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Some of you might have remembered That T V show called Sutimus. FBI. And as I travel around the country speaking, I find that. I keep getting asked three most popular questions. Question number one.
Are you the real Sir Thomas? Question number two. How long did you work for the FBI? Only for three and a half years. Just long enough to get a T V show out of it.
And question number three. Did you really run down the street? Catching the bad guys. Do I look like I ran down the street kids in the bad guys? It's been an awful lot of fun.
It on me. If you look back on my life, It has all the elements for Hollywood. The drama, the action. The tenth day. The loss.
And yet when it came down to actually telling The real story of Suthon's Hollywood wouldn't even touch him. I'm going to share with you. Share the story. that Hollywood wouldn't even touch. That journey started out very early in my life at the age of 18 months.
when very suddenly in the evening I went profoundly deaf. There was never a cause known. I wasn't safe. I just had my Q in one moment. And the next moment I was walking the path of science.
Years was spent What the speech therapist In front of a mirror, With my hand on her throat feeling the vibes and making those faint same vibes. At the same time, I would be looking in the mirror, watching her form. Her lips that make the word, And then for me the try to form my lips The same way. After years of speech therapy came voice lessening. No, not for a professional thing, but only to get my voice to fluctuate, to go up and down and up and down.
And after years, the boys came dramatic reading. only for the articulation and enunciation. Upwardness.
So many, many years has gone into this voice. And yet I know I still talk funny. And people say, Oh, no, you don't but I do.
Well, how do you know them?
Well, I can be at the airport. A restaurant, a hotel, any place at any time. And somebody will always come up to me and say, Where are you from? You really have an accent. It's just a little bit different.
And I'm aware of that. I went to public school. The teacher put me in the first row so I'd be able to read ellipse as best as I could. I really didn't understand too much. But I tried to fobble what the class was doing.
And I remember that day. As far as watching the students stand by their desk. And I finally figured it out they were introducing themselves to their classmates. It became my turn that day and I remember getting up and standing beside my desk, And very proudly looking out at my classmates and saying something like, AHHHHHHHHH And with that, the entire class erupted and laughed at me. Those kids were laughing so hard that day.
I turned around the toilet figure while everybody was laughing. And when I couldn't figure it out. I just sat down. But I came to realize that every time I wish to open my mouth to speak. the entire class would erupt and laugh at him.
And I got to the point. Oh, I wouldn't open my mouth. For twelve years I sat in the silence. And never once did I open my mouth And I scored. The defining moment of having my teacher come up to me one day at my desk.
And she looked awful sad that day and she reached down and took my hands in hers. And she led me out of the classroom. And that day has seemed blocked with an awful long walk. And that was the day I entered another class. I entered what was known As the dummy class.
And now all these kids had more ammunition to work with. I just didn't talk funny. I was now the dummy. There were three things in my life as a child. This saved me from total despair.
One My parents went to church on Sundays. And they tried to instill in me that there was a God. that did not make any mistakes. And you're listening to the voice of Sue Thomas. And my goodness What a childhood it must have been.
I just didn't talk funny. I was the dummy. And I know we can all conjure up what that must have been like for her. as many of us may have been those kids laughing at her. or at least hurting for her and not standing up for her.
And then she hears about this God that doesn't make mistakes. When we come back. More of Sue Thomas's story. A unique and beautiful voice here. on our American stories.
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and the story of Sue Thomas. They tried to tell me about Your son named Jesus. And then the father would hold on to his hand. And allow him to lead me and guide me. That there wouldn't be anything that I couldn't do.
or anything that I couldn't become. Secondly. I have a son. To get that. I had a son.
No, I have no recollection of music. But I have a mother that loved music. And she wanted to pass that love on to her only daughter, whether she could hear it or not. And as a little kid, she would place me on her lap as she sat in the rocking chair. Walking back and forth.
Sing all of your favorite songs. With my head on her shoulder as she sang. I could feel the vibrations. And if I really liked the song particularly well, my hand will sort of creep up and lay gently on his throat. that I can get all the vibes that I possibly couldn't.
It must have been around Christmas time. Because one of the first songs that my mom ever taught me. What silent knife? And I thought that's fun. No.
