The following is a pre-recorded program. Please click Let's try that, do some video work, there we go, all right. Now, we're having a little bit of a problem on stream, I mean, not StreamYard, but Rumbles, two days in a row now where we've had some issues. So I don't know if it's working, they're gonna let me know if it's working in the private jet tax, private jet, Rumbles working? Ah, well, what do you know, what do you know?
So I tried a different technique, because it was broken, something wasn't right, so there we go. All right, also, if you wanna give me an email, you can do that, all you need to do is just, is, let's see, go to, send an email to info at karm.org, info at karm.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G, and put in the subject line, radio comment, or radio question, and we can get to you, we can get to you, so it shouldn't be a big deal, hope to hear from you. All right, let's see, we've got a caller coming in. Now, we'll get to that in a little bit, so I had a good discussion last night on Reformed theology on a chat room, and it was really interesting, it was in Clubhouse, and there are some rabid anti-Reformed people, the anti-sovereignty of God people, and they'll say, if you believe in Reformed theology, you're going to hell, and you know, and things like this, and so I went into this room, and right when I went in, the moderator said, so, anybody have any questions? And I'll answer the questions, this person said, and I said, I got questions. Well, it turned out, she couldn't answer the questions. You know, I'd ask a specific question, then she'd answer something else, and she goes, yeah, I answered it.
No, you didn't, and it was really difficult, and then after a bit, all she would do was over-talk me constantly, and interrupt, and start yelling, and stuff like that, because incompetence, a lot of incompetence in some people. Anyway, that was it, a lot of fun, and if you want, you can, like I said, give me a call, 877-207-2276, let's get the busman from date and date, I mean, the busman, welcome, you're on the air. Hey, Matt, I'm just wondering, brother, did you get my email that I sent you? Yes, I haven't looked at it, though, yeah, but yep. Okay, okay, I was gonna say, and I told our screener, dear St. Nick, that I can hold off after you have read it so that we can talk about it, but since you don't have the information yet, and I know you're a busy man, Matt, I'll call back on another program, but yeah, take a look, and once again, Matt, it's mainly, I would like to see, and I think this is happening, brother Matt, I think, from what reports I'm getting after the shootings, Mr. Trump, there's reports, Matt, that he has been convicted by the Holy Spirit, and so that will change some of the information, or some of my stance, if you will, all I wanna know is, is will Donald Trump bend to the Lord Jesus Christ, not just purvey the name of God, because Jesus was the name given unto men where we might be saved, not the name or word God, and I want to vote for Mr. Trump if he's repentant, and he is kneeling to the cross, and I guess that's what my point was yesterday, brother. Okay, well, I can't tell you if he has or hasn't. We'll just see in the next few weeks.
We'll find out. Yes, and I'm really looking forward to his speech at tomorrow's RNC there, Matt. It'll be interesting to see how he addresses the Republican National Convention. We might see some indicators, and I'm praying, I am praying for Donald J. Trump's heart to be absolutely consumed with our Lord Jesus Christ.
I would love that more than we know. Well, I used to be in contact with a guy who knew Trump personally, and he said Trump's a Christian. Now, I can't verify stuff. He said, yeah, he was a Christian. How strong was he walking? I don't know.
Maybe this'll shake him up, but that's what I was told. Right, right, so I'll call back on another show, take a look at that information, and thanks for your time, Matt. Love your show, brother. Okay, sounds good. Appreciate it. All right, and there we go. We have nobody waiting.
If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. And so we, Rumble, we broadcast to YouTube, we broadcast to Rumble as well as the radio stations. And so right when I go in to set it up today, thinking that the problem that they had yesterday would work, would be solved, it wasn't solved. The same methodology.
So I panicked, directed panic, and I went in and did some other stuff, and got it to work. So there we go. All right, so there we go. There we go, okay, good, checking things out. Also, hey, look, if you want, you can listen to me on Clubhouse.
Now, there are not that many people on Clubhouse who listen, but they do, and there's a good, faithful following there. We also have them on Rumble. Now, I'm not sure how to get to it on Rumble now. It should be the same URL, rumble.com forward slash MattSlickLive, and that's, I think, probably get to it. But because the procedures have been changed, I don't know if that's exactly correct.
