BREAKING: Hegseth Prepares for War

We've got breaking news. Pete Hexxitz won't rule out war with Iran. Of course, in studio with me as well.

Phone lines are open for your calls at 1-800-684-3110. We'd love to hear from you and what we're talking about today. Not only did Pete Hexxitz say, hey, we're not going to rule out war with Iran, it was essentially confirmed that there were those face-to-face talks and round two is on the horizon. And that's a good thing, according to the administration. They said, hey, you know, we've had our issues in the past with Iran, maybe having some issues currently with Iran, but we can sit down face-to-face and have this issue at a negotiating table instead of potentially in the battlefield.

That's right. And so with this, these comments from Secretary Hexxitz, which we'll get to in a moment, do stem from this first round of talks that took place in Oman over the weekend on Saturday. There were some discrepancies in how they were described. The U.S. said we'll be having direct talks. The Iranians pushed back on that and said, no, they're indirect talks. And what the reality was is that they were the indirect talks where they're in two different conference rooms and there's a mediator that goes in between. That is the traditional style when you don't have this diplomatic relationship with the foreign power. However, there was pre-planned a meeting between Steve Wyckoff, who's the President's envoy on these things, and the foreign minister of Iran. But this pre-planned meeting where the two spoke for about 45 minutes was staged to appear as a chance meeting, a chance opportunity.

Some would say like a tarmac meeting. Right. Well, I wouldn't go that far. That has bad connotations, Logan. But yes.

Just being funny, Will. They did speak for about 45 minutes. This has been described by administration officials that they are satisfied with how the first round went and that they will be continuing these talks in Rome this coming Saturday. So a second round, this time in a European country.

And it's very interesting. When in Rome. Yeah. No, I said, well, it's in Rome.

Right. But when in Rome, negotiate nuclear peace. Rome, if you want to. Well, there you go. Around the world. Around the world.

Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We have a lot of comments coming in. A lot of people are unsure. They've heard people like Mike Pompeo on this show. They've heard other people who've been like, you know, we've got to be careful when we're sitting down with some people. Iran may be one of them.

But there's some good quotes from Pete Hegseth. I think you'd hear from him yourself. Look, and currently right now, by the way, President Trump and his cabinet are meeting with the El Salvador's President. So we're going to monitor that and see if there's anything worth sharing.

Of course, this is kind of the public portion of the meeting, which will happen in front of the news cameras. President Trump had a very busy weekend. You may have seen him at the UFC event. My family, we get around. All of us get around the fireplace and we watch the UFC every couple months. And of course, you've got to see what was crazy.

And it is cool, but it's also crazy. You had, and we'll save Pete Hegseth for the next segment. You'll hear from him. You had President Trump. You had Tulsi Gabbard. You had Elon Musk. You had Ted Cruz. And there was other, oh, Kash Patel. You had other members of the cabinet sitting there. And there was part of me going, like, they're all here. Like all the, a little bit. I was like, no, it's fine with me. I love the UFC.

So it was really fun to watch. But there were part of me like JD Vance is the only one that didn't show up. He didn't get to be there. But I'm like, well, someone's got to stay home. There's some kind of emergency here. The state of the union, the lone survivor, where they, the designated survivor rather, where they, they have one person remain. They don't name who it is.

Do they have to do this for these UFC events now? Be like, okay, somebody's got to stay back. Sorry. It's your turn.

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1-800-684-3110. Probably need to restate some of the news that's happening. Well, breaking news. A couple items are happening. President Trump right now is meeting with the El Salvadorian President at the White House right now.

There's a whole, the cabinet is there. They're having a lot of discussions. We're going to go through whether there's anything there worth really covering. Again, this is kind of that public display, but also Pete Hegseth made a statement talking about those sit-down conversations, whether they were planned or unplanned or whatever happened with Iran. And of course, they pushed him and said, hey, are you going to rule out war? And who would, if you are Pete Hegseth, if you really, you can't say those kinds of statements because you never know what another country is going to do. You want to try to avoid war. No one wants a war. I'm pretty sure if I asked for a show of hands, how many people want to go to war with Iran, it would be pretty low, hopefully, from our listenership, from our viewers on YouTube and Rumble or on ACLJ.org or even our crew here, because no one really wants this war to happen. But there has to be procedures to set in place to make sure that our country is safe and as well as that our allies are safe.