As a little kid, it wasn't the worry. The words had no meaning. Rather, it was the rhythm and the flow that brought forth tremendous peace. And I can remember. After a long, lousy day of school.
Going home on the school bus, looking out the window. With my nose all pressed up against the glass.
So nobody's seen the tears flow down my cheek. Why don't they? I was dose things like that at night. And I'd be okay. The only thing I ever wanted.
And the kid. Was it fun? Let's face them. Who wants to be a friend to a dummy? Who wants to be a fun to somebody that talks funny?
And I never I knew what the word friendship meant. At least not. until I got to high school. By the time I went to high school, I met up with those crowns. That was totally disrespectful.
Outright rebellion. and the alcohol, in the drugs, and everything. And it was my means of escape At least trying to escape The world is silent. God Tam was a pun, man. For he brought in a teacher in my junior year.
that believed in me and began to work with me one-on-one. It was through her life I went to college. And even though I got to college, It took me eight years to leave the place. Eighty years pass. I thought the world couldn't wait to give me a job.
But I found out the world could wait forever. There wasn't one person that was willing to give me a job simply because I couldn't use the telephone. Or they thought that I would misunderstand what was being said. And I went back to the same hearing and speech center. They taught me the p spade.
pounded on their door is asking for a job. They have sorry. A why? They hired me even when they didn't have a job. I became like a gopher, a jack of all trades, doing whatever they wanted me to do.
And I can remember some days taking paper clips out of one box. sticking those paper clips in another box. And I'm putting them in the closet. I was only there for a few short months. You say it was a bend at the Huring and Space Center.
who in turn had a friend that Lived in Washington, D.C., who in turn had a friend that worked for the Department of State. who in turn had offended the worst of the FBI. Are you following this?
So a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend From Washington DC. to Youngstown, Ohio. I get when that the FBI is looking for deaf people. And if you don't think that I panicked, I thought to myself, what did we do? It took him a long time to calm me down that day.
Basically they said you didn't do anything. They just want to know if you want a job. Do I want a job?
Somebody was finally going to hire me for who I was. Scratch said, I'm going to Washington, D.C., that's awesome. But the more I realized it, The more I knew I was going to be with the FBI, it just doesn't get any better.
So off I go to Washington, DC. And the first week is like a dream come true. They took me around, they introduced me to all the special agent. And after all the introductions was over, they took me downstairs to the firing range, where all the agents practiced their target shooting. That was the very first mistake.
The second mistake is when they handed me a Thompson 45 submachine gun. I shot up their entire shilling that day without even trying. It's a long time before they let me go back downstairs. And then I started my training. to become what was known as a fingerprint examiner for the FBI.
Within the first five minutes, I realized I had made the greatest mistake of my life.
Sometime when you don't have anything else to do. Take a look at any one of your fingers really, really close. All those lines. I'll think of friends. It was my job to count every single one of those lines on that finger.
Eight hours the day. Pardon. And I can honestly tell you. If you've seen one fingerprint. It's Saint Namar.
One day my supervisor comes running in. Should all upstand She tells me I have to get to the front office right away. There's only two reasons a person goes to the front office of the FBI. Either to be terminated from their job or to be interrogated by the FBI agents. I get to the front office, I walk in.
And they told me to sat down. Mm-hmm. The question started. And they went something like this. Ms.
Thomas. And we understand that you read lips to communicate them. And you do a very good job. But there's only one thing we want to know, just one thing. Do you watch T V?
Do I watch T V? That's all you guys wanna know? It's a lot of federal crime to watch TV. I confess I watch T V.
Well, is it difficult for you, Miss Thomas? Do you get anything out of them? Yeah, I do. I mean, no, I don't. I mean, I don't know, do you know what I mean?
You know, if the cameras are... on the person and I can see their lips, I can read 'em. But so many times the camera's not on the person. then I can't see anything, so I don't know when anything's being said. And you're listening to Sue Thomas and what a voice.
She owns it now, you can hear it, but as a young person.
Well, every time she opened her mouth kids laughed, so for twelve years. As she said, she sat on the sidelines. And my goodness, then the FBI.
Well, they're looking for deaf people. And what a sense of humor. What a life story.
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Well, how about movies, Miss Thomas? Do you go to movies? Is it any better for you? Yeah. I go to movies.