I think it is, but it should be the same. We're also on MattSlickLive on YouTube. So if you want to watch the show, me sitting here while we're talking, please check it out, and you can do that if you want. You can also, like I said, send me an email at info at karm.org, info at karm.org, and you can do that, and put in the subject line, radio comment, radio question, and there you go. Easy peasy, we have nobody waiting right now, so what I think I'm gonna do is go into some of the emails, and just do some email answering, radio questions that are being answered.
Let's check this out. What happens immediately after God grants us belief, faith in Jesus? We are then justified, we're declared righteous in God's eyes, justifications, a legal standing of righteousness before God. We are declared righteous, so that's one of the things that happens. We are then moved out of the wrath of God, that's the indwelling of God occurs as well, of being born again. We're guaranteed, we have the privilege then of being able to fellowship with other true believers, so there's several things that happen right after God grants that we have faith, and people say, well no, he doesn't grant that we have faith that we just choose of our own free will, and that's not correct. In Philippians 1 29 it says to you it has been granted to believe, so God grants that we believe. In fact, Jesus says in John 6 65, he says, you cannot come to me unless it's granted to you from the Father. Now these are verses a lot of people don't like, they rebel against stuff like that, and start saying, well you're teaching Reformed theology. Well, that's what the scriptures teach. I mean, that's what's right there, you know. If I quote it and you don't like it because of that, we know where the problem lies, so.
All right, let's see, hey Matt, why is that cultic group like Witness Lee? Dude, always, okay, we went over that one before. Okay, let's try this one. I know you debate a lot of atheists. Have you ever talked with, no I haven't, Ronald Reagan.
Why are these, maybe we have repeats, maybe sometimes there's repeats. So, interesting, interesting. All right, well hey, let's get on the air with Ron from Wake Forest, North Carolina.
Ron, welcome, you're on the air. Yes sir, I have a quick question. You know, long, many years ago, I used to be a part of the United Pentecostal Church and I got out of it. But what was wrong with that? I mean, I know it was wrong in their teaching, but can you go a little more in detail? Sure.
Sometimes I feel like, I feel like, I wanna make sure, I've said the right thing when I left. Yeah, you did. The United Pentecostal Church, the UPC, is a non-Christian cult. And it's a cult, non-Christian, because it denies the doctrine of the Trinity, denies that God is a Trinity, and says that God is one person who has different manifestations throughout different times.
So that's, right there, a false god. They openly, repeatedly deny the true and loving God. Second, they add baptism, and the formula is in Jesus' name, not in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but in Jesus' name, as the proper means by which you obtain salvation. So they require baptism as a means of salvation, and that's a false doctrine also. So they're adding a ceremony to salvation, so they deny justification by faith alone and Christ alone. Furthermore, as I already said, the baptismal formula is wrong, so they do that, they misunderstand what that is about. Second, there's a problem with Nestorianism.
And I'll explain what that is, I'll slow down a little bit here. But Nestorianism is the teaching, it's a false teaching, that the person of Christ, the body of Christ, the physical body of Christ, was occupied by two different persons, a human person and a divine person. So this is Nestorianism.
Now there's another doctrine that they don't believe, but just to go through various errors, one called Eutychianism, where the two natures of Christ are so mixed up you can't distinguish between them. Then there's Monophysitism, which is the teaching that there's one nature, that the God-man nature is a new third thing, and that's a problem. The correct doctrine's a hypostatic union in the one person are two natures.
Now the reason this is important is because we have a problem here, we have to answer or solve. Jesus has two natures, but only the human nature, the human aspect died on the cross. But if that's the case, how is the sacrifice of divine value? And the answer is found in the doctrine called the communication of the properties, where the attributes of both natures are ascribed to the single person. So Jesus claimed the qualities of humanity as well as divinity in one person.
