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The concept of Christian nationalism is discussed, with some arguing it's a movement within certain Christian areas, while others see it as a way to implement Christian principles in politics and society. The separation of church and state is also explored, with some believing it's a constitutional principle, while others argue it's not. The influence of Christianity on the US nation is highlighted, and the importance of the church being involved in legislation is emphasized.

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You can participate in the chat. If you like this video, please subscribe to this video. So first, It's twisted in such a way that now it's a good thing so that we could well sins bad But the good thing is now we can become gods, you know, and it's just oh and I remember Stopping and realizing it and I remember looking at the shopping cart. I can still see it when it hit me Only the ungodly celebrates sin That was it This thought just flooded my mind only the ungodly celebrates sin and That that's how I summed up Mormonism, I remember that anyway, because the Email was about feelings. Okay, you feel the truth. In fact, let's go to the Mormonism thing I know that Mormon missionaries when I would meet with them and stuff years ago Haven't done it for a while lately. I wonder why they come to my house anymore I don't know what the deal is, but they would say after a presentation. How do you feel about this?

How I feel about it is that? It's full of crud. That's why I feel I wouldn't say that because they don't want to go with Logic, they don't want to go with evidence.

They won't go with Scripture. It's how do you feel and that's the basis for deception Because you're actually saying when you go with your feelings. Well the testimony from God.

Oh, is it really? Yes How do you know because he wouldn't deceive me? How do you know your how do your God wouldn't do that? Now my God know the true God would not do that.

How do you know? How do you know where's get it out of the Bible out of your feelings? What your feelings say he won't deceive you the true God won't but the God of Mormonism. Oh, of course He will because he's a false god You know an exalted man for another planet used to be a sinner as a goddess wife and so uh Yeah, that's what Mormonism teaches believe it or not, so I've had so many times talking to Mormons where it's not feelings.

What do you feel about this? How do you feel that I have a testimony? They have a testimony and I tell them my testimony I can you know is greater than your testimony, and I've never had a Mormon match my testimony I say so my testimony.

I too much. I tell them about my salvation experience. I say so um There's your testimony greater than that the very presence of the Lord. I mean not just a feeling his presence. He's actually there Have you got that no okay?

Well out of that. I bear my testimony to you that Joseph Smith was a false prophet I have the power of the Holy the authority the Holy Spirit by the authority Christ and uh whoo I'll tell you They don't like it, but look look what Satan and when look what? Moses wrote about this when the woman saw that the tree was good for food a delight to the eyes Desirable so what she saw and what she wanted Hey, I will I'll do is subject God's Word to what I see to what I think to what I feel That's what's going on there Anyway all that from the email the hate mail where the guy says we can feel God through heavenly vibrations Emitted by the Earth's core atmosphere so first of all Other vibrations emitted by the Earth's core.

I've never heard it. How does the Earth's core atmosphere? The Earth's core have an atmosphere West into the Hall of the Earth thing and then how how do you have heavenly vibrations from the Earth's core? Because of the heaven not be earth so you see Sometimes when people write stuff they disengage the logic clutch, and they let things spin and Oh my geez heavenly vibrations are And then they sign it off so yeah their logic clutch is spinning hey Let's get to Cole from Virginia Cole welcome. You're on the air man Hey, Matt slick. Are you doing sir? Hanging in there hanging in there on a nice Friday.