And it's a lot better, it really is, you know. It's the lips, they're a lot bigger. On and on went the question. And I came to realize that the FBI had a huge problem. They were working on a case in which they video filmed the suspect.
But when the camera activated, the sound mechanism failed. They have all this film with the bad guys talking. They just couldn't hear it. They wanted to know if I would sit and watch the film and write any words down that I could. I said, sure.
No problem. From that day on, I never went back to reading fingerprints. From that day on, I read Lips for the FBI. And I sum up my job. I followed the bad guys around and I read their lips.
Then I went and told the good guys what the bad guys were saying. And they even paid me to do it too. And overnight, like the snap of a finger. I finally made it in the world of sound. Good job.
Good salmon.
Somewhat of a novelty in Washington, Well I began to be invited to the Congressional and Stanley's Party. And for three and a half years, I lived in the fast lane of Washington, DC. Celebrating my success. I'm thirty-five years of age.
Well, I'm at the prime. Of the FBI. And for thirty-five years. I had hated Every step the step that I took. When I was young, My parents tried to install me.
That God never made a mistake. And then my youth. I believe them. And I held them. But supposedly, with each passing year of getting older and supposedly wiser.
I began to doubt that. But by the time I'm F with the FBI. I totally doubted God. And I wanted to confront him once and for all. I wanted him to confess.
Indeed. He had made a mistake.
So I resign from the FBI. They go to Columbia. International A seminar. C I U in South Carolina. Not to go there to become A preacher.
and not to go there to become a missionary. But without any One Object and The confine God face to face. They ask him why he made a mistake. The mistake wasn't minor, it was major. I mean after all anybody that would know of the mistake.
What have consideration of why I had to do this? It wasn't enough. That he created in me a heart that loves people. I love people. And that came by God's creation.
Did he put within me? But it's compounded by the issue that Even though he created that love, And I want to be with people. He allowed the silence to overtake me. that it was physically impossible to be with people. That, my friends, is a mistake.
It's a whopper. You don't give somebody something and then remove it in a tangible way where they can't have it. Helen Killer started best. When she said blindness, Separates a person from things and objects. Deafness separates a person from people.
Should buy it. Oh yeah. How about good love, breeding? In my prime, I could be in a high-rise building in New York City. with a pair of field glasses looking across the street at another high rise building.
and telling you word for word what was being said. I'm good. Or I was. I'm so good I can even do two people. And that's like watching tennis.
Somebody will talk or stop. The talk the stop, the talk the tonk the tonk. I can get it. But you add a third person. and a fourth person.
I start deteriorating. I cannot function in a room. And my heart. wants it so desperately and so badly. I love the party.
I love to be with people. But I can. I can't. I got the seminar. God was waiting.
You say him. He didn't just give me one. or two friends in seminary that I could relate to. He had twenty-five. Friends waiting for me.
I can't be with three people, let alone 25, and yet. Happy time. Where you got a clasp together? We would share meals together. We would study.
We would pray. We would sing. We were always together. And these people saw the outward show of Sultanus. The party animal.
Happy God liking. The line. Because what they didn't know Is that when I left the mist and I went back to my apartment? I totally destroyed everything. that I can get my hands on him.
The bitterness and resentment. started doing the first job. Up our screen That puts me a six years old, doesn't it? From the age of saints. To the age of thirty-five That baggage was growing.
With each passing moment. That I was a broken person. I was a resumeful person. I despise There wasn't a shred of happiness within me. And now I'm with 25 Newfoundland.
And what a story, folks. And my goodness. With each passing year, as I got older, I began to doubt. That God doesn't make mistakes. At 35, I wanted to confront God once and for all.
And about one thing. that yes, he did make a mistake, Oh my goodness, to hear her talk about her bitterness. The bitterness and resentment had started. In the first year of first grade at the age of six, Right to the age of 35, that baggage was growing with each moment. There wasn't a shred.
of happiness in me. When we come back. More of this remarkable confession. This beautiful confession. Here.
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and with Sue Thomas's story. And now Here's the final part.
So many times I cried out to God, please. Give me my hearing. Please just let me hear. And it was always the same answer. The Great Silence.
So I turn from God. I more or less gave up on him. I went to the One Friend and Seminary. And I told her a lie. I told her that I had a terminal disease, that I was dying.