He says, I'll be with you always, even at the end of the earth. That's a claim of divinity, or the Father and I will come and make our abode in you, John 14, 23. All right, so when Jesus the person died on the cross, it was the physical aspect, though it was physical. The person of Christ died on the cross, the person has divine attributes, so therefore the sacrifice is of divine value.
All right, now, when we go to the oneness position, the United Pentecostal position, they have two persons in the body of Christ, only the human person died, and there's no communication of properties of the divine to that aspect, so therefore the sacrifice is not of divine value and is insufficient to cleanse us of our sins. Okay? There's a lot there in the last one, but that's okay. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yep, all right. Yeah, like I said, I used to be involved in it for about 30-some years, and I finally left, you know? And it's like, what really bothered me so much about it, Matt, was the legalism on top of it, too.
You know, honestly, when I was going down, I felt guilty the whole time, you know? You know, keep all the rules and regulations, and I'm wrong. Yeah, it's a cult. You keep salvation by your goodness.
That's what it's teaching. Hey, buddy, there's the break. We gotta go. All right. All right, ma'am, God bless. Bye. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages.
If you wanna call me, 877-207-2276. ["The Art of something in the NIV for me. Isaiah 66 I was telling the screen caller. Isaiah 66 verse 22 to 24 because that's what I read from the NIV. I want to hear what you, oh you don't have it. Well I use ANSB and in order to get to the NIV I'd have to, oh there's an NIRV and I'd have to go through a whole bunch of translations. There's the NIV. Okay so you want me to read Isaiah 66 22 right through.
22 to 24. Okay as a new heavens, new earth. I'm confused.
Will endure before me declares the Lord so will your name and descendants endure from one new moon to another from one Sabbath to another all mankind will come and bow down before me says the Lord and he will go out and look over the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me the worms that Ethan will not die the fire that burns and will not be quenched they'll be loathsome to all mankind. Okay so there you go. What's your take on that? Well in what respect?
How about a millennial king? I mean annihilationism, eternal punishment, figurative use of speech or what? Well first of all who's who's that speaking? What's okay is there a point I'm just curious is there a point you're trying to make? No I'm just I'm trying I'm trying to figure out what what do you mean by that? I'm confused I'm not I'm not trying to pick you up anything.
Oh okay. I'm actually trying to trying to figure out what's going on with that. I'm going because I'm reading a chapter a day and that's where I'm at and I came across that yeah and I came across that to finish out like there I'm in Jeremiah now and I said wait a minute I asked a few people and they don't know so I'm like I'm confused myself what is God saying? Okay so it is God who's speaking there okay he's gonna make a new heavens and a new earth now this is prophesied there and it's going to be fulfilled in the future it's spoken of in 2nd Peter 3 and Revelation 21 also the new heavens and the new earth okay so you would have 2nd Peter 3 9 for example it says the Lord's not slow no in verse 10 the Lord did Lord come like a thief in which the heavens will disappear the helmets be destroyed and the earth and everything and it will be laid bare so God is going to have a new heaven as a new earth in particular he's going to create new stuff because the sin of Adam has affected the the nature okay not just humanity but nature itself is also affected and so in the previous chapter Isaiah 65 it talks about babies living to be a hundred years old and people not dying and things like that there's a lot of figurative usage there so this is one of the issues that people have when looking at end times stuff how literally do we take it says there shall be a new moon to new moon and from Sabbath to Sabbath all mankind will come bow down before me so this is generally used in the pre-millennial view that during the millennial thousand-year reign in that view at that it'll be a new Jerusalem literally on earth and people will come to Jerusalem and worship because Jesus will physically be there and I don't have a problem with that Matt okay well the problem I really got a problem with Matt is the one where he says we're going to see the dead body that's what I was going to get to right next because okay sorry yeah then then they will go forth and look on the corpses of the men who have transgressed against me for their world will not die and their fire will not be quenched and they will be an abhorrence to all mankind and that is that's a difficult thing to interpret if you assume a literal thousand years because if that's the case and Jesus is physically sitting on a throne in Jerusalem which I have a problem with but if that's the case then it would also mean that there had to be a bunch of dead bodies everywhere and that doesn't seem to fit what's going on so it's hard it's just hard but could he be talking about the very end after the millennial well it says okay so here's a thing even from the pre-millennial position at the end of the thousand years and new heavens and new earth are made the judgment occurs and wicker