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What is the biggest thing that you believe is holding your church back from becoming the church God has called it to be? That's an interesting question to roll around in your mind. What do you think that might be? What's the first thing that jumps out at you? You call us 866-348-7884.

I'd love to hear. Your thoughts on this topic? It's an amazing topic. 866-348-7884. What is holding your church back?

Well, Good news. We've got the Unstoppable Church Conference coming to Triad Baptist Church.

Some amazing speakers and things coming. This October 23rd and 24th, and we've got Pastor Brad Lovell with us to share a little bit about that, Pastor. Yes, sir. Thanks, Stu, for having me. We're grateful that Truth has partnered with us.

And man, like you said, there's a great question that you just asked for those to call in on. You know, as a pastor myself, a lot of times we feel overloaded and overwhelmed, and we just don't know where to go. We know we can go to Christ, but we just feel overloaded. And Pastor Chad Roberts and myself, God gave us this vision to create the Unstoppable Church Conference. And we're launching it for the first time right there in the Triad region.

And we're so excited about it. We're going to have Gary Thomas, who's a phenomenal author, and Pastor Chad Roberts, they'll both be speaking. And we got Mickey Bell, the comedian, Mickey Bell, coming in on Friday night. And for not a fellowship and laughter, you know, sometimes we just need to sit back and laugh. And so Mickey's going to be coming, and we're so excited for that.

But it's just going to be a great weekend, just to get renewed, refreshed. We want to bring clarity and purpose. To the leaders and to teams. You know, this just isn't for pastors, but this is for spouses of the pastor. This is for worship leaders.

This is for next-gen pastors. This is for volunteers. We just want to open this up to just help. Lift the leaders of the the church up in things that they're struggling with right now. Yeah, that's and again, you're listening and you're thinking, you know.

Like, have you wondered Like, man, why isn't our church growing? Yeah. You know, why don't I feel like I'm a part of what's going on? Or who knows what your thoughts may be, but that's the reason why we want you to call us at 866-348-7884-866-268. 3487884.

What do you think's. holding your church back. And uh Pastor Brad there A lot of folks, these folks are coming all the way from, you guys are from Tennessee, right? And They don't, they may not know of Pastor Chad. He is an absolutely phenomenal speaker, author.

Um you guys have really experienced some growth in your area, right? We sure have. Pastor Chad, he leads Preaching Cross Church here in East Tennessee, and he actually went blind back in twenty eighteen. And since then, he didn't use that As something to sit back on, but he's used it to further the gospel and to just push right along. And he just recently released a book, Blind Faith, and it is a tremendous book of faith and the faithfulness of God.

And it's an opportunity. The question is what has stopped the growth? And that's something that we look at often here at Air Church, even though we are growing and we're growing, it seems like every week. But so many times we just get to that place of like, what does it take to get to the next step, to reach more families, to reach more children, more youth? And sometimes people think within the church, I found as a connection pastor, they think I'm just not needed.

They have enough people doing what they do every Sunday. But what they don't realize is, man, we are using the same people in and out. week in and week out. And a lot of times they just experience burnout.

So for me as a connections pastor, I've really just been looking at ways to what can I do to get more people engaged, more people serving, which then helps to release some of that That tension, that overwhelming feeling that not only we feel as pastors, but we know that's feeling on our team. Yeah, it's the old 80-20 rule, right? Eighty percent of the work gets done by twenty percent of the people, if that. And uh you may not know this pastor, but I actually Stu has got it called away.

So I'm Robbie Dilmore. I'm I'm actually a pastor myself. And um I Resemble all those remarks. Yes, I can tell you that. You know, it's it's limitless opportunities, you can feel that.

But again, you're trying to figure out how do I manage this with the people that I have and without burnout and all those things. And again, I just love the idea of you know, resilient leadership. That is willing to take these things on. And you're sitting there and you're wondering, so how neat to come to the conference, even if your church is, you feel like really on track, that man, then I'm sure the rest of us that are coming to this conference, which I assure you, I will be there. Are you going to really help from you, you know, chiming in?

So, if you are a pastor out there or you're at a church that you really feel like has got a handle on some stuff, we would love your input. Again, we're just talking about. The same thing that I know is on everyone's heart because it's on Christ's heart. How can we reach more? people with the gospel, more kids, more youth.

