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On this episode of Our American Stories, when Roger McGrath first paddled out at Malibu as a boy in the 1950s, surfing was still a small fraternity with only a few decades of history in California. The boards were heavy, the crowds were thin, and many of the men riding those waves were quietly reinventing the sport. Roger grew up among them, and decades later, he shares the story of the surfers who built the culture he fell in love with.It begins with George Freeth, who brought stand-up surfing to California, and Tom Blake, who made the massive wooden surfboard lighter and added the fin. After World War II, Joe Quigg, Matt Kivlin, and the eccentric Bob Simmons pushed the board even further, experimenting with new shapes and materials until surfers could turn faster, ride harder, and do things on a wave that had once been impossible. Support the show (https://www.ouramericanstories.com/donate)Support the show: https://www.ouramericanstories.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's a US Marine and a former UCLA professor. but he spent his youth hanging out with surfers in Malibu in Southern California. And though they weren't aware of it, they were creating a new beach culture. that would soon capture America's imagination. Here's Roger with a story.

Surfing is not a sport. Surfing is a way of life. There are no rules in surfing, no playing field or court with defined limits or boundaries. Surfing is free, natural, individualistic. The phrase surfing contest is an oxymoron.

Competition requires definition, structure, rules, governing bodies, man-made schedules, standards. everything that is the antithesis of surfing. At best, Surfing is an almost holy communion with nature. At worst, It is the ultimate hedonistic indulgence. Has anyone who has ever surfed under ideal conditions Sizable, well-shaped waves, glassy surface, blue sky.

Warm air and sea temperatures, uncrowded waters. And they were telling you what stoked means. Surfing under perfect conditions. brands a soul with an experience so powerful. and sensual.

and yet so sublime that one is never the same again.

Some are left psychically crippled. ever searching for the right combination. of conditions and letting the rest of life slip by. Drug addiction pales in comparison. If you think I'm kidding.

or you simply don't believe me. All I can say is You haven't been there. In 1989, The media made a great hullabaloo over a survey taken of surfers. One of the survey questions asked whether they'd rather surf or have sex. Eighty-three percent of the surfers answered they would rather surf.

The media was astounded and widely publicized the findings. The surfers were astounded too. and embarrassed. They even questioned the accuracy of the survey. They could not believe.

that 17% of surfers would rather have sex. The only surprise I got from the survey was the continued Nice state of surf stoke. despite horribly crowded waters. What are the essentials for a perfect day is more waves than surfers? Showing a wave, unless it is with a buddy, who anticipates your every move and you is.

destroys the experience. The essence of writing a wave is involves working harmoniously with it. doing what the wave suggests, and taking advantage of its critical portion. This can usually only be done when riding the wave alone. The great difference between surfing and say skiing Is the dynamism of a wave versus the static nature of a mountain slope?

The soap remains in place. The wave moves through the water. and is likely to change as it moves, speeding or slowing. improving its shape or turning sloppy. suddenly breaking.

or backing off. crashing with power. are gently feathery. There's nothing like it. Reared in Pacific balisades.

I was a water puppy as a young child. I would hang onto my big brother's back. as he swam through the waves and beyond the surf line. We got good. Do you want that heat me into the air?

and I would splash down a few feet away. It was sink or swim. I quickly became a proficient dog paddler. As I got a bit older, I learned the basic swimming strokes. I started body surfing.

Before I started school. Several of my friends had taken to the waves also, And by the time we were in the third or fourth grade, We would have walked barefoot over hot coals to get to the beach when the surf was up. Our older brothers who were surfing with boards, but that took money. A good balsa wood board, And that's what surfboards were made of in the mid-1950s. Cost $100.

In today's money, that's well more than a thousand. An impossible sum for a young kid. The closest we could come to boards were short canvas mats. with vulcanized rubber ends. that we fill with air until they were rock hard and on the verge of bursting.

I could actually knee pad on my mat like a surfboard. By the time I was ten, I was riding my bicycle with my deflated and folded nap. Up the Coast Highway. to the surfing point next to the Malibu Pier. When surfers say Malibu, They mean nothing else but that point.

I filled my surf mat at a gas station near the pier. Amen. Paddled out to the point. Sitting on their surfboards and waiting for waves, the older guys looked at me curiously and indulgently. I would catch the smaller waves and the leftovers from the sets.

I can remember my first wave at Malibu. It boggled my mind. The shape was perfect. as if made by some great machine. and it seemed to go on forever.

