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He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. You can listen to the full episode out now wherever you get your podcast. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. At a blast, cruising around the festival weekend in the all-new Palisade Hybrid.
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We're close in age. but have little else in common. Mitchell Rutledge, aka Big Mitch. was born black and poor in Georgia. I was born kinda brown and middle class.
in New Jersey. He never met his father. I still talk to my ninety four year old father. every week. He dropped out of high school in his early teens and was illiterate into his early 20s.
I was surrounded by books growing up. and finished graduate school in my early 30s. Big Mitch spent the last 44 years of his life in Alabama prisons for killing a man. But this is not a story about an innocent man sentenced to prison for a crime he didn't commit. Big Mitch never denied the crime.
or made excuses for it. This is the story of my friend's spiritual transformation while serving his life sentence. It's also about a friendship only God could have engineered. The friendship that began with a single Sunday morning call. Through these weekly conversations, I hope you come to know and love him.
as much as I do. Welcome to Sunday Mornings with Big Mitch. Here's episode one. My conversation on January 14th. 2024, where I learned where Big Mitch grew up.
And how? This is a free call from Mitchell Rutlidge. An incarcerated individual at Alabama Department of Corrections. This call is not private. It will be recorded and may be monitored.
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You may start the conversation now. My name is Mitchell Rutledge. Everybody call me Big Mitch. I was born in 1959, October 8th. Anywhere, I think, between Phoenix City and Colombo, Charlie, somewhere there.
My mother is Mary Ann Rutledge, and she was born in Phoenix City, Alabama. My father, he was in the military in Fort Denny.
So I never really knew my father. My mother, she was 13 years old, I think, when I came in the world, when she got pregnant or something like that. I think when she was 16, she got in some trouble and she went off from 16 to 18, girls, reform school, or what have you. And from my age one through 10, I never lived with my mother because my mother lived with my grandmother because she was young.
So I had opportunities. Lived with my mother when she married my youngest sister's father. And I was 10 years old when she married him. And I had an opportunity to know my mother for six years because she died when she was 29. I was 16 going on, 17.
After talking about how he grew up, Big Mitch talked about where. and talked about living in the projects. When I went to the projects when I was coming up as a youth, especially when I was like in my 8, 9, 10, 11, stuff like that, when I used to go in the project and go inside the guys' house, you know, I thought I was in a middle-class neighborhood because my family still stayed in the poverty realm before they built the projects for the poor people.
So my family never just made it from those shotgun plywood, shotgun houses, even in the 70s. We still living in shotgun houses and with no, you had running water, but you didn't have bath till then.
So I came out of real poor environment, poor than the guys, the average guys in the project, you know. I asked Big Mitch what gave him a sense of hope and freedom. the hope and freedom I was hearing in his voice. Just because you physically restrained doesn't mean that, you know, it's all forms of bondage, all forms of imprisonment. And of physical restraints, that's what one look at most often.
But it's all kinds of bondage. You know, all kinds of things that imprison an individual. And the only thing that don't help you to be free of any of that is that a spiritual relationship. With me, what have helped me is develop a relationship with Jesus Christ. And once I did that, then I was able to, even though I'm physically restrained, I can still be free.
Free from a lot of the things that other individuals may be in prison with. Such as, you know, greed, anger, selfishness, self-doubt, drugs.
So many things. Things that capture us in life. There's so many things that, you know, just like the guy that was a Wall Street guy, he's got money, and money is not the defining answer to happiness of freedom. It's not. It's just a vehicle to be able to accomplish some of the things that individuals need to accomplish in life.
But he was in prison. And I tell a lot of guys in here, you can't lock yourself in here just because you're physically in here. You know, you got your spiritual freedom, you got your mental freedom, being able to reason and think and imagine yourself in a place far greater than this, being able to reinvent yourself. And so this gives you freedom, you know. We then started to talk about Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr. His birthday was coming up. And I told Big Mitch about King's faith, I was writing about it at the time, how his father was a preacher. and King's only real job in his entire adult life. was as the co-pastor at his father's church.
and that the last speech King ever gave in his life in Memphis. He preached the parable. of the prodigal son. Yeah, speaking of Martin Luther King, I tell a lot of guys, you know, Martin Luther King had, he said something this years and years ago. I was listening to some of his earlier takes and he was talking about God, you know, and he was saying, you know, that God set up the boundary for everything.
So he said, man is out of the boundary for gravity. Since man understand that instantly, you know, once you violate gravity, you understand that instantly.
So you ain't working, you ain't gonna do that too much. You're not gonna get on top of the building, you know, and you're gonna try to be careful. But he said, God also set up the boundary of morale and morality. But since it's not instantaneous, like gravity, you don't feel it right then.
So man have the tendency to go further and further across the boundaries of morale and morality until he reaches a reprobated mind. And that's true. And see, God's out of laws and boundaries for everything, even morale. But like Martin Luther King said, since it's not instantaneous, you don't feel the impact of it right then.
So you have the tendency to go further and further across the boundary of morale and morality until you cross into the realm where God says, I can't do nothing with you no more.
Now you have a replicated mind.
Now you're in the realm of Satan.
Now you operate in his area and his territorial. You know, and people do that. And so when I heard that years ago, I thought about it.
So you've got to be careful and mindful of what you do. You got to be careful and mindful how you treat people. You can't be so clever and smart going through life, stepping on people's abuse. And details and use and details. You gotta be mindful.
And a beautiful job on the production, editing, and storytelling by our own Greg Hengler. And Reagan Habib, and you've been listening. to our first installment of Sunday mornings. with Big Mitch. series of calls I had with Mitchell Rutledge.
as he is serving his forty-fourth year. in an Alabama penitentiary for killing a man. And I gotta tell you, I was nervous when I started this call. I'd never spoken to somebody. who'd killed a guy and had spent his life.
in the penitentiary. But my goodness, it didn't take long for us to bond. And when he started talking about bondage and being captive and being imprisoned. and when he started to list the things we can all be captive to or in bondage to. And he mentioned greed and selfishness and self-doubt and sex and drugs and liquor.
I added to him, Work. that some of us are workaholics and I'd suffered from that and that bondage and the damage it did to my life. And it was a confessional of sorts, the two of us. Again we had nothing in common. By the end of that first hour, I felt like I was talking to this man.
about things I talk to very few men about. Sunday mornings with Big Mitch. The series continues every Sunday. here on our American story. Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bone Show.
I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio Music Festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together, Diplo? I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus, and we had like three hours.
It was really cool. He literally just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.
You can listen to the full episode out now wherever you get your podcast. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. I had a blast. cruise around the festival weekend in the all-new Palisade Hybrid. This is Alec Murdoch.
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