866-348-7884. 866-348-7884. And so, what a neat title, Pastor. Connections pastor. What is a connections pastor?

So basically, what I do is I help to get people connected in the church from the moment they walk in the door, whether they're first-time visitors or they've been coming for a month. Or, you know, sometimes you have those people that have been coming for years, but have just never been plugged in. And so, what I like to do is just pray, Lord, show me these people that I can go to that you've gifted. And that we can get them plugged in, whether that be serving in the welcome team, whether that be serving in the kids' ministry, family life, students. Security, whatever it is, there's so many people out there that everyone, God has gifted all of us.

And sometimes people just have a hard time just Allowing that to come out, and they need someone to come and just help extract that from them to show them that gift that God has gifted them. And so, that's part of my job is to just get people plugged in and just to, you know, the Bible says that God is love, and we are to love everyone. And so, I just want every person that comes into our church week in and week out to experience Christ's love. from those who are here faithfully serving week in and week out. Yeah, and and I I'll never forget w I when we my family first moved to Winston Salem We came to a church that had like 6,000 members.

I mean, it was so gigantic. That it was hard to figure out, you know. And again, we had this picture, like so many families, I think, is. You come to s you know to the worship service on Sunday, then you leave. But one of the things they did at that church that made such an impact as Calvary Baptist Church in Winston was.

That if you didn't go to what they call now Bible fellowship at the time, we called it Sunday school, you know, that was just a thing. they use the Sunday school classes because they're There's so many people to actually put you into a smaller community, and from that smaller community, You know, they used that in order to do what you do, connect you to the other things that were going in the church and the other ways to serve. Because, you know, it's Is a participation sport, right? You're not, you know, put me in coach, get me off the bench. Right.

How does it work? Absolutely. You know, it's interesting. You were talking a minute ago about That you know, maybe there's pastors or leaders out there that maybe they're really thriving right now, and they feel like maybe this church conference that you know, this conference isn't for them, but it absolutely is. You know, about seven months ago, I stepped into this position at my church full-time, and you know, for me, it was completely overwhelming because it was a new area for me.

I hate this topic, Brad, but we got to go to a break. But I am hold that thought, please. I want to hear it. In the meantime, those of you out there call us, we would love your insight. 866-4666.

348-7884. We'll be right back. Truth talk line. What is the biggest thing you believe holding your church back from becoming the church God has called it to be? 8663487884866 Three for truth.

We would love to know your thoughts on this whole thing we're talking about today: the Unstoppable Church Conference, and it is coming. To Triad Baptist Church in Kernersville, North Carolina. October 23rd and 24th. It starts on a Friday evening, like Pastor Brad said. They've got a comedian coming in, worship leaders, singer.

It's going to be an amazing thing. And what a chance for all of us to think about. You know, some breaking through growth barriers and building resilient leadership teams and limitless. Community outreach ideas we could all use. There's no doubt about that.

But when we went to the break, Pastor, you were sharing. Yes, sir. You know, I was saying that earlier you mentioned about, you know, sometimes you think that there's pastors and leaders out there that are listening to this thinking, you know, right now things are going really good for our church. And I just don't know if this conference is for me, but it absolutely is. You know, I took a responsibility of the connections pastor full-time here at my church about seven or eight months ago.

And you know, Stu, I walked into it and I was excited, but it was overwhelming. You know, there was just a lot of new things, new areas that I've never tackled before. And, you know, This conference, we're going to be hosting some breakout sessions. And one of the breakout sessions I'm actually going to be leading is basically talking about the volunteer culture. And the reason that we need those pastors that are seasoned to come in, that even things are running smoothly, is just because I'm going to be leading a breakout session, I want them to pour into me as well.

I want them to pull me aside to go, hey, Brad, we've been in your shoes before. We understand what you're feeling right now. And let me help you. Let me pour into you things that we're doing.

So it's absolutely for everyone that's out there, whether they're struggling, whether they've just got started or man, whether they're on the mountaintop and things are soaring. Yeah, I love that. And, you know. Yeah. God gives everybody this unbelievable creativity, and just as a, you know, having a chance to host a show over the years.

You know, the different ideas people have had that going into schools, you know, just all sorts of different community outreaches, you know. Jail ministries And You know, you just don't know were you to attend this conference that you know you might be giving somebody something that's really going to lead a ton of people to Christ. I mean, we won't know this side of heaven, right, Pastor, what, you know, God's going to do because we are one body. Correct. You know, I was just sitting here thinking that so many times, and you know, our job as the church is to fulfill the great commission, and that's to go out and to preach the gospel and to win the lost.