What do you got buddy? You told me to call you back today, man what about at the police and uh... gravel group revelations twenty one bernie you know you are all i remember you know you know iron yeah you know uh... and i remember that well i mean i think the but remember you really don't really consider anything i say just patient can dismiss it well i consider it but you know i'm kind of grounded what i think what i feel you know and what do you see what was your position again well it's revelation twenty one three if you read that swan bars you know the tabernacle of god of is among men and he will go among them and they shall be his people got himself will be abundant yes you know well you don't have to keep father we're going to be a man noted no ok remember now uh... yeah it says god is among them but as you'll see doesn't say they'll see him if you can assume that they're going to be a part of us because god is among us right now he's living is living in a certain dwelling us you know the body of christ well i'm telling you john fourteen twenty three the father and the son both live in us so he's definitely among us in the presence well all wait a minute or not let me ask you one question now satan's are quite right it moves a person got face-to-face uh... most probably but who do i don't know i think that's a good question i don't know i don't know if it ever so i don't remember remember hold on hold on to me and i want to hold on hold on ok man you see that sinking you're reacting once think do you know of any place in scripture that says satan saw god you can just imply i'm going to tell you no katie out remember when even when joel where he went up before god and the sons of god uses coke got noble person to his face if you take everything it worked out karman kar he was the lead angel combat you know he's all got faith in the world on the hand what what wait a minute people ask you do you believe the trinity do you believe that we're going to go back to that who said uh... had the answer was simply yesterday eight eight eight the answer simply yes i don't need a bunch of stuff yeah now ok they they saw god in the old testament right all right that was not the father that they saw because jesus says john six forty six not that anyone has seen the father no one has seen him go they have not seen what i thought in the flash back in the flash back and hold on hold on it doesn't say that and you can't add to god's word to change its meaning i think false teachers do yes it's all right let me ask you let me ask you i'm gonna ask you one question and then we can cut it off if you want uh... now you really think that's going to last go through eternity without seeing in dot the father are you kidding me man are you really do you really believe that yes absolutely because uh... the bible says that when we get to heaven i'm gonna show you see matt i see matt i told you we were gonna see god's father because we're gonna see him man because the bible says that the father dwells in unapproachable light who no man has seen or can see first timothy six sixteen so we'll check that verse out and uh... and uh... imply it or working into all the rest of your theology ok we gotta go buddy first timothy six sixteen hey folks we'll be right back after these messages please it's matt slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six here's matt slick everybody welcome back to the show if you want to give me a call it is easy all you have to do is dial eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six let's get to buskman buskman welcome you're on the air the group to talk to you matt slick uh... here we are ending up pride month and a question that has come by me that i've i've been pondering i want to take on it homosexuality whether it be male or female attracted to the same sex can one can one be attracted to the same sex and still be a disciple of the lord jesus christ by living biblically according to god's word and its precepts as how we are to live and act and behave and believe in order to uh... obey christ is it possible to be bows it's possible to i have a whole sexual tendencies and recognize that they are sinful and war against them and and be a christian but not to call it a system insulate yes i know and now what i would see that is is is like all right up myself match i live a celibate life though i'm attracted and i have a friend who was attracted he's been this way since he was uh... little uh... he wrote a book about it you can learn about him he's on the internet he he's been on uh... various christian talk shows and podcast and uh... his name is george carl i don't know i don't i just don't know if he's good so that i don't want that to be promoted don't know if it's good or bad so understate understood so but i know him personally so i have met with him or bread with me and he has insights that pretty amazing so uh... the question always comes back to me as bossman why don't you pray for him he's not a christian he can't be because he's attracted to males and my response is well i'm a christian and i'm attracted to females i don't quite understand the walk if we both have a desire and we both take every thought captive to the obedience of christ and we conquer that desire we go the route that james has taught us when we are tempted there is a way out and we take that way out does it matter that i'm attracted to females and he's attracted to males that's being attracted to females is natural is what god has designed and and uh... you know the males uh... for male to be attracted to female is not what god has designed it's inherently simple but you didn't really attracted to mail yes uh... and uh... so we can relate this to for example let's say a particular person has a tendency to lie uh... for whatever reason trauma as a child brought up in the home where it was just what was done and it's part of this this uh... this young boy growing up he just always lies and becomes a christian and he still lies and he knows it's wrong and he's oh my goodness i can't do that but i keep doing it i'm not supposed to that's different he has a tendency that is ungodly and he's warring against it i