, but NGO specifically that work abroad that get grants from the government. That's really their only source of funding, and kind of work as an extension of the government.

That they were there. There was a lot of discussion about that early on in the administration around Doge. And then, obviously, that was one of the big spots that people were very upset about on the left, saying, "No, no, no! You can't look into this." The class action. I defer to the attorneys here at the ACLJ whether that's something they could do.

A lot of times, those type of of actions against the government would be difficult per se, but it is something we could look into, especially with our FOIA work as things to try to get more information on. You're also from Maryland. Stay tuned next week. Pay attention early to mid next week when we're talking about our voter election integrity project that we have. We we Might be able to break some pretty big news next week, so I encourage you to, if you're watching Jim, especially from Maryland, but others, there's some big things coming that we have been working on that I think our audience will appreciate.

That this is the work that ACLSJ is doing, and what we are able to do after that is we are able to showcase this and talk about the next steps.

So, Jim, thank you for calling. I'm going to go straight to Harley from North Carolina, watching on YouTube. Harley, you are on Sekulow. Hey, how you doing today? We're doing well.

I've got a little off base question I need to ask.

Okay, I I got into politics a few years back, and I've been listening to everything. But there is a name that's in the back of my head that no one's mentioned.

So I would like to ask the question. What is Christopher Ray not being prosecuted for the stuff that he did when he went into office?

So, the way I look at it, let me—I'll be done one second. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. The way I look at it, we paid him to do the right thing when he went into office, and he was supposed to be a Republican. Why would he go and raid Trump's office?

Why would he? Half of this stuff that was allowed to to happen with Biden in there. Why? Did he not get prosecuted for some of this, or no one is talking about him? Yeah, Harley, it's something that we actually have talked about here on this broadcast many times, especially not even just the Trump stuff, but all of the things that, and even some of the allegations that he misled Congress about the source of of the the spies and the agents under cover and the targeting and tracking of Catholic churches that he was doing.

You know, violation of First Amendment protections. And the intimidation that we saw there, we actually uncovered a lot of the stuff where he was saying it was a lone memo out of of Richmond, and it didn't go anywhere. Was not true.

Now, to some degree, it's up to the Department of Justice and also Congress to refer that over. I'm not sure the status of that currently, but but he he was at best not forthcoming, the lie of omission, right about those things. At worst, some of them could have been outright. Perjury to Congress.

Now, as we see with a lot of people, that's not always an easy crime to prosecute. There's statutes of limitations; they run out the clock. Here's another thing I also bring up too: is that sometimes the constitutional violations that you see from people in office. There, there could be recourse for individuals that have their rights violated to sue in a civil way to get their rights restored, et cetera, if their rights have been violated. We see that when.

There, you know, some of our street preacher cases and things of that nature, where we go after the city of Chicago and say, you know, you violated the rights. We need to ensure this never happens again. But it doesn't necessarily always mean that there is a criminal statute that was violated when they violated your. Your civil rights, your your constitutional rights, and so sometimes, and this is me speaking broadly, why sometimes you see things that look corrupt or or are corrupt that they or they abuse their power, abuse their office in a way that may not be directly criminally prosecutable because there isn't specifically a criminal statute with penalties baked in that they could take for that individual, and a lot of times they're very very difficult. Cases to prosecute as well, so I always like to bring that up as well.

It's not always that this individual violated everyone's rights, was doing something that was illegal in the sense that it violated the Constitution, but it wasn't necessarily something that has a criminal statute attached.

Now, in many cases, there are those as well.

So, but that's up to Department of Justice. We cannot, as an organization, bring a charge against someone. But thank you for your call. I'm so. Thankful for all of you that called later in the show.

Wish you'd called a little bit earlier. I would have taken you. I'm sorry, Jerry and Jimmy. Call back tomorrow, though. I'm back here.

Jordan is hoping to join us from D.C. He's in there for some big meetings.

So if that works out. We'll have Jordan joining us from there as well.

So go ahead and call me back tomorrow, though. I'd love to take your calls tomorrow. They're very good questions. But as we wrap up this show today, I want to remind you. I've talked about a lot of this election integrity work that we're doing.

We're doing it all across the country: New Jersey, California, Maryland. I hinted at a lot of other places, and we do all this work. Because of you, support the ACLJ with your financial gift today.