cast out so it wouldn't fit that that it's after the millennium because it says it says they will go forth and look on the corpses of the men yeah but they're gonna be inhaled oh they're gonna be inhaled at that point because he says where the worm dies in the in the in the fire Jesus even quoted that he says they're gonna go to hell and the worm doesn't die and the fire is gonna burn forever if it says am I right I'm just saying yes but it says the corpses so you could have the spirit of somebody not be in a body and it could be in a place of suffering well the corpse is on earth so I'm just saying it's not that easy to interpret and with a worm will not die well the worms do die and the fire won't be quenched well the fires are quenched this is figurative language obviously in the illustration here is the fires of Gehenna outside of Jerusalem that they would throw the refuse out there it was a continuously burning thing it went on for decades and decades just continuously burning and so that image the worm doesn't die and the fires don't go out it's a constant ongoing thing that's what's talking about so the question then becomes when you're looking on the corpses how does that fit in there I don't know how it fits in in the pre-millennial view because it might be that there might be a time at the end of the tribulation period when there's bodies that are destroyed in Armageddon and it you see and plus it just really gets complicated stuff in Matthew 24 Luke 17 it talks about two men in the field one is taken one is left the ones who are taken are the wicked not the good and the where they're taken is the by they asked Jesus where they take and he says where the body is the vultures gather so if they look upon the corpses it looks like at the end of the seven year tribulation that there's going to be a bloodbath and we'll be able to look upon the corpses of the wicked maybe in Armageddon so I don't know okay it's just man this is scary I just yeah scary you made some good points there thanks a lot man but that's that's just scary you know they even think about you know be on God's back that's the bottom line yes that's right beyond God's sight that's right okay yeah yeah then we don't have to worry about the worms in the fire right that's not that that's really a Christian can't Christians can't lose their salvation and we don't have to worry what's going in faith in Christ okay okay thanks a lot man I appreciate it man all right man god bless okay all right all right all right hey if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six let's get to Dave oh there's a break I gotta put you back on hold Dave sorry about that and we'll be right back after these messages please stay tuned we'll be right back with Dave in with three open lines eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six you it's max like live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six here's max slick all right welcome back to the show we have three open lines if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six let's get back on with David let's see if I can activate him don't know if I can or not maybe the quote there we go we're already on okay good so what's up Dave what you got my question had to do with but how would you deal with voting for somebody who was not Christian or say agnostic specifically in regards to the vague Ramaswami who's publicly stated that he is a Hindu and while I like the things he says I know what I know about Hinduism is completely contrary and opposed to the Constitution and the founding principles of this country so I was just curious what your thoughts were on that because his if he is consistent in his worldview and the religion he says he ascribes to he would not his views would not fit with our government you'd have to interview him in personally if he's a Hindu there are certain principles like universal spirit universal consciousness kind of a thing karma reincarnation and you could ask him what how would that influence your decisions he may say they don't you know I don't know if I were a Christian if I'm a Christian as if I were running for political office and someone said how would your Christianity affect your decisions I'd say oh it would definitely absolutely I'd be honest I wouldn't take bribes etc etc so you know just depends and I know he's conservative and he's pro-life and he's you know he's very successful so he's got a lot of conservative ideas I wouldn't have a problem just voting for a Hindu given the right circumstances the right stuff but I wouldn't say I'm not gonna go for a Hindu because he's Hindu or I wouldn't vote for an atheist because he's an atheist it depends on what they are gonna do with the Constitution how they're gonna hold it up are they gonna help us or hurt us you know and I don't Biden claims to be a Christian and look what he's done to this country he's just wrecked it so you know okay I was just curious what your thoughts are because as I and based on my understanding of how tight the class system and karma is to those beliefs that that would be opposed to where we're at if he holds up if he holds the Constitution and he swears to uphold the Constitution that's what we want we want people in office who will actually do that and not do what these these brain-dead political people are doing now we want to uphold it so if he's doing that okay and he might have a view of not justifying Hinduism it's a false religion but he might have the view that his