Let's hear first from Pete Hegseth so you have an idea of where we're setting up here. Well, I can tell you that President Trump is dead serious on this issue. He's dead serious that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. He said that for 20 years. He's been consistent.

That is clear. He's dead serious that he wants it done at the negotiating table. He wants it done peacefully. And that's why he's going straight to these talks. He set that deadline. These were productive talks yesterday. I don't want to get ahead of our skis.

Steve Woodcough does a fantastic job, but it was a good step and they're going to they're going to go at it again on Saturday. But he's also dead serious that if we can't figure this out at the negotiating table, then there are other options to include my department to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear bomb. We hope we never get there.

We really do, Maria. But what we're doing with the Houthis and what we're doing in the region, we've shown a capability to go far, to go deep and to go big. And again, we don't want to do that. But if we have to, we will to prevent the nuclear bomb in Iran's hands. What you're seeing, Logan, in the media now is trying to characterize this as things like Pete Hegseth won't rule out war. I mean, even our title is that he's preparing for war. That is actually the job of the secretary of defense is to always be prepared for a potential war or the option of war. But you are going to start to see the media try to spin this as President Trump and Pete Hegseth are looking for war.

I think what they are doing is, once again, the negotiation that it takes to actually get to a point of getting some real resolution. During the Obama administration with the JCPOA, Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, which was the first Iran nuclear deal that the Obama administration put forward, that was where Iran gets money. We get pseudo oversight through the UN and through the IAEA. And nothing really happens except for Iran gets closer and closer to a nuclear bomb. There was no real credible threat that if they violated this and kept going forward, which we know that they've been violating it the entire time, that the United States would actually do anything. If we are serious that the largest state sponsor of terrorism cannot have a nuclear weapon, because we know what they would do with that. And we know that the nuclear arms race that would be set off in the Middle East, the least stable region of the globe right now, then it has to be coupled with a real serious credible threat of military action to take out that. So I don't think that that's what the President wants. I think he is genuinely one of the least war hungry Presidents that we've seen in our lifetime for sure. Yeah, he'll push it.

I think he'll, like you said, you know that if he has to do it, he will and he will push an angle saying, hey, maybe scare them a little. But our hope is that we don't get there because you don't want to be in a war with Iran. I think we need to also have a little global reset for those who maybe don't understand the region as well. Iran is not Gaza. Iran is not, you know, this, I mean, they are helping funding all of that, but when in terms of their reach, their impact, their power, this is a real player on the world stage and a scary real player on the world stage. When you're talking about look up cities like Tehran, go look at it. It's again, this is not what you picture as really the Middle East.

This is a real area that could do real havoc and damage to America. And while the people of Iran, many of the people of Iran are suffering under the rule of there because Iran actually could be a very wealthy, prosperous country, but the mullahs of Iran, the Ayatollah, they use the money that they make. The industry that is all connected to the IRGC in Iran, the businesses is like a cartel within their elite paramilitary IRGC there.

What you start to see is that this, what could be prosperous kind of example in the Middle East and the Western part of Asia is a complete opposite. You know that they have these capabilities because they spend the money that these businesses, that the government has on terror, on building up a nuclear weapons program. So it takes serious tough talk to one, even get them to the negotiating table. There's that famous quote where President Trump said that, you know, he didn't like Ambassador John Bolton and he was terrible, awful, said all that, but he said, you know, he was useful because everyone thought he was crazy enough to drop a nuclear bomb on them. And so there has to be that credible threat of military force. If you want someone like Iran that only knows how to react to that, to come to the actual table, to get something done.

I don't think that President Obama, I know for a fact, never had that real credible threat. And I think also it enlightens us a little bit more about this campaign about the Houthis, which is opening up that shipping lane is kind of the stated goal. This is the entire issue that, you know, Signal Gate was about. But Pete Hegseth talked about that as well, about why they are doing what they're doing with the Houthis and how that is also sending a signal to Iran.

Let's play by two from Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth. We know, Maria, that Iran's taking a look at what's happening to the Houthis and realizing they don't want any part of it. And that's because we've dismantled, we're dismantling the Houthis capabilities. We're even hearing rumblings of them second guessing what they're doing. Ultimately, we just want to open up our shipping lanes.