And our focus should never not be about the loss, but I think what happens so many times in the church, in the body. that we focus so much on the lost That we lose focus on those that are helping to win the loss. And that is. again, our pastor, our pastor's wife. Our student pastor, our worship leader, you know, that they're that we are, we don't take the time to sit back and realize the weight that they're carrying every day, every week.

So it's just so important that we just pour into each other because if we're pouring into each other, we're giving each other clarity, encouragement. Then that boost us up. to allow us to truly go out and to win the lost. Oh, that's beautiful. And you know, if you think about it, October is Pastor Appreciation Month, just saying.

And you know, maybe if you're listening that you could m mention it to your pastor that you guys got we have this coming up. And you know, I know that they would glean lots from it to be along again, just a lot of times when you go to those breakout sessions and those kind of things you're talking about, Brad, you just sit next to another pastor or somebody that, man, they just They share something with you that's unbelievable, or you have an opportunity to share with something, with them, with a, you know, maybe somebody that has got a struggle you've been through. Um You know, however it works, God's got it. going on and it is pastor appreciation month just time beautifully october 23rd through the 24th again at wonderful facility triad baptist church in kernersville north carolina is huge And so You know, I couldn't be more excited myself. To see what God brings there.

And again, Pastor Chad is an amazing man. I had a chance to interview him at the NRB myself. God is doing some amazing stuff. What an opportunity people just have to come hear him, right? Oh, absolutely.

Just the knowledge that he brings forth through the Word and the relationship that He has with God, it's just it's so powerful. And He's more than just Um He's more than just a speaker. He doesn't come to give you a TED talk. I mean, he really dives into the word and breaks it down and to really wants to pour it into people. And week in and week out, we hear testimonies of new people that have come to our church.

that, you know, we asked them, you know, what When you left the first time, what was the biggest thing that you left that you took away with from the service? And they go, you know, it was the way that the the Pastor Chad delivered the word of God. It was impactful, it was encouraging, and sometimes it's convicting. And but he has such an anointing. And you know, even through his blindness, he has grown so close to the Lord that I mean, he's become just such a mentor to me and pours into his staff, he pours into his church, just a wonderful man of God.

Yeah, I you know He may not have sight, but he has vision. Yeah. I can assure you of that. You know, you guys have a radio show as well. He's gifted in a lot of areas, right?

Oh, yes, yes. He is doing he's on the radio often. He's on so many, I really can't even keep up with how many stations that he's on. And then he has the Awakened to Grace And that's with Awakened to Grace with Pastor Chad Roberts. And he's got an app that you can download on the Apple or Android store, and that links to all of his sermons.

It links to his testimony, more about him.

So I highly recommend just to learn more about Pastor Chad is just to visit that Awaken to Grace website. You can visit Chadroberts.org. Yeah, I love that title. Awaken. You know, and that is the name of your radio show, Awaken to Grace.

Um I I'm wondering if there was something behind that. Um awakened a Grace idea. You know, honestly, Stu, with that, I'm not one hundred percent sure on the answer of that. That was something that God gifted give him many years ago. I've been at the church for about six years now, so that's something that is kind of It was in place when I got here.

So, as far as How that vision came, I'm really not sure. I understand. That's okay. I was just a really, really neat title, and I. Like all b uh, you know, believers love, love, love the idea that Jesus is full of that grace, and we certainly need to be awakened to it.

And What a neat idea to when you when you think about coming to this church conference, right? That you have a chance to Experience the grace that God has given so many different pastors and so many different. types of churches, right? you know, you may be in an extremely rural like Me, like most of The people in your church are farmers or cattle ranchers, or maybe most of the people in your church. Uh it You know or Doing some type of enterprise.

In other words, there's going to be people at this conference, I can assure you, that share. Um That kind of a congregation that could be just really helpful, right, Chen? I mean, Brad, I'm sorry? Yes, absolutely on that. There's such a wide variety of people in the churches today, and you're right with that.

It's something that we want to help equip these pastors to go back and to help No matter what demographic that their congregation is in, no matter what line of work they're in, that they can pour into them. And again, it kind of goes back to the connecting part for me, is to help get them connected, help get them plugged in. I hate we've got to go to another break. It's so great to have you on, Pastor Brad, again, the Unstoppable Church Conference, Triad Baptist Church, October 23rd and 24th. How much fun today on Truth Talk Live?