would say such a person is showing evidence of salvation if a person of male is attracted to another mail that way and knows it's sinful and is warring against it that's evidence of salvation awesome that makes perfect sense to me that makes perfect sense uh... that's that's my uh... that's my answer and i'd just like to say uh... break your brother busman i'm going to witness to a bunch of uh... uh... lgbt q i plus folks tomorrow hopefully to win something to christ i've been i believe challenged by god if not motivated and compelled by god matt to go to a very large pride event very close to where i live and minister the gospel i'm leaving the ninety nine you know my church people and and going after the one or many uh... so i do pray that hearts would be opened uh... and and that uh... the message of the gospel will be greatly received so that the deception that i believe is upon these men and women will be broken in the name of jesus christ because you know whom the sun sets free is free indeed a man so pray for your brother busman here in ohio uh... i'll be taking that on tomorrow at eleven a m until whenever god sends me to go home let us know how it goes i just want to say that i was a good thing and you'll need protection i'd recommend that you have cameras and recordings and things like that yet got that going on yeah and i remember you talk about that earlier that that was great that was great but yeah i was very close so i just want to say thanks to uh... it is it is and uh... i uh... i just really i'd really do not i want as many people in whatever the sin bondage is whether the lgbt q i plus or whatever that they'd be released because i know in my own life i've been released and this is an amazing life to walk in that's like life listeners it's an amazing life to walk with christ in freedom it's hard because the world still hates you and wants me you know put in a prison cell uh... and some of them even want me dead but it is really the way to walk as a human being uh... when we know who our god is so thanks matt and i really appreciate you all of your uh... your information on karm dot org i will impress on on people and say hey if you've got a question check out karm dot o r g because it he's been doing this for quite a long time and he's quite the scholar and i just want to thank you once again map from the bottom of my heart i appreciate it brother okay well appreciate that i wouldn't call myself a scholar but hey it's nice so check it out and uh... everybody check out this idea okay god bless buster thanks matt yeah i'm sure people on our prayer team will be uh... will be praying for him during that and ours is in september here in Boise Idaho area and each year i go out and i join people who are sitting outside the perimeter and uh... preaching the gospel and what's really interesting is that when we do that that there's a lot of people who who are pro homosexual who come out and they try and kind of surround us i don't like that and they're loud they yell they scream uh... they ask questions and we start to answer them they ignore they're rude it's it's interesting and what they want from us is acceptance and yet they won't tolerate us the hypocrisy is simply there all right hey look if you want to give me a call okay oh good okay all right okay good uh... like i said my brother uh... everything's okay if you want to give me a call all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276 give me a call it's easy to do and uh... uh... we'll talk all right we have nobody waiting right now so let's get back to some of the questions and the emails that people have sent in and the like let's see radio comments and questions let's get to this one what is your view on michael heiser's teaching the divine council i've already gone through that several times i did that uh... few days ago on that very question when are you going to debate chris fisher again who's chris fisher i'll look during the break and see who that is i've debated so many people i don't remember all their names if you want to give me a call 877-207-2276 we'll be right back please stay tuned it's matt slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276 here's matt slick welcome back to the show if you want to give me a call 877-207-2276 it's a nice friday i watched the presidential debate last night the dems are doing uh... damage control and uh... they're just imploding so it didn't go really well last night okay let's get back to the radio questions uh... when are you going to debate chris fisher again probably never i i keep files on everybody i debate now and uh... so this debate happened on march first of this year and he's an open theist open theism teaches that the future is open that god does not know exhaustively what people will do doesn't know exhaustively their actions doesn't know them perfectly because if he did you wouldn't have free will it's faulty thinking but it's where they park their car and uh... let's just say they parked a car in a handicapped spot with no placard no logic placard uh... so it's a problem and i have my notes uh... the first thing he did was attack my calvinism and uh... and then he showed me that he didn't understand what it was it's very often the case people who would just attack it they don't often don't understand it uh... and sometimes they do i've met a few who understand it and can talk coherently about it and they disagree for varying reasons and i answer those objections we have good discussions but generally speaking uh... a lot of people just don't understand that they attack a caricature and for once i was having a not official debate but uh... you know open discussion slash debate kind of back and forth with somebody and he said uh... something about uh... you know your calvinism just teaches that god pre-determines everything and no free will and that's wrong i said you're you're right it is wrong he goes what well yeah it's wrong that's a wrong position that's right but that's your position i said no it's not it's not my position it's not calvinism's position either he didn't know what to do it was funny at any rate um... so uh... he was condescending he tried to