That's it. It's a very narrow interest with the Houthis, but it sends a clear signal to Iran as well. You're not going to mess with the United States. Iran, come to the table, negotiate full dismantlement of your of your nuclear capabilities.

And then that doesn't have to be your future. Of course, we are a year and a day, a year and a day just from when Israel had so many rockets and 300 drones and missiles. Ninety-nine percent, of course, were stopped, which was great, but aimed at Jerusalem. Of course, that was pretty much known to be coming from Iran. That was, you know, they stated it. There was that whole moment of, well, they sent them, but, you know, they gave them a little warning and we knew it was coming, so they were able to shoot them all down. So Israel wasn't allowed to respond. And that whole debate always happens. But that was a year ago. Of course, this is during the season of Passover, which just began.

A lot of people had their saders over the weekend. We saw direct threats to some of our officials here in this country. We'll talk about that a little bit later as well with Rick Grenell. So we saw that happen in Pennsylvania.

But phone lines are open for you. As I said, we will take some more calls coming up. And in the next segment, we're also going to discuss some of the work of the ACLJ, because there's some big movements, Will, we can tease it out a little bit, about what's going on. And of course, we are in the middle of our life in Liberty Drive, and we need your support. But this is the reason why we need your support.

That's right. So if you'll remember towards the end of last year, when we discovered that training slide at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, that was labeling groups like Operation Rescue, the National Right to Life, people with the license plate that says Choose Life under a slide talking about terrorist groups. And we did an investigation. We were told that that would stop. We sent FOIAs. We were told the Army was doing an investigation into it. And we earlier, a couple weeks back, we told you we got the full training deck finally from our FOIA.

We also saw that there was some hints of maybe anti-Semitism, where they said the first origins of terrorism were from Jews known as the Zealots. But regardless, we kept pushing to get more information from the FOIA, and we just got another release. And this is the full document of the Army's investigation into how this happened. Now, we were told this would no longer be the training, and we got those assurances.

But what we found out from the actual investigation they conducted was more troubling because they interviewed individuals, and they tried to see how this ended up where terrorist organizations and then these groups were listed. And I'm gonna read before we get to... You want me to go for it or what? We got a minute. Okay. So we'll tell what their rationale, which doesn't make anything better at all. Their cover-up that the Army did in this bottom line up front executive summary.

This is where you see-crest them and go right after this. And that's what we're gonna tell you, exactly what they discovered and how they tried to make this go away and why we're not taking this investigation as the end of this. We're gonna keep pushing. Absolutely. It's not over.

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1-800-684-3110. I always like to spend a little bit of the show, at least not only break down the breaking news items that are happening, but the breaking news items that are happening within the walls of the ACLJ, which are pretty broad walls because it goes all over the world. CeCe Hiles joining us, senior attorney here at the ACLJ because, Will, let you set this up again because you were the master teaser in the last one. You're like, here we go.

Will went full Seacrest and what's going on here with this situation, you may remember it, where the military was training their soldiers, their team on here, some terrorist groups you need to watch out for. Of course, we're talking about pro-lifers. We're talking about your, your Meemaw and Pawpaw who have their choose life license plate on it. Again, no offense to your parents. I think they had them, but you know, they are offending them right now. They are grandparents. It's just true. They had it when they were just parents. They've had it a long time, long time. Maybe the OGs, if you will. But labeling these groups again, this is kind of like what happened. I feel like with the pro-life pregnancy centers, which is you're attacking people that are usually some of the kindest, most volunteer centered, sweetest people that you've ever met that are just there to hopefully save babies lives. And of course we can then have our own United States military saying, you got to watch out for these people.

They're terrorists. Now we have had a couple updates. We had it confirmed. And then we got a bunch of FOIA documents out that said, here is what broke down. And when you really start to dig, you'll learn a lot more.

That's right. So in the, what's kind of the executive summary. So at the very top of the investigation introducing who the investigator is, what their goal was, and then what their findings were before then, I mean, almost a hundred pages of investigation documents.

Here's what they describe about this investigation. On July 15, 2024, I was appointed to investigate the facts and circumstances surrounding terrorism awareness training conducted on the 10th of July, 2024 by a Fort Liberty directorate for emergency services employee. The terrorism awareness presentation incorrectly listed several organizations, EG, the people for ethical treatment of animals, national right to life and operation rescue on slides labeled terrorist groups. Labeling the slide terrorist groups was a mistake that likely occurred when redacted, used several slides from a larger, older presentation. Redacted inserted group names, not present in the earlier version into the revised presentation without paying attention to the slide title and without considering how this visually misrepresented what redacted was attempting to convey.