We are going to switch gears now from The church to you as an individual, right? And so we're now going to talk about the pursuit of more, and the question is. As you look at your own life, You know, how would you go about pursuing more? 866-348-7884. The number to call 866-348-7848-448-448.

7884. And here to help us, we have author Doc. I mean, Sean Sanders, Sean Sanders. With his book, The Pursuit of More, How Addiction to Christ. makes us fully human.

I love that title, Sean. I guess it would be helpful if I actually put him on. There you go, Sean. Yep, can you hear me? I can hear you.

I apologize. I didn't click the right button. That's okay. I hate when that happens. I do too.

I was saying it's uh it's been a minute since we've uh seen each other, so It's good to hear your voice again. And I see online where Andrew Hopper Was coming on, and I know Andrew, he used to come out to the recovery organization I helped start, and he would teach them in their program.

So I think that's really cool. That is really cool. And I love your whole premise. And again, You know, for people that want to call in, please do that at 8663-48-7884. But it says how addiction to Christ makes us fully human And in reading some of the information on your book, Um There's this idea that other addictions could lead to this particular right addiction, is that right?

Absolutely. You know, to be human, Robbie, we have to. We have to rely on something outside of ourselves to give us purpose, to give us really worth meaning and security. Um you cannot rely upon yourself You know, to reach your potential, like self-actualization, if you want to call it that. And what's really cool, I think.

is someone who if you want to look at like at the prodigal son, And Luke chapter 15. You know, someone who speeds up life and goes, okay, just give me all the money I can get. Let me just blow it, have as much fun as I can. Uh sex. Money, power, anything that would really fill the void in my life.

I call it unbridled hedonism in the book. And that person though comes to the realization, this is really a farce. I mean, relying upon yourself for happiness, for self-actualization, for fulfillment. You know, that more you're pursuing, it's not true. And so I actually believe the prodigal sons and daughters have a leg up.

on those who are rule keepers, like the elder brother, who he was not happy when his brother came home. And the father goes out, he restores him immediately. He didn't make him earn it. He didn't say, let's wait two or three weeks here or a year to see if he's really repented. No, he went ahead and restored him immediately.

And the elder brother didn't like that.

So there's a lot of that in the book, Pursuit of More, because it really all goes together, to be honest with you. I just think it's brilliant, actually. And I've said for years. myself is I've interviewed lots and lots of folks from the Winston Salem Rescue Mission. And they're sitting down there on Trade Street in their building and they're looking up at the, you know, what used to be the Wachovia Building, great big tall building over there.

With the people up at the top of that building don't think they need help. They think they got it going on, they got it figured out. But interestingly, it's the guys down there that are coming out of addiction. That that oh you know, or finding themselves in the in the place of and I just love this idea of being addicted to Christ, is that to take those addictions. And I love the way you connected that to that need.

for something outside of ourselves. Absolutely. Well, the Bible says that I'm sorry, go ahead. Oh, you go ahead. No, go ahead.

The Bible says that, you know, as slaves of Christ, Live as free people, right? Live as free men. We're to live freely because we are relying upon Christ. And so, in other words, if we're rooted in Him. And we're a slave to him, we're completely dependent on him, we're fully human.

And I define in the book, I use Dallas Willard's definition, and I say becoming fully human is to do what I want. Because I want what God wants.

So it's to be fully free and to do what I want because I want what God wants. And so desire's not the problem, it's just the object, right? And I think when you know, I had a rescue mission experience, and this is really kind of what changed my life. Towards this book, if you will, when it was originally birthed, was maybe in 2005. I went to preach at the Durham Rescue Mission.

And to about 120 men, I think it was. And when I was preaching, a bunch of them, not all of them, but a bunch of them had this look in their eyes. And they were just so hungry for God. And after the sermon, they came up to me and they said, Hey, Sean, can we get your notes? And I mean during the summer I didn't have to tell a bunch of jokes to keep their attention, you know.

And I walked out of there and I said, you know, I don't know what those dudes have. But I want to hunger for God like that. I don't want to have to go through what they've gone through ideally to get there. But if we can get into that place of brokenness, the Bible says in Isaiah 57 that the Lord, I think it's 57 or 17, it says that the Lord He uh inhabits eternity. He dwells on high and In a high and holy place, but also with the broken and lowly of spirit.