poison the well yet he accused me of doing it he accused me of being a platonist he said i lied when speaking with duffy uh... he asked a listener to be careful about what i said what so yeah those are the things that uh... it was bad and uh... i think i remember saying never debate that guy again not because i can't beat him or answer him it's just because his incompetence was was profound it's just like are you kidding me go away one of those so anyway hey look there we go let's get to jennifer jennifer welcome you're on the air thank you i want you to comment on christian nationalism except your people talk about it in different terms so if you could kind of comment on that and tell me if that's like a organization is that part of the christian movement it's just a movement within certain christian areas but i don't know which ones and basically the idea is that people want uh... christianity play a central role in the uh... the work of our nation in politics and society and things like that and that needs to be more christian that there needs to be a national identification with christianity which i think is a good idea now how that would be done i don't know because we need a national identity we need to follow god the true and living god and the constitutional fathers wrote that here we have given you a constitution or we have given you a nation take care of it and then others wrote back in that day said this won't work unless the nation is christian and it's true because unbelievers and the ungodly principles can get in and manipulate things and we can see that like last night's debate you know the dems i call it the democratic party to be a terrorist organization so we can see that but anyway the idea of of religious identity and nationalism and uh... a lot of stuff based on scriptural uh... warrant and things like that now how far that goes that's the question a christian identity like uh... it's like that uh... but that's what i understand uh... christian identity is a little bit more strict i think what christian nationalism teaches i should study it more is the idea that there just needs to be more christian influence everywhere and okay and that's fine in government and how we do things okay could you imagine if real christians were really in government not taking bribes not uh... uh... manipulating the doj or the fbi to go after political opponents just because can you imagine can you imagine when they say they say yeah you have the right to protect yourself and the right to bear arms as jesus you know said in the twenty two thirty six by a sword and and can you imagine you know the abortion would stop oh yeah killing of the babies that would be wonderful yeah cause i just hear a lot of people talk about it and some positives some negatives yet and so i was just wondering uh... or is that going to have movement it like christian identity in it but i don't understand the concept of it you know i can hear a lot more with what it was well here's the thing about any movement is uh... eventually it'll just become corrupted and the reason is because if you want to mess something up you just need people and time and so true christians who really do fear the lord and who would hold their offices in government as a ministry and servants to god who know they're going to answer directly to him on the day of judgment would be different than atheists or democrat leftist wacko socialist morons who uh... just want to tax the crud out of everybody remove our rights uh... you know give our sovereignty away things like this open the borders up and be invaded so in the surface things are good but what do you do after two three four five six generations of people who are in control how do you know that they're christians really how do you know that they are christian nationalists this is everything has a problem everything has potential of being destroyed and corrupted and it's just how it's always been and then there's the issue of the church the separation of church and state which a lot of people think it's constitutional but it's not the church separation of church and state no it's not nope that's it go look it up it was originated in a letter i think by franklin but i'm not sure it's been a while since i've studied it and the idea was the separation of church and state was that the state was not to impose a religious system because that's the way it was in england the uh... the the religion of the church of england was the national religion you had to belong to and so they said no we want separation between that and if you read and i don't know if you've read it but you should read the constitution of the preamble and you'll see i do have a copy of it you should read it you really should read the preamble and you'll see about issues of god in there and you'll also see stuff about the sabbath on sunday and not coming in to work and stuff oh yeah you'd be surprised but the the libos don't want you to study this stuff they want you to be indoctrinated by listening to cnn msnbc and a little bit of fox too so the idea of church and state i remember once on the national day of prayer here in boise i was one of the speaker pray guys and afterwards a bunch of atheists were down there and they were polite you know they were protesting that that's alright i went down and talked to a woman and she said separation of church and state and i said you don't want the church to tell the state what to do do you that's right separation of church and state and i said it's okay for the state to tell the church what to do and she just stopped and stared at me you could see the light bulb went on and she had never thought of it that way i said because that's what's happening now the state is telling the church what it can and can't do in the pulpit where's the separation of church and state there and she did what to say she'd never thought of it because they don't think very deeply wow yeah because i hear people saying that too they're like if you say hey you know we need to implement this they'll say you know we have to separate this they keep saying that you know it should be separate who says so? church and state why do they should