So through all of this, what the army concluded CC was that there was a mistake that happened. The mistake wasn't in this terrorism awareness training of talking about these groups, national right to life, operation rescue, people that have license plates that say choose life, sidewalk counselors. The mistake was in the terrorism awareness training that the specific slide said terrorist groups. They can go and talk as much as they want about it and actually there's more information we'll get to in a minute, but their top line was like the big mistake was wrong label on the specific slide.

Do you buy that? Well and that's what is so egregious about this answer. When they're saying oh oops we just weren't paying attention to that slide label when we named, like you said again, all these pro-life groups and it's not just even pro-life groups, it's it's actually goes to individual people like a person who would have maybe a pro-life you know license plate or somebody who doesn't really agree with what Roe v. Wade said for. So individual people and the PRCs were included because they're in the counseling, they're in the crisis center, so they are a terrorist group and what is so sad again to point this out because this is the most egregious part, it's not that they were included in this presentation, the entire presentation terrorism awareness, it was just oops we mislabeled a slide. So they were fine being in the presentation, yes they were supposed to be in the presentation, we just mislabeled a slide.

It doesn't really say that, well when you actually look down the people who were talked to about what was said, what was said was oh yeah they were not fans. That's right because we have the interviews, the actual interviews from the investigation. Now a lot of names are redacted, things of that nature to protect, members of the military that were being interviewed. This isn't a nefarious redaction as sometimes we see from other deep state agencies, but these are the questions that were asked.

Like you just discussed the organization listed on the slide, what did he say about them? They were used as an example of showing the class not all terrorist groups come from foreign nations. Were any of the organizations listed described by redacted? Yes they were used as examples of domestic terrorists, as terrorist groups.

It goes on, another individual. Were any of the organizations listed described by redacted as terrorist groups? All of the groups that he described to my knowledge from what I remembered were considered potential terror watch groups. And then one more, did redacted discuss the organizations listed on the slide, what did redacted say about them?

Yes, he discussed them, not friendly and pay attention. So I don't care what the army tries to say about it being mislabeled terrorist groups on the slide, the content that was being trained to over 9,100 members of our military that they know of, they've been able to estimate 9,100 soldiers getting this training and they're being told regardless of the title, these are terrorist groups, you got to watch out for it. And Cece we get all this information, a treasure trove of information if you will, now what do we do with it?

Yes, so obviously it's constitutionally protected speech that they're going after. We have done a FOIA, we have done a letter, but we are now doing a follow-up letter to the Secretary of Defense saying that they have to do something immediately, they have to hold the army accountable by taking swift and decisive action to get to the bottom of this because obviously the answers we've received so far do not answer the question. So the ACLJ keeps going, yes this is not the end, I want to make sure people understand this is not the end of this, sure we're finding out the information we want but now we got to take action and we need your support also to do that. Look, just to go through these FOIA documents, Wilson how many pages? Well just on this specific production there are 94 pages in the investigative document but we're not done receiving productions from the army, this is just another round of them. So more could be uncovered, so we have to stay diligent on that track. I know over the weekend our attorneys were going through this document, sending emails back and forth, did you see this line, did you see this line, so we're crafting that letter that will go to the Secretary of Defense.

So the the big victory up front was that they acknowledged it and have said that they have stopped that portion of the training but now the battle continues because as you get this slow drip of information you find out it was as nefarious as you thought it was and their cover up by saying it was a mistakenly labeled slide isn't going to cut it. I mean we knew that couldn't be the truth that you don't just mistakenly label a bunch of groups and look I'll throw PETA in there as well. Look PETA has been known for some radical behavior but some of these pro-life organizations they are not a terrorist group, the people for the ethical treatment of animals.