That's where God is. God's not This mentality we have of earning his approval and spiritual equity, that's not what God is into. He's into the person like the publican who got down on, you know, you had the Pharisee who was going, Lord, I thank you, I'm not this poor publican here. I tithe of my mints and all this other stuff, right? And do all of these things and fast.

And then the publican got down on the floor, laid down, and then he started beating himself in the chest, saying, Lord, save me, I'm not even worthy to look up. And Jesus said, which one of these do you think went to his house justified? It's absolutely beautiful. Again, the book that we're talking about here with Sean Connors. Yeah.

I don't know why I'm saying that. It's Sean Saunders. Sean Saunders. Yes. That's all right.

It was on the prompter wrong, but it's okay. Sean Saunders, his book is The Pursuit of More: How Addiction to Christ. Makes us Fully Human. I love that title. Again, the book is The Pursuit of More: How Addiction to Christ Makes Us Fully Human.

It's by, again, Sean Saunders, and you can find that, I'm sure, on Amazon and all those kind of places. I don't know if you've heard this, Sean. I think it's absolutely cool. That in you know, I guess Judaism I have an opportunity to interview this Orthodox rabbi every week, and I learned some amazing things that they. have this idea of the master of return or the master of repentance.

Right? And because the word repentance to some extent means to return. It's called shuvah in Hebrew. Um And what they say is the master of return, the person who has truly been to the depths of their depravity and returned to God. Is given a better seat at the table than the person who has never strayed.

You know, I love that. Bill Wilson, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, him and doctor I think it's Bob Shoemaker. They wrote their first edition of the big book. And I, by the way, I really appreciate AA. I don't believe in the disease model.

But Wilson, he himself said he f had found a cure for what he called real alcoholism, the real alcoholic. And he said that this person could reach a fourth dimension of living, right? And he said this fourth dimension of living was really what he envisioned for everyone to live that way. And I love how things have changed somewhat in AA, I would say, it seems like, in a number of chapters. painted across the board.

But sobriety was a means to an end. It wasn't the ends.

So in other words, he wanted what drove him to be sober was. was so he could reach other real alcoholics. You know, he wanted his life to be effective. And so my book is similar to that. I will say.

I do really appreciate local churches. I've written it to where small groups can go through this. This is very much a curriculum, also. It's got every chapter. is uh has got sections with questions very uh poignant questions questions to ask God, questions to talk about with each other.

It's got assignments in it. And I took some time in 2013 and 14 when I was still running the residential recovery program I had there in North Carolina outside of Raleigh-Durham. And I took time to observe the rhythms that the men in our program were keeping, right? And that's where I got the the premise for my book, the chapters and the rhythms. I just it was a lot of kind of like the scientific method of you observe Right?

You make an inference hypothesis, you test it. And that's how I arrived at it, besides the fact it's rooted firmly in Scripture. That's beautiful. And again, you have and I you know, that's the neat thing is is God was teaching you all the time about this, and now people have a chance to glean it. And for me personally, I I It's tremendous hope for so many people to have prodigal children, right?

They might be in their 50s, but they're still like me, a prodigal to some extent. And the hope of realizing Uh that This idea that, like you say, addicted to Christ is becoming fully human. You know, a lot of people may not want to admit they're f addicted to food or they're addicted to all sorts of things they shouldn't be addicted to. Um, and in in some ways it I guess we make them our gods. Little G?

Right? Absolutely. It's disordered worship is really what it is. I mean, that's what sin is. It's a worship disorder.

And it's it's me setting myself up as the object of You know, reliance and self-actualization. You know, I can just depend on myself. for worth meeting in security. And something else I'll say, Robbie, is someone who's been in, let's say, really hardcore addiction, I mean, the I've seen guys come in and check in, their parents. I remember this one gentleman that checked into our program.

His parents were both surgeons, right? And they were very wealthy. In fact, we had at one time, we had a neurosurgeon's son. A um The cardio surgeons, I forgot their name right now, but the heart doctors, right? Right.

A surgeon. And then we had a dentist. We had three or four, like, really, you know, healthcare professionals, their kids in our program, and they were pushing heroin in their arms. I mean, you wouldn't believe it. But, and it was a shock for me.