I was accustomed to much shorter and often lumpy bumpy rides. To this day, I have never surfed better wave than a Malibu wave. I've surfed all up and down the California coast. I've surfed in Mexico. I've served in Central America.

I've served in Hawaii. I've surfed in Australia. I've surfed bigger waves. I've served faster ways. I've surfed waves that provided for longer rides.

But I have never surfed better waves. when conditions are right at Malibu. There is no better wave on planet Earth. Malibu is a freak of nature. To the uninformed eye, it looks like any other point of land.

jutting into the ocean. But the bottom is perfectly contoured. with a reef of rock so uniform in size and shape. And so geometrically arranged then it seems impossible it developed naturally. At an extreme minus di, With most of the reef exposed, The rocks look like marbles on a Chinese checkers board.

Every other reef I've ever seen has the big rock, to be avoided. Halfway down the point, or a gap in the reef. or groups of jagged rocks distributed randomly. Not Malibu. The rocks are smooth and round.

looking like moss-covered bowling balls. When we come back, more with Roger McGrath and his story. and his love affair. with surfing. Lee Habib here again.

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And we continue with our American stories and the story of surfing. Let's pick up where we last left off. Here's McGrath. In the late 1950s, I finally got the use of a surfboard. It belonged to Kemp Hallberg.

The big brother of my childhood best buddy, Denny Ahlberg, who years later wrote the screenplay for the movie Big Wednesday. Kemp was one of LA City's outstanding high school pole bowlers. and would have gone on devaulting in college had not the siren call of breaking waves at Malibu gotten the better of him. Lean, wiry, well-conditioned, and highly coordinated. By the time he was 18, he was one of the best surfers in Southern California.

Dale Velzey and Hap Jacobs. Surfboard makers in Hermosa Beach. Gave kept boards to ride. One of them began to delaminate. the process of the fiberglass pulling away from the foam.

a not infrequent problem with the first foam boards. Kemp parked the board on the side of the house. and with enough pleading. Danny and I persuaded him to let us use it. The Villsey Jacobs was 9'6, an ideal size for Kemp.

but a giant for us two little Grammys. Then he would grab the nose, and I'd grab the tail. and we would carry the board to the water. Since our combined body weight no more than equaled camps, The board floated the two of us. and we were able to tan the knee battle out to the point.

When a wave came, one of us would slip off the board and tread water. while the other surfed. We both sprang up and rowed the first waves we caught all the way to the shore. We were good athletes and have been body surfing, surf matting, and skateboarding for years. We were also a little bit nuts.

We had made a regular practice of attempting ever more radical maneuvers on a skateboard. Fletzy Flyer. Bicycle. Or pogo stick. We're in a soapbox racer.

We didn't know it at the time. But we were adrenaline junkies. Neither did we understand that we had joined a fraternity of surfers. Let's stretch back only 50 years in California.

Now, many decades later, and I haven't gained perspective. I understand how new the sport was at the time. California's first surfer was George Freeth. Born in Honolulu in 1883, He was part Hawaiian, part of Hawaii. On his mother's side, and all Irish on his father's side.

With blue eyes, wavy brown hair, chiseled features, and the physique of a Greek statue. He was a striking figure. He was also the principal figure. and the revival of surfing. in the Hawaiian Islands.

Once the sport of Hawaiian royalty, Surfing had all but disappeared in the islands by the turn of the 20th century. The few who served did so by lying prone on the board. and rowed the breaking wave straight into the beach. Frief not only began standing on the board, but also developed the art of turning the board. to slide down the wave and stay ahead of the break.

On a trip to Hawaii. Jack Lyndon saw free. Half a mile out, where the reef is, said London. The white-headed comers thrust suddenly skyward out of the placid turquoise blue. One after another they come, a mile long.

with smoking crests. the white battalions of the infinite army of the sea, And suddenly rising like a sea god, from out of the churning white. Pierre's a man. standing above them all, calm and superb, Here's a brown mercury. Riding the sea that roars and bellows and cannot shake him from its back.

Well, in nineteen seven, Friend was brought from the islands to California by Henry Huntington of the Pacific Electric Railway. A new line had just been opened from Los Angeles Torredondo Beach. And Huntington thought the surfing exhibition by Freith might be just the promotional tool. The railway needed to attract new riders.

Soon Angelinos. We're taking the train to Redondo. and watching from the beach as one newspaper reported, In awed amazement, witnessing the spectacle of a man standing on water.