Because in my warped mind I thought of she believed me. She would want to spend as much time with me one-on-one. And that's exactly what happened. But when I didn't realize, the split second that I told that lie, that it would last for over seven months. And I had no idea that the first person I told that lied to, they were going to fan out of those 25 people.
And surely I had no idea that that lie would totally consume me. And there's drama. Seven long months passed. And I was wasting away. And there came a time That I could not take it any longer, and I went to that same friend and I said, please.
Call my advisor in scorn. Tell him that I need to see him as soon as possible. Tell him to have another faculty member with him. It's urgent. And I met with those two men.
Tears streaming down my face. I confess I sin. I knew that I would have to go to those 25 different people and tell them the truth. And I was prepared to do that. I wanted to do it.
But what I didn't know Is I would have to stand before the entire academic committee of that school. The night before I wished to meet that committee. What's the longest? Darkest, quietest night of our life. The shame and the guilt.
was so unbearable. Then I got my suitcase out and I began to pack. to run away, I couldn't face it. And while I'm parking My Bible fell on the floor. And when I look down I sort of shot one.
And I shook my head. Because I could not believe the pages that were staring back to me. I put the Bible on the bed. And I went down on the floor. That is down.
And I cried out for God for mercy. For forgiveness. That I told him that for thirty-five years. I went to church. I started the pure.
I think they came. I talked the talk and told people I was this Christian. How dare I? The next morning I stood before the entire academic committee. Tears streaming down my face.
And my speech was so garbled with the emotion. I knew they had a hard time understanding me. That one thing. that I remember more than anything else. on that day of my confession, but that's all.
Was one Long naan. Sitting in a chair. Kiss Haddon. was in his hands. And as he heard me speak, He shook his head back.
For example and as I watched him Appears. Slow down issues by us. That man Was Doctor Robinson? Look weird. The day before that meeting.
The emotions ran so high. What while I stay termed What can I say? Another day pan, you're right. And wouldn't you know it? They stop me right next to him at a dinner table.
He looked at me. And the first word that he spoke was So I was so proud of you. I looked at him. And the tears began to flow. And I choked them And I took my napkin and I placed them on the table and I said, doctor, excuse me.
And I walked out and I went outside. And I kept thinking, God. He doesn't remember. He can't remember. He doesn't even spout me.
So I regained my composure and I went back. And I was able to finish the meal as I promised and Dr. McCulken. I need to see you as soon as possible. Or you meet with me.
He said just tomorrow morning. I looked at him. And I said, Did you ever kick anybody out? The drug first has anybody. And he looked puzzled.
And they looked at me. It's that I don't think it's so. But I'm not sure. And then there was the great silence. Any steps?
Did we kick you out? No, sir. But you could've And maybe you should have But she didn't. Instead, you taught me. of the love and the forgiveness of Jesus Christ.
And you just didn't stop with the love. You walk me through the healing process. And then you sent me. I don't know. where I would have been had you kicked me out.
And Jeffrey's bad It was like the snap of a finger. All you had to do Was a T V show called Thomas FBI. Here in the United States, over four million people have watched it. Today. That show is being seen.
in 65 nations around the world. Germany.
South Africa. Malaysia. Vietnam, Singapore. 65 nations. And the people write to me thinking they're writing this celebrity.
And I have the opportunity. The sheriff's celebrity now. God's greatest sinner. Save back rains. Yes.
Fabulous. The real story. of Sir Thomas A BI. That is the truth. The whole truth.
And nothing but the truth.
So hoping God And does anyone doubt her? No. What a thing. What a story. What a lie.
What a lie to tell. But she was just hurting and that's why she told him. He was just looking for attention. And what a cry for help that was. Lying about a terminal disease.
and having to go before your peers and then an academic committee. And Well, face the pain. and she was gonna run away and that Bible fell out of the book. and she threw herself on the threshing floor. And she called out for forgiveness and grace.
And she got both. And we don't shy away from these things. This show is open to believers, non-believers, your stories, all of them we want to hear. My goodness, this may be one of the Most profound we've told. Great job as always.
by Greg Hangler. A great and beautiful God story. Sue Thomas's story here. on our American stories. Stop settling for weak sound.
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