I just like, oh my gosh. But here's the deal: you don't have to convince someone who has been in hardcore addiction that there's a God and a Satan. You really don't, or let's just say a good and evil. You do not have to convince them there's good and evil, they know. Because they have come, they've seen into the spiritual realm somewhat, not to get too mystical, but there really is that element.

And that's why you're dealing with something that's very dangerous. It's very much liturgical. Because we're visceral creatures, you know. God made us as lovers, we're not primarily thinking things. And so we're going to esteem worth, we're going to build our lives around that which affords us the greatest payoff.

Well, I hate we gotta go. But again, the book is The Pursuit of More, How Addiction to Christ Makes Us Fully Human by Sean Sanders. And so grateful for you being on with us today, Sean. God bless you. It is Monday, Money Monday here on True Talk Live and how fun we've got.

David Fisher back with us and our scripture for this segment is Ezekiel 7.19. Your silver and gold will be thrown into the streets like garbage because those are the two things that led you into sin. And now they cannot save you from my anger. They are not even worth enough to buy. Food.

Wow, that's that's a a loaded scripture right there, uh David, isn't it? Oh, I thought so too when I read it before and You know, I've been in the industry in gold and silver for 32 years, and I've talked to many believers about this. And it gets so misinterpreted, I thought, let's just have talk about this since it kind of goes hand in hand with what's going on with our debt. And you Um So, you know, first of all, What is money in the Bible?

Well it's not US dollars because there wasn't such a thing back then. It wasn't paper money even. Money was gold and silver.

So when the Bible refers to gold and silver, It's referring to money. Because that was the, if you will, the global monetary system. There was no such thing as anything else. And in fact, our Constitution, when we set up our money system, was set up on gold and silver right out of the book of Leviticus, the Sundry Laws. But back to the scripture.

What this scripture is saying is predicting sometime in the future, because that's what scripture does. It's talking about there's going to be a massive devaluation of a currency. And right now, the currency is the US dollar. Am I saying this is going to happen next week, tomorrow, or am I wearing a tin hat today or anything like that? No, no, no.

I'm not an alarmist. I'm conservative. But this is true That has happened in several countries. Their currency has gone down a lot, where And Germany is a great example back in the wartime. when their currency went close to zero and people were heating their homes with it.

They were in essence throwing the money in the street. They were wallpapering their house with it. Uh Do we want that for the United States? No, absolutely not. Can it happen?

If we don't get our financial house in order, that's the direction we're going. And Obviously, this scripture confirms it, but I've heard believers say this, Robbie.

Well, I'll just trust in the Lord. I I don't think I need any to do anything with my money, whether it be stocks, bonds, mutual funds or even gold. But the word trust is a verb. Uh it's action. Uh or excuse me.

Uh it is not only action, but you know, think about this, you know. God worked for six days and rested on the seventh. We have day and we have night.

So we have work and we have rest. Uh I can keep going through the scriptures, but What happens is, you know, and Jesus said, go into all the earth.

So it's the believer's work, whether it comes to witnessing fellowship, going to church, prayer. All those are action.

Well, prayer also is listening.

So that's a resting thing. But when it comes to the scriptures here about money, It's an action thing, and so God is requiring us to be stewardship. That's an action.

So it's warning us against something that might happen. It's telling us to don't place trust, ultimate trust in our financial security, whether it be gold, silver, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, retirements, whatever. Uh have your life being Anchored in Christ, and that is our hope. But don't take this scripture lightly. because there is a currency devaluation going on, and it looks like it could rapidly snowball on us if we get time into talking about that today.

Oh, it's it am it that's there you go. I mean, the Treasury debt report just came out, from what I understand, for the first eight months of 2026. And wow, it's it's horrendous. And you know, it talks in that scripture about this is the sin Right, that it's clear that we're not supposed to spend more than we are making, obviously. Yeah, you know, I I heard a definition of sin is Missing the target, and it's like archery.

You you come close, but you don't hit the bullseye.

Well, we're not even close on getting our house on a government level managed right, financially speaking. Let's take a look at that report, the Treasury robbery. Robbie said that we have created in the first eight months of our twenty twenty six Here's the frightening number, $2.4 trillion more debt. Let's put this into perspective. This is just eight months now.