Well, truth be told. Freeth was standing on an 8-foot, 125-pound redwood board. Um Free three million in California. working as a sports trainer and a lifeguard. becoming the first official lifeguard on the Pacific coast.

He invented their torpedo-shaped rescue buoy. that became standard issue for lifeguards the world over. and made a number of daring rescues. During a tremendous storm in December 1908, According to one newspaper report, Frieith made three freezing trips out through mountainous foaming seas. to rescue seven Japanese fishermen.

or being swept to certain death in their small fishing boats. The report urged slightly. It was one capsized boat and six fishermen. For his heroic action, Fried was awarded the United States Life-saving core. Gold medal.

The Japanese fishermen honored him by naming their small fishing village Freeth. which was located at the mouth of Potreiro Canyon. in Pacific Palisades. Freeth also introduced the game of water polo in California. and trained several champion swimmers and divers.

at the Los Angeles Athletic Club. Ironically, The Darian Waterman. died in bed at the age of thirty five. becoming just one more victim of the great influenza virus. of nineteen eighteen and nineteen nineteen.

Commonly called the Spanish flu. Surfboards remained unchanged. From Friends Day. until the late 1920s. When Tom Blake introduced several revolutionary innovations.

Born in Wisconsin in 1902, Blake rode the rails to California in 1919. arriving about the time Frief died. Already a terrific swimmer with a muscular build, Blake settled in Santa Monica and worked as a lifeguard. Swimming instructor. and stunt man for the movies.

He moved to Hawaii for a time. working with the Waikiki Beach Patrol. Blake fell out of favor with the Hawaiians. When he destroyed the field in the Alawai Canal paddleboard race, Blake credited his victory to his new Hollow paddleboard. that he had designed.

Instead of the typical solid wood board, Lake's was hollow. with thin sheets of plywood covering spars as in the wing of an airplane. The new creation weighed in at 75 pounds. a saviance of fifty pounds or more, over the older boards. Blake returned to California.

And they introduced his Hollow Hawaiian Surfboard. As he called it. At what was promoted as the first Pacific Coast Surfboard Championship. Held in August, 1928. At Corona Del Mar.

Although few waves of any size and quality, break there today. Because of the extension of the Newport Harbor jetty. Big Corona. was one of California's premier surf breaks. Blake's lighter, hollow board caught on quickly.

In 1935, he added a skag. A fin attached to the bottom of the board that allowed a surfer to track, turn, and pivot the board with much greater ease. And you've been listening to Roger McGrath tell the story. of surfing in the early and mid to early twentieth century. And there were two main people who helped make this happen.

One, George Frieth, and he was born in Hawaii, part Irish, part native Hawaiian, an athlete par excellence, and just built for surfing, a body for surfing, a figure and a sense of balance for surfing. And then, of course, there was the great Tom Blake. The surfboard innovator and created the hollow board, which created a lighter surfboard, and then, of course, adding that. in to the bottom of the board. For better control, we're learning about how this pastime is becoming more than a lifestyle.

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And we continue with our American stories and with Roger McGrath telling the story of surfing. Let's pick up. where we last left off. With the introduction of Blake's new board, surfing grew rapidly during the 1930s. Promoters saw a chance to make money.

and a very mild and limited commercialization of the sport began.

Soon there is a state championship held at San Onofre. Pete Peterson of Santa Monica dominated the event. winning the championship four times. When the Japanese launched their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Throwing the United States into World War Two. Uncle Sam threw California surfers into the armed forces.

A state championship was cancelled for the duration of the war. Perfect glassy waves broke up and down the coast with very few to ride them. One of those who got to serve Malibu during the war was Joe Quigg. Born in nineteen twenty five in Los Angeles, Quigg grew up in Santa Monica, spending summers on the beach. He was awe struck by the surfing prowess of Pete Peterson, and he and wanted to be just like him.

By the time Quigg was thirteen, he was not only a good surfer, but had shaped his own surfboard out of a redwood plank. Quig was 16 and in high school when the Japanese sneak attack came.

so he was able to surf Malibu in 1942 and 1943. By 1944, he was in the Navy. but was able to come home on leave during that summer. Right after I got home, said Quick. I drove up to Malibu to surf.

And though the waves were good that day, There are only three guys out. One was a guy with a withered arm named Bob Simmons. And the other two were kids named Buzzy Trent and Matt Kivlin.

