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I was born kind of brown and middle class in New Jersey. He never met his father, I still talk to my 94-year-old father every week. He dropped out of high school in his early teens and was illiterate into his early twenties. I was surrounded by books growing up and finished graduate school in my early 30s. Big Mitch spent the last 44 years of his life in Alabama prisons for killing a man.
But this is not a story about an innocent man sentenced to prison for a crime he didn't commit. Big Mitch never denied the crime or made excuses for it. This is the story of my friend's spiritual transformation while serving his life sentence. It's also about a friendship only God could have engineered. A friendship that began with a single Sunday morning call.
Through these weekly conversations, I hope you come to know and love him as much as I do. Here's episode 13, our conversation on June 24th, 2020. 2024, where Mitch begins by sharing a story about how a random act of kindness on his part. Would touch another man's life in a way he could only describe as being God-sent. Take it away, Mitch.
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Come and throw wide over. Guys doing everything. You know, it's just. The gambling, the you got guys gambling right here, you got a bingo thing going on in the back on one side. You got the poker game going on, you got a dice game, you got guys maybe robbing somebody over here, and you know, it just, you know, it's big dumbato and a whole lot of stuff.
Ain't no officers nowhere. I'm walking around the other side and I just hear I just this was an old white guy down there. And he was kind of like uh country in Western Singapore back in the days you would tell guys, um, And I just heard and just, you know, kept asking people for stamp nobody get it old man of stamp. Nobody.
So I I walked over to him and uh And as it will. I said nobody gonna give you no stamp? I said I got you on, so I went over that. I gave him more than one stamp. And he told me something.
He said, You God sent. at that time I smiled. I said, Well, okay, thank you. And I walked off because I didn't consider it to be You know, nothing major, you know. I I would have did that for anybody, you know, but especially with you older guys, you know, and I don't know what's going on.
And at this time, Stamps was kinda like gradual because you could use it even trade and bargain with it, you know, so Later on in life, I understood what he meant. And I can give you a reason why I said it. You called Sen. is the the kindest and charitable. Nature that God sent somebody there to do that, you know, to help him or to aid him in some form or fashion.
But later on in life I understood what he meant because there have been times where the situation have came about and that someone came along and made a difference in your life in a positive way. And It was God's sin. You see? It it was like years later when I really understood what he meant. God just shows me and proved to me that He's keeping me for a reason.
And I done did a lot of good in here. I done stopped a lot, I done saved a lot of girls' lives in here. Not by me being in the same special, but just by me being the type of person that God allowed me to be, you know, by me intervening sometimes with, you know, words or influence or a person liking me or what have you, or sometimes even with money. I've had guys come to me well, The gang members was at him. He's from California.
big guy looked like he was uh Black in Hispanics, VPR. Anyway, he had oldest They gain some money.
Somebody sent him to me.
Somebody told him, said, Hey man, go holler that Mitch. He'll probably pay for you to keep you from getting. get no hurt or kill, no staff.
So, uh, it was a nineteen ninety nine. I'm only in my dormitory, and so they missed somebody looking for you.
So when I walk out the dormitory, your door, I see a button. Six, seven guys, and I see another big guy that had his shirt on, about six foot five. uh two eighty muscles behind you know he talking crazy. about four or five behind him. And as I come by the cubicle, I said, well, who won't be?
Because I don't see anyone that I'm familiar with.
So the guy said, you missed Russia. I said, yeah. He said, hey, man. A dude told me, he said, You will help me out. I said, what do you mean?
And uh he said, Man, I I owe for money and by this kind of The peak cat stepped up. He said, Hey, You're gonna pay that debt for him? Because if you're not, then we better just go ahead on and that damn on up or what have you, you know.
So I said, Well, man, I said, I don't even know what's going on, brother.
So they explained to me what was going on. About this time, the guy that I knew. Came up. Piece of midge, I send it to you, man. See, he ain't no bad dude, man.
He just got messed up, man. Owes the money. If you don't give him no money, And they gonna mess him up.
So by this time, right here, the big two. He's impatient. Hey, either you gonna do it or you ain't gonna do it, man. We ain't got time for all this. And uh I said, well, how much is it?
So, dude, said about $50. I said, well, man, I probably can round that up. I said, but I I don't even know the diamond, you know.
So he said, Please, brother, do that for me. I end up going to my box and going to another guy, and we paid him. Paid the big guy. The big guy walked and he told us that you better not never. Said nothing to me else.
District, do nothing no more. Said it, man, save your life. And um Make a long story short, The guy that I paid the money to help get him out of debt. They even bite. The end up.
He didn't appreciate it. He ended up going back and then getting them trouble anyway. And the big guy. which they call a muddy. Yeah and I end up to be real cool.
because after that situation Five, six days later, I was coming out one of the areas of the prison. I saw him. I said, Man, everything cool with that He said, Yeah. He said, You don't even know the man? I said, No.
He said, Man, that was a good thing you did He said, uh, a lot of dudes when they did that, I said, Well, hey, man I said, uh I just try to do the right thing, man. I I don't wanna see the guy get hurt the guild uh, you know, if I could stop it and He said, Well, man, that's that was a good deed you did. You did good, man. He said, I respect that. And from there, we began to speak to each other and so on.
But the guy that I helped didn't even send this show up for he ended up getting in more trouble and more trouble and more trouble.
So that's just who he were.
So the guy that sent him to me, I said, Man, you told me this dude was okay, man. This dude stayed in trouble. He owes him more money.
So he ended up being stabbed up anyway later on. behind the same pane. He tried to come to me again. Boy, I had to find out about his reputation. And I said, man, you just.
And I didn't have it and I just didn't won't deal with them anymore. Because it was kinda like what the Bible says, you know, you're throwing pearls to swine. In other words, the gifts and the love that you have to give to someone. Don't give to someone that gonna turn around and spit in your face. That's just like throwing furrows, Miss Wine.
If you do something to help someone and they turn around and spit in your face, so to speak. And that happened to me several times. But if you do it And then the person showed the appreciation of it and and and and grew and and and moved forward and and do positive and good and then That's what giving is all about. That's what love is all about. And a terrific job on the production, editing, and storytelling.
by our own Greg Hengler. and Reagan Habib. And my goodness, as weeks and weeks pass, more insight from and Big Mitch. And in some ways, in many ways, prison life Not that much different than our lives in the sense that, well, we deal with human beings every day, flawed. and good and a mixture of both.
And what he says about offering up your gifts. and being discerning with them. Oh my goodness, don't we all have to be discerning? when it comes to giving our love and our treasure. Episode 13 of Sunday Mornings with Big Mitch.
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