do we want uh... you know if you had a hundred people in congress who are leftist socialists who don't believe that they're accountable to god or you have a hundred people who are accountable to god and believe in following truth and not lying and not taking bribes things like that which do you think is going to be better it's it's simple every socialist system becomes oppressive look at venezuela i have a timeline on my website about it it's ridiculous yeah and christians say what about homosexuality well what about it people can be homosexual if they want to be homosexual just don't impose it to everybody else because they're forcing it down the throats of our children on movies and tvs and tv series it's all over it's pathetic it's okay for them to push on us morals but we can't do it in reverse all right we got to go there's a break all right thank you so much you're welcome so much god bless all right hey folks if you want to give me a call 877-207-2276 show last quarter of the hour if you want to give me a call well we've got to wait we've got a full set let's get a day from california welcome you're on the air hello matt it's dave hey man where were you in the meeting this morning uh... i was uh... too busy doing other things i haven't been feeling too good and i just happened to miss it that's all right no big deal so what's up big guy by the way ladies and gentlemen dave here i've known dave for how long is that forty four years yeah forty four we should be roommates and everything dave's a good guy so what's up big guy i'm not i'm not sure i would want to admit to that in the public forum that you know me that long yeah and listen i uh... the last uh... the last caller provides a perfect segue uh... to the topic i wanted to bring up and that's the uh... the idea of uh... christian nationalism and so forth and and how christians should uh... should respond to their government uh... but before i address that specifically the uh... the letter that you're referring to the uh... letter to the danbury baptist i was actually written by thomas jefferson jefferson in in eighteen oh two the purpose of it uh... even though the words uh... uh... building a wall of separation between church and state within their it was only the purpose of it was only meant to remind everybody we don't want the government imposing a particular denomination or religion on the people and that's the purpose of the wall that you can imagine the government walking uh... or of passing a uh... a law tomorrow that says hey from now on uh... everybody is going to be is going to their theology is going to uh... of the nation is going to be one this pentecostal or that it's going to be in this context of baptist or any other denomination or any other religion so the wall of separation was to keep the government from telling everybody this is the denomination or religion that you are going to believe thomas jefferson segway bat with the uh... quoting of the first amendment uh... which says that the congress shall make no law respecting establishment of religion but any contrasted that with prohibiting the free exercise thereof so he made it clear that the uh... persons religion lies solely between them and their god and that government is not to impose any particular belief on people and that's the wall that jefferson was referring to was to keep the government out of a personal beliefs not too uh... disallow or to prohibit the exercise of people whether they were in government or out of it amber yeah now along with that uh... the uh... the state the great state of tennessee the legislature in the governor have just passed a resolution calling for thirty one days of prayer to start on july first and uh... believe it or not there ricky uh... pretty orthodox uh... they said that they recognize god as the creator king of all glory he had the authority to judge and bless the nation's and that we are to seek god's mercy upon our land and not to have him withdraw his hand from us recognizing our sins and shortcomings as we humbly ask forgiveness and then he goes to listen various things that are predominant in the uh... landscape right now violence human trafficking addiction corruption and and ask that the holy spirit fills our halls of government now we had uh... very large church in southern california pick up on this and he announced his congregation he was going to ask them to play in fast as possible uh... during the whole month of july and so i thought it would be uh... it would be apropos if uh... we did the same thing and put out to all the listeners that uh... this would be a good time for us to get on our knees and ask god to to you know forgiveness our sins and bring us back to a nation that was founded on christian principles we have a lot of political things coming up as everybody knows in the next uh... six seven months so it's it's going to be uh... quite a quite a time of testing and trials for our nation and us as people good stuff that's it brother yeah i agree and uh... i'm glad that uh... you called in and offered that clarification really good so yeah i appreciate it man good stuff all right and people people should know because we're not caught in our history books what an influence the bible in christianity's had on our nation going back to the beginning and although uh... you know many of the founders yet might not be what we would call evangelical christians uh... there is there's no doubt that they did the influence of the bible went a long ways towards us giving you'd mention the con the uh... declaration of the constitution towards giving us what we call our natural rights and that's their natural rights enshrined in the in the amendments to the constitution uh... delete the first ten were essentially based on things that the government is not supposed to do they have no authority to grant to us the authority to do those things we get them as a result of being creations of god and that's why they excluded the government from imposing uh... you know restrictions on reasonable restrictions on our on our amendments and and that was the basis for it was a christian world view not at a hindu world view not an islamic world