You may not agree with them or you may not agree with their tactics but let's make sure that we're also defending all kinds of speech and making sure the government isn't training our military to go after that. Now thankfully when we're sending now to Secretary of Defense we're sending it to Secretary of Defense Pete Hegson, maybe a bit more active and ready to help us out, ready to help out those in the pro-life community I think likely. We can't do it without you we can't have teams of attorneys working on this day and night over the weekend without people like you who support the work of the ACLJ. Let's put up that QR code aclj.org or go scan that QR code right now you heard what CeCe and Will were just talking about. They're covering up they're targeting a pro-lifers we're not going to stand for it they are not going to be labeling them as terrorist groups we need your we need your support scan the QR code go to aclj.org and have your impact doubled today.

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threat happens guess what's going to happen the U.S. military is one of the strongest in the world we're going to go to war right now though that is not the plan of President Trump right now that's not the plan of the Trump administration they want to be able to sit down and unlike previous administrations they will sit down with people who are maybe a little bit more nefarious maybe they are the people who are attacking and killing innocents but we can't get that to stop by just saying hey we're never going to talk to you you know the U.S. military is pretty strong carry a bit of weight with us as well they don't want to be in a war with America either but if it happens it happens that's right that's right and these talks that that happened over the weekend obviously the the reporting is that it kind of was distrustful at the beginning from both sides for obvious reasons the Iranians were bringing up the fact that well President Trump dropped out of the JCPOA why should we trust you to make a deal and the Trump administration doesn't believe that the JCPOA was much of a deal at all so you look at that that's where they started from from that point where like you pulled out of the last deal why would we negotiate with you but then officials on both sides say that they see a path forward after several hours of talks on Sunday so the Iranians are still saying that the next round probably won't be that direct format we'll see there's a week for them to kind of put this together it's always interesting when you look at how many how much theatrics go on with just a meeting with diplomacy how much is done behind the scenes beforehand afterwards but we are looking at this it should be in Rome this Saturday that they are both saying they see some sort of path forward we know that what President Trump wants is something that is more in line with what Libya did when Muammar Gaddafi completely dismantled his weapons of mass destruction program this is what he and Prime 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joining us welcome back to secular phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 Rick Grinnell is joining us live Rick I wanted to get your thoughts there's a lot of people commenting right now on a lot of topics whether that's what's going on currently in Pennsylvania with Governor Shapiro whether what's happening with these talks with Iran but I did want to start first a bit with what's happening with the President of El Salvador who is currently meeting with President Trump and the cabinet what should we be taking in from this meeting well look I think it's a very important meeting because they're they're actually being very clear about the rule of law and immigration I thought it was great what Stephen Miller was saying what Kristi Noem was saying and it's it's it's clear that the President of the United States President Trump is trying to make sure that we make immigration illegal immigration a priority for America and you see right in the Oval Office the President of El Salvador Na'ib Bukele is saying that President Trump has really done an amazing job of closing the border it's you know world leaders are noticing that they can't get to the point where they take advantage of the United States and it was clear in the Oval Office that the closing of the border has been a priority for President Trump and it's benefiting places like El Salvador. And Rick this is a young leader who is very charismatic in in a region that has been dominated for a long time by by tyrannical authoritarian leaders that never give up their hold on power obviously the left is not a fan of this world leader because he is not of their autocratic socialistic agenda but but seeing this here and seeing the rapport between President Trump I think it's very refreshing compared to our relationship with Central America that we've seen for decades this feels new this feels different and also he's praising President Trump on the border the job he's done on the border and things of that nature and working well with an American President this is something novel for at least in my lifetime seeing someone from Central America that has a very good relationship with the United States in this way and just wanted to know if you could speak on that. Well one thing that you're really noticing here is a brand new strategy that President Trump has as you refer to and world leaders come they sit in the Oval Office President Trump has cabinet officials that directly relate to that country in the room he invites the media in there's real-time negotiation going on the world is watching and this is such a benefit for a country like El Salvador who also has its leaders there because when you're in in the Oval Office talking to the President openly talking openly negotiating it really educates the people to to show the importance of the relationship the strength of the relationship this is good for El Salvador it's good for America and and I just feel like you know our media have always wanted to have an open transparent process Donald Trump gives them that we just watched in real time a diplomatic negotiation and I think the transparency issue is incredibly important to fix the problems of the government we don't want a secret government we don't want decisions behind the scenes and President Trump is giving us in