Well after the war Quigg began working for Tom Blake, shaping surfboards. and developing his own designs. Within a few years, Quig had developed a lighter, faster, and more maneuverable board Made of balsa wood. When other surfers saw the way Quig could snap the board through turns at Malibu, they lined up to order one from him. Quick called his new design the Malibu board.

Decades later, Quiggs Malibu Borg. would be called the first modern surfport. Uh The others who surfed with Quig at Malbu that summer day in 1944 also later contributed mightily to surfing history. Buzzy Trent would become a legendary big wave rider in Hawaii. Born Goodwin, Trent, in 1929, He acquired the nickname Buzzy while growing up in Santa Monica.

He delivered newspapers to earn money. to buy his first surfboard and spent his high school years surfing and playing football. Muscular, fast, and agile. He started running back. and was recruited to play at the University of Southern California.

Trent might have become known for his cutbacks on the gridiron. rather than on a wave, had he not broken his leg as a freshman. When he recovered, He not only dropped out of football, but also dropped out of FC. He was soon in Hawaii. where he became one of the pioneer big wave writers at Macaha.

and later on the North Shore. Because of his hard charging, fearless style, on big waves and his storytelling on the beach. He became a crowd favorite. in the early surfing movies. Born in Texas in 1929, Matt Givlin was a direct descendant of Irish immigrants who developed the San Patricio colony in Texas, during the eighteen thirties and forties.

and sent men to defend the outlaw. Kivlin's family moved to West Los Angeles when he was a little kid. He spent his summers on the beach and began surfing at a young age. He grew to six foot three inch. unusually tall for a surfer.

But He was agile and quick on the surfboard. In the late 1940s and early 1950s, He was one of the best at Malibu. Kivlin also designed and shaped surfboards with Tom Blake and Joe Quig. Contributing to Quidd's Malibu board. By the mid-50s, except for an occasional go-out, Kivlin has let surfing behind.

and dedicated himself to architecture. He became an acclaimed architect. and during his career designed some 200 homes. in Santa Monica, Prentwood, Pacific Palisades, and Malibu. The third guy.

Joe Quigg reported surfing at Malibu that summer day in 1944. Who's Bob Simmons? Quigg mentioned Simmons having a withered arm. It was actually a badly broken arm that never healed correctly. Simmons would later contribute to Naomi's surfboard design.

but to the foam revolution of the nineteen fifties. Simmons was born in Los Angeles in 1919. and almost lost his life in his early teens to a cancerous tumor in his leg. A surgeon removed the tumor before the cancer spread. and Simmons rode a bicycle regularly to rehabilitate the leg.

While riding the bike, he was hit by a car. and his arm badly broken. To rehabilitate the arm, He began paddling a surfboard. and learn to serve. Surfers called Simmons the mad scientist.

He was always always seemed to be experimenting with something. He took classes at Caltech. to learn everything he could about aerodynamics and hydrodynamics. His sidekick was a muscular and tough as nails. Buzzy Trent.

Simmons and Trent were the original odd couple. said Dave Rockland. A Santa Monica surfer? In World War II Marine. Together, they were a real pair.

like the mad scientists. and his big burly sidekick, Igor.

Well, during the late 1940s. Most surfboard makers began to use balsa wood imported from South America for surfboards. The word was white. can be shaped with saws and sanders. and can be covered with fiberglass for protection.

Because balsa wood came from South America and was fairly expensive, Simmons began look. and materials developed during the war, especially styrofoam. It was easy to shape, very light and cheap. When you try to fiberglass styrofoam, He learned that the catalyzed resin dissolved the foam. In response, he developed his sandwich board.

By covering the styrofoam with two thin sheets of plywood, using bulks of wood for the rails. and then fiberglassing the whole thing. Simmons' new sandwich board worked so well He soon had dozens of orders and opened a shop in Santa Monica. with Joe Quigg and Matt Kivlin working for him. Simmons turned out hundreds of boards.

Both sandwich style. He and Mosser Wood. Despite his partially crippled arm, Simmons was continually testing his boards. On a big September day in nineteen fifty four, He was out at Winden Sea, La Jolla's best surfing spot. Surfers remembered.

seeing him riding some big waves that day. But no one remembered seeing him come in. Three days later, his body washed up on the beach. the mad scientist was thirty five years old. The same age as George Freeth when he died.

Simmons did not live quite long enough to see the development of a foam. that could withstand catalyzed resin. That development Would usher in. The golden age of surfing. And a terrific job on the production, editing, and storytelling by our own Greg Hengler.

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