view a christian world view and uh... that's what makes america such a such a great place because we've inherited that and tell them what you are retired from it if you don't mind well i would i used to work for the federal government i was a uh... a u.s. board patrol agent for twenty six years and um... now retired from that and uh... matt found out i had a little bit too much free time on my hand and so uh... he uh... that's your fault kicking and screaming into uh... helping out with some activities in farm and it's it's truly a blessing well it's your fault for retiring okay so it's like hey dave what are you doing so uh... but you do a good job here with uh... at karm too so really appreciate it and thanks for the clarification again i really do that's that's good stuff man it's a letter to uh... thank you brother god god bless your listeners and uh... and you and our and our nation good stuff good stuff i've known dave a long time is a good guy all right let's get to daniel from phoenix arizona welcome your on the air and that's going on you know it's going to oh yeah i hear you well i can hear you know what's up with the energy or argue at apology at church last week and he had yet seen that in salt lake city yes how'd you how do you hear that all of the lake all salt lake city okay you know that you're in phoenix all solid city okay you're the one in uh... all excited okay yet uh... you know i'm going to be a couple of you story uh... about what you got there talking about part of the getting involved in legislation uh... that's cut that's kind of what we're doing right now in arizona with uh... apology at church uh... suggest urban and i'm involved i'm involved in helping him in there is a uh... paladin for abortion to amend the state constitution in arizona and so what they're doing is people are going around getting signatures and they're trying to amend our state constitution to make abortion legal up until birth is what this constitutional amendment will do uh... up to birth and burt and their own going around and they're telling people uh... the petitioners they're telling people it's only up to twenty four weeks only up to viability there's not a bill and there's a line yeah exactly and so we want the church which is a sleep in arizona there's i mean they're asleep we want we're trying to get them too to join us and our effort that we have that i'm not gonna mention but we have efforts we're trying to get the church involved but kind of like what you're saying in the last caller was saying in the caller before that this is why the church needs to be involved in legislation and not the leftist or the unbelieving world view dictate what the believers do and so uh... what do you think about well then say what do you think about the church there in activity and it's a good thing regarding to like what i just mentioned like constitution being amended and how how uh... tragic that is going to be and twenty thirty years now if they did if they keep doing that and what that could have how that could affect our generation by the church not stepping up what are your thoughts? yeah the church needs to step up and uh... it's just they need to step up the church needs to get off its rear and uh... start getting out in the streets and start behaving like christians instead of just hiding on a sunday morning yeah that's what i say yeah i have been talking to christians at work and stuff like that i'm trying to get them on board i asked them this question i say tell the other members of your church who have a problem with politics or theonomy ask them this question do you want our legislators to glorify god and writing laws into legislation or do you not because if they answer yes to that question then you tell them okay then what are you doing about this and that's the mindset we we don't have when we're thinking about these issues like you said earlier it just hit that person when you told them that when it comes to legislation do we want god to be glorified in the laws that they write or do we want the evil one to be glorified that's why christians they need to be taught the principles that are so prevalent in scripture about our involvement in all things of the world and it needs to be taught but i think that if that were to happen that pastors would lose congregation members because people are are acclimated to a week christianity a week theology a week understanding of of things and uh... that's probably what would happen but it needs to change and it usually changes with persecution it usually changes with persecution yeah and i i i've called i've called probably over a hundred churches just in this last week because of that we have coming up isn't regarding the issues in politics and just cricket no not one that they're going to be attending is critical under the email under phone calls it's and we had to do better but i don't want to hear about trying to let everybody else with me here as well it's called church unity yep you're right we've got about thirty seconds or so left the show so say hi to the guys down there for me at uh... apologia and uh... good work you know it's good stuff i'll let jeff know you said hi yeah and uh... yeah i've talked to jeff i haven't talked to him for about a year but uh... you know we did a conference together up in canada and they had to meet him there and and uh... spent some time together as a good guy i've met james white too and uh... they're a great guy but you know just say tell them hey match look you called in and said just say hi and keep up the good work down there they need uh... we need more people like them absolutely uh... oh yeah absolutely thank you and god bless alright man god bless alright there we go there's the music we are out of here may the lord bless you and by his grace back on the air on monday hope you have a great weekend and just uh... fyi will not be live on thursday friday because it's the fourth of july weekend and uh... there you go so hope you'll have a great evening and by his grace we'll talk to you next week god bless everybody bye another program powered by the truth network

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