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in the downtown Los Angeles Skid Road community. He's here to share another story with us. Here's Dion. The one thing that I was never able to Really? Get a handle on.
We were able to reduce crime 40%, reduce death 33%. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful achievements that we all engaged in. But One thing we couldn't fix was mental illness. Mental illness will forever be the challenge of our lifetime, in my opinion. As a matter of fact, I think it's about a third or maybe a half of the homeless problem, if you're thinking about it realistically.
We all know that in America, our solution to quote-unquote helping the mentally ill was to close down the asylums. And then they sued. nothing like it, even a better version of it, could ever come back. Yeah.
So now you kick people out into the streets in the name of civil liberties. Yay, you're free. You sprinkle pills on them and tell them, bye.
Okay. Come check on me every two weeks. Come check in every two weeks. Never happened.
Some of these individuals fell into the loving arms of family members, loved ones, you know. Who tried to help them? Others, Too many of the others ended up in places like Skid Row. And when they came to Skid Row, they would throw away their prescribed medication because it made them feel down, it made them feel lethargic. And in Skid Row, you got to be ready for everything.
So they throw that away or sell it. to make enough money to buy the hard stuff, the crack, the meth, the marijuana and all this other stuff. And uh Being mentally ill is not a crime. I've stated this. Any police officer you talk to will tell you: being paranoid, schizophrenic is not a crime, being bipolar is not a crime, being depressed is not a crime.
But when those things need heroin, crack, methamphetamines, fentanyl, spice, and yes, even marijuana. It can have disastrous consequences, and that's when they become a police problem. That's when no mental health professional is going to approach them when they're in an agitated state of delirium, slap bossing with city buses in their underwear and wearing red socks. You know, that's not going to happen. No matter what the rhetoric is today, they're going to call us first.
Because what do you do when it's not just paranoia? What do you do when there's a chemical buffer between you and the crisis? And that was the issue.
So there were so many mentally ill individuals who lost their lives in Skid Roll.
Some I ended up developing relationships with. One named Linda. Her nickname was The Hurricane. She saw me as her little brother, and I was her protector. And, you know, I remember I discovered she wasn't homeless because her family would come from Pacoima and pick her up and try to clean her up.
And one day my wife and I are driving to a party and this big, ugly van pulls up next to us and she sticks her head out the window. Wig flies off. False teeth comes out. Drool hits for window. Hey, Robocod.
Hey, big brothers. It's me. Because my wife never believed my story, but she was a believer that day. And it was Linda. She had been picked up by her family.
They tried to love her back to health, but she would often escape. because of her addiction. Dual diagnosis, okay. Another friend of mine was from the LBGTQ community, and he was often bullied. because he would wear Daisy Duke's But I like the guy.
He was a cool cat. But of course, when he was a high, it was like a Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde effect. And I'll never forget.
He was bullied by the gangsters in the park and they bloodied his lip. And of course, he was too afraid to fight them.
So he comes around the corner and his mental crisis kicks in, and he wants to fight me. And I said, Hey, it's me, Ricky, it's me. You don't want these kinds of problems, okay? You don't want these hands, Ricky.
So calm down. And he would try to calm down. And then he walked away from me and tried to take his aggressions out on a pregnant woman. And I grabbed him before he could harm her, wrestled him to the ground. And handcuffed him, I thought for sure they're going to place this guy on a hold.
For sure, it's going to be more than 72 hours, for sure, it's going to be about two weeks. Nope. He was out in about six hours. If I remember correctly. Um And a month later, He finally decided to stand up for himself when a parolee started attacking him because of the clothes he was wearing.
and the paroli stabbed him in the heart. He was in a hospital for about six weeks before he finally passed away. And I always ask these questions to the public, you know, because they always want to blame us when things fall apart. Whose fault is it? Was it the.
Our fault or was it the system? It was a system because the way the system is set up, the law enforcement is always going to be the tip of the spear until we actually change the mental health system and bring some common sense mechanisms back in place. Like, for instance, instead of three days, 72 hours, it should be six weeks. And the reason why is it takes about four to six weeks for most of their medication for them to even benefit from the therapeutic attributes of their medication. That's common sense.
So don't release them until that six weeks is up.
So they'll be in the habit of taking their medication. Also, during that six weeks, you know you have to clean them up before you can help them. Because a lot of them do what's called cleaning up. They'll go to the hospital six hours later, they'll say, hey, how are you feeling? Oh, I'm fine.
Why are they saying that? Because they want to go out there and scratch their chemical itch, right? Instead, get them clean first. Once you got them clean, develop a report with them. And Find out who their family members and loved ones are.
And see if we can get them connected. And let's streamline the process of conservatorships so that we can get their family members to help them and just help them guide them a little better. And even if that doesn't happen, they'll be in a habit of taking their medication and they won't fall off the wagon as long. But until that happens, we're going to continue to see them. Countless tragedies that I've seen every day.
It's near and dear to my heart because I have a niece who's mentally ill. I have a nephew who's touched with a little mental illness. I watched foster kids who were really struggling with it. And I even mentor young men on the spectrum of autism. I think about once or twice a year when I can.
And it's near and dear to my heart. And I just wish somebody would listen to this street cop. I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm not political. I just want to tell you the truth from a boots on the ground perspective.
I'm not looking at it from 30,000 feet. I'm not some college professor who's overly idealistic, who only sees one way. I just want to tell you the truth of what's happening in the street. And a terrific job on the editing, producing, and story editing by our own Greg Hengler. And a special thanks to Dion Joseph for sharing his story.
And we all know the problems of mental health, and it is indeed one-third to one-half. of the homeless problem in this country is mental illness and we don't have answers. and if in any way our stories can lead to those answers.
Well, then we have helped do something good for all of us, for all of our families, and for those most harmed. And that's the mentally ill who aren't properly treated. And end up on the streets. Deion Joseph's story, and in so many ways, the story of cops across this country who deal with the things that we don't want to deal with, here on Our American Stories. Lee Habib here, and I'd like to encourage you to subscribe to Our American Stories on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, Spotify, or wherever you get our podcasts.
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