reincarnation will be affected by how good he is and how much he helps people here it might be in a sense productive that way so you know you just gotta be careful you can't just do a sweeping thing on a person because of because of his religious thing either way okay just because he's a Christian doesn't mean he's gonna be good for the country either so we got to be this is true okay I just thought I'd get your thoughts on it cuz I've been mulling over that yeah yeah I have no problem with voting for people who are not Christians as long as I'll uphold the Constitution and they actually do uphold the Constitution and they don't go for the killing of babies and the promotion of the woke ideology and the alphabet mob and in the brainwashing of our children among many things I'd want them to be non socialist non communist as as we got people you know like yeah Gavin Newsom you know we wouldn't want him in office he could say he's a Christian I wouldn't vote for that guy if he were still running against you know a believing tree frog I'd vote for the frog so you know it's just yeah seriously or as I used to say that one of my books in a humor book I said I actually said this we're trying to impress a girl you take her to a pet store I'm going a long way around for this I take her to a pet store and you you go to the kitten section or the puppy section and you just say that's a cute kitten or that's a cute puppy just say the words that's it and she'll think that you're really a lovely guy you care about people and she thinks you'd be great with children but I said in the book but do not go to the section where there's a Bolivian slug rat and say that Bolivian slug rat is cute they should be thinking we're children to be looking like you got it should get out of there you know so all the good fun sounds good I got more in that book it's an actual book I wrote so I actually put that in there yeah it's called how to woo and win women by being an obnoxious jerk it's on Amazon and so yeah I wrote it in seminary and I've got nobody waiting so we can ramble about all kinds of stuff here and it's full of stupidity it's just it's stupid and I remember once I was I written all these chapters right and I was going to put it all together and send it off to a publisher and I did and they liked it they said send it next year well we'll you know formally publish it and I lost the address and lots of stuff and moved in at any rate so I sell publish it on Amazon just just to get out of my hair and have it fun with it but anyway so as I was putting it all together in chapter 1 2 3 4 you know all this stuff chapter 9 was how to be interesting well I forgot to write anything in there and so when I printed everything up but I was going through it chapter 9 was blank how to be interesting and it started cracking up so I left it like that it's as full of stupidity and and then I even tell you I even tell you how to get a girl to like you okay it works it works what you do you have to understand that a woman has something called a bewilder filter okay and they have a mothering instinct gene so you have to activate both of them at the same time all right and one of the ways to activate it is you get her over your apartment whatever you know you're dating and you take a bunch of clothes and you like whites with reds in them and you walk towards the washer okay just walk towards the washer lady while you're looking at her and she'll go and she'll get in there and she'll want to rescue the clothing and she'll push you aside and then she's gonna do the you separate I bet she gives you an arm head the whole bit what you've done is you've activated the mothering instinct drive now what also happens is the bewilder filter it gets kicked in the next few days they can't help it because the next day she's thinking about you moron he's a jerk and but she's thinking about you a whole bunch the bewilder filter says she's thinking about you because she likes you not because you're a moron it's so you see it's I got it all planned out in the book and it's all how to do how to do everything it's it's right I would love it if I could get some of your books in audio I'm audible because you know it's one of the things I want to do is read that one and I also I'm just rambling right now we got nobody cuz my show here but I also write short stories and I have a short story series about a guy named Bernard P Rumford and he's an accountant at a symbol factory and he likes the polka pips and things go wrong with him all the time you know and it's just subtle humors you read through it and people who write them they think they I haven't never published him I just write you know stuff I need to do a full series on him all kinds of things happen and I had a friend we were coming back from a city like a three-hour drive and hadn't read one of the stories I had my phone he goes man this is funny it's fun so anyway I have a good sense of humor people just don't know and I had to goof around and have a lot of fun so but the book had a woo and win women by being obnoxious jerk no research necessary was all natural so it's there so okay okay well that was more or less everything oh and you gotta get this book most men need the last one of the chapters how to dress like a mannequin that's an important thing for most guys so okay there's nobody on hold I was good another summit side topic I've heard a number of people saying that the fact that Trump's assassin missed and by how much was an act