In the whole year of twenty twenty four, we created two point two trillion. If we go back to when, say it's just okay, let's go back to some Democrats being in office like Biden. I'm not putting down g uh blue or g or red people. uh Republican or Democrat. It's they're all guilty.

And it's Congress, not just the President. But uh when Biden was office they were creating $1.7 trillion to $1.9 trillion of more debt every year. And Obama did it too, so did Bush.

So it's not a, oh, we got our house in order because President Trump's in office. That is not the case. The facts are just it's just simple numbers and mathematics. But let's dive deeper on this thing really quick. It took ten years only for our debt to double from twenty trillion to forty trillion.

We just did it last month. and a trillion dollars has been added to the national debt just since july first of this year If we continue this year and traject it out to the end of this year A full year of how much debt will be added would be four trillion dollars total. That's like ten percent increasing our debt in just a year.

So on top of that. The interest payment on the debt. is now one point two two trillion dollars That's a 240% increase of interest payment. in the last six years.

So it's Congress is reckless. It's an ugly financial mess. The dollar is going to devalue I'm not saying it's going to zero. In my lifetime. It could.

Scripture says it will happen eventually. I don't know when that day of reckoning is. But what we shouldn't be doing is, I'll just trust the Lord and I'll just wait for the rapture and we'll see what happens. That's not a good financial recipe, and that's not a scriptural principle. Trusting in the Lord is scriptural, but doing nothing is not.

action in being good stewards of our funds, diversification is the key. And as the dollar devalues, there's a direct correlation Between the dollar devaluing And it devalues when we spend too much money. And the world doesn't want to buy our debt, which snowballs this thing even more. And that's why I write these reports on how people can Get them for free by calling our company. And I think we're going to run out of time here, but next week I'm going to talk about.

with Stu a lot more in depth how the government is getting ready back the currency by gold and or silver. And this is going to cause a gold rally. We're already in one.

So The bottom line is apportioned to seven. abortion day, because you do not know what tragedy may befall you. Diversification is the key, and gold is in silver is in a major bull market. Right. And those packets he's talking about, you can get them.

It's just information, again, on Gold and Silver. Their phone number is 844-604-2575. That's 844-604-2575. Or if you like the internet like me, just go to landmarkgold.com. Again, it's landmarkgold.com to get those.

They're free papers and lots of information right along these lines. And that's a fascinating... idea that our it Our currency being backed by gold, It just seems unthinkable at this point in time. And I'm like, what? Is that really possible?

Well, you know, I do a lot of interviews. It is very possible that next week, Robbie, people are going to hear a lot of pieces to that puzzle, and the picture will be very clear. I'll leave your listening audience with this really simple thought. I do a lot of. interviews with every week, about seven of them on a national level.

And Steve Forbes was in one of the interviews with the same talk show host that I was with. His name is Joe Pisco. He used to be the one of the comedians for Saturday Night Live. Not that I endorse that show at all. But uh Joe is a believer.

I gotten to know him. And he's a follower of Christ. And He had Steve Forbes on there, and Steve asked the question here about two weeks ago, excuse me, a month ago. Uh excuse me, Joe asked the question to Steve Forbes a month ago, what about all this gold? I have a gold guy named David Fisher with Landmark Capital on, and he talks about gold.

What's your thoughts on gold? And Steve Forbes said this, And he's a believer, also, Steve Forbes. He said, our country is reckless. in managing our money and We should have nef never less a gold standard in Nixon under nineteen seventy one. And if we would have stayed on a gold standard, we wouldn't have a national debt like we have.

we wouldn't have a budget deficit of over two trillion dollars like we have. And Americans, their currency wouldn't have devalued like it has And the average person in America Would make between fifty to sixty thousand dollars more money. By being on a gold standard, and that is what we need to do. That is the fix. for our great country.

So President Trump is moving aggressively towards that. You're going to hear some facts next week about it. The bottom line is the government is getting ready to buy a lot of gold. You'll hear that. Whatever they buy usually goes up.

Don't miss out on that. Learn about that by calling our company. There's no obligation, no pressure, just facts in You know, people perish for lack of wisdom and knowledge. Get some of that from calling us, and we'll help you out. And number again is 844-604-2575.

That's 844-604-2575. or landmarkgold.com again for those free papers. Information. There's a lot going on that would lead to our better stewardship. Thanks again, David.

It's always fun to have Money Monday on with you. LandmarkThankster.com. God bless. Truth to the. Uh quiet.