real time an open process and I think Americans are loving it. Rick I wanted to continue this discussion on I'm just seeing images pop up on our screen from this arson attack on the Pennsylvania on Shapiro's house and you know I saw a lot of the news reports that said hey there was you know fire set and you're seeing these pictures it looks horrendous it's it's terrifying that this is what's happening this is where political violence is getting to in our country and you can say whatever you want about it whether it's political violence or it's anti-semitism it's being stoked at a place that I don't remember in recent life and I'm seeing it happen here it's really just disturbing incredibly disturbing. Look this is an admitted far-left activist socialist democratic socialist and I think it's clear that it's anti-semitic I want to know how someone can jump the fence and start a fire at the governor's mansion they need there needs to be an immediate evaluation of the security for the governor this is a horrific situation which could have been so much worse and thank god that people acted quickly but what's what's clear is we have a democratic party where this conversation continues to to fester and they're they're gonna have to get it together look as you know Logan I'm somebody who's worked very closely with our Arab and Muslim friends and so many of our Arab and Muslim friends want to make sure that Israel protects itself but after that there's a lot of discussion that needs to to be done how do we fix this I think we're all on the same goal which is to have peace in the Middle East and it's it's a question of tactics and I just feel like the democrats have avoided any conversation they always want to talk about black and white issues and that's not helpful in anybody we need to dig deep it's exactly the conversation that I had in Detroit during the campaign for three months with our Arab and Muslim friends and in many instances we're on the same page we've just got to be able to talk about the peace and achieve the peace it's one of the reasons why they supported Donald Trump is because President Trump brought peace and it was the democrats who who through Joe Biden brought multiple wars well and Rick and I think back to this this situation in Pennsylvania now we've seen two high-level attempts on on political figures in that state whether it be Butler Pennsylvania where President Trump was almost assassinated as he was campaigning and now this attack which the police are saying the individual plan to beat the governor with a hammer but so now a high-profile democrat and a high-profile republican have both been the targets of political violence in that state I think there's a lot more questions that come out of just that that this has been in Pennsylvania but as well that the the those on the left they're afraid to speak up and condemn political violence when we see fire bombing at Tesla dealerships horrific fire arson at the governor's mansion and assassination attempts this this has to stop it doesn't matter if it's Governor Shapiro who's a democrat or President Trump who's a republican or Elon Musk who's a businessman political violence does not belong here this is not how to solve these issues but it's growing and that's concerning look we need to have a democratic party that is very clear-eyed about the rule of law they can't pick and choose when to support the rule of law they can't create things like sanctuary cities which is a direct assault on federal law and we can't have a system where if you disagree with the law you just take matters into your own hands you attack someone with violence you create- safe spaces where you get to break the law and no one gets to be punished for that and that's what a sanctuary city is that's what is clear an attack on the rule of law when we start allowing people to pick and choose which laws they follow then you get political violence because people take matters into their own hands and they say I'm gonna do whatever I want regardless of the law and they justify it somehow morally because they think that they can get away with it or that they need they are allowed the media allows people to ignore the law and just do individual actions I think it's a dangerous slippery slope and I would point it directly to sanctuary cities which was the the democratic party policy to ignore federal law take matters into your own hands and create safe spaces for people who clearly are breaking federal immigration law I got about a minute left in this segment and I want to just give your you an opportunity to let me know what your thoughts are on these talks going on with Iran I know this is something that is close to you but also it can be an uncomfortable topic for a lot of people as it is negotiating with a pretty hostile regime but I know your thoughts are always be sit down see what we can do avoid war of course I want to talk as much as we can and sitting down and having Steve Witkoff look the Iranians in the eye and have these discussions is fantastic we have to remember that the Iranians are a country that the government lies about what they have in terms of the nuclear programs they they outmaneuvered John Kerry when talking about heavy water when they're talking about the number of centrifuges John Kerry went public saying that they got rid of all their centrifuges and that just wasn't true we have to remember that people like Wendy Sherman have been duped by the Iranians we in the Trump administration need to make sure that we are very clear-eyed about who we're negotiating with and we need to verify you need to almost verify first before you trust them Rick 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hear from you we do actually have some sound also which I think we should get pulled up from this meeting President Trump is having with the President of El Salvador that maybe had just wrapped up the public portion of it that was at the White House so we'll go through some of that let's take a listen actually of kind of a back and forth right now I just want to give you a bit of an inside scoop on what's happening well I can I'm supposed to have not suggested that a smuggle a terrorist into the United States right how can I smuggle how can I return him to the United States it's like I smuggle him into the United States or whether I do it of course