of Providence I was wondering how much stock you might put in that well it is by definition theologically providential because all things work after the counsel of God's will and that's Ephesians 1 11 so the Providence God ordained that that not occur to he not be fully assassinated you know that he was hit he was shot six of us here okay now is it an angelic intervention we don't know is it something that God has wanted Trump to do later on we don't know so that's that's lucky say there's a break okay all right man all right all right folks say if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six be right back it's Matt slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six here's Matt slick all right but welcome back to the show let's get back on and pearl is back here say hey Pearl welcome you're on the air um sir I would like to ask your opinion I know that you are staunch believer in the Word of God so am I the in the amplified Bible in 1962 the person or persons who are doing the amplification on the Song of Solomon give the opinion that the Little Shulamite maiden whom I understand is the Church of the Living God they don't say it there but she her love is laid completely at the feet of the shepherd now in 2015 amplified Bible they give the exact opposite the lover of the God Almighty who is loving the church is King Solomon now they don't change the Little Shulamite maiden but they change those two very important people in that translation I like it's not what I like but anyway I read the well what's your question 1962 and the shepherd went just stole my heart rather than the and then I got a new the new amplified of 2015 and it says it just ruined me because it was King Solomon then do you have a pet an opinion on that have you ever thought of it no no I've not gone to those particular versions of that particular Bible on those dates and looked at that particular verse with those words so no I haven't so you can't help me down no I wouldn't be able to tell you without having the books going through looking at what's going on research yeah and I don't so but you gotta understand you know amplified Bibles are not literal translations they're almost commentary ish as they is they they so to speak translate it's really expanded quite a bit interpreted quite a bit okay well I guess I wouldn't when I first read the part two which is the Old Testament and read about the shepherd and I have heard one minister ministers do not preach the Psalms Solomon it's so beautiful I would oh I think it's a great book and I think I know what it's about I think you would have an opinion of that on your own yeah I believe it's a love letter and yes it's reflective of the church but no I believe a textual guy girl and stuff like that and I've written on it I wrote a whole sexuality section on calm I deal with that quite a bit so okay yeah you couldn't give me any opinion as to what you think of it which one would you choose from reading and setting what well I just use an ESB Bible that's no I mean be would you choose the King Solomon as being the bridegroom I'm not sure you need in the way you use it the shepard in the particular things you mentioned not having them I can't say because I don't know what I could be careful I don't answer a question that you're referring to back two minutes ago when you might be something so I don't know I'd have to know and take a look at everything to see in those versions and stuff and see and then what exact verses and things like that okay well in six four it says I am I don't know which is song aside what you just King Solomon you are beautiful yeah but I think the shepherd who says turn away your eyes from me for they have overcome me well you and I know nothing overcomes God Almighty you know I think I think it's just it's a love letter it's really love letter between the bride yeah but problem with that but which is it is it is it the shepherd or is it King Solomon only understand one of the question I'm asking I'll leave that open for now okay okay just go read commentaries on it and go read other Bible versions and since you mentioned different stuff in different versions or different interpret different things I don't I'm not sure how to respond at this point okay well I thought you were such a love and expiry to an app well maybe you could give me your opinion on it what I would say is I I'm not exactly sure how to answer it okay all right that's what I'm gonna say well maybe one more question okay we have no meaning so but go ahead okay uh-huh I heard a minister on the radio just to tell the end of it what he said and I hope I have it right but he said that God Almighty gave us over to death in other words he killed us from himself so that he could save us for himself no you didn't kill us from himself no yeah it's just not by the language of Scripture and people need to be careful when they start saying things like that because you could read too many ambivalent kind of things into it and so you wouldn't agree with that without knowing the context and what he meant by certain statements I really can't agree with it so far but if I knew the context and what he said maybe I would say oh okay I get what he's saying it's okay but I don't know the context so really can't comment too much okay well I wondered because I know I believe that God Almighty is the only God we have he can do anything anytime anywhere to any extent he wants to he can turn something that he's allowed evil into absolute holiness he can do anything he wants to do he's sovereign that's correct he is my God he can do anything and that's what I thought well it's that sounds truthful to me that he he could allow us to die so that he could save us for himself we died with Christ because of federal headship of the representation that Christ had of the elect Romans 6 6 Romans 6 8 were died with him were crucified with him Galatians 2 20 we died with him so touching that's how we that's how we died in Christ I know I know that's what I love about you is you know the word but I don't believe you can help me on either one yeah well you know sometimes I can't but anyway I gotta get going I've got other callers okay would you sometimes read the song of Solomon and if I called back you might could give me your thoughts on it well it's I I don't want to commit to doing that I'm so busy with so many things but thank you sir bye-bye okay April well god bless okay all right let's get to Andrew from North Carolina Andrew welcome you're on the air good afternoon I just had a I guess I hope it's a simple question so personally I don't believe in female pastors I believe it's not scriptural it's good more of just a modern movement heresy yes so I've been looking for a church for me and my family for a while I thought we had found a great church and they are sorry I'm trying to get pulled into the driveway they are okay they apparently they do believe in women pastors and they've even brought some in a special speakers and female ministers in the such you know the denomination is this because it's it's a it's a false church so far yeah I think they consider themselves non-denominational okay yeah I've got a lot of material on my women not to be pastors and elders you might if you want you could print it up presented to them they're not going to listen they don't care but anyway but go but go ahead but would that be reasonable ground to say not to come back to that church absolutely I mean they do a lot of great outreach they do yes yes it is yes it is enough reason not to go back okay the Bible says Paul says I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over man but her being silent for Adam was first created he does not want a woman to have authority over men and because it's tied to the created order it's not a cultural thing that's in 1st Timothy 2 12 and 13 and 1st Timothy 3 15 the next chapter over he says he's giving instruction on how to behave in the household of God that should be enough right there for them to understand women are not to be pastors and elders and then what they'll do is the these these false teachers there are false teachers in this regard is they'll say well Deborah was you know a judge and Phoebe was an apostle they'll say all these things and they don't study the the context and let me just say it one more time I'll do that I've been those four I don't know I'm gonna radio first for almost here in this about 21 years anyway I've been saying look I will be glad to have a formal debate on this topic does the Bible support women pastors and elders I've been offering this periodically for many many years not a single person's ever taken me up on it you don't want a representative of a church pastor or an elder not just Bob who became a Christian three weeks ago and he thinks he knows stuff but someone you know in a church or something even our denominational represent that representative or head oh I'd love that but it's never gonna happen it's never gonna happen okay right yeah they're afraid they're chicken and they are not following the Word of God and I just flat-out say it they are in rebellion against the Word of God do not go to such a church and 80% in my research 80% of the churches and denominations that have doc women pastors and elders 80% within two generations affirm homosexuality as a legitimate alternative lifestyle okay yeah yeah this is a big deal this is a big deal okay women are not to be in that position men are supposed to step up and if real men were in a church real godly Christian men who were the church and that happened they need to step up right away and say we're not putting up with this not having it they need to call the elders on the carpet at they the elders aren't there used then the congregation needs to raise a ruckus and say nope there could be men in the congregation need to raise a ruckus and say no we're not putting up with this where's you know where's manhood now where we sit in a pew and someone in a woman pastor gets up oh it's okay I'm gonna offend anybody screw that you get there and offend okay act like men first Corinthians 16 to okay sorry all right gives me madness should have said something maybe like there we go all right so would it be wrong of me to talk with them on it before I'd before I make it my mind on whether or not to leave it's so first printed 16 time bring it to see if they would talk to them I would talk to them and you can go to my website calm org and look up the information on why they're not to be pastors and elders I even have a single sheet double-sided print up you can take and take with them and so you can also say this guy in the radio be glad to debate you and talk to you about it you call them on the carpet let's see if they accept they won't there's the music gotta go okay buddy sorry we're out of time all right thank all right folks okay yeah that's it's a subject that just gets me because it's bad news hey we're out of time god bless talk to you tomorrow