I'm not going to do it it's like I mean the question is preposterous how can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States I don't have the power to return him to the United States you could release him inside El Salvador yeah but I'm not releasing I mean we're not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country we just turned the murder capital of the world into the safest country in the western hemisphere and you want us to go back into the releasing criminals so we can go back to being the murder capital of the world now that's good that's not gonna happen this well they'd love to have a criminal you know yeah I mean I mean there's just a fascination they would love it yeah they're sick these are sick people it's from President Trump and the President of El Salvador we have a call related to that let's go ahead and go to John from New York obviously talking about that person who is mistakenly deported but let's put that in kind of quotes let's go to John in New York here on the air yes hi so yeah this gentleman I'm talking about came here in 2011 because he he was he was being threatened his family's being threatened by gang members there in El Salvador so fast forward he got picked up by ICE he's been working here he's in an apprenticeship hasn't been any crime the administration's admitted that they made an administrative error but they're saying that they can't bring this this person back yeah and so I don't I'm not understanding that well so John to to the for everyone else also listening kind of the background on this is that a little beyond the headline the the supreme court had said that that the United States should be at least facilitating this return of this man that lived in Maryland that was deported to El Salvador there was a court protective order where he was claiming the threat of violence if he were to be deported from El Salvador so and I don't even know if it was quite to the level of an asylum claim but at least along those lines and that he was deported in the administrative error that they're talking about is that that protective order which should have stopped him from being deported was not put in place what the what the administration is arguing John and and once again we don't necessarily have all the facts on the criminal record things of that nature but their allegations from the administration is that he was a rival gang member that that is the fear of persecution that he had if he was sent back to El Salvador so in a way it's a an admission that if I go back because I'm in a rival gang then I will have retribution or fear for my life so that's where the the story is not painted by even the Atlantic as though he's just his family man suburban Maryland it's not as clear on that now what that clip we just played was the El Salvadorian President saying I don't know how I would even return this person am I going to smuggle him into the country things of that nature I think he's probably being a little hyperbolistic there but the administration is pushing back saying that they have no legal obligation from the Supreme Court to return him only that they would have to admit him if he makes it back from the high security prison I don't think that that battle in the courts is over I think that the Supreme Court may take a little bit of issue with the way that the Trump administration is categorizing that we'll see how it plays out I don't think it's over but I also think this is one of those odd scenarios it's one anecdote within the many where people are the gang members that are going being sent back to there that has some very different very novel issues surrounding it that we're not used to seeing but and I think there are plenty of people that maybe argue yeah just it's one person bring them back keep them under monitoring and go from there sure and I maybe lean that way but I also was talking to one of my friends who was who's much more liberal than I am and he was just reading the headlines and you're right reading the headlines just saying this is some family man who gets deported and this happens you're like well he was a member of ms-13 oh he was this and you start to go through the list you're like that doesn't necessarily mean that he would they admitted that it was wrong that they were not supposed to deport him out of the administrative error yeah administrative error so yeah do you think we need to clean that up and make it right yeah probably if possible but let's not paint this picture that this guy wasn't on a list for some reason right of course on a list maybe for a reason and there was another one that didn't get checked it does feel like just an error a bad error I'm not going to say it's not but an error nonetheless let's actually hear from secretary Marco Rubio about this situation this individual is a citizen of El Salvador he was illegally in the United States and was returned to his country that's where you deport people back to their country of origin except for Venezuela that wasn't refusing to take people back or places like that I can tell you this mr President no the foreign policy of the United States is conducted by the President of the United States not by a court and no court in the United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy of the United States it's that simple end of story may not be that simple end of story but that's at least how Marco Rubio wants you to right that's why the administration is taken there well and to that point the fact that there was an administrative error that they even admitted to that another court had given him a protected status because of that fear whether or not that was based off of kind of a ridiculous thing they're like oh rival gangs will get me that some judge did that I honestly think personally as far as the optics of this one this is one where it this is a single individual they could have ice monitoring there there are are ways to make this go away this story uh and not make it the only one that people talk about because it to some degree the the liberal media is able to write the better headline on this the better headline pr-wise is mistakenly deports admits in court and uh refuse to operate that I think is giving people that just get the headlines